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Thursday, 14.06.2012.

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Serbian president satisfied with EU assurances

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo".

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Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels."
(Dragan, 15 June 2012 15:39)

Indeed, it's not a coincidence, but these organizations deliberately chose a small state instead for their headquarters instead of a big one (like EU HQ in Germany or NATO in the USA) to keep away some simple-minded people from thinking that the big countries 'rule' or 'dominate' these organizations :)

Furthermore, the EU has no official headquarter or 'capital', but Brussels hosts the EU Parliament, EU Commission and several other organs.

Dragan

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels. What do you think 'normalization' of relations means? That statement is purposely foggy and ambiguous, but the bottom line is you can not 'normalize' relations with your own province. The EU wanker diplomats are playing games with words, but Kostunica is 100% correct, they are trying to, slowly and under the radar, steal Kosovo and give it to their organ snatching friends.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise Kosova the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.
(Zoran, 15 June 2012 00:45)

Correct. I have stated several times that the EU as such will never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo or make it a criteria for joining. From that point of view there was and never will be a change.

However, states can make complete different approaches and we have many comments from politicians who do not represent EU but their countries, making clear that there won't be a 2nd Cyprus. This is even the right wording. They will not say "recognize Kosovo". They will it more sublte like "No 2nd Cyprus", leaving the problem and blame to Serbia. Very clever and effective. And still not a lie. In fact, you can not blame any Western politician or EU official regarding that topic. They all say the truth (at least when it comes to this). But when reading between the lines and using your brain you see that Serbia will not come around the decisive point and all Serbian politician who should know it (or even know it already) tiptoe around that. I'm seriously wondering why the Serbian media does not ask those questions. As a journalist, I would haunt them, exposing them as good as possible.

Martin

pre 11 godina

There is no politican is Serbia, except maybe Cedomir Jovanovic who would regognize Kosovo s independency. It is both important to defend teritorial integrity of country and keep good relationships with European Union. I hope that it is strategic goal of SNS.

2009xxl@live.com

pre 11 godina

whyy NikoliC you are the only true Serbian that works in Serbia's interest...by the way you do not need to recognize a country if most countries do, and EU is asking you to back off,cool down, move on and focus on making life better for your people..

Goran.

pre 11 godina

Morons, absolute morons, doesn't matter who we elect they are still EU puppets. You won't need to recognise Kosovo you clacker, the majority of the EU already do and if we do join then it won't matter what we think. The countries that uphold international law are broke... But that's ok, if they fall theyre taking the EU with them. Money, in this world, speaks louder than actions or words. But like the albanians say, money isn't a problem because there isn't any

The truth comes out.

pre 11 godina

Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)
# Comment link

Apparently you are wrong in that respect.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

The first is to ask what does normalisation mean in this instance because remember that this is diplomatic speak. Normalisation will mean what Belgrade is willing it to mean and that is that.

The EU is no longer in any position to make the demands of yesteryear whether people like it or not. As I have repeated, the EU lives off Chinese loans in 2012 and is fighting for its survival as a union let alone worry too much about whether Serbia recognises Kosovo – despite what is said on B92 and the fervour of the debate, Kosovo is the least of their worries and it is relegated to the bottom of the “to be resolved pile”.


(Agim Kelmendi, 14 June 2012 21:42)

If your real name is Rumplestillskin and have been sleeping for the last 20 years then here is the latest – the EU is on the edge of a financial cataclysm which makes Serbia’s economic worries pale into insignificance. .
(gjon fusha, 14 June 2012 22:47)

The real facts are that the EU will NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania with the simple means of never giving money towards a project that will create a large Islamic country in Europe. Why do you think Turkey is sitting on the outside looking in for the last two decades? Albania is an extremely poor country and that is the way they will leave it. There is now a paranoia in Europe over Islamists and the recent elections have born that fear out in the election of right winged parties.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)
--
I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise "Kosova"*, the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.

So there we have it, what is said now is not so surprising. It doesn't mean Serbia's path to the EU will not involve further pressure by certain EU members.

?

pre 11 godina

"Barosso stressed during the same news conference the importance of "normalization of relations with Kosovo" when it came to Serbia's further EU progress, and the importance of the process of reconciliation in the Western Balkans. "

Define "normalization" in relations circulating between Serbia and Kosovo .This is going to be an infinite loop ,LOL.

Luke

pre 11 godina

Looks like you guys better hope The Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) led by President, Koštunica, comes back to power. For he is the only party to save Serbia from a dead end future As a province of the EU, and having to recognize Kosovo's independence. This should be common sense, why can't you guys see whats really going??!!! WAKE UP!!!

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...
(Questioner, 14 June 2012 21:03)

Mother country of Kosova is Albania. Serbia is no more than a country in border with Albania, like Greece and Italia.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

They will ask him to recognize Kosovo adding that he misinterprete their former promise.
What they ask to do could be interpreted as indirect recognition of Kosovo (canceleing of Serbian institutions there).

Kosovo Serbs' life is getting worse and worse...

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 14 June 2012 21:02)

Everybody knows that, since Serbia is heading towards Abyss.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.

EU Dude

pre 11 godina

Did Nikolic get that in writing signed by all? Nope. Brussels will continue to turn a blind eye to the rampant abuses against minorities in Kosovo. The comedy 'Rule of Law' that it claims it abides by, or is it human rights as well apply only to some select non-EU states but not others? This trip was a waste of time.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.

Rick

pre 11 godina

Doesn't anyone else see the "holes" in this story??? First of all, Nikolic is believing the EU solely from the people that he's spoken to in the EU. I would imagine that the EU could persuade anyone to believe anything if they only had the "right people" to do the "convincing". Mr. Nikolic- get the ENTIRE story and plot!!! When the EU says that Serbia must have "normalization towards Kosovo".....well, that MEANS that Serbia must RECOGNIZE Kosovo. Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province. So, even though TECHNICALLY the EU is not stating that Serbia must recognize Kosovo....."normalization DOES EQUAL recognition". Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.

EU+NATO=ONE,same system sam people same place

pre 11 godina

@0Rick
I agree one of the criteria to join the bankrupt EU is to known all neighbors for this reason Turkey is being refusing to start the negotiations with the EU because it does not recognize the Greek republic of Cyprus,i really don't understand the attitudes of Nikolic,if the Serbs would wanted to join NATO(EU)then will vote for DS,but they have voted for change SNS to not join the NATO-EU that have attacked us.
Serbia should have a neutral status not to become part of the western imperialist zionist masonic organizations that there is no benefit from them,Russia China and BRICS countries are the fastest growing economy in the world,Serbia should have a strong relations with mother Russia and with these other states.

Rick

pre 11 godina

Doesn't anyone else see the "holes" in this story??? First of all, Nikolic is believing the EU solely from the people that he's spoken to in the EU. I would imagine that the EU could persuade anyone to believe anything if they only had the "right people" to do the "convincing". Mr. Nikolic- get the ENTIRE story and plot!!! When the EU says that Serbia must have "normalization towards Kosovo".....well, that MEANS that Serbia must RECOGNIZE Kosovo. Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province. So, even though TECHNICALLY the EU is not stating that Serbia must recognize Kosovo....."normalization DOES EQUAL recognition". Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.

EU+NATO=ONE,same system sam people same place

pre 11 godina

@0Rick
I agree one of the criteria to join the bankrupt EU is to known all neighbors for this reason Turkey is being refusing to start the negotiations with the EU because it does not recognize the Greek republic of Cyprus,i really don't understand the attitudes of Nikolic,if the Serbs would wanted to join NATO(EU)then will vote for DS,but they have voted for change SNS to not join the NATO-EU that have attacked us.
Serbia should have a neutral status not to become part of the western imperialist zionist masonic organizations that there is no benefit from them,Russia China and BRICS countries are the fastest growing economy in the world,Serbia should have a strong relations with mother Russia and with these other states.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.

EU Dude

pre 11 godina

Did Nikolic get that in writing signed by all? Nope. Brussels will continue to turn a blind eye to the rampant abuses against minorities in Kosovo. The comedy 'Rule of Law' that it claims it abides by, or is it human rights as well apply only to some select non-EU states but not others? This trip was a waste of time.

?

pre 11 godina

"Barosso stressed during the same news conference the importance of "normalization of relations with Kosovo" when it came to Serbia's further EU progress, and the importance of the process of reconciliation in the Western Balkans. "

Define "normalization" in relations circulating between Serbia and Kosovo .This is going to be an infinite loop ,LOL.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...
(Questioner, 14 June 2012 21:03)

Mother country of Kosova is Albania. Serbia is no more than a country in border with Albania, like Greece and Italia.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 14 June 2012 21:02)

Everybody knows that, since Serbia is heading towards Abyss.

Luke

pre 11 godina

Looks like you guys better hope The Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) led by President, Koštunica, comes back to power. For he is the only party to save Serbia from a dead end future As a province of the EU, and having to recognize Kosovo's independence. This should be common sense, why can't you guys see whats really going??!!! WAKE UP!!!

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

They will ask him to recognize Kosovo adding that he misinterprete their former promise.
What they ask to do could be interpreted as indirect recognition of Kosovo (canceleing of Serbian institutions there).

Kosovo Serbs' life is getting worse and worse...

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...

Dragan

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels. What do you think 'normalization' of relations means? That statement is purposely foggy and ambiguous, but the bottom line is you can not 'normalize' relations with your own province. The EU wanker diplomats are playing games with words, but Kostunica is 100% correct, they are trying to, slowly and under the radar, steal Kosovo and give it to their organ snatching friends.

sj

pre 11 godina

(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

The first is to ask what does normalisation mean in this instance because remember that this is diplomatic speak. Normalisation will mean what Belgrade is willing it to mean and that is that.

The EU is no longer in any position to make the demands of yesteryear whether people like it or not. As I have repeated, the EU lives off Chinese loans in 2012 and is fighting for its survival as a union let alone worry too much about whether Serbia recognises Kosovo – despite what is said on B92 and the fervour of the debate, Kosovo is the least of their worries and it is relegated to the bottom of the “to be resolved pile”.


(Agim Kelmendi, 14 June 2012 21:42)

If your real name is Rumplestillskin and have been sleeping for the last 20 years then here is the latest – the EU is on the edge of a financial cataclysm which makes Serbia’s economic worries pale into insignificance. .
(gjon fusha, 14 June 2012 22:47)

The real facts are that the EU will NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania with the simple means of never giving money towards a project that will create a large Islamic country in Europe. Why do you think Turkey is sitting on the outside looking in for the last two decades? Albania is an extremely poor country and that is the way they will leave it. There is now a paranoia in Europe over Islamists and the recent elections have born that fear out in the election of right winged parties.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)
--
I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise "Kosova"*, the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.

So there we have it, what is said now is not so surprising. It doesn't mean Serbia's path to the EU will not involve further pressure by certain EU members.

Martin

pre 11 godina

There is no politican is Serbia, except maybe Cedomir Jovanovic who would regognize Kosovo s independency. It is both important to defend teritorial integrity of country and keep good relationships with European Union. I hope that it is strategic goal of SNS.

Goran.

pre 11 godina

Morons, absolute morons, doesn't matter who we elect they are still EU puppets. You won't need to recognise Kosovo you clacker, the majority of the EU already do and if we do join then it won't matter what we think. The countries that uphold international law are broke... But that's ok, if they fall theyre taking the EU with them. Money, in this world, speaks louder than actions or words. But like the albanians say, money isn't a problem because there isn't any

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise Kosova the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.
(Zoran, 15 June 2012 00:45)

Correct. I have stated several times that the EU as such will never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo or make it a criteria for joining. From that point of view there was and never will be a change.

However, states can make complete different approaches and we have many comments from politicians who do not represent EU but their countries, making clear that there won't be a 2nd Cyprus. This is even the right wording. They will not say "recognize Kosovo". They will it more sublte like "No 2nd Cyprus", leaving the problem and blame to Serbia. Very clever and effective. And still not a lie. In fact, you can not blame any Western politician or EU official regarding that topic. They all say the truth (at least when it comes to this). But when reading between the lines and using your brain you see that Serbia will not come around the decisive point and all Serbian politician who should know it (or even know it already) tiptoe around that. I'm seriously wondering why the Serbian media does not ask those questions. As a journalist, I would haunt them, exposing them as good as possible.

The truth comes out.

pre 11 godina

Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)
# Comment link

Apparently you are wrong in that respect.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels."
(Dragan, 15 June 2012 15:39)

Indeed, it's not a coincidence, but these organizations deliberately chose a small state instead for their headquarters instead of a big one (like EU HQ in Germany or NATO in the USA) to keep away some simple-minded people from thinking that the big countries 'rule' or 'dominate' these organizations :)

Furthermore, the EU has no official headquarter or 'capital', but Brussels hosts the EU Parliament, EU Commission and several other organs.

2009xxl@live.com

pre 11 godina

whyy NikoliC you are the only true Serbian that works in Serbia's interest...by the way you do not need to recognize a country if most countries do, and EU is asking you to back off,cool down, move on and focus on making life better for your people..

gjon fusha

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...
(Questioner, 14 June 2012 21:03)

Mother country of Kosova is Albania. Serbia is no more than a country in border with Albania, like Greece and Italia.

EU+NATO=ONE,same system sam people same place

pre 11 godina

@0Rick
I agree one of the criteria to join the bankrupt EU is to known all neighbors for this reason Turkey is being refusing to start the negotiations with the EU because it does not recognize the Greek republic of Cyprus,i really don't understand the attitudes of Nikolic,if the Serbs would wanted to join NATO(EU)then will vote for DS,but they have voted for change SNS to not join the NATO-EU that have attacked us.
Serbia should have a neutral status not to become part of the western imperialist zionist masonic organizations that there is no benefit from them,Russia China and BRICS countries are the fastest growing economy in the world,Serbia should have a strong relations with mother Russia and with these other states.

Questioner

pre 11 godina

"Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province."
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

Normal relations existed between Western and Eastern Germany, while Western Germany always claimed to represent all Germans. More or less normal relations exist between China and Taiwan.
And so on...

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 14 June 2012 21:02)

Everybody knows that, since Serbia is heading towards Abyss.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 11 godina

The Policy of this Serbian Presiden will fail !.
Serbia will never ever be a member of EU.

You will se that - all of You !.

Arn.sweden.

Luke

pre 11 godina

Looks like you guys better hope The Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) led by President, Koštunica, comes back to power. For he is the only party to save Serbia from a dead end future As a province of the EU, and having to recognize Kosovo's independence. This should be common sense, why can't you guys see whats really going??!!! WAKE UP!!!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.

EU Dude

pre 11 godina

Did Nikolic get that in writing signed by all? Nope. Brussels will continue to turn a blind eye to the rampant abuses against minorities in Kosovo. The comedy 'Rule of Law' that it claims it abides by, or is it human rights as well apply only to some select non-EU states but not others? This trip was a waste of time.

Rick

pre 11 godina

Doesn't anyone else see the "holes" in this story??? First of all, Nikolic is believing the EU solely from the people that he's spoken to in the EU. I would imagine that the EU could persuade anyone to believe anything if they only had the "right people" to do the "convincing". Mr. Nikolic- get the ENTIRE story and plot!!! When the EU says that Serbia must have "normalization towards Kosovo".....well, that MEANS that Serbia must RECOGNIZE Kosovo. Normal relations cannot exist between a mother country and a breakaway province, unless the mother country recognizes it's breakaway province. So, even though TECHNICALLY the EU is not stating that Serbia must recognize Kosovo....."normalization DOES EQUAL recognition". Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

"Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić says that EU officials he met with assured him the EU would "never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo -
Nikolić added that he "believed them"."

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

They will ask him to recognize Kosovo adding that he misinterprete their former promise.
What they ask to do could be interpreted as indirect recognition of Kosovo (canceleing of Serbian institutions there).

Kosovo Serbs' life is getting worse and worse...

2009xxl@live.com

pre 11 godina

whyy NikoliC you are the only true Serbian that works in Serbia's interest...by the way you do not need to recognize a country if most countries do, and EU is asking you to back off,cool down, move on and focus on making life better for your people..

Dragan

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)

Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels. What do you think 'normalization' of relations means? That statement is purposely foggy and ambiguous, but the bottom line is you can not 'normalize' relations with your own province. The EU wanker diplomats are playing games with words, but Kostunica is 100% correct, they are trying to, slowly and under the radar, steal Kosovo and give it to their organ snatching friends.

Goran.

pre 11 godina

Morons, absolute morons, doesn't matter who we elect they are still EU puppets. You won't need to recognise Kosovo you clacker, the majority of the EU already do and if we do join then it won't matter what we think. The countries that uphold international law are broke... But that's ok, if they fall theyre taking the EU with them. Money, in this world, speaks louder than actions or words. But like the albanians say, money isn't a problem because there isn't any

sj

pre 11 godina

(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)

The first is to ask what does normalisation mean in this instance because remember that this is diplomatic speak. Normalisation will mean what Belgrade is willing it to mean and that is that.

The EU is no longer in any position to make the demands of yesteryear whether people like it or not. As I have repeated, the EU lives off Chinese loans in 2012 and is fighting for its survival as a union let alone worry too much about whether Serbia recognises Kosovo – despite what is said on B92 and the fervour of the debate, Kosovo is the least of their worries and it is relegated to the bottom of the “to be resolved pile”.


(Agim Kelmendi, 14 June 2012 21:42)

If your real name is Rumplestillskin and have been sleeping for the last 20 years then here is the latest – the EU is on the edge of a financial cataclysm which makes Serbia’s economic worries pale into insignificance. .
(gjon fusha, 14 June 2012 22:47)

The real facts are that the EU will NEVER allow Kosovo to join with Albania with the simple means of never giving money towards a project that will create a large Islamic country in Europe. Why do you think Turkey is sitting on the outside looking in for the last two decades? Albania is an extremely poor country and that is the way they will leave it. There is now a paranoia in Europe over Islamists and the recent elections have born that fear out in the election of right winged parties.

The truth comes out.

pre 11 godina

Don't be fooled Mr. Nikolic. No one else is.
(Rick, 14 June 2012 19:22)
# Comment link

Apparently you are wrong in that respect.

Martin

pre 11 godina

There is no politican is Serbia, except maybe Cedomir Jovanovic who would regognize Kosovo s independency. It is both important to defend teritorial integrity of country and keep good relationships with European Union. I hope that it is strategic goal of SNS.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"Yes and there are still people like you who believe in fairy tales, the tooth fairy, and that the German run EU is Serbia's friend. It is not merely a coincidence that the EU and NATO are both headquartered in Brussels."
(Dragan, 15 June 2012 15:39)

Indeed, it's not a coincidence, but these organizations deliberately chose a small state instead for their headquarters instead of a big one (like EU HQ in Germany or NATO in the USA) to keep away some simple-minded people from thinking that the big countries 'rule' or 'dominate' these organizations :)

Furthermore, the EU has no official headquarter or 'capital', but Brussels hosts the EU Parliament, EU Commission and several other organs.

Zoran

pre 11 godina

So now there's only Kostunica left (and maybe Seslj or his wife) who can tell the Serbs the fairy tale about the EU forcing Serbia to recognize Kosovo.
(Comm. Parrisson, 14 June 2012 20:16)
--
I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise "Kosova"*, the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.

So there we have it, what is said now is not so surprising. It doesn't mean Serbia's path to the EU will not involve further pressure by certain EU members.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

I think the misunderstanding is not about the EU and Serbia but rather the position of certain EU members and Serbia. Since five EU members don't recognise Kosova the EU cannot ask Serbia anything that is not unanimous within the union. However, that doesn't stop any EU member blocking Serbia's progress, such as Germany, since every EU member has a veto on membership.
(Zoran, 15 June 2012 00:45)

Correct. I have stated several times that the EU as such will never ask Serbia to recognize Kosovo or make it a criteria for joining. From that point of view there was and never will be a change.

However, states can make complete different approaches and we have many comments from politicians who do not represent EU but their countries, making clear that there won't be a 2nd Cyprus. This is even the right wording. They will not say "recognize Kosovo". They will it more sublte like "No 2nd Cyprus", leaving the problem and blame to Serbia. Very clever and effective. And still not a lie. In fact, you can not blame any Western politician or EU official regarding that topic. They all say the truth (at least when it comes to this). But when reading between the lines and using your brain you see that Serbia will not come around the decisive point and all Serbian politician who should know it (or even know it already) tiptoe around that. I'm seriously wondering why the Serbian media does not ask those questions. As a journalist, I would haunt them, exposing them as good as possible.

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pre 11 godina

"Barosso stressed during the same news conference the importance of "normalization of relations with Kosovo" when it came to Serbia's further EU progress, and the importance of the process of reconciliation in the Western Balkans. "

Define "normalization" in relations circulating between Serbia and Kosovo .This is going to be an infinite loop ,LOL.