This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
(mario, 3 May 2013 17:21) its funny how you Albanians come on b92 and pretend to be someone else because its true, I have many Croat friends and they don't go on b92 nor any site but Croatian lol so reality is Serbs and Croats are moving forward and you Albanians live like your Turk masters of 500 years ago....
njegos--I will answer you. Since I have already lost a couple of minutes of my precious life to I read your sh#t you wrote, I'll spend a few minutes to answer you.
1, (you will only see the boots of your masters) is this from yours experience? you watch the boots of Turks for 500 years. Since you know so much of the past, are you sure you're not a Turk ore perhaps a Gypsy. Serbs history for the Serbs, by the Serbs! For you Serbs history is always different than the history for the whole world! I ask you, why are you're breaking your legs to enter the EU with the Germans when you hate them so much.
2. If the Croats were puppet state during WWII so were you Serbs Cetniks.
3. (What happened to Croats in Herceg Bosna) the same thing that happened to Croats in Vojvodina i Zemun and the same thing that happened to you Serbs in Kosovo.
4. (And for your one more question) cowards! your Serb Communist Army, killed 15,000 Croatians and forcibly displaced, "cleansed," some 220,000 Croats from about one-third of Croatian territory, 4000 are still missing. 600 Croatian Churches as well as 70 Monasteries destroyed. 210 libraries, you killed 22 press agents, who were trying to reveal the truth about the Serbs aggression. Croatians should indeed be proud of their own liberation from such a hell.
From Mario: "We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!"
Hey Mario, I've got news for you, no matter how much Croats look ahead as you say, you will only see the boots of your masters marching in front of you. From the Austro-Hungarian Empire to the satellite Nazi puppet state during WWII to your current position as water carriers for the US & Germany, Croatia has, and always will be servants to others. Such a proud history!
And I love the way you guys constantly refer to Greater Serbia. What happened to Herceg Bosna, aka Greater Croatia? Remember Mario? Didn't quite pan out did it? Now the Croat population is down to 11% from 22% before the war of the 90s. Soon there won't be any Croats left in BH. Just think, the birthplace of the Ustasha movement without Croats. You keep moving ahead Mario. Let us all know how those German boots taste.
Oh, one more question Mario, you mention manipulation and lies. Why did the Croatian gov't. spend millions of dollars on US PR firms like Hill & Knowlton and Ruder Finn to manipulate he western press? If you guys were in the right, why would you need to stoop to such tactics? Can't wait to here back from you Mario.
This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years.
I sure hope so, its time for you to suffer because of all the harm and violence you have been breeding allower the world for the last 100 years. Everything you do you do because of your own interests and then you say you give people "freedom". I bet the vietnamese love you way of freedom, just like the cubans, nicaraguans, iraqis, syrians and all other you have been murdering in order to enrichen yourself.
If Croatia and Slovenia wanted to go, which they did, why didn't Serbia let them go? Why? Economic interests is why. Those two republics made up 70% go the Yugoslavian budget. It had nothing to with protecting rights of Serbs or anything like that. Did croatia return to some Nazi puppet state? No. Would serbs living there be better off now if there was no war, no Vukovar and no sanctions. of corse, even if they left because of a hostile Croat government or whatever they would still have left on their own terms. selling their belongings and choosing to leave. they would be no worse off! Instead when Croatia decided to leave they calmored for war, demanded arms and said this is Serbia! just like albanians did, so we know who openned pandoras box. maybe they were encouraged by Milosevic, maybe mislead or maybr just exploited but we can take this our foolish mistake and ignorance gaetting the best of us. We fought wars destroyed our reputation and our economy. We were the allies of the west but after the wars we were pariah state like North Korea or Syria. It lead to the disintegration of Yugoslavia and loss of Kosovo. Are we better off? Of corse not. We are millions of times worse. Now they look down on us as primitive animals and it is our fault for following the path our leaders laid for us. Path to destruction and poverty.
...and yet another mass grave of non-serbs is found in Croatia - here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317590/Slaughterhouse-Sotin-Mass-grave-Croatia-finally-solves-mystery-people-taken-away-middle-night-Serbs.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Has Serbia found any mass graves on it's territory? I wound who the non-serbs were? If the victims are described as non serbs were the executioners Serbs? I am sure Serbs will some justification for the killing or better yet will twist the story and claim the executioners were victims of the victims. Go for it...all in the name of Greater Serbia.
the region of krajina should return to the Serbs and get independence if they wish, Istria and Dalmatia is Italian lands and is going back slowly which is great to see. Zagreb will be Croatia in the near future because the croats owes Germany and the other nations for getting the Serbs to leave it had nothing to do with the croat army that's for sure. Soon as Croatia joins the EU it will start. The only thing the croat army did was kill old and woman and kids because the croats were scared to fight fighters, its easy to kill defenceless. And for you on here talking about Serbia and blah bah blah well Serbs are majority everywhere but Kosovo. Even in sandzak the population is 50% muslim and 50% serbs .....
They would only be countless to someone who can't count. And how can a Serb's "homeland" be in Croatia?
(Yellow Doorman, 2 May 2013 12:49)
Typical of Croat lies. I remember once reading in an Artentine journal some Croats cackling, "We are like Jews", pretending that Serbs were murdering them like you and your Nazi brothers did. You guys won't stop at anything.
Croats drove out countless Serbs from the Serbs' homeland. They also murdered innocent civilians. Yet, they don't have to pay for their crimes. Nor did they pay for their crimes during WWII. How sad. Yet, on this site, trashy Albanians keep on stepping up and writing utter lies about their history, pretending this and that about what they did. The fact is that they did and are doing nothing. Without the US, you would be nothing. All you do is beg and steal. If it was not for stealing and begging to your masters, you would have nothing. It's not like I open the paper every day and read that some Albanian accomplished anything. Grow up and maybe one day you will be as successful as the least successful Serb, and without stealing or begging.
Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic once said' Serbs in Krajina are a massive burden to the Serb people they are sucking the Serbian economy bone dry'. I must congratulate the Krajina Serbs. How a group of uneducated drunken peasants held out for so long is beyond me. The world doesn't care about Serb victims you arent Jewish. Get over it and move on. Just remember that the Serbs had an opportunity to create a peaceful solution but no..Gospodin Milan Martic wanted it all.
"After a mass for Croatian victims, President Ivo Josipović, a government delegation headed by Prime Minister Zoran Milanović and a delegation of the Croatian parliament laid wreaths and lit candles at the Central Cross in the Memorial Park of Croatian Knights."
As well as the above delegations, I wonder why B92 in their article failed to mention that the ceremony in Okucani, Croatia was also attended by a delegation of the Serb Democratic Forum?!?!?!
It is a sad fact that in the preceeding 4 years before Operation Flash, the serbs brutally killed, tortured, raped and expelled ALL non-serbian civilians. Those civilians included ethnic Ukrainian and Hungarian residents of Croatia. It is sad and unfortunate that those lucky enough to escape the serb butchers came back 4 years later in 1995 and took revenge. But is this a surprise? Would you not want to take revenge on someone for killing your husband, wife, children.....burning your house and stealing all your posessions? If the world powers had have stopped the serbs, punished them and showed that international justice is not fiction, then returning Croats would not have needed to revenge an injustice. But unfortunately, the serbs at the time were butchering innocent Bosniaks in Srebrenica.....with the world watching and doing nothing. So the serbs have only themselves, and the useless international community to blame.
The only crime bigger than the war crime is the post war one, for which the aggressor is absolved. Let there be no doubt, Serbia is guilt as sin of the massacres in Croatia. You slaughtered enormous numbers in creation of a (GREATER SERBIA), Hate towards Croatia helped you to grow it to the never before remembered heights of violence, hunger for blood, killing, (I try to guess what for). You left Croatia with goods stolen from their Croatian neighbours (whom you have earlier either killed or forced to leave their homes and all posessions). I must ask, who committed the greater crime—the perpetrators Serbian murderers or International Community those who ignore it and enable such aggression.
In response to an earlier comment, Flash and Storm were two different operations. The fighting in early May of 1995 in western Slavonia around Okučani was, indeed, Operation Bljesak (Flash). Operation Oluja (Storm) happened three months later southeast of there in the heartland of the Serbian Krajina. The eighteenth anniversary of Operation Storm will be this coming August 4 through August 7.
Punish the killers on both sides, then forgive each other and live as the brothers and neighbors that you are. Yes, I'm an arrogant American hypocrite. So prove us wrong by caring more about your future than you do about your past. Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years. Or keep fighting your old wars over and over again. Foreigners are always grateful to assimilate your fleeing young talent, then stereotype the rest of you as war-crazed tribal lunatics. Are you brave enough to shame us into silence and respect?
Autonomous province of vojvodina(Hungary) wasnt serb land for over 1000 years what happened to the 350,000 germans? Subotica was founded by croats not serbs FACT, 1900 more croatians lived in subotica than zagreb evey serb knows that! Istria was never italian it was illyrian land inhabitated by the histri FACT and then conquered by romans, if it was there land why did they have to conquer it? In 1910, the ethnic and linguistic composition. According to the Austrian census results (Istria included here parts of the Karst and Liburnia which are not really part of Istria and excluded ancient Istrian parts, like Trieste), out of 404,309 inhabitants in Istria, 168,116 (41.6%) spoke Croatian, 147,416 (36.5%) spoke Italian, 55,365 (13.7%) spoke Slovene, 13,279 (3.3%) spoke German, 882 (0.2%) spoke Romanian, 2,116 (0.5%) spoke other languages and 17,135 (4.2%). The whole montenegrin coast was under italians (venetians), "Monte Negro" means black mountain in Venetian or Monte Nero in italian. Infact montengro coast is considered as dalmatia. Get your facts right about Dalmatia, all of bosnia and parts of montenegro are the province of dalmatia, first settled by croat tribes, sent by the roman emperor heraclius to expel the avars which was succesful and the first croatian king tomislav coronated in bosnia(dalmatia) in 925 (tomislavgrad). The surname bosnjak (bosnian) is croatias 23rd most common surname, Bosna is a illyrian name from the romans , ONLY CROATIANS USED ILLYRIAN NAMES.
All Croats should return to Zemun and get full autonomy as it IS Croatian land, just like Vojvodina is Hungarian and Sandzak is Bosnian and Kosovo is Albanian and Ponisalje is Bulgarian..
Serbia was just Beograd in history..oh wait...the Hungarians built that city too.
all Serbs should return and get full autonomy of the krajina region since it IS Serbian lands and not Croatian lads and it should be pushed for from the people and the UN and the power nations like Russia and china and the others from the bricks....just like Istria is not Croatian lands and Dalmatia those are Italian lands...Croatia was Zagreb in history....
"So far, no one has been held accountable for war crimes against the Serbs"
Nothing new here when it comes to Croatia. Wonder where Lenard is to condem this killing and expulsion of people from their homes? Its a dissgrace to allow the scum behind this crime to remain unpunished. The biggest dissgrace is our government in Belgrade who lick the boots of all those responsible for this and other crimes against serbs and Serbia.
"So far, no one has been held accountable for war crimes against the Serbs"
Nothing new here when it comes to Croatia. Wonder where Lenard is to condem this killing and expulsion of people from their homes? Its a dissgrace to allow the scum behind this crime to remain unpunished. The biggest dissgrace is our government in Belgrade who lick the boots of all those responsible for this and other crimes against serbs and Serbia.
all Serbs should return and get full autonomy of the krajina region since it IS Serbian lands and not Croatian lads and it should be pushed for from the people and the UN and the power nations like Russia and china and the others from the bricks....just like Istria is not Croatian lands and Dalmatia those are Italian lands...Croatia was Zagreb in history....
Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic once said' Serbs in Krajina are a massive burden to the Serb people they are sucking the Serbian economy bone dry'. I must congratulate the Krajina Serbs. How a group of uneducated drunken peasants held out for so long is beyond me. The world doesn't care about Serb victims you arent Jewish. Get over it and move on. Just remember that the Serbs had an opportunity to create a peaceful solution but no..Gospodin Milan Martic wanted it all.
Autonomous province of vojvodina(Hungary) wasnt serb land for over 1000 years what happened to the 350,000 germans? Subotica was founded by croats not serbs FACT, 1900 more croatians lived in subotica than zagreb evey serb knows that! Istria was never italian it was illyrian land inhabitated by the histri FACT and then conquered by romans, if it was there land why did they have to conquer it? In 1910, the ethnic and linguistic composition. According to the Austrian census results (Istria included here parts of the Karst and Liburnia which are not really part of Istria and excluded ancient Istrian parts, like Trieste), out of 404,309 inhabitants in Istria, 168,116 (41.6%) spoke Croatian, 147,416 (36.5%) spoke Italian, 55,365 (13.7%) spoke Slovene, 13,279 (3.3%) spoke German, 882 (0.2%) spoke Romanian, 2,116 (0.5%) spoke other languages and 17,135 (4.2%). The whole montenegrin coast was under italians (venetians), "Monte Negro" means black mountain in Venetian or Monte Nero in italian. Infact montengro coast is considered as dalmatia. Get your facts right about Dalmatia, all of bosnia and parts of montenegro are the province of dalmatia, first settled by croat tribes, sent by the roman emperor heraclius to expel the avars which was succesful and the first croatian king tomislav coronated in bosnia(dalmatia) in 925 (tomislavgrad). The surname bosnjak (bosnian) is croatias 23rd most common surname, Bosna is a illyrian name from the romans , ONLY CROATIANS USED ILLYRIAN NAMES.
All Croats should return to Zemun and get full autonomy as it IS Croatian land, just like Vojvodina is Hungarian and Sandzak is Bosnian and Kosovo is Albanian and Ponisalje is Bulgarian..
Serbia was just Beograd in history..oh wait...the Hungarians built that city too.
It is a sad fact that in the preceeding 4 years before Operation Flash, the serbs brutally killed, tortured, raped and expelled ALL non-serbian civilians. Those civilians included ethnic Ukrainian and Hungarian residents of Croatia. It is sad and unfortunate that those lucky enough to escape the serb butchers came back 4 years later in 1995 and took revenge. But is this a surprise? Would you not want to take revenge on someone for killing your husband, wife, children.....burning your house and stealing all your posessions? If the world powers had have stopped the serbs, punished them and showed that international justice is not fiction, then returning Croats would not have needed to revenge an injustice. But unfortunately, the serbs at the time were butchering innocent Bosniaks in Srebrenica.....with the world watching and doing nothing. So the serbs have only themselves, and the useless international community to blame.
The only crime bigger than the war crime is the post war one, for which the aggressor is absolved. Let there be no doubt, Serbia is guilt as sin of the massacres in Croatia. You slaughtered enormous numbers in creation of a (GREATER SERBIA), Hate towards Croatia helped you to grow it to the never before remembered heights of violence, hunger for blood, killing, (I try to guess what for). You left Croatia with goods stolen from their Croatian neighbours (whom you have earlier either killed or forced to leave their homes and all posessions). I must ask, who committed the greater crime—the perpetrators Serbian murderers or International Community those who ignore it and enable such aggression.
In response to an earlier comment, Flash and Storm were two different operations. The fighting in early May of 1995 in western Slavonia around Okučani was, indeed, Operation Bljesak (Flash). Operation Oluja (Storm) happened three months later southeast of there in the heartland of the Serbian Krajina. The eighteenth anniversary of Operation Storm will be this coming August 4 through August 7.
Punish the killers on both sides, then forgive each other and live as the brothers and neighbors that you are. Yes, I'm an arrogant American hypocrite. So prove us wrong by caring more about your future than you do about your past. Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years. Or keep fighting your old wars over and over again. Foreigners are always grateful to assimilate your fleeing young talent, then stereotype the rest of you as war-crazed tribal lunatics. Are you brave enough to shame us into silence and respect?
"After a mass for Croatian victims, President Ivo Josipović, a government delegation headed by Prime Minister Zoran Milanović and a delegation of the Croatian parliament laid wreaths and lit candles at the Central Cross in the Memorial Park of Croatian Knights."
As well as the above delegations, I wonder why B92 in their article failed to mention that the ceremony in Okucani, Croatia was also attended by a delegation of the Serb Democratic Forum?!?!?!
...and yet another mass grave of non-serbs is found in Croatia - here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317590/Slaughterhouse-Sotin-Mass-grave-Croatia-finally-solves-mystery-people-taken-away-middle-night-Serbs.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Has Serbia found any mass graves on it's territory? I wound who the non-serbs were? If the victims are described as non serbs were the executioners Serbs? I am sure Serbs will some justification for the killing or better yet will twist the story and claim the executioners were victims of the victims. Go for it...all in the name of Greater Serbia.
Croats drove out countless Serbs from the Serbs' homeland. They also murdered innocent civilians. Yet, they don't have to pay for their crimes. Nor did they pay for their crimes during WWII. How sad. Yet, on this site, trashy Albanians keep on stepping up and writing utter lies about their history, pretending this and that about what they did. The fact is that they did and are doing nothing. Without the US, you would be nothing. All you do is beg and steal. If it was not for stealing and begging to your masters, you would have nothing. It's not like I open the paper every day and read that some Albanian accomplished anything. Grow up and maybe one day you will be as successful as the least successful Serb, and without stealing or begging.
the region of krajina should return to the Serbs and get independence if they wish, Istria and Dalmatia is Italian lands and is going back slowly which is great to see. Zagreb will be Croatia in the near future because the croats owes Germany and the other nations for getting the Serbs to leave it had nothing to do with the croat army that's for sure. Soon as Croatia joins the EU it will start. The only thing the croat army did was kill old and woman and kids because the croats were scared to fight fighters, its easy to kill defenceless. And for you on here talking about Serbia and blah bah blah well Serbs are majority everywhere but Kosovo. Even in sandzak the population is 50% muslim and 50% serbs .....
This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
If Croatia and Slovenia wanted to go, which they did, why didn't Serbia let them go? Why? Economic interests is why. Those two republics made up 70% go the Yugoslavian budget. It had nothing to with protecting rights of Serbs or anything like that. Did croatia return to some Nazi puppet state? No. Would serbs living there be better off now if there was no war, no Vukovar and no sanctions. of corse, even if they left because of a hostile Croat government or whatever they would still have left on their own terms. selling their belongings and choosing to leave. they would be no worse off! Instead when Croatia decided to leave they calmored for war, demanded arms and said this is Serbia! just like albanians did, so we know who openned pandoras box. maybe they were encouraged by Milosevic, maybe mislead or maybr just exploited but we can take this our foolish mistake and ignorance gaetting the best of us. We fought wars destroyed our reputation and our economy. We were the allies of the west but after the wars we were pariah state like North Korea or Syria. It lead to the disintegration of Yugoslavia and loss of Kosovo. Are we better off? Of corse not. We are millions of times worse. Now they look down on us as primitive animals and it is our fault for following the path our leaders laid for us. Path to destruction and poverty.
njegos--I will answer you. Since I have already lost a couple of minutes of my precious life to I read your sh#t you wrote, I'll spend a few minutes to answer you.
1, (you will only see the boots of your masters) is this from yours experience? you watch the boots of Turks for 500 years. Since you know so much of the past, are you sure you're not a Turk ore perhaps a Gypsy. Serbs history for the Serbs, by the Serbs! For you Serbs history is always different than the history for the whole world! I ask you, why are you're breaking your legs to enter the EU with the Germans when you hate them so much.
2. If the Croats were puppet state during WWII so were you Serbs Cetniks.
3. (What happened to Croats in Herceg Bosna) the same thing that happened to Croats in Vojvodina i Zemun and the same thing that happened to you Serbs in Kosovo.
4. (And for your one more question) cowards! your Serb Communist Army, killed 15,000 Croatians and forcibly displaced, "cleansed," some 220,000 Croats from about one-third of Croatian territory, 4000 are still missing. 600 Croatian Churches as well as 70 Monasteries destroyed. 210 libraries, you killed 22 press agents, who were trying to reveal the truth about the Serbs aggression. Croatians should indeed be proud of their own liberation from such a hell.
They would only be countless to someone who can't count. And how can a Serb's "homeland" be in Croatia?
(Yellow Doorman, 2 May 2013 12:49)
Typical of Croat lies. I remember once reading in an Artentine journal some Croats cackling, "We are like Jews", pretending that Serbs were murdering them like you and your Nazi brothers did. You guys won't stop at anything.
This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
(mario, 3 May 2013 17:21) its funny how you Albanians come on b92 and pretend to be someone else because its true, I have many Croat friends and they don't go on b92 nor any site but Croatian lol so reality is Serbs and Croats are moving forward and you Albanians live like your Turk masters of 500 years ago....
From Mario: "We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!"
Hey Mario, I've got news for you, no matter how much Croats look ahead as you say, you will only see the boots of your masters marching in front of you. From the Austro-Hungarian Empire to the satellite Nazi puppet state during WWII to your current position as water carriers for the US & Germany, Croatia has, and always will be servants to others. Such a proud history!
And I love the way you guys constantly refer to Greater Serbia. What happened to Herceg Bosna, aka Greater Croatia? Remember Mario? Didn't quite pan out did it? Now the Croat population is down to 11% from 22% before the war of the 90s. Soon there won't be any Croats left in BH. Just think, the birthplace of the Ustasha movement without Croats. You keep moving ahead Mario. Let us all know how those German boots taste.
Oh, one more question Mario, you mention manipulation and lies. Why did the Croatian gov't. spend millions of dollars on US PR firms like Hill & Knowlton and Ruder Finn to manipulate he western press? If you guys were in the right, why would you need to stoop to such tactics? Can't wait to here back from you Mario.
Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years.
I sure hope so, its time for you to suffer because of all the harm and violence you have been breeding allower the world for the last 100 years. Everything you do you do because of your own interests and then you say you give people "freedom". I bet the vietnamese love you way of freedom, just like the cubans, nicaraguans, iraqis, syrians and all other you have been murdering in order to enrichen yourself.
"So far, no one has been held accountable for war crimes against the Serbs"
Nothing new here when it comes to Croatia. Wonder where Lenard is to condem this killing and expulsion of people from their homes? Its a dissgrace to allow the scum behind this crime to remain unpunished. The biggest dissgrace is our government in Belgrade who lick the boots of all those responsible for this and other crimes against serbs and Serbia.
all Serbs should return and get full autonomy of the krajina region since it IS Serbian lands and not Croatian lads and it should be pushed for from the people and the UN and the power nations like Russia and china and the others from the bricks....just like Istria is not Croatian lands and Dalmatia those are Italian lands...Croatia was Zagreb in history....
They would only be countless to someone who can't count. And how can a Serb's "homeland" be in Croatia?
(Yellow Doorman, 2 May 2013 12:49)
Typical of Croat lies. I remember once reading in an Artentine journal some Croats cackling, "We are like Jews", pretending that Serbs were murdering them like you and your Nazi brothers did. You guys won't stop at anything.
Croats drove out countless Serbs from the Serbs' homeland. They also murdered innocent civilians. Yet, they don't have to pay for their crimes. Nor did they pay for their crimes during WWII. How sad. Yet, on this site, trashy Albanians keep on stepping up and writing utter lies about their history, pretending this and that about what they did. The fact is that they did and are doing nothing. Without the US, you would be nothing. All you do is beg and steal. If it was not for stealing and begging to your masters, you would have nothing. It's not like I open the paper every day and read that some Albanian accomplished anything. Grow up and maybe one day you will be as successful as the least successful Serb, and without stealing or begging.
All Croats should return to Zemun and get full autonomy as it IS Croatian land, just like Vojvodina is Hungarian and Sandzak is Bosnian and Kosovo is Albanian and Ponisalje is Bulgarian..
Serbia was just Beograd in history..oh wait...the Hungarians built that city too.
the region of krajina should return to the Serbs and get independence if they wish, Istria and Dalmatia is Italian lands and is going back slowly which is great to see. Zagreb will be Croatia in the near future because the croats owes Germany and the other nations for getting the Serbs to leave it had nothing to do with the croat army that's for sure. Soon as Croatia joins the EU it will start. The only thing the croat army did was kill old and woman and kids because the croats were scared to fight fighters, its easy to kill defenceless. And for you on here talking about Serbia and blah bah blah well Serbs are majority everywhere but Kosovo. Even in sandzak the population is 50% muslim and 50% serbs .....
Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic once said' Serbs in Krajina are a massive burden to the Serb people they are sucking the Serbian economy bone dry'. I must congratulate the Krajina Serbs. How a group of uneducated drunken peasants held out for so long is beyond me. The world doesn't care about Serb victims you arent Jewish. Get over it and move on. Just remember that the Serbs had an opportunity to create a peaceful solution but no..Gospodin Milan Martic wanted it all.
From Mario: "We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!"
Hey Mario, I've got news for you, no matter how much Croats look ahead as you say, you will only see the boots of your masters marching in front of you. From the Austro-Hungarian Empire to the satellite Nazi puppet state during WWII to your current position as water carriers for the US & Germany, Croatia has, and always will be servants to others. Such a proud history!
And I love the way you guys constantly refer to Greater Serbia. What happened to Herceg Bosna, aka Greater Croatia? Remember Mario? Didn't quite pan out did it? Now the Croat population is down to 11% from 22% before the war of the 90s. Soon there won't be any Croats left in BH. Just think, the birthplace of the Ustasha movement without Croats. You keep moving ahead Mario. Let us all know how those German boots taste.
Oh, one more question Mario, you mention manipulation and lies. Why did the Croatian gov't. spend millions of dollars on US PR firms like Hill & Knowlton and Ruder Finn to manipulate he western press? If you guys were in the right, why would you need to stoop to such tactics? Can't wait to here back from you Mario.
This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
Autonomous province of vojvodina(Hungary) wasnt serb land for over 1000 years what happened to the 350,000 germans? Subotica was founded by croats not serbs FACT, 1900 more croatians lived in subotica than zagreb evey serb knows that! Istria was never italian it was illyrian land inhabitated by the histri FACT and then conquered by romans, if it was there land why did they have to conquer it? In 1910, the ethnic and linguistic composition. According to the Austrian census results (Istria included here parts of the Karst and Liburnia which are not really part of Istria and excluded ancient Istrian parts, like Trieste), out of 404,309 inhabitants in Istria, 168,116 (41.6%) spoke Croatian, 147,416 (36.5%) spoke Italian, 55,365 (13.7%) spoke Slovene, 13,279 (3.3%) spoke German, 882 (0.2%) spoke Romanian, 2,116 (0.5%) spoke other languages and 17,135 (4.2%). The whole montenegrin coast was under italians (venetians), "Monte Negro" means black mountain in Venetian or Monte Nero in italian. Infact montengro coast is considered as dalmatia. Get your facts right about Dalmatia, all of bosnia and parts of montenegro are the province of dalmatia, first settled by croat tribes, sent by the roman emperor heraclius to expel the avars which was succesful and the first croatian king tomislav coronated in bosnia(dalmatia) in 925 (tomislavgrad). The surname bosnjak (bosnian) is croatias 23rd most common surname, Bosna is a illyrian name from the romans , ONLY CROATIANS USED ILLYRIAN NAMES.
The only crime bigger than the war crime is the post war one, for which the aggressor is absolved. Let there be no doubt, Serbia is guilt as sin of the massacres in Croatia. You slaughtered enormous numbers in creation of a (GREATER SERBIA), Hate towards Croatia helped you to grow it to the never before remembered heights of violence, hunger for blood, killing, (I try to guess what for). You left Croatia with goods stolen from their Croatian neighbours (whom you have earlier either killed or forced to leave their homes and all posessions). I must ask, who committed the greater crime—the perpetrators Serbian murderers or International Community those who ignore it and enable such aggression.
It is a sad fact that in the preceeding 4 years before Operation Flash, the serbs brutally killed, tortured, raped and expelled ALL non-serbian civilians. Those civilians included ethnic Ukrainian and Hungarian residents of Croatia. It is sad and unfortunate that those lucky enough to escape the serb butchers came back 4 years later in 1995 and took revenge. But is this a surprise? Would you not want to take revenge on someone for killing your husband, wife, children.....burning your house and stealing all your posessions? If the world powers had have stopped the serbs, punished them and showed that international justice is not fiction, then returning Croats would not have needed to revenge an injustice. But unfortunately, the serbs at the time were butchering innocent Bosniaks in Srebrenica.....with the world watching and doing nothing. So the serbs have only themselves, and the useless international community to blame.
...and yet another mass grave of non-serbs is found in Croatia - here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317590/Slaughterhouse-Sotin-Mass-grave-Croatia-finally-solves-mystery-people-taken-away-middle-night-Serbs.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Has Serbia found any mass graves on it's territory? I wound who the non-serbs were? If the victims are described as non serbs were the executioners Serbs? I am sure Serbs will some justification for the killing or better yet will twist the story and claim the executioners were victims of the victims. Go for it...all in the name of Greater Serbia.
If Croatia and Slovenia wanted to go, which they did, why didn't Serbia let them go? Why? Economic interests is why. Those two republics made up 70% go the Yugoslavian budget. It had nothing to with protecting rights of Serbs or anything like that. Did croatia return to some Nazi puppet state? No. Would serbs living there be better off now if there was no war, no Vukovar and no sanctions. of corse, even if they left because of a hostile Croat government or whatever they would still have left on their own terms. selling their belongings and choosing to leave. they would be no worse off! Instead when Croatia decided to leave they calmored for war, demanded arms and said this is Serbia! just like albanians did, so we know who openned pandoras box. maybe they were encouraged by Milosevic, maybe mislead or maybr just exploited but we can take this our foolish mistake and ignorance gaetting the best of us. We fought wars destroyed our reputation and our economy. We were the allies of the west but after the wars we were pariah state like North Korea or Syria. It lead to the disintegration of Yugoslavia and loss of Kosovo. Are we better off? Of corse not. We are millions of times worse. Now they look down on us as primitive animals and it is our fault for following the path our leaders laid for us. Path to destruction and poverty.
"After a mass for Croatian victims, President Ivo Josipović, a government delegation headed by Prime Minister Zoran Milanović and a delegation of the Croatian parliament laid wreaths and lit candles at the Central Cross in the Memorial Park of Croatian Knights."
As well as the above delegations, I wonder why B92 in their article failed to mention that the ceremony in Okucani, Croatia was also attended by a delegation of the Serb Democratic Forum?!?!?!
njegos--I will answer you. Since I have already lost a couple of minutes of my precious life to I read your sh#t you wrote, I'll spend a few minutes to answer you.
1, (you will only see the boots of your masters) is this from yours experience? you watch the boots of Turks for 500 years. Since you know so much of the past, are you sure you're not a Turk ore perhaps a Gypsy. Serbs history for the Serbs, by the Serbs! For you Serbs history is always different than the history for the whole world! I ask you, why are you're breaking your legs to enter the EU with the Germans when you hate them so much.
2. If the Croats were puppet state during WWII so were you Serbs Cetniks.
3. (What happened to Croats in Herceg Bosna) the same thing that happened to Croats in Vojvodina i Zemun and the same thing that happened to you Serbs in Kosovo.
4. (And for your one more question) cowards! your Serb Communist Army, killed 15,000 Croatians and forcibly displaced, "cleansed," some 220,000 Croats from about one-third of Croatian territory, 4000 are still missing. 600 Croatian Churches as well as 70 Monasteries destroyed. 210 libraries, you killed 22 press agents, who were trying to reveal the truth about the Serbs aggression. Croatians should indeed be proud of their own liberation from such a hell.
In response to an earlier comment, Flash and Storm were two different operations. The fighting in early May of 1995 in western Slavonia around Okučani was, indeed, Operation Bljesak (Flash). Operation Oluja (Storm) happened three months later southeast of there in the heartland of the Serbian Krajina. The eighteenth anniversary of Operation Storm will be this coming August 4 through August 7.
Punish the killers on both sides, then forgive each other and live as the brothers and neighbors that you are. Yes, I'm an arrogant American hypocrite. So prove us wrong by caring more about your future than you do about your past. Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years. Or keep fighting your old wars over and over again. Foreigners are always grateful to assimilate your fleeing young talent, then stereotype the rest of you as war-crazed tribal lunatics. Are you brave enough to shame us into silence and respect?
Who knows, there may well be a joint Serb/Croat peacekeeping battalion in war-torn North America in fifty years.
I sure hope so, its time for you to suffer because of all the harm and violence you have been breeding allower the world for the last 100 years. Everything you do you do because of your own interests and then you say you give people "freedom". I bet the vietnamese love you way of freedom, just like the cubans, nicaraguans, iraqis, syrians and all other you have been murdering in order to enrichen yourself.
This reminds me of Yugoslavia and the Serbs in it when they used to pray every night for wealth and Greater Serbia. Then you Serbs realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so you stole, lied, killed, seized and asked Him to forgive you. As a Croatian I understand, moving and looking ahead is the attribute of the strong.
We Croatians are moving and looking ahead! while you Serbs constantly looking back, remain in the past, over which you think you have control with your expert manipulation and lies. And there you will remain in the past, and lies. Pathetic!
(mario, 3 May 2013 17:21) its funny how you Albanians come on b92 and pretend to be someone else because its true, I have many Croat friends and they don't go on b92 nor any site but Croatian lol so reality is Serbs and Croats are moving forward and you Albanians live like your Turk masters of 500 years ago....
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