Vučić: Srebrenica was horrendous crime

You talk like a gutless bastard Vucic, much like your mentor Nikolic. I never heard Bakir Izetbegovic make statements like yours. On the contrary, he critisizes Serbs the minute he opens his mouth. Has he confessed about the autrocities committed against the Serbs? He's trying to achieve a muslum Bosnia-Herzegovina, and you're just sucking up to the EU. I do not understand how you can be the most trusted politicion? Even the DS, the biggest sellouts, were more trustworthy than you. Nosise znash di?

baby steps.

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs

Srebrenica was GENOCIDE. Not a _____ crime.

To Ivan: At least he is talking rationally, and not from the ass as you do! People need truth for better future, and not nationalistic myths and emotions about the Great Serbia! Wake up Ivan! Be a modern man, use ration, do some research, be a citizen of the world! I am sure you can do it! Best :D

Xman:

People need the truth for a better future. Yes, however, the truth from all sides. One sided biasness will never resolve anything.

Before I believe that Serbs commited atrocities anywhere in the breakup of the SFRY, I want to know details. I don't even care what the Serbs say. I know what was done to the Serbs is true because I know what the history of the treatment of the Serbs is in the Balkans. And those same people lie about the Serbs all the time. They don't know what else to do. But what people say the Serbs did, I won't believe until I hear details about everything.

This guy and people like him are a disgrace,in all these years I have not seen any evidence that eight thousand people were executed in Srebrenica,i believe it didn't happen and this clown comes out with that statement.

Bob, Auschwitz is genocide, Jasenovac is genocide, Bratunac is genocide. Srebrenica, where revenge was taken on Naser Oric's butchers and women and children were bused to safety, is not even in the same galaxy as genocide. You're obviously ignorant and a historical revisionist, and your definition of genocide is an insult to the real victims of real genocide, such as Serbs and Jews in Jasenovac.
As for the resident self hating Serb Danilo, crawl back in your cave you pathetic wanker, it will save you future embarrassment. Do what you do best, which is wank off on your computer screen.
Cheers!!

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs
(Danilo, 2 August 2013 16:55)

You already have a comparing in the article: “Are Serbs like that because of what happened in Srebrenica or Bosniaks are like that because of what happened at other places, on the Mt. Ozren where Serbs were beheaded,” Vucic asked.

Besides that, I think these were enough of clear, realistic and wise words. Well done, Mr. Vucic.

Though it won't stop those 'hobby Serbs' to downplay or deny the massacre, the worst war crime in Europe after WW2, deporting and killing some 1000 civilians.

That guy is a jerk! Maybe he forgot about all the attacks on the police and then run into the safe zones. Mladich stopped all the nonsense the muslems were carrying out in that part of the territory!

Before I believe that Serbs commited atrocities anywhere in the breakup of the SFRY, I want to know details. I don't even care what the Serbs say. I know what was done to the Serbs is true because I know what the history of the treatment of the Serbs is in the Balkans. And those same people lie about the Serbs all the time. They don't know what else to do. But what people say the Serbs did, I won't believe until I hear details about everything.
(Paul, 2 August 2013 22:54)

Well, nobody has time to waste explaining things to you, but you can help yourself at http://www.icty.org/action/cases/4 and find all details that you want.

Ivan,

I think maybe you didn't read the article and just the headline :)

(Englishman, 2 August 2013 23:53)

The found the bones, dude.

the identified with DNA 6000+ bodies and have ~2000 left still to identify.

They do about 2 a day, hence burying 600 bodies a year.

you see, this painstaking work takes a little more time than saying on the internet from the UK, "oh, but I haven't seen any evidence *hairfilp*"

Who would have thought we would hear works like this from one of the former leaders of the Radical Party? It’s just astonishing that the myths in Serbia are being smashed to pieces by Socialist Party and the former leaders of the Radical Party. I must say I am astonished by the turnaround in their thinking and pleasantly surprised. I never thought I would live to hear Vucic and Dacic speak rational stuff like this.
I remember these two from 90’s as being the mouthpieces for Milosevic and Sheshel, and very hateful ones at that. What Tadic and DS, the beloved party of the west, could not do is being done by the former colleagues of Milosevic and Sheshel. As it turned out, Tadic and DS were gutless. They really missed the chance to move Serbia in the right direction and with it a chance to remain a viable party. They are completely useless now as the west no longer needs them.
I am scratching my head trying to figure out how such a turnaround in ones thinking is even possible. Remember, this is the kind of stuff that Cedomir Jovanovich was saying 7 years ago and Radicals of Vucic wanted him run out of town. Anything is possible! Don’t you let anyone else tell you otherwise 

This man must be on the EU pay roll just like the rest of the Serbian politicians in Beograde.When Croatia and Muslims admit to there war crimes, and God knows their has been many war crimes committed including crime against the Serbian people then and only then we can truly move on. Croatia must apologies for the crimes they committed in WW2 for supporting the Hitler and the Muslims for supporting terrorism.EU made a big mistake for letting Croatia in EU with NO APOLOGY.

Its quite a sight watching a politician who for years was the most radical in Serbia refusing to talk about Srebrenica and denying the victims there. Now we see him climbing down, doing all the things he used to accuse his opponents of doing, and worse.

Now he goes to Kosovo and cries because he is called a traitor. Too bad Vucic you were the one leading the charge of traitor, with a hysterical brand of politics that had some people saying you were more extreme than Seselj.

I disliked your warmongering and aggressive stance in the past and I dislike your U turn. You can't be trusted not to make another 3 or 4 U turns in your career that even Vuk Draskovic would be ashamed of.

So when you go on bended knee to Croatia and Bosnia then apologise and admit your mistakes, but do it in your own name - since you were among the most guilty. God knows you have a lot to repent for.

But don't bother pretending to represent the Serbian people with your admissions - the majority of them have a lot less blood on their hands than you.

Can I please ask a sincere question? I'm not from the region but have travelled here and love people I met, Serbian, Croatian, Bosniak and Albanian. I'm not looking to inflame the nationalists on all sides who populate the comments on this site. This is how I formed my opinion, and I accept that in this region, as much as anywhere, history and facts don't exist, only people's perceptions. I generally find it upsetting the levels of distrust and hatred and the reluctance to look forward, even for people to plan the future based on spite that doesn't even serve their own interests. What do people want, well it's the same everywhere - jobs, improved quality of life, safety, best for their families. What I don't understand is why People A (note I am not specifying) are unable to say "yes, terrible things were done by our government at the time, and in our name. As a people we are not proud of this but the realities are more complex than the world and media say. Terrible things were done by all of us to each other and the murder of people, whatever their nationality or background, is gruesome, and never to be defended, but that does not mean that People A are intrinsically violent or evil people; it has been the tragic role of history but we also need to take responsibility, not individually, but as a people, not blame others and claim 100% innocence. We accept our views are different from others but we all need to move forward, though not forget". Why is this never heard?

Well, more proof that the West has failed. Pooping more and more in the clear water. Pushing false truths to people who don't believe it. Pushing truth underground until it resurfaces once again... they never learn...

I never wanted to believe crimes were committed but it is apparent that they have. People did horrible things to each other in that war. The best way forward is to admit what happened to every victim, admit that nothing good came of the murders, admit that there can be no good result from further bloodshed and try to tolerate and cooperate. No one needs to hold each others hands and pretend like the past does not matter. Of course it matters, but it does not matter more than the future.

If we can accomplish anything at all, it is to put safeguards in so that another war in the Balkans, complete with criminal bands and outsiders making a fortune off of the suffering of regular people, does not happen again.

“I do not want to hide behind anyone who committed this horrendous crime in the name of the people I belong to. Horrifying, gruesome crime which is so horrible that one could be ashamed that someone who took part in it belongs to one's people,” the deputy prime minister said.

It sounds to me like genocide coming from your deputy PM.
Yet, you have people who deny it even happened.
Ahmadinejad also denies the Holocaust.

@ Ivan I agree with you 100% are politicians are a joke

What he fails to mention is Serbia was the only one to be punished for her crimes, if that's what they were. One needs to look at the lead up to the takeover to get the full picture. Why did less than a thousand Serbian troops literally walk into srebrenica unchallenged? What was the chronology of events? There is much more to this than meets the eye. I believe the French know what really happened, and were particularly guilty of complicity.

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.

re the dead
https://hrdag.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rdn5.pdf ( Patrick Ball, Ewa Tabeau and Philip Verwimp's assessment of the war figures)
and
www.idc.org.ba/( Mirsad Tokaca's report Bosnian Book of the Dead - the figures address those directly killed by the war not indirectly eg through lack of access to medical care, suicide, long term injuries, health depletion )

re the living if Vucic et al want closure to move towards a better future then release the files re logistics and support from Serbia during 1992-1994( after that ties were officially cut- I daresay to further the illusion that the RSA was independent and self funding.)
Without transparency then there is only the fog of denial.

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs
(Danilo, 2 August 2013 16:55)
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Yes they did Danilo. Are you denying they committed horrible crimes against us too? Are you really?
When can we get an apology from them?

And BTW, I am a real Serb not a hobby one.

What exactly is a hobby Serb anyway?

Srebrenica was GENOCIDE. Not a _____ crime.
(Bob, 2 August 2013 19:32)

Only in an Albanian dictionary mate.

I truly wonder if the day will come when the Serb nationalists on this site will be willing to accept that while horrific and unacceptable crimes were committed by all sides, it remains a fact that the crimes committed by Serbs outweigh crimes committed by others. Despite their rhetoric, this is not to ignore or forget the horrific things done to innocent Serbs, every one also a tragedy and for the good of the region, I hope the day will come when all sides are able to make sincere apologies for what was done in their name, and allow the region to heal. However the demands of these genocide apologists defies belief and they have such nerve to insist that all other parties apologise while refusing at the same time to accept that there is any responsibility on the part of what was done in their name by Serbs! Makes me despair for the human race. I worked in Sarajevo in the 1990s. Those that perpetrated this criminal act deserve to see what they have done, And so should those on this site who should try and drag up one drop of humanity inside them. And I don't dare go into the the genocide of Srerbrenica.

I truly wonder if the day will come when the Serb nationalists on this site will be willing to accept that while horrific and unacceptable crimes were committed by all sides, it remains a fact that the crimes committed by Serbs outweigh crimes committed by others. Despite their rhetoric, this is not to ignore or forget the horrific things done to innocent Serbs, every one also a tragedy and for the good of the region, I hope the day will come when all sides are able to make sincere apologies for what was done in their name, and allow the region to heal. However the demands of these genocide apologists defies belief and they have such nerve to insist that all other parties apologise while refusing at the same time to accept that there is any responsibility on the part of what was done in their name by Serbs! Makes me despair for the human race. I worked in Sarajevo in the 1990s. Those that perpetrated this criminal act deserve to see what they have done, And so should those on this site who should try and drag up one drop of humanity inside them. And I don't dare go into the the genocide of Srerbrenica.

Bob, Auschwitz is genocide, Jasenovac is genocide, Bratunac is genocide. Srebrenica, where revenge was taken on Naser Oric's butchers and women and children were bused to safety, is not even in the same galaxy as genocide. You're obviously ignorant and a historical revisionist, and your definition of genocide is an insult to the real victims of real genocide, such as Serbs and Jews in Jasenovac.
(Dragan, 3 August 2013 05:00)

Poor Serbs, eternal victims, even though Serb patriots in these forums maintain that Serbs are heroic and the only machos in the Balkans and all non-Serbs are cowards and are no match for the Serbs!

Anyway, according to the UNSC (which Serbs in this galaxy so much love) genocide in this galaxy means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- killing members of the group;
- causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

It appears that in your galaxy there is a different definition of genocide and that's fine. Your galaxy is certainly entitled to a definition of genocide that is different from the definition of Earth's UNSC.

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.
(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)

I fully agree that there is no such evidence vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj and his/her Malaysian friend and therefore no evidence exists if and until sj and his/her Malaysian friend say so.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Bratunac is genocide
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Bratunac, a muslim village before the war, was ethnically cleansed by Serbs early in the war. (check SFRJ census data)

According to VRS's own statistics, around 250 people died in Bratunac.

Later, propaganda from various Serbian extremist outlets stated and perpetuated that more than 3000 Serbian civilians were killed there. This is a flat-out lie.

Of course, this will provoke a stream of insults from some people but, unfortunately, it's the truth and I encourage you to research further if what I say happens to anger you.

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.
(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)
sj making claims someone else does not have proof of something they say. A little humor always helps to start the day. Thanks.

You were, and continue to be a horrendous crime. Radicals and socialists ruined Serbia, and now they have turned to a dialogue of forgiveness and reconciliation. Get lost! You criminals have too much blood on your hands to get off that easy. The Serbian peasant may be stupid enough to believe you, but the world is not. Pay for the blood on your hand first, and then maybe, after asking for forgiveness, work your way into Serbian society. Unfortunately, most of Serbia proper is as mentally deranged as you are.

Vucic is starting to make sense, finally. Although some here don't get it, this is good for Serbia and for the region. Serbia lost a lot of influence and goodwill in the region in the past two decades. Yes, it's too early for reconciliation, but at least we can start cooperating. Vucic and Dacic need support from Serbian people. Their failure (and/or empowerment of extremists), could spell trouble for the region. Above all, it could cost Serbian people dearly by translating in more international isolation. Serbs, it's your country, take hold of your future!

(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)
In my opinion there is no difference in those who committed the crimes and those who justify or deny them. Sad that humanity must endure such evil people.

Paul, 2 August 2013 22:54)
You do not want proof, you are saying you will never believe it but you believe what you perceive happened to Serbs without proof only of rumors.
There is no reason for anyone to waste time trying to convince you or show you proof as it is futile.
So stand arm in arm with your fellow murderers, child rapists, torturers, and other gutter rats, at least it seems that most Serbs are repulsed by them.

The biggest crime since the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans.

I read all the comments on this article. First I want to say that Vucic is behaving like he did in the 1990s. It's his character it seems. Either he is a parrot and mumbles where the money lies (donations), or he is planning on moving again. But where to? To the places around the world where the Serbs of injustice have settled in recent and decades past? That would be similar to Tito showing up in a Christian community overseas. Those are the places from where he receives the biggest criticism and no defense.

As for the comments relating to violence and what can be done to prevent it, the issue is in the study of what led up to the violence. Who planned on disobeying, and actually acted out on disobeying the agreed upon laws, which would force, and had forced, parts of the region to distance themselves from those that where imposing their way of life, or rule, onto others.

Today's human nature is no different than the past. What led up to the first world war? Perhaps a Roman Catholic Empire annexing Bosnia in 1908?

It has been shown that Vucic would rather mumble and eat hairy cheese as an conquered Serb in Belgrade than eat bark from the trees while retreating to Corfu, Greece as a free man.

You talk like a gutless bastard Vucic, much like your mentor Nikolic. I never heard Bakir Izetbegovic make statements like yours. On the contrary, he critisizes Serbs the minute he opens his mouth. Has he confessed about the autrocities committed against the Serbs? He's trying to achieve a muslum Bosnia-Herzegovina, and you're just sucking up to the EU. I do not understand how you can be the most trusted politicion? Even the DS, the biggest sellouts, were more trustworthy than you. Nosise znash di?

Srebrenica was GENOCIDE. Not a _____ crime.

This guy and people like him are a disgrace,in all these years I have not seen any evidence that eight thousand people were executed in Srebrenica,i believe it didn't happen and this clown comes out with that statement.

Before I believe that Serbs commited atrocities anywhere in the breakup of the SFRY, I want to know details. I don't even care what the Serbs say. I know what was done to the Serbs is true because I know what the history of the treatment of the Serbs is in the Balkans. And those same people lie about the Serbs all the time. They don't know what else to do. But what people say the Serbs did, I won't believe until I hear details about everything.

To Ivan: At least he is talking rationally, and not from the ass as you do! People need truth for better future, and not nationalistic myths and emotions about the Great Serbia! Wake up Ivan! Be a modern man, use ration, do some research, be a citizen of the world! I am sure you can do it! Best :D

baby steps.

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs

Ivan,

I think maybe you didn't read the article and just the headline :)

Xman:

People need the truth for a better future. Yes, however, the truth from all sides. One sided biasness will never resolve anything.

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs
(Danilo, 2 August 2013 16:55)

You already have a comparing in the article: “Are Serbs like that because of what happened in Srebrenica or Bosniaks are like that because of what happened at other places, on the Mt. Ozren where Serbs were beheaded,” Vucic asked.

Besides that, I think these were enough of clear, realistic and wise words. Well done, Mr. Vucic.

Though it won't stop those 'hobby Serbs' to downplay or deny the massacre, the worst war crime in Europe after WW2, deporting and killing some 1000 civilians.

Well, more proof that the West has failed. Pooping more and more in the clear water. Pushing false truths to people who don't believe it. Pushing truth underground until it resurfaces once again... they never learn...

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.

“I do not want to hide behind anyone who committed this horrendous crime in the name of the people I belong to. Horrifying, gruesome crime which is so horrible that one could be ashamed that someone who took part in it belongs to one's people,” the deputy prime minister said.

It sounds to me like genocide coming from your deputy PM.
Yet, you have people who deny it even happened.
Ahmadinejad also denies the Holocaust.

Before I believe that Serbs commited atrocities anywhere in the breakup of the SFRY, I want to know details. I don't even care what the Serbs say. I know what was done to the Serbs is true because I know what the history of the treatment of the Serbs is in the Balkans. And those same people lie about the Serbs all the time. They don't know what else to do. But what people say the Serbs did, I won't believe until I hear details about everything.
(Paul, 2 August 2013 22:54)

Well, nobody has time to waste explaining things to you, but you can help yourself at http://www.icty.org/action/cases/4 and find all details that you want.

This man must be on the EU pay roll just like the rest of the Serbian politicians in Beograde.When Croatia and Muslims admit to there war crimes, and God knows their has been many war crimes committed including crime against the Serbian people then and only then we can truly move on. Croatia must apologies for the crimes they committed in WW2 for supporting the Hitler and the Muslims for supporting terrorism.EU made a big mistake for letting Croatia in EU with NO APOLOGY.

That guy is a jerk! Maybe he forgot about all the attacks on the police and then run into the safe zones. Mladich stopped all the nonsense the muslems were carrying out in that part of the territory!

(Englishman, 2 August 2013 23:53)

The found the bones, dude.

the identified with DNA 6000+ bodies and have ~2000 left still to identify.

They do about 2 a day, hence burying 600 bodies a year.

you see, this painstaking work takes a little more time than saying on the internet from the UK, "oh, but I haven't seen any evidence *hairfilp*"

Can I please ask a sincere question? I'm not from the region but have travelled here and love people I met, Serbian, Croatian, Bosniak and Albanian. I'm not looking to inflame the nationalists on all sides who populate the comments on this site. This is how I formed my opinion, and I accept that in this region, as much as anywhere, history and facts don't exist, only people's perceptions. I generally find it upsetting the levels of distrust and hatred and the reluctance to look forward, even for people to plan the future based on spite that doesn't even serve their own interests. What do people want, well it's the same everywhere - jobs, improved quality of life, safety, best for their families. What I don't understand is why People A (note I am not specifying) are unable to say "yes, terrible things were done by our government at the time, and in our name. As a people we are not proud of this but the realities are more complex than the world and media say. Terrible things were done by all of us to each other and the murder of people, whatever their nationality or background, is gruesome, and never to be defended, but that does not mean that People A are intrinsically violent or evil people; it has been the tragic role of history but we also need to take responsibility, not individually, but as a people, not blame others and claim 100% innocence. We accept our views are different from others but we all need to move forward, though not forget". Why is this never heard?

@ Ivan I agree with you 100% are politicians are a joke

Bob, Auschwitz is genocide, Jasenovac is genocide, Bratunac is genocide. Srebrenica, where revenge was taken on Naser Oric's butchers and women and children were bused to safety, is not even in the same galaxy as genocide. You're obviously ignorant and a historical revisionist, and your definition of genocide is an insult to the real victims of real genocide, such as Serbs and Jews in Jasenovac.
As for the resident self hating Serb Danilo, crawl back in your cave you pathetic wanker, it will save you future embarrassment. Do what you do best, which is wank off on your computer screen.
Cheers!!

Its quite a sight watching a politician who for years was the most radical in Serbia refusing to talk about Srebrenica and denying the victims there. Now we see him climbing down, doing all the things he used to accuse his opponents of doing, and worse.

Now he goes to Kosovo and cries because he is called a traitor. Too bad Vucic you were the one leading the charge of traitor, with a hysterical brand of politics that had some people saying you were more extreme than Seselj.

I disliked your warmongering and aggressive stance in the past and I dislike your U turn. You can't be trusted not to make another 3 or 4 U turns in your career that even Vuk Draskovic would be ashamed of.

So when you go on bended knee to Croatia and Bosnia then apologise and admit your mistakes, but do it in your own name - since you were among the most guilty. God knows you have a lot to repent for.

But don't bother pretending to represent the Serbian people with your admissions - the majority of them have a lot less blood on their hands than you.

What he fails to mention is Serbia was the only one to be punished for her crimes, if that's what they were. One needs to look at the lead up to the takeover to get the full picture. Why did less than a thousand Serbian troops literally walk into srebrenica unchallenged? What was the chronology of events? There is much more to this than meets the eye. I believe the French know what really happened, and were particularly guilty of complicity.

re the dead
https://hrdag.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/rdn5.pdf ( Patrick Ball, Ewa Tabeau and Philip Verwimp's assessment of the war figures)
and
www.idc.org.ba/( Mirsad Tokaca's report Bosnian Book of the Dead - the figures address those directly killed by the war not indirectly eg through lack of access to medical care, suicide, long term injuries, health depletion )

re the living if Vucic et al want closure to move towards a better future then release the files re logistics and support from Serbia during 1992-1994( after that ties were officially cut- I daresay to further the illusion that the RSA was independent and self funding.)
Without transparency then there is only the fog of denial.

Who would have thought we would hear works like this from one of the former leaders of the Radical Party? It’s just astonishing that the myths in Serbia are being smashed to pieces by Socialist Party and the former leaders of the Radical Party. I must say I am astonished by the turnaround in their thinking and pleasantly surprised. I never thought I would live to hear Vucic and Dacic speak rational stuff like this.
I remember these two from 90’s as being the mouthpieces for Milosevic and Sheshel, and very hateful ones at that. What Tadic and DS, the beloved party of the west, could not do is being done by the former colleagues of Milosevic and Sheshel. As it turned out, Tadic and DS were gutless. They really missed the chance to move Serbia in the right direction and with it a chance to remain a viable party. They are completely useless now as the west no longer needs them.
I am scratching my head trying to figure out how such a turnaround in ones thinking is even possible. Remember, this is the kind of stuff that Cedomir Jovanovich was saying 7 years ago and Radicals of Vucic wanted him run out of town. Anything is possible! Don’t you let anyone else tell you otherwise 

I never wanted to believe crimes were committed but it is apparent that they have. People did horrible things to each other in that war. The best way forward is to admit what happened to every victim, admit that nothing good came of the murders, admit that there can be no good result from further bloodshed and try to tolerate and cooperate. No one needs to hold each others hands and pretend like the past does not matter. Of course it matters, but it does not matter more than the future.

If we can accomplish anything at all, it is to put safeguards in so that another war in the Balkans, complete with criminal bands and outsiders making a fortune off of the suffering of regular people, does not happen again.

I truly wonder if the day will come when the Serb nationalists on this site will be willing to accept that while horrific and unacceptable crimes were committed by all sides, it remains a fact that the crimes committed by Serbs outweigh crimes committed by others. Despite their rhetoric, this is not to ignore or forget the horrific things done to innocent Serbs, every one also a tragedy and for the good of the region, I hope the day will come when all sides are able to make sincere apologies for what was done in their name, and allow the region to heal. However the demands of these genocide apologists defies belief and they have such nerve to insist that all other parties apologise while refusing at the same time to accept that there is any responsibility on the part of what was done in their name by Serbs! Makes me despair for the human race. I worked in Sarajevo in the 1990s. Those that perpetrated this criminal act deserve to see what they have done, And so should those on this site who should try and drag up one drop of humanity inside them. And I don't dare go into the the genocide of Srerbrenica.

I truly wonder if the day will come when the Serb nationalists on this site will be willing to accept that while horrific and unacceptable crimes were committed by all sides, it remains a fact that the crimes committed by Serbs outweigh crimes committed by others. Despite their rhetoric, this is not to ignore or forget the horrific things done to innocent Serbs, every one also a tragedy and for the good of the region, I hope the day will come when all sides are able to make sincere apologies for what was done in their name, and allow the region to heal. However the demands of these genocide apologists defies belief and they have such nerve to insist that all other parties apologise while refusing at the same time to accept that there is any responsibility on the part of what was done in their name by Serbs! Makes me despair for the human race. I worked in Sarajevo in the 1990s. Those that perpetrated this criminal act deserve to see what they have done, And so should those on this site who should try and drag up one drop of humanity inside them. And I don't dare go into the the genocide of Srerbrenica.

Bob, Auschwitz is genocide, Jasenovac is genocide, Bratunac is genocide. Srebrenica, where revenge was taken on Naser Oric's butchers and women and children were bused to safety, is not even in the same galaxy as genocide. You're obviously ignorant and a historical revisionist, and your definition of genocide is an insult to the real victims of real genocide, such as Serbs and Jews in Jasenovac.
(Dragan, 3 August 2013 05:00)

Poor Serbs, eternal victims, even though Serb patriots in these forums maintain that Serbs are heroic and the only machos in the Balkans and all non-Serbs are cowards and are no match for the Serbs!

Anyway, according to the UNSC (which Serbs in this galaxy so much love) genocide in this galaxy means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- killing members of the group;
- causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

It appears that in your galaxy there is a different definition of genocide and that's fine. Your galaxy is certainly entitled to a definition of genocide that is different from the definition of Earth's UNSC.

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.
(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)

I fully agree that there is no such evidence vetted by the CE of B92 forums sj and his/her Malaysian friend and therefore no evidence exists if and until sj and his/her Malaysian friend say so.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Bratunac is genocide
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Bratunac, a muslim village before the war, was ethnically cleansed by Serbs early in the war. (check SFRJ census data)

According to VRS's own statistics, around 250 people died in Bratunac.

Later, propaganda from various Serbian extremist outlets stated and perpetuated that more than 3000 Serbian civilians were killed there. This is a flat-out lie.

Of course, this will provoke a stream of insults from some people but, unfortunately, it's the truth and I encourage you to research further if what I say happens to anger you.

Alexander Vucic you’re a pathetic treacherous snake that should go back to the UK. There is nor has there ever been any evidence of 8000 people killed in Srebrenica.
(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)
sj making claims someone else does not have proof of something they say. A little humor always helps to start the day. Thanks.

You were, and continue to be a horrendous crime. Radicals and socialists ruined Serbia, and now they have turned to a dialogue of forgiveness and reconciliation. Get lost! You criminals have too much blood on your hands to get off that easy. The Serbian peasant may be stupid enough to believe you, but the world is not. Pay for the blood on your hand first, and then maybe, after asking for forgiveness, work your way into Serbian society. Unfortunately, most of Serbia proper is as mentally deranged as you are.

Vucic is starting to make sense, finally. Although some here don't get it, this is good for Serbia and for the region. Serbia lost a lot of influence and goodwill in the region in the past two decades. Yes, it's too early for reconciliation, but at least we can start cooperating. Vucic and Dacic need support from Serbian people. Their failure (and/or empowerment of extremists), could spell trouble for the region. Above all, it could cost Serbian people dearly by translating in more international isolation. Serbs, it's your country, take hold of your future!

(sj, 3 August 2013 04:02)
In my opinion there is no difference in those who committed the crimes and those who justify or deny them. Sad that humanity must endure such evil people.

Paul, 2 August 2013 22:54)
You do not want proof, you are saying you will never believe it but you believe what you perceive happened to Serbs without proof only of rumors.
There is no reason for anyone to waste time trying to convince you or show you proof as it is futile.
So stand arm in arm with your fellow murderers, child rapists, torturers, and other gutter rats, at least it seems that most Serbs are repulsed by them.

looking forward to endless iterations of, "oh but THEY ALSO did bad things" from the hobby serbs
(Danilo, 2 August 2013 16:55)
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Yes they did Danilo. Are you denying they committed horrible crimes against us too? Are you really?
When can we get an apology from them?

And BTW, I am a real Serb not a hobby one.

What exactly is a hobby Serb anyway?

Srebrenica was GENOCIDE. Not a _____ crime.
(Bob, 2 August 2013 19:32)

Only in an Albanian dictionary mate.

The biggest crime since the Ottoman invasion of the Balkans.

I read all the comments on this article. First I want to say that Vucic is behaving like he did in the 1990s. It's his character it seems. Either he is a parrot and mumbles where the money lies (donations), or he is planning on moving again. But where to? To the places around the world where the Serbs of injustice have settled in recent and decades past? That would be similar to Tito showing up in a Christian community overseas. Those are the places from where he receives the biggest criticism and no defense.

As for the comments relating to violence and what can be done to prevent it, the issue is in the study of what led up to the violence. Who planned on disobeying, and actually acted out on disobeying the agreed upon laws, which would force, and had forced, parts of the region to distance themselves from those that where imposing their way of life, or rule, onto others.

Today's human nature is no different than the past. What led up to the first world war? Perhaps a Roman Catholic Empire annexing Bosnia in 1908?

It has been shown that Vucic would rather mumble and eat hairy cheese as an conquered Serb in Belgrade than eat bark from the trees while retreating to Corfu, Greece as a free man.