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Tuesday, 02.09.2014.

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FM: Serbia won't sign "peace deal with Kosovo"

Serbia will not sign "an international peace agreement with Kosovo," Foreign Minister Ivica Dačić has told the Belgrade-based daily Danas.

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Sigmund M.D.

pre 9 godina

sj

Ian,UK is just a young chap. Boasts of an undergraduate degree in history and, apparently, is currently studying psychiatric nursing. He needs to do some introspective analysis before judging or analyzing you or anyone else. Too immature and egocentric to engage in meaningful dialogue.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 13:55)

Actually my neighbour’s parents are here right now and out of interest I asked his father if they had to obtain a visa – his father is a retired doctor and his mother a former school teacher. His reply was no since they reside in one of the economic zones and in fact since this person has retired and receives a pension he can stay in Australia for as long as he wants subject to certain conditions such as paying for his medicare contributions to the Australian government.

I have never boasted or lied about anything involving my background unlike most of your lot who refuse to say what they do with the exception of you. My mother is Australian and some her family do go back to the first fleet (some were in chains when they arrived here). I have siblings and if you think I’m a nationalist you should talk to my sister and she works in the foreign affairs department.

I did work for the Chinese and even gave out details of the bank and ownership structure and yes the bank is owned by the Chinese government. I am now retired in Sydney, and Mosman is the suburb. I’m not sure how it occurs in the UK but where I worked I have made close friendships. Perhaps you don’t.

Australia’s debt is 25% of GDP not 130% mate so it not even close to the US and when I say the west I certainly don’t exclude Australia nor the current knucklehead who they call a Prime Minister.

a New Day

pre 9 godina

Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 September 2014 17:19)
You confuse Christianity with Serbian Orthodoxy. Serbian Orthodoxy is a single (small percentage) segment of the Christian religion. Now it might play some role in the Serbian Orthodox religion(but as the heart, why is the head of the sect not in Kosovo?
But regardless of the answer any importance Kosovo plays in the Serbian Orthodox religion, it has NO significance to the Christian Religion as a whole, and is not recognized as a Holy site outside of the Serbian Orthodox sect.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

What peace deal ??? God will render the final judgement for all mankind. Tragic world events are escalating rapidly now. From the point of no return for all Christians back in 1999, now every thing is sliding down hill rapidly out of control. Yes God does exist. The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God, special gifted people who gave mankind beautiful inovations in medical and technological advancements. Then there are the evil people who want to turn every thing backwards into the primitive stages by killing, torturing and destroying. Soon the Christian world will awaken to the ultimate terror that will be unleashed upon them and remarkably ALL Christians of all denominations will unite for their survival. Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God..."

The trouble with believing this, is that you can't subscribe to it, without also subscribing to its inverse; i.e. God also gave people famine, gave them diseases, disabilities etc. the two are linked. you can't on the one hand thank God for beautiful things and ignore the obvious suffering a lot of others go through. as for this "Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity...", I have read the Bible and Kosovo does not figure once in it.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"... I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode"

really? out of curiosity, how did you figure that the dinar amount came to 20 Euros's?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 11:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celtic bedpan washer who tries and sell himself off as a superior administrator in the Uk health system. Lad, the only thing you’re capable of studying is a racing form guide.
Not it was not the CIA, but locals and the reason I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode. I have been posting on B92 since just before the GFC and if that is all you can find at fault then I’m happy.
Here is another outrageous claim, the Uk government is now 92% of GDP in debt and for the rest you should read what the US Nobel Prize winning economists, Joe Stiglitz, said about his country and its future while he was lecturing in Sydney recently.
Note how the US plus EU are unable to stop Russia. Doesn’t that tell you something? Don’t alarm bells ring in your little head that something is wrong considering TV tells you all is well????

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

(sj, 3 September 2014 13:06)

You pass yourself off as a flash Aussie-Serb (I mustn't forget that you descend back to the first settlers) who works in a Chinese bank in Malaysia and that it is your job "to know things". You told me that in your spare time, you talk to your Chinese friend's parents about visa requirements for Australia as they're an authority on the subject.

You do realise that Australia's per-capita debt is larger than the US's per-capita debt, but I never see you telling us that "the end is nigh" for Australia.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace."

If there is a God, which I highly doubt, I see no reason why he/she/it should send you anything. for this particular reason, I reckon God likes us atheists more, we don't ask him/her/it for anything

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.
(sj, 3 September 2014 00:51)

sj, I hate to break it to you, but the US & Guantanamo Bay are not in Europe/ EU.

I'd love to study you sj, the way your mind works is fascinating. I love the way you make-up outrageous claims out of the blue. My favourite delusion of yours is that you were offered Euros by the CIA in the early 1990s. Marvellous!

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

The only sane words spoken above are: HAHAHA…HAHA !

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

Ok, and it was Roman before then for 1000 years. I guess then Rome is Kosovo and Kosovo is Rome. So, what's your point, dear, or your just trying to exchange academic research?

sj

pre 9 godina

“… It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)
I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 2 September 2014 17:31)
If it will make you happy I made it all up, but why waist logic on idiots like you and you backward Albanians. Your brain has been sozzled with US propaganda that you only understand repetition before it starts to sink in to your tiny brain.
You are that mentally challenged that you actually believe that these sanctions are hurting Russia. You’re not even aware that some EU members have no sanctions on Russia and will veto anything further. You cant think for yourself but believe everything TV tells you. Your that bereft of grey cells that you believe EU/US sanctions on banking etc are having an effect on Moscow when Moscow can operate through Asia – you have heard of Asia or maybe you think that anything past San Francisco Bay is the edge of the world. Then there is the Indian subcontinent, Africa South America and so it goes on. Its all BS for your benefit.
The pipeline to China will be finished by late 2016 or early 2017.
Russia does not have to turn off the gas. All it has to do stop importing from the EU which it has started. Ask the EU farmers what they are going to do with all the fruit/vegetables they cant sell to Russia. The next step is ban all manufacturing from Brussels and then you ask the Germans how they are going.
When the US of Piss and Wind is ready go for it mate. Stand in Russia’s way.

sj

pre 9 godina

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

Another Albo with no brains. Pardon, an Albanian Celt. Then why are they so concerned? What for democracy or freedom? You think all that flies is edible. Stick to cleaning bedpans mate and I heard on the grapevine that more cuts are on the way to the British public civil service as the UK’s debt has risen again.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.
(Avni, 2 September 2014 15:55)

Ivica Dacic can't sign peace deals with Kosovo* until Kosovo has apologized for war crimes, admitted to organ harvesting, arrested all KLA war criminals, located all missing Serb civilians, allowed for all displaced Serbs to return to their homes, rebuild all destroyed churches, monuments, and homes, and pay for all damages since 1999. What Hachim Thaci says today means nothing tomorrow because tomorrow he'll say something else. I've seen this movie too.

roberto

pre 9 godina

The belgrade regime is just so bizarre. A peace agreement?! No way. But we - Serbia - are the main thrust of peace in the region. All of their utterances, put together, are like some kind of surreal painting that hurts the eyes just looking...

At any rate, as others here have mentioned, no peace agreement until all the thousands of bodies are turned up, either hacked up and decomposing in mass graves or river beds, or the files detailing the industrialized burning of bodies in various furnaces in N Kosova and throughout Serbia. That's the burning elephant in the room, dear B92...

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points.
(Reader, 2 September 2014 16:03)

Not to worry. Lots of people other than Dacic comment on the weird boasts and proclamations of officials in Pristina. Thaci isn't even the worst of them.

Dragolub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo. in 1999 USA, Germany and England lit the fuse to WW3 by supporting, arming and financing terrorist Muslum gangs who were coming in from the whole world to kill and terrorize innocent Christians living peacefully in their ancient home land. NATO savagely and with out mercy bombed Serbia and it's innocent Christian civilians for 78 punishing consecutive days causing massive colateral and structual damage. This support for Islam was a positive turning point, but unfortunately a point of no return for ALL Christians in the world. First response and thanks from Islam was to the USA on September 11, 2001, the Muslum terrorists display to the world what they do the best, kill innocent people. The support from the super powers for the terrorist Muslum gangs will back fire, as the tragic events of September 11, 2001 show, when you support evil, it will grow to a monster and come back later to deal with you. We are living in a new era, biological and nuclear devistation will destroy all humanity on this earth. Islam WILL unleash terror on mankind which will strike at the hearts of all Christianity. We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.

Ana

pre 9 godina

@Rocky "Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!" Why do you want to divert attention from the fact that only in Kosovo and Metohija in the illegal harvesting of timber goes with Kalashnikovs and machine guns, remnants of conflict from 15 years ago?
Albanian "forest thieves" armed with automatic rifles steal deep woods behind the line of demarcation and you call Serbs barbaric??????
What a cynicism and an attempt to blame for the event transferred to the Serbian side. If we need to "mental reform", it is certainly much less than what they should make of Albanian population since they entering illegally on our territory and steal, it's called looting everywhere in the world, only to Kosovo called "freedom of movement".
And why we are barbaric? Because you burned our houses and robbed our Kosovo? You are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, so you better shut up!
Ethnic composition of Kosovo and Metohija: 1871 - albanians - 32%, Serbians - 64%, 1961 - albanians - 67%, Serbians - 27%, 2007 - albanians - 92%, Serbians - 5%.

Kosovo is Serbia

pre 9 godina

Serbian people do not want to join to the European Union! We will require a referendum! Self-proclamation independence of Kosovo is illegal and Serbia will never recognize Kosovo. End of story!

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia would still have to change its constitution. It's constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia. 67% of Serbia says Kosovo is an independent nation so it should be no problem. Dejan pavicevic is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. It has border guards and customs agents on its inrrnstional style border with Kosovo.

Peace

pre 9 godina

Of course they wont sign. Serbia needs a casus belli. Serbs dream for the day they and their cousins start another war, to create "Greater Serbia" to take "back" Kosovo and Dardania.

The many masks you wear, preaching peace in papers,yet acting in a hostile neo-fascist way.
If serbia cant agree on peace, then there should be a kosovo army, preferably with tanks and heli copters. Serbia does not want Peace.

If serbs hope for Russia, oh russia. It has an economy the size of Italy, an aging population and putin is putting draconian laws on internet freedom and freedom of speech. Perhaps russia will have North Korean "internet" where the almighty putin is revered as a god. Surely, north korea is a the perfect state any christian orthodox serb wats to live in.

Putin is turning senile if he really thinks that you consturct an empire in the 21st centry based on christian orthodox religion and religious values.

A potential war again with serbia will cost serbia more than anything else, even in 100 years. Before serbia can preach for war, they will have to work as slave labour for china in 100 years. Asia is going to turn the center of the world and when that happens, europe will be in a very bad shape.

Then you can preach about brotherly orthodox love in chinese.
Serbs remain the joke of the balkans.

pss

pre 9 godina

sj says
Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
You are still a source for amusement. But I am glad you have dropped the international financial wizard façade and now have settled into the senile ultranationalist role.
It will be interesting to see what the next few months will bring. Will Russia shut off the oil or will the EU restrict imports?? Either way how hard will the decrease of 30% oil to the EU be handled, some will be imported from other sources, they can conserve and gain some ground will it be enough? Then how will Russia which is already financially stretched be able to fill the void of losing the major market to their oil sales. They do have that 40 billion dollar deal from China (over the next 30 years) but that won't start for about another 10 if Russia can afford to build the pipeline.
Of course since Putin has already spoken of taking on "nuclear Russia" one has to wonder what the future world scape will look like following a nuclear apocalypse.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 September 2014 15:00)

Let's see how far it has extended, hmmm! Only 16 years ago, there was no notion of Pristina, it was just a city with Serbian army and police. Thaci was in the mountains smuggling weapons from Albania, a nobody. Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points. This is the "pressure" he is talking about, he would rather do things silently without waking up the crazy inside the Serbs. So, it was not very cool for Thaci to come up openly like this and not cover Dacic's behind, like they both need to do. What do you think, how far have it's extended?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Hash & Co. have a tendency of jumping the gun when they get a little too excited - must have been the rush felt giving a speech in an international organization they have no formal membership in. While I'm sure something is going to be signed at the end, we still need to go through a few more years of diplomatic dancing before a point is reached when both sides can feel comfortable (or pressured) to put ink to paper. Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.

Avni

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Serbia will not sign a proposed European peace accord? Then in reality, the Serbian government has been lying to the international community! Serbia has been lying that she has made major democratic changes, she has been lying that she is a nation intent on a peaceful coexistence with her neighbors, she has been lying that she is a key factor of stability in Southern Europe! To the contrary, she continues to show the world & the international community that she Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!, that she will yet again show the civilized world that the Serbia of the future will be intent on pursuing the same murderous expansionist policies of Slobodan Milosevich! I'm am very grateful for Ivica Dacic, he shows to the civilized world Serbia's true intentions!
I guess, Southern Europe will basically remain in the state of war for a long time to come with this recent remark by Dacic! Serbia continues to hold hostage the Balkan states, continues to hinder their aspirations of democratic integration on their road to the EU, continues to hinder the democratic processes achieved thus far by many of these country's of
Southern Europe! Mark my words, Serbia will be the one that starts the next major conflict in Europe yet again, just as in 1914! Serbia for the last 100 years has been and will continue to be the key factor of instability in Southern Europe, Serbia's true intentions are drenched in the blood of 1000s of innocent
victims!

Albanian

pre 9 godina

It does not matter whether Serbia does sign this agreement, or they do decide to turn to East to their Russian cousins. We have seen Serbia rely on Russians before and as 1999 bombings showed Russia let NATO bomb Serbia for 78 nights. We can see sanctions have weakened Russia and devalued their currency by 13% this year alone. The billion dollar question is how much longer can Putin ride on Nationalism? As world analysts have mentioned it is a matter of time before Russians wake up and with hungry stomach, not being able to feed their kids with food. Look at what hungry bears do after a long hibernation, they will do anything necessary to get their share. Unfortunately Mr. Putin will not be able to any longer convince Russians that he is their Savior so to speak, his true lying colors will be revealed and he better run.
Russia could never destroy EU that is a fantasy world Serbians and Russians live in. Soon or later Serbia will do everything it is asked to do to join EU, and this peace agreement may not be as early as Thaci predicts to be, nor will it be as later as Dacic said it would be. Usually both of them don't get things predicted right on date, but it will be done. Serbians, I would like to see you turn to the east because I know you will fail miserably. If you turn to the west I know you will obey their demands as they are written for you.
"You're damned if you don't, and damned if you do." You brought this upon yourself. GOOD LUCK

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbia will never join the EU and all of this dancing around will prove to be a waste of time. The EU is s...... bricks over Ukraine as they know well that should the Russians win their days are numbered as Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
On the second issue, only a chronic moron would have seen WMD in Iraq as being true when even the leader of the UN mission, an American Scott Ritter, said that they did not exist and the US was fabricating evidence.

Interesting

pre 9 godina

Interesting, Everyone knows it is a done deal, it is expected before Serbia can enter the EU, Kosovo has been told it will be done. Serbia knows it will never enter the EU unless it is done, and they continue to everyday announce their goal is to enter the EU, but they still tell their people NO.
When George Bush lied to the American people about WMD as a reason to go into Iraq, at least it was perceived as a possibility.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

nothing beats the feeling of being in a state of perpetual war :-). read further the veracity of what Thaci said is not challenged. either way, peace agreement of no peace agreement, Kosova is is gone and it isn't coming back

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

nothing beats the feeling of being in a state of perpetual war :-). read further the veracity of what Thaci said is not challenged. either way, peace agreement of no peace agreement, Kosova is is gone and it isn't coming back

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Serbia will not sign a proposed European peace accord? Then in reality, the Serbian government has been lying to the international community! Serbia has been lying that she has made major democratic changes, she has been lying that she is a nation intent on a peaceful coexistence with her neighbors, she has been lying that she is a key factor of stability in Southern Europe! To the contrary, she continues to show the world & the international community that she Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!, that she will yet again show the civilized world that the Serbia of the future will be intent on pursuing the same murderous expansionist policies of Slobodan Milosevich! I'm am very grateful for Ivica Dacic, he shows to the civilized world Serbia's true intentions!
I guess, Southern Europe will basically remain in the state of war for a long time to come with this recent remark by Dacic! Serbia continues to hold hostage the Balkan states, continues to hinder their aspirations of democratic integration on their road to the EU, continues to hinder the democratic processes achieved thus far by many of these country's of
Southern Europe! Mark my words, Serbia will be the one that starts the next major conflict in Europe yet again, just as in 1914! Serbia for the last 100 years has been and will continue to be the key factor of instability in Southern Europe, Serbia's true intentions are drenched in the blood of 1000s of innocent
victims!

Albanian

pre 9 godina

It does not matter whether Serbia does sign this agreement, or they do decide to turn to East to their Russian cousins. We have seen Serbia rely on Russians before and as 1999 bombings showed Russia let NATO bomb Serbia for 78 nights. We can see sanctions have weakened Russia and devalued their currency by 13% this year alone. The billion dollar question is how much longer can Putin ride on Nationalism? As world analysts have mentioned it is a matter of time before Russians wake up and with hungry stomach, not being able to feed their kids with food. Look at what hungry bears do after a long hibernation, they will do anything necessary to get their share. Unfortunately Mr. Putin will not be able to any longer convince Russians that he is their Savior so to speak, his true lying colors will be revealed and he better run.
Russia could never destroy EU that is a fantasy world Serbians and Russians live in. Soon or later Serbia will do everything it is asked to do to join EU, and this peace agreement may not be as early as Thaci predicts to be, nor will it be as later as Dacic said it would be. Usually both of them don't get things predicted right on date, but it will be done. Serbians, I would like to see you turn to the east because I know you will fail miserably. If you turn to the west I know you will obey their demands as they are written for you.
"You're damned if you don't, and damned if you do." You brought this upon yourself. GOOD LUCK

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.

Interesting

pre 9 godina

Interesting, Everyone knows it is a done deal, it is expected before Serbia can enter the EU, Kosovo has been told it will be done. Serbia knows it will never enter the EU unless it is done, and they continue to everyday announce their goal is to enter the EU, but they still tell their people NO.
When George Bush lied to the American people about WMD as a reason to go into Iraq, at least it was perceived as a possibility.

Avni

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.

Kosovo is Serbia

pre 9 godina

Serbian people do not want to join to the European Union! We will require a referendum! Self-proclamation independence of Kosovo is illegal and Serbia will never recognize Kosovo. End of story!

Reader

pre 9 godina

Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 September 2014 15:00)

Let's see how far it has extended, hmmm! Only 16 years ago, there was no notion of Pristina, it was just a city with Serbian army and police. Thaci was in the mountains smuggling weapons from Albania, a nobody. Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points. This is the "pressure" he is talking about, he would rather do things silently without waking up the crazy inside the Serbs. So, it was not very cool for Thaci to come up openly like this and not cover Dacic's behind, like they both need to do. What do you think, how far have it's extended?

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbia will never join the EU and all of this dancing around will prove to be a waste of time. The EU is s...... bricks over Ukraine as they know well that should the Russians win their days are numbered as Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
On the second issue, only a chronic moron would have seen WMD in Iraq as being true when even the leader of the UN mission, an American Scott Ritter, said that they did not exist and the US was fabricating evidence.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.
(Avni, 2 September 2014 15:55)

Ivica Dacic can't sign peace deals with Kosovo* until Kosovo has apologized for war crimes, admitted to organ harvesting, arrested all KLA war criminals, located all missing Serb civilians, allowed for all displaced Serbs to return to their homes, rebuild all destroyed churches, monuments, and homes, and pay for all damages since 1999. What Hachim Thaci says today means nothing tomorrow because tomorrow he'll say something else. I've seen this movie too.

Dragolub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo. in 1999 USA, Germany and England lit the fuse to WW3 by supporting, arming and financing terrorist Muslum gangs who were coming in from the whole world to kill and terrorize innocent Christians living peacefully in their ancient home land. NATO savagely and with out mercy bombed Serbia and it's innocent Christian civilians for 78 punishing consecutive days causing massive colateral and structual damage. This support for Islam was a positive turning point, but unfortunately a point of no return for ALL Christians in the world. First response and thanks from Islam was to the USA on September 11, 2001, the Muslum terrorists display to the world what they do the best, kill innocent people. The support from the super powers for the terrorist Muslum gangs will back fire, as the tragic events of September 11, 2001 show, when you support evil, it will grow to a monster and come back later to deal with you. We are living in a new era, biological and nuclear devistation will destroy all humanity on this earth. Islam WILL unleash terror on mankind which will strike at the hearts of all Christianity. We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.

roberto

pre 9 godina

The belgrade regime is just so bizarre. A peace agreement?! No way. But we - Serbia - are the main thrust of peace in the region. All of their utterances, put together, are like some kind of surreal painting that hurts the eyes just looking...

At any rate, as others here have mentioned, no peace agreement until all the thousands of bodies are turned up, either hacked up and decomposing in mass graves or river beds, or the files detailing the industrialized burning of bodies in various furnaces in N Kosova and throughout Serbia. That's the burning elephant in the room, dear B92...

Peace

pre 9 godina

Of course they wont sign. Serbia needs a casus belli. Serbs dream for the day they and their cousins start another war, to create "Greater Serbia" to take "back" Kosovo and Dardania.

The many masks you wear, preaching peace in papers,yet acting in a hostile neo-fascist way.
If serbia cant agree on peace, then there should be a kosovo army, preferably with tanks and heli copters. Serbia does not want Peace.

If serbs hope for Russia, oh russia. It has an economy the size of Italy, an aging population and putin is putting draconian laws on internet freedom and freedom of speech. Perhaps russia will have North Korean "internet" where the almighty putin is revered as a god. Surely, north korea is a the perfect state any christian orthodox serb wats to live in.

Putin is turning senile if he really thinks that you consturct an empire in the 21st centry based on christian orthodox religion and religious values.

A potential war again with serbia will cost serbia more than anything else, even in 100 years. Before serbia can preach for war, they will have to work as slave labour for china in 100 years. Asia is going to turn the center of the world and when that happens, europe will be in a very bad shape.

Then you can preach about brotherly orthodox love in chinese.
Serbs remain the joke of the balkans.

Ana

pre 9 godina

@Rocky "Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!" Why do you want to divert attention from the fact that only in Kosovo and Metohija in the illegal harvesting of timber goes with Kalashnikovs and machine guns, remnants of conflict from 15 years ago?
Albanian "forest thieves" armed with automatic rifles steal deep woods behind the line of demarcation and you call Serbs barbaric??????
What a cynicism and an attempt to blame for the event transferred to the Serbian side. If we need to "mental reform", it is certainly much less than what they should make of Albanian population since they entering illegally on our territory and steal, it's called looting everywhere in the world, only to Kosovo called "freedom of movement".
And why we are barbaric? Because you burned our houses and robbed our Kosovo? You are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, so you better shut up!
Ethnic composition of Kosovo and Metohija: 1871 - albanians - 32%, Serbians - 64%, 1961 - albanians - 67%, Serbians - 27%, 2007 - albanians - 92%, Serbians - 5%.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Hash & Co. have a tendency of jumping the gun when they get a little too excited - must have been the rush felt giving a speech in an international organization they have no formal membership in. While I'm sure something is going to be signed at the end, we still need to go through a few more years of diplomatic dancing before a point is reached when both sides can feel comfortable (or pressured) to put ink to paper. Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia would still have to change its constitution. It's constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia. 67% of Serbia says Kosovo is an independent nation so it should be no problem. Dejan pavicevic is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. It has border guards and customs agents on its inrrnstional style border with Kosovo.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

Ok, and it was Roman before then for 1000 years. I guess then Rome is Kosovo and Kosovo is Rome. So, what's your point, dear, or your just trying to exchange academic research?

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.
(sj, 3 September 2014 00:51)

sj, I hate to break it to you, but the US & Guantanamo Bay are not in Europe/ EU.

I'd love to study you sj, the way your mind works is fascinating. I love the way you make-up outrageous claims out of the blue. My favourite delusion of yours is that you were offered Euros by the CIA in the early 1990s. Marvellous!

pss

pre 9 godina

sj says
Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
You are still a source for amusement. But I am glad you have dropped the international financial wizard façade and now have settled into the senile ultranationalist role.
It will be interesting to see what the next few months will bring. Will Russia shut off the oil or will the EU restrict imports?? Either way how hard will the decrease of 30% oil to the EU be handled, some will be imported from other sources, they can conserve and gain some ground will it be enough? Then how will Russia which is already financially stretched be able to fill the void of losing the major market to their oil sales. They do have that 40 billion dollar deal from China (over the next 30 years) but that won't start for about another 10 if Russia can afford to build the pipeline.
Of course since Putin has already spoken of taking on "nuclear Russia" one has to wonder what the future world scape will look like following a nuclear apocalypse.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points.
(Reader, 2 September 2014 16:03)

Not to worry. Lots of people other than Dacic comment on the weird boasts and proclamations of officials in Pristina. Thaci isn't even the worst of them.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

The only sane words spoken above are: HAHAHA…HAHA !

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace."

If there is a God, which I highly doubt, I see no reason why he/she/it should send you anything. for this particular reason, I reckon God likes us atheists more, we don't ask him/her/it for anything

Ian, UK

pre 9 godina

(sj, 3 September 2014 13:06)

You pass yourself off as a flash Aussie-Serb (I mustn't forget that you descend back to the first settlers) who works in a Chinese bank in Malaysia and that it is your job "to know things". You told me that in your spare time, you talk to your Chinese friend's parents about visa requirements for Australia as they're an authority on the subject.

You do realise that Australia's per-capita debt is larger than the US's per-capita debt, but I never see you telling us that "the end is nigh" for Australia.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"... I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode"

really? out of curiosity, how did you figure that the dinar amount came to 20 Euros's?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God..."

The trouble with believing this, is that you can't subscribe to it, without also subscribing to its inverse; i.e. God also gave people famine, gave them diseases, disabilities etc. the two are linked. you can't on the one hand thank God for beautiful things and ignore the obvious suffering a lot of others go through. as for this "Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity...", I have read the Bible and Kosovo does not figure once in it.

Sigmund M.D.

pre 9 godina

sj

Ian,UK is just a young chap. Boasts of an undergraduate degree in history and, apparently, is currently studying psychiatric nursing. He needs to do some introspective analysis before judging or analyzing you or anyone else. Too immature and egocentric to engage in meaningful dialogue.

sj

pre 9 godina

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

Another Albo with no brains. Pardon, an Albanian Celt. Then why are they so concerned? What for democracy or freedom? You think all that flies is edible. Stick to cleaning bedpans mate and I heard on the grapevine that more cuts are on the way to the British public civil service as the UK’s debt has risen again.

a New Day

pre 9 godina

Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 September 2014 17:19)
You confuse Christianity with Serbian Orthodoxy. Serbian Orthodoxy is a single (small percentage) segment of the Christian religion. Now it might play some role in the Serbian Orthodox religion(but as the heart, why is the head of the sect not in Kosovo?
But regardless of the answer any importance Kosovo plays in the Serbian Orthodox religion, it has NO significance to the Christian Religion as a whole, and is not recognized as a Holy site outside of the Serbian Orthodox sect.

sj

pre 9 godina

“… It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)
I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 2 September 2014 17:31)
If it will make you happy I made it all up, but why waist logic on idiots like you and you backward Albanians. Your brain has been sozzled with US propaganda that you only understand repetition before it starts to sink in to your tiny brain.
You are that mentally challenged that you actually believe that these sanctions are hurting Russia. You’re not even aware that some EU members have no sanctions on Russia and will veto anything further. You cant think for yourself but believe everything TV tells you. Your that bereft of grey cells that you believe EU/US sanctions on banking etc are having an effect on Moscow when Moscow can operate through Asia – you have heard of Asia or maybe you think that anything past San Francisco Bay is the edge of the world. Then there is the Indian subcontinent, Africa South America and so it goes on. Its all BS for your benefit.
The pipeline to China will be finished by late 2016 or early 2017.
Russia does not have to turn off the gas. All it has to do stop importing from the EU which it has started. Ask the EU farmers what they are going to do with all the fruit/vegetables they cant sell to Russia. The next step is ban all manufacturing from Brussels and then you ask the Germans how they are going.
When the US of Piss and Wind is ready go for it mate. Stand in Russia’s way.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 11:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celtic bedpan washer who tries and sell himself off as a superior administrator in the Uk health system. Lad, the only thing you’re capable of studying is a racing form guide.
Not it was not the CIA, but locals and the reason I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode. I have been posting on B92 since just before the GFC and if that is all you can find at fault then I’m happy.
Here is another outrageous claim, the Uk government is now 92% of GDP in debt and for the rest you should read what the US Nobel Prize winning economists, Joe Stiglitz, said about his country and its future while he was lecturing in Sydney recently.
Note how the US plus EU are unable to stop Russia. Doesn’t that tell you something? Don’t alarm bells ring in your little head that something is wrong considering TV tells you all is well????

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

What peace deal ??? God will render the final judgement for all mankind. Tragic world events are escalating rapidly now. From the point of no return for all Christians back in 1999, now every thing is sliding down hill rapidly out of control. Yes God does exist. The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God, special gifted people who gave mankind beautiful inovations in medical and technological advancements. Then there are the evil people who want to turn every thing backwards into the primitive stages by killing, torturing and destroying. Soon the Christian world will awaken to the ultimate terror that will be unleashed upon them and remarkably ALL Christians of all denominations will unite for their survival. Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 13:55)

Actually my neighbour’s parents are here right now and out of interest I asked his father if they had to obtain a visa – his father is a retired doctor and his mother a former school teacher. His reply was no since they reside in one of the economic zones and in fact since this person has retired and receives a pension he can stay in Australia for as long as he wants subject to certain conditions such as paying for his medicare contributions to the Australian government.

I have never boasted or lied about anything involving my background unlike most of your lot who refuse to say what they do with the exception of you. My mother is Australian and some her family do go back to the first fleet (some were in chains when they arrived here). I have siblings and if you think I’m a nationalist you should talk to my sister and she works in the foreign affairs department.

I did work for the Chinese and even gave out details of the bank and ownership structure and yes the bank is owned by the Chinese government. I am now retired in Sydney, and Mosman is the suburb. I’m not sure how it occurs in the UK but where I worked I have made close friendships. Perhaps you don’t.

Australia’s debt is 25% of GDP not 130% mate so it not even close to the US and when I say the west I certainly don’t exclude Australia nor the current knucklehead who they call a Prime Minister.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Serbia will not sign a proposed European peace accord? Then in reality, the Serbian government has been lying to the international community! Serbia has been lying that she has made major democratic changes, she has been lying that she is a nation intent on a peaceful coexistence with her neighbors, she has been lying that she is a key factor of stability in Southern Europe! To the contrary, she continues to show the world & the international community that she Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!, that she will yet again show the civilized world that the Serbia of the future will be intent on pursuing the same murderous expansionist policies of Slobodan Milosevich! I'm am very grateful for Ivica Dacic, he shows to the civilized world Serbia's true intentions!
I guess, Southern Europe will basically remain in the state of war for a long time to come with this recent remark by Dacic! Serbia continues to hold hostage the Balkan states, continues to hinder their aspirations of democratic integration on their road to the EU, continues to hinder the democratic processes achieved thus far by many of these country's of
Southern Europe! Mark my words, Serbia will be the one that starts the next major conflict in Europe yet again, just as in 1914! Serbia for the last 100 years has been and will continue to be the key factor of instability in Southern Europe, Serbia's true intentions are drenched in the blood of 1000s of innocent
victims!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

nothing beats the feeling of being in a state of perpetual war :-). read further the veracity of what Thaci said is not challenged. either way, peace agreement of no peace agreement, Kosova is is gone and it isn't coming back

Albanian

pre 9 godina

It does not matter whether Serbia does sign this agreement, or they do decide to turn to East to their Russian cousins. We have seen Serbia rely on Russians before and as 1999 bombings showed Russia let NATO bomb Serbia for 78 nights. We can see sanctions have weakened Russia and devalued their currency by 13% this year alone. The billion dollar question is how much longer can Putin ride on Nationalism? As world analysts have mentioned it is a matter of time before Russians wake up and with hungry stomach, not being able to feed their kids with food. Look at what hungry bears do after a long hibernation, they will do anything necessary to get their share. Unfortunately Mr. Putin will not be able to any longer convince Russians that he is their Savior so to speak, his true lying colors will be revealed and he better run.
Russia could never destroy EU that is a fantasy world Serbians and Russians live in. Soon or later Serbia will do everything it is asked to do to join EU, and this peace agreement may not be as early as Thaci predicts to be, nor will it be as later as Dacic said it would be. Usually both of them don't get things predicted right on date, but it will be done. Serbians, I would like to see you turn to the east because I know you will fail miserably. If you turn to the west I know you will obey their demands as they are written for you.
"You're damned if you don't, and damned if you do." You brought this upon yourself. GOOD LUCK

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbia will never join the EU and all of this dancing around will prove to be a waste of time. The EU is s...... bricks over Ukraine as they know well that should the Russians win their days are numbered as Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
On the second issue, only a chronic moron would have seen WMD in Iraq as being true when even the leader of the UN mission, an American Scott Ritter, said that they did not exist and the US was fabricating evidence.

Dragolub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo. in 1999 USA, Germany and England lit the fuse to WW3 by supporting, arming and financing terrorist Muslum gangs who were coming in from the whole world to kill and terrorize innocent Christians living peacefully in their ancient home land. NATO savagely and with out mercy bombed Serbia and it's innocent Christian civilians for 78 punishing consecutive days causing massive colateral and structual damage. This support for Islam was a positive turning point, but unfortunately a point of no return for ALL Christians in the world. First response and thanks from Islam was to the USA on September 11, 2001, the Muslum terrorists display to the world what they do the best, kill innocent people. The support from the super powers for the terrorist Muslum gangs will back fire, as the tragic events of September 11, 2001 show, when you support evil, it will grow to a monster and come back later to deal with you. We are living in a new era, biological and nuclear devistation will destroy all humanity on this earth. Islam WILL unleash terror on mankind which will strike at the hearts of all Christianity. We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.

Avni

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Hash & Co. have a tendency of jumping the gun when they get a little too excited - must have been the rush felt giving a speech in an international organization they have no formal membership in. While I'm sure something is going to be signed at the end, we still need to go through a few more years of diplomatic dancing before a point is reached when both sides can feel comfortable (or pressured) to put ink to paper. Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.

Ana

pre 9 godina

@Rocky "Serbia continues to hold her barbaric policies of the 1990s close to heart!" Why do you want to divert attention from the fact that only in Kosovo and Metohija in the illegal harvesting of timber goes with Kalashnikovs and machine guns, remnants of conflict from 15 years ago?
Albanian "forest thieves" armed with automatic rifles steal deep woods behind the line of demarcation and you call Serbs barbaric??????
What a cynicism and an attempt to blame for the event transferred to the Serbian side. If we need to "mental reform", it is certainly much less than what they should make of Albanian population since they entering illegally on our territory and steal, it's called looting everywhere in the world, only to Kosovo called "freedom of movement".
And why we are barbaric? Because you burned our houses and robbed our Kosovo? You are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Kosovo, so you better shut up!
Ethnic composition of Kosovo and Metohija: 1871 - albanians - 32%, Serbians - 64%, 1961 - albanians - 67%, Serbians - 27%, 2007 - albanians - 92%, Serbians - 5%.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Hashim Thaci can't sign peace deals with Serbia until Serbia has apologized for war crimes and pays for war damages. What Ivica Dacic says today means nothing tomorrow. Seen this movie many times.
(Avni, 2 September 2014 15:55)

Ivica Dacic can't sign peace deals with Kosovo* until Kosovo has apologized for war crimes, admitted to organ harvesting, arrested all KLA war criminals, located all missing Serb civilians, allowed for all displaced Serbs to return to their homes, rebuild all destroyed churches, monuments, and homes, and pay for all damages since 1999. What Hachim Thaci says today means nothing tomorrow because tomorrow he'll say something else. I've seen this movie too.

roberto

pre 9 godina

The belgrade regime is just so bizarre. A peace agreement?! No way. But we - Serbia - are the main thrust of peace in the region. All of their utterances, put together, are like some kind of surreal painting that hurts the eyes just looking...

At any rate, as others here have mentioned, no peace agreement until all the thousands of bodies are turned up, either hacked up and decomposing in mass graves or river beds, or the files detailing the industrialized burning of bodies in various furnaces in N Kosova and throughout Serbia. That's the burning elephant in the room, dear B92...

Kosovo is Serbia

pre 9 godina

Serbian people do not want to join to the European Union! We will require a referendum! Self-proclamation independence of Kosovo is illegal and Serbia will never recognize Kosovo. End of story!

Interesting

pre 9 godina

Interesting, Everyone knows it is a done deal, it is expected before Serbia can enter the EU, Kosovo has been told it will be done. Serbia knows it will never enter the EU unless it is done, and they continue to everyday announce their goal is to enter the EU, but they still tell their people NO.
When George Bush lied to the American people about WMD as a reason to go into Iraq, at least it was perceived as a possibility.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points.
(Reader, 2 September 2014 16:03)

Not to worry. Lots of people other than Dacic comment on the weird boasts and proclamations of officials in Pristina. Thaci isn't even the worst of them.

sj

pre 9 godina

“… It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)
I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.

Peace

pre 9 godina

Of course they wont sign. Serbia needs a casus belli. Serbs dream for the day they and their cousins start another war, to create "Greater Serbia" to take "back" Kosovo and Dardania.

The many masks you wear, preaching peace in papers,yet acting in a hostile neo-fascist way.
If serbia cant agree on peace, then there should be a kosovo army, preferably with tanks and heli copters. Serbia does not want Peace.

If serbs hope for Russia, oh russia. It has an economy the size of Italy, an aging population and putin is putting draconian laws on internet freedom and freedom of speech. Perhaps russia will have North Korean "internet" where the almighty putin is revered as a god. Surely, north korea is a the perfect state any christian orthodox serb wats to live in.

Putin is turning senile if he really thinks that you consturct an empire in the 21st centry based on christian orthodox religion and religious values.

A potential war again with serbia will cost serbia more than anything else, even in 100 years. Before serbia can preach for war, they will have to work as slave labour for china in 100 years. Asia is going to turn the center of the world and when that happens, europe will be in a very bad shape.

Then you can preach about brotherly orthodox love in chinese.
Serbs remain the joke of the balkans.

sj

pre 9 godina

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

Another Albo with no brains. Pardon, an Albanian Celt. Then why are they so concerned? What for democracy or freedom? You think all that flies is edible. Stick to cleaning bedpans mate and I heard on the grapevine that more cuts are on the way to the British public civil service as the UK’s debt has risen again.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 11:52)
Ahh the Albanian Celtic bedpan washer who tries and sell himself off as a superior administrator in the Uk health system. Lad, the only thing you’re capable of studying is a racing form guide.
Not it was not the CIA, but locals and the reason I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode. I have been posting on B92 since just before the GFC and if that is all you can find at fault then I’m happy.
Here is another outrageous claim, the Uk government is now 92% of GDP in debt and for the rest you should read what the US Nobel Prize winning economists, Joe Stiglitz, said about his country and its future while he was lecturing in Sydney recently.
Note how the US plus EU are unable to stop Russia. Doesn’t that tell you something? Don’t alarm bells ring in your little head that something is wrong considering TV tells you all is well????

Reader

pre 9 godina

Until that time, Pristina still needs to realize what its authority is, and how far it's extended.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 2 September 2014 15:00)

Let's see how far it has extended, hmmm! Only 16 years ago, there was no notion of Pristina, it was just a city with Serbian army and police. Thaci was in the mountains smuggling weapons from Albania, a nobody. Now, Thaci says something and Dacic has to comment on it, othwerwise he loses points. This is the "pressure" he is talking about, he would rather do things silently without waking up the crazy inside the Serbs. So, it was not very cool for Thaci to come up openly like this and not cover Dacic's behind, like they both need to do. What do you think, how far have it's extended?

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia would still have to change its constitution. It's constitution says Kosovo is a part of Serbia. 67% of Serbia says Kosovo is an independent nation so it should be no problem. Dejan pavicevic is serbias ambassador to Kosovo. It has border guards and customs agents on its inrrnstional style border with Kosovo.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 2 September 2014 17:31)
If it will make you happy I made it all up, but why waist logic on idiots like you and you backward Albanians. Your brain has been sozzled with US propaganda that you only understand repetition before it starts to sink in to your tiny brain.
You are that mentally challenged that you actually believe that these sanctions are hurting Russia. You’re not even aware that some EU members have no sanctions on Russia and will veto anything further. You cant think for yourself but believe everything TV tells you. Your that bereft of grey cells that you believe EU/US sanctions on banking etc are having an effect on Moscow when Moscow can operate through Asia – you have heard of Asia or maybe you think that anything past San Francisco Bay is the edge of the world. Then there is the Indian subcontinent, Africa South America and so it goes on. Its all BS for your benefit.
The pipeline to China will be finished by late 2016 or early 2017.
Russia does not have to turn off the gas. All it has to do stop importing from the EU which it has started. Ask the EU farmers what they are going to do with all the fruit/vegetables they cant sell to Russia. The next step is ban all manufacturing from Brussels and then you ask the Germans how they are going.
When the US of Piss and Wind is ready go for it mate. Stand in Russia’s way.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

What peace deal ??? God will render the final judgement for all mankind. Tragic world events are escalating rapidly now. From the point of no return for all Christians back in 1999, now every thing is sliding down hill rapidly out of control. Yes God does exist. The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God, special gifted people who gave mankind beautiful inovations in medical and technological advancements. Then there are the evil people who want to turn every thing backwards into the primitive stages by killing, torturing and destroying. Soon the Christian world will awaken to the ultimate terror that will be unleashed upon them and remarkably ALL Christians of all denominations will unite for their survival. Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo, ancient sacred home land for over 900 years of Christian Serbia. Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

Ok, and it was Roman before then for 1000 years. I guess then Rome is Kosovo and Kosovo is Rome. So, what's your point, dear, or your just trying to exchange academic research?

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

sj

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(Ian, UK, 3 September 2014 13:55)

Actually my neighbour’s parents are here right now and out of interest I asked his father if they had to obtain a visa – his father is a retired doctor and his mother a former school teacher. His reply was no since they reside in one of the economic zones and in fact since this person has retired and receives a pension he can stay in Australia for as long as he wants subject to certain conditions such as paying for his medicare contributions to the Australian government.

I have never boasted or lied about anything involving my background unlike most of your lot who refuse to say what they do with the exception of you. My mother is Australian and some her family do go back to the first fleet (some were in chains when they arrived here). I have siblings and if you think I’m a nationalist you should talk to my sister and she works in the foreign affairs department.

I did work for the Chinese and even gave out details of the bank and ownership structure and yes the bank is owned by the Chinese government. I am now retired in Sydney, and Mosman is the suburb. I’m not sure how it occurs in the UK but where I worked I have made close friendships. Perhaps you don’t.

Australia’s debt is 25% of GDP not 130% mate so it not even close to the US and when I say the west I certainly don’t exclude Australia nor the current knucklehead who they call a Prime Minister.

Sigmund M.D.

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sj

Ian,UK is just a young chap. Boasts of an undergraduate degree in history and, apparently, is currently studying psychiatric nursing. He needs to do some introspective analysis before judging or analyzing you or anyone else. Too immature and egocentric to engage in meaningful dialogue.

The Count of Kosova

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Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)


HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

The only sane words spoken above are: HAHAHA…HAHA !

The Count of Kosova

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We Orthodox Christians pray for ALL mankind no matter what religion or race, we are all human under one God. Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace.
(Dragolub Djurkovic, 2 September 2014 19:53)

What makes you so sure it is ONLY Orthodox Christians who pray for peace for ALL mankind. Is that what is taught to you each Sunday. Perhaps that is, PARTIALLY, the root of everyone's problem.

pss

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sj says
Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
You are still a source for amusement. But I am glad you have dropped the international financial wizard façade and now have settled into the senile ultranationalist role.
It will be interesting to see what the next few months will bring. Will Russia shut off the oil or will the EU restrict imports?? Either way how hard will the decrease of 30% oil to the EU be handled, some will be imported from other sources, they can conserve and gain some ground will it be enough? Then how will Russia which is already financially stretched be able to fill the void of losing the major market to their oil sales. They do have that 40 billion dollar deal from China (over the next 30 years) but that won't start for about another 10 if Russia can afford to build the pipeline.
Of course since Putin has already spoken of taking on "nuclear Russia" one has to wonder what the future world scape will look like following a nuclear apocalypse.

Ian, UK

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Moscow intends to destroy the EU so they never again pose a threat to them.
(sj, 2 September 2014 12:28)

HAHAHA…HAHA !
(Ian, UK, 2 September 2014 12:42)

I agree, funny indeed. Moscow wont and can't destroy the EU faster than the EU is already doing so itself. It's demise is inevitable, but it wont be because of Russia. It will be because it is against the wills of the people in Europe.
(Ari Gold, 2 September 2014 13:13)

I wish that was true, but western politicians are no longer answerable to the people. They are owned by corporations. In fact they ignore the populace completely, how many times have you heard during election campaigns promises from a party only to never have them fulfilled when in office. Once such classic example is the closure of Guantanamo Bay. It’s still open.
The US is well prepared for any uprising since even its police force has become militarised as the event with the killing of that young black man by a police officer. Police looked more like soldiers. Obama made some noise about investigating the sale of military equipment to local police forces, but nothing will come of that.
(sj, 3 September 2014 00:51)

sj, I hate to break it to you, but the US & Guantanamo Bay are not in Europe/ EU.

I'd love to study you sj, the way your mind works is fascinating. I love the way you make-up outrageous claims out of the blue. My favourite delusion of yours is that you were offered Euros by the CIA in the early 1990s. Marvellous!

Ian, UK

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(sj, 3 September 2014 13:06)

You pass yourself off as a flash Aussie-Serb (I mustn't forget that you descend back to the first settlers) who works in a Chinese bank in Malaysia and that it is your job "to know things". You told me that in your spare time, you talk to your Chinese friend's parents about visa requirements for Australia as they're an authority on the subject.

You do realise that Australia's per-capita debt is larger than the US's per-capita debt, but I never see you telling us that "the end is nigh" for Australia.

Nikolle

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"Dear Lord in Heaven look down upon us ALL and send us the one gift of Peace."

If there is a God, which I highly doubt, I see no reason why he/she/it should send you anything. for this particular reason, I reckon God likes us atheists more, we don't ask him/her/it for anything

Nikolle

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"... I used Euros was simply to give a comparison of value at that time as the dinar was moving into super inflation mode"

really? out of curiosity, how did you figure that the dinar amount came to 20 Euros's?

Nikolle

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"The last few centuries all mankind was blessed by many gifts from God..."

The trouble with believing this, is that you can't subscribe to it, without also subscribing to its inverse; i.e. God also gave people famine, gave them diseases, disabilities etc. the two are linked. you can't on the one hand thank God for beautiful things and ignore the obvious suffering a lot of others go through. as for this "Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity...", I have read the Bible and Kosovo does not figure once in it.

a New Day

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Kosovo the sacred most Holy land of Christianity will always be remembered, never to be forgotten again by the Christian world. This is my last comment, now we all wait for the judgement.
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 September 2014 17:19)
You confuse Christianity with Serbian Orthodoxy. Serbian Orthodoxy is a single (small percentage) segment of the Christian religion. Now it might play some role in the Serbian Orthodox religion(but as the heart, why is the head of the sect not in Kosovo?
But regardless of the answer any importance Kosovo plays in the Serbian Orthodox religion, it has NO significance to the Christian Religion as a whole, and is not recognized as a Holy site outside of the Serbian Orthodox sect.