People's Republic declared in Ukraine's Lugansk

One blunder after another such as these military observers caught red handed claiming they “are diplomats in uniform”.
Then comes the new sanctions on Russia. What a joke to say the least. The UK’s foreign secretary stating that Russia has already lost $64 billion in investment – on the scales he is talking about this is a pittance, but if Russia was to withdraw its investment of $600 billion pounds from UK’s economy then it would make a huge mess in Whithall and a collapse in its standard of living – good bye first world, hello Albania.
But my favourite is the downgrading of Russia’s currency by Moodys. These western rating agencies gave the toxic loans in the US the AAA+ which caused the GFC. These same agencies have for several years hide the true economic status of Slovenia and Croatia because it would look bad if they were downgraded to junk bond status, all of a sudden overnight relegated Russia to near junk bond.
Now 20 years ago this would have been a big deal, but since all the money is in Asia and Asia does not pay any notice to western rating agencies after 2008, Moodys and all the others can take a flying leap off the nearest cliff. Now if Russia was to cut off the gas in the first week alone Germany would have to lay off 300 000 workers in the first week then 400 000 and so on until some 9 or 10 million were unemployed leading to a depression not seen since the 1920s and we do recall how that went nicely.

Sj

It’s not the Russian way to count money when it comes to our dignity and security. We still are ashamed of every friend betrayed and every insult not paid back. And the 78 days of the bombing are mentioned most often. In Europe they give very small part of the events around and inside Ukraine. To say nothing that they lie all the time. For instance today 5000 maidanized football fans attacked the antifas in Kharkov and the mayor of this 2 million city has been wounded heavily. The western mass media offer it as two separate events.

No doubt we are going to have the upper hand in Ukraine. Things to discuss are only the price we’ll have to pay and the way Russia will reach the goal. In any case the dynamics of the detective story won’t be lost. The events will be very pressed in time. Everybody knows that Russia will have hostile regime in Kiev only until the moment is good. Don’t pay attention to the US agony. For the first time in the latest history ( though not that direct as Nuland ) they are told that we don’t care much about what they think or do.

Up to now Russia is retreating keeping up our backfire potential. Just the same strategy Russia used against Napoleon. Only 2 out of 5 Russian armies were close enough and they retreated till Borodino and even left Moscow. Yet even today the French instead of words NIGHTMARE and CATASTROPHE they whisper BEREZINA. But don’t you worry coz in the end in America the synonymous of BEREZINA it will be UKRAINE.

So now we have a Donetsk, a Kharkov and now a Lugansk Parliamentary Republic. Next will be an Odessa, then a Kherson, then a Mykolaiv, then a Dnipropetrovsk and finally a Zaporizhia People's Republic and so splits the Southeastern Ukraine from the country, unless the government federalizes the country NOW! There really is no other way out of this situation. I don't understand why the new authorities in Kiev don't see reason. It works just fine for Russia and thanks to that, they have managed to largely avoid massive ethnic tensions and maintain some sense of Russian unity, even though many of those people in the autonomous republics are not Russians (with the exception of the Caucasus, but still, it's A LOT more stable than when that idiot Yeltsin was in power), while Ukraine, a mostly homogeneous nation (with the exception of the Russian minority) can't even find a common path between the Ukrainians themselves!

They are not a strongly unified nation like Poland, and should not model themselves after us. They are also not the Baltics, where there is an alien Russian minority, so making Ukrainian the only language and forcing millions of Russians into a geopolitical direction unsuitable for them WILL NOT WORK! That land was never "Ukrainian" anyway, unlike the Baltics, in which the Russian minority are clearly immigrants. Ukrainian Russians are native and should be treated as such.

Otherwise, there will be more of these "Republics". Kiev are doing it to themselves.

Russia can retreat as far as she wants, our missiles can reach anywhere you may hide. Tomahawk and Cruise are the names of two missiles that will give you nightmares for as long as you live.
(NATO Missile Launcher, 29 April 2014 10:10)
When your ready please launch them – another Albanian windbag. Always NATO this or NATO that, but never ’we. Like all good cowards they like to hide first behind first the Turkish skirst now US.

Missile Launcher

OTAN-NATO is a formless cloud and Russia does not need to bomb all the member nations into the ashes. We only need to neutralize the evil. After that all the rest will receive a chance to get up from their knees. We are not that bloodthirsty as you are told. For your better understanding I can tell you something. Last week Obama boy said that their army was stronger than the Russian one and in general I agree. But in details things look a bit different. Say the US control 29% of the world armament market while Russia has only 27%. ( Germany -7% , France -5% ect.) It means that despite the disproportion of the influence the US still enjoy Russian arms are quite competitive.

Especially when it comes to surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles. Russian antimissiles have no competition at all. So every state compelled to buy the Patriots dreams of S-300 to say nothing of the S-400 (Iskander) or S-500. The last two are universal ones because they can both hit down air targets and deliver charges to land aims. Besides they can deliver nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. What is most interesting for you S-400 and S-500 need quite little modernization to become middle range missiles with a reach of 1500 km. Russia does not modernize them because of the limitations for such deployments.

to be continued

Missile Launcher

The only problem with the Tomahawks may be if they are launched in big quantities. Say 300 units. Then not all of them will be hit down on the heads of the Europeans. As you know Tomahawks are middle range cruise missiles that cannot be launched from the US soil. If you mean Russia of course.


Also if you insist I can also tell you why Russia is so persuasive in developing the new Bulava rockets launched both from the submarines or ground platforms. I’ll tell you what makes these missiles with 10 nuke warheads invincible. Be sure that only Russia’s goodwill but in no case the US antimissiles lets you sleep well.

By the way to destroy the USA Russia does not need to hit the US soil. Several 50-megatonn thermo-charges activated 200 miles away from the mainland in the Pacific and the Atlantic will do the job. Otherwise one can strike the Yellowstone … Here we came too close to the apocalypses scenarios which I hate to even talk about.

Peter

“I don't understand why the new authorities in Kiev don't see reason.”

Please stop any attempts to find some reason in what they say or do. First because the country is in an agony. This summer Gazprom will put Ukraine and the EU on their knees. So the Kiev gang is at a loss and the do not know how to survive in the fast worsening situation. Second thing is that the country is ruled from overseas in every small detail. So for some understanding take into consideration only the American interests. They too are at a loss but at least they have strategic goals they follow worldwide as orients.

One of the goals is to create longtime problems for the coming Russians. Now if you see how the US is worried about the military strength Russia is demonstrating you will see why Yats and the gang kill the remaining branches of their economy. It’s like using napalm in Viet Nam. In both cases the Yankees knew that they are to abandon this country. So it was a part of their vendetta. This is why they first stroke the military complex tied with Russia.

What is really good the fairy tale of the Ukrainian nation is fast vanishing. The whole world saw that the Ukrainians are too different to live in one country and that here there are millions of Russians ready to die for their dignity. Most important is that greater part of the Ukrainians and Rosins associate themselves rather with mother Russia than with Europe.

Reader

As a reader you can easily find it in the web. The idea belongs to Andrey Sakharov. He developed it first against our historical rival the UK. And as far as I can judge it still remains the main tool to destroy this source of problems. According to Sakharov we need only one thermonuclear charge of 50 megaton. Later he offered a detailed plan concerning the US. I do not know the details but definitely it should be several such bombs exploded from both sides. Hopefully the plan will never be implemented and the US domination will be destroyed in some other way.

http://video.yandex.ru/users/mr-steelsnake/view/1/

"By the way to destroy the USA Russia does not need to hit the US soil. Several 50-megatonn thermo-charges activated 200 miles away from the mainland in the Pacific and the Atlantic will do the job. Otherwise one can strike the Yellowstone … Here we came too close to the apocalypses scenarios which I hate to even talk about."
(rote, 29 April 2014 12:04)

Haha, it looks like you came directly out of the movie "Dr. Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb". Great movie. Very funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI

sj writes: "UK’s economy then it would make a huge mess in Whithall and a collapse in its standard of living – good bye first world, hello Albania".

I think that many commentators on B92 may not understand your deragotory reference to an Albanian economy. These dillusilon individuals believe that an Albanian economy is a financial utopia with plans to spread it over Kosovo and beyond.

Up to now Russia is retreating keeping up our backfire potential. Just the same strategy Russia used against Napoleon. Only 2 out of 5 Russian armies were close enough and they retreated till Borodino and even left Moscow. Yet even today the French instead of words NIGHTMARE and CATASTROPHE they whisper BEREZINA. But don’t you worry coz in the end in America the synonymous of BEREZINA it will be UKRAINE.
(rote, 28 April 2014 19:12)


Rote,

Russia can retreat as far as she wants, our missiles can reach anywhere you may hide. Tomahawk and Cruise are the names of two missiles that will give you nightmares for as long as you live.

One blunder after another such as these military observers caught red handed claiming they “are diplomats in uniform”.
Then comes the new sanctions on Russia. What a joke to say the least. The UK’s foreign secretary stating that Russia has already lost $64 billion in investment – on the scales he is talking about this is a pittance, but if Russia was to withdraw its investment of $600 billion pounds from UK’s economy then it would make a huge mess in Whithall and a collapse in its standard of living – good bye first world, hello Albania.
But my favourite is the downgrading of Russia’s currency by Moodys. These western rating agencies gave the toxic loans in the US the AAA+ which caused the GFC. These same agencies have for several years hide the true economic status of Slovenia and Croatia because it would look bad if they were downgraded to junk bond status, all of a sudden overnight relegated Russia to near junk bond.
Now 20 years ago this would have been a big deal, but since all the money is in Asia and Asia does not pay any notice to western rating agencies after 2008, Moodys and all the others can take a flying leap off the nearest cliff. Now if Russia was to cut off the gas in the first week alone Germany would have to lay off 300 000 workers in the first week then 400 000 and so on until some 9 or 10 million were unemployed leading to a depression not seen since the 1920s and we do recall how that went nicely.

Sj

It’s not the Russian way to count money when it comes to our dignity and security. We still are ashamed of every friend betrayed and every insult not paid back. And the 78 days of the bombing are mentioned most often. In Europe they give very small part of the events around and inside Ukraine. To say nothing that they lie all the time. For instance today 5000 maidanized football fans attacked the antifas in Kharkov and the mayor of this 2 million city has been wounded heavily. The western mass media offer it as two separate events.

No doubt we are going to have the upper hand in Ukraine. Things to discuss are only the price we’ll have to pay and the way Russia will reach the goal. In any case the dynamics of the detective story won’t be lost. The events will be very pressed in time. Everybody knows that Russia will have hostile regime in Kiev only until the moment is good. Don’t pay attention to the US agony. For the first time in the latest history ( though not that direct as Nuland ) they are told that we don’t care much about what they think or do.

Up to now Russia is retreating keeping up our backfire potential. Just the same strategy Russia used against Napoleon. Only 2 out of 5 Russian armies were close enough and they retreated till Borodino and even left Moscow. Yet even today the French instead of words NIGHTMARE and CATASTROPHE they whisper BEREZINA. But don’t you worry coz in the end in America the synonymous of BEREZINA it will be UKRAINE.

So now we have a Donetsk, a Kharkov and now a Lugansk Parliamentary Republic. Next will be an Odessa, then a Kherson, then a Mykolaiv, then a Dnipropetrovsk and finally a Zaporizhia People's Republic and so splits the Southeastern Ukraine from the country, unless the government federalizes the country NOW! There really is no other way out of this situation. I don't understand why the new authorities in Kiev don't see reason. It works just fine for Russia and thanks to that, they have managed to largely avoid massive ethnic tensions and maintain some sense of Russian unity, even though many of those people in the autonomous republics are not Russians (with the exception of the Caucasus, but still, it's A LOT more stable than when that idiot Yeltsin was in power), while Ukraine, a mostly homogeneous nation (with the exception of the Russian minority) can't even find a common path between the Ukrainians themselves!

They are not a strongly unified nation like Poland, and should not model themselves after us. They are also not the Baltics, where there is an alien Russian minority, so making Ukrainian the only language and forcing millions of Russians into a geopolitical direction unsuitable for them WILL NOT WORK! That land was never "Ukrainian" anyway, unlike the Baltics, in which the Russian minority are clearly immigrants. Ukrainian Russians are native and should be treated as such.

Otherwise, there will be more of these "Republics". Kiev are doing it to themselves.

Up to now Russia is retreating keeping up our backfire potential. Just the same strategy Russia used against Napoleon. Only 2 out of 5 Russian armies were close enough and they retreated till Borodino and even left Moscow. Yet even today the French instead of words NIGHTMARE and CATASTROPHE they whisper BEREZINA. But don’t you worry coz in the end in America the synonymous of BEREZINA it will be UKRAINE.
(rote, 28 April 2014 19:12)


Rote,

Russia can retreat as far as she wants, our missiles can reach anywhere you may hide. Tomahawk and Cruise are the names of two missiles that will give you nightmares for as long as you live.

"By the way to destroy the USA Russia does not need to hit the US soil. Several 50-megatonn thermo-charges activated 200 miles away from the mainland in the Pacific and the Atlantic will do the job. Otherwise one can strike the Yellowstone … Here we came too close to the apocalypses scenarios which I hate to even talk about."
(rote, 29 April 2014 12:04)

Haha, it looks like you came directly out of the movie "Dr. Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb". Great movie. Very funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI

Reader

As a reader you can easily find it in the web. The idea belongs to Andrey Sakharov. He developed it first against our historical rival the UK. And as far as I can judge it still remains the main tool to destroy this source of problems. According to Sakharov we need only one thermonuclear charge of 50 megaton. Later he offered a detailed plan concerning the US. I do not know the details but definitely it should be several such bombs exploded from both sides. Hopefully the plan will never be implemented and the US domination will be destroyed in some other way.

http://video.yandex.ru/users/mr-steelsnake/view/1/

sj writes: "UK’s economy then it would make a huge mess in Whithall and a collapse in its standard of living – good bye first world, hello Albania".

I think that many commentators on B92 may not understand your deragotory reference to an Albanian economy. These dillusilon individuals believe that an Albanian economy is a financial utopia with plans to spread it over Kosovo and beyond.

Missile Launcher

OTAN-NATO is a formless cloud and Russia does not need to bomb all the member nations into the ashes. We only need to neutralize the evil. After that all the rest will receive a chance to get up from their knees. We are not that bloodthirsty as you are told. For your better understanding I can tell you something. Last week Obama boy said that their army was stronger than the Russian one and in general I agree. But in details things look a bit different. Say the US control 29% of the world armament market while Russia has only 27%. ( Germany -7% , France -5% ect.) It means that despite the disproportion of the influence the US still enjoy Russian arms are quite competitive.

Especially when it comes to surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles. Russian antimissiles have no competition at all. So every state compelled to buy the Patriots dreams of S-300 to say nothing of the S-400 (Iskander) or S-500. The last two are universal ones because they can both hit down air targets and deliver charges to land aims. Besides they can deliver nuclear and thermonuclear weapons. What is most interesting for you S-400 and S-500 need quite little modernization to become middle range missiles with a reach of 1500 km. Russia does not modernize them because of the limitations for such deployments.

to be continued

Missile Launcher

The only problem with the Tomahawks may be if they are launched in big quantities. Say 300 units. Then not all of them will be hit down on the heads of the Europeans. As you know Tomahawks are middle range cruise missiles that cannot be launched from the US soil. If you mean Russia of course.


Also if you insist I can also tell you why Russia is so persuasive in developing the new Bulava rockets launched both from the submarines or ground platforms. I’ll tell you what makes these missiles with 10 nuke warheads invincible. Be sure that only Russia’s goodwill but in no case the US antimissiles lets you sleep well.

By the way to destroy the USA Russia does not need to hit the US soil. Several 50-megatonn thermo-charges activated 200 miles away from the mainland in the Pacific and the Atlantic will do the job. Otherwise one can strike the Yellowstone … Here we came too close to the apocalypses scenarios which I hate to even talk about.

Peter

“I don't understand why the new authorities in Kiev don't see reason.”

Please stop any attempts to find some reason in what they say or do. First because the country is in an agony. This summer Gazprom will put Ukraine and the EU on their knees. So the Kiev gang is at a loss and the do not know how to survive in the fast worsening situation. Second thing is that the country is ruled from overseas in every small detail. So for some understanding take into consideration only the American interests. They too are at a loss but at least they have strategic goals they follow worldwide as orients.

One of the goals is to create longtime problems for the coming Russians. Now if you see how the US is worried about the military strength Russia is demonstrating you will see why Yats and the gang kill the remaining branches of their economy. It’s like using napalm in Viet Nam. In both cases the Yankees knew that they are to abandon this country. So it was a part of their vendetta. This is why they first stroke the military complex tied with Russia.

What is really good the fairy tale of the Ukrainian nation is fast vanishing. The whole world saw that the Ukrainians are too different to live in one country and that here there are millions of Russians ready to die for their dignity. Most important is that greater part of the Ukrainians and Rosins associate themselves rather with mother Russia than with Europe.

Russia can retreat as far as she wants, our missiles can reach anywhere you may hide. Tomahawk and Cruise are the names of two missiles that will give you nightmares for as long as you live.
(NATO Missile Launcher, 29 April 2014 10:10)
When your ready please launch them – another Albanian windbag. Always NATO this or NATO that, but never ’we. Like all good cowards they like to hide first behind first the Turkish skirst now US.