Bosnia undergoing "18 years of planned crisis"

Sloppy history Ian, sloppy.

One of the Black Hand tasked with the assassination was:

"The first conspirator on the route to see the royal car was Bosniak Muhamed Mehmedbašic. Standing by the Austro-Hungarian Bank, Mehmedbašic lost his nerve and allowed the car to pass without taking action. Mehmedbašic later said that a policeman was standing behind him and feared he would be arrested before he had a chance to throw his bomb."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip#Assassination_of_the_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand

Did you get the clue? It's in the name, Muhamed Mehmedbašic. Is that what you call a 'serb nationalist'?

It wasn't just the serbs who wanted the A-H's to FOF who helpfully annexed (stole) Bosnia officially in 1908, but most slavs who wanted the A-H's to FOF.

The British did their best to keep the Balkans under the Ottomans and the Hapsburgs because they preferred repression of the slavs before letting the Russians anywhere near Constantinople. For the same reason, in 1851, the British and the French save the bankrupt Ottoman empire (which would otherwise have collapsed and freed the slaves from the Ottoman grip) and set up the First Ottoman bank allowing them to kill ever larger numbers of armenians and others for long enough until the Germans took over sponsorship. There is so much blood on British and western hands, but hey, it is easier for them to just blame the local savages. As Usual.

Such spite our enemies have towards us. Bosniaks hate Serbs yet want to be in one "country" with them just to avoid RS joining Serbia-proper.

You guys (albs-bos-cros) make no sense. It's ok to divide the lines by ethnicity when it suits you but not ok for Serbs. Then you complain about the "attrocities" committed against you... LOL LOL-indeed.

" "The First World War did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Germany declared war on Russia, and attacked Belgium. The war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Austria-Hungary attacked Serbia," he explained. "

WW1 did start in Sarajavo. It started when Austria-Hungary delclared War on Serbia after Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip and his Black Hand friends assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajavo. This in turn caused Russia to delcare War on Asutria-Hungary as Russia was an ally of Serbia. Austria-Hungary like Germany were members of the Triple Alliance along with Italy (who decided not to honour the alliance), therefore when Russia declared War on Austria-Hungary; this triggered Germany into declaring War on Russia in defence of their ally Austria-Hungary. As Russia was a member of the Triple Entente, this triggered France and the UK into declaring War on Austria-Hungary and Germany in defence of their ally Russia.

There is no point in blaming any one party/ faction for WW1 as it was going to happen anyway due to the the arms race, the formation of alliances and political tensions in the build up to 1914 such as France having beef with Germany for annexing Alsace-Lorraine from France during the Franco-Prussian war 40 years previously.

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand just triggered a war which was going to happen anyway.

Cedomir Antic is a libertarian weirdo who few people should take seriously. He's not someone who I think should get much respect. He is nationalistic to some extent, but in general I say that he should be discarded for his libertarian fundamentalism which is dangerous for any developing country. What is going on here is merely his attempt to try to be heard, for alas he and his organization are marginal and always will be.

Bosniaks don’t hate Serbs they hate thugs dressed up as politicians or criminals dressed up as ‘liberators’ or propaganda-pulp-fed -slow – wits dressed up as ‘nationalists’ none of whom can see the forest because they burnt down all the trees - it’s just that a great many of the former happened to be members of the RS survive at all costs clan. As in so many cases the real enemy of the Serbs is ultimately a Serb with a knife in one hand and a book in the other.

"... Antić said it will be a revisionist attempt related to the history of the First World War. The First World War did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Germany declared war on Russia, and attacked Belgium. The war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Austria-Hungary attacked Serbia," he explained."

Now that he knows so much about 'revisionist attempts', why does he come up with a revisionist statement like this?

Bosniaks don’t hate Serbs they hate thugs dressed up as politicians or criminals dressed up as ‘liberators’ or propaganda-pulp-fed -slow – wits dressed up as ‘nationalists’ none of whom can see the forest because they burnt down all the trees - it’s just that a great many of the former happened to be members of the RS survive at all costs clan. As in so many cases the real enemy of the Serbs is ultimately a Serb with a knife in one hand and a book in the other.
(iko)

So let RS go, so you can live in peace in your multi-ethnic Bosna

" "The First World War did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Germany declared war on Russia, and attacked Belgium. The war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Austria-Hungary attacked Serbia," he explained. "

WW1 did start in Sarajavo. It started when Austria-Hungary delclared War on Serbia after Serb nationalist Gavrilo Princip and his Black Hand friends assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajavo. This in turn caused Russia to delcare War on Asutria-Hungary as Russia was an ally of Serbia. Austria-Hungary like Germany were members of the Triple Alliance along with Italy (who decided not to honour the alliance), therefore when Russia declared War on Austria-Hungary; this triggered Germany into declaring War on Russia in defence of their ally Austria-Hungary. As Russia was a member of the Triple Entente, this triggered France and the UK into declaring War on Austria-Hungary and Germany in defence of their ally Russia.

There is no point in blaming any one party/ faction for WW1 as it was going to happen anyway due to the the arms race, the formation of alliances and political tensions in the build up to 1914 such as France having beef with Germany for annexing Alsace-Lorraine from France during the Franco-Prussian war 40 years previously.

The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand just triggered a war which was going to happen anyway.

Cedomir Antic is a libertarian weirdo who few people should take seriously. He's not someone who I think should get much respect. He is nationalistic to some extent, but in general I say that he should be discarded for his libertarian fundamentalism which is dangerous for any developing country. What is going on here is merely his attempt to try to be heard, for alas he and his organization are marginal and always will be.

Such spite our enemies have towards us. Bosniaks hate Serbs yet want to be in one "country" with them just to avoid RS joining Serbia-proper.

You guys (albs-bos-cros) make no sense. It's ok to divide the lines by ethnicity when it suits you but not ok for Serbs. Then you complain about the "attrocities" committed against you... LOL LOL-indeed.

Bosniaks don’t hate Serbs they hate thugs dressed up as politicians or criminals dressed up as ‘liberators’ or propaganda-pulp-fed -slow – wits dressed up as ‘nationalists’ none of whom can see the forest because they burnt down all the trees - it’s just that a great many of the former happened to be members of the RS survive at all costs clan. As in so many cases the real enemy of the Serbs is ultimately a Serb with a knife in one hand and a book in the other.

Sloppy history Ian, sloppy.

One of the Black Hand tasked with the assassination was:

"The first conspirator on the route to see the royal car was Bosniak Muhamed Mehmedbašic. Standing by the Austro-Hungarian Bank, Mehmedbašic lost his nerve and allowed the car to pass without taking action. Mehmedbašic later said that a policeman was standing behind him and feared he would be arrested before he had a chance to throw his bomb."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip#Assassination_of_the_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand

Did you get the clue? It's in the name, Muhamed Mehmedbašic. Is that what you call a 'serb nationalist'?

It wasn't just the serbs who wanted the A-H's to FOF who helpfully annexed (stole) Bosnia officially in 1908, but most slavs who wanted the A-H's to FOF.

The British did their best to keep the Balkans under the Ottomans and the Hapsburgs because they preferred repression of the slavs before letting the Russians anywhere near Constantinople. For the same reason, in 1851, the British and the French save the bankrupt Ottoman empire (which would otherwise have collapsed and freed the slaves from the Ottoman grip) and set up the First Ottoman bank allowing them to kill ever larger numbers of armenians and others for long enough until the Germans took over sponsorship. There is so much blood on British and western hands, but hey, it is easier for them to just blame the local savages. As Usual.

Bosniaks don’t hate Serbs they hate thugs dressed up as politicians or criminals dressed up as ‘liberators’ or propaganda-pulp-fed -slow – wits dressed up as ‘nationalists’ none of whom can see the forest because they burnt down all the trees - it’s just that a great many of the former happened to be members of the RS survive at all costs clan. As in so many cases the real enemy of the Serbs is ultimately a Serb with a knife in one hand and a book in the other.
(iko)

So let RS go, so you can live in peace in your multi-ethnic Bosna

"... Antić said it will be a revisionist attempt related to the history of the First World War. The First World War did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Germany declared war on Russia, and attacked Belgium. The war between Austria-Hungary and Serbia did not start in Sarajevo - it started when Austria-Hungary attacked Serbia," he explained."

Now that he knows so much about 'revisionist attempts', why does he come up with a revisionist statement like this?