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Sunday, 17.06.2012.

14:09

“Kosovo's supervised independence will be over soon”

The International Steering Group wants to end its supervision of Kosovo as soon as possible, Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has said.

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Paul

pre 11 godina

"Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. ..."

There is aboslutely no comparison. First of all, KFOR is not the US, KFOR is NATO and the US does not lead NATO around on a rope. And NATO represents Europe most of all and this is where the whole problem is, not all the way accross the Pacific Ocean in Korea. Furthermore to compare Kosovo and its future with either North or South Korea is a joke. Kosovo run by Albanian nationalists isn't even half the country that North Korea is and North Korea is a half starved prison state. North Korea has its own military, it is has successfully engineered a nuclear weapon. Not even Albania itself can elevate itself to North Korean standards as an productive society. Without the baby-sitting services of Europe and fellow Muslim countries it things would be even worse.

NATO will be death of the United States if we in the US are not careful. It will wind up just like Germany did in WWI, doing all the shedding of blood for old and degenerate powers bound up by a wretched treaty. And then doing it again for some little Austrian rat corporal who served in the same war. KFOR is an open sore on NATO, even worse than what could happen in Syria.

@'BND'

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs!
(BND, 17 June 2012 23:58)

Wrong. He imagines to be this guy http://997tt.com/ari_gold.jpg and has missed the fact that Ari Gold is a Jewish name. That's what he is.

Albanian Agon(y)

pre 11 godina

Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 16:37)

Probably that was the reason you sucked Turks`d...s and converted to genocidal ideology as you wanted to prove the World you held the upper hand over the Ottoman invaders and turks were wrong to call themselves turks instead "Illyrians"...

pss

pre 11 godina

I am not surprised of KFOR behavior at all. They are occupying forces for the Serbs.Unfortunately, every action of KFOR is to the detriment of the Serbs.I am sure that some Russian general, as suprime commander of KFOR, will radically improve KFOR behaviour toward Serbs.
(perun_u, 17 June 2012 18:30
And you think that is going to happen???

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

You can claim kosovo as independent as long as you want but without a UN seat and EU seat. Kosovo is in limbo.

You have no other choice but to renegotiate with Belgrade.

Playland

pre 11 godina

Wow ,Srbs are great Warriors,I could see from the comments here,I just do not understand how in this world they lost three wars i last 20 years.Shocked.

sj

pre 11 godina

(AcaVelikiCG, 17 June 2012 14:45)
Well summarized, but it’s all about money and it has never been about anything else. The west is running out fast and they can’t keep either the office open nor the military there so like Iraq and now Afghanistan its cut and run and let someone else deal with the mess.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)
Do you actually believe that rubbish you write here? As if anyone would leave you with arms of any consequence. LOL you people make me laugh.
To do what you think you can, requires helicopters, aircraft, tanks, armed personnel carriers, sams, ground to ground missiles. You need billion upon billion\s and you people live of EU handouts. Perhaps the EU will donate an aircraft carrier to the Albanians in Kosovo.

Amer

pre 11 godina

" we will wait until the US withdraw from our territory. and then we will see.
(Jovan, 17 June 2012 22:57) "

Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. In the meantime, the two parts of the country, which started out at similar levels of political and economic development, have gone in such entirely different directions that what South Koreans feel for their northern relatives is mostly pity. Regular elections and concentration on developing the economy while not having to worry about attack from the north have made all the difference. It could happen again, in the Balkans.

BND

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs! He is nothing more than an internet warrior.

Jo

pre 11 godina

How many times to say-EULEX will extend his mission till 2014 it doesn't matter what Hashim Tachi is dreaming for or Oliver Ivanovich says,about Kfor it stack in the North Kosovo for years.That's all about end of supervised independance whether you like it or not...

Paul

pre 11 godina

When KFOR goes, Kosovo will go back to the Serbs. The Serbs will grant autonomy to areas of high Albanian population density where Albanians can prove they are not immigrants from Albania or descended from immigrants. The Serbs will secure the border between Serbia and Albania once again and organized crime originating in Kosovo and through Serbia will grind to a halt. No more Greater Albania.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@agon
All you just said is a bunch of clamor, nothing more. You have albos here and there, and are trained, etc. Your combined albos all over dont have the single power to even for one week last against the Serbian military. You are indeed geting outside help..always have. Or you and I wouldn't be talking about Kosovo today, that's a fact no one can refute. If you albos were so tough and would go to war again, back then what was diff? yOu were running, hiding, and torturing people where you could. Bottom line is there are many more Serbs, and much more trained, and esp never afraid to go to war. I promise you that.
You want peace, then sit at the table, and talk peace. All or nothing approach never worked, never will. And until our province of Kosovo and Metohija has a fair, impartial decision made, you will not have peace. Bottom line. And that is what you albos decided, not us Serbs. Remember that.

Agon

pre 11 godina

Don't be stupid ARI. In 90s here in Kosovo we had thousands of Serbian Agents(UDB) people didn't knew who to trust. They thought they were going to join KLA they took them to Police Stations. Now everything is different trust me. We have an army now being trained by NATO. We are supported and getting helped by US (which is what scares u the most I guess). We have 10.000 police officers which means 10k ppl who are trained to use weapons. We have Albanians in Albania, In preshevo valley, In macedonia, in Montenegro and all over the world. If you think you will run over empty villages burn homes and kill who's left of Ethnic cleaning YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND. We are for PEACE! But if u want war then bring it. Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.
(Ari Gold, 17 June 2012 14:20)

:) be cheerful and cautious when u visiting there this summer . By the way I would love to see your photo in front of Bill Clinton statue in Pristina with Serbian flag.

must hurt to have to twist everything all the time, by the way let me know if u like to meet in USA I live here Albany NY .

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that we can say that Serbs fear what will happen if supervision finishes.
(Damjan, 17 June 2012 15:29)

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that KFOR couldn't reduce the troops like it was planned, they even had to upgrade the contingent after Pristina's unilateral ROSU move which was meant to create more tension last autumn.

Agon

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)

What do I have to trust you with? How do I know how strong Albanians are if they always have others fighting their battles?

The last time Albanians fought anywhere was last July in Northern Kosovo when the ROSU unit came and one of them never made it back because he was killed in Mitro. You did nothing about it.

Does that sound very strong to you? I can't relate to such strength I guess.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Like I said in one of my comments yesterday the West is not capable of doing the dirty job for the terrorist Pristina government for ever. Just like Kosovo the EU is running out of funds to finance their Frankenstein project.

AcaVelikiCG

pre 11 godina

I cannot believe these Western hypocrites. They create an absolute mess in Kosovo, turn people's lives upside down, make promises they cannot keep, strong-arm their way with actions that only creates more animosity, and then when they see no hope in sight, they cut their losses and run. Can you imagine the complete chaos that will ensue once the internationals flee Kosovo? I pray that calm heads will prevail.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Ivanović also confirmed that the information of the Kosovo authorities was true.

That is right Ivanovic. Kosova authorities have told the truth to its people all along, but Serbian politicians have been lying to its people for centuries.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wow, I was ironically talking about this in another post. Yes this clearly means the West has no more money to fund radical Albanian fantasies anymore. Get ready for turbulent times in the Balkans my friends.

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wow, I was ironically talking about this in another post. Yes this clearly means the West has no more money to fund radical Albanian fantasies anymore. Get ready for turbulent times in the Balkans my friends.

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Ivanović also confirmed that the information of the Kosovo authorities was true.

That is right Ivanovic. Kosova authorities have told the truth to its people all along, but Serbian politicians have been lying to its people for centuries.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Like I said in one of my comments yesterday the West is not capable of doing the dirty job for the terrorist Pristina government for ever. Just like Kosovo the EU is running out of funds to finance their Frankenstein project.

Agon

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!

AcaVelikiCG

pre 11 godina

I cannot believe these Western hypocrites. They create an absolute mess in Kosovo, turn people's lives upside down, make promises they cannot keep, strong-arm their way with actions that only creates more animosity, and then when they see no hope in sight, they cut their losses and run. Can you imagine the complete chaos that will ensue once the internationals flee Kosovo? I pray that calm heads will prevail.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)

What do I have to trust you with? How do I know how strong Albanians are if they always have others fighting their battles?

The last time Albanians fought anywhere was last July in Northern Kosovo when the ROSU unit came and one of them never made it back because he was killed in Mitro. You did nothing about it.

Does that sound very strong to you? I can't relate to such strength I guess.

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.
(Ari Gold, 17 June 2012 14:20)

:) be cheerful and cautious when u visiting there this summer . By the way I would love to see your photo in front of Bill Clinton statue in Pristina with Serbian flag.

must hurt to have to twist everything all the time, by the way let me know if u like to meet in USA I live here Albany NY .

Agon

pre 11 godina

Don't be stupid ARI. In 90s here in Kosovo we had thousands of Serbian Agents(UDB) people didn't knew who to trust. They thought they were going to join KLA they took them to Police Stations. Now everything is different trust me. We have an army now being trained by NATO. We are supported and getting helped by US (which is what scares u the most I guess). We have 10.000 police officers which means 10k ppl who are trained to use weapons. We have Albanians in Albania, In preshevo valley, In macedonia, in Montenegro and all over the world. If you think you will run over empty villages burn homes and kill who's left of Ethnic cleaning YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND. We are for PEACE! But if u want war then bring it. Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.

Paul

pre 11 godina

When KFOR goes, Kosovo will go back to the Serbs. The Serbs will grant autonomy to areas of high Albanian population density where Albanians can prove they are not immigrants from Albania or descended from immigrants. The Serbs will secure the border between Serbia and Albania once again and organized crime originating in Kosovo and through Serbia will grind to a halt. No more Greater Albania.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that we can say that Serbs fear what will happen if supervision finishes.
(Damjan, 17 June 2012 15:29)

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that KFOR couldn't reduce the troops like it was planned, they even had to upgrade the contingent after Pristina's unilateral ROSU move which was meant to create more tension last autumn.

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@agon
All you just said is a bunch of clamor, nothing more. You have albos here and there, and are trained, etc. Your combined albos all over dont have the single power to even for one week last against the Serbian military. You are indeed geting outside help..always have. Or you and I wouldn't be talking about Kosovo today, that's a fact no one can refute. If you albos were so tough and would go to war again, back then what was diff? yOu were running, hiding, and torturing people where you could. Bottom line is there are many more Serbs, and much more trained, and esp never afraid to go to war. I promise you that.
You want peace, then sit at the table, and talk peace. All or nothing approach never worked, never will. And until our province of Kosovo and Metohija has a fair, impartial decision made, you will not have peace. Bottom line. And that is what you albos decided, not us Serbs. Remember that.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

You can claim kosovo as independent as long as you want but without a UN seat and EU seat. Kosovo is in limbo.

You have no other choice but to renegotiate with Belgrade.

Albanian Agon(y)

pre 11 godina

Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 16:37)

Probably that was the reason you sucked Turks`d...s and converted to genocidal ideology as you wanted to prove the World you held the upper hand over the Ottoman invaders and turks were wrong to call themselves turks instead "Illyrians"...

Playland

pre 11 godina

Wow ,Srbs are great Warriors,I could see from the comments here,I just do not understand how in this world they lost three wars i last 20 years.Shocked.

pss

pre 11 godina

I am not surprised of KFOR behavior at all. They are occupying forces for the Serbs.Unfortunately, every action of KFOR is to the detriment of the Serbs.I am sure that some Russian general, as suprime commander of KFOR, will radically improve KFOR behaviour toward Serbs.
(perun_u, 17 June 2012 18:30
And you think that is going to happen???

@'BND'

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs!
(BND, 17 June 2012 23:58)

Wrong. He imagines to be this guy http://997tt.com/ari_gold.jpg and has missed the fact that Ari Gold is a Jewish name. That's what he is.

Paul

pre 11 godina

"Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. ..."

There is aboslutely no comparison. First of all, KFOR is not the US, KFOR is NATO and the US does not lead NATO around on a rope. And NATO represents Europe most of all and this is where the whole problem is, not all the way accross the Pacific Ocean in Korea. Furthermore to compare Kosovo and its future with either North or South Korea is a joke. Kosovo run by Albanian nationalists isn't even half the country that North Korea is and North Korea is a half starved prison state. North Korea has its own military, it is has successfully engineered a nuclear weapon. Not even Albania itself can elevate itself to North Korean standards as an productive society. Without the baby-sitting services of Europe and fellow Muslim countries it things would be even worse.

NATO will be death of the United States if we in the US are not careful. It will wind up just like Germany did in WWI, doing all the shedding of blood for old and degenerate powers bound up by a wretched treaty. And then doing it again for some little Austrian rat corporal who served in the same war. KFOR is an open sore on NATO, even worse than what could happen in Syria.

BND

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs! He is nothing more than an internet warrior.

sj

pre 11 godina

(AcaVelikiCG, 17 June 2012 14:45)
Well summarized, but it’s all about money and it has never been about anything else. The west is running out fast and they can’t keep either the office open nor the military there so like Iraq and now Afghanistan its cut and run and let someone else deal with the mess.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)
Do you actually believe that rubbish you write here? As if anyone would leave you with arms of any consequence. LOL you people make me laugh.
To do what you think you can, requires helicopters, aircraft, tanks, armed personnel carriers, sams, ground to ground missiles. You need billion upon billion\s and you people live of EU handouts. Perhaps the EU will donate an aircraft carrier to the Albanians in Kosovo.

Amer

pre 11 godina

" we will wait until the US withdraw from our territory. and then we will see.
(Jovan, 17 June 2012 22:57) "

Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. In the meantime, the two parts of the country, which started out at similar levels of political and economic development, have gone in such entirely different directions that what South Koreans feel for their northern relatives is mostly pity. Regular elections and concentration on developing the economy while not having to worry about attack from the north have made all the difference. It could happen again, in the Balkans.

Jo

pre 11 godina

How many times to say-EULEX will extend his mission till 2014 it doesn't matter what Hashim Tachi is dreaming for or Oliver Ivanovich says,about Kfor it stack in the North Kosovo for years.That's all about end of supervised independance whether you like it or not...

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Wow, I was ironically talking about this in another post. Yes this clearly means the West has no more money to fund radical Albanian fantasies anymore. Get ready for turbulent times in the Balkans my friends.

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.

Ari Gold

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)

What do I have to trust you with? How do I know how strong Albanians are if they always have others fighting their battles?

The last time Albanians fought anywhere was last July in Northern Kosovo when the ROSU unit came and one of them never made it back because he was killed in Mitro. You did nothing about it.

Does that sound very strong to you? I can't relate to such strength I guess.

Ardi Asllani

pre 11 godina

Ivanović also confirmed that the information of the Kosovo authorities was true.

That is right Ivanovic. Kosova authorities have told the truth to its people all along, but Serbian politicians have been lying to its people for centuries.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

Like I said in one of my comments yesterday the West is not capable of doing the dirty job for the terrorist Pristina government for ever. Just like Kosovo the EU is running out of funds to finance their Frankenstein project.

Agon

pre 11 godina

Don't be stupid ARI. In 90s here in Kosovo we had thousands of Serbian Agents(UDB) people didn't knew who to trust. They thought they were going to join KLA they took them to Police Stations. Now everything is different trust me. We have an army now being trained by NATO. We are supported and getting helped by US (which is what scares u the most I guess). We have 10.000 police officers which means 10k ppl who are trained to use weapons. We have Albanians in Albania, In preshevo valley, In macedonia, in Montenegro and all over the world. If you think you will run over empty villages burn homes and kill who's left of Ethnic cleaning YOU ARE WRONG MY FRIEND. We are for PEACE! But if u want war then bring it. Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.

AcaVelikiCG

pre 11 godina

I cannot believe these Western hypocrites. They create an absolute mess in Kosovo, turn people's lives upside down, make promises they cannot keep, strong-arm their way with actions that only creates more animosity, and then when they see no hope in sight, they cut their losses and run. Can you imagine the complete chaos that will ensue once the internationals flee Kosovo? I pray that calm heads will prevail.

Agon

pre 11 godina

Ari Gold you clearly missed the point; As for turbulent times in Balkans don't worry for us Albanians all I can say is we are ready and stronger than never before ;) TRUST ME!

Bilbao

pre 11 godina

And organ extracting cowards, invest in some good hiding spots.

God knows you'll need them.
(Ari Gold, 17 June 2012 14:20)

:) be cheerful and cautious when u visiting there this summer . By the way I would love to see your photo in front of Bill Clinton statue in Pristina with Serbian flag.

must hurt to have to twist everything all the time, by the way let me know if u like to meet in USA I live here Albany NY .

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that we can say that Serbs fear what will happen if supervision finishes.
(Damjan, 17 June 2012 15:29)

Situation in Kosovo is so difficult that KFOR couldn't reduce the troops like it was planned, they even had to upgrade the contingent after Pristina's unilateral ROSU move which was meant to create more tension last autumn.

Playland

pre 11 godina

Wow ,Srbs are great Warriors,I could see from the comments here,I just do not understand how in this world they lost three wars i last 20 years.Shocked.

Paul

pre 11 godina

When KFOR goes, Kosovo will go back to the Serbs. The Serbs will grant autonomy to areas of high Albanian population density where Albanians can prove they are not immigrants from Albania or descended from immigrants. The Serbs will secure the border between Serbia and Albania once again and organized crime originating in Kosovo and through Serbia will grind to a halt. No more Greater Albania.

Albanian Agon(y)

pre 11 godina

Albanians historically were never afraid of fighting wars for their freedom and never will be. Thank you.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 16:37)

Probably that was the reason you sucked Turks`d...s and converted to genocidal ideology as you wanted to prove the World you held the upper hand over the Ottoman invaders and turks were wrong to call themselves turks instead "Illyrians"...

Momcilo

pre 11 godina

@agon
All you just said is a bunch of clamor, nothing more. You have albos here and there, and are trained, etc. Your combined albos all over dont have the single power to even for one week last against the Serbian military. You are indeed geting outside help..always have. Or you and I wouldn't be talking about Kosovo today, that's a fact no one can refute. If you albos were so tough and would go to war again, back then what was diff? yOu were running, hiding, and torturing people where you could. Bottom line is there are many more Serbs, and much more trained, and esp never afraid to go to war. I promise you that.
You want peace, then sit at the table, and talk peace. All or nothing approach never worked, never will. And until our province of Kosovo and Metohija has a fair, impartial decision made, you will not have peace. Bottom line. And that is what you albos decided, not us Serbs. Remember that.

Jo

pre 11 godina

How many times to say-EULEX will extend his mission till 2014 it doesn't matter what Hashim Tachi is dreaming for or Oliver Ivanovich says,about Kfor it stack in the North Kosovo for years.That's all about end of supervised independance whether you like it or not...

Amer

pre 11 godina

" we will wait until the US withdraw from our territory. and then we will see.
(Jovan, 17 June 2012 22:57) "

Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. In the meantime, the two parts of the country, which started out at similar levels of political and economic development, have gone in such entirely different directions that what South Koreans feel for their northern relatives is mostly pity. Regular elections and concentration on developing the economy while not having to worry about attack from the north have made all the difference. It could happen again, in the Balkans.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 11 godina

You can claim kosovo as independent as long as you want but without a UN seat and EU seat. Kosovo is in limbo.

You have no other choice but to renegotiate with Belgrade.

@'BND'

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs!
(BND, 17 June 2012 23:58)

Wrong. He imagines to be this guy http://997tt.com/ari_gold.jpg and has missed the fact that Ari Gold is a Jewish name. That's what he is.

BND

pre 11 godina

Mendo for your information Ari Gold is an extremist Jew who is becoming more Serb than Serbs! He is nothing more than an internet warrior.

sj

pre 11 godina

(AcaVelikiCG, 17 June 2012 14:45)
Well summarized, but it’s all about money and it has never been about anything else. The west is running out fast and they can’t keep either the office open nor the military there so like Iraq and now Afghanistan its cut and run and let someone else deal with the mess.
(Agon, 17 June 2012 15:11)
Do you actually believe that rubbish you write here? As if anyone would leave you with arms of any consequence. LOL you people make me laugh.
To do what you think you can, requires helicopters, aircraft, tanks, armed personnel carriers, sams, ground to ground missiles. You need billion upon billion\s and you people live of EU handouts. Perhaps the EU will donate an aircraft carrier to the Albanians in Kosovo.

pss

pre 11 godina

I am not surprised of KFOR behavior at all. They are occupying forces for the Serbs.Unfortunately, every action of KFOR is to the detriment of the Serbs.I am sure that some Russian general, as suprime commander of KFOR, will radically improve KFOR behaviour toward Serbs.
(perun_u, 17 June 2012 18:30
And you think that is going to happen???

Paul

pre 11 godina

"Sixty years later, the North Koreans are still waiting for the Americans to leave the peninsula. ..."

There is aboslutely no comparison. First of all, KFOR is not the US, KFOR is NATO and the US does not lead NATO around on a rope. And NATO represents Europe most of all and this is where the whole problem is, not all the way accross the Pacific Ocean in Korea. Furthermore to compare Kosovo and its future with either North or South Korea is a joke. Kosovo run by Albanian nationalists isn't even half the country that North Korea is and North Korea is a half starved prison state. North Korea has its own military, it is has successfully engineered a nuclear weapon. Not even Albania itself can elevate itself to North Korean standards as an productive society. Without the baby-sitting services of Europe and fellow Muslim countries it things would be even worse.

NATO will be death of the United States if we in the US are not careful. It will wind up just like Germany did in WWI, doing all the shedding of blood for old and degenerate powers bound up by a wretched treaty. And then doing it again for some little Austrian rat corporal who served in the same war. KFOR is an open sore on NATO, even worse than what could happen in Syria.