President: Srebrenica crime was no genocide

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."

This might be your opinion, Mr. Nicolic. The ICTY ruled different, the world knows better, and you know that. But everyone can have his opinion, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks there was no genocide committed against the Jews by the Nazis. And some people think the lunar landing didn't happen, neither

yes, I'm sure Nazis think the same about their crimes

So much stupidity, contradiction and ignorance in one text is hard to achieve. "Srebrenica was no genocide", "Karadzic/Mladic are innocent until proven guilty", but Thaci will be met only when proven unguilty. Etc.

Tomislav never fails to remind us that he was and still is a Chetnik. What a waste of time to talk to him at all.

Thank you President Nikolic. It’s about time someone in your position came out with this statement unlike that quisling Tadic who would trade his own mother for a Euro.
The Srebrenica myth is just that – a myth. Even the Israelis have said as much when they invited dodik to Israel and the Bosniaks objected because he refused to accept Srebrenica as genocide.
This is a figment of Bosniak and US imagination.

Srebrenica was a war crime, not a genocide. If only men were killed at Srebrenica, how can that constitute the extermination of a race? The excuse used by ICTY is that the forced relocation of civilians constitutes genocide. If that is the case, why the hell is Operation Storm not a genocide? Or even America's involvement in Iraq which left a million civilians dead and several hundred thousand more seeking refuge? If you're going to call something a genocide, don't have double standards. Until then, Srebrenica is not a genocide and everyone without an agenda knows it.

"The question is not whether we want Europe. The real question is whether they want us. You will have to ask them about that," Nikolić concluded.
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Too true, Serbs have always stood for themselves and resisted great invading empires, unlike Bosnian Muslims, Albanians and Croatians, who have always been boot lickers. Lets not forget that we also resisted the Soviet Union and almost went to war. Freedom to Serbs!

Just check the Minuses given to All those Serbs who agree with PRESIDENT OF SERBIA, TOMISLAV NIKOLIC, that explains all the trust that people of Serbia have now on their government.
(Eagleeye, 9 October 2012 13:49)
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My friend, there are many of you multi-voting Albanians fluent in Serbian who frequent that part of B92. This NATO lie will be exposed sooner or later and that's why this keeps coming up. NATO boot lickers can keep justifying this lie but once the whole truth is known, and Nasar Oric's death squads revealed, while they purposely provoked Serbs and abandoned Muslims, the finger will point back to Clinton, Izetbegovic and Oric.

In the meantime, the real genocides, those committed against Serbs in Croatia and KiM continue to be covered up. And yes, there are many, including our local Commie Parrison, who deny such a genocide took place because the ICTY (aka NATO court) did not say so.

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."


Hmmm very interesting.If you read the comments in the Serbian version of this article, You will see a complete Different view of people of Serbia. Just check the Minuses given to All those Serbs who agree with PRESIDENT OF SERBIA, TOMISLAV NIKOLIC, that explains all the trust that people of Serbia have now on their government.

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."

I completely disagree, Tome, since I know enough Serbs who the guts to say that Srebrenica was an act of genocide.

You, however, are certainly that kind of Serb which poses the very reason why Serbia poses a constant problem for the whole of Balkans. Instead of finding solutions for the mountains of problems, you concentrate your efforts to hold on lost things while attempting (again) to rewrite history. Short: Epic fail reloaded.

there was no genocide in srbenica it was all fighters, those 7000 killed were all men and boys of fighting age they were the mujahadeens. they let the woman and children leave on a bus to go home and the fighters to stay.so no there was no genocide.
(tommy from croatia, 9 October 2012 16:22)

You sure your not tomoslav the Chetnik, from Serbia!

Karadzic and Mladic should be considered innocent until proven guilty, but Thaci should be considered guilty until proven innocent????!!
Is this a mistake in translation or did he really say this?

A lot of albanian comparing serbs to the nazies. You albs sure have a short memory. Didn't you side with the nazies during WW2?
(MikeC, 9 October 2012 18:51)

No MikeC we have not short memory. There were 4000 Albanian Kosovo men executed from Serbian partisans in Tivari massacre. They were mobilized to fight against Nazi Germans, but you had something else in mind. You did not want Albanian of Kosovo to fight Nazi, you as always wanted them dead.
As for Nikolic your president, I wish he will keep this rhetoric up and soon enough will have his answer from democratic world. There is no place for Milloshevic or his Lilliput followers in 21 century in middle of Europe.

Srebrenica was a war crime, not a genocide. If only men were killed at Srebrenica, how can that constitute the extermination of a race? The excuse used by ICTY is that the forced relocation of civilians constitutes genocide. If that is the case, why the hell is Operation Storm not a genocide? Or even America's involvement in Iraq which left a million civilians dead and several hundred thousand more seeking refuge? If you're going to call something a genocide, don't have double standards. Until then, Srebrenica is not a genocide and everyone without an agenda knows it.
(Luka, 9 October 2012 13:46)

+1

I dont care if I sound like a broken record, but if this angers Bob, danilo, bganon, roberto, nenad, comm.pparrason (and lets not forget our albo trolls) then Serbia did a good thing :)

[link]
(Doot, 9 October 2012 14:23)
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The Srebenica Historical Project -> http://www.srebrenica-project.com

Everything you need to know plus more. No more sheepish behaviour thank you very much so educate yourselves.

yes, I'm sure Nazis think the same about their crimes
(Nikolle, 9 October 2012 13:25)

Are you talking about jihadist-nazi KiM ALbanians? enjoy documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxrg7nMcs4&bpctr=1349791293

they still look like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39xAIAQZk4&feature=related

free Israel from Arab terrorists and KiM from Albanian terrorists!!!

Nikolic is becoming like Jeremic. More he talks more gaffes he makes.

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.

I can't help myself and I have to agree with Mr. President. This whole case with Srebrenica was a huge misleading project made in NATO kitchen... There wasn't a genocide...more likely and just maybe war crime and head commanders are in jail...And one more thing..Everybody's innocent until proven guilty...So far, nobody was sentenced for Srebrenica CRIME. And also, there are too many witnesses who will testify that all victims were sacrificed for "higher cause'...So, it's more like interpretation of Mr. President's words.

there was no genocide in srbenica it was all fighters, those 7000 killed were all men and boys of fighting age they were the mujahadeens. they let the woman and children leave on a bus to go home and the fighters to stay.so no there was no genocide.

7000 muslim men killed in Srebrenica is genocide but 1.000.000 armenian men, women and children murdered by muslim turks is not. Explain that?

A lot of albanian comparing serbs to the nazies. You albs sure have a short memory. Didn't you side with the nazies during WW2?

"7000 muslim men killed in Srebrenica is genocide but 1.000.000 armenian men, women and children murdered by muslim turks is not. Explain that? "
(MikeC, 9 October 2012 18:51)

Of course Turkish crimes commited against Armenians were genocide. ther worlds knows it, only Turkish nationalists, including the infamous prime minister Erdogan, deny it. Just like the infamous Serbian President Nicolic denies it, they are persons of the same kind.

I agree with President Tomislav Nikolic Srebrenica crime was not genocide. It was a great crime but not genocide. The figure of 8,000 killed in Srebrenica is inflated. Many of the alleged victims, receiving pensions and vote on elections. This is known in the west and the east, but the story remains the same. And that has to change.

Just like the infamous Serbian President Nicolic denies it, they are persons of the same kind.
(Comm. Parrisson, 9 October 2012 19:34)
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Hold on a second, NATO doesn't recognise the 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children killed by Turks as genocide. However, it recognises several thousand of Oric's murdering soldiers killed in Srebrenica as genocide.

Just curious, do you think NATO will ever recognise the Dasht-i-Leili genocide as such (post Srebrenica)? You know, 8000 prisoners in containers with several thousand murdered? Oh hold on, NATO was involved in that and ended up removing mass graves and covering it all up. Is that genocide in your books? What about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? The murder of indigenous North American Indians to create the US of A? The genocide committed against Serbs by Croatia twice in history and that committed against Serbs in KiM by Albanians? Genocide or do you need America's approval first?

I Wonder if the Serbian people & politicians would have called It genocide, if it would have happened to the Serbian population in Belgrade or kragujevac?

As for Kosova, the Serbian people & government can keep on dreaming about ever being able to have sovereignty over it! That Ended in 1999! Don't recognize, makes no difference, but rest assured, the Serbs that are alive today will never see the day when Serbia will have controll of Kosova! And some Serb politicians & commentators say Serbia will wait as long as it takes to re-occupy Kosova? Who knows what the future holds? Us Albanians in the future might just be in complete controll of Serbia in its entirety!

Haha, inside the same article, at a distance of 5 minutes from each other probably:

"leaders Radovan Karadžić and Ratko Mladić, who are currently on trial at the Hague Tribunal, the president said he considered them innocent until proven guilty"

I.e. innocent until proven guilty (by the Hague).

"Kosovo Albanian PM Hashim Thaci, but stressed that before such a meeting, criminal proceedings against Thaci must be completed, and noted that he was suspected of trading in human organs of kidnapped Serbs in Kosovo during the war."

I.e. guilty until proven innocent (by Serbian prosecutors).

In Srebrenica there was a murder of prisoners of war. Unfortunately it is rather common thing during civil wars.

Srebrenica was a professionally carried out military operation, as said by the UN on the ground when the assault happened. There are many Muslims who blame their own for the fact that Srebrenica was taken by the VRS, blame lies with Izetbegovic, who took the order from Clinton that at least 5000 Muslims needed to be "killed" for there to be an intervention. However NATO has the power to cover up any piece of evidence, they run the ICTY which says it all.

Never any mention however of the numerous crimes committed by Naser Oric in the years before 1995, as guilty as sin but he will never face punishment for his barbaric terrorism under the name of Islam. Oh and not to mention Oluja or Operation Storm which was the biggest act of ethnic cleansing during the break-up of Yugoslavia, Serbia is expected to recognize and apologize for Srebrenica as a crime and genocide but no apology is expected from the Croats for Oluja in 1995, or even the Jasenovac death camp in WWII, something Croats are still in massive denial about.

Nikolic comments are a proof of the genocide of grey cells that happen in his brain ! Shame Shame Shame ! As I already mentioned he is killing brave Serbia nation and future just to restore milosevic outdated retrorocket and a never existed pride ,! Shame for those who vote for him and shame for those who didn t vote at all !

The Democratically Elected Honourable President of Serbia Tomislav Nikolic, has spoken like the True Statesman, and like the True Gentleman that he is, in order to set the Record Straight.

Some people on this site do not know what genocide is....
Here to refresh your memory:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007043
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

The bosnian Muslims to this day still live in Srebrenica, they still can practice their culture/religion. So where is the proof of genocide??
The people killed where the muslim/mujahedin fighters of Oric and no women or children or elderly people. There was no abortion/kidnapping/assimilating/converting etc.

We know that the Jews faced genocide 70 years ago, what about the Armenians and Syrian Christians killed by the Turks between 1915-1918?
Rwanda anyone?
Many cultures and nations are not here on earth anymore! the reason is genocide.....
But Guess who still lives in Bosnia!

way to go mr President, we know who you are. What the hack Serbs don't deserve any better but be stack on the primitive ages, whilst any sane person on this planet recognizes that Sebrenica was a genocide and that is done you guys have to live with it.

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.
(Hans, 9 October 2012 19:52)
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You're funny. Seriba is not even in the EU.

If Srebrenica is genocide then what do you call Operation Storm, Jasenovac, two million Armenians and many others?

'I can't help myself and I have to agree with Mr. President' Steven, you gave me the biggest laugh of the day with this statement.

You have never disagreed with Nikolic, so you are not likely to start now!

Zoran that 'project' you are referring to is staffed by Milosevic supporters, fancy titles aside its hardly likely that Wilcoxson and company are going to be unbiased...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Anyone who is mentioning Srebrenica and Serbian ppl as killers should look for the documentary movie "Srebrenica A Town Betrayed" and "Sarajevo Ricochet". Both movies are done by Norwegian journalists and facts there are matching what General McKenzie was saying. Time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face it!

About "poor" Albanians under "evil" Serbs check online for
"The Serbs Were Not Oppressing the Kosovo Albanians... Quite the opposite" by Francisco Gil-White

Was reading that the Israelis are supporting the Bosnian Serbs in Visegrad, while the Turkish leader tells Bosniaks to have at least five kids, and Russia supports (maybe) Serbia, while the EU prepares to swallow Croatia.
Time for Serbia to mend fences with its neighbours...the foreign powers simply back their tribes in a game which only divides the tribes from each other.
Stupid...much better to repair relations between the tribes. It worked OK under the SFRJ...

What sort of an argument is it to say that it is 'not a genocide' but 'it is murder' and 'is a war crime'?

Why try to justify unacceptable behaviour by labelling with another unacceptable behaviour?

I am fed up with this stupid argument.

What happened in Srebrenica (and elsewhere) dirtied Serbs and Serbia. This was unjustifiable and is still unjustified except in the minds of inward-looking Serb nationalists who patently obviously have no real conception of the mess of itself that Serbia presented to the world.

Sadly, Serbia has suffered for the stupidities that repeatedly appear on this site from people who would rather defend criminality and so corrupt Serbia further. Rather than face a truth they spend time blaming everyone else for their woes. They should take some time to firstly put their own moral house in order.

The world might then find a bit more respect for Serbia.

'Of course it is biased. It explains the other side of the story.'

Zoran yes Milosevic's side of the story, not the Serbian side of the story. Considering this source comes from those close to Sloboda, formerly part of Milosevic's defence counsel, the equivalent bias isn't BBC, not even CNN. Its not even the Hague as a whole. The equivalent bias is the prosecution at the Hague, or perhaps a diktat from NATO itself.

Personally I don't expect NATO or Milosevic to tell me the truth, we all know their blase attitude towards civilian casualties.

One cannot tell the truth by listening to two liars.

Zoran that 'project' you are referring to is staffed by Milosevic supporters, fancy titles aside its hardly likely that Wilcoxson and company are going to be unbiased...
(bganon, 9 October 2012 20:02)

I'm sure Zoran is aware of that, most of the links he posts have some, let's say, 'dubious' background and authors. The bad thing is that some people might believe the things read there. And even if the mentioned facts should be true (no idea if they are or not), they only show one side, thus cannot be a source for an objective picture of reality. There are enough unbiased sources in the Internet, but they might not be so favorable for Serbs.

I've read some comments here and I can't believe how much degenerated minds are here who still believe that it is in the Srebrenica was genocide.

...wow...

"You're funny. Seriba is not even in the EU. "

Right. Still the EU ist the true ruler of Serbia. Just wait and see.

oh wow mick, so because you didn't get to kill them all it doesn't qualify as genocide?! what logic. exKfor, get a life

oh wow mick, so because you didn't get to kill them all it doesn't qualify as genocide?! what logic. exKfor, get a life
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 09:49)
When you grow a brain you will find out that the Serbs allowed ALL women and children and old men to leave unharmed. So is this only part genocide? – a woman can’t be half pregnant; she is one way or the other, but it seems that with those judicial idiots in the ICTY a woman can be half pregnant.

Just to remind the audience that the International Court of Justice, acting on Bosnia's lawsuit against Serbia ABSOLVED Serbia of the blame and ruled that:

#1 - Serbia did NOT commit "genocide" in Bosnia
#2 - Serbia did NOT conspire to commit "genocide" in Bosnia
#3 - Serbia was NOT complicit in the "genocide" in Bosnia.

Case closed. No appeals allowed. The verdict is firm and final.

The debate on what happened in Bosnia can now continue between Brussels, Washington, London, Berlin and Rome.

"When you grow a brain you will find out that the Serbs allowed ALL women and children and old men to leave unharmed."

how very generous! look what we did to them, we left them to grieve for their sons, husbands and brothers!

How yes no Mr President!

And even if the mentioned facts should be true (no idea if they are or not), they only show one side, thus cannot be a source for an objective picture of reality. There are enough unbiased sources in the Internet, but they might not be so favorable for Serbs.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 October 2012 09:44)
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Of course it is biased. It explains the other side of the story. The Hague (aka NATO court) is also biased. I hope you are not attempting to deny that. So understand both sides and hopefully you'll get a better picture of what actually happened.

Your position is like listening only to one side of a divorce case. Each side has their truth and manipulate facts to suit ones own position and agenda. The Hague is no different.

Being the CNN junkie that you are, your position also comes across as biased. You claim some things are genocide whereas other genocides are not because they involve the US of A and have been covered up or ignored. The US even name their helicopters after genocide -> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/249652_477219155629713_1455958987_n.jpg

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.
(Hans, 9 October 2012 19:52)
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I can see you don't like it. Every time the president mentioned this topic it reopens the debate and more of the truth comes out, which only benefits Serbs. Impeach him if you can. LOL!

how very generous! look what we did to them, we left them to grieve for their sons, husbands and brothers!
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:56)
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Grieving for your loved ones IS NOT GENOCIDE. Genocide is when there is nobody left to grieve.
Yes, it was generous. Oric did not allow the same. He decided to kill women and children as well.
Operation storm did not discriminate. So I suggest you just stop talking now because you are talking sh!t.

If killing between 8,000 - 15,000 healthy young Bosnian men aged between 12 - 50 in a 24 hour time frame is not considered genocide then I don't what is. The longer the Serbs continue to deny genocide the longer they will be politically isolated. Srebrenica was considered a horrendous act unimaginable in the modern era. How you put a bullet in a 12 year olds skull is beyong me...

From article:
"Reform processes in our economy, judicial system, secret services and public sector are complete"

Wow, this will come as great news to those in Serbia who were worried just because Serbia has the weakest currency in Europe, high unemployment, corruption in the the judicial system, an overstaffed and inefficient public sector, etc. Glad to know that Serbia's government considers the work to be done and no further improvements are to be expected...

Regarding Thaci, it is not even a matter of innocent until proven guilty. In a country with a normally functioning legal system (for example like in Serbia with its completely reformed judiciary) there are no "legal proceedings to be completed" until after someone is indicted. Thaci has not been charged with a crime in a court of law.

The right wing Serbians may bury the bodies but they will never bury the crimes. The whole world knows Srebrenica was a genocide, unfortunately the only ones that disagree are the Serbs. Disgusting !

"Grieving for your loved ones IS NOT GENOCIDE. "

Very true Peggy, however, the murder of over 8000 males over a matter of 3-4 days is genocide. they were not killed in battle either Peggy. not to worry, we know your people have never done any harm to anyone, it was all Germany's fault, they broke up Yugoslavia right?

Hans

Are you on the magic mushrooms again??

You don't half come out with some drivel on these posts.

(Comm. Parrisson, 9 October 2012 13:24)

The Nuremberg trials were staffed by some of the most brilliant legal minds of their day. The ICTY is filled with the scrapings of the bottom of the international legal fraternity. Most of these so called judges would not be allowed to sit on Traffic Courts in their respective countries let alone cases that matter.

Read my comment on what the Jews think of Srebrenica.

The Hague (aka NATO court) is also biased. I hope you are not attempting to deny that.
(Zoran, 10 October 2012 15:31)

I agree, the Hague (aka the Court set up by Russia, China & co) is biased towards favoring Serbs because we all know that Russia and China are strong allies of Serbia and Serbia's interests are their top national priority.

It is shame not to mention Jasenovac when you talk about Srebrenica! In Jasenovac 700 000 Serbs were killed by Ustase forces, where half of soldiers were Bosniaks (then called only Muslims, in majority cases). Bosniaks, first mention Jasenovac, then Bratunac and Potocari.

Are you enough democratic newspaper to publish this comment about Serbian victims?

Thank you President Nikolic. It’s about time someone in your position came out with this statement unlike that quisling Tadic who would trade his own mother for a Euro.
The Srebrenica myth is just that – a myth. Even the Israelis have said as much when they invited dodik to Israel and the Bosniaks objected because he refused to accept Srebrenica as genocide.
This is a figment of Bosniak and US imagination.

yes, I'm sure Nazis think the same about their crimes

"The question is not whether we want Europe. The real question is whether they want us. You will have to ask them about that," Nikolić concluded.
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Too true, Serbs have always stood for themselves and resisted great invading empires, unlike Bosnian Muslims, Albanians and Croatians, who have always been boot lickers. Lets not forget that we also resisted the Soviet Union and almost went to war. Freedom to Serbs!

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."

This might be your opinion, Mr. Nicolic. The ICTY ruled different, the world knows better, and you know that. But everyone can have his opinion, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks there was no genocide committed against the Jews by the Nazis. And some people think the lunar landing didn't happen, neither

there was no genocide in srbenica it was all fighters, those 7000 killed were all men and boys of fighting age they were the mujahadeens. they let the woman and children leave on a bus to go home and the fighters to stay.so no there was no genocide.

So much stupidity, contradiction and ignorance in one text is hard to achieve. "Srebrenica was no genocide", "Karadzic/Mladic are innocent until proven guilty", but Thaci will be met only when proven unguilty. Etc.

Tomislav never fails to remind us that he was and still is a Chetnik. What a waste of time to talk to him at all.

Srebrenica was a war crime, not a genocide. If only men were killed at Srebrenica, how can that constitute the extermination of a race? The excuse used by ICTY is that the forced relocation of civilians constitutes genocide. If that is the case, why the hell is Operation Storm not a genocide? Or even America's involvement in Iraq which left a million civilians dead and several hundred thousand more seeking refuge? If you're going to call something a genocide, don't have double standards. Until then, Srebrenica is not a genocide and everyone without an agenda knows it.

I Wonder if the Serbian people & politicians would have called It genocide, if it would have happened to the Serbian population in Belgrade or kragujevac?

As for Kosova, the Serbian people & government can keep on dreaming about ever being able to have sovereignty over it! That Ended in 1999! Don't recognize, makes no difference, but rest assured, the Serbs that are alive today will never see the day when Serbia will have controll of Kosova! And some Serb politicians & commentators say Serbia will wait as long as it takes to re-occupy Kosova? Who knows what the future holds? Us Albanians in the future might just be in complete controll of Serbia in its entirety!

yes, I'm sure Nazis think the same about their crimes
(Nikolle, 9 October 2012 13:25)

Are you talking about jihadist-nazi KiM ALbanians? enjoy documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxrg7nMcs4&bpctr=1349791293

they still look like that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J39xAIAQZk4&feature=related

free Israel from Arab terrorists and KiM from Albanian terrorists!!!

I can't help myself and I have to agree with Mr. President. This whole case with Srebrenica was a huge misleading project made in NATO kitchen... There wasn't a genocide...more likely and just maybe war crime and head commanders are in jail...And one more thing..Everybody's innocent until proven guilty...So far, nobody was sentenced for Srebrenica CRIME. And also, there are too many witnesses who will testify that all victims were sacrificed for "higher cause'...So, it's more like interpretation of Mr. President's words.

I agree with President Tomislav Nikolic Srebrenica crime was not genocide. It was a great crime but not genocide. The figure of 8,000 killed in Srebrenica is inflated. Many of the alleged victims, receiving pensions and vote on elections. This is known in the west and the east, but the story remains the same. And that has to change.

Just check the Minuses given to All those Serbs who agree with PRESIDENT OF SERBIA, TOMISLAV NIKOLIC, that explains all the trust that people of Serbia have now on their government.
(Eagleeye, 9 October 2012 13:49)
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My friend, there are many of you multi-voting Albanians fluent in Serbian who frequent that part of B92. This NATO lie will be exposed sooner or later and that's why this keeps coming up. NATO boot lickers can keep justifying this lie but once the whole truth is known, and Nasar Oric's death squads revealed, while they purposely provoked Serbs and abandoned Muslims, the finger will point back to Clinton, Izetbegovic and Oric.

In the meantime, the real genocides, those committed against Serbs in Croatia and KiM continue to be covered up. And yes, there are many, including our local Commie Parrison, who deny such a genocide took place because the ICTY (aka NATO court) did not say so.

7000 muslim men killed in Srebrenica is genocide but 1.000.000 armenian men, women and children murdered by muslim turks is not. Explain that?

A lot of albanian comparing serbs to the nazies. You albs sure have a short memory. Didn't you side with the nazies during WW2?

The Democratically Elected Honourable President of Serbia Tomislav Nikolic, has spoken like the True Statesman, and like the True Gentleman that he is, in order to set the Record Straight.

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."


Hmmm very interesting.If you read the comments in the Serbian version of this article, You will see a complete Different view of people of Serbia. Just check the Minuses given to All those Serbs who agree with PRESIDENT OF SERBIA, TOMISLAV NIKOLIC, that explains all the trust that people of Serbia have now on their government.

"No Serb recognizes that genocide took place in Srebrenica, and I am no different."

I completely disagree, Tome, since I know enough Serbs who the guts to say that Srebrenica was an act of genocide.

You, however, are certainly that kind of Serb which poses the very reason why Serbia poses a constant problem for the whole of Balkans. Instead of finding solutions for the mountains of problems, you concentrate your efforts to hold on lost things while attempting (again) to rewrite history. Short: Epic fail reloaded.

Nikolic is becoming like Jeremic. More he talks more gaffes he makes.

"7000 muslim men killed in Srebrenica is genocide but 1.000.000 armenian men, women and children murdered by muslim turks is not. Explain that? "
(MikeC, 9 October 2012 18:51)

Of course Turkish crimes commited against Armenians were genocide. ther worlds knows it, only Turkish nationalists, including the infamous prime minister Erdogan, deny it. Just like the infamous Serbian President Nicolic denies it, they are persons of the same kind.

In Srebrenica there was a murder of prisoners of war. Unfortunately it is rather common thing during civil wars.

Srebrenica was a war crime, not a genocide. If only men were killed at Srebrenica, how can that constitute the extermination of a race? The excuse used by ICTY is that the forced relocation of civilians constitutes genocide. If that is the case, why the hell is Operation Storm not a genocide? Or even America's involvement in Iraq which left a million civilians dead and several hundred thousand more seeking refuge? If you're going to call something a genocide, don't have double standards. Until then, Srebrenica is not a genocide and everyone without an agenda knows it.
(Luka, 9 October 2012 13:46)

+1

I dont care if I sound like a broken record, but if this angers Bob, danilo, bganon, roberto, nenad, comm.pparrason (and lets not forget our albo trolls) then Serbia did a good thing :)

Srebrenica was a professionally carried out military operation, as said by the UN on the ground when the assault happened. There are many Muslims who blame their own for the fact that Srebrenica was taken by the VRS, blame lies with Izetbegovic, who took the order from Clinton that at least 5000 Muslims needed to be "killed" for there to be an intervention. However NATO has the power to cover up any piece of evidence, they run the ICTY which says it all.

Never any mention however of the numerous crimes committed by Naser Oric in the years before 1995, as guilty as sin but he will never face punishment for his barbaric terrorism under the name of Islam. Oh and not to mention Oluja or Operation Storm which was the biggest act of ethnic cleansing during the break-up of Yugoslavia, Serbia is expected to recognize and apologize for Srebrenica as a crime and genocide but no apology is expected from the Croats for Oluja in 1995, or even the Jasenovac death camp in WWII, something Croats are still in massive denial about.

Nikolic comments are a proof of the genocide of grey cells that happen in his brain ! Shame Shame Shame ! As I already mentioned he is killing brave Serbia nation and future just to restore milosevic outdated retrorocket and a never existed pride ,! Shame for those who vote for him and shame for those who didn t vote at all !

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.
(Hans, 9 October 2012 19:52)
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You're funny. Seriba is not even in the EU.

If Srebrenica is genocide then what do you call Operation Storm, Jasenovac, two million Armenians and many others?

there was no genocide in srbenica it was all fighters, those 7000 killed were all men and boys of fighting age they were the mujahadeens. they let the woman and children leave on a bus to go home and the fighters to stay.so no there was no genocide.
(tommy from croatia, 9 October 2012 16:22)

You sure your not tomoslav the Chetnik, from Serbia!

Just like the infamous Serbian President Nicolic denies it, they are persons of the same kind.
(Comm. Parrisson, 9 October 2012 19:34)
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Hold on a second, NATO doesn't recognise the 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children killed by Turks as genocide. However, it recognises several thousand of Oric's murdering soldiers killed in Srebrenica as genocide.

Just curious, do you think NATO will ever recognise the Dasht-i-Leili genocide as such (post Srebrenica)? You know, 8000 prisoners in containers with several thousand murdered? Oh hold on, NATO was involved in that and ended up removing mass graves and covering it all up. Is that genocide in your books? What about the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? The murder of indigenous North American Indians to create the US of A? The genocide committed against Serbs by Croatia twice in history and that committed against Serbs in KiM by Albanians? Genocide or do you need America's approval first?

Some people on this site do not know what genocide is....
Here to refresh your memory:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007043
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/genocide

The bosnian Muslims to this day still live in Srebrenica, they still can practice their culture/religion. So where is the proof of genocide??
The people killed where the muslim/mujahedin fighters of Oric and no women or children or elderly people. There was no abortion/kidnapping/assimilating/converting etc.

We know that the Jews faced genocide 70 years ago, what about the Armenians and Syrian Christians killed by the Turks between 1915-1918?
Rwanda anyone?
Many cultures and nations are not here on earth anymore! the reason is genocide.....
But Guess who still lives in Bosnia!

[link]
(Doot, 9 October 2012 14:23)
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The Srebenica Historical Project -> http://www.srebrenica-project.com

Everything you need to know plus more. No more sheepish behaviour thank you very much so educate yourselves.

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.

way to go mr President, we know who you are. What the hack Serbs don't deserve any better but be stack on the primitive ages, whilst any sane person on this planet recognizes that Sebrenica was a genocide and that is done you guys have to live with it.

A lot of albanian comparing serbs to the nazies. You albs sure have a short memory. Didn't you side with the nazies during WW2?
(MikeC, 9 October 2012 18:51)

No MikeC we have not short memory. There were 4000 Albanian Kosovo men executed from Serbian partisans in Tivari massacre. They were mobilized to fight against Nazi Germans, but you had something else in mind. You did not want Albanian of Kosovo to fight Nazi, you as always wanted them dead.
As for Nikolic your president, I wish he will keep this rhetoric up and soon enough will have his answer from democratic world. There is no place for Milloshevic or his Lilliput followers in 21 century in middle of Europe.

Karadzic and Mladic should be considered innocent until proven guilty, but Thaci should be considered guilty until proven innocent????!!
Is this a mistake in translation or did he really say this?

Haha, inside the same article, at a distance of 5 minutes from each other probably:

"leaders Radovan Karadžić and Ratko Mladić, who are currently on trial at the Hague Tribunal, the president said he considered them innocent until proven guilty"

I.e. innocent until proven guilty (by the Hague).

"Kosovo Albanian PM Hashim Thaci, but stressed that before such a meeting, criminal proceedings against Thaci must be completed, and noted that he was suspected of trading in human organs of kidnapped Serbs in Kosovo during the war."

I.e. guilty until proven innocent (by Serbian prosecutors).

Enough is enough. It's time for the European Union to impeach this president.
(Hans, 9 October 2012 19:52)
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I can see you don't like it. Every time the president mentioned this topic it reopens the debate and more of the truth comes out, which only benefits Serbs. Impeach him if you can. LOL!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

'I can't help myself and I have to agree with Mr. President' Steven, you gave me the biggest laugh of the day with this statement.

You have never disagreed with Nikolic, so you are not likely to start now!

Zoran that 'project' you are referring to is staffed by Milosevic supporters, fancy titles aside its hardly likely that Wilcoxson and company are going to be unbiased...

I've read some comments here and I can't believe how much degenerated minds are here who still believe that it is in the Srebrenica was genocide.

...wow...

Was reading that the Israelis are supporting the Bosnian Serbs in Visegrad, while the Turkish leader tells Bosniaks to have at least five kids, and Russia supports (maybe) Serbia, while the EU prepares to swallow Croatia.
Time for Serbia to mend fences with its neighbours...the foreign powers simply back their tribes in a game which only divides the tribes from each other.
Stupid...much better to repair relations between the tribes. It worked OK under the SFRJ...

oh wow mick, so because you didn't get to kill them all it doesn't qualify as genocide?! what logic. exKfor, get a life

"When you grow a brain you will find out that the Serbs allowed ALL women and children and old men to leave unharmed."

how very generous! look what we did to them, we left them to grieve for their sons, husbands and brothers!

oh wow mick, so because you didn't get to kill them all it doesn't qualify as genocide?! what logic. exKfor, get a life
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 09:49)
When you grow a brain you will find out that the Serbs allowed ALL women and children and old men to leave unharmed. So is this only part genocide? – a woman can’t be half pregnant; she is one way or the other, but it seems that with those judicial idiots in the ICTY a woman can be half pregnant.

And even if the mentioned facts should be true (no idea if they are or not), they only show one side, thus cannot be a source for an objective picture of reality. There are enough unbiased sources in the Internet, but they might not be so favorable for Serbs.
(Comm. Parrisson, 10 October 2012 09:44)
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Of course it is biased. It explains the other side of the story. The Hague (aka NATO court) is also biased. I hope you are not attempting to deny that. So understand both sides and hopefully you'll get a better picture of what actually happened.

Your position is like listening only to one side of a divorce case. Each side has their truth and manipulate facts to suit ones own position and agenda. The Hague is no different.

Being the CNN junkie that you are, your position also comes across as biased. You claim some things are genocide whereas other genocides are not because they involve the US of A and have been covered up or ignored. The US even name their helicopters after genocide -> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/249652_477219155629713_1455958987_n.jpg

Just to remind the audience that the International Court of Justice, acting on Bosnia's lawsuit against Serbia ABSOLVED Serbia of the blame and ruled that:

#1 - Serbia did NOT commit "genocide" in Bosnia
#2 - Serbia did NOT conspire to commit "genocide" in Bosnia
#3 - Serbia was NOT complicit in the "genocide" in Bosnia.

Case closed. No appeals allowed. The verdict is firm and final.

The debate on what happened in Bosnia can now continue between Brussels, Washington, London, Berlin and Rome.

how very generous! look what we did to them, we left them to grieve for their sons, husbands and brothers!
(Nikolle, 10 October 2012 11:56)
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Grieving for your loved ones IS NOT GENOCIDE. Genocide is when there is nobody left to grieve.
Yes, it was generous. Oric did not allow the same. He decided to kill women and children as well.
Operation storm did not discriminate. So I suggest you just stop talking now because you are talking sh!t.

Hans

Are you on the magic mushrooms again??

You don't half come out with some drivel on these posts.

Anyone who is mentioning Srebrenica and Serbian ppl as killers should look for the documentary movie "Srebrenica A Town Betrayed" and "Sarajevo Ricochet". Both movies are done by Norwegian journalists and facts there are matching what General McKenzie was saying. Time of easily brainwashed ppl has passed, face it!

About "poor" Albanians under "evil" Serbs check online for
"The Serbs Were Not Oppressing the Kosovo Albanians... Quite the opposite" by Francisco Gil-White

(Comm. Parrisson, 9 October 2012 13:24)

The Nuremberg trials were staffed by some of the most brilliant legal minds of their day. The ICTY is filled with the scrapings of the bottom of the international legal fraternity. Most of these so called judges would not be allowed to sit on Traffic Courts in their respective countries let alone cases that matter.

Read my comment on what the Jews think of Srebrenica.

What sort of an argument is it to say that it is 'not a genocide' but 'it is murder' and 'is a war crime'?

Why try to justify unacceptable behaviour by labelling with another unacceptable behaviour?

I am fed up with this stupid argument.

What happened in Srebrenica (and elsewhere) dirtied Serbs and Serbia. This was unjustifiable and is still unjustified except in the minds of inward-looking Serb nationalists who patently obviously have no real conception of the mess of itself that Serbia presented to the world.

Sadly, Serbia has suffered for the stupidities that repeatedly appear on this site from people who would rather defend criminality and so corrupt Serbia further. Rather than face a truth they spend time blaming everyone else for their woes. They should take some time to firstly put their own moral house in order.

The world might then find a bit more respect for Serbia.

How yes no Mr President!

"Grieving for your loved ones IS NOT GENOCIDE. "

Very true Peggy, however, the murder of over 8000 males over a matter of 3-4 days is genocide. they were not killed in battle either Peggy. not to worry, we know your people have never done any harm to anyone, it was all Germany's fault, they broke up Yugoslavia right?

"You're funny. Seriba is not even in the EU. "

Right. Still the EU ist the true ruler of Serbia. Just wait and see.

'Of course it is biased. It explains the other side of the story.'

Zoran yes Milosevic's side of the story, not the Serbian side of the story. Considering this source comes from those close to Sloboda, formerly part of Milosevic's defence counsel, the equivalent bias isn't BBC, not even CNN. Its not even the Hague as a whole. The equivalent bias is the prosecution at the Hague, or perhaps a diktat from NATO itself.

Personally I don't expect NATO or Milosevic to tell me the truth, we all know their blase attitude towards civilian casualties.

One cannot tell the truth by listening to two liars.

The right wing Serbians may bury the bodies but they will never bury the crimes. The whole world knows Srebrenica was a genocide, unfortunately the only ones that disagree are the Serbs. Disgusting !

If killing between 8,000 - 15,000 healthy young Bosnian men aged between 12 - 50 in a 24 hour time frame is not considered genocide then I don't what is. The longer the Serbs continue to deny genocide the longer they will be politically isolated. Srebrenica was considered a horrendous act unimaginable in the modern era. How you put a bullet in a 12 year olds skull is beyong me...

From article:
"Reform processes in our economy, judicial system, secret services and public sector are complete"

Wow, this will come as great news to those in Serbia who were worried just because Serbia has the weakest currency in Europe, high unemployment, corruption in the the judicial system, an overstaffed and inefficient public sector, etc. Glad to know that Serbia's government considers the work to be done and no further improvements are to be expected...

Regarding Thaci, it is not even a matter of innocent until proven guilty. In a country with a normally functioning legal system (for example like in Serbia with its completely reformed judiciary) there are no "legal proceedings to be completed" until after someone is indicted. Thaci has not been charged with a crime in a court of law.

Zoran that 'project' you are referring to is staffed by Milosevic supporters, fancy titles aside its hardly likely that Wilcoxson and company are going to be unbiased...
(bganon, 9 October 2012 20:02)

I'm sure Zoran is aware of that, most of the links he posts have some, let's say, 'dubious' background and authors. The bad thing is that some people might believe the things read there. And even if the mentioned facts should be true (no idea if they are or not), they only show one side, thus cannot be a source for an objective picture of reality. There are enough unbiased sources in the Internet, but they might not be so favorable for Serbs.

The Hague (aka NATO court) is also biased. I hope you are not attempting to deny that.
(Zoran, 10 October 2012 15:31)

I agree, the Hague (aka the Court set up by Russia, China & co) is biased towards favoring Serbs because we all know that Russia and China are strong allies of Serbia and Serbia's interests are their top national priority.

It is shame not to mention Jasenovac when you talk about Srebrenica! In Jasenovac 700 000 Serbs were killed by Ustase forces, where half of soldiers were Bosniaks (then called only Muslims, in majority cases). Bosniaks, first mention Jasenovac, then Bratunac and Potocari.

Are you enough democratic newspaper to publish this comment about Serbian victims?