"Security situation in Kosovo is deteriorating"

this was what Serbs were doing in Klina and all over Dukagjin/Metohia....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVHCVQqdY6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLTgvSSypg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dft2xAARmOk&feature=related

I'm just wondering if Alabnaians would do this to Serbs how many Albanians would be allowed to live in peace by Serbs?? i'm impressed with K-Albanains will to forgive.

Serbian media is highly committed to bring only bad news from Kosovo. This doesn't help relations between Serbs and Albanians.

I am with mission in Kosovo and I must say that situation is not how Serbian media report it. The reality is very very very different.

"your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs. How fast you forget."

cry me a river

How can you compare what is happening during a war and what happens during times of peace? There are thousand of foreign troops in Kosovo. There is suppse to be peace and still albanians are causing trouble every single day. And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?

I am sure that the diaspora Albanians here jump up and down on this report, stressing that, no, Serbs are welcomed to return to their homes in KiM - we apologize for chasing you out, and want to live side by side with you as good neighbors. For that is what the Newborn Kosova is, a multi-ethnic society where all ethnicities can co-habitate in true EU vision. Be honest, Albanians, you would love to see KiM free of all ethnicities but yourselves. It is obvious by the criminal actions of the dirty KPS, Pristina's mafioso institutions, and even the ordinary Albanian people. Please tell me someone where what I say is not so.

Ben, this looks more like the work of the KLA, then trying to pin it on the Serbs after they did their dirty work and fled. I have heard that the KLA even tortured and murdered their own brother Albanians, simply because they were not loyal supporters of the KLA. Is that true, ben? Anyway, the story is about the situation in KiM today, not what the Albanians were doing there during the civil war.

@ ecoman, your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs.
How fast you forget.
(cry me a river, 10 August 2012 16:00)

What are you talking about? Greece/Bulgaria/Romania/Hungary/Austria/Italy/Albania were under attack by Serbs trying to rid them of non-Serbs ?

Not my kin, river, we were, and still are living in the USA, as we have for quite a long time. How about your kin, were they part of the KLA that terrorized and killed innocent Serb civilians, in order to provoke a military response from Milosevic? Were your kin the ones that killed some of their own Albanian brothers, simply because they did not show their loyalty?

Yes, Mikah, I am sure that it is worse - but the media has to sugar coat the situation to brown nose the international donors somewhat.

@ ecoman, your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs.
How fast you forget.

Serbian war criminals will never be safe.

Ben, this looks more like the work of the KLA, then trying to pin it on the Serbs after they did their dirty work and fled. I have heard that the KLA even tortured and murdered their own brother Albanians, simply because they were not loyal supporters of the KLA. Is that true, ben? Anyway, the story is about the situation in KiM today, not what the Albanians were doing there during the civil war.
(ecoman, 10 August 2012 17:45)

Unreal, but what else to expect from the serb disapora. Blind and living behind the moon, well pluto .... it is all proven, all documented, and I suggest you read the testimonies of the war crimes tribunal. You sound like Milosovic on trial, use the same tactic, but the world knows, and won't forget. Stick your head in the sand, and see where it will lead you. Serbia will not get away with it's denial of the crimes which were committed in its name, and no western country will accept that, no matter how often these lies are repeated...

"think they suffer from a light version of the same disease those Serbs suffer from who still nowadays refer to WW2 and the atrocities that have been committed then to downplay the crimes committed in their name."

Comm. Parrisson

Well, why shouldn't serbs refer back to WW2? Doesn't that count? I guess as soon as serbs do something wrong that should be highlighted and whenever croats, albanians etc do something to serbs its always justified. Srebrenica is genocide, but Jasenovac is not.
Serbia may refer back to WW2 but they are not attacking minoreties. Serbia is close to ten times bigger then Kosovo and you don't hear about incidents like this in Presevo or anywhere else. You don't hear of incidents like this in Bosnia or Croatia but in little tiny Kosovo its happening every day. Its happening in Macedonia frequently as well. 13 years have past since the war ended but its 100 times worse in Kosovo now then before the war. The worst part is that there are NATO troops to protect the small serbian population in the south and they can't do anything about the daily attacks. Imagine if there were more serbs living in the south. It would be civil war.

j

How can you join something when you can't even live a normal life without watching your back every minute of the day. There will never be peace in South Serbia. It has become Balkans own Northern Ireland.

"And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?"
(MikeC, 10 August 2012 17:09)

I think they suffer from a light version of the same disease those Serbs suffer from who still nowadays refer to WW2 and the atrocities that have been committed then to downplay the crimes committed in their name.

Not my kin, river, we were, and still are living in the USA, as we have for quite a long time. How about your kin, were they part of the KLA that terrorized and killed innocent Serb civilians, in order to provoke a military response from Milosevic? Were your kin the ones that killed some of their own Albanian brothers, simply because they did not show their loyalty?
ecoman

Yup. It's all true. Albanians ran from Nato and not Sloba's tanks. What else? Oh, yes, Albanians were brought to the Balkans by the Turks. Or did they come from Sicily?

FYI, I rode an unicorn to work this morning. It's just as true as most of your comments.

"And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?" (MikeC, 10 August 2012 17:09)

We cant do much about it if Serbs refuse to participate in the decision making process and exclude and isolate themselves from society. You need to join the KPS in large numbers so you yourselves can investigate this. Instead you leave KPS in large numbers. Well if you care more about making political statements and that bravado about sticking it to Albanians instead of investigating this,we cant really help you. We wont send Albanian personnel to investigate these cases in Serb areas when you shoot at them for being Albanian and wearing KPS uniforms. You want us to find those who did it, but you do not want to join us in their search, and you shoot us if we look for them in your neighborhoods. You really cant complain much. You dont want to help and you hamper the search, nothing will happen.

What nonsense of an article. Truth is, the Serb minority has done and is doing everything they can to undermine Kosovar institutions. On the one hand they say they don't recognise Kosovar police on the other they say they're not doing enough. On the one hand they say they don't recognise the state, on the other they say the state is discriminating against them. The Arthisari plan gives Serbs far more rights than ANY ethnic minority enjoys in any other part of the world. What they want is Belgrade to take over. Well sorry dudes, that ship has sailed and it ain't ever coming back? I still maintain that Kosova today is a lot better than it was at ANY point under Belgrade

Is 'Mikah' advocating censorship so that Albanians don't become upset? I've heard that the laws if physics are also different down there...

Comm. Parrisson, 10 August 2012 19:42)
I rarely agree with your views on Kosovo, but there is something else about your posts. You seem to be someone that attempts to look at the whole picture and realize all Serbs are not saints nor all Albanians all demons.
Basically, what I am saying is that if the balkans could come up with a few more like you on both sides, eventual peace would be a true possibility.
Again this is not an endorsement of your views(at least not most concerning Kosovo) but of what I perceive your character to be.

Lets' hope this is the beginning of the end for albanian terrorism and criminality in Kosovo and Metohija.
Shame on those "international observers" who allowed the human rights abuses to go this far!

j

You can not compare a time when Serbia was ruled by a dictator and today. No one had any rights during Milosevic so how would albanians have any? It sounds to me like you are putting the blame on the victim. Ever since 1999 serbs have been targeted by the majority albanian population in Kosovo. In 2004 albanians mobilized to kick all serbs out of Kosovo and to burn down any proof of their existence there. And you are saying serbs should participate in Pristina institutions. Do you know what would happend if not for KFOR? Honestly, why do you think serbs in the north don't want anything to do with Pristina? There are good albanians, no doubt, but its no secret that albanians as a whole want go rid Kosovo of all serbs. Look at how few serbs have returned to south Kosovo. Its not that they don't want to its that they are affraid to. Instead of doing something about this massive anti serb violence albanians keep downplaying the problem not to look bad to the western world.

I find it interesting that while Albanians prior to 1999 were seeking participation in Jugoslav institutions so they could defend their interests, the Serbs are shunning participation totally disregarding what that means for their interests.
(j, 11 August 2012 06:16)

Albanians prior to 1999 boycotted YU elections which helped Milosevic a lot to come to power.

I still maintain that Kosova today is a lot better than it was at ANY point under Belgrade
(Nikolle, 11 August 2012 10:01)

Kosovo may be a lot better for Albanians, but it is a lot worse for Serbs.

(MikeC)

deny it all you like, Kosova Serbs predominently voted for Sloba during his reign of terror. look at them now, they vote radicals still or raving mad nationalists like Nikolicl. that aside, I though you guys believed it was a myth that we had no rights under Sloba anyway

How can you join something when you can't even live a normal life without watching your back every minute of the day. There will never be peace in South Serbia. It has become Balkans own Northern Ireland. (MikeC, 10 August 2012 23:56)

Because that's what needs to be done to achieve what you want. Because that would change the current system from the inside. Because even if Albanians have the best of intentions these cases cannot be solved without the help of the Serbs. The only way to build a healthy society is through the help of the Serbs. Serbs need to take responsibility and accept high positions in government so that they can safeguard their interests. Serbs need to participate so that the society is cured of its bitter past.

I find it interesting that while Albanians prior to 1999 were seeking participation in Jugoslav institutions so they could defend their interests, the Serbs are shunning participation totally disregarding what that means for their interests.

"deny it all you like, Kosova Serbs predominently voted for Sloba during his reign of terror. look at them now, they vote radicals still or raving mad nationalists like Nikolic."
(Nikiolle, 11 August 2012 22:45)

Yes, they did. That's why Milosevic came into power. And 20 years later, Kosovo Albanians voted for war criminals, former 'freedom fighters', or radicals/nationalist like the 'self determination movement' (they call themselves like that, their openly advocated ideology of a greater Albania is comparable to Serbian radicals). If Kosovo Albanians voted predominantly for these parties is hard to decide, because of all the vote rigging and manipulations during the first elections organized by 'Kosovo authorities'

"Imagine if there were more serbs living in the south. It would be civil war. "
(MikeC, 10 August 2012 23:56)

Not so hard to imagine, because it has been like that not so long ago - only the roles have changed.

Serbian media is highly committed to bring only bad news from Kosovo. This doesn't help relations between Serbs and Albanians.

I am with mission in Kosovo and I must say that situation is not how Serbian media report it. The reality is very very very different.

@ ecoman, your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs.
How fast you forget.

Serbian war criminals will never be safe.

this was what Serbs were doing in Klina and all over Dukagjin/Metohia....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVHCVQqdY6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLTgvSSypg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dft2xAARmOk&feature=related

I'm just wondering if Alabnaians would do this to Serbs how many Albanians would be allowed to live in peace by Serbs?? i'm impressed with K-Albanains will to forgive.

I am sure that the diaspora Albanians here jump up and down on this report, stressing that, no, Serbs are welcomed to return to their homes in KiM - we apologize for chasing you out, and want to live side by side with you as good neighbors. For that is what the Newborn Kosova is, a multi-ethnic society where all ethnicities can co-habitate in true EU vision. Be honest, Albanians, you would love to see KiM free of all ethnicities but yourselves. It is obvious by the criminal actions of the dirty KPS, Pristina's mafioso institutions, and even the ordinary Albanian people. Please tell me someone where what I say is not so.

Ben, this looks more like the work of the KLA, then trying to pin it on the Serbs after they did their dirty work and fled. I have heard that the KLA even tortured and murdered their own brother Albanians, simply because they were not loyal supporters of the KLA. Is that true, ben? Anyway, the story is about the situation in KiM today, not what the Albanians were doing there during the civil war.
(ecoman, 10 August 2012 17:45)

Unreal, but what else to expect from the serb disapora. Blind and living behind the moon, well pluto .... it is all proven, all documented, and I suggest you read the testimonies of the war crimes tribunal. You sound like Milosovic on trial, use the same tactic, but the world knows, and won't forget. Stick your head in the sand, and see where it will lead you. Serbia will not get away with it's denial of the crimes which were committed in its name, and no western country will accept that, no matter how often these lies are repeated...

Ben, this looks more like the work of the KLA, then trying to pin it on the Serbs after they did their dirty work and fled. I have heard that the KLA even tortured and murdered their own brother Albanians, simply because they were not loyal supporters of the KLA. Is that true, ben? Anyway, the story is about the situation in KiM today, not what the Albanians were doing there during the civil war.

"your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs. How fast you forget."

cry me a river

How can you compare what is happening during a war and what happens during times of peace? There are thousand of foreign troops in Kosovo. There is suppse to be peace and still albanians are causing trouble every single day. And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?

"And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?"
(MikeC, 10 August 2012 17:09)

I think they suffer from a light version of the same disease those Serbs suffer from who still nowadays refer to WW2 and the atrocities that have been committed then to downplay the crimes committed in their name.

"And insteaad of doing something about those attacks albanians simply refere back to the war. What is wrong with you?" (MikeC, 10 August 2012 17:09)

We cant do much about it if Serbs refuse to participate in the decision making process and exclude and isolate themselves from society. You need to join the KPS in large numbers so you yourselves can investigate this. Instead you leave KPS in large numbers. Well if you care more about making political statements and that bravado about sticking it to Albanians instead of investigating this,we cant really help you. We wont send Albanian personnel to investigate these cases in Serb areas when you shoot at them for being Albanian and wearing KPS uniforms. You want us to find those who did it, but you do not want to join us in their search, and you shoot us if we look for them in your neighborhoods. You really cant complain much. You dont want to help and you hamper the search, nothing will happen.

Not my kin, river, we were, and still are living in the USA, as we have for quite a long time. How about your kin, were they part of the KLA that terrorized and killed innocent Serb civilians, in order to provoke a military response from Milosevic? Were your kin the ones that killed some of their own Albanian brothers, simply because they did not show their loyalty?
ecoman

Yup. It's all true. Albanians ran from Nato and not Sloba's tanks. What else? Oh, yes, Albanians were brought to the Balkans by the Turks. Or did they come from Sicily?

FYI, I rode an unicorn to work this morning. It's just as true as most of your comments.

Not my kin, river, we were, and still are living in the USA, as we have for quite a long time. How about your kin, were they part of the KLA that terrorized and killed innocent Serb civilians, in order to provoke a military response from Milosevic? Were your kin the ones that killed some of their own Albanian brothers, simply because they did not show their loyalty?

"think they suffer from a light version of the same disease those Serbs suffer from who still nowadays refer to WW2 and the atrocities that have been committed then to downplay the crimes committed in their name."

Comm. Parrisson

Well, why shouldn't serbs refer back to WW2? Doesn't that count? I guess as soon as serbs do something wrong that should be highlighted and whenever croats, albanians etc do something to serbs its always justified. Srebrenica is genocide, but Jasenovac is not.
Serbia may refer back to WW2 but they are not attacking minoreties. Serbia is close to ten times bigger then Kosovo and you don't hear about incidents like this in Presevo or anywhere else. You don't hear of incidents like this in Bosnia or Croatia but in little tiny Kosovo its happening every day. Its happening in Macedonia frequently as well. 13 years have past since the war ended but its 100 times worse in Kosovo now then before the war. The worst part is that there are NATO troops to protect the small serbian population in the south and they can't do anything about the daily attacks. Imagine if there were more serbs living in the south. It would be civil war.

j

How can you join something when you can't even live a normal life without watching your back every minute of the day. There will never be peace in South Serbia. It has become Balkans own Northern Ireland.

@ ecoman, your kin try to rid not only Serbia but other neighboring countries of non-Serbs.
How fast you forget.
(cry me a river, 10 August 2012 16:00)

What are you talking about? Greece/Bulgaria/Romania/Hungary/Austria/Italy/Albania were under attack by Serbs trying to rid them of non-Serbs ?

Yes, Mikah, I am sure that it is worse - but the media has to sugar coat the situation to brown nose the international donors somewhat.

What nonsense of an article. Truth is, the Serb minority has done and is doing everything they can to undermine Kosovar institutions. On the one hand they say they don't recognise Kosovar police on the other they say they're not doing enough. On the one hand they say they don't recognise the state, on the other they say the state is discriminating against them. The Arthisari plan gives Serbs far more rights than ANY ethnic minority enjoys in any other part of the world. What they want is Belgrade to take over. Well sorry dudes, that ship has sailed and it ain't ever coming back? I still maintain that Kosova today is a lot better than it was at ANY point under Belgrade

Lets' hope this is the beginning of the end for albanian terrorism and criminality in Kosovo and Metohija.
Shame on those "international observers" who allowed the human rights abuses to go this far!

Is 'Mikah' advocating censorship so that Albanians don't become upset? I've heard that the laws if physics are also different down there...

Comm. Parrisson, 10 August 2012 19:42)
I rarely agree with your views on Kosovo, but there is something else about your posts. You seem to be someone that attempts to look at the whole picture and realize all Serbs are not saints nor all Albanians all demons.
Basically, what I am saying is that if the balkans could come up with a few more like you on both sides, eventual peace would be a true possibility.
Again this is not an endorsement of your views(at least not most concerning Kosovo) but of what I perceive your character to be.

I find it interesting that while Albanians prior to 1999 were seeking participation in Jugoslav institutions so they could defend their interests, the Serbs are shunning participation totally disregarding what that means for their interests.
(j, 11 August 2012 06:16)

Albanians prior to 1999 boycotted YU elections which helped Milosevic a lot to come to power.

(MikeC)

deny it all you like, Kosova Serbs predominently voted for Sloba during his reign of terror. look at them now, they vote radicals still or raving mad nationalists like Nikolicl. that aside, I though you guys believed it was a myth that we had no rights under Sloba anyway

How can you join something when you can't even live a normal life without watching your back every minute of the day. There will never be peace in South Serbia. It has become Balkans own Northern Ireland. (MikeC, 10 August 2012 23:56)

Because that's what needs to be done to achieve what you want. Because that would change the current system from the inside. Because even if Albanians have the best of intentions these cases cannot be solved without the help of the Serbs. The only way to build a healthy society is through the help of the Serbs. Serbs need to take responsibility and accept high positions in government so that they can safeguard their interests. Serbs need to participate so that the society is cured of its bitter past.

I find it interesting that while Albanians prior to 1999 were seeking participation in Jugoslav institutions so they could defend their interests, the Serbs are shunning participation totally disregarding what that means for their interests.

"Imagine if there were more serbs living in the south. It would be civil war. "
(MikeC, 10 August 2012 23:56)

Not so hard to imagine, because it has been like that not so long ago - only the roles have changed.

j

You can not compare a time when Serbia was ruled by a dictator and today. No one had any rights during Milosevic so how would albanians have any? It sounds to me like you are putting the blame on the victim. Ever since 1999 serbs have been targeted by the majority albanian population in Kosovo. In 2004 albanians mobilized to kick all serbs out of Kosovo and to burn down any proof of their existence there. And you are saying serbs should participate in Pristina institutions. Do you know what would happend if not for KFOR? Honestly, why do you think serbs in the north don't want anything to do with Pristina? There are good albanians, no doubt, but its no secret that albanians as a whole want go rid Kosovo of all serbs. Look at how few serbs have returned to south Kosovo. Its not that they don't want to its that they are affraid to. Instead of doing something about this massive anti serb violence albanians keep downplaying the problem not to look bad to the western world.

I still maintain that Kosova today is a lot better than it was at ANY point under Belgrade
(Nikolle, 11 August 2012 10:01)

Kosovo may be a lot better for Albanians, but it is a lot worse for Serbs.

"deny it all you like, Kosova Serbs predominently voted for Sloba during his reign of terror. look at them now, they vote radicals still or raving mad nationalists like Nikolic."
(Nikiolle, 11 August 2012 22:45)

Yes, they did. That's why Milosevic came into power. And 20 years later, Kosovo Albanians voted for war criminals, former 'freedom fighters', or radicals/nationalist like the 'self determination movement' (they call themselves like that, their openly advocated ideology of a greater Albania is comparable to Serbian radicals). If Kosovo Albanians voted predominantly for these parties is hard to decide, because of all the vote rigging and manipulations during the first elections organized by 'Kosovo authorities'