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Wednesday, 26.11.2014.

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"EU can't be bogeyman for Orthodox nations"

Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vučić said on Wednesday that the EU "is not and cannot be a bogeyman for Orthodox nations."

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icj1

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 21:53)

Ok, good. Then it should be easy enough for you to provide evidence that out of X laws in the UK, Y are made in the EU. Waiting very impatiantly for you to show that evidence, especially since there is plenty.

However, even after you provide evidence that the "UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU", that does not prove "loss of sovereignty". At best, it proves partial loss of sovereighty. You'd need to prove that the UK has 100% of its laws made in the EU to prove your point of "loss of sovereignty".

Finally, even after you provide all that evidence, you still did not explain what's scandalous about it and what's the problem. The City of London is not sovereign... and then what?!!!! Following your logic, countries, cities and every form of political organization should be dismembered and every person should be sovereign - i.e. the law of the jungle like animals :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija, 27 November 2014 20:21)

Obviously as a British born Serb you are totally clueless of British sentiment on the EU

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/06/17/eu-referendum-record-lead/

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3463/Support-for-EU-membership-highest-for-23-years-even-as-UKIP-rises-in-the-polls.aspx

It's astonishing how some people here just make statements without checking or researching anything (except perhaps serbianna.com)

sj

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.
(Romania, 28 November 2014 09:00)
When were you last in Romania to see the joys of being in the EU? Poverty in Romania is more evident than in Serbia. Open your eyes or are you one of those people who lives somewhere in the west earns very low wages but the exchange rate is good and you brag about your wealth when in fact you have nothing.
A colleague who is Polish said that joining the EU was bad enough but taking on the Euro was even worse. She was away for 12 years and recently went back. Very little had changed and it was “prices in Euros, but polish wages.

Romania

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.

@observer I am not anti-European. I could never be that because that means being anti Serbian. Believe it or not, Europe existed before the EU, and I sure as hell am anti EU. Millions of people all over Europe for various reasons are turning to EUroskepticism and that doesn't make them anti-European. Funny you calling me a Nazi all the while defending the EU which is a project that has allowed Germany to do what it failed to do militarily and that's conquer Europe. Hitler is beaming with pride from his grave over the EU and I'm sure he loves Germany's policy in the Balkans which is to empower the former Nazi satellite states at the expense of the only nation that fought to stop them in the region-Serbia.

Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija

pre 9 godina

b92 - is the comment by Observer within rules? It adds nothing to any form of a comment or discussion and is a pathetic attempt at ridiculing another commentator. Really is this worthy of publishing?

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.

icj1

pre 9 godina

And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

That is your "evidence"?! The bragging of a Commissioner lol

Anyway, even that "evidence" you provided shows that you are wrong and your statement that the UK "has lost its sovereignty to the EU" is incorrect. At best, your "evidence" shows that the UK has partially lost its sovereignty to the EU. And even with that, I don't see what's so scandalous. The City of London has also partially lost its sovereignty to the UK and then what? Should the City of London get out of the UK because of that?!

I'm really not sure what's the point that you are trying to make, mate!

observer

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

Hardly anybody takes this raging nationalist serious anymore when he repeats his ant-european charades on a daily basis over and over again like a broken old record. he is brainwashed, obsessed by hate against anybody who even tries to criticize Serbia, and would have been, as many people have stated here before, the perfect Nazi had he lived 70 years ago. Ari should have his head examined, and B92 should stop giving him a platform from where he can spread his lies and hate.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?
(icj1, 27 November 2014 00:59)

The United Kingdom is the world's 8th largest economy. It provides more to the EU than it takes out and without it, the EU will suffer yet another huge blow to their United States of Europe dream. And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU http://sluggerotoole.com/2014/05/21/unelected-eu-commisioner-says-75-of-our-laws-are-made-in-brussels/

And the UK cannot even have say over its own borders or how many people come into the country. http://www.dw.de/merkel-warns-cameron-uk-is-reaching-point-of-no-return/a-18035090

And that's the UK we are talking about. No country in the Balkans will have any say over how their own country is being managed, because all directives will come from the central planners in Brussels and the countries HAVE to carry them out. What the peoples opinion of these directives are is completely irrelevant as long as you are a member of the EU.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2014 20:20)

Thanks mate for reminding us about how ignorant you are regarding what joininig the EU means. It's almost impossible to find even a single factually correct statement in your post. Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?

P.S. "Evidence" does not mean "opinions"

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The EU is the bogeyman for European national-state democracy. Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.

I would be anti-EU if I was Protestant, Catholic etc. That's before taking into account that this organization is very hostile to Christian Orthodoxy and Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The EU is the bogeyman for European national-state democracy. Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.

I would be anti-EU if I was Protestant, Catholic etc. That's before taking into account that this organization is very hostile to Christian Orthodoxy and Serbia.

observer

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

Hardly anybody takes this raging nationalist serious anymore when he repeats his ant-european charades on a daily basis over and over again like a broken old record. he is brainwashed, obsessed by hate against anybody who even tries to criticize Serbia, and would have been, as many people have stated here before, the perfect Nazi had he lived 70 years ago. Ari should have his head examined, and B92 should stop giving him a platform from where he can spread his lies and hate.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2014 20:20)

Thanks mate for reminding us about how ignorant you are regarding what joininig the EU means. It's almost impossible to find even a single factually correct statement in your post. Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?

P.S. "Evidence" does not mean "opinions"

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?
(icj1, 27 November 2014 00:59)

The United Kingdom is the world's 8th largest economy. It provides more to the EU than it takes out and without it, the EU will suffer yet another huge blow to their United States of Europe dream. And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU http://sluggerotoole.com/2014/05/21/unelected-eu-commisioner-says-75-of-our-laws-are-made-in-brussels/

And the UK cannot even have say over its own borders or how many people come into the country. http://www.dw.de/merkel-warns-cameron-uk-is-reaching-point-of-no-return/a-18035090

And that's the UK we are talking about. No country in the Balkans will have any say over how their own country is being managed, because all directives will come from the central planners in Brussels and the countries HAVE to carry them out. What the peoples opinion of these directives are is completely irrelevant as long as you are a member of the EU.

icj1

pre 9 godina

And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

That is your "evidence"?! The bragging of a Commissioner lol

Anyway, even that "evidence" you provided shows that you are wrong and your statement that the UK "has lost its sovereignty to the EU" is incorrect. At best, your "evidence" shows that the UK has partially lost its sovereignty to the EU. And even with that, I don't see what's so scandalous. The City of London has also partially lost its sovereignty to the UK and then what? Should the City of London get out of the UK because of that?!

I'm really not sure what's the point that you are trying to make, mate!

Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija

pre 9 godina

b92 - is the comment by Observer within rules? It adds nothing to any form of a comment or discussion and is a pathetic attempt at ridiculing another commentator. Really is this worthy of publishing?

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.

@observer I am not anti-European. I could never be that because that means being anti Serbian. Believe it or not, Europe existed before the EU, and I sure as hell am anti EU. Millions of people all over Europe for various reasons are turning to EUroskepticism and that doesn't make them anti-European. Funny you calling me a Nazi all the while defending the EU which is a project that has allowed Germany to do what it failed to do militarily and that's conquer Europe. Hitler is beaming with pride from his grave over the EU and I'm sure he loves Germany's policy in the Balkans which is to empower the former Nazi satellite states at the expense of the only nation that fought to stop them in the region-Serbia.

Romania

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.

sj

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.
(Romania, 28 November 2014 09:00)
When were you last in Romania to see the joys of being in the EU? Poverty in Romania is more evident than in Serbia. Open your eyes or are you one of those people who lives somewhere in the west earns very low wages but the exchange rate is good and you brag about your wealth when in fact you have nothing.
A colleague who is Polish said that joining the EU was bad enough but taking on the Euro was even worse. She was away for 12 years and recently went back. Very little had changed and it was “prices in Euros, but polish wages.

icj1

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 21:53)

Ok, good. Then it should be easy enough for you to provide evidence that out of X laws in the UK, Y are made in the EU. Waiting very impatiantly for you to show that evidence, especially since there is plenty.

However, even after you provide evidence that the "UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU", that does not prove "loss of sovereignty". At best, it proves partial loss of sovereighty. You'd need to prove that the UK has 100% of its laws made in the EU to prove your point of "loss of sovereignty".

Finally, even after you provide all that evidence, you still did not explain what's scandalous about it and what's the problem. The City of London is not sovereign... and then what?!!!! Following your logic, countries, cities and every form of political organization should be dismembered and every person should be sovereign - i.e. the law of the jungle like animals :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija, 27 November 2014 20:21)

Obviously as a British born Serb you are totally clueless of British sentiment on the EU

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/06/17/eu-referendum-record-lead/

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3463/Support-for-EU-membership-highest-for-23-years-even-as-UKIP-rises-in-the-polls.aspx

It's astonishing how some people here just make statements without checking or researching anything (except perhaps serbianna.com)

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

The EU is the bogeyman for European national-state democracy. Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.

I would be anti-EU if I was Protestant, Catholic etc. That's before taking into account that this organization is very hostile to Christian Orthodoxy and Serbia.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Joining the EU automatically means surrendering your country's sovereignty fully and completely to an unelected centrally-planned commission. The highest law in your country will no longer be the constitutional court, but rather the EU courts in Strasbourg. The economy will not have independent functions, but rather have directives that must be carried out from Brussels at a moments notice.
(Ari Gold, 26 November 2014 20:20)

Thanks mate for reminding us about how ignorant you are regarding what joininig the EU means. It's almost impossible to find even a single factually correct statement in your post. Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?

P.S. "Evidence" does not mean "opinions"

observer

pre 9 godina

(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

Hardly anybody takes this raging nationalist serious anymore when he repeats his ant-european charades on a daily basis over and over again like a broken old record. he is brainwashed, obsessed by hate against anybody who even tries to criticize Serbia, and would have been, as many people have stated here before, the perfect Nazi had he lived 70 years ago. Ari should have his head examined, and B92 should stop giving him a platform from where he can spread his lies and hate.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Are you able to provide any documents or evidence to support your hallucinations above ?
(icj1, 27 November 2014 00:59)

The United Kingdom is the world's 8th largest economy. It provides more to the EU than it takes out and without it, the EU will suffer yet another huge blow to their United States of Europe dream. And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU http://sluggerotoole.com/2014/05/21/unelected-eu-commisioner-says-75-of-our-laws-are-made-in-brussels/

And the UK cannot even have say over its own borders or how many people come into the country. http://www.dw.de/merkel-warns-cameron-uk-is-reaching-point-of-no-return/a-18035090

And that's the UK we are talking about. No country in the Balkans will have any say over how their own country is being managed, because all directives will come from the central planners in Brussels and the countries HAVE to carry them out. What the peoples opinion of these directives are is completely irrelevant as long as you are a member of the EU.

sj

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.
(Romania, 28 November 2014 09:00)
When were you last in Romania to see the joys of being in the EU? Poverty in Romania is more evident than in Serbia. Open your eyes or are you one of those people who lives somewhere in the west earns very low wages but the exchange rate is good and you brag about your wealth when in fact you have nothing.
A colleague who is Polish said that joining the EU was bad enough but taking on the Euro was even worse. She was away for 12 years and recently went back. Very little had changed and it was “prices in Euros, but polish wages.

icj1

pre 9 godina

And even this country has lost its sovereignty to the EU. An unelected EU commissioner has even bragged that at least 75% of the laws in the UK come directly from the EU
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 11:13)

That is your "evidence"?! The bragging of a Commissioner lol

Anyway, even that "evidence" you provided shows that you are wrong and your statement that the UK "has lost its sovereignty to the EU" is incorrect. At best, your "evidence" shows that the UK has partially lost its sovereignty to the EU. And even with that, I don't see what's so scandalous. The City of London has also partially lost its sovereignty to the UK and then what? Should the City of London get out of the UK because of that?!

I'm really not sure what's the point that you are trying to make, mate!

Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija

pre 9 godina

b92 - is the comment by Observer within rules? It adds nothing to any form of a comment or discussion and is a pathetic attempt at ridiculing another commentator. Really is this worthy of publishing?

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.

@observer I am not anti-European. I could never be that because that means being anti Serbian. Believe it or not, Europe existed before the EU, and I sure as hell am anti EU. Millions of people all over Europe for various reasons are turning to EUroskepticism and that doesn't make them anti-European. Funny you calling me a Nazi all the while defending the EU which is a project that has allowed Germany to do what it failed to do militarily and that's conquer Europe. Hitler is beaming with pride from his grave over the EU and I'm sure he loves Germany's policy in the Balkans which is to empower the former Nazi satellite states at the expense of the only nation that fought to stop them in the region-Serbia.

Romania

pre 9 godina

Did you surrender entire Serbia to Putin? Russia will bring you only mafia and poverty, you know that. What is wrong with Serbia, that prefers to go back in totalitarianism age.Please, don't imply God in this Russian dirty war, not all orthodox people are brainwashed by putin propaganda.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj - the UK is getting very close to the point of exiting the EU precisely because the UK population are sick and tired of EU laws and regulations which they consider are imposed upon them by EU bureaucrats who have userped UK sovereignty - as a British born Serb I am fully aware of British sentiment on the EU.
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM,Srbija, 27 November 2014 20:21)

Obviously as a British born Serb you are totally clueless of British sentiment on the EU

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/06/17/eu-referendum-record-lead/

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3463/Support-for-EU-membership-highest-for-23-years-even-as-UKIP-rises-in-the-polls.aspx

It's astonishing how some people here just make statements without checking or researching anything (except perhaps serbianna.com)

icj1

pre 9 godina

@icj there is plenty of evidence that exists which says the UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU. This goes for every member state. The EU commissioner bragging about this just shows how open and proud they are of this loss of sovereignty.
(Ari Gold, 27 November 2014 21:53)

Ok, good. Then it should be easy enough for you to provide evidence that out of X laws in the UK, Y are made in the EU. Waiting very impatiantly for you to show that evidence, especially since there is plenty.

However, even after you provide evidence that the "UK has 75% of its laws made in the EU", that does not prove "loss of sovereignty". At best, it proves partial loss of sovereighty. You'd need to prove that the UK has 100% of its laws made in the EU to prove your point of "loss of sovereignty".

Finally, even after you provide all that evidence, you still did not explain what's scandalous about it and what's the problem. The City of London is not sovereign... and then what?!!!! Following your logic, countries, cities and every form of political organization should be dismembered and every person should be sovereign - i.e. the law of the jungle like animals :)