Serbia's legal team: No retroactive liability

Legal arguments will always lead you into a brick wall since this tribunal makes up its rules on the go.

Lenard's command of the English language is as poor as his grasp of recent history. The whole war situation in ex-YU was initiated by Croatia that is beyond dispute. Only apologists for US and EU foriegn policy would have you believe otherwise. You Lenny need to read ex-CIA.official Robert Baer's FACTS about the YU wars and who prosecuted them. You obviously have a pathological hatred of Serbia and Serbians and we can live with that because we don't like racists and xenophobes like you either. As for the great oil bonanza that's great news now that you are in the good old EU we can return to reclaim our lands and property and will have the benefit of protection from the very same legal institutions that you are so convinced have convicted the right people. The guilty are regrettably free as their previous Ustashe forefathers were after WW2 but if they don't pay in this life they will in the next.Thing is about the truth it's always out there if you try to find it. Lenny start looking .

Sadistic Serb killers portraying themselves as the righteous. Lying to the world & lying to the themselves. Serbia has become a ses pit of war veterans who haven't received their pensions because the Serbian government has refused to recognize their service in the 90's wars all because it would then show how Serbia proper entered the aggression from day one. You will continue to be hounded for the next 100 years by your neighbors for what you have done to them. Not only will Serbia be forced by the international court to pay compensation for the destruction they caused in the other republics but also being vetoed for entry into the E.U. will kill them. Thousands of Serbs with your retarded Macedonian brothers continue to seek asylum in Germany all because of Slobo's policies that still haunt the Serbs today. I guarantee the Servs will lose at the Hague. The Croats have always outsmarted the Serbs.

You will continue to be hounded for the next 100 years by your neighbors for what you have done to them.

If thats the case you croats will be haunted for the next million years considering what you have done to serbs. Jasenovac, Jadovno, ring a bell?

WOW great defense, not we did not do these crimes but because of a technicality you cannot judge us for these crimes. Same people, same govt officials, same army but different name at the time.

Just look who are in jails all over Europe for war crimes SERBS being 96% of all the war criminals of ex Yugo. Serbs are so patheticaly ridiculos allways try to hide behind Yugoslavia. Peek-A-Boo do you see any war criminal agressor Serbia behind Serboslavia. Where do Serbs find all those losers for their loser legal team it must be a natural inbred gift. Their is good news deep ocean survey ships have found huge oil deposits in Croatian waters. 747 million tonnes of oil and Croatia uses only 3 million tonnes a year. That is only in the southern half of Croatian Adriatic Sea wait untill they do the northern half. Not even mentioning the huge natural gas deposits also found. God blessed us Croatians greatly. Poor incourigible Serbia's goose is cooked fore sure now.

If thats the case you croats will be haunted for the next million years considering what you have done to serbs. Jasenovac, Jadovno, ring a bell?
(Daniel, 12 March 2014 15:05) Daniel it was terible but in no way do Croatians condone the crime. If any one you should be barking at is Italy and Germany. Who instaled in a coup the criminal band of 160 Ustasi fascist that Musolini was hiding in Italy. Because the Croatian democraticaly elected goverment refused to coaperate with the Nazis. Even at their hight only 15,000 belong to the Ustasi criminal party. Croatians made the bulk of the partisan forces of the 80 divisions 37 were Croatians. When Croatians made 25% of Yugoslavia population. The leader of the partisans Tito Croatian fighting even the murdering Serbian chetnik fascist. That the west turnd against and even the despot Royal Serbian goverment hiding in London turned against them.

HA, HA, HA. Lenard, where do you get your statistics? The Ustasha handbook of historical revisionism?

Answer please Lenard: Why did Hitler put a reward on Mihailovich's head if he was a Nazi collaborator?

Why did Mihailovich and his Chetniks save over 500 downed US airmen if they were Nazi collaborators?

Why did Hitler bomb Belgrade if Serbs were collaborators? Zagreb remained unscathed.

Dig deep into your father's or grandfather's Ustasha book of propaganda and give us all another good laugh. Happy reaearching! LOL

Come on Len there's more than 15000 at a Thompson concert. Would seem to suggest there is far more widespread support for Ustashi thinking purely on statistical probability than you appear ready to admit. You again singularly failed to apologise for that WW2 genocide and the more recent let's call it anti-Serbian pogrom but no worry didn't think you'd have the decency. And onto the more alarming news ........ you have a clone.well that would be more worrying were it human but as far as I'm aware they've only managed to clone sheep........Hmmmm sounds about right!!

Lenard, have you no shame? Countless times on this board you have denied and minimized Ustasha crimes. And now you blame any wrongdoing by the Ustasha murderers on the Germans and Italians. It's never the fault of the Croatians, is it Lenard? You are pathetic!

Lenard, let me remind you of the parade the Croatian people held for Hitler's Nazis as they marched into Zagreb in 1941. If the majority of the Croatian population were against the Nazis and Ustasha as you claim, why then wasn't there and uprising in Croatia as there was in Serbia? Why did Hitler's bombs only fall on Belgrade and not on Zagreb?

And then you claim that the majority of Croats were Partizans as if that is something to be proud of. Let's see, you guys were either Nazis or communists. That's a legacy to be proud of. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of Croats were Nazi supporters when the war began. When it was inevitable that the Nazis and their Ustasha supporters would lose the war, thousands of Croat Ustasha deserted and fled to the Partizans in true Croatian form. Just another proud chapter in Croatian military history. A history that Lenny continues to rewrite. LOL

Daniel, 12 March 2014 15:05) Daniel it was terible but in no way do Croatians condone the crime.

I guess thats why hundreds of thousands of you go to Cavoglave every year to celebrate the ustase along with thompson. And there were very few croats in the partizans, more than 70%were serbs.
In 1941 and 1942, the majority of Partisans in Croatia were Serbs, but by October 1943 the majority were Croats. This change was partly due to the decision of a key Croatian Peasant Party member, Božidar Magovac, to join the Partisans in June 1943, and partly due to the surrender of Italy.[70]

According to Goldstein, among Croatian partisans at the end of 1941 there were approximately 77% Serbs and 21.5% Croats and others as well as unknown nationalities. The percentage of Croats in the partisan troops had increased to 32% by August 1942, which rose to 34% by September 1943. After the capitulation of Italy, it continued to increase rapidly and at the end of 1944 there were 60.4% Croats, 28.6% Serbs and 11% of other unknown nationalities in Croatian partisan units.[71]
Of course when they were losing they ran over to the winning side with their tail between their legs. Typical brave croats. 34 divisions my ass.

Poor incourigible Serbia's goose is cooked fore sure now.
(Lenard, 12 March 2014 10:25)

Poor Lenard,
You are a confused Serb. You need to sit back and think about who you really are...

When it was inevitable that the Nazis and their Ustasha supporters would lose the war, thousands of Croat Ustasha deserted and fled to the Partizans in true Croatian form. Just another proud chapter in Croatian military history. A history that Lenny continues to rewrite. LOL
(njegos, 13 March 2014 03:02) njegos you have to stop reading fascist chetnik fairy tales. It was the Serbs that joind in huge numbers in late part of the war. 1941-23,000 1942-8,000 1943-13,000 late 1943-22,000 late 1944-204,000 then agaian Serbs do like their fairy tales and make believe fantasys.

(Daniel, 14 March 2014 00:25)

False. According to Wikipedia, not some Serbian propaganda textbook:

Majority Croats were with the Peasant Party who were anti Nazi. Most joined the partisans as the Peasant Party pushed for the Partisans by 1943. Just because they weren't right away in 1941 doesn't mean they were automatically with the Ustase. Also keep in mind, the Ustase were in power until 1945 meaning that at the height most Croats were against them. but that doesn't go in your favor does it. I noticed Serbs always like to assume the worst of Croats. Helps them justify their brutalities during the 90's I guess.

Croatian Partisans were integral to overall Yugoslav Partisans; by the end of 1943 Croatia proper, with 24% of the Yugoslav population, provided more Partisans than Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Macedonia combined which collectively accounted for 59% of the Yugoslav population.[32] The Croatian partisans were unique in that they had the highest numbers of local Jews in their ranks of any other European resistance, and in early 1943 they took steps to establish ZAVNOH (National Anti-Fascist Council of the People's Liberation of Croatia) to act as a parliamentary body for all of Croatia – the only one of its kind in occupied Europe.

Should I also mention how the Chetniks teamed up with the the Ustase to fight the Partisans with the deal that they would exchange captured Serbs and Croats?

Hey Jack34 - Do you even realize what you're typing? You're bragging about Croats being communists! The other part of the Croatian legacy is Ustasha Nazis. My suggestion to you is to just shut up and try not to bring any attention to your shameful past. The Partizans were brutal in the atrocities they committed. They slaughtered anyone indiscriminately that didn't fall in line with their communist ideology. Do a little research on the Bleiburg massacre where the Partizans killed thousands of Croatian Ustasha after they had surrendered.

And in case you forgot, Tito created the federal state of Yugoslavia. The very entity that the Croats undermined and worked to destroy from day one.

Now get out of here Jack and do a little research before coming back and embarrassing yourself again with uneducated comments.

And one more thing, you quote Wikipedia like it is the gospel. Anyone knows that a 3rd grade student can amend anything on Wikipedia. LOL

Just look who are in jails all over Europe for war crimes SERBS being 96% of all the war criminals of ex Yugo. Serbs are so patheticaly ridiculos allways try to hide behind Yugoslavia. Peek-A-Boo do you see any war criminal agressor Serbia behind Serboslavia. Where do Serbs find all those losers for their loser legal team it must be a natural inbred gift. Their is good news deep ocean survey ships have found huge oil deposits in Croatian waters. 747 million tonnes of oil and Croatia uses only 3 million tonnes a year. That is only in the southern half of Croatian Adriatic Sea wait untill they do the northern half. Not even mentioning the huge natural gas deposits also found. God blessed us Croatians greatly. Poor incourigible Serbia's goose is cooked fore sure now.

Sadistic Serb killers portraying themselves as the righteous. Lying to the world & lying to the themselves. Serbia has become a ses pit of war veterans who haven't received their pensions because the Serbian government has refused to recognize their service in the 90's wars all because it would then show how Serbia proper entered the aggression from day one. You will continue to be hounded for the next 100 years by your neighbors for what you have done to them. Not only will Serbia be forced by the international court to pay compensation for the destruction they caused in the other republics but also being vetoed for entry into the E.U. will kill them. Thousands of Serbs with your retarded Macedonian brothers continue to seek asylum in Germany all because of Slobo's policies that still haunt the Serbs today. I guarantee the Servs will lose at the Hague. The Croats have always outsmarted the Serbs.

Lenard's command of the English language is as poor as his grasp of recent history. The whole war situation in ex-YU was initiated by Croatia that is beyond dispute. Only apologists for US and EU foriegn policy would have you believe otherwise. You Lenny need to read ex-CIA.official Robert Baer's FACTS about the YU wars and who prosecuted them. You obviously have a pathological hatred of Serbia and Serbians and we can live with that because we don't like racists and xenophobes like you either. As for the great oil bonanza that's great news now that you are in the good old EU we can return to reclaim our lands and property and will have the benefit of protection from the very same legal institutions that you are so convinced have convicted the right people. The guilty are regrettably free as their previous Ustashe forefathers were after WW2 but if they don't pay in this life they will in the next.Thing is about the truth it's always out there if you try to find it. Lenny start looking .

You will continue to be hounded for the next 100 years by your neighbors for what you have done to them.

If thats the case you croats will be haunted for the next million years considering what you have done to serbs. Jasenovac, Jadovno, ring a bell?

If thats the case you croats will be haunted for the next million years considering what you have done to serbs. Jasenovac, Jadovno, ring a bell?
(Daniel, 12 March 2014 15:05) Daniel it was terible but in no way do Croatians condone the crime. If any one you should be barking at is Italy and Germany. Who instaled in a coup the criminal band of 160 Ustasi fascist that Musolini was hiding in Italy. Because the Croatian democraticaly elected goverment refused to coaperate with the Nazis. Even at their hight only 15,000 belong to the Ustasi criminal party. Croatians made the bulk of the partisan forces of the 80 divisions 37 were Croatians. When Croatians made 25% of Yugoslavia population. The leader of the partisans Tito Croatian fighting even the murdering Serbian chetnik fascist. That the west turnd against and even the despot Royal Serbian goverment hiding in London turned against them.

WOW great defense, not we did not do these crimes but because of a technicality you cannot judge us for these crimes. Same people, same govt officials, same army but different name at the time.

Lenard, have you no shame? Countless times on this board you have denied and minimized Ustasha crimes. And now you blame any wrongdoing by the Ustasha murderers on the Germans and Italians. It's never the fault of the Croatians, is it Lenard? You are pathetic!

Lenard, let me remind you of the parade the Croatian people held for Hitler's Nazis as they marched into Zagreb in 1941. If the majority of the Croatian population were against the Nazis and Ustasha as you claim, why then wasn't there and uprising in Croatia as there was in Serbia? Why did Hitler's bombs only fall on Belgrade and not on Zagreb?

And then you claim that the majority of Croats were Partizans as if that is something to be proud of. Let's see, you guys were either Nazis or communists. That's a legacy to be proud of. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of Croats were Nazi supporters when the war began. When it was inevitable that the Nazis and their Ustasha supporters would lose the war, thousands of Croat Ustasha deserted and fled to the Partizans in true Croatian form. Just another proud chapter in Croatian military history. A history that Lenny continues to rewrite. LOL

HA, HA, HA. Lenard, where do you get your statistics? The Ustasha handbook of historical revisionism?

Answer please Lenard: Why did Hitler put a reward on Mihailovich's head if he was a Nazi collaborator?

Why did Mihailovich and his Chetniks save over 500 downed US airmen if they were Nazi collaborators?

Why did Hitler bomb Belgrade if Serbs were collaborators? Zagreb remained unscathed.

Dig deep into your father's or grandfather's Ustasha book of propaganda and give us all another good laugh. Happy reaearching! LOL

Daniel, 12 March 2014 15:05) Daniel it was terible but in no way do Croatians condone the crime.

I guess thats why hundreds of thousands of you go to Cavoglave every year to celebrate the ustase along with thompson. And there were very few croats in the partizans, more than 70%were serbs.
In 1941 and 1942, the majority of Partisans in Croatia were Serbs, but by October 1943 the majority were Croats. This change was partly due to the decision of a key Croatian Peasant Party member, Božidar Magovac, to join the Partisans in June 1943, and partly due to the surrender of Italy.[70]

According to Goldstein, among Croatian partisans at the end of 1941 there were approximately 77% Serbs and 21.5% Croats and others as well as unknown nationalities. The percentage of Croats in the partisan troops had increased to 32% by August 1942, which rose to 34% by September 1943. After the capitulation of Italy, it continued to increase rapidly and at the end of 1944 there were 60.4% Croats, 28.6% Serbs and 11% of other unknown nationalities in Croatian partisan units.[71]
Of course when they were losing they ran over to the winning side with their tail between their legs. Typical brave croats. 34 divisions my ass.

When it was inevitable that the Nazis and their Ustasha supporters would lose the war, thousands of Croat Ustasha deserted and fled to the Partizans in true Croatian form. Just another proud chapter in Croatian military history. A history that Lenny continues to rewrite. LOL
(njegos, 13 March 2014 03:02) njegos you have to stop reading fascist chetnik fairy tales. It was the Serbs that joind in huge numbers in late part of the war. 1941-23,000 1942-8,000 1943-13,000 late 1943-22,000 late 1944-204,000 then agaian Serbs do like their fairy tales and make believe fantasys.

Legal arguments will always lead you into a brick wall since this tribunal makes up its rules on the go.

Come on Len there's more than 15000 at a Thompson concert. Would seem to suggest there is far more widespread support for Ustashi thinking purely on statistical probability than you appear ready to admit. You again singularly failed to apologise for that WW2 genocide and the more recent let's call it anti-Serbian pogrom but no worry didn't think you'd have the decency. And onto the more alarming news ........ you have a clone.well that would be more worrying were it human but as far as I'm aware they've only managed to clone sheep........Hmmmm sounds about right!!

(Daniel, 14 March 2014 00:25)

False. According to Wikipedia, not some Serbian propaganda textbook:

Majority Croats were with the Peasant Party who were anti Nazi. Most joined the partisans as the Peasant Party pushed for the Partisans by 1943. Just because they weren't right away in 1941 doesn't mean they were automatically with the Ustase. Also keep in mind, the Ustase were in power until 1945 meaning that at the height most Croats were against them. but that doesn't go in your favor does it. I noticed Serbs always like to assume the worst of Croats. Helps them justify their brutalities during the 90's I guess.

Croatian Partisans were integral to overall Yugoslav Partisans; by the end of 1943 Croatia proper, with 24% of the Yugoslav population, provided more Partisans than Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Macedonia combined which collectively accounted for 59% of the Yugoslav population.[32] The Croatian partisans were unique in that they had the highest numbers of local Jews in their ranks of any other European resistance, and in early 1943 they took steps to establish ZAVNOH (National Anti-Fascist Council of the People's Liberation of Croatia) to act as a parliamentary body for all of Croatia – the only one of its kind in occupied Europe.

Should I also mention how the Chetniks teamed up with the the Ustase to fight the Partisans with the deal that they would exchange captured Serbs and Croats?

Poor incourigible Serbia's goose is cooked fore sure now.
(Lenard, 12 March 2014 10:25)

Poor Lenard,
You are a confused Serb. You need to sit back and think about who you really are...

Hey Jack34 - Do you even realize what you're typing? You're bragging about Croats being communists! The other part of the Croatian legacy is Ustasha Nazis. My suggestion to you is to just shut up and try not to bring any attention to your shameful past. The Partizans were brutal in the atrocities they committed. They slaughtered anyone indiscriminately that didn't fall in line with their communist ideology. Do a little research on the Bleiburg massacre where the Partizans killed thousands of Croatian Ustasha after they had surrendered.

And in case you forgot, Tito created the federal state of Yugoslavia. The very entity that the Croats undermined and worked to destroy from day one.

Now get out of here Jack and do a little research before coming back and embarrassing yourself again with uneducated comments.

And one more thing, you quote Wikipedia like it is the gospel. Anyone knows that a 3rd grade student can amend anything on Wikipedia. LOL