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Monday, 10.09.2012.

12:10

Serbia rejects "any kind" of Kosovo's independence

PM Ivica Dačić has commented on <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=09&dd=10&nav_id=82158" class="text-link" target= "_blank">ISG's decision</a> to end Kosovo's "supervised independence" to say that Serbia does not accept any kind of independence for Kosovo.

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Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Serbia rejects "any kind" of Kosovo's independence !

What Serbia rejects and what Germany tells it to do are 2 different things...For the Serbia to continue to say 'NO' to the all mighty powerful Germans will in the end economically be the death of the Serbian nation. People can't live off 300 Euro's a month in Serbia for to much longer. Bow or die !

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

ozzi

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

heres your history, the citizens of the serbian empire migrating from kosovo in albanian clothing ofcourse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Menekulo_szerbek.JPG

you can check it out at your local belgrade art gallery

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 20:54)
In a lot of ways the internet is wonderful. One downfall is that you can find as article newsclip, video or something supporting any view on any subject you want to take. But that does not mean it is accurate, truthful, serious, or credible.
What you do have is UN resolution after resolution outlining the situation in Kosovo and Serbia in 1998-1999, you have case after case at the Hague legally documenting the crimes, you have Marty's report which states the brutality documented by Serb forces and them being universally accepted as fact.
So find your little articles and such but it is not going to change history.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Adrian

LOL.....that'll be the day!!

You lot won't do jack s..t on your own and you know it. Serbia southern border will be on the Adriatic coast before you have yours in NIS. Listen to me pal, the US is the one country behind all the crap in the Balkans and everywhere else but here is something you should understand mister. The US is going broke no matter what they tell you. There are megga problems in the USA and their own citizens are suffering, the US government try to hide these facts. They will have a very big problem sooner or later in the US and won't have the means to try and dominate the rest of the planet let alone KOSOVO. You can poo poo this as much as you like but it doesn't change the fact that this is the reality. The US is heading for a war between themselves and anyone who cannot see this coming is a fool. They don't give a damn about Albanians or Serbs not even their own people. What I am saying will become evident to all the world soon enough. My advice to Albanians in Kosovo is this, start to treat the Serbian people decently and properly, stop your murders and persecution of them or face the day when your US friends are no longer there for you to hide behind. You know what the consequences will be if you continue on the path that you are now on. Change course and do what is right, if you don't all of this evil will come back upon your own heads a thousand fold. The choice is yours Albanians.

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 11 September 2012 04:13)
We know very well which is Kosovo border. The problem you have dear is that from 13 years you cannot send a single policeman or custom office man in your constitutional southborder. You are the only state in the world (including Kosova) that cannot do this.

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No matter how the want to spin it, a fully independent Kosovo under albanian rule will never function correctly if it even gets to that point.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)

Ben-London-Prizren

pre 11 godina

Du you people have a job or live on state founds, get a job and get a life.

Kosovo is gone,,, finish finito ende , the end .

John

pre 11 godina

This is why I voted for Mr. Dacic,
Strong leader, speaks his mind.
Nato will have to stay there forever, because it will never be an independent country.

benjamin

pre 11 godina

MikeC, forget EU, USA , Russia and …. The rest of the world.
Tell me one thing: Have you in your life lived with 200 – 300 Euro per month? I am 100% sure not , aslo I am 100 % sure you are not living in Serbia. I know you get nervous and your stomack burns when you read, listen or think about giving up Kosovo , it’s true. But the thing is you can’t do nothing. The serb had chances to save Kosovo but they decided to go in “all or nothing during 1990-1999”, so the result you know “NIL”, and very bad bad name for serbs on the world. Don’t watch only the networks which you like but be realistic and browse all internet , and believe me you can find a lot of sources which says about crimes on Kosovo committed by Serbs , its fact my friend , you can’t hide under the carpet. Now we are on 21 century and everything is published. Yes. Its true also for burning of homes and churches , but don’t forget one thing “who started first”, You know how much was percentage of burning of buildings and mosques from serbs ( you can not believe). Don’t even think about crimes, the albanians kids without head , this has no any comments.
As for mass expulsion , the serbs started first and in very bad manner “ all albanians out”
Last one MikeC, I know you will not agree with me, but I am sure you know the balkan traditional word: when the train goes, its done, you can’t catch it. The serbs lost it during 1990-1999. Must wait another train , but you don’t know what rules brings it on!!!
Cheers!!!

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Ecoman
I am with you only about peace and of course the Serbia is beatiful , also Kosovo is beatiful , don’t you agree??.
The other stuff which you wrote here , it is not real, is more stuff for the peoples when they go to the church .
Now let me tell you one thing: Doesn’t matter what language I speak, the important is the opinion. Somebody tell the reality , somebody dreams (like you).
Hey Ecoman, who is trying to erase the Kosovo, no my dear friend , but what the democratic world is trying to do here is to bring the peace. Of course Mecca is still islam and Jerusalem is still judaism no doubt, but what the hell you linked with Kosovo, AMAZING!!! Yes , you are nervous , but you can’t change nothing ,its DONE DONE FOREVER!!!!
Understand one thing always, always the Kosovo will belong to the peoples who live there. Now be real just 1 minute in your life and compare 95 % with 5 % . Now to whom must belong Mecca and Jerusalem. Its ridiculous what you have posted , and that is the problem with the most of serbs living in diaspora !!!!.(West Europe and USA, Canada and Australia).
How the things are going in Serbia . Mr Ecoman , you must hope to stay as it is (land) because to return the land (KOSOVO) where other peoples are living there , NEVER, forget it.
Move on Ecoman, we are on 21 century and not 19 ones.
Cheers!!!

Zoran

pre 11 godina

No recognition of Kosovo as independent State, No EU accession......! Russia accession yes, but not EU!
(drini., 10 September 2012 18:37)
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No EU for Serbia (which would be very welcomed) = No EU for "Kosova"* (which K*-Albanians wouldn't like). Hmm, looks like you lose again.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Hahahaha, EA, you still writing that same old Cyprus crap you been doing for years now. You ever get tired? Serbia does not care about EU membership, especially with this current government. Have you noticed the activity between Belgrade and Moscow recently? Wake up. Serbia plays the EU on, just like the EU has played Serbia for years. The EU does not want Serbia in the Union, just want to control Serbia. Countries much larger, and with stronger economies are on the verge of collapse, and members of the EU, so you really think that Brussels is eager to take Serbia under its wings. That is a joke for children. EA, all of this EU membership talk is pure political jibber jabber, nothing else. If Serbia really wanted membership, it would have relinquished KiM, been better in cleaning up corruption, and installed a pure western leaning government - the opposite has happened.
I know you are dying to have Serbia recognize an independent Albanian KiM, but you will, well, very well die before that happens.

drini.

pre 11 godina

This name (SPARTAN)has nothing in common with the Serbs,and varies as the moon from the sun, If you think to steal the histori and territory as have the habit is something else. Until the time comes to attack us militarily and retake Kosovo, I think it would not need NATO aid because then we will be enough strong with a sophisticated army to confront the aggressor. What do you think!
Thank you.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Albanians, your Kosova is based on a lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck
Also, go to Youtube, and type in "It started with a lie", it is a German documentary, and you will start to see what the truth is about the Kosovo conflict.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

New day, please stop the same, tired, and old Western media accounts of what happened in KiM during the 90's. No one buys that crap anymore. Please listen to this link, by someone who knows, it may enlighten you? You will not like it, but listen. The world, including Kosovo Albanian citizens, were lied to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Koha, are you trying to say that Serbia is not a sovereign nation, and not a member of the UN? Please explain that to Mr. Jeremic, you can see him wondering around the UN in New York, most days. Get real!

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Listen well all you who think that all Serbs are falling over themselves to be in the EU. WRONG!!!

We couldn't give a rats ass about the EU, not today or any damn day.
Kosovo on the other hand will not always be in the hands of NATO/KLA gangsters. We will get it back as we have always done throughout our history. We have been surrounded by our enemies many times before and they have always lost in the end, the same will come again and we are waiting for our moment and next time won't be so forgiving. So you big heroes hiding behind NATO, make the most of it because it will not last and that scares you to death. We will come and take our land back. Have a nice day Albanians.

EA

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

Do you really think that EU will accept Serbia without recognising officially Kosovo independence first....and that because Dadic say five other EU members haven't done so? Think really hard! It is not really hard but try harder! What makes you think that the EU will need another Cyprus? Kosovo is much more Albanian than Sebian...depend what glasses you wear to see it and also what time of history you refer to.....

MikeC

pre 11 godina

benjamin

If your idea of peace is based on snatching someones elses territory and then demanding that Serbia accepts it without hesitation then what presedent does that set for the rest of the world. The question here is not about recognizing Kosovo or not. Its about standing up for something that is wrong. It is wrong to take Kosovo away from Serbia without taking into consideration the murdering of serbs, the burning of their homes and churches. Accepting an independent Kosovo is accepting the mass expulsion and killing of serbs. Even if the cost for Serbia is to stay out of the EU its worth it as long as Kosovo is in limbo.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Benjamin, I am at a loss in how to respond to your post. First of all, I appreciate you trying to comment in English, it is obviously not your mother tongue. Secondly, I am not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that Serbia should, after more than one and a half millennium history in KiM, just walk away and give their land and history to the Albanians? Do you not see something wrong with that request? Regardless of America's and the EU's nation-building project in South East Europe, KiM will always, understand, always, be a part of Serbia. No one can erase that. It is like erasing Mecca from Islam, or Jerusalem from Judaism. It will not happen. Would it not be wiser to talk, negotiate, and find a solution to all the peoples that have a history in KiM, than to try and rip that land away from the Serbs? All I know is this, empires have come, and they have gone, but history cannot be eradicated or altered. KiM is Serbia, and always will be. Serbian heritage is there, it cannot be erased, never. And the day will come, I think we all know it, not sure when, but the land will returned to its rightful owner. Peace to all on this beautiful September day, from beautiful Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, yes I am sure LOL! And Albania will win the world cup, and Rita Ora will win 3 Grammy's next year...pfft. I don't know if you belong in a circus or a insane asylum. How do you plan on 'surprising' us? With what? Are you physically capable of doing anything to Serbs who are not 60 year old seniors or 14 year old girls? Come on if we weren't living with you all these years maybe we would be scared but we know you we know what you are capable of and other than raping girls and extracting organs.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 13:23)
You like to dream don't you! Try living in reality for a while. To date, no ne has been able to show credibility of witnesses in the case. And as horrendous as it is, were it true it will always be far overshadowed by the criminal acts documented against Serb forces in the balkans.
As far as embarassment of the US and others in supporting the Albanians, I think they will survive. Even if it is ever truly believed by the world, you still have case after case after case from the ICTY, to show that western intervention was not only warranted but would have been a true embarassment if they had not intervened.
Get out of the Serbian press for a while and see actually how much is printed on the subject. You find mostly "opinion" pieces and occasionally a jounalistic piece usually pinned by someone with ties to Serbia.
If these rumors are ever proven then the perpetrators should be punished the same as the Serbian War Criminals in the Hague but it will never erase the deeds done to the Albanian people at the hands of the Serbian govt.

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Mr Dacic , listen the voice from one European citizen who care about peace between the peoples / nations. Forget Kosovo ,you need to learn or take experience from your teacher / Dad Mr. Milosevic.
Because if you don't stop and think now about rest of Serbia (without Kosovo of course)"How to bring better life to the Serbian citizens ( without Kosovo citizens of course)" you must be sure in one thing : Still problems will evaluate and those will be Presevo, Sandjak, Vojvodina and .... even Serbian peoples will start leaving the Serbian country (because the number of 10000 children with one meal per day for sure will be increased).
So, STOP AND THINK, the serbian peoples in Serbia (excluding those in Kosovo, because there must Kosovo government think about them and not you) gave you vote to think for them the better life.

Cheers!!!

Koha

pre 11 godina

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Council, Which isn't the case with Kosovo...
________________________________________________________

Yes the 5 Permanent Members of UN Security Council which isn't the case with Serbia*

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Are you smarter than Dacic, EA? Have you progressed in life as far as this man, which you claim is dumb? You, EA, only see the nationalistic Albanian point of view, and not any other. Do you honestly believe that Serbs, with their long and meaningful history in KiM, do not have a rightful claim to that territory? KiM has always, legally belonged to Serbia, not Albania, so I do not understand why Serbs should now, in your opinion, just walk away from their land? I'm sorry, but you may not be all that sharp yourself.

eric

pre 11 godina

"How can accepting Kosovo's independence be a condition (for Serbia) when there are EU countries that have not accepted it," Dačić wondered.

Because you get a veto and you don't get in the EU, even a retarded person (like you) knows that

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN.(Adrian)

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Counsel, Which isn't thecase with Kosovo*

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Adrian, why the tough and threatening talk? Is that good neighborly relations? Serbia is taking care of its own problems, attempting to get out of its financial and political mess, like most of the world, by the way, but what does that have to do with KiM? Why should Serbia just walk away from its historic land? To satisfy Western nation-builders, and separatist Albanians that have been scheming to rip KiM away from Serbia since the League of Prizren, and earlier? No, Adrian, Serbia will not give up on its Southern province, and if Albanians come to Nis, it will be to buy some lovely domestic Serbian peppers. I mean really, what is going on in your head? Is the ROSA going to make an offensive on Nis? I think you need counseling.

Adrian

pre 11 godina

So what?

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN. Serbs, you should begin to take care for your economic problems. Kosova has gone. If you hope that you will enter Kosovo by violence again, prepare your self for a big surprise. You can't rule over albanians agian, as Milosevic did. If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

The international community would like nothing better than to have the KLA organ-harvesting allegations to go away, for it places them in the awkward position of having supported criminals against humanity. Imagine what the headlines around the world would look like, when witnesses start presenting the horror that went on in KiM and Albania, all under the watchful eyes of the West. The US used these murderous separatists in KiM, the KLA, to achieve their goals the Balkans. This video explains it well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhgwdJldeU

Adrian

pre 11 godina

So what?

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN. Serbs, you should begin to take care for your economic problems. Kosova has gone. If you hope that you will enter Kosovo by violence again, prepare your self for a big surprise. You can't rule over albanians agian, as Milosevic did. If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

The international community would like nothing better than to have the KLA organ-harvesting allegations to go away, for it places them in the awkward position of having supported criminals against humanity. Imagine what the headlines around the world would look like, when witnesses start presenting the horror that went on in KiM and Albania, all under the watchful eyes of the West. The US used these murderous separatists in KiM, the KLA, to achieve their goals the Balkans. This video explains it well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhgwdJldeU

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Adrian, why the tough and threatening talk? Is that good neighborly relations? Serbia is taking care of its own problems, attempting to get out of its financial and political mess, like most of the world, by the way, but what does that have to do with KiM? Why should Serbia just walk away from its historic land? To satisfy Western nation-builders, and separatist Albanians that have been scheming to rip KiM away from Serbia since the League of Prizren, and earlier? No, Adrian, Serbia will not give up on its Southern province, and if Albanians come to Nis, it will be to buy some lovely domestic Serbian peppers. I mean really, what is going on in your head? Is the ROSA going to make an offensive on Nis? I think you need counseling.

eric

pre 11 godina

"How can accepting Kosovo's independence be a condition (for Serbia) when there are EU countries that have not accepted it," Dačić wondered.

Because you get a veto and you don't get in the EU, even a retarded person (like you) knows that

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Listen well all you who think that all Serbs are falling over themselves to be in the EU. WRONG!!!

We couldn't give a rats ass about the EU, not today or any damn day.
Kosovo on the other hand will not always be in the hands of NATO/KLA gangsters. We will get it back as we have always done throughout our history. We have been surrounded by our enemies many times before and they have always lost in the end, the same will come again and we are waiting for our moment and next time won't be so forgiving. So you big heroes hiding behind NATO, make the most of it because it will not last and that scares you to death. We will come and take our land back. Have a nice day Albanians.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Are you smarter than Dacic, EA? Have you progressed in life as far as this man, which you claim is dumb? You, EA, only see the nationalistic Albanian point of view, and not any other. Do you honestly believe that Serbs, with their long and meaningful history in KiM, do not have a rightful claim to that territory? KiM has always, legally belonged to Serbia, not Albania, so I do not understand why Serbs should now, in your opinion, just walk away from their land? I'm sorry, but you may not be all that sharp yourself.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, yes I am sure LOL! And Albania will win the world cup, and Rita Ora will win 3 Grammy's next year...pfft. I don't know if you belong in a circus or a insane asylum. How do you plan on 'surprising' us? With what? Are you physically capable of doing anything to Serbs who are not 60 year old seniors or 14 year old girls? Come on if we weren't living with you all these years maybe we would be scared but we know you we know what you are capable of and other than raping girls and extracting organs.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN.(Adrian)

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Counsel, Which isn't thecase with Kosovo*

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Mr Dacic , listen the voice from one European citizen who care about peace between the peoples / nations. Forget Kosovo ,you need to learn or take experience from your teacher / Dad Mr. Milosevic.
Because if you don't stop and think now about rest of Serbia (without Kosovo of course)"How to bring better life to the Serbian citizens ( without Kosovo citizens of course)" you must be sure in one thing : Still problems will evaluate and those will be Presevo, Sandjak, Vojvodina and .... even Serbian peoples will start leaving the Serbian country (because the number of 10000 children with one meal per day for sure will be increased).
So, STOP AND THINK, the serbian peoples in Serbia (excluding those in Kosovo, because there must Kosovo government think about them and not you) gave you vote to think for them the better life.

Cheers!!!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

benjamin

If your idea of peace is based on snatching someones elses territory and then demanding that Serbia accepts it without hesitation then what presedent does that set for the rest of the world. The question here is not about recognizing Kosovo or not. Its about standing up for something that is wrong. It is wrong to take Kosovo away from Serbia without taking into consideration the murdering of serbs, the burning of their homes and churches. Accepting an independent Kosovo is accepting the mass expulsion and killing of serbs. Even if the cost for Serbia is to stay out of the EU its worth it as long as Kosovo is in limbo.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Koha, are you trying to say that Serbia is not a sovereign nation, and not a member of the UN? Please explain that to Mr. Jeremic, you can see him wondering around the UN in New York, most days. Get real!

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Benjamin, I am at a loss in how to respond to your post. First of all, I appreciate you trying to comment in English, it is obviously not your mother tongue. Secondly, I am not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that Serbia should, after more than one and a half millennium history in KiM, just walk away and give their land and history to the Albanians? Do you not see something wrong with that request? Regardless of America's and the EU's nation-building project in South East Europe, KiM will always, understand, always, be a part of Serbia. No one can erase that. It is like erasing Mecca from Islam, or Jerusalem from Judaism. It will not happen. Would it not be wiser to talk, negotiate, and find a solution to all the peoples that have a history in KiM, than to try and rip that land away from the Serbs? All I know is this, empires have come, and they have gone, but history cannot be eradicated or altered. KiM is Serbia, and always will be. Serbian heritage is there, it cannot be erased, never. And the day will come, I think we all know it, not sure when, but the land will returned to its rightful owner. Peace to all on this beautiful September day, from beautiful Serbia.

benjamin

pre 11 godina

MikeC, forget EU, USA , Russia and …. The rest of the world.
Tell me one thing: Have you in your life lived with 200 – 300 Euro per month? I am 100% sure not , aslo I am 100 % sure you are not living in Serbia. I know you get nervous and your stomack burns when you read, listen or think about giving up Kosovo , it’s true. But the thing is you can’t do nothing. The serb had chances to save Kosovo but they decided to go in “all or nothing during 1990-1999”, so the result you know “NIL”, and very bad bad name for serbs on the world. Don’t watch only the networks which you like but be realistic and browse all internet , and believe me you can find a lot of sources which says about crimes on Kosovo committed by Serbs , its fact my friend , you can’t hide under the carpet. Now we are on 21 century and everything is published. Yes. Its true also for burning of homes and churches , but don’t forget one thing “who started first”, You know how much was percentage of burning of buildings and mosques from serbs ( you can not believe). Don’t even think about crimes, the albanians kids without head , this has no any comments.
As for mass expulsion , the serbs started first and in very bad manner “ all albanians out”
Last one MikeC, I know you will not agree with me, but I am sure you know the balkan traditional word: when the train goes, its done, you can’t catch it. The serbs lost it during 1990-1999. Must wait another train , but you don’t know what rules brings it on!!!
Cheers!!!

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Ecoman
I am with you only about peace and of course the Serbia is beatiful , also Kosovo is beatiful , don’t you agree??.
The other stuff which you wrote here , it is not real, is more stuff for the peoples when they go to the church .
Now let me tell you one thing: Doesn’t matter what language I speak, the important is the opinion. Somebody tell the reality , somebody dreams (like you).
Hey Ecoman, who is trying to erase the Kosovo, no my dear friend , but what the democratic world is trying to do here is to bring the peace. Of course Mecca is still islam and Jerusalem is still judaism no doubt, but what the hell you linked with Kosovo, AMAZING!!! Yes , you are nervous , but you can’t change nothing ,its DONE DONE FOREVER!!!!
Understand one thing always, always the Kosovo will belong to the peoples who live there. Now be real just 1 minute in your life and compare 95 % with 5 % . Now to whom must belong Mecca and Jerusalem. Its ridiculous what you have posted , and that is the problem with the most of serbs living in diaspora !!!!.(West Europe and USA, Canada and Australia).
How the things are going in Serbia . Mr Ecoman , you must hope to stay as it is (land) because to return the land (KOSOVO) where other peoples are living there , NEVER, forget it.
Move on Ecoman, we are on 21 century and not 19 ones.
Cheers!!!

Koha

pre 11 godina

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Council, Which isn't the case with Kosovo...
________________________________________________________

Yes the 5 Permanent Members of UN Security Council which isn't the case with Serbia*

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Albanians, your Kosova is based on a lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck
Also, go to Youtube, and type in "It started with a lie", it is a German documentary, and you will start to see what the truth is about the Kosovo conflict.

John

pre 11 godina

This is why I voted for Mr. Dacic,
Strong leader, speaks his mind.
Nato will have to stay there forever, because it will never be an independent country.

EA

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

Do you really think that EU will accept Serbia without recognising officially Kosovo independence first....and that because Dadic say five other EU members haven't done so? Think really hard! It is not really hard but try harder! What makes you think that the EU will need another Cyprus? Kosovo is much more Albanian than Sebian...depend what glasses you wear to see it and also what time of history you refer to.....

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 13:23)
You like to dream don't you! Try living in reality for a while. To date, no ne has been able to show credibility of witnesses in the case. And as horrendous as it is, were it true it will always be far overshadowed by the criminal acts documented against Serb forces in the balkans.
As far as embarassment of the US and others in supporting the Albanians, I think they will survive. Even if it is ever truly believed by the world, you still have case after case after case from the ICTY, to show that western intervention was not only warranted but would have been a true embarassment if they had not intervened.
Get out of the Serbian press for a while and see actually how much is printed on the subject. You find mostly "opinion" pieces and occasionally a jounalistic piece usually pinned by someone with ties to Serbia.
If these rumors are ever proven then the perpetrators should be punished the same as the Serbian War Criminals in the Hague but it will never erase the deeds done to the Albanian people at the hands of the Serbian govt.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

New day, please stop the same, tired, and old Western media accounts of what happened in KiM during the 90's. No one buys that crap anymore. Please listen to this link, by someone who knows, it may enlighten you? You will not like it, but listen. The world, including Kosovo Albanian citizens, were lied to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck

Zoran

pre 11 godina

No recognition of Kosovo as independent State, No EU accession......! Russia accession yes, but not EU!
(drini., 10 September 2012 18:37)
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No EU for Serbia (which would be very welcomed) = No EU for "Kosova"* (which K*-Albanians wouldn't like). Hmm, looks like you lose again.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Hahahaha, EA, you still writing that same old Cyprus crap you been doing for years now. You ever get tired? Serbia does not care about EU membership, especially with this current government. Have you noticed the activity between Belgrade and Moscow recently? Wake up. Serbia plays the EU on, just like the EU has played Serbia for years. The EU does not want Serbia in the Union, just want to control Serbia. Countries much larger, and with stronger economies are on the verge of collapse, and members of the EU, so you really think that Brussels is eager to take Serbia under its wings. That is a joke for children. EA, all of this EU membership talk is pure political jibber jabber, nothing else. If Serbia really wanted membership, it would have relinquished KiM, been better in cleaning up corruption, and installed a pure western leaning government - the opposite has happened.
I know you are dying to have Serbia recognize an independent Albanian KiM, but you will, well, very well die before that happens.

drini.

pre 11 godina

This name (SPARTAN)has nothing in common with the Serbs,and varies as the moon from the sun, If you think to steal the histori and territory as have the habit is something else. Until the time comes to attack us militarily and retake Kosovo, I think it would not need NATO aid because then we will be enough strong with a sophisticated army to confront the aggressor. What do you think!
Thank you.

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No matter how the want to spin it, a fully independent Kosovo under albanian rule will never function correctly if it even gets to that point.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Adrian

LOL.....that'll be the day!!

You lot won't do jack s..t on your own and you know it. Serbia southern border will be on the Adriatic coast before you have yours in NIS. Listen to me pal, the US is the one country behind all the crap in the Balkans and everywhere else but here is something you should understand mister. The US is going broke no matter what they tell you. There are megga problems in the USA and their own citizens are suffering, the US government try to hide these facts. They will have a very big problem sooner or later in the US and won't have the means to try and dominate the rest of the planet let alone KOSOVO. You can poo poo this as much as you like but it doesn't change the fact that this is the reality. The US is heading for a war between themselves and anyone who cannot see this coming is a fool. They don't give a damn about Albanians or Serbs not even their own people. What I am saying will become evident to all the world soon enough. My advice to Albanians in Kosovo is this, start to treat the Serbian people decently and properly, stop your murders and persecution of them or face the day when your US friends are no longer there for you to hide behind. You know what the consequences will be if you continue on the path that you are now on. Change course and do what is right, if you don't all of this evil will come back upon your own heads a thousand fold. The choice is yours Albanians.

ozzi

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

heres your history, the citizens of the serbian empire migrating from kosovo in albanian clothing ofcourse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Menekulo_szerbek.JPG

you can check it out at your local belgrade art gallery

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

Ben-London-Prizren

pre 11 godina

Du you people have a job or live on state founds, get a job and get a life.

Kosovo is gone,,, finish finito ende , the end .

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 20:54)
In a lot of ways the internet is wonderful. One downfall is that you can find as article newsclip, video or something supporting any view on any subject you want to take. But that does not mean it is accurate, truthful, serious, or credible.
What you do have is UN resolution after resolution outlining the situation in Kosovo and Serbia in 1998-1999, you have case after case at the Hague legally documenting the crimes, you have Marty's report which states the brutality documented by Serb forces and them being universally accepted as fact.
So find your little articles and such but it is not going to change history.

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 11 September 2012 04:13)
We know very well which is Kosovo border. The problem you have dear is that from 13 years you cannot send a single policeman or custom office man in your constitutional southborder. You are the only state in the world (including Kosova) that cannot do this.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Serbia rejects "any kind" of Kosovo's independence !

What Serbia rejects and what Germany tells it to do are 2 different things...For the Serbia to continue to say 'NO' to the all mighty powerful Germans will in the end economically be the death of the Serbian nation. People can't live off 300 Euro's a month in Serbia for to much longer. Bow or die !

ecoman

pre 11 godina

The international community would like nothing better than to have the KLA organ-harvesting allegations to go away, for it places them in the awkward position of having supported criminals against humanity. Imagine what the headlines around the world would look like, when witnesses start presenting the horror that went on in KiM and Albania, all under the watchful eyes of the West. The US used these murderous separatists in KiM, the KLA, to achieve their goals the Balkans. This video explains it well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEhgwdJldeU

Adrian

pre 11 godina

So what?

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN. Serbs, you should begin to take care for your economic problems. Kosova has gone. If you hope that you will enter Kosovo by violence again, prepare your self for a big surprise. You can't rule over albanians agian, as Milosevic did. If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Are you smarter than Dacic, EA? Have you progressed in life as far as this man, which you claim is dumb? You, EA, only see the nationalistic Albanian point of view, and not any other. Do you honestly believe that Serbs, with their long and meaningful history in KiM, do not have a rightful claim to that territory? KiM has always, legally belonged to Serbia, not Albania, so I do not understand why Serbs should now, in your opinion, just walk away from their land? I'm sorry, but you may not be all that sharp yourself.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Israel is not recognised by more than 30 UN countries, and is member of UN.(Adrian)

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Counsel, Which isn't thecase with Kosovo*

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Mr Dacic , listen the voice from one European citizen who care about peace between the peoples / nations. Forget Kosovo ,you need to learn or take experience from your teacher / Dad Mr. Milosevic.
Because if you don't stop and think now about rest of Serbia (without Kosovo of course)"How to bring better life to the Serbian citizens ( without Kosovo citizens of course)" you must be sure in one thing : Still problems will evaluate and those will be Presevo, Sandjak, Vojvodina and .... even Serbian peoples will start leaving the Serbian country (because the number of 10000 children with one meal per day for sure will be increased).
So, STOP AND THINK, the serbian peoples in Serbia (excluding those in Kosovo, because there must Kosovo government think about them and not you) gave you vote to think for them the better life.

Cheers!!!

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Adrian, why the tough and threatening talk? Is that good neighborly relations? Serbia is taking care of its own problems, attempting to get out of its financial and political mess, like most of the world, by the way, but what does that have to do with KiM? Why should Serbia just walk away from its historic land? To satisfy Western nation-builders, and separatist Albanians that have been scheming to rip KiM away from Serbia since the League of Prizren, and earlier? No, Adrian, Serbia will not give up on its Southern province, and if Albanians come to Nis, it will be to buy some lovely domestic Serbian peppers. I mean really, what is going on in your head? Is the ROSA going to make an offensive on Nis? I think you need counseling.

eric

pre 11 godina

"How can accepting Kosovo's independence be a condition (for Serbia) when there are EU countries that have not accepted it," Dačić wondered.

Because you get a veto and you don't get in the EU, even a retarded person (like you) knows that

Koha

pre 11 godina

Probably because Israel is recognized by all 5 Permanent Members of Security Council, Which isn't the case with Kosovo...
________________________________________________________

Yes the 5 Permanent Members of UN Security Council which isn't the case with Serbia*

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 13:23)
You like to dream don't you! Try living in reality for a while. To date, no ne has been able to show credibility of witnesses in the case. And as horrendous as it is, were it true it will always be far overshadowed by the criminal acts documented against Serb forces in the balkans.
As far as embarassment of the US and others in supporting the Albanians, I think they will survive. Even if it is ever truly believed by the world, you still have case after case after case from the ICTY, to show that western intervention was not only warranted but would have been a true embarassment if they had not intervened.
Get out of the Serbian press for a while and see actually how much is printed on the subject. You find mostly "opinion" pieces and occasionally a jounalistic piece usually pinned by someone with ties to Serbia.
If these rumors are ever proven then the perpetrators should be punished the same as the Serbian War Criminals in the Hague but it will never erase the deeds done to the Albanian people at the hands of the Serbian govt.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Benjamin, I am at a loss in how to respond to your post. First of all, I appreciate you trying to comment in English, it is obviously not your mother tongue. Secondly, I am not quite sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying that Serbia should, after more than one and a half millennium history in KiM, just walk away and give their land and history to the Albanians? Do you not see something wrong with that request? Regardless of America's and the EU's nation-building project in South East Europe, KiM will always, understand, always, be a part of Serbia. No one can erase that. It is like erasing Mecca from Islam, or Jerusalem from Judaism. It will not happen. Would it not be wiser to talk, negotiate, and find a solution to all the peoples that have a history in KiM, than to try and rip that land away from the Serbs? All I know is this, empires have come, and they have gone, but history cannot be eradicated or altered. KiM is Serbia, and always will be. Serbian heritage is there, it cannot be erased, never. And the day will come, I think we all know it, not sure when, but the land will returned to its rightful owner. Peace to all on this beautiful September day, from beautiful Serbia.

John

pre 11 godina

This is why I voted for Mr. Dacic,
Strong leader, speaks his mind.
Nato will have to stay there forever, because it will never be an independent country.

EA

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

Do you really think that EU will accept Serbia without recognising officially Kosovo independence first....and that because Dadic say five other EU members haven't done so? Think really hard! It is not really hard but try harder! What makes you think that the EU will need another Cyprus? Kosovo is much more Albanian than Sebian...depend what glasses you wear to see it and also what time of history you refer to.....

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, yes I am sure LOL! And Albania will win the world cup, and Rita Ora will win 3 Grammy's next year...pfft. I don't know if you belong in a circus or a insane asylum. How do you plan on 'surprising' us? With what? Are you physically capable of doing anything to Serbs who are not 60 year old seniors or 14 year old girls? Come on if we weren't living with you all these years maybe we would be scared but we know you we know what you are capable of and other than raping girls and extracting organs.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Listen well all you who think that all Serbs are falling over themselves to be in the EU. WRONG!!!

We couldn't give a rats ass about the EU, not today or any damn day.
Kosovo on the other hand will not always be in the hands of NATO/KLA gangsters. We will get it back as we have always done throughout our history. We have been surrounded by our enemies many times before and they have always lost in the end, the same will come again and we are waiting for our moment and next time won't be so forgiving. So you big heroes hiding behind NATO, make the most of it because it will not last and that scares you to death. We will come and take our land back. Have a nice day Albanians.

benjamin

pre 11 godina

MikeC, forget EU, USA , Russia and …. The rest of the world.
Tell me one thing: Have you in your life lived with 200 – 300 Euro per month? I am 100% sure not , aslo I am 100 % sure you are not living in Serbia. I know you get nervous and your stomack burns when you read, listen or think about giving up Kosovo , it’s true. But the thing is you can’t do nothing. The serb had chances to save Kosovo but they decided to go in “all or nothing during 1990-1999”, so the result you know “NIL”, and very bad bad name for serbs on the world. Don’t watch only the networks which you like but be realistic and browse all internet , and believe me you can find a lot of sources which says about crimes on Kosovo committed by Serbs , its fact my friend , you can’t hide under the carpet. Now we are on 21 century and everything is published. Yes. Its true also for burning of homes and churches , but don’t forget one thing “who started first”, You know how much was percentage of burning of buildings and mosques from serbs ( you can not believe). Don’t even think about crimes, the albanians kids without head , this has no any comments.
As for mass expulsion , the serbs started first and in very bad manner “ all albanians out”
Last one MikeC, I know you will not agree with me, but I am sure you know the balkan traditional word: when the train goes, its done, you can’t catch it. The serbs lost it during 1990-1999. Must wait another train , but you don’t know what rules brings it on!!!
Cheers!!!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

benjamin

If your idea of peace is based on snatching someones elses territory and then demanding that Serbia accepts it without hesitation then what presedent does that set for the rest of the world. The question here is not about recognizing Kosovo or not. Its about standing up for something that is wrong. It is wrong to take Kosovo away from Serbia without taking into consideration the murdering of serbs, the burning of their homes and churches. Accepting an independent Kosovo is accepting the mass expulsion and killing of serbs. Even if the cost for Serbia is to stay out of the EU its worth it as long as Kosovo is in limbo.

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Koha, are you trying to say that Serbia is not a sovereign nation, and not a member of the UN? Please explain that to Mr. Jeremic, you can see him wondering around the UN in New York, most days. Get real!

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Albanians, your Kosova is based on a lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck
Also, go to Youtube, and type in "It started with a lie", it is a German documentary, and you will start to see what the truth is about the Kosovo conflict.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

No recognition of Kosovo as independent State, No EU accession......! Russia accession yes, but not EU!
(drini., 10 September 2012 18:37)
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No EU for Serbia (which would be very welcomed) = No EU for "Kosova"* (which K*-Albanians wouldn't like). Hmm, looks like you lose again.

drini.

pre 11 godina

This name (SPARTAN)has nothing in common with the Serbs,and varies as the moon from the sun, If you think to steal the histori and territory as have the habit is something else. Until the time comes to attack us militarily and retake Kosovo, I think it would not need NATO aid because then we will be enough strong with a sophisticated army to confront the aggressor. What do you think!
Thank you.

benjamin

pre 11 godina

Ecoman
I am with you only about peace and of course the Serbia is beatiful , also Kosovo is beatiful , don’t you agree??.
The other stuff which you wrote here , it is not real, is more stuff for the peoples when they go to the church .
Now let me tell you one thing: Doesn’t matter what language I speak, the important is the opinion. Somebody tell the reality , somebody dreams (like you).
Hey Ecoman, who is trying to erase the Kosovo, no my dear friend , but what the democratic world is trying to do here is to bring the peace. Of course Mecca is still islam and Jerusalem is still judaism no doubt, but what the hell you linked with Kosovo, AMAZING!!! Yes , you are nervous , but you can’t change nothing ,its DONE DONE FOREVER!!!!
Understand one thing always, always the Kosovo will belong to the peoples who live there. Now be real just 1 minute in your life and compare 95 % with 5 % . Now to whom must belong Mecca and Jerusalem. Its ridiculous what you have posted , and that is the problem with the most of serbs living in diaspora !!!!.(West Europe and USA, Canada and Australia).
How the things are going in Serbia . Mr Ecoman , you must hope to stay as it is (land) because to return the land (KOSOVO) where other peoples are living there , NEVER, forget it.
Move on Ecoman, we are on 21 century and not 19 ones.
Cheers!!!

ecoman

pre 11 godina

New day, please stop the same, tired, and old Western media accounts of what happened in KiM during the 90's. No one buys that crap anymore. Please listen to this link, by someone who knows, it may enlighten you? You will not like it, but listen. The world, including Kosovo Albanian citizens, were lied to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOeJAJet1Ck

ecoman

pre 11 godina

Hahahaha, EA, you still writing that same old Cyprus crap you been doing for years now. You ever get tired? Serbia does not care about EU membership, especially with this current government. Have you noticed the activity between Belgrade and Moscow recently? Wake up. Serbia plays the EU on, just like the EU has played Serbia for years. The EU does not want Serbia in the Union, just want to control Serbia. Countries much larger, and with stronger economies are on the verge of collapse, and members of the EU, so you really think that Brussels is eager to take Serbia under its wings. That is a joke for children. EA, all of this EU membership talk is pure political jibber jabber, nothing else. If Serbia really wanted membership, it would have relinquished KiM, been better in cleaning up corruption, and installed a pure western leaning government - the opposite has happened.
I know you are dying to have Serbia recognize an independent Albanian KiM, but you will, well, very well die before that happens.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

If you try it again, we swear that border between Kosovo and Serbia will be somewhere in Nis.
(Adrian, 10 September 2012 15:00)

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)

Dennis

pre 11 godina

No matter how the want to spin it, a fully independent Kosovo under albanian rule will never function correctly if it even gets to that point.

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

Haiti

pre 11 godina

I read that according to Serbdom, they believe that the earth is flat and they refuse to accept that the earth is round. They "reject" that too, even though in reality it is rounded.

Ben-London-Prizren

pre 11 godina

Du you people have a job or live on state founds, get a job and get a life.

Kosovo is gone,,, finish finito ende , the end .

dori tirana

pre 11 godina

LOL before you shoot blanks again, first try to convince the world your "border" is north of the Ibar. Better yet, please try to convince the world your "country" is "independent" :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 11 September 2012 04:13)
We know very well which is Kosovo border. The problem you have dear is that from 13 years you cannot send a single policeman or custom office man in your constitutional southborder. You are the only state in the world (including Kosova) that cannot do this.

Spartan

pre 11 godina

Adrian

LOL.....that'll be the day!!

You lot won't do jack s..t on your own and you know it. Serbia southern border will be on the Adriatic coast before you have yours in NIS. Listen to me pal, the US is the one country behind all the crap in the Balkans and everywhere else but here is something you should understand mister. The US is going broke no matter what they tell you. There are megga problems in the USA and their own citizens are suffering, the US government try to hide these facts. They will have a very big problem sooner or later in the US and won't have the means to try and dominate the rest of the planet let alone KOSOVO. You can poo poo this as much as you like but it doesn't change the fact that this is the reality. The US is heading for a war between themselves and anyone who cannot see this coming is a fool. They don't give a damn about Albanians or Serbs not even their own people. What I am saying will become evident to all the world soon enough. My advice to Albanians in Kosovo is this, start to treat the Serbian people decently and properly, stop your murders and persecution of them or face the day when your US friends are no longer there for you to hide behind. You know what the consequences will be if you continue on the path that you are now on. Change course and do what is right, if you don't all of this evil will come back upon your own heads a thousand fold. The choice is yours Albanians.

ozzi

pre 11 godina

ecoman,

heres your history, the citizens of the serbian empire migrating from kosovo in albanian clothing ofcourse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Menekulo_szerbek.JPG

you can check it out at your local belgrade art gallery

a New Day

pre 11 godina

ecoman, 10 September 2012 20:54)
In a lot of ways the internet is wonderful. One downfall is that you can find as article newsclip, video or something supporting any view on any subject you want to take. But that does not mean it is accurate, truthful, serious, or credible.
What you do have is UN resolution after resolution outlining the situation in Kosovo and Serbia in 1998-1999, you have case after case at the Hague legally documenting the crimes, you have Marty's report which states the brutality documented by Serb forces and them being universally accepted as fact.
So find your little articles and such but it is not going to change history.

Bam Bam

pre 11 godina

Serbia rejects "any kind" of Kosovo's independence !

What Serbia rejects and what Germany tells it to do are 2 different things...For the Serbia to continue to say 'NO' to the all mighty powerful Germans will in the end economically be the death of the Serbian nation. People can't live off 300 Euro's a month in Serbia for to much longer. Bow or die !