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Tuesday, 18.09.2012.

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Putin: Russia must be ready to defend itself

Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia must be prepared to defend itself, given the practice of use of force in contemporary international relations.

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pss

pre 12 godina

For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.
rote,
Do you not realize that the moment the hint of a nuclear attack by Russia anywhere, would not result in the release of 1000 nuclear warheads toward Russian soil.
That is the reason for limiting the access of new radical countries to nuclear weapons. Once a nuclear war starts there is no stopping until the world we know is devasted and the leaders of the new world will probably come from the southern hemisphere where nuclear weapons for the most part do not exist. The leaders of the the major countries realize this.
Also the numbers do not really matter. Russia has more than 50 times the warheads of the UK, but what UK has if released quickly enough would destroy the functionality of Russia.
My advice just keep the threat of nuclear war to oneself.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(rote, 19 September 2012 19:02)

So what? The UK has enough nukes to destroy the world 20 times over (so what if the US, Russia and China can destroy the world several thousand times over, once is enough). What is your point?

But all nukes are, are simply deterrents (and that is one of the reasons why all our nukes are on submarines as you never know where on the earth they are). We have the ability to wipe any country off the face of the earth, but would we ever do that? No. Because another nuclear power could wipe us of the face of the earth in minutes. And of course in a nuclear war there are no winners, everyone is a looser. That is why they're deterrents.

And you can 'believe' what you want, but the UK and the US are not enemies of Russia; and vice versa.

And Britain and Russia are traditional allies and we have rather good diplomatic and economic relations. But if you really think that, then fair play. Many people in the UK would wear that as a badge of honour. Cheers for over estimating and over-rating us.

rote

pre 12 godina

Ian, UK

“…you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline.”

Listen boy ! Semi truth is the most skillful kinda lies. Israel has population of 7 million and there are no states willing to test their strength. To say nothing of Russia. Today we are able to destroy all G-20 states within one day. So don’t waste time for preparations for our funerals. For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.

With 25 mln Russians abroad we have moral rights to expect them to be back sometimes. Asians are just gasarbeiters to help us wait for EU go bankrupt. Then we’ll be hosting English gastarbeiters. Another bad news is that the Ukraine seems to be back to he mother Russia soon. And as another Russophobe ( Z. Brzezinski ) has once said Russia + the Ukraine is a great country again … Imagine how bad he felt when he said those terrible words ! I guess it will be better that any H-bomb. You know most Russians believe that the worst enemy of ours is not the USA but the UK and so do I.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

One could invade Russia with the same excuses one did invade Serbia. Russia is to prevent it.
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If the war between Russia and China is going to be nuke one, then China stands no chance.

Spartan

pre 12 godina

Ian Uk

Is it any better in the USA behind the scenes??? It isn't Ian, there's a lot going off in the USA that is sinister immoral and downright evil.

That country will I promise you see an uprising before 2020. The people are being ripped off by their banking and finance institutions not to mention their own bloody government.

It's not much different in the UK either. If you look at it from a broader view, the whole planet is in trouble and it's not going to get any better any time soon. You'll see that this is accurate in due time.

Thus far I've not been wrong, I wish that I was. There will be an economic collapse on a global scale and it will be the cause of misery for many of us because of a few immoral corrupt greedy rich bastards, all those at the top. They are the real enemy and it's time that all people woke to that fact and did something about it.

You've heard of divide and conquer and that's just what is taking place accross the globe, people have not yet come to realise that much of the turmoil we're seeing is all planned and orchestrated by those who are really pulling the strings behind the scenes of our so called democratic and free governments. None of us are free and some have already realised that fact.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

BRICS threatens me? No. You're just bigging it up thats all. All it is, is an annual conference/ summit. It'd be nothing without China as a member. It is China's club anyway. They aren't the equals they make themsleves out to be. China just uses the other members.

And I love your rant about the hypothetical Eurasian Union, but I have one question. Will the Balkan Orthodox countries join this hypothetical organisation before or after Disneyland?

You've got it into you head that Russia is going to be this great power once again, but what you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline. Big Vlad Putin has to rely on armed force, Jihadist puppet governments and sellotape to keep the country together. And that is why your average Joe Bloggs is happy to take a meal ticket and leave Russia, hence the decling population. Russia is having to import people from East Asia to populate St Petersburg Oblast and the surrounding areas, that is one of the most wealthy parts of Russia; yet the locals go elsewhere in search for a better life. The East Asians aren't enjoying life in St Petersburg as they fear being racially attacked in the streets and this is unfortunatly common place. So much for the mighty Russia.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.
(Ardi Asllani, 18 September 2012 15:43)
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And the US and her posse do not have that money any more either. They are talking about pulling out. All the US can do these days is stir trouble abroad. Let the people of those lands kill each other. Soon enough that will fail too.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

Well Ian I must say I am impressed by your level of insider knowledge regarding international relations. The BRICS represents emerging economies from all parts of the world who share a common interest in providing some counter-balance to the Transatlantic alliance. BRICS isn't supposed to be some hostile enemy to the NATO countries, just another way of doing things. Why does that threaten you so much?

But your insider knowledge regarding China's view on Russia and international relations in general is quite impressive. Thank God, the petty Balkanians have a 'ahead of the curb' Western liberal to show us the way.

Oh but I'm not really thinking about BRICS. I realize the S does not stand for Serbia, although deepening relations with the BRICS collectively is a good idea.

I am more concerned with the formation of the Eurasian Union which is a union of the future for our continent. As Sreten said Russia is concerned with itself and its immediate surroundings, not every corner of the world..they don't need to be. Logically, Russia will look to do is integrate in an completely common market as well as military alliance with Belarus, Kazakhstan (and most likely Ukraine) thereby realigning the most important ex-Soviet republics.

The next logical goal would be integrating as many Orthodox Balkan countries as possible. With Ukraine, the Eurasian Union borders the Balkans and things could change rather quickly.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.
(cry me a river, 18 September 2012 21:07)
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Russia turning to NATO for help? Are you kidding? NATO is a worry for Russia not a saviour.
Improving relations with the US is not a bad thing as long as they are not turned into some lapdog. Russia is not going to be intimidated by China. Why do you think China would do that? What has China got to gain by intimidating Russia in this way? You can't make these statements without clarifying them.

Sreten

pre 12 godina

Nothing strange here.

Putin announced long ago that he does not intent to build Soviet-like military force.
"Superpower" - means capable of projecting its power on every corner of the globe.
Example. Soviet Union had 9 aircraft carriers, Russia has 1, and that one is used to patrol waters off Siberia, as many soviet air bases were closed.
Putin merely wants to concentrate on defending Russia against all possible adversaries. Thus, they concentrate on, what they call "near abroad" - countries on their very borders.
There they don't want any force capable of challenging Russia.
Ukraine....they don't need it to be in some kind of defense block with Russia. They just don't want it to be in NATO, as that would be a challenge for Russia.
This defense policy makes every sense in their case, actually. To be "superpower" is a great military expense, and Russia really doesn't need it.
Do they need to go and fight for oil in Arab sand? No.
They have their own oil...and gas...and diamonds...and gold...and all kinds of minerals....it goes on, and on....
Russia's population is only 140 millions, and it has nearly 1/8 of world's land area with enormous mineral and energy deposits.
They just need to defend it.
"Putin. Russia must be ready to defend itself." (title)
Logical and expected.

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

The BRICS are not a fantasy but a reality confirming the shift in the dynamics of international relations.Fantasy is the US and UK which they still project themselves as world masters albeit naked ones.The only game in town for US,UK is printing new money out of thin air and cutting welfare entitlements (in the case of UK).Here is a link:

http://galacticconnection.com/10976#

Ryan M

pre 12 godina

Serbia troops should be sharpening their pencil's by attended a joint training with the Russian Military.

I don't see any real chance of war between Russia and China, two totally different countries who mind their side of the fence.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@SCP UKWell it is YOUR country too. Yes Russia doesn't have the balls/ military capacity to go to war with a country other than it's imediate neighboughs, not tham I'm implying it is a good or a bad thing. I am opposed and ashamed about some of OUR country's wars in recent years, however I can sympathise with some of OUR country's wars too; of course one cannot be pro War. And when did you say you're imigrating from OUR evil country? Or did you so already and regret it ever since?

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Ian UK

Typical comment from an arrogant Brit talking through their backside. You bring up Georgia, at least thats on Russia's border, your nation wages wars on other continents, not to mention the amount of the globe in the past Britain has raped and pillaged in the name of exploitation. Oh and care to mention Britain's defence (offence) budget? The hypocracy amazes me.

cry me a river

pre 12 godina

Russia's largest threat comes from China. Russian newspapers wrote about this a couple of months ago. There's been an increase of Chinese military personnel along the China-Russia border and weapons point toward Russia.

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.

Vladimir_the_Great

pre 12 godina

Russia weak? Lol, hey guys hows that missile shield coming along? Oh wait didn't they have to put those plans on hold and change locations and what not?

How about Chechnya? Georgia? How those 2 places doing now? Wasn't Georgia suppose to be joining Nato? or was that scrapped the second Russia annihilated them their western weapons systems? I remember how the White House use to refer to Georgia as a "great" ally of the US. Funny how they couldn't come to the defense of their ally. Russia doesn't a MASSIVE ground or MASSIVE navy / air force. They aren't under threat of any ground invasion from anyone... let alone China. Russian rocket technology is by far the most advanced in the world in terms of speed / pay load capacity / range. A few Russian nukes would turn to dust any invading army or any or ALL countries. Thats why they are safe and thats why NO ONE would even THINK about intervening in a Russian military conflict. If these imperialist blood suckers had the chance to take over Russia they would have done it already. Thats why they try to do it covertly from within. Putin knows their tricks and games and how to deal with them. Since Putin has been in office the west has been backpedaling on every issue with Russia. They failed in Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Serbia is slowly but surely being converted over. In another 10 years or so, lets see what else the Russians will be to "undo". Ha ha ha

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 18 September 2012 14:22)

What is your point? So what if Russia is to be 4th largest economy? And? Also don't take things too literal. And if you actually read my comment properly the other day, you'd see that I was referring specifically to Natural Gas not natural resources as a whole; and how gas is becoming needed less and less in the west of Europe as alternatives are becoming far more popular, efficient, cheaper and safer.

Yes Russia does have a problem with Radical Islam, but maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Russia wasn't ruling over other nations, many of which are Islamic. Also Putin is as much to blame for the Islamisation of parts of Russia as the so called "Jihadists" are. Putin installed radical Muslims and former terrorists as autonomous leaders of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov and his father before him. Radical Islam is thriving under them in Chechnya, but does Putin care at all? Of course he doesn't because they're pro-Putin "Jihadists".

And apparently I'm the deluded one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19627632

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!

Adem

pre 12 godina

Politic of old Tsar, boxing in heavyeweight contest.
But Russia only middleweight.
Putin make big power politic, women leave for western passports.
Result? No babies, only Muslim in Dagestan and Chechenia

Ardi Asllani

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.
(Pete K., 18 September 2012 14:15)

There is one problem with Russia, which has no means/capacity to wage wars simultaneously in different countries around the globe like USA,UK and France ,among some other western countries.
Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

This is just another excuse to spend even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

You are delusional. Russia is projected to have the world's 4th largest economy by only 2020. While Russia managed to secure European partners for the South Stream Pipeline, the Western backed Nabucco Pipeline is a figment of our imaginations. You said couple days ago Russia was 'begging' Europe to buy natural resources. Why would anyone have to beg to sell resources that cannot be produced by man? Furthermore, you probably are clueless on how economics and business work because 'begging' will get you nowhere. Nobody will buy something because they feel bad for you and if they did, you really think it would be from Russia?

Just like Serbia, Russia has its own problems with Jihadists within its internationally recognized borders. Its military needs to be upgraded significantly so Orthodox Christian land can be defended from Jihadism.

Putin already did that brilliantly mind you. He defeated the Islamists in Chechnya, much like Serbia will do (and did before foreign bombardment) to our own Jihadists.

And China invading Russia? Seek mental help my friend. You're lost.

Pete K.

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

So I'm guessing he forgot what happened in Georgia four years ago?

This is just another excuse to spend (waste) even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!

Nori

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

Mr Putin, you are the leader of one very influential country, if you are worried about the safty of the world then please change your own policy, and contribute to world peace by beeing a superpower, but come one who are you trying to fool you are not done playing change the world map eather. But you have been broke for such a long time that you couldent afford playing that game. You have even managed to scare the peace loving swedes (and that says a lot) several recent reports in sweden indicate an alraming increasing threat coming from russia and has cought sweden of guard and as a result of that the Swedish government just put an order of 60 new warairplanes, further steps are beeing investigate. And whats more intresting is that this is first time for a very long time that the swedes are genuinely scared and believe that they cannot count on the same support from neighbouring countries as they are offering and of course further pushing them wtowards NATO and expanding corporation. The swedish FM Carl Bild beeing such a lover of slavic tribes, i would just love it if you (russia) reminded him of why his former kings in history hated you so much.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

This is just another excuse to spend even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

You are delusional. Russia is projected to have the world's 4th largest economy by only 2020. While Russia managed to secure European partners for the South Stream Pipeline, the Western backed Nabucco Pipeline is a figment of our imaginations. You said couple days ago Russia was 'begging' Europe to buy natural resources. Why would anyone have to beg to sell resources that cannot be produced by man? Furthermore, you probably are clueless on how economics and business work because 'begging' will get you nowhere. Nobody will buy something because they feel bad for you and if they did, you really think it would be from Russia?

Just like Serbia, Russia has its own problems with Jihadists within its internationally recognized borders. Its military needs to be upgraded significantly so Orthodox Christian land can be defended from Jihadism.

Putin already did that brilliantly mind you. He defeated the Islamists in Chechnya, much like Serbia will do (and did before foreign bombardment) to our own Jihadists.

And China invading Russia? Seek mental help my friend. You're lost.

Pete K.

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

So I'm guessing he forgot what happened in Georgia four years ago?

This is just another excuse to spend (waste) even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Ian UK

Typical comment from an arrogant Brit talking through their backside. You bring up Georgia, at least thats on Russia's border, your nation wages wars on other continents, not to mention the amount of the globe in the past Britain has raped and pillaged in the name of exploitation. Oh and care to mention Britain's defence (offence) budget? The hypocracy amazes me.

Vladimir_the_Great

pre 12 godina

Russia weak? Lol, hey guys hows that missile shield coming along? Oh wait didn't they have to put those plans on hold and change locations and what not?

How about Chechnya? Georgia? How those 2 places doing now? Wasn't Georgia suppose to be joining Nato? or was that scrapped the second Russia annihilated them their western weapons systems? I remember how the White House use to refer to Georgia as a "great" ally of the US. Funny how they couldn't come to the defense of their ally. Russia doesn't a MASSIVE ground or MASSIVE navy / air force. They aren't under threat of any ground invasion from anyone... let alone China. Russian rocket technology is by far the most advanced in the world in terms of speed / pay load capacity / range. A few Russian nukes would turn to dust any invading army or any or ALL countries. Thats why they are safe and thats why NO ONE would even THINK about intervening in a Russian military conflict. If these imperialist blood suckers had the chance to take over Russia they would have done it already. Thats why they try to do it covertly from within. Putin knows their tricks and games and how to deal with them. Since Putin has been in office the west has been backpedaling on every issue with Russia. They failed in Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Serbia is slowly but surely being converted over. In another 10 years or so, lets see what else the Russians will be to "undo". Ha ha ha

Nori

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

Mr Putin, you are the leader of one very influential country, if you are worried about the safty of the world then please change your own policy, and contribute to world peace by beeing a superpower, but come one who are you trying to fool you are not done playing change the world map eather. But you have been broke for such a long time that you couldent afford playing that game. You have even managed to scare the peace loving swedes (and that says a lot) several recent reports in sweden indicate an alraming increasing threat coming from russia and has cought sweden of guard and as a result of that the Swedish government just put an order of 60 new warairplanes, further steps are beeing investigate. And whats more intresting is that this is first time for a very long time that the swedes are genuinely scared and believe that they cannot count on the same support from neighbouring countries as they are offering and of course further pushing them wtowards NATO and expanding corporation. The swedish FM Carl Bild beeing such a lover of slavic tribes, i would just love it if you (russia) reminded him of why his former kings in history hated you so much.

Adem

pre 12 godina

Politic of old Tsar, boxing in heavyeweight contest.
But Russia only middleweight.
Putin make big power politic, women leave for western passports.
Result? No babies, only Muslim in Dagestan and Chechenia

Ryan M

pre 12 godina

Serbia troops should be sharpening their pencil's by attended a joint training with the Russian Military.

I don't see any real chance of war between Russia and China, two totally different countries who mind their side of the fence.

Ardi Asllani

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.
(Pete K., 18 September 2012 14:15)

There is one problem with Russia, which has no means/capacity to wage wars simultaneously in different countries around the globe like USA,UK and France ,among some other western countries.
Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@SCP UKWell it is YOUR country too. Yes Russia doesn't have the balls/ military capacity to go to war with a country other than it's imediate neighboughs, not tham I'm implying it is a good or a bad thing. I am opposed and ashamed about some of OUR country's wars in recent years, however I can sympathise with some of OUR country's wars too; of course one cannot be pro War. And when did you say you're imigrating from OUR evil country? Or did you so already and regret it ever since?

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

The BRICS are not a fantasy but a reality confirming the shift in the dynamics of international relations.Fantasy is the US and UK which they still project themselves as world masters albeit naked ones.The only game in town for US,UK is printing new money out of thin air and cutting welfare entitlements (in the case of UK).Here is a link:

http://galacticconnection.com/10976#

Sreten

pre 12 godina

Nothing strange here.

Putin announced long ago that he does not intent to build Soviet-like military force.
"Superpower" - means capable of projecting its power on every corner of the globe.
Example. Soviet Union had 9 aircraft carriers, Russia has 1, and that one is used to patrol waters off Siberia, as many soviet air bases were closed.
Putin merely wants to concentrate on defending Russia against all possible adversaries. Thus, they concentrate on, what they call "near abroad" - countries on their very borders.
There they don't want any force capable of challenging Russia.
Ukraine....they don't need it to be in some kind of defense block with Russia. They just don't want it to be in NATO, as that would be a challenge for Russia.
This defense policy makes every sense in their case, actually. To be "superpower" is a great military expense, and Russia really doesn't need it.
Do they need to go and fight for oil in Arab sand? No.
They have their own oil...and gas...and diamonds...and gold...and all kinds of minerals....it goes on, and on....
Russia's population is only 140 millions, and it has nearly 1/8 of world's land area with enormous mineral and energy deposits.
They just need to defend it.
"Putin. Russia must be ready to defend itself." (title)
Logical and expected.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

Well Ian I must say I am impressed by your level of insider knowledge regarding international relations. The BRICS represents emerging economies from all parts of the world who share a common interest in providing some counter-balance to the Transatlantic alliance. BRICS isn't supposed to be some hostile enemy to the NATO countries, just another way of doing things. Why does that threaten you so much?

But your insider knowledge regarding China's view on Russia and international relations in general is quite impressive. Thank God, the petty Balkanians have a 'ahead of the curb' Western liberal to show us the way.

Oh but I'm not really thinking about BRICS. I realize the S does not stand for Serbia, although deepening relations with the BRICS collectively is a good idea.

I am more concerned with the formation of the Eurasian Union which is a union of the future for our continent. As Sreten said Russia is concerned with itself and its immediate surroundings, not every corner of the world..they don't need to be. Logically, Russia will look to do is integrate in an completely common market as well as military alliance with Belarus, Kazakhstan (and most likely Ukraine) thereby realigning the most important ex-Soviet republics.

The next logical goal would be integrating as many Orthodox Balkan countries as possible. With Ukraine, the Eurasian Union borders the Balkans and things could change rather quickly.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.
(cry me a river, 18 September 2012 21:07)
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Russia turning to NATO for help? Are you kidding? NATO is a worry for Russia not a saviour.
Improving relations with the US is not a bad thing as long as they are not turned into some lapdog. Russia is not going to be intimidated by China. Why do you think China would do that? What has China got to gain by intimidating Russia in this way? You can't make these statements without clarifying them.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.
(Ardi Asllani, 18 September 2012 15:43)
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And the US and her posse do not have that money any more either. They are talking about pulling out. All the US can do these days is stir trouble abroad. Let the people of those lands kill each other. Soon enough that will fail too.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 18 September 2012 14:22)

What is your point? So what if Russia is to be 4th largest economy? And? Also don't take things too literal. And if you actually read my comment properly the other day, you'd see that I was referring specifically to Natural Gas not natural resources as a whole; and how gas is becoming needed less and less in the west of Europe as alternatives are becoming far more popular, efficient, cheaper and safer.

Yes Russia does have a problem with Radical Islam, but maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Russia wasn't ruling over other nations, many of which are Islamic. Also Putin is as much to blame for the Islamisation of parts of Russia as the so called "Jihadists" are. Putin installed radical Muslims and former terrorists as autonomous leaders of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov and his father before him. Radical Islam is thriving under them in Chechnya, but does Putin care at all? Of course he doesn't because they're pro-Putin "Jihadists".

And apparently I'm the deluded one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19627632

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

BRICS threatens me? No. You're just bigging it up thats all. All it is, is an annual conference/ summit. It'd be nothing without China as a member. It is China's club anyway. They aren't the equals they make themsleves out to be. China just uses the other members.

And I love your rant about the hypothetical Eurasian Union, but I have one question. Will the Balkan Orthodox countries join this hypothetical organisation before or after Disneyland?

You've got it into you head that Russia is going to be this great power once again, but what you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline. Big Vlad Putin has to rely on armed force, Jihadist puppet governments and sellotape to keep the country together. And that is why your average Joe Bloggs is happy to take a meal ticket and leave Russia, hence the decling population. Russia is having to import people from East Asia to populate St Petersburg Oblast and the surrounding areas, that is one of the most wealthy parts of Russia; yet the locals go elsewhere in search for a better life. The East Asians aren't enjoying life in St Petersburg as they fear being racially attacked in the streets and this is unfortunatly common place. So much for the mighty Russia.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

One could invade Russia with the same excuses one did invade Serbia. Russia is to prevent it.
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If the war between Russia and China is going to be nuke one, then China stands no chance.

Spartan

pre 12 godina

Ian Uk

Is it any better in the USA behind the scenes??? It isn't Ian, there's a lot going off in the USA that is sinister immoral and downright evil.

That country will I promise you see an uprising before 2020. The people are being ripped off by their banking and finance institutions not to mention their own bloody government.

It's not much different in the UK either. If you look at it from a broader view, the whole planet is in trouble and it's not going to get any better any time soon. You'll see that this is accurate in due time.

Thus far I've not been wrong, I wish that I was. There will be an economic collapse on a global scale and it will be the cause of misery for many of us because of a few immoral corrupt greedy rich bastards, all those at the top. They are the real enemy and it's time that all people woke to that fact and did something about it.

You've heard of divide and conquer and that's just what is taking place accross the globe, people have not yet come to realise that much of the turmoil we're seeing is all planned and orchestrated by those who are really pulling the strings behind the scenes of our so called democratic and free governments. None of us are free and some have already realised that fact.

cry me a river

pre 12 godina

Russia's largest threat comes from China. Russian newspapers wrote about this a couple of months ago. There's been an increase of Chinese military personnel along the China-Russia border and weapons point toward Russia.

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(rote, 19 September 2012 19:02)

So what? The UK has enough nukes to destroy the world 20 times over (so what if the US, Russia and China can destroy the world several thousand times over, once is enough). What is your point?

But all nukes are, are simply deterrents (and that is one of the reasons why all our nukes are on submarines as you never know where on the earth they are). We have the ability to wipe any country off the face of the earth, but would we ever do that? No. Because another nuclear power could wipe us of the face of the earth in minutes. And of course in a nuclear war there are no winners, everyone is a looser. That is why they're deterrents.

And you can 'believe' what you want, but the UK and the US are not enemies of Russia; and vice versa.

And Britain and Russia are traditional allies and we have rather good diplomatic and economic relations. But if you really think that, then fair play. Many people in the UK would wear that as a badge of honour. Cheers for over estimating and over-rating us.

pss

pre 12 godina

For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.
rote,
Do you not realize that the moment the hint of a nuclear attack by Russia anywhere, would not result in the release of 1000 nuclear warheads toward Russian soil.
That is the reason for limiting the access of new radical countries to nuclear weapons. Once a nuclear war starts there is no stopping until the world we know is devasted and the leaders of the new world will probably come from the southern hemisphere where nuclear weapons for the most part do not exist. The leaders of the the major countries realize this.
Also the numbers do not really matter. Russia has more than 50 times the warheads of the UK, but what UK has if released quickly enough would destroy the functionality of Russia.
My advice just keep the threat of nuclear war to oneself.

rote

pre 12 godina

Ian, UK

“…you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline.”

Listen boy ! Semi truth is the most skillful kinda lies. Israel has population of 7 million and there are no states willing to test their strength. To say nothing of Russia. Today we are able to destroy all G-20 states within one day. So don’t waste time for preparations for our funerals. For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.

With 25 mln Russians abroad we have moral rights to expect them to be back sometimes. Asians are just gasarbeiters to help us wait for EU go bankrupt. Then we’ll be hosting English gastarbeiters. Another bad news is that the Ukraine seems to be back to he mother Russia soon. And as another Russophobe ( Z. Brzezinski ) has once said Russia + the Ukraine is a great country again … Imagine how bad he felt when he said those terrible words ! I guess it will be better that any H-bomb. You know most Russians believe that the worst enemy of ours is not the USA but the UK and so do I.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

So I'm guessing he forgot what happened in Georgia four years ago?

This is just another excuse to spend (waste) even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!

Nori

pre 12 godina

"Look what's happening in the world, you see that, unfortunately, the use of force in international relations in increasing. All this suggests that we should be willing to defend ourselves, we need to strengthen the defense capability of Russia," Putin said on Monday.

Mr Putin, you are the leader of one very influential country, if you are worried about the safty of the world then please change your own policy, and contribute to world peace by beeing a superpower, but come one who are you trying to fool you are not done playing change the world map eather. But you have been broke for such a long time that you couldent afford playing that game. You have even managed to scare the peace loving swedes (and that says a lot) several recent reports in sweden indicate an alraming increasing threat coming from russia and has cought sweden of guard and as a result of that the Swedish government just put an order of 60 new warairplanes, further steps are beeing investigate. And whats more intresting is that this is first time for a very long time that the swedes are genuinely scared and believe that they cannot count on the same support from neighbouring countries as they are offering and of course further pushing them wtowards NATO and expanding corporation. The swedish FM Carl Bild beeing such a lover of slavic tribes, i would just love it if you (russia) reminded him of why his former kings in history hated you so much.

Adem

pre 12 godina

Politic of old Tsar, boxing in heavyeweight contest.
But Russia only middleweight.
Putin make big power politic, women leave for western passports.
Result? No babies, only Muslim in Dagestan and Chechenia

Ardi Asllani

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.
(Pete K., 18 September 2012 14:15)

There is one problem with Russia, which has no means/capacity to wage wars simultaneously in different countries around the globe like USA,UK and France ,among some other western countries.
Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

This is just another excuse to spend even more money on military instead of helping starving poor people across the country all becuase Russia is a wannabe Super Power. Putin really does miss the Cold War.

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

You are delusional. Russia is projected to have the world's 4th largest economy by only 2020. While Russia managed to secure European partners for the South Stream Pipeline, the Western backed Nabucco Pipeline is a figment of our imaginations. You said couple days ago Russia was 'begging' Europe to buy natural resources. Why would anyone have to beg to sell resources that cannot be produced by man? Furthermore, you probably are clueless on how economics and business work because 'begging' will get you nowhere. Nobody will buy something because they feel bad for you and if they did, you really think it would be from Russia?

Just like Serbia, Russia has its own problems with Jihadists within its internationally recognized borders. Its military needs to be upgraded significantly so Orthodox Christian land can be defended from Jihadism.

Putin already did that brilliantly mind you. He defeated the Islamists in Chechnya, much like Serbia will do (and did before foreign bombardment) to our own Jihadists.

And China invading Russia? Seek mental help my friend. You're lost.

Pete K.

pre 12 godina

Stay on course,carry a "BIG CLUB"when you have meetings with the people who speak with forked tounges.God bless Putin,God bless RUSSIA.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(Ari Gold, 18 September 2012 14:22)

What is your point? So what if Russia is to be 4th largest economy? And? Also don't take things too literal. And if you actually read my comment properly the other day, you'd see that I was referring specifically to Natural Gas not natural resources as a whole; and how gas is becoming needed less and less in the west of Europe as alternatives are becoming far more popular, efficient, cheaper and safer.

Yes Russia does have a problem with Radical Islam, but maybe it wouldn't be such a problem if Russia wasn't ruling over other nations, many of which are Islamic. Also Putin is as much to blame for the Islamisation of parts of Russia as the so called "Jihadists" are. Putin installed radical Muslims and former terrorists as autonomous leaders of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov and his father before him. Radical Islam is thriving under them in Chechnya, but does Putin care at all? Of course he doesn't because they're pro-Putin "Jihadists".

And apparently I'm the deluded one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19627632

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!

cry me a river

pre 12 godina

Russia's largest threat comes from China. Russian newspapers wrote about this a couple of months ago. There's been an increase of Chinese military personnel along the China-Russia border and weapons point toward Russia.

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.

SCP UK

pre 12 godina

@Ian UK

Typical comment from an arrogant Brit talking through their backside. You bring up Georgia, at least thats on Russia's border, your nation wages wars on other continents, not to mention the amount of the globe in the past Britain has raped and pillaged in the name of exploitation. Oh and care to mention Britain's defence (offence) budget? The hypocracy amazes me.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

@SCP UKWell it is YOUR country too. Yes Russia doesn't have the balls/ military capacity to go to war with a country other than it's imediate neighboughs, not tham I'm implying it is a good or a bad thing. I am opposed and ashamed about some of OUR country's wars in recent years, however I can sympathise with some of OUR country's wars too; of course one cannot be pro War. And when did you say you're imigrating from OUR evil country? Or did you so already and regret it ever since?

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

BRICS threatens me? No. You're just bigging it up thats all. All it is, is an annual conference/ summit. It'd be nothing without China as a member. It is China's club anyway. They aren't the equals they make themsleves out to be. China just uses the other members.

And I love your rant about the hypothetical Eurasian Union, but I have one question. Will the Balkan Orthodox countries join this hypothetical organisation before or after Disneyland?

You've got it into you head that Russia is going to be this great power once again, but what you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline. Big Vlad Putin has to rely on armed force, Jihadist puppet governments and sellotape to keep the country together. And that is why your average Joe Bloggs is happy to take a meal ticket and leave Russia, hence the decling population. Russia is having to import people from East Asia to populate St Petersburg Oblast and the surrounding areas, that is one of the most wealthy parts of Russia; yet the locals go elsewhere in search for a better life. The East Asians aren't enjoying life in St Petersburg as they fear being racially attacked in the streets and this is unfortunatly common place. So much for the mighty Russia.

Vladimir_the_Great

pre 12 godina

Russia weak? Lol, hey guys hows that missile shield coming along? Oh wait didn't they have to put those plans on hold and change locations and what not?

How about Chechnya? Georgia? How those 2 places doing now? Wasn't Georgia suppose to be joining Nato? or was that scrapped the second Russia annihilated them their western weapons systems? I remember how the White House use to refer to Georgia as a "great" ally of the US. Funny how they couldn't come to the defense of their ally. Russia doesn't a MASSIVE ground or MASSIVE navy / air force. They aren't under threat of any ground invasion from anyone... let alone China. Russian rocket technology is by far the most advanced in the world in terms of speed / pay load capacity / range. A few Russian nukes would turn to dust any invading army or any or ALL countries. Thats why they are safe and thats why NO ONE would even THINK about intervening in a Russian military conflict. If these imperialist blood suckers had the chance to take over Russia they would have done it already. Thats why they try to do it covertly from within. Putin knows their tricks and games and how to deal with them. Since Putin has been in office the west has been backpedaling on every issue with Russia. They failed in Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Serbia is slowly but surely being converted over. In another 10 years or so, lets see what else the Russians will be to "undo". Ha ha ha

Leonidas

pre 12 godina

And yes you probably fantasise over the BRIC club, but China isn't that big a fan of Russia; Russia is just convenient for China to be going on with. But they really don't trust one another. China is far superior. And Russia has a declining population with lots of unused land. China has a growing population and China keeps eyeing up all that unused land in Eastern Russia. They'll eventually have it one way or another!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

The BRICS are not a fantasy but a reality confirming the shift in the dynamics of international relations.Fantasy is the US and UK which they still project themselves as world masters albeit naked ones.The only game in town for US,UK is printing new money out of thin air and cutting welfare entitlements (in the case of UK).Here is a link:

http://galacticconnection.com/10976#

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 19:06)

Well Ian I must say I am impressed by your level of insider knowledge regarding international relations. The BRICS represents emerging economies from all parts of the world who share a common interest in providing some counter-balance to the Transatlantic alliance. BRICS isn't supposed to be some hostile enemy to the NATO countries, just another way of doing things. Why does that threaten you so much?

But your insider knowledge regarding China's view on Russia and international relations in general is quite impressive. Thank God, the petty Balkanians have a 'ahead of the curb' Western liberal to show us the way.

Oh but I'm not really thinking about BRICS. I realize the S does not stand for Serbia, although deepening relations with the BRICS collectively is a good idea.

I am more concerned with the formation of the Eurasian Union which is a union of the future for our continent. As Sreten said Russia is concerned with itself and its immediate surroundings, not every corner of the world..they don't need to be. Logically, Russia will look to do is integrate in an completely common market as well as military alliance with Belarus, Kazakhstan (and most likely Ukraine) thereby realigning the most important ex-Soviet republics.

The next logical goal would be integrating as many Orthodox Balkan countries as possible. With Ukraine, the Eurasian Union borders the Balkans and things could change rather quickly.

aaayyy

pre 12 godina

Besides who is going to invade Russia? It is in no-ones interests. I can only see China going to war with Russia in the forseeable future and Russia stands no chance!
(Ian, UK, 18 September 2012 13:16)

One could invade Russia with the same excuses one did invade Serbia. Russia is to prevent it.
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If the war between Russia and China is going to be nuke one, then China stands no chance.

Ryan M

pre 12 godina

Serbia troops should be sharpening their pencil's by attended a joint training with the Russian Military.

I don't see any real chance of war between Russia and China, two totally different countries who mind their side of the fence.

Sreten

pre 12 godina

Nothing strange here.

Putin announced long ago that he does not intent to build Soviet-like military force.
"Superpower" - means capable of projecting its power on every corner of the globe.
Example. Soviet Union had 9 aircraft carriers, Russia has 1, and that one is used to patrol waters off Siberia, as many soviet air bases were closed.
Putin merely wants to concentrate on defending Russia against all possible adversaries. Thus, they concentrate on, what they call "near abroad" - countries on their very borders.
There they don't want any force capable of challenging Russia.
Ukraine....they don't need it to be in some kind of defense block with Russia. They just don't want it to be in NATO, as that would be a challenge for Russia.
This defense policy makes every sense in their case, actually. To be "superpower" is a great military expense, and Russia really doesn't need it.
Do they need to go and fight for oil in Arab sand? No.
They have their own oil...and gas...and diamonds...and gold...and all kinds of minerals....it goes on, and on....
Russia's population is only 140 millions, and it has nearly 1/8 of world's land area with enormous mineral and energy deposits.
They just need to defend it.
"Putin. Russia must be ready to defend itself." (title)
Logical and expected.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

This is not to say that China will invade Russia. China's trying to intimidate Russia. Russia will turn to Nato for help. Specifically, they will improvie relations with the US.
(cry me a river, 18 September 2012 21:07)
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Russia turning to NATO for help? Are you kidding? NATO is a worry for Russia not a saviour.
Improving relations with the US is not a bad thing as long as they are not turned into some lapdog. Russia is not going to be intimidated by China. Why do you think China would do that? What has China got to gain by intimidating Russia in this way? You can't make these statements without clarifying them.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just think for moment when US and its allies sent 100 of thousands of troops with full war machinery and feeding them around the globe. Russia does not have that power.
(Ardi Asllani, 18 September 2012 15:43)
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And the US and her posse do not have that money any more either. They are talking about pulling out. All the US can do these days is stir trouble abroad. Let the people of those lands kill each other. Soon enough that will fail too.

Spartan

pre 12 godina

Ian Uk

Is it any better in the USA behind the scenes??? It isn't Ian, there's a lot going off in the USA that is sinister immoral and downright evil.

That country will I promise you see an uprising before 2020. The people are being ripped off by their banking and finance institutions not to mention their own bloody government.

It's not much different in the UK either. If you look at it from a broader view, the whole planet is in trouble and it's not going to get any better any time soon. You'll see that this is accurate in due time.

Thus far I've not been wrong, I wish that I was. There will be an economic collapse on a global scale and it will be the cause of misery for many of us because of a few immoral corrupt greedy rich bastards, all those at the top. They are the real enemy and it's time that all people woke to that fact and did something about it.

You've heard of divide and conquer and that's just what is taking place accross the globe, people have not yet come to realise that much of the turmoil we're seeing is all planned and orchestrated by those who are really pulling the strings behind the scenes of our so called democratic and free governments. None of us are free and some have already realised that fact.

rote

pre 12 godina

Ian, UK

“…you fail to realise is that Russia is in decline.”

Listen boy ! Semi truth is the most skillful kinda lies. Israel has population of 7 million and there are no states willing to test their strength. To say nothing of Russia. Today we are able to destroy all G-20 states within one day. So don’t waste time for preparations for our funerals. For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.

With 25 mln Russians abroad we have moral rights to expect them to be back sometimes. Asians are just gasarbeiters to help us wait for EU go bankrupt. Then we’ll be hosting English gastarbeiters. Another bad news is that the Ukraine seems to be back to he mother Russia soon. And as another Russophobe ( Z. Brzezinski ) has once said Russia + the Ukraine is a great country again … Imagine how bad he felt when he said those terrible words ! I guess it will be better that any H-bomb. You know most Russians believe that the worst enemy of ours is not the USA but the UK and so do I.

Ian, UK

pre 12 godina

(rote, 19 September 2012 19:02)

So what? The UK has enough nukes to destroy the world 20 times over (so what if the US, Russia and China can destroy the world several thousand times over, once is enough). What is your point?

But all nukes are, are simply deterrents (and that is one of the reasons why all our nukes are on submarines as you never know where on the earth they are). We have the ability to wipe any country off the face of the earth, but would we ever do that? No. Because another nuclear power could wipe us of the face of the earth in minutes. And of course in a nuclear war there are no winners, everyone is a looser. That is why they're deterrents.

And you can 'believe' what you want, but the UK and the US are not enemies of Russia; and vice versa.

And Britain and Russia are traditional allies and we have rather good diplomatic and economic relations. But if you really think that, then fair play. Many people in the UK would wear that as a badge of honour. Cheers for over estimating and over-rating us.

pss

pre 12 godina

For instance the most expected plan of elimination of the UK is supposed to be one 50 megaton H-bomb dropped in the Atlantics some 50 km away from where you try to look smart. They say it will be enough. Thus the 3 century problem of ours will be solved. As simple as that ! I guess Russia has simple solutions for all potential rivals.
rote,
Do you not realize that the moment the hint of a nuclear attack by Russia anywhere, would not result in the release of 1000 nuclear warheads toward Russian soil.
That is the reason for limiting the access of new radical countries to nuclear weapons. Once a nuclear war starts there is no stopping until the world we know is devasted and the leaders of the new world will probably come from the southern hemisphere where nuclear weapons for the most part do not exist. The leaders of the the major countries realize this.
Also the numbers do not really matter. Russia has more than 50 times the warheads of the UK, but what UK has if released quickly enough would destroy the functionality of Russia.
My advice just keep the threat of nuclear war to oneself.