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Friday, 25.10.2013.

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Vučić says he will go to Kosovo along with Vulin

Aleksandar Vučić has "promised" a group of Serbs from Kosovo in Belgrade that he would visit the southern province ahead of the local elections there.

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icj1

pre 10 godina

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece'
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

of course, as it is not part of Serbia if you accept the 'declaration of independece'...
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which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

yes, in accordance with international law... So what's the problem ?
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and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Of course, it was not mutually agreed, but was still in accordance with international law
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mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Unfortunately international law goes with the English version of UN1244, not the Serbian one and the former does not require a "mutually agreed permanent solution". But, since I don't speak Serbian, I trust you that the Serbian version might very well state that.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia
======================================
What do you think the meaning of "mutually agreed" means?

a New Day

pre 10 godina

be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)
Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia. It mentions a political process to determine the final status in accordance with the Rambouillet accords, which says that after 3 years an international group would be formed to determine the final status.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!"
(EA, 26 October 2013 23:34)

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece' which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state, and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

That's only a battle after the fight is over and nobody really cares!
They've sold out Kosovo for a plate of lentils, and are trying to save face by fighting for peanuts for to convince Serbians to vote against their own interests. Pure show-biz!
If you love your homeland, don't vote during Kosova elections.
It's a simple as that!

a New Day

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....
(EU Dude, 26 October 2013 00:29
And why do you think that the EP will remain silent?? Could it be because they know that would be the standard practice in their own countries, that anyone entering illegally would be subject to arrest? Which would show that the Albanians are more European than the Serbians, as I doubt you would get any of the EU countries to admit that they would send a minister of their govt into a country without proper papers.
It matters not if you think of Kosovo as a Republic or UN protectorate neither is subject to Serbian laws and the Serbian govt must abide by the laws governing Kosovo. The only argument Serbia could put forth to the international community would be if and only if either UNMIK or EULEX were to grant permission and you know there is zero chance of that happening, and then support would fall along recognition lines.
I believe they will attempt it knowing that they will be turned back at the border, as they need more stunts to argue the low turnout in the elections in the north are due to Pristina and not a rejection of Belgrade.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"He once again criticized Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan's statement made in Prizren this week that "Kosovo is Turkey and Turkey Kosovo."

Mullah Erdogan likes to meddle in other countries (or pseudo-countries), not only in the Balkans. This islamist is still thinking Turkey is the new Osman empire. So not surprising he's getting along well with Albanian extremists who still dream of a greater... oops, I mean 'natural' Albania.

bobby

pre 10 godina

The problems that Serbs have in Kosovo is made by politicians from Beograde and only them.Vucic and Docic sold Kosovo serbs which no other country has ever done. Yes go to Kosovo and ask serbs to forgive you for all the LIES you told them and the whole of Serbia.KPS should do us a big favor and lock you up, the longer you stay locked up, the better for us and rest of Serbia.Lock you up and throw the key away.

EA

pre 10 godina

Serbia is trying to play cat and mouse when it comes to Kosovo....let's not talk about its sincerity when it comes to its latest actions. Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!

Nikolina

pre 10 godina

Serbian people deserve to meet with Vulin and Vucic and I hope they will be connected soon. It's not diplomatical what Turkish PM said, but Vucic attitude will show that Serbia is not for humiliation.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Vucic and Vulin will attempt to enter Kosova through the forest dressed as old Serbian women for Halloween. They better remember to bring a change of underwear.

the truth

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see
(FusRoDah, 25 October 2013 21:16)

Nobody is stopping Vucic, but Vulin aka MIB is not allowed. Dacic came and followed the protocol(no election campaigning), and if he likes, he can come back to visit Kosova again. As long as you don't violate the law of Kosova.

John Bosnitch

pre 10 godina

Is Vucic going to deliver the "kiss of death"? If so, best that he not go. These charades about visiting churches in Kosovo are proof that Serbia's former "Democratic" Party government and today's Serbian Progressive Party government are collaborators in giving up Kosovo to Albanian extremists while going through the motions of denying it publicly.

If the Belgrade authorities truly do not recognize the independence declaration of the Pristina Albanian regime, then telling loyal Serb citizens in Kosovo to endorse that same illegal separatist regime by voting in its pseudo-democratic polls is political schizophrenia as extreme as the lying of a criminal caught red-handed.

The real question is: What is to be done? The Serbian government AND the opposition are together unconstitutionally surrendering Serbian sovereignty. They are also pressing the Constitutional Court not to invalidate the KLA "elections". Thomas Jefferson said: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Yet that is exactly what is happening in Serbia today. So we need to remember another Jefferson quote: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing..."

The time is coming for a revolution to drive out Serbia's entire foreign-controlled political clique. It is so bad now that any normal citizen selected at random would be 100% certain to rule Serbia better than those in power today.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade
john.b@imcnews.com

EU Dude

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....

FusRoDah

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see

Dardani-USAlbania

pre 10 godina

You may come with Vulin but you will not return with him and thats fore sure. Nothing worst than being scared and artested to visit "your own country" but if thats what it takes to teach you lesson, well let it be than, because we been to soft with you for too long and now that you run out lies for your people, its time to face reality

AnchyJ

pre 10 godina

For Serbs from Kosovo, the most important is official support of Serbia. At the same time, the Turkish and Albanian premieres walk freely through Kosovo and they make improper statements which directly threaten the sovereignty of Serbia, Serbs feel uneasy. Now the most important are supports of Vucic and Vulin, because Serbs believe in them.

bob

pre 10 godina

Yes 'the truth'...it soon will come to light and what may come sill surprise the pristina sponsors. Decisions are not concrete actions. Now the real conflict approaches and bellies are getting hungry on both sides of the divide.

the truth

pre 10 godina

"I am telling you this, and they (Priština) are free to arrest whoever they like. I will go together with Vulin and visit all your places in Kosovo and Metohija," Vučić said.

@Vucic,
How soon you forgot that ; Russian Ambassador from Belgrade was not allowed to enter Kosova, among many other Serb top politicians!? Stay tune fellas.

the truth

pre 10 godina

"I am telling you this, and they (Priština) are free to arrest whoever they like. I will go together with Vulin and visit all your places in Kosovo and Metohija," Vučić said.

@Vucic,
How soon you forgot that ; Russian Ambassador from Belgrade was not allowed to enter Kosova, among many other Serb top politicians!? Stay tune fellas.

Dardani-USAlbania

pre 10 godina

You may come with Vulin but you will not return with him and thats fore sure. Nothing worst than being scared and artested to visit "your own country" but if thats what it takes to teach you lesson, well let it be than, because we been to soft with you for too long and now that you run out lies for your people, its time to face reality

FusRoDah

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see

EU Dude

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....

AnchyJ

pre 10 godina

For Serbs from Kosovo, the most important is official support of Serbia. At the same time, the Turkish and Albanian premieres walk freely through Kosovo and they make improper statements which directly threaten the sovereignty of Serbia, Serbs feel uneasy. Now the most important are supports of Vucic and Vulin, because Serbs believe in them.

bobby

pre 10 godina

The problems that Serbs have in Kosovo is made by politicians from Beograde and only them.Vucic and Docic sold Kosovo serbs which no other country has ever done. Yes go to Kosovo and ask serbs to forgive you for all the LIES you told them and the whole of Serbia.KPS should do us a big favor and lock you up, the longer you stay locked up, the better for us and rest of Serbia.Lock you up and throw the key away.

bob

pre 10 godina

Yes 'the truth'...it soon will come to light and what may come sill surprise the pristina sponsors. Decisions are not concrete actions. Now the real conflict approaches and bellies are getting hungry on both sides of the divide.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

That's only a battle after the fight is over and nobody really cares!
They've sold out Kosovo for a plate of lentils, and are trying to save face by fighting for peanuts for to convince Serbians to vote against their own interests. Pure show-biz!
If you love your homeland, don't vote during Kosova elections.
It's a simple as that!

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Vucic and Vulin will attempt to enter Kosova through the forest dressed as old Serbian women for Halloween. They better remember to bring a change of underwear.

a New Day

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....
(EU Dude, 26 October 2013 00:29
And why do you think that the EP will remain silent?? Could it be because they know that would be the standard practice in their own countries, that anyone entering illegally would be subject to arrest? Which would show that the Albanians are more European than the Serbians, as I doubt you would get any of the EU countries to admit that they would send a minister of their govt into a country without proper papers.
It matters not if you think of Kosovo as a Republic or UN protectorate neither is subject to Serbian laws and the Serbian govt must abide by the laws governing Kosovo. The only argument Serbia could put forth to the international community would be if and only if either UNMIK or EULEX were to grant permission and you know there is zero chance of that happening, and then support would fall along recognition lines.
I believe they will attempt it knowing that they will be turned back at the border, as they need more stunts to argue the low turnout in the elections in the north are due to Pristina and not a rejection of Belgrade.

John Bosnitch

pre 10 godina

Is Vucic going to deliver the "kiss of death"? If so, best that he not go. These charades about visiting churches in Kosovo are proof that Serbia's former "Democratic" Party government and today's Serbian Progressive Party government are collaborators in giving up Kosovo to Albanian extremists while going through the motions of denying it publicly.

If the Belgrade authorities truly do not recognize the independence declaration of the Pristina Albanian regime, then telling loyal Serb citizens in Kosovo to endorse that same illegal separatist regime by voting in its pseudo-democratic polls is political schizophrenia as extreme as the lying of a criminal caught red-handed.

The real question is: What is to be done? The Serbian government AND the opposition are together unconstitutionally surrendering Serbian sovereignty. They are also pressing the Constitutional Court not to invalidate the KLA "elections". Thomas Jefferson said: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Yet that is exactly what is happening in Serbia today. So we need to remember another Jefferson quote: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing..."

The time is coming for a revolution to drive out Serbia's entire foreign-controlled political clique. It is so bad now that any normal citizen selected at random would be 100% certain to rule Serbia better than those in power today.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade
john.b@imcnews.com

the truth

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see
(FusRoDah, 25 October 2013 21:16)

Nobody is stopping Vucic, but Vulin aka MIB is not allowed. Dacic came and followed the protocol(no election campaigning), and if he likes, he can come back to visit Kosova again. As long as you don't violate the law of Kosova.

Nikolina

pre 10 godina

Serbian people deserve to meet with Vulin and Vucic and I hope they will be connected soon. It's not diplomatical what Turkish PM said, but Vucic attitude will show that Serbia is not for humiliation.

EA

pre 10 godina

Serbia is trying to play cat and mouse when it comes to Kosovo....let's not talk about its sincerity when it comes to its latest actions. Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"He once again criticized Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan's statement made in Prizren this week that "Kosovo is Turkey and Turkey Kosovo."

Mullah Erdogan likes to meddle in other countries (or pseudo-countries), not only in the Balkans. This islamist is still thinking Turkey is the new Osman empire. So not surprising he's getting along well with Albanian extremists who still dream of a greater... oops, I mean 'natural' Albania.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!"
(EA, 26 October 2013 23:34)

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece' which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state, and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece'
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

of course, as it is not part of Serbia if you accept the 'declaration of independece'...
----------

which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

yes, in accordance with international law... So what's the problem ?
----------

and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Of course, it was not mutually agreed, but was still in accordance with international law
----------

mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Unfortunately international law goes with the English version of UN1244, not the Serbian one and the former does not require a "mutually agreed permanent solution". But, since I don't speak Serbian, I trust you that the Serbian version might very well state that.

a New Day

pre 10 godina

be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)
Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia. It mentions a political process to determine the final status in accordance with the Rambouillet accords, which says that after 3 years an international group would be formed to determine the final status.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia
======================================
What do you think the meaning of "mutually agreed" means?

Dardani-USAlbania

pre 10 godina

You may come with Vulin but you will not return with him and thats fore sure. Nothing worst than being scared and artested to visit "your own country" but if thats what it takes to teach you lesson, well let it be than, because we been to soft with you for too long and now that you run out lies for your people, its time to face reality

the truth

pre 10 godina

"I am telling you this, and they (Priština) are free to arrest whoever they like. I will go together with Vulin and visit all your places in Kosovo and Metohija," Vučić said.

@Vucic,
How soon you forgot that ; Russian Ambassador from Belgrade was not allowed to enter Kosova, among many other Serb top politicians!? Stay tune fellas.

AnchyJ

pre 10 godina

For Serbs from Kosovo, the most important is official support of Serbia. At the same time, the Turkish and Albanian premieres walk freely through Kosovo and they make improper statements which directly threaten the sovereignty of Serbia, Serbs feel uneasy. Now the most important are supports of Vucic and Vulin, because Serbs believe in them.

FusRoDah

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see

EU Dude

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....

bob

pre 10 godina

Yes 'the truth'...it soon will come to light and what may come sill surprise the pristina sponsors. Decisions are not concrete actions. Now the real conflict approaches and bellies are getting hungry on both sides of the divide.

The Count of Kosova

pre 10 godina

Vucic and Vulin will attempt to enter Kosova through the forest dressed as old Serbian women for Halloween. They better remember to bring a change of underwear.

EA

pre 10 godina

Serbia is trying to play cat and mouse when it comes to Kosovo....let's not talk about its sincerity when it comes to its latest actions. Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"He once again criticized Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan's statement made in Prizren this week that "Kosovo is Turkey and Turkey Kosovo."

Mullah Erdogan likes to meddle in other countries (or pseudo-countries), not only in the Balkans. This islamist is still thinking Turkey is the new Osman empire. So not surprising he's getting along well with Albanian extremists who still dream of a greater... oops, I mean 'natural' Albania.

John Bosnitch

pre 10 godina

Is Vucic going to deliver the "kiss of death"? If so, best that he not go. These charades about visiting churches in Kosovo are proof that Serbia's former "Democratic" Party government and today's Serbian Progressive Party government are collaborators in giving up Kosovo to Albanian extremists while going through the motions of denying it publicly.

If the Belgrade authorities truly do not recognize the independence declaration of the Pristina Albanian regime, then telling loyal Serb citizens in Kosovo to endorse that same illegal separatist regime by voting in its pseudo-democratic polls is political schizophrenia as extreme as the lying of a criminal caught red-handed.

The real question is: What is to be done? The Serbian government AND the opposition are together unconstitutionally surrendering Serbian sovereignty. They are also pressing the Constitutional Court not to invalidate the KLA "elections". Thomas Jefferson said: "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." Yet that is exactly what is happening in Serbia today. So we need to remember another Jefferson quote: "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing..."

The time is coming for a revolution to drive out Serbia's entire foreign-controlled political clique. It is so bad now that any normal citizen selected at random would be 100% certain to rule Serbia better than those in power today.

John Bosnitch
Journalist
Belgrade
john.b@imcnews.com

the truth

pre 10 godina

@the truth

Remember how Thaci said that Dacic wont go to Kosovo? And then he went. Just the thing is Vucic is much stronger politician then Dacic. He will go there. Let see
(FusRoDah, 25 October 2013 21:16)

Nobody is stopping Vucic, but Vulin aka MIB is not allowed. Dacic came and followed the protocol(no election campaigning), and if he likes, he can come back to visit Kosova again. As long as you don't violate the law of Kosova.

Nikolina

pre 10 godina

Serbian people deserve to meet with Vulin and Vucic and I hope they will be connected soon. It's not diplomatical what Turkish PM said, but Vucic attitude will show that Serbia is not for humiliation.

a New Day

pre 10 godina

What a good idea. They will be undoubtedly arrested by the albanian pilice (serbian for chickens I think) and it will show how far the Pristina mafia is from any kind of european value and ideals. The European Parliament will either say little or condemn the Serbs, as usual....
(EU Dude, 26 October 2013 00:29
And why do you think that the EP will remain silent?? Could it be because they know that would be the standard practice in their own countries, that anyone entering illegally would be subject to arrest? Which would show that the Albanians are more European than the Serbians, as I doubt you would get any of the EU countries to admit that they would send a minister of their govt into a country without proper papers.
It matters not if you think of Kosovo as a Republic or UN protectorate neither is subject to Serbian laws and the Serbian govt must abide by the laws governing Kosovo. The only argument Serbia could put forth to the international community would be if and only if either UNMIK or EULEX were to grant permission and you know there is zero chance of that happening, and then support would fall along recognition lines.
I believe they will attempt it knowing that they will be turned back at the border, as they need more stunts to argue the low turnout in the elections in the north are due to Pristina and not a rejection of Belgrade.

Joachim

pre 10 godina

That's only a battle after the fight is over and nobody really cares!
They've sold out Kosovo for a plate of lentils, and are trying to save face by fighting for peanuts for to convince Serbians to vote against their own interests. Pure show-biz!
If you love your homeland, don't vote during Kosova elections.
It's a simple as that!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 10 godina

"Serbia enjoys saying "Kosovo je Srebia" but gets very upset when others say Kosovo is Albania or Turkey....What a joke!"
(EA, 26 October 2013 23:34)

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece' which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state, and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia
======================================
What do you think the meaning of "mutually agreed" means?

bobby

pre 10 godina

The problems that Serbs have in Kosovo is made by politicians from Beograde and only them.Vucic and Docic sold Kosovo serbs which no other country has ever done. Yes go to Kosovo and ask serbs to forgive you for all the LIES you told them and the whole of Serbia.KPS should do us a big favor and lock you up, the longer you stay locked up, the better for us and rest of Serbia.Lock you up and throw the key away.

a New Day

pre 10 godina

be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)
Would you mind highlighting where that is in UNSC 1244. I have read the text several times and have never seen anywhere that anything must be agreed to by Serbia. It mentions a political process to determine the final status in accordance with the Rambouillet accords, which says that after 3 years an international group would be formed to determine the final status.

icj1

pre 10 godina

Well, Kosovo is part of Serbia if you don't accept the 'declaration of independece'
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

of course, as it is not part of Serbia if you accept the 'declaration of independece'...
----------

which was unilaterally made by an ethnic minority on the soil of a recognized UN member state
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

yes, in accordance with international law... So what's the problem ?
----------

and which surely cannot be seen as the mutually agreed permanent solution for Kosovo
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Of course, it was not mutually agreed, but was still in accordance with international law
----------

mentioned in UN1244.
(Comm. Parrisson, 29 October 2013 06:31)

Unfortunately international law goes with the English version of UN1244, not the Serbian one and the former does not require a "mutually agreed permanent solution". But, since I don't speak Serbian, I trust you that the Serbian version might very well state that.