Declaration supporting South Stream signed in Vienna

South Stream is a very important fragmentation of the world-wide warfare USA has launched against Russia. They have 3 strategic enemies – Russia , China and EU to threaten the ending US domination. Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO.

But you cannot deceive people for long periods as once F.D. Roosevelt said. You cannot all the time tell fairy tales about democracy and send armaments to Jihadists or Pravi Sector. You cannot freeze Europe just because Yatsenuk had promised you the pipe and Donbass shale gas or because you need missiles closer to Moscow.

So it was very wise of the 3 states to make the statement. Besides they have chosen tactically good time and place for the demonstration. Having a partner the headache of EU like Victor Orban also was a good idea. To say nothing of the heavyweight Austria and Italy in the shadow. Last night Italian Ambassador to Russia has claimed that his country fully supports the Stream.

For 23 years Ukraine existed with annual USD 8-19 Bln. Russian aid. But now the communism has stopped and it EUSA’s turn to pay the bills of the Russophobe regime they have brought to power. The US have promised a lot but they loaned only peanuts because they even do not hope to save the gang. The US are getting more stupid every year and whatever they start to do only harms them.

BRAVO !!!! adelante.....

(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)
sounds more like someone has lost the dividing line of Russian propaganda and reality to me.

rote says
"Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO."
I don't think there could be a dumber statement. Without Europe or the EU there is no NATO.
At least come up with believable stuff.

a New Day

“Without Europe or the EU there is no NATO.”

Now I don't think there could be a dumber statement ! Or you really believe that EU armies are worth of anything but sarcasm ? If tomorrow Ramzan Kadirov is told to occupy 6-7 central European countries next week he’ll be happy to do it. At least he will destroy all their armed forces using only the police … NATO is nothing but the US and the English forces. Even France costs little. Enter any Afghan site and ask anybody what they think about the Americans and the Russians. Which of them are warriors and which are computer cowards. If only you are ready to hear the evident.

So Europe tribute almost nothing to NATO. The marriage contract initially contained the obligations. One side obeys and sucks the way Sykorski has described last week while the other side provides defense. Besides you should remember that it was Russia that has saved NATO in 1999. Unless Russia betrayed Serbia and begged Slobo to give up Serbs would have eliminated NATO infantry. It was one of the biggest mistakes Russia has done recently. NATO has not won any real war as it wasn’t designed to win wars. It was designed to suck and this job Europeans can do very well. This is why they are so successful in LGBT parades and other subcultures of the kind.

sounds more like someone has lost the dividing line of Russian propaganda and reality to me.
(just a thought, 4 July 2014 14:47)

IT’S BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN. READ MY POST TWICE AND REMEMBER TO COMPARE THINGS WHEN THEY START TO HAPPEN. RUSSIA WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO YOU SOON AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. JUST BE PATINT ENOUGH AND WAIT ANOTHER 3-4 MONTHS.

(rote, 4 July 2014 18:12
Wow all caps, I am impressed, but from reading your 2 posts you tend to believe the annual parades that Russia shows to make ITS people believe it is the most powerful force in the world.
Words do bring about fear in me, you sound like Milosevic's press corp when he thought he could withstand anything NATO through at him and caved in 78 days. Your traditional weaponry is still behind the times and will take years and much cost to update it. A battle between Russia and the EU or US or NATO will eventually turn nuclear and there will be NO winners. Such a putz!

South Stream is a very important fragmentation of the world-wide warfare USA has launched against Russia.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

Where is this war being fought, dear? Which planet should we be looking for it?
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They have 3 strategic enemies – Russia , China and EU to threaten the ending US domination.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

So, they are not enemies, they are friends since they are threatening the ending of US domination. They would be enemies if they threaten the US domination, not the ending of it :)

No problem, mate, I understand that when somebody starts to build a web of arguments that make no sense, if becomes difficult to understand them even for the arguments' author him/herself.
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Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

I'm perplexed... If Yanks sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO, after you take Europe out, only US and Canada remain in NATO. That sounds like the Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip on themselves :)

IT’S BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN. READ MY POST TWICE AND REMEMBER TO COMPARE THINGS WHEN THEY START TO HAPPEN. RUSSIA WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO YOU SOON AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. JUST BE PATINT ENOUGH AND WAIT ANOTHER 3-4 MONTHS.
(rote, 4 July 2014 18:12)

We will give you the benefit of the doubt; we'll wait until the end of the year before asking you when those heavenly things you mentioned above will happen :)

NATO has not won any real war as it wasn’t designed to win wars. It was designed to suck and this job Europeans can do very well. This is why they are so successful in LGBT parades and other subcultures of the kind.
(rote, 4 July 2014 18:04)

Hahahahaha... So, NATO was designed for the Europeans to have something to suck. Even assuming your sucking fantasies are correct, that makes no sense.. They could have simply paid the Europeans to suck - why create NATO for that purpose :)

Btw, are you a member of the LGBT community? Not that it matters, but just out of curiosity since you are one of the most active contributors to the LGBT topic...

To my Albanian followers !

Thank you all it was very amusing ! I learned from you that Russia though very weak can destroy the whole world. Also I learned from you that I am an LGBT. Please detalize if am I a gay or a lesbian so that I could tell it to my wife and my children. Besides now I know that those who need out of date weapons go to Russia while update ones are bought from the USA. This is why last year they sold armaments for USD 21 Bln. and Russia only for USD 19 Bln. And of course Dutch or Czech soldiers are much braver than the Serbian ones and thus it was Slobo’s good luck that Russia had not supplied him S-300. Otherwise the Dutch could destroy Serbs in a week. My special apologies for doubting that NATO potentially can win a war someday. Yesterday enlargement meeting showed how fast they take decisions and careful they are not to irritate Russia. Anyway I ask you all not to stop teaching me and help me withstand destroy Putin’s propaganda machine.

New Day
icj1

Five Russian Weapons of War NATO Should Fear

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/five-russian-weapons-war-nato-should-fear-10816

OK I agree but why do you think Russia will give up Ukraine ? To my mind most likely Russia will take Ukraine back and nobody in the West will even move a finger. They will introduce sanctions and demonize Russia but they will helplessly watch the bear to swallow Ukraine back. And because nuclear war can solve all the existing problems in the world it would be wise of the west to stop where they are. Otherwise it all reminds the WW1 scenario. Anyway do not deceive yourself because the Russians have all the tools to keep Ukraine closer and they don’t seem to retreat. Something tells me that Bandera’s grandsons have smaller chances to seize Donetsk than the rebellions to seize Kiev this autumn. And it may be the secret plan of Putin. This is why he strives so hard to win time. You never know what the bear will do next.

(RK, 7 July 2014 22:45
If the time comes we will take our chances. Like I said any war between the US and Russia WILL become nuclear so do you really think you will be alive in the aftermath??

Rote,

In the event of war, I will make it simple for you to understand: Russia's military is to the U.S. military as Brazil's football team is to Germany's team. I hope you get it since I can't make it any simpler for you to understand.

(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)
sounds more like someone has lost the dividing line of Russian propaganda and reality to me.

rote says
"Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO."
I don't think there could be a dumber statement. Without Europe or the EU there is no NATO.
At least come up with believable stuff.

South Stream is a very important fragmentation of the world-wide warfare USA has launched against Russia. They have 3 strategic enemies – Russia , China and EU to threaten the ending US domination. Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO.

But you cannot deceive people for long periods as once F.D. Roosevelt said. You cannot all the time tell fairy tales about democracy and send armaments to Jihadists or Pravi Sector. You cannot freeze Europe just because Yatsenuk had promised you the pipe and Donbass shale gas or because you need missiles closer to Moscow.

So it was very wise of the 3 states to make the statement. Besides they have chosen tactically good time and place for the demonstration. Having a partner the headache of EU like Victor Orban also was a good idea. To say nothing of the heavyweight Austria and Italy in the shadow. Last night Italian Ambassador to Russia has claimed that his country fully supports the Stream.

For 23 years Ukraine existed with annual USD 8-19 Bln. Russian aid. But now the communism has stopped and it EUSA’s turn to pay the bills of the Russophobe regime they have brought to power. The US have promised a lot but they loaned only peanuts because they even do not hope to save the gang. The US are getting more stupid every year and whatever they start to do only harms them.

sounds more like someone has lost the dividing line of Russian propaganda and reality to me.
(just a thought, 4 July 2014 14:47)

IT’S BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN. READ MY POST TWICE AND REMEMBER TO COMPARE THINGS WHEN THEY START TO HAPPEN. RUSSIA WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO YOU SOON AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. JUST BE PATINT ENOUGH AND WAIT ANOTHER 3-4 MONTHS.

To my Albanian followers !

Thank you all it was very amusing ! I learned from you that Russia though very weak can destroy the whole world. Also I learned from you that I am an LGBT. Please detalize if am I a gay or a lesbian so that I could tell it to my wife and my children. Besides now I know that those who need out of date weapons go to Russia while update ones are bought from the USA. This is why last year they sold armaments for USD 21 Bln. and Russia only for USD 19 Bln. And of course Dutch or Czech soldiers are much braver than the Serbian ones and thus it was Slobo’s good luck that Russia had not supplied him S-300. Otherwise the Dutch could destroy Serbs in a week. My special apologies for doubting that NATO potentially can win a war someday. Yesterday enlargement meeting showed how fast they take decisions and careful they are not to irritate Russia. Anyway I ask you all not to stop teaching me and help me withstand destroy Putin’s propaganda machine.

a New Day

“Without Europe or the EU there is no NATO.”

Now I don't think there could be a dumber statement ! Or you really believe that EU armies are worth of anything but sarcasm ? If tomorrow Ramzan Kadirov is told to occupy 6-7 central European countries next week he’ll be happy to do it. At least he will destroy all their armed forces using only the police … NATO is nothing but the US and the English forces. Even France costs little. Enter any Afghan site and ask anybody what they think about the Americans and the Russians. Which of them are warriors and which are computer cowards. If only you are ready to hear the evident.

So Europe tribute almost nothing to NATO. The marriage contract initially contained the obligations. One side obeys and sucks the way Sykorski has described last week while the other side provides defense. Besides you should remember that it was Russia that has saved NATO in 1999. Unless Russia betrayed Serbia and begged Slobo to give up Serbs would have eliminated NATO infantry. It was one of the biggest mistakes Russia has done recently. NATO has not won any real war as it wasn’t designed to win wars. It was designed to suck and this job Europeans can do very well. This is why they are so successful in LGBT parades and other subcultures of the kind.

IT’S BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN. READ MY POST TWICE AND REMEMBER TO COMPARE THINGS WHEN THEY START TO HAPPEN. RUSSIA WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO YOU SOON AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. JUST BE PATINT ENOUGH AND WAIT ANOTHER 3-4 MONTHS.
(rote, 4 July 2014 18:12)

We will give you the benefit of the doubt; we'll wait until the end of the year before asking you when those heavenly things you mentioned above will happen :)

NATO has not won any real war as it wasn’t designed to win wars. It was designed to suck and this job Europeans can do very well. This is why they are so successful in LGBT parades and other subcultures of the kind.
(rote, 4 July 2014 18:04)

Hahahahaha... So, NATO was designed for the Europeans to have something to suck. Even assuming your sucking fantasies are correct, that makes no sense.. They could have simply paid the Europeans to suck - why create NATO for that purpose :)

Btw, are you a member of the LGBT community? Not that it matters, but just out of curiosity since you are one of the most active contributors to the LGBT topic...

OK I agree but why do you think Russia will give up Ukraine ? To my mind most likely Russia will take Ukraine back and nobody in the West will even move a finger. They will introduce sanctions and demonize Russia but they will helplessly watch the bear to swallow Ukraine back. And because nuclear war can solve all the existing problems in the world it would be wise of the west to stop where they are. Otherwise it all reminds the WW1 scenario. Anyway do not deceive yourself because the Russians have all the tools to keep Ukraine closer and they don’t seem to retreat. Something tells me that Bandera’s grandsons have smaller chances to seize Donetsk than the rebellions to seize Kiev this autumn. And it may be the secret plan of Putin. This is why he strives so hard to win time. You never know what the bear will do next.

(rote, 4 July 2014 18:12
Wow all caps, I am impressed, but from reading your 2 posts you tend to believe the annual parades that Russia shows to make ITS people believe it is the most powerful force in the world.
Words do bring about fear in me, you sound like Milosevic's press corp when he thought he could withstand anything NATO through at him and caved in 78 days. Your traditional weaponry is still behind the times and will take years and much cost to update it. A battle between Russia and the EU or US or NATO will eventually turn nuclear and there will be NO winners. Such a putz!

BRAVO !!!! adelante.....

South Stream is a very important fragmentation of the world-wide warfare USA has launched against Russia.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

Where is this war being fought, dear? Which planet should we be looking for it?
----------

They have 3 strategic enemies – Russia , China and EU to threaten the ending US domination.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

So, they are not enemies, they are friends since they are threatening the ending of US domination. They would be enemies if they threaten the US domination, not the ending of it :)

No problem, mate, I understand that when somebody starts to build a web of arguments that make no sense, if becomes difficult to understand them even for the arguments' author him/herself.
----------

Though they do not advertise EU is also a target everybody knows that Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO.
(rote, 4 July 2014 11:22)

I'm perplexed... If Yanks sacrifice Europe to revive the grip and to reinforce NATO, after you take Europe out, only US and Canada remain in NATO. That sounds like the Yanks are ready to sacrifice Europe to revive the grip on themselves :)

New Day
icj1

Five Russian Weapons of War NATO Should Fear

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/five-russian-weapons-war-nato-should-fear-10816

(RK, 7 July 2014 22:45
If the time comes we will take our chances. Like I said any war between the US and Russia WILL become nuclear so do you really think you will be alive in the aftermath??

Rote,

In the event of war, I will make it simple for you to understand: Russia's military is to the U.S. military as Brazil's football team is to Germany's team. I hope you get it since I can't make it any simpler for you to understand.