"Green light" for EU talks would leave Serbia "cheated"

Oh the chameleon Serbia, never changing her ways, always trying to acheive her illicit goals by way of deceit! I am just waiting, waiting for the moment when this chameleon finally takes the bait!!! This present point in history, is really going to be a lot of fun!!!

We beat them and they know it and it still bothers them. Man to man we were and are better. But that is the past for us. We would like, and need, to be on good terms. If they can't grow up, well the whole region will stagnate. The Serbian hand of friendship is always out, even after everything. Strange, Serbia is more mature than Germany.
(Jeff, 10 June 2013 14:40)

YOU beat Germany? When and where? Not the Russians, the Brits or the Americans but YOU? According to what history book?

"..when we will get one..." as soon as Serbia formally recognise Kosovo independence....and stop cheattig EU. Why the last Ohrid international meeting failed? I have few more questions to ask....about how genuine Serbia is....

Serbia and its citizens expect recognition to come from the EU in the form of a clearly and precisely specified date for the start of Serbia's EU accession talks, as they have patiently supported the EU integration process for 12 years, said Grubješić.
Well, Ms. Grubješić, that is not entirely true. Do you not think that the EU follows what is going on Serbia's politics, and what it's politicians say? Your bosses, Vucic, Nikolic, and Dacic, not to long ago proclaimed that they would never ever even talk to the Albanians, and that if anyone conferred with them, they would be labelled as traitors. Remember the stink from them when Tadic dared to shake Thaci's hand? And no, this bunch of turncoats in power today were very ant-EU just a few short years ago. For Christ's sake, they are socialists and former radicals. They chirp the EU tune today because they are bankrupt, and have no other avenue to pursue. Believe me, if they still had a massive army, and Russian backing militarily, they would be amassed on the North side of the Ibar right now, waiting for Vucic to give the thumbs down sign. Thank God those days are over for these boys.

Serbia won't get a date for EU talks until they implement the deal which they signed.

If Serbia doesn't get a date, they can only blame themselves for not implementing the agreement.

I expected nothing less. The Germans have a problem with us. We beat them and they know it and it still bothers them. Man to man we were and are better. But that is the past for us. We would like, and need, to be on good terms. If they can't grow up, well the whole region will stagnate. The Serbian hand of friendship is always out, even after everything. Strange, Serbia is more mature than Germany.

I think that Dacic should go to Zagreb on 30 June and attend the EU Party.

Dacic,are you blind?Are you on drugs?Or are you really a Serb?What will it take for you to get off your knee{s} and tell the EU,Germany,and the Croats to stick it up.

Does anyone else get tired of the "Serbia being cheated" or "Serbia deserves" like they have really done something monumental. They have "agreed" to some day implement some terms, but they give no date as to when that will happen. But they want a date as a reward. They agreed to the border management but yet Eulex must take the Albanians to the gates via helicopter daily. They walked out of the meeting and immediately blocked Kosovo from a regional meeting.
The EU should point an overseer and say the date for Serbia will be the date that all agreements have been implemented and signed off by the overseer but with the stipulation that they can be suspended any time a road block goes up or Serbia renigs on any part of the agreement.

"Dacic,are you blind?Are you on drugs?Or are you really a Serb?What will it take for you to get off your knee{s} and tell the EU,Germany,and the Croats to stick it up."
(Pete K., 10 June 2013 13:55)

Thats easier said than done. If Serbia had the resources say of China or Russia then it sure can tell EU to mind its own business. However if you are broke and bleeding from every angle then you have no choice but do as told. Yeah... I forgot that Serbias pride stands in its way but if Serbia wants to get into the EU then it has to check the pride at the door and do as told. Also another thing EU or US for that matter simply do not trust Serbia as far too many times in the recent history it has signed one thing and did a complete opposite in the field. Perfect example is the Ohrid Regional Meeting. You dont think that Serbias action went unnotice dont you! Nccccc, not a good start. When are Serbias politicians going to grow up and act as statesman not just for sole benefit of the Serbian people but for the benefit of the entire region.

Sounds reasonable. I don't think any other countries had so much trouble entering the EU. Many countries have internal border problems i.e. Cyprus Spain and the political corruption in some Eastern European countries is way worse than Serbia.

At this point in time, there is nothing else that Serbia can do. And not granting it a date would definitely be 'cheating'. I mean some countries had the whole process of entering the EU much easier than Serbia just getting a 'date'. I mean seriously, it is just a date at the end of the day. But the EU would rather give a date for the date. I lost count of how many dates there are to reach the final actual date to be fair. It almost sounds like childish mind games.

If the EU doesn't want or is unable to have Serbia in the EU at this point in time, it should not give promises it cannot fulfil. Simple.

It's not as though this is the first time a country's been given a conditional date, grow up. Albania has been put on hold a couple of times, even Montenegro had its start delayed, essentially as a sop to Serbia. And let's not even think about Macedonia. None of them carried on like Serbia but buckled down to deal with problems.

“We do not need excuses about why something cannot be done: because one country, Germany, enters the (election) campaign or because the (EU) enlargement issue it unpopular." - sound and clear

The EU has cheated Serbia already long ago and continues to this day.

Any intelligent Serb would be against this whole process and see its' damaging effects up to now, True Serbs do not want the EU under these strenuous conditions - this is not how you "form a family". Also it is beyond any question that Serbia has much more important issues that need adressing, rather than fullfilling conditions (jumping hoops) for the EU.

How can any of you Europeans no matter where you from be supportive of such a machine, the EU? Taker-of sovereignty. Nations are falling apart under the guise of "European family", only money/economics gets to keep the quasi-image through the mainstream in place and when that goes it's all over.

Look at Croatia, they never gained independence, since they left Yugoslavia they've had their hand held by American, British and German "consultants", kind of like how Tony Blair now is going to "consult" for Albania. Most Croats hate the idea of the EU and see the damages that will be coming, yet look at Mircea HA-HA-HA, an Albanian being the most excited about it. This is what the EU is about, when foreigners of your country have a heavier say than yourself!

Serbia won't get a date for EU talks until they implement the deal which they signed.

If Serbia doesn't get a date, they can only blame themselves for not implementing the agreement.
(Ian, UK, 10 June 2013 14:35)

To implement "the deal" means to dismantle Serbian institutions in the North. Is it what you want? Some people keep saying that the only western goal was to liberate poor Albanians from wicked Milosevic, is dismantling of Serbian institution part of this noble goal?

... And did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here.

The Pink Floyd

"It's not as though this is the first time a country's been given a conditional date, grow up. Albania has been put on hold a couple of times, even Montenegro had its start delayed, essentially as a sop to Serbia. And let's not even think about Macedonia. None of them carried on like Serbia but buckled down to deal with problems."
(Amer, 10 June 2013 15:05)

You're very correct. Another issue is that Romania and Bulgaria were granted EU membership without completing changes needed to ensure democracy, human rights and the rule of law. As a result, they're still dealing with judicial reform, corruption and organized crime. The EU doesn't want to make this mistake again, and is requiring concrete changes and not just "promises" from future candidates.

"In future accessions, every effort must be made to ensure that all reforms are irreversible prior to accession, as post-accession mechanisms are both undesirable and unlikely to prove effective."

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/06/european-union_n_2817110.html

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force him to drink. However, if he does not drink the water, the horse will probably die. It amazes me that Serbia hasn't thought out, thoroughly, what is in store for them if they don't drink the water.

Thank you EU (Germany). Serbia doesn't deserve better.

One thing is being demanded. Serbia completely and totally recognize in a totally formal way Kosova independence. Turn the liaison officer into an ambassador! The duties are already the same. The administrative line guards and stamp people turn them into border guards and customs agents. Serbia is just so close to EU membership! Just change some words.

North Korea will get EU talks before Serbia..

Danilo said, "Find me a Bulgarian or Romanian that thinks joining the EU was a bad idea."

I visited Romania in 2010 and I found several Romanians who believed that joining the EU was a mistake. Their quality of life has diminished not improved.

I personally know American citizens, born in Romania, who call their parents weekly and visit Romania annually. They financially support their family members in Romania because, as they said, their lives have never been more difficult.

Since you find Serbia such a vile place to live, Danilo, move to Romania ... and take your chronic negativity with you.

In Vucic we trust. He will sort out everything, have no doubt!

"I have omitted Bulgaria and Romania in this comparison because they along with Serbia were former east block countries. The average per capita income in the above mentioned countries is between 500- 600 euros monthly which is comparable to Serbia. "


Choosing to compare Serbia to countries unlike it and going out of your way to not compare countries in a similar situation is foolish.

5-600 euros/month isn't "similar" to Serbia, it's DOUBLE.... and triple their standard before they joined the EU.

Find me a Bulgarian or Romanian that thinks joining the EU was a bad idea.

The EU doesn't want Serbia - it prefers to have Serbia lunging at the elusive carrots. The EU has gotten Serbia to do so many things it wants - things which aren't good for Serbia (it's people, economy, etc.) - and they only give back false promises and more demands.
Why is Serbia doing so much for the EU and following its dictates when it's not even in the EU? There's no incentive for bringing Serbia into the EU when it can get its way with Serbia even though Serbia's outside it.

Lenard said ... "The heavenly people as they make their way through stationments of Serb glories losing ways."

Stationments???? hahahahhah

(aaayyy, 10 June 2013 20:55)

No, I've said on many occasions that Serbia should fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia and recognise the independence of Kosovo south of the Ibar River in return for a fully autonomous Serb entity south of the Ibar River.

However this doesn't change the fact that Serbia made an agreement with Kosovo in return for EU talk dates and now they're complaining that they aren't getting EU talk dates, despite the fact they haven't even tried to implement what was agreed. If Serbia actually did what it agreed to, it would get these EU talk dates. If Serbia isn't going to implement what it agreed to, then it shouldn't have agreed to it in the first place; refusal to implement what it agreed to to shows to the EU that Serbia cannot be trusted.

And as to the situation of Serbs in Northern Kosovo, the only people who benefit from this is the fat cat politicians in Belgrade, not the EU, NATO and Pristina. Politicians in Belgrade are able to exploit the situation of the self-isolationist Serbs in Northern Kosovo to serve for their own Political Interests as they pretend to care for the Northern Kosovo Serbs to win votes at election time as they're career politicians and that is all they care about, money and remaining in power. Also the situation of Serbs in Northern Kosovo is the perfect smokescreen to hide all of Serbia's problems under the rug and not make the ruling Politicians look bad in the media.

I am aware of the fact that as a citizen of the USA I probably have no right to advise the Serbian people as to what to do, however human nature being what it is. tells us that the more you push people around, the way Serbian government is allowing it's self to be pushed by Germany, the more they will push and demand more
It is obvious by the conditions in Portugal, Spain, Greece and soon Italy that EU membership will not be an improvement over present conditions in Serbia. I have omitted Bulgaria and Romania in this comparison because they along with Serbia were former east block countries. The average per capita income in the above mentioned countries is between 500- 600 euros monthly which is comparable to Serbia.
So in the final analysis what is the point of bending over and allowing yourselves to be taken advantage of in this way

Why this urge to join this union? Serbia should take an example out of Turkey they are waiting 60 years for this green light and still no member of the EU.. Talks or no talks just freeze this. And if the EU is still alive in over 20 years perhaps then a opportunity will arise to join. When Serbia is a stronger country!

North Korea will get EU talks before Serbia..
(Darko, 11 June 2013 05:18)

Also, now joining the EU and all, the Croats will puff upwards and become taller than the North Koreans.

"Green light" for EU talks would leave Serbia "cheated". Poor Serbs always cheated robed victimized the perpetual living embodiment of innocents. They relish wallow in the cross they must bear through no fault of their own if you can believe it. The heavenly people as they make their way through stationments of Serb glories losing ways.

@ Danilo
The bulgarians selfimmolating ( setting themselves on fire) in the streets

Serbia is the one who is cheating.

Germany was laud and clear "No EU if Serbia doesn't fulfill an agreement they singed in Brussels"

Cheers on that

Funny how the Serbs are expected to implement vaguely worded deals that allow the Germans to add extra condition that aren't 'conditions' at will and reinterpret what is already signed in a way that it barely resembles the words of the original agreement.

We've seen the same in Bosnia where the west has been pushing Bosnia to reform, which by 'reform' it means dismantling the Dayton Agreement and having the RS full subsumed by the M-C Federation. They have tried this a number of times, from firing everyone who doesn't toe the line (Paddy 'Pantsdown' Ashdown) to lying about the contents of Dayton.

It is the same game being played over and over again. Sign something, then pretend it means something else. The Western states are as much guilty, if not more than Belgrade, Pristina, Sarajevo etc. It's a fu*#)(ng joke.

Oh the chameleon Serbia, never changing her ways, always trying to acheive her illicit goals by way of deceit! I am just waiting, waiting for the moment when this chameleon finally takes the bait!!! This present point in history, is really going to be a lot of fun!!!

"..when we will get one..." as soon as Serbia formally recognise Kosovo independence....and stop cheattig EU. Why the last Ohrid international meeting failed? I have few more questions to ask....about how genuine Serbia is....

I think that Dacic should go to Zagreb on 30 June and attend the EU Party.

Serbia won't get a date for EU talks until they implement the deal which they signed.

If Serbia doesn't get a date, they can only blame themselves for not implementing the agreement.

I expected nothing less. The Germans have a problem with us. We beat them and they know it and it still bothers them. Man to man we were and are better. But that is the past for us. We would like, and need, to be on good terms. If they can't grow up, well the whole region will stagnate. The Serbian hand of friendship is always out, even after everything. Strange, Serbia is more mature than Germany.

Dacic,are you blind?Are you on drugs?Or are you really a Serb?What will it take for you to get off your knee{s} and tell the EU,Germany,and the Croats to stick it up.

... And did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have you found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here.

The Pink Floyd

We beat them and they know it and it still bothers them. Man to man we were and are better. But that is the past for us. We would like, and need, to be on good terms. If they can't grow up, well the whole region will stagnate. The Serbian hand of friendship is always out, even after everything. Strange, Serbia is more mature than Germany.
(Jeff, 10 June 2013 14:40)

YOU beat Germany? When and where? Not the Russians, the Brits or the Americans but YOU? According to what history book?

Sounds reasonable. I don't think any other countries had so much trouble entering the EU. Many countries have internal border problems i.e. Cyprus Spain and the political corruption in some Eastern European countries is way worse than Serbia.

At this point in time, there is nothing else that Serbia can do. And not granting it a date would definitely be 'cheating'. I mean some countries had the whole process of entering the EU much easier than Serbia just getting a 'date'. I mean seriously, it is just a date at the end of the day. But the EU would rather give a date for the date. I lost count of how many dates there are to reach the final actual date to be fair. It almost sounds like childish mind games.

If the EU doesn't want or is unable to have Serbia in the EU at this point in time, it should not give promises it cannot fulfil. Simple.

In Vucic we trust. He will sort out everything, have no doubt!

"Dacic,are you blind?Are you on drugs?Or are you really a Serb?What will it take for you to get off your knee{s} and tell the EU,Germany,and the Croats to stick it up."
(Pete K., 10 June 2013 13:55)

Thats easier said than done. If Serbia had the resources say of China or Russia then it sure can tell EU to mind its own business. However if you are broke and bleeding from every angle then you have no choice but do as told. Yeah... I forgot that Serbias pride stands in its way but if Serbia wants to get into the EU then it has to check the pride at the door and do as told. Also another thing EU or US for that matter simply do not trust Serbia as far too many times in the recent history it has signed one thing and did a complete opposite in the field. Perfect example is the Ohrid Regional Meeting. You dont think that Serbias action went unnotice dont you! Nccccc, not a good start. When are Serbias politicians going to grow up and act as statesman not just for sole benefit of the Serbian people but for the benefit of the entire region.

It's not as though this is the first time a country's been given a conditional date, grow up. Albania has been put on hold a couple of times, even Montenegro had its start delayed, essentially as a sop to Serbia. And let's not even think about Macedonia. None of them carried on like Serbia but buckled down to deal with problems.

Does anyone else get tired of the "Serbia being cheated" or "Serbia deserves" like they have really done something monumental. They have "agreed" to some day implement some terms, but they give no date as to when that will happen. But they want a date as a reward. They agreed to the border management but yet Eulex must take the Albanians to the gates via helicopter daily. They walked out of the meeting and immediately blocked Kosovo from a regional meeting.
The EU should point an overseer and say the date for Serbia will be the date that all agreements have been implemented and signed off by the overseer but with the stipulation that they can be suspended any time a road block goes up or Serbia renigs on any part of the agreement.

Serbia won't get a date for EU talks until they implement the deal which they signed.

If Serbia doesn't get a date, they can only blame themselves for not implementing the agreement.
(Ian, UK, 10 June 2013 14:35)

To implement "the deal" means to dismantle Serbian institutions in the North. Is it what you want? Some people keep saying that the only western goal was to liberate poor Albanians from wicked Milosevic, is dismantling of Serbian institution part of this noble goal?

One thing is being demanded. Serbia completely and totally recognize in a totally formal way Kosova independence. Turn the liaison officer into an ambassador! The duties are already the same. The administrative line guards and stamp people turn them into border guards and customs agents. Serbia is just so close to EU membership! Just change some words.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force him to drink. However, if he does not drink the water, the horse will probably die. It amazes me that Serbia hasn't thought out, thoroughly, what is in store for them if they don't drink the water.

“We do not need excuses about why something cannot be done: because one country, Germany, enters the (election) campaign or because the (EU) enlargement issue it unpopular." - sound and clear

The EU has cheated Serbia already long ago and continues to this day.

Any intelligent Serb would be against this whole process and see its' damaging effects up to now, True Serbs do not want the EU under these strenuous conditions - this is not how you "form a family". Also it is beyond any question that Serbia has much more important issues that need adressing, rather than fullfilling conditions (jumping hoops) for the EU.

How can any of you Europeans no matter where you from be supportive of such a machine, the EU? Taker-of sovereignty. Nations are falling apart under the guise of "European family", only money/economics gets to keep the quasi-image through the mainstream in place and when that goes it's all over.

Look at Croatia, they never gained independence, since they left Yugoslavia they've had their hand held by American, British and German "consultants", kind of like how Tony Blair now is going to "consult" for Albania. Most Croats hate the idea of the EU and see the damages that will be coming, yet look at Mircea HA-HA-HA, an Albanian being the most excited about it. This is what the EU is about, when foreigners of your country have a heavier say than yourself!

"Green light" for EU talks would leave Serbia "cheated". Poor Serbs always cheated robed victimized the perpetual living embodiment of innocents. They relish wallow in the cross they must bear through no fault of their own if you can believe it. The heavenly people as they make their way through stationments of Serb glories losing ways.

Thank you EU (Germany). Serbia doesn't deserve better.

"I have omitted Bulgaria and Romania in this comparison because they along with Serbia were former east block countries. The average per capita income in the above mentioned countries is between 500- 600 euros monthly which is comparable to Serbia. "


Choosing to compare Serbia to countries unlike it and going out of your way to not compare countries in a similar situation is foolish.

5-600 euros/month isn't "similar" to Serbia, it's DOUBLE.... and triple their standard before they joined the EU.

Find me a Bulgarian or Romanian that thinks joining the EU was a bad idea.

Serbia and its citizens expect recognition to come from the EU in the form of a clearly and precisely specified date for the start of Serbia's EU accession talks, as they have patiently supported the EU integration process for 12 years, said Grubješić.
Well, Ms. Grubješić, that is not entirely true. Do you not think that the EU follows what is going on Serbia's politics, and what it's politicians say? Your bosses, Vucic, Nikolic, and Dacic, not to long ago proclaimed that they would never ever even talk to the Albanians, and that if anyone conferred with them, they would be labelled as traitors. Remember the stink from them when Tadic dared to shake Thaci's hand? And no, this bunch of turncoats in power today were very ant-EU just a few short years ago. For Christ's sake, they are socialists and former radicals. They chirp the EU tune today because they are bankrupt, and have no other avenue to pursue. Believe me, if they still had a massive army, and Russian backing militarily, they would be amassed on the North side of the Ibar right now, waiting for Vucic to give the thumbs down sign. Thank God those days are over for these boys.

Danilo said, "Find me a Bulgarian or Romanian that thinks joining the EU was a bad idea."

I visited Romania in 2010 and I found several Romanians who believed that joining the EU was a mistake. Their quality of life has diminished not improved.

I personally know American citizens, born in Romania, who call their parents weekly and visit Romania annually. They financially support their family members in Romania because, as they said, their lives have never been more difficult.

Since you find Serbia such a vile place to live, Danilo, move to Romania ... and take your chronic negativity with you.

Serbia is the one who is cheating.

Germany was laud and clear "No EU if Serbia doesn't fulfill an agreement they singed in Brussels"

Cheers on that

I am aware of the fact that as a citizen of the USA I probably have no right to advise the Serbian people as to what to do, however human nature being what it is. tells us that the more you push people around, the way Serbian government is allowing it's self to be pushed by Germany, the more they will push and demand more
It is obvious by the conditions in Portugal, Spain, Greece and soon Italy that EU membership will not be an improvement over present conditions in Serbia. I have omitted Bulgaria and Romania in this comparison because they along with Serbia were former east block countries. The average per capita income in the above mentioned countries is between 500- 600 euros monthly which is comparable to Serbia.
So in the final analysis what is the point of bending over and allowing yourselves to be taken advantage of in this way

North Korea will get EU talks before Serbia..
(Darko, 11 June 2013 05:18)

Also, now joining the EU and all, the Croats will puff upwards and become taller than the North Koreans.

"It's not as though this is the first time a country's been given a conditional date, grow up. Albania has been put on hold a couple of times, even Montenegro had its start delayed, essentially as a sop to Serbia. And let's not even think about Macedonia. None of them carried on like Serbia but buckled down to deal with problems."
(Amer, 10 June 2013 15:05)

You're very correct. Another issue is that Romania and Bulgaria were granted EU membership without completing changes needed to ensure democracy, human rights and the rule of law. As a result, they're still dealing with judicial reform, corruption and organized crime. The EU doesn't want to make this mistake again, and is requiring concrete changes and not just "promises" from future candidates.

"In future accessions, every effort must be made to ensure that all reforms are irreversible prior to accession, as post-accession mechanisms are both undesirable and unlikely to prove effective."

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/06/european-union_n_2817110.html

Why this urge to join this union? Serbia should take an example out of Turkey they are waiting 60 years for this green light and still no member of the EU.. Talks or no talks just freeze this. And if the EU is still alive in over 20 years perhaps then a opportunity will arise to join. When Serbia is a stronger country!

Lenard said ... "The heavenly people as they make their way through stationments of Serb glories losing ways."

Stationments???? hahahahhah

(aaayyy, 10 June 2013 20:55)

No, I've said on many occasions that Serbia should fully integrate Northern Kosovo into Serbia and recognise the independence of Kosovo south of the Ibar River in return for a fully autonomous Serb entity south of the Ibar River.

However this doesn't change the fact that Serbia made an agreement with Kosovo in return for EU talk dates and now they're complaining that they aren't getting EU talk dates, despite the fact they haven't even tried to implement what was agreed. If Serbia actually did what it agreed to, it would get these EU talk dates. If Serbia isn't going to implement what it agreed to, then it shouldn't have agreed to it in the first place; refusal to implement what it agreed to to shows to the EU that Serbia cannot be trusted.

And as to the situation of Serbs in Northern Kosovo, the only people who benefit from this is the fat cat politicians in Belgrade, not the EU, NATO and Pristina. Politicians in Belgrade are able to exploit the situation of the self-isolationist Serbs in Northern Kosovo to serve for their own Political Interests as they pretend to care for the Northern Kosovo Serbs to win votes at election time as they're career politicians and that is all they care about, money and remaining in power. Also the situation of Serbs in Northern Kosovo is the perfect smokescreen to hide all of Serbia's problems under the rug and not make the ruling Politicians look bad in the media.

The EU doesn't want Serbia - it prefers to have Serbia lunging at the elusive carrots. The EU has gotten Serbia to do so many things it wants - things which aren't good for Serbia (it's people, economy, etc.) - and they only give back false promises and more demands.
Why is Serbia doing so much for the EU and following its dictates when it's not even in the EU? There's no incentive for bringing Serbia into the EU when it can get its way with Serbia even though Serbia's outside it.

North Korea will get EU talks before Serbia..

@ Danilo
The bulgarians selfimmolating ( setting themselves on fire) in the streets

Funny how the Serbs are expected to implement vaguely worded deals that allow the Germans to add extra condition that aren't 'conditions' at will and reinterpret what is already signed in a way that it barely resembles the words of the original agreement.

We've seen the same in Bosnia where the west has been pushing Bosnia to reform, which by 'reform' it means dismantling the Dayton Agreement and having the RS full subsumed by the M-C Federation. They have tried this a number of times, from firing everyone who doesn't toe the line (Paddy 'Pantsdown' Ashdown) to lying about the contents of Dayton.

It is the same game being played over and over again. Sign something, then pretend it means something else. The Western states are as much guilty, if not more than Belgrade, Pristina, Sarajevo etc. It's a fu*#)(ng joke.