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Monday, 28.04.2014.

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Nikolić: Recognition of Kosovo is unacceptable

Serbia wants to become a part of the EU as soon as possible and is willing to compromise on anything during the talks with the EU, says Tomislav Nikolić.

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kevin dale

pre 9 godina

The main problem in this issue is the Serbian mentality, these people are corrupt and full of evil intention. These "people" attempted to murder a nation full of old people, young men and women. This sort of behaviour was last reproduced on our planet....and luckily extinguished in 1945....
The people of Kosovo do not deserve to be treated as criminals and kept from travelling out of their own country...for being victims????
The Serbians responsible should be brought to justice and the inbred evil in that country should be kept within its borders as a minimum penalty for their evil, contempt and hate for innocent people.
It is time justice was done by the EU, how can any country be guilty of defending itself against genocide, the Serbian people should never be allowed to join Europe.

j

pre 10 godina

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


-- sj, don't worry about it. We're dealing with the technicalities. If it makes you feel better you can still call us a territory with an army. Watch if we give a damn about it. Choose any epithet you want. See if we care.

The point in this whole thing is not about getting approval by an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be a self-professed expert on matters of finance and justice. The point is to make the army and become a NATO member years down the road. This is the first step.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01
I know the economic situation in the US and have never denied that it is a huge issue. But when you portray the US as some third world country where everyperson is begging on the street, then I speak up.
Now most of your claims are bs and I challenge you on them as to where you get such information.
Also your idiotic assumptions that the US has NO influence anymore or your asinine assertions that because the US is being careful in how they handle the Ukraine situation means we are doing so because of being broke or just hot air. You claim to be some sort of expert on the world stage but yet you have no concept of what a World War would do to the global economy. You still think China would thrive without a market for their cheap labor. You think Russia would annihilate the US and the next day life in the rest of the world will continue as nothing happened.

I challenge you on statements you make like Ashton has said many times that the EU wants to integrate the Kosovo economy into Serbia, when you know it is a lie, everyone reading it knows it is a lie. And true to your most predictable self, instead of taking the time to prove me wrong you go on a tirade trying to shift from the subject.
I take you have accepted your new title as sj the lsos.
Why has Russia not with its soldiers on the border, marched into Ukraine already? Or why were the Russian forces in Crimea wearing uniforms without insignias?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't worry sj, i stopped taking you seriously a long time ago, particularly since you told me you'd been paid 20 EURO's in 1994

sj

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 11:36)
Once again a classic stupid stament. Comparing Serbia with the US. That’s why I treat you guys as a joke.

sj

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 10:11)
This is why I do not take seriously anyhting these Albanians mention. What a supid statment“who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country“. Serbia has a larger population. It has huge tracts of arible land, water resources, minieral energy and so on. What does kosovo have except mouths to feed. Is there any wonder you think the US is still top dog..

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it.
(j, 30 April 2014 01:36)

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


"But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well?"
(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01)
The same way it survived so far: From international donations, on state level or personal level, i.e. people that work in the USA, Switzerland or elsewhere sending money to their poor families in Kosovo. This all, paired with billions of drug money (Kosovo because Europe's main drug hub under the Thaci regime) and money from other 'activities', I don't have to be more specific, do I?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 29 April 2014 17:01)

Jesus Christ are you dumb. But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well? What they are going to thrive on US BS? Is that the reason the US is looking so good?

I and others have been saying for the last 6 years that the US has serious economic problems, but people like you wanted proof – “show me a link where it say that”? Well in 2008 you were only 12 trillion in debt, but by Christmas 2014 you will be 19 trillion.

Why do you think the EU wants good “neighbourly” relations? Because they want all the old Yugo republics to work as they did before the break up because the EU cannot fund them any more.

Wake up. You really are so brainwashed that if they told you to jump of a cliff you would do just that.

j

pre 10 godina

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!
(sj, 29 April 2014 10:53)

Don't worry about the money. Serbia is broke and has an army. If you can beg for money to maintain an army we can do it too. By the way do you have milk in Belgrade now?


Comm.Parrison- It is precisely because Serbia has an army that Kosova needs an army. It is precisely because of your line of thought which claims that Serbia needs a strong army that Kosova needs to have its own army. If for nothing else just as a deterrent.

When Serbia decides to dissolve its army then we will not have one. It's simple. If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it. It is just another thing it has to think of when entertaining any stupid thoughts of an armed takeover. Even if it provides resistance just for a few days ,if Serbia decides to start another war, we will not be totally defenseless. Of course the goal will be to provide resistence for a longer time if Serbia attacks. There has to be a way to defend ourselves from Serbia.

sj

pre 10 godina

well, sj, why on Earth is Mr Nikolic reacting then? Does he know something that you don't?
(Nikolle, 29 April 2014 14:44)

Of course Nikolic would raise such an issue if only to reaffirm that it never happens. The EU is in debt up to its neck trying to save its members and you think they are going to borrow more to train, equip and maintain a standing army in Kosovo???? They already have one there.

However, tell who is paying for this army? Who will continue to pay for it in the future? An army is a luxury to a place like Kosovo as it lives off EU handouts. But as you seem to see that I am wrong I await your response.

pss

pre 10 godina

Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.

(sj, 29 April 2014 10:49)
Ok here is your chance, we all know this is your typical bull, so prove us wrong, since you say on several occasions, give us just one link to see a validation. It must be something more than your typical this was at a meeting of you and the political elite so it was never recorded or the press refused to print it.
Give the example a link we can go to or forever resign yourself to the official title "lying sac of s..."

sj

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.
(Nikolle, 28 April 2014 18:36)

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!

Questioner

pre 10 godina

While reading thise statements of Nikolic on compare them to other ones spoken on other occasions, I sometimes ask myself if he has some problem with a split personality, or does he only strictly separate the words used for international and national audience?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army."
(blue and gold, 28 April 2014 22:40)

Serbia doesn't need to have 'territorial aspirations', because legally, Kosovo is a part of Serbia under temporary UN administration.

With the same arguments, you could say: Serbia has a need to strengthen its forces as long as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority in the southern province thinks it can declare an own state on Serbian territory. Think about it.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"...as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority"

what on earth is this? how can one self-proclaim itself an ethnic minority? what other bizarre thing are you going to 'self-proclaim' next? p.s. i've always wondered why you write under 2 identities here, Questioner & Comm?

sj

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.
(Mirel from Albania, 28 April 2014 21:36)
The late Holbrooke was right, however, this is not 1999 but 2014 and many things have changed including geopolitical power where the United States of Wind Bags are all hot air.
Sadly most Albanians think that the EU has money trees and there is an endless supply, but thanks to the toxic mortage loans in the US and Washington’s failures in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Ukraine, Brussels is in no postion to demand anything at all. Even Ashton adminted that there would be no requirement for Serbia to recognise an indepedent Kosovo.
Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.
However, once Ukrainbe is taken, the EU will have a new master and that is whne things begin to change very quickly.

blue and gold

pre 10 godina

“The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.”
He answers this question by himself:
“…- recognizing the self-declared independence of Kosovo is unacceptable.”
In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army.

Brian

pre 10 godina

Kosovo recognition is not unacceptable to most of Serbia! 63% explicitly say Kosovo is an independent nation in polls and over 90% of voters voted for Brussels supporting parties. Nikolic says a kosovos army is fine as Serbs can have a unit and he meets with jahjaga as an equal in meetings and conferences!

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.

BOPA

pre 10 godina

Knowing a bit history what took place we can agree Kosovo's only threat and real enemy is the state of Serbia, so why should't they have the right to defend themselves? Looks to me western Balkans will have a balance of power in the coming decades and perhaps what might only make if peaceful.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.

the truth

pre 10 godina

The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.

But if some kind of an armed force should be formed, then the Serbs have to be entitled to a reciprocal share in it, like the way it was done with the police, he stressed.

Nikolić protested against the decision by the authorities in Priština to require personal documents issued by the Kosovo administration in order to be allowed to vote.

It is unacceptable to Serbia, because it would be an a priori recognition of Kosovo's independence, he postulated.

The undertaker has no clue what he is bumbling about. Good luck Tomo.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.

BOPA

pre 10 godina

Knowing a bit history what took place we can agree Kosovo's only threat and real enemy is the state of Serbia, so why should't they have the right to defend themselves? Looks to me western Balkans will have a balance of power in the coming decades and perhaps what might only make if peaceful.

the truth

pre 10 godina

The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.

But if some kind of an armed force should be formed, then the Serbs have to be entitled to a reciprocal share in it, like the way it was done with the police, he stressed.

Nikolić protested against the decision by the authorities in Priština to require personal documents issued by the Kosovo administration in order to be allowed to vote.

It is unacceptable to Serbia, because it would be an a priori recognition of Kosovo's independence, he postulated.

The undertaker has no clue what he is bumbling about. Good luck Tomo.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"...as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority"

what on earth is this? how can one self-proclaim itself an ethnic minority? what other bizarre thing are you going to 'self-proclaim' next? p.s. i've always wondered why you write under 2 identities here, Questioner & Comm?

blue and gold

pre 10 godina

“The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.”
He answers this question by himself:
“…- recognizing the self-declared independence of Kosovo is unacceptable.”
In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

While reading thise statements of Nikolic on compare them to other ones spoken on other occasions, I sometimes ask myself if he has some problem with a split personality, or does he only strictly separate the words used for international and national audience?

sj

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.
(Nikolle, 28 April 2014 18:36)

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army."
(blue and gold, 28 April 2014 22:40)

Serbia doesn't need to have 'territorial aspirations', because legally, Kosovo is a part of Serbia under temporary UN administration.

With the same arguments, you could say: Serbia has a need to strengthen its forces as long as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority in the southern province thinks it can declare an own state on Serbian territory. Think about it.

sj

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.
(Mirel from Albania, 28 April 2014 21:36)
The late Holbrooke was right, however, this is not 1999 but 2014 and many things have changed including geopolitical power where the United States of Wind Bags are all hot air.
Sadly most Albanians think that the EU has money trees and there is an endless supply, but thanks to the toxic mortage loans in the US and Washington’s failures in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Ukraine, Brussels is in no postion to demand anything at all. Even Ashton adminted that there would be no requirement for Serbia to recognise an indepedent Kosovo.
Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.
However, once Ukrainbe is taken, the EU will have a new master and that is whne things begin to change very quickly.

j

pre 10 godina

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!
(sj, 29 April 2014 10:53)

Don't worry about the money. Serbia is broke and has an army. If you can beg for money to maintain an army we can do it too. By the way do you have milk in Belgrade now?


Comm.Parrison- It is precisely because Serbia has an army that Kosova needs an army. It is precisely because of your line of thought which claims that Serbia needs a strong army that Kosova needs to have its own army. If for nothing else just as a deterrent.

When Serbia decides to dissolve its army then we will not have one. It's simple. If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it. It is just another thing it has to think of when entertaining any stupid thoughts of an armed takeover. Even if it provides resistance just for a few days ,if Serbia decides to start another war, we will not be totally defenseless. Of course the goal will be to provide resistence for a longer time if Serbia attacks. There has to be a way to defend ourselves from Serbia.

Brian

pre 10 godina

Kosovo recognition is not unacceptable to most of Serbia! 63% explicitly say Kosovo is an independent nation in polls and over 90% of voters voted for Brussels supporting parties. Nikolic says a kosovos army is fine as Serbs can have a unit and he meets with jahjaga as an equal in meetings and conferences!

sj

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 11:36)
Once again a classic stupid stament. Comparing Serbia with the US. That’s why I treat you guys as a joke.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't worry sj, i stopped taking you seriously a long time ago, particularly since you told me you'd been paid 20 EURO's in 1994

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01
I know the economic situation in the US and have never denied that it is a huge issue. But when you portray the US as some third world country where everyperson is begging on the street, then I speak up.
Now most of your claims are bs and I challenge you on them as to where you get such information.
Also your idiotic assumptions that the US has NO influence anymore or your asinine assertions that because the US is being careful in how they handle the Ukraine situation means we are doing so because of being broke or just hot air. You claim to be some sort of expert on the world stage but yet you have no concept of what a World War would do to the global economy. You still think China would thrive without a market for their cheap labor. You think Russia would annihilate the US and the next day life in the rest of the world will continue as nothing happened.

I challenge you on statements you make like Ashton has said many times that the EU wants to integrate the Kosovo economy into Serbia, when you know it is a lie, everyone reading it knows it is a lie. And true to your most predictable self, instead of taking the time to prove me wrong you go on a tirade trying to shift from the subject.
I take you have accepted your new title as sj the lsos.
Why has Russia not with its soldiers on the border, marched into Ukraine already? Or why were the Russian forces in Crimea wearing uniforms without insignias?

pss

pre 10 godina

Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.

(sj, 29 April 2014 10:49)
Ok here is your chance, we all know this is your typical bull, so prove us wrong, since you say on several occasions, give us just one link to see a validation. It must be something more than your typical this was at a meeting of you and the political elite so it was never recorded or the press refused to print it.
Give the example a link we can go to or forever resign yourself to the official title "lying sac of s..."

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God

sj

pre 10 godina

well, sj, why on Earth is Mr Nikolic reacting then? Does he know something that you don't?
(Nikolle, 29 April 2014 14:44)

Of course Nikolic would raise such an issue if only to reaffirm that it never happens. The EU is in debt up to its neck trying to save its members and you think they are going to borrow more to train, equip and maintain a standing army in Kosovo???? They already have one there.

However, tell who is paying for this army? Who will continue to pay for it in the future? An army is a luxury to a place like Kosovo as it lives off EU handouts. But as you seem to see that I am wrong I await your response.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it.
(j, 30 April 2014 01:36)

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


"But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well?"
(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01)
The same way it survived so far: From international donations, on state level or personal level, i.e. people that work in the USA, Switzerland or elsewhere sending money to their poor families in Kosovo. This all, paired with billions of drug money (Kosovo because Europe's main drug hub under the Thaci regime) and money from other 'activities', I don't have to be more specific, do I?

sj

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 10:11)
This is why I do not take seriously anyhting these Albanians mention. What a supid statment“who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country“. Serbia has a larger population. It has huge tracts of arible land, water resources, minieral energy and so on. What does kosovo have except mouths to feed. Is there any wonder you think the US is still top dog..

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 29 April 2014 17:01)

Jesus Christ are you dumb. But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well? What they are going to thrive on US BS? Is that the reason the US is looking so good?

I and others have been saying for the last 6 years that the US has serious economic problems, but people like you wanted proof – “show me a link where it say that”? Well in 2008 you were only 12 trillion in debt, but by Christmas 2014 you will be 19 trillion.

Why do you think the EU wants good “neighbourly” relations? Because they want all the old Yugo republics to work as they did before the break up because the EU cannot fund them any more.

Wake up. You really are so brainwashed that if they told you to jump of a cliff you would do just that.

j

pre 10 godina

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


-- sj, don't worry about it. We're dealing with the technicalities. If it makes you feel better you can still call us a territory with an army. Watch if we give a damn about it. Choose any epithet you want. See if we care.

The point in this whole thing is not about getting approval by an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be a self-professed expert on matters of finance and justice. The point is to make the army and become a NATO member years down the road. This is the first step.

kevin dale

pre 9 godina

The main problem in this issue is the Serbian mentality, these people are corrupt and full of evil intention. These "people" attempted to murder a nation full of old people, young men and women. This sort of behaviour was last reproduced on our planet....and luckily extinguished in 1945....
The people of Kosovo do not deserve to be treated as criminals and kept from travelling out of their own country...for being victims????
The Serbians responsible should be brought to justice and the inbred evil in that country should be kept within its borders as a minimum penalty for their evil, contempt and hate for innocent people.
It is time justice was done by the EU, how can any country be guilty of defending itself against genocide, the Serbian people should never be allowed to join Europe.

Mirel from Albania

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.

BOPA

pre 10 godina

Knowing a bit history what took place we can agree Kosovo's only threat and real enemy is the state of Serbia, so why should't they have the right to defend themselves? Looks to me western Balkans will have a balance of power in the coming decades and perhaps what might only make if peaceful.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.

the truth

pre 10 godina

The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.

But if some kind of an armed force should be formed, then the Serbs have to be entitled to a reciprocal share in it, like the way it was done with the police, he stressed.

Nikolić protested against the decision by the authorities in Priština to require personal documents issued by the Kosovo administration in order to be allowed to vote.

It is unacceptable to Serbia, because it would be an a priori recognition of Kosovo's independence, he postulated.

The undertaker has no clue what he is bumbling about. Good luck Tomo.

sj

pre 10 godina

"... so there is no need to create any kind of army,..."

well, i'm sure your opinion is highly valued and will of course be taken into consideration, not.
(Nikolle, 28 April 2014 18:36)

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army."
(blue and gold, 28 April 2014 22:40)

Serbia doesn't need to have 'territorial aspirations', because legally, Kosovo is a part of Serbia under temporary UN administration.

With the same arguments, you could say: Serbia has a need to strengthen its forces as long as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority in the southern province thinks it can declare an own state on Serbian territory. Think about it.

sj

pre 10 godina

There are two ways ahead of Serbia: Kosovo or EU.
If you choose Kosovo they will lose both.
Richard Holbrooke.

The late Holbrooke has spoken very clear.
(Mirel from Albania, 28 April 2014 21:36)
The late Holbrooke was right, however, this is not 1999 but 2014 and many things have changed including geopolitical power where the United States of Wind Bags are all hot air.
Sadly most Albanians think that the EU has money trees and there is an endless supply, but thanks to the toxic mortage loans in the US and Washington’s failures in Iraq and Afghanistan and now Ukraine, Brussels is in no postion to demand anything at all. Even Ashton adminted that there would be no requirement for Serbia to recognise an indepedent Kosovo.
Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.
However, once Ukrainbe is taken, the EU will have a new master and that is whne things begin to change very quickly.

Brian

pre 10 godina

Kosovo recognition is not unacceptable to most of Serbia! 63% explicitly say Kosovo is an independent nation in polls and over 90% of voters voted for Brussels supporting parties. Nikolic says a kosovos army is fine as Serbs can have a unit and he meets with jahjaga as an equal in meetings and conferences!

blue and gold

pre 10 godina

“The southern Serbian province is not threatened by anyone, so there is no need to create any kind of army, Nikolić said, according to a release from his office.”
He answers this question by himself:
“…- recognizing the self-declared independence of Kosovo is unacceptable.”
In other words, as long as Serbia has territorial aspirations regarding Kosovo, there will be a need for Kosovo to have its own army.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"...as some violent self-proclaimed ethnic minority"

what on earth is this? how can one self-proclaim itself an ethnic minority? what other bizarre thing are you going to 'self-proclaim' next? p.s. i've always wondered why you write under 2 identities here, Questioner & Comm?

sj

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 10:11)
This is why I do not take seriously anyhting these Albanians mention. What a supid statment“who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country“. Serbia has a larger population. It has huge tracts of arible land, water resources, minieral energy and so on. What does kosovo have except mouths to feed. Is there any wonder you think the US is still top dog..

sj

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God
(Nikolle, 30 April 2014 11:36)
Once again a classic stupid stament. Comparing Serbia with the US. That’s why I treat you guys as a joke.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

While reading thise statements of Nikolic on compare them to other ones spoken on other occasions, I sometimes ask myself if he has some problem with a split personality, or does he only strictly separate the words used for international and national audience?

pss

pre 10 godina

Ashton also stated on several occasions that the EU wants Kosovo to be integrated into the Serbian economy not Eus.

(sj, 29 April 2014 10:49)
Ok here is your chance, we all know this is your typical bull, so prove us wrong, since you say on several occasions, give us just one link to see a validation. It must be something more than your typical this was at a meeting of you and the political elite so it was never recorded or the press refused to print it.
Give the example a link we can go to or forever resign yourself to the official title "lying sac of s..."

sj

pre 10 godina

(pss, 29 April 2014 17:01)

Jesus Christ are you dumb. But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well? What they are going to thrive on US BS? Is that the reason the US is looking so good?

I and others have been saying for the last 6 years that the US has serious economic problems, but people like you wanted proof – “show me a link where it say that”? Well in 2008 you were only 12 trillion in debt, but by Christmas 2014 you will be 19 trillion.

Why do you think the EU wants good “neighbourly” relations? Because they want all the old Yugo republics to work as they did before the break up because the EU cannot fund them any more.

Wake up. You really are so brainwashed that if they told you to jump of a cliff you would do just that.

j

pre 10 godina

This a classic example of Albanian thinking. Create an Army, but who will pay for this army? Who will pay for its equipment? Who will pay for a standing army in a region that has less than 2 million people? The EU? No they will not. The US? If your relying on them then youll get some old wrecks from WW2.
Truly amazing!!!!
(sj, 29 April 2014 10:53)

Don't worry about the money. Serbia is broke and has an army. If you can beg for money to maintain an army we can do it too. By the way do you have milk in Belgrade now?


Comm.Parrison- It is precisely because Serbia has an army that Kosova needs an army. It is precisely because of your line of thought which claims that Serbia needs a strong army that Kosova needs to have its own army. If for nothing else just as a deterrent.

When Serbia decides to dissolve its army then we will not have one. It's simple. If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it. It is just another thing it has to think of when entertaining any stupid thoughts of an armed takeover. Even if it provides resistance just for a few days ,if Serbia decides to start another war, we will not be totally defenseless. Of course the goal will be to provide resistence for a longer time if Serbia attacks. There has to be a way to defend ourselves from Serbia.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

who pays for Serbia's army sj? Serbia, that other piss poor country? l;et Mr Nikolic taunt those Albanians then, let him say, let them have an army that they can't afford. i mean, if what you say is true, Mr Nikolic needn't worry, but the fact that he is raising the issue suggests that he is

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"If Serbia is not threatened by anyone yet it still has an army then sure as hell it means that Kosova can have an army even if its not threatened by anyone. A Kosova army is sort of an equalizer in this equation and that is why Serbia doesn't want it.
(j, 30 April 2014 01:36)

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


"But if I am lying tell me how is Kosovo going to survive considering it has no industry and the EU will not allow people from Kosovo to look for work in the EU until maybe 2040 if they are lucky. Well?"
(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01)
The same way it survived so far: From international donations, on state level or personal level, i.e. people that work in the USA, Switzerland or elsewhere sending money to their poor families in Kosovo. This all, paired with billions of drug money (Kosovo because Europe's main drug hub under the Thaci regime) and money from other 'activities', I don't have to be more specific, do I?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

yes sj, Serbia, that other piss poor country that had its own minister a while back describe its economy as being in catastrophic shape and the country itself on the verge of bankruptcy. but don't worry sj, apparently the US is in horrible shape, about to vanish and proud Serbia can absorb all. you my friend, take delusion to levels not seen since Mohammed told people he was talking to God

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't worry sj, i stopped taking you seriously a long time ago, particularly since you told me you'd been paid 20 EURO's in 1994

sj

pre 10 godina

well, sj, why on Earth is Mr Nikolic reacting then? Does he know something that you don't?
(Nikolle, 29 April 2014 14:44)

Of course Nikolic would raise such an issue if only to reaffirm that it never happens. The EU is in debt up to its neck trying to save its members and you think they are going to borrow more to train, equip and maintain a standing army in Kosovo???? They already have one there.

However, tell who is paying for this army? Who will continue to pay for it in the future? An army is a luxury to a place like Kosovo as it lives off EU handouts. But as you seem to see that I am wrong I await your response.

pss

pre 10 godina

(sj, 30 April 2014 01:01
I know the economic situation in the US and have never denied that it is a huge issue. But when you portray the US as some third world country where everyperson is begging on the street, then I speak up.
Now most of your claims are bs and I challenge you on them as to where you get such information.
Also your idiotic assumptions that the US has NO influence anymore or your asinine assertions that because the US is being careful in how they handle the Ukraine situation means we are doing so because of being broke or just hot air. You claim to be some sort of expert on the world stage but yet you have no concept of what a World War would do to the global economy. You still think China would thrive without a market for their cheap labor. You think Russia would annihilate the US and the next day life in the rest of the world will continue as nothing happened.

I challenge you on statements you make like Ashton has said many times that the EU wants to integrate the Kosovo economy into Serbia, when you know it is a lie, everyone reading it knows it is a lie. And true to your most predictable self, instead of taking the time to prove me wrong you go on a tirade trying to shift from the subject.
I take you have accepted your new title as sj the lsos.
Why has Russia not with its soldiers on the border, marched into Ukraine already? Or why were the Russian forces in Crimea wearing uniforms without insignias?

j

pre 10 godina

A 'Kosova army' would be, first of all, against UN1244 - literally, if KFOR would take its tasks seriously, they would have the duty to 'disarm Albanian armed groups' - and usually, states have armies, not some territories.


-- sj, don't worry about it. We're dealing with the technicalities. If it makes you feel better you can still call us a territory with an army. Watch if we give a damn about it. Choose any epithet you want. See if we care.

The point in this whole thing is not about getting approval by an anonymous person on the internet claiming to be a self-professed expert on matters of finance and justice. The point is to make the army and become a NATO member years down the road. This is the first step.

kevin dale

pre 9 godina

The main problem in this issue is the Serbian mentality, these people are corrupt and full of evil intention. These "people" attempted to murder a nation full of old people, young men and women. This sort of behaviour was last reproduced on our planet....and luckily extinguished in 1945....
The people of Kosovo do not deserve to be treated as criminals and kept from travelling out of their own country...for being victims????
The Serbians responsible should be brought to justice and the inbred evil in that country should be kept within its borders as a minimum penalty for their evil, contempt and hate for innocent people.
It is time justice was done by the EU, how can any country be guilty of defending itself against genocide, the Serbian people should never be allowed to join Europe.