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Tuesday, 05.06.2012.

10:02

Belgrade, EULEX react to local Serbs' decision

Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has said that "decisions on cooperation with EULEX will be made by a future government of Serbia".

Izvor: Tanjug

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icj1

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
(sj, 6 June 2012 04:47)

Don't waste your precious time with The Count of Kosova detracting from your important work in economic and financial matters. The Count of Kosova is lazy and relies in readily available GDP numbers instead of following your example of traveling from Malaysia to the US and visiting 300M+ people there to produce a much accurate picture of the reality...

Keep up your phenomenal work mate and your important contribution to mankind in economic and financial matters by providing real facts; that's why you are the CE of the B92 forums LOL

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

And where will you be General when all this gunfire is going off? messing your pants in the little boy's room.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

we always get americans who wish they were born Serbian on B92.
(Nikolle, 6 June 2012 10:39)

LOL we get diasporas from all over wishing they could fight for a piece of land they've never lived and would probably shoot themselves in the foot if given a gun in on B92 :)

Pro Human American

pre 11 godina

@ eu, you say you've traveled throughout the US...what was it,you did that weren't accepted in any part of the Country?! Rest assured Serbian People ...you have friends in the west and America...you haters have done a service to The Serbians...people in america are so tired of your wineing that @ this point if the Serbian people clean up their issues and speak out against the extremists, that seems these haters are...the kosovo issue could easily be undone...I'm not a big fan of balkan politicians but believe me if they work on shutting you haters up ...We would definitely support them...in previous comments you've stated the Serbia is the problem...last time I checked...I don't see the Serbian Comments promoting hate...the Serbians are a moral people. and I AS AN AMERICAN RESENT what you are saying, how we are as a nation!!!as a matter of the fact, I know personally people here that quit their posts in protest to what was happening to the People in Serbia... To be CLEAR there are plenty of people here that were against the bombing in 99 and your comments only instigate us to make sure you haters are silenced..Long Live Serbia and the Serbian People!!! I wasn't born a Serbian ,but I tell you when I read some of these posts, I wish I was !!!

icj1

pre 11 godina

But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 23:16)

Yes, that's correct... Russia has a veto power over Russia's decision to recognize Kosovo or not. Obviously it does not have any veto power for other countries' decision to recognize Kosovo since many have do so already.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

Now that you have vented your spleen, how far have your lot progressed with 90 recognitions? NOT ONE MICRON; that’s how far.
Come back and tell me all of this when you take control of the Serbs areas in the north.

sj

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
Living standards are important, but what you don’t understand or have problems of accepting is that living standards in your precious US have and are continuing to fall and there is only one way and that is down like a rock in a swimming pool. It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
On this issue of price of oil, you need to take a refresher course, what you are quoting is the daily price on the market, but most sign long term contracts and that is much better. Who told you this crap about costing $110 to get oil out of the ground? What have you been drinking? If that was the case it would mean the Russians would take a $20 dollar per barrel loss?????
Now you can enlighten me, since the Russians are badly off what does the west live off in 2012. Take into account that the real estate ponzy scheme is over and that borrowings are going through the roof. I wait with anticipation on this aspect.
If you were of someone of consequence I would have used the spell check, but your not.

MM

pre 11 godina

@Wesley Clark-You must feel very important by using this name, like a big shot, ha. He tried to be a big shot by running for president, but American people did not fall for it.

Pete K.

pre 11 godina

TO ALL BAD A** CROATS,ALBAINIAN{muslims},MONTENEGRANS,AND NAZI LOVERS,YOUR TIME CAME ONCE BEFORE{WWII} IT IS COMING AGAIN. BRAVE ONES {MY A**!}

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

I think makes it possible for RS to exist. In Kosovo I have to agree with you that Russia hasn't got many points so far. But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13),
It is so refreshing to hear your analysis of the world. One question, if Russia is so powerful and protective of Serbia, where is the results???
Did Russia stop NATO in 1999?
Did Russia stop the UDI?
Has Russia stopped 90+ recognitions?
Did Russia stop Kosovo entrance into IMF and WB?
Did Russia stop the reconfiguration of UNMIK?
Did Russia stop EULEX from moving into Kosovo?
Has Russia had one successful item on Kosovo passed at the UNSC?
Did Russia stop the removal of barricades in the north?
Did Russia stop the removal of illegal Serbian telephone towers in the south?
Did Russia stop the disconnection of electricity to Serbs who refused to pay the bill.
Did Russia allow K Serbs to become Russia citizens?
What has Russia done? They delivered some "humanitarian" supplies to the K Serbs for a show of support, after waiting at the gate for 3 days for "permission" from the EU to proceed.
As far as the fall of the US it seems that the rest of the world is not so certain as you.
Your postings are good for the uneducated and ultranationalists who pray they are true, but to anyone who can see through the emotional smokescreen know you are more hope than facts.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

LOL you're going to have to get your rocks off to something more realistic, kid :)

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.
(sj, 5 June 2012 14:01)

sj,

Are you saying that Living Standards don't count? Who is it that is bereft of arguments now! btw, Russia can't afford to pump oil out of the ground for $83 per barrel. They are a high cost producer, it costs Russia well over $110 per barrel just to get the oil out of the ground. The bad news for Russia is that the price of oil is still heading south and will not reverse direction in the foreseeable future. This must terrify them.

sj, you are running out of steam. It's time for you to take a refresher course at Madame Tokyo Rose's School of Propaganda. Also, I'd suggest using the Spell Check feature available, the word "doesn't" is not spelled "donsent".

EU

pre 11 godina

I have traveled, I have seen U.S. from East throughout the West Coast. I even went as far south as Texas. I have seen the potential U.S. has to really show the world what they have and have not even started using it yet, until Russia and most middle eastern countries are drilled and drained. Natural Resources have not even begun in U.S. even through the recession they maintained an average income 4 times more than so called " Kings of Europe (Russians)" That you have mentioned. Wake up, Russia stands no chance against EU itself let alone with U.S. on their side.

kiko

pre 11 godina

To: the 2 of you

Ask this simple question and try to answer it:

How many people are leaving Russia yearly and how many are leaving America yearly?

I think the figure is ~800K per year in Russia and nill for the US.

If America was in such a crisis, why are people still wanting to go to live there?

Even if a depression occurred in America what would happen? First thing I wouldn't be talking to either one of you via internet bc I'd cut that luxury out. America provides a lot of services but the standard of living wouldn't be better than Russia or China even if such a scenario happened. Based on infrastructure the US would still be king of either the above mentioned nations.

It'll be like Yugoslavia back in the hyperinflation days which would benefit the USA actually. All T-bonds that China owns would be worthless and China would lose. Russia as you mentioned has oil and gas and there are other suppliers out there besides the black bear. If Russia were to stop the tap on its supply you think the Europeans don't have a contingency plan? Yeah you suffer short term but long term Russia suffers even more. than that ~800K would definately increase.

China your buddies would be left with billion dollar dinars to wipe their azzes. And guess who came out ahead good ole US of A. And it didn't cost them a dime just the printed paper they dished out.

sj

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)
When Albanian pigs start flying you will see that. No one dares touch them and this hurts the most.

Bane

pre 11 godina

Actually the US would collapse if they stopped buying from China. The US is on their way down. Look at history (ie. Roman Empire) Every super power after 100 years falls. China, will be the new super power. There are already US politicians and documentaries out there that support this. Do some research before you start posting and comment flooding.

On another note. None of the countries in the former Yugoslavia get along well with one another. You are led to believe that they do because of media, and what the governments state in their policies. And we all know politicians are the most honest people, right?.

If the US and the EU countries did not mettle and influence the politicians at the time of the break up of Yugoslavia, there would be no war. The EU and US, wanted war becuase it was to their benefit.

Please dont be so neive. What you read and seen on TV is not always what is true. Serbia is being blamed for all the problems in the Balkans which is unfair. Everyone contributed, but the problem is media portrays serbia as the devil, and that serbia was accountable for the entire war.Which is not true.

I'm not even sure why Serbia wants to be in the Eurozone. Its a failure and it will lead to foreign companies buying out serbian companies. If you look at croatia or sovenia you will see that foreign companies own most of the businesses. as for the croatian coastline, what croatian coastline? might as well call it the new german coast line.

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 12:57)
Just by you opening statement you have shown that you just don’t understand what is going on and no China would not collapse as it only exports about 10% to the US. The Chinese have a middle class of over 350 million which is greater than the entire population of the US. Why doesn’t the US buy cheaper goods from Latin America? The US is in such a financial pickle that even Mitt Romney admitted during his campaign they will goes even deeper into recession and many more Americans will lose their jobs. This is a fact that even you US Treasury officials quietly admit to..The US is dying and European problem is only making it worse.
Yes I know all about the annual averge salary. Why even the Us had $43000, but go and ask the average American if he earns that. The better question to ask is the medium salary which would give you a better picture.
Yes the US can pay off its debt but to do that they would have to stop borrowing 1 triioin per year then make gigantic budget cuts that would decimate the defence and it would then need to kick start its economy then it would take a 5 decades.
When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo."


you write this as if it's a bad thing they were stopped

EU

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13)

Understand the fact that China would collapse if U.S. decided to stop buying their exports. They can always start buying the same goods from central American Latin countries, even cheaper when you think about transportation. So you assume you understand how this world works, but that's just a lie. China would instantly flick off Russia and anyone else who thinks they are closer to China than U.S. As for Russia? Since when did they become Kings of Europe, their annual average is about 13K, is that what you call Kings of Europe? hahaha While EU members are living by at least 3 times in average higher standards. We have yet to see the natural resources of U.S. I don't know if you have ever visited U.S. but you would feel sorry for Russia if you have seen how U.S. is living. As far as the money borrowed from China, they can manage that to be paid off better than any other nation had they been in their position. You're day dreaming to think Russians are kings in Europe, why can't you state facts, living in a fantasy world must really be nice and easy. I suggest you wake up and live through reality.

PEACE

EU

pre 11 godina

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 11:45)

How convenient is that for a Serbian to say? Very I would imagine lol, only Central Serbia is a normal state? The rest are just not? Hahhaahha Typical Serbian theories. Let me remind you another thing. We are well aware of who Serbians are, and what their plans are, however they will not succeed at any attempts to destabilize the Balkan region with the same old Serbian nationalist ideas which only Serbs would love to hear. Montenegro, Macedonia, Slovenia, and Croatia have recognized Kosovo. That says it all about Kosovo. Montenegro is about to open an embassy in Prishtina, Montenegrin Serbians are working smart aren't they, I suggest you Serbians from Serbia do the same. Help from China?? HAHAHA that is the joke of the week I have heard, and the week has just begun. We all realize the fact that Serbia is the main problem in Balkans, and we will not allow it to go on any further than it has. Nikolic will soon learn how to keep his mouth shut, and respect everyone around the Balkans.

PEACE

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 10:49)
Well what is the west waiting for? Take away the trillions that it gives Serbia. Mate if money was that easy to give away your delightful US et al would be living in luxury not the mess it’s in now.
I love people like you that are blinded by what surrounds them and economic chaos that hovers around the EU and US is a fairytale spun by the evil doers, and as usual the US blames the EU for its woes and you think either has a few spare Euros for aid to Serbia? Well that would funny because it would mean that the US and EU borrow from the Chinese just to hand it over to Serbia as a gift.
You don’t understand how things work in this world at all. If Serbia lives of those donations then why has it had to borrow money? You mean Russia uses Serbia in its game but the likes of Albanians or Croats etc the west treats with dignity and humanity – do you actually hear yourself talk? All major powers use others, but this time it’s the Serbs turn and they will make sure the job is finished.
If Russia is so weak why doesn’t the west bomb Serbia again? Hmmmm what are they waiting for Santa Claus to give them the green light? It can’t get Serbia to recognize Kosovo.; 1999 and 2012 are worlds apart. In 1999 Russia was broke but today its the king of Europe; that’s the difference.
NATO is now a pile of useless dung as its lost its only major war and will leave Afghanistan with its tail between its legs.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.
(EU)

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.

EU

pre 11 godina

There is a quick solution to Serbia and their new Nationalist leader. U.S. and EU should immediately cut off all the financial aid Serbia receives from both, and lets see what Serbs will do. Let's see how long they can last, let them beg Russia for all the money they take for granted from EU and U.S. Do you think Russia will step in and continue to help Serbia financially as EU and U.S. is doing so? I highly doubt it, the only thing Serbs receive from Russia is diplomatic comfort and support. Do Serbs really understand what Russia is doing for them? I highly doubt that too, but we all know they're not doing anything. They are using Serbia as a stick in a hockey game to score a goal, to reach their own personal interests, at the same time while Serbia is fading away economically and politically in every aspect. Serbians need to start thinking for themselves and not Russia. Russia has not been the one to pull you out of a mess at any time. Back in 1999, Serbia got bombed by NATO, what did Russia do other than bark around like a dog with its tale tucked between their legs? What are they doing right now as we speak? When will Serbs understand that the 90's are long gone. 21st Century has arrived 12 years ago? Get real Serbia, enough with your lies and propaganda's, we have heard every theory you have told us about your neighbors. They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.

PEACE

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.
(EU)

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 10:49)
Well what is the west waiting for? Take away the trillions that it gives Serbia. Mate if money was that easy to give away your delightful US et al would be living in luxury not the mess it’s in now.
I love people like you that are blinded by what surrounds them and economic chaos that hovers around the EU and US is a fairytale spun by the evil doers, and as usual the US blames the EU for its woes and you think either has a few spare Euros for aid to Serbia? Well that would funny because it would mean that the US and EU borrow from the Chinese just to hand it over to Serbia as a gift.
You don’t understand how things work in this world at all. If Serbia lives of those donations then why has it had to borrow money? You mean Russia uses Serbia in its game but the likes of Albanians or Croats etc the west treats with dignity and humanity – do you actually hear yourself talk? All major powers use others, but this time it’s the Serbs turn and they will make sure the job is finished.
If Russia is so weak why doesn’t the west bomb Serbia again? Hmmmm what are they waiting for Santa Claus to give them the green light? It can’t get Serbia to recognize Kosovo.; 1999 and 2012 are worlds apart. In 1999 Russia was broke but today its the king of Europe; that’s the difference.
NATO is now a pile of useless dung as its lost its only major war and will leave Afghanistan with its tail between its legs.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo."


you write this as if it's a bad thing they were stopped

EU

pre 11 godina

There is a quick solution to Serbia and their new Nationalist leader. U.S. and EU should immediately cut off all the financial aid Serbia receives from both, and lets see what Serbs will do. Let's see how long they can last, let them beg Russia for all the money they take for granted from EU and U.S. Do you think Russia will step in and continue to help Serbia financially as EU and U.S. is doing so? I highly doubt it, the only thing Serbs receive from Russia is diplomatic comfort and support. Do Serbs really understand what Russia is doing for them? I highly doubt that too, but we all know they're not doing anything. They are using Serbia as a stick in a hockey game to score a goal, to reach their own personal interests, at the same time while Serbia is fading away economically and politically in every aspect. Serbians need to start thinking for themselves and not Russia. Russia has not been the one to pull you out of a mess at any time. Back in 1999, Serbia got bombed by NATO, what did Russia do other than bark around like a dog with its tale tucked between their legs? What are they doing right now as we speak? When will Serbs understand that the 90's are long gone. 21st Century has arrived 12 years ago? Get real Serbia, enough with your lies and propaganda's, we have heard every theory you have told us about your neighbors. They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.

PEACE

EU

pre 11 godina

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 11:45)

How convenient is that for a Serbian to say? Very I would imagine lol, only Central Serbia is a normal state? The rest are just not? Hahhaahha Typical Serbian theories. Let me remind you another thing. We are well aware of who Serbians are, and what their plans are, however they will not succeed at any attempts to destabilize the Balkan region with the same old Serbian nationalist ideas which only Serbs would love to hear. Montenegro, Macedonia, Slovenia, and Croatia have recognized Kosovo. That says it all about Kosovo. Montenegro is about to open an embassy in Prishtina, Montenegrin Serbians are working smart aren't they, I suggest you Serbians from Serbia do the same. Help from China?? HAHAHA that is the joke of the week I have heard, and the week has just begun. We all realize the fact that Serbia is the main problem in Balkans, and we will not allow it to go on any further than it has. Nikolic will soon learn how to keep his mouth shut, and respect everyone around the Balkans.

PEACE

Bane

pre 11 godina

Actually the US would collapse if they stopped buying from China. The US is on their way down. Look at history (ie. Roman Empire) Every super power after 100 years falls. China, will be the new super power. There are already US politicians and documentaries out there that support this. Do some research before you start posting and comment flooding.

On another note. None of the countries in the former Yugoslavia get along well with one another. You are led to believe that they do because of media, and what the governments state in their policies. And we all know politicians are the most honest people, right?.

If the US and the EU countries did not mettle and influence the politicians at the time of the break up of Yugoslavia, there would be no war. The EU and US, wanted war becuase it was to their benefit.

Please dont be so neive. What you read and seen on TV is not always what is true. Serbia is being blamed for all the problems in the Balkans which is unfair. Everyone contributed, but the problem is media portrays serbia as the devil, and that serbia was accountable for the entire war.Which is not true.

I'm not even sure why Serbia wants to be in the Eurozone. Its a failure and it will lead to foreign companies buying out serbian companies. If you look at croatia or sovenia you will see that foreign companies own most of the businesses. as for the croatian coastline, what croatian coastline? might as well call it the new german coast line.

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 12:57)
Just by you opening statement you have shown that you just don’t understand what is going on and no China would not collapse as it only exports about 10% to the US. The Chinese have a middle class of over 350 million which is greater than the entire population of the US. Why doesn’t the US buy cheaper goods from Latin America? The US is in such a financial pickle that even Mitt Romney admitted during his campaign they will goes even deeper into recession and many more Americans will lose their jobs. This is a fact that even you US Treasury officials quietly admit to..The US is dying and European problem is only making it worse.
Yes I know all about the annual averge salary. Why even the Us had $43000, but go and ask the average American if he earns that. The better question to ask is the medium salary which would give you a better picture.
Yes the US can pay off its debt but to do that they would have to stop borrowing 1 triioin per year then make gigantic budget cuts that would decimate the defence and it would then need to kick start its economy then it would take a 5 decades.
When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.

kiko

pre 11 godina

To: the 2 of you

Ask this simple question and try to answer it:

How many people are leaving Russia yearly and how many are leaving America yearly?

I think the figure is ~800K per year in Russia and nill for the US.

If America was in such a crisis, why are people still wanting to go to live there?

Even if a depression occurred in America what would happen? First thing I wouldn't be talking to either one of you via internet bc I'd cut that luxury out. America provides a lot of services but the standard of living wouldn't be better than Russia or China even if such a scenario happened. Based on infrastructure the US would still be king of either the above mentioned nations.

It'll be like Yugoslavia back in the hyperinflation days which would benefit the USA actually. All T-bonds that China owns would be worthless and China would lose. Russia as you mentioned has oil and gas and there are other suppliers out there besides the black bear. If Russia were to stop the tap on its supply you think the Europeans don't have a contingency plan? Yeah you suffer short term but long term Russia suffers even more. than that ~800K would definately increase.

China your buddies would be left with billion dollar dinars to wipe their azzes. And guess who came out ahead good ole US of A. And it didn't cost them a dime just the printed paper they dished out.

sj

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)
When Albanian pigs start flying you will see that. No one dares touch them and this hurts the most.

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13),
It is so refreshing to hear your analysis of the world. One question, if Russia is so powerful and protective of Serbia, where is the results???
Did Russia stop NATO in 1999?
Did Russia stop the UDI?
Has Russia stopped 90+ recognitions?
Did Russia stop Kosovo entrance into IMF and WB?
Did Russia stop the reconfiguration of UNMIK?
Did Russia stop EULEX from moving into Kosovo?
Has Russia had one successful item on Kosovo passed at the UNSC?
Did Russia stop the removal of barricades in the north?
Did Russia stop the removal of illegal Serbian telephone towers in the south?
Did Russia stop the disconnection of electricity to Serbs who refused to pay the bill.
Did Russia allow K Serbs to become Russia citizens?
What has Russia done? They delivered some "humanitarian" supplies to the K Serbs for a show of support, after waiting at the gate for 3 days for "permission" from the EU to proceed.
As far as the fall of the US it seems that the rest of the world is not so certain as you.
Your postings are good for the uneducated and ultranationalists who pray they are true, but to anyone who can see through the emotional smokescreen know you are more hope than facts.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.
(sj, 5 June 2012 14:01)

sj,

Are you saying that Living Standards don't count? Who is it that is bereft of arguments now! btw, Russia can't afford to pump oil out of the ground for $83 per barrel. They are a high cost producer, it costs Russia well over $110 per barrel just to get the oil out of the ground. The bad news for Russia is that the price of oil is still heading south and will not reverse direction in the foreseeable future. This must terrify them.

sj, you are running out of steam. It's time for you to take a refresher course at Madame Tokyo Rose's School of Propaganda. Also, I'd suggest using the Spell Check feature available, the word "doesn't" is not spelled "donsent".

EU

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13)

Understand the fact that China would collapse if U.S. decided to stop buying their exports. They can always start buying the same goods from central American Latin countries, even cheaper when you think about transportation. So you assume you understand how this world works, but that's just a lie. China would instantly flick off Russia and anyone else who thinks they are closer to China than U.S. As for Russia? Since when did they become Kings of Europe, their annual average is about 13K, is that what you call Kings of Europe? hahaha While EU members are living by at least 3 times in average higher standards. We have yet to see the natural resources of U.S. I don't know if you have ever visited U.S. but you would feel sorry for Russia if you have seen how U.S. is living. As far as the money borrowed from China, they can manage that to be paid off better than any other nation had they been in their position. You're day dreaming to think Russians are kings in Europe, why can't you state facts, living in a fantasy world must really be nice and easy. I suggest you wake up and live through reality.

PEACE

EU

pre 11 godina

I have traveled, I have seen U.S. from East throughout the West Coast. I even went as far south as Texas. I have seen the potential U.S. has to really show the world what they have and have not even started using it yet, until Russia and most middle eastern countries are drilled and drained. Natural Resources have not even begun in U.S. even through the recession they maintained an average income 4 times more than so called " Kings of Europe (Russians)" That you have mentioned. Wake up, Russia stands no chance against EU itself let alone with U.S. on their side.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

LOL you're going to have to get your rocks off to something more realistic, kid :)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

I think makes it possible for RS to exist. In Kosovo I have to agree with you that Russia hasn't got many points so far. But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.

Pro Human American

pre 11 godina

@ eu, you say you've traveled throughout the US...what was it,you did that weren't accepted in any part of the Country?! Rest assured Serbian People ...you have friends in the west and America...you haters have done a service to The Serbians...people in america are so tired of your wineing that @ this point if the Serbian people clean up their issues and speak out against the extremists, that seems these haters are...the kosovo issue could easily be undone...I'm not a big fan of balkan politicians but believe me if they work on shutting you haters up ...We would definitely support them...in previous comments you've stated the Serbia is the problem...last time I checked...I don't see the Serbian Comments promoting hate...the Serbians are a moral people. and I AS AN AMERICAN RESENT what you are saying, how we are as a nation!!!as a matter of the fact, I know personally people here that quit their posts in protest to what was happening to the People in Serbia... To be CLEAR there are plenty of people here that were against the bombing in 99 and your comments only instigate us to make sure you haters are silenced..Long Live Serbia and the Serbian People!!! I wasn't born a Serbian ,but I tell you when I read some of these posts, I wish I was !!!

MM

pre 11 godina

@Wesley Clark-You must feel very important by using this name, like a big shot, ha. He tried to be a big shot by running for president, but American people did not fall for it.

icj1

pre 11 godina

But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 23:16)

Yes, that's correct... Russia has a veto power over Russia's decision to recognize Kosovo or not. Obviously it does not have any veto power for other countries' decision to recognize Kosovo since many have do so already.

Pete K.

pre 11 godina

TO ALL BAD A** CROATS,ALBAINIAN{muslims},MONTENEGRANS,AND NAZI LOVERS,YOUR TIME CAME ONCE BEFORE{WWII} IT IS COMING AGAIN. BRAVE ONES {MY A**!}

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

Now that you have vented your spleen, how far have your lot progressed with 90 recognitions? NOT ONE MICRON; that’s how far.
Come back and tell me all of this when you take control of the Serbs areas in the north.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

we always get americans who wish they were born Serbian on B92.
(Nikolle, 6 June 2012 10:39)

LOL we get diasporas from all over wishing they could fight for a piece of land they've never lived and would probably shoot themselves in the foot if given a gun in on B92 :)

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

And where will you be General when all this gunfire is going off? messing your pants in the little boy's room.

sj

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
Living standards are important, but what you don’t understand or have problems of accepting is that living standards in your precious US have and are continuing to fall and there is only one way and that is down like a rock in a swimming pool. It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
On this issue of price of oil, you need to take a refresher course, what you are quoting is the daily price on the market, but most sign long term contracts and that is much better. Who told you this crap about costing $110 to get oil out of the ground? What have you been drinking? If that was the case it would mean the Russians would take a $20 dollar per barrel loss?????
Now you can enlighten me, since the Russians are badly off what does the west live off in 2012. Take into account that the real estate ponzy scheme is over and that borrowings are going through the roof. I wait with anticipation on this aspect.
If you were of someone of consequence I would have used the spell check, but your not.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
(sj, 6 June 2012 04:47)

Don't waste your precious time with The Count of Kosova detracting from your important work in economic and financial matters. The Count of Kosova is lazy and relies in readily available GDP numbers instead of following your example of traveling from Malaysia to the US and visiting 300M+ people there to produce a much accurate picture of the reality...

Keep up your phenomenal work mate and your important contribution to mankind in economic and financial matters by providing real facts; that's why you are the CE of the B92 forums LOL

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

EU

pre 11 godina

There is a quick solution to Serbia and their new Nationalist leader. U.S. and EU should immediately cut off all the financial aid Serbia receives from both, and lets see what Serbs will do. Let's see how long they can last, let them beg Russia for all the money they take for granted from EU and U.S. Do you think Russia will step in and continue to help Serbia financially as EU and U.S. is doing so? I highly doubt it, the only thing Serbs receive from Russia is diplomatic comfort and support. Do Serbs really understand what Russia is doing for them? I highly doubt that too, but we all know they're not doing anything. They are using Serbia as a stick in a hockey game to score a goal, to reach their own personal interests, at the same time while Serbia is fading away economically and politically in every aspect. Serbians need to start thinking for themselves and not Russia. Russia has not been the one to pull you out of a mess at any time. Back in 1999, Serbia got bombed by NATO, what did Russia do other than bark around like a dog with its tale tucked between their legs? What are they doing right now as we speak? When will Serbs understand that the 90's are long gone. 21st Century has arrived 12 years ago? Get real Serbia, enough with your lies and propaganda's, we have heard every theory you have told us about your neighbors. They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.

PEACE

EU

pre 11 godina

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 11:45)

How convenient is that for a Serbian to say? Very I would imagine lol, only Central Serbia is a normal state? The rest are just not? Hahhaahha Typical Serbian theories. Let me remind you another thing. We are well aware of who Serbians are, and what their plans are, however they will not succeed at any attempts to destabilize the Balkan region with the same old Serbian nationalist ideas which only Serbs would love to hear. Montenegro, Macedonia, Slovenia, and Croatia have recognized Kosovo. That says it all about Kosovo. Montenegro is about to open an embassy in Prishtina, Montenegrin Serbians are working smart aren't they, I suggest you Serbians from Serbia do the same. Help from China?? HAHAHA that is the joke of the week I have heard, and the week has just begun. We all realize the fact that Serbia is the main problem in Balkans, and we will not allow it to go on any further than it has. Nikolic will soon learn how to keep his mouth shut, and respect everyone around the Balkans.

PEACE

Wesley Clark

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

They all get along Bosnia, Kosovo, Crotia, Slovenia, Montenegro, and Macedonia. It seems like Serbia is the problem and has been the problem.
(EU)

Bosnia doesn't get along, actually it doesn't exist as normal state. It isn't a state, it's a Western pet project.

Kosovo isn't a state.

Croatia is a stable state just because they were allowed to ethnically cleansed Serb minority, while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo.

Macedonia has ethnic problems.

Central Serbia is normal state.

BTW Serbia could get help from China.

Nikolle

pre 11 godina

"while Serbs were not allowed to ethnically cleansed Albanian minority from Kosovo."


you write this as if it's a bad thing they were stopped

sj

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)
When Albanian pigs start flying you will see that. No one dares touch them and this hurts the most.

EU

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13)

Understand the fact that China would collapse if U.S. decided to stop buying their exports. They can always start buying the same goods from central American Latin countries, even cheaper when you think about transportation. So you assume you understand how this world works, but that's just a lie. China would instantly flick off Russia and anyone else who thinks they are closer to China than U.S. As for Russia? Since when did they become Kings of Europe, their annual average is about 13K, is that what you call Kings of Europe? hahaha While EU members are living by at least 3 times in average higher standards. We have yet to see the natural resources of U.S. I don't know if you have ever visited U.S. but you would feel sorry for Russia if you have seen how U.S. is living. As far as the money borrowed from China, they can manage that to be paid off better than any other nation had they been in their position. You're day dreaming to think Russians are kings in Europe, why can't you state facts, living in a fantasy world must really be nice and easy. I suggest you wake up and live through reality.

PEACE

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 10:49)
Well what is the west waiting for? Take away the trillions that it gives Serbia. Mate if money was that easy to give away your delightful US et al would be living in luxury not the mess it’s in now.
I love people like you that are blinded by what surrounds them and economic chaos that hovers around the EU and US is a fairytale spun by the evil doers, and as usual the US blames the EU for its woes and you think either has a few spare Euros for aid to Serbia? Well that would funny because it would mean that the US and EU borrow from the Chinese just to hand it over to Serbia as a gift.
You don’t understand how things work in this world at all. If Serbia lives of those donations then why has it had to borrow money? You mean Russia uses Serbia in its game but the likes of Albanians or Croats etc the west treats with dignity and humanity – do you actually hear yourself talk? All major powers use others, but this time it’s the Serbs turn and they will make sure the job is finished.
If Russia is so weak why doesn’t the west bomb Serbia again? Hmmmm what are they waiting for Santa Claus to give them the green light? It can’t get Serbia to recognize Kosovo.; 1999 and 2012 are worlds apart. In 1999 Russia was broke but today its the king of Europe; that’s the difference.
NATO is now a pile of useless dung as its lost its only major war and will leave Afghanistan with its tail between its legs.

EU

pre 11 godina

I have traveled, I have seen U.S. from East throughout the West Coast. I even went as far south as Texas. I have seen the potential U.S. has to really show the world what they have and have not even started using it yet, until Russia and most middle eastern countries are drilled and drained. Natural Resources have not even begun in U.S. even through the recession they maintained an average income 4 times more than so called " Kings of Europe (Russians)" That you have mentioned. Wake up, Russia stands no chance against EU itself let alone with U.S. on their side.

Bane

pre 11 godina

Actually the US would collapse if they stopped buying from China. The US is on their way down. Look at history (ie. Roman Empire) Every super power after 100 years falls. China, will be the new super power. There are already US politicians and documentaries out there that support this. Do some research before you start posting and comment flooding.

On another note. None of the countries in the former Yugoslavia get along well with one another. You are led to believe that they do because of media, and what the governments state in their policies. And we all know politicians are the most honest people, right?.

If the US and the EU countries did not mettle and influence the politicians at the time of the break up of Yugoslavia, there would be no war. The EU and US, wanted war becuase it was to their benefit.

Please dont be so neive. What you read and seen on TV is not always what is true. Serbia is being blamed for all the problems in the Balkans which is unfair. Everyone contributed, but the problem is media portrays serbia as the devil, and that serbia was accountable for the entire war.Which is not true.

I'm not even sure why Serbia wants to be in the Eurozone. Its a failure and it will lead to foreign companies buying out serbian companies. If you look at croatia or sovenia you will see that foreign companies own most of the businesses. as for the croatian coastline, what croatian coastline? might as well call it the new german coast line.

kiko

pre 11 godina

To: the 2 of you

Ask this simple question and try to answer it:

How many people are leaving Russia yearly and how many are leaving America yearly?

I think the figure is ~800K per year in Russia and nill for the US.

If America was in such a crisis, why are people still wanting to go to live there?

Even if a depression occurred in America what would happen? First thing I wouldn't be talking to either one of you via internet bc I'd cut that luxury out. America provides a lot of services but the standard of living wouldn't be better than Russia or China even if such a scenario happened. Based on infrastructure the US would still be king of either the above mentioned nations.

It'll be like Yugoslavia back in the hyperinflation days which would benefit the USA actually. All T-bonds that China owns would be worthless and China would lose. Russia as you mentioned has oil and gas and there are other suppliers out there besides the black bear. If Russia were to stop the tap on its supply you think the Europeans don't have a contingency plan? Yeah you suffer short term but long term Russia suffers even more. than that ~800K would definately increase.

China your buddies would be left with billion dollar dinars to wipe their azzes. And guess who came out ahead good ole US of A. And it didn't cost them a dime just the printed paper they dished out.

sj

pre 11 godina

(EU, 5 June 2012 12:57)
Just by you opening statement you have shown that you just don’t understand what is going on and no China would not collapse as it only exports about 10% to the US. The Chinese have a middle class of over 350 million which is greater than the entire population of the US. Why doesn’t the US buy cheaper goods from Latin America? The US is in such a financial pickle that even Mitt Romney admitted during his campaign they will goes even deeper into recession and many more Americans will lose their jobs. This is a fact that even you US Treasury officials quietly admit to..The US is dying and European problem is only making it worse.
Yes I know all about the annual averge salary. Why even the Us had $43000, but go and ask the average American if he earns that. The better question to ask is the medium salary which would give you a better picture.
Yes the US can pay off its debt but to do that they would have to stop borrowing 1 triioin per year then make gigantic budget cuts that would decimate the defence and it would then need to kick start its economy then it would take a 5 decades.
When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

LOL you're going to have to get your rocks off to something more realistic, kid :)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

I think makes it possible for RS to exist. In Kosovo I have to agree with you that Russia hasn't got many points so far. But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

When bereft of an argument its back to old faithful – living standards. Try travelling a little and you just might see whats happening. Oh yes the Russians have the gas and oil and if Europe donsent want it there are plenty of others that do.
(sj, 5 June 2012 14:01)

sj,

Are you saying that Living Standards don't count? Who is it that is bereft of arguments now! btw, Russia can't afford to pump oil out of the ground for $83 per barrel. They are a high cost producer, it costs Russia well over $110 per barrel just to get the oil out of the ground. The bad news for Russia is that the price of oil is still heading south and will not reverse direction in the foreseeable future. This must terrify them.

sj, you are running out of steam. It's time for you to take a refresher course at Madame Tokyo Rose's School of Propaganda. Also, I'd suggest using the Spell Check feature available, the word "doesn't" is not spelled "donsent".

pss

pre 11 godina

(sj, 5 June 2012 12:13),
It is so refreshing to hear your analysis of the world. One question, if Russia is so powerful and protective of Serbia, where is the results???
Did Russia stop NATO in 1999?
Did Russia stop the UDI?
Has Russia stopped 90+ recognitions?
Did Russia stop Kosovo entrance into IMF and WB?
Did Russia stop the reconfiguration of UNMIK?
Did Russia stop EULEX from moving into Kosovo?
Has Russia had one successful item on Kosovo passed at the UNSC?
Did Russia stop the removal of barricades in the north?
Did Russia stop the removal of illegal Serbian telephone towers in the south?
Did Russia stop the disconnection of electricity to Serbs who refused to pay the bill.
Did Russia allow K Serbs to become Russia citizens?
What has Russia done? They delivered some "humanitarian" supplies to the K Serbs for a show of support, after waiting at the gate for 3 days for "permission" from the EU to proceed.
As far as the fall of the US it seems that the rest of the world is not so certain as you.
Your postings are good for the uneducated and ultranationalists who pray they are true, but to anyone who can see through the emotional smokescreen know you are more hope than facts.

MM

pre 11 godina

@Wesley Clark-You must feel very important by using this name, like a big shot, ha. He tried to be a big shot by running for president, but American people did not fall for it.

sj

pre 11 godina

(pss, 5 June 2012 20:46)

Now that you have vented your spleen, how far have your lot progressed with 90 recognitions? NOT ONE MICRON; that’s how far.
Come back and tell me all of this when you take control of the Serbs areas in the north.

Pro Human American

pre 11 godina

@ eu, you say you've traveled throughout the US...what was it,you did that weren't accepted in any part of the Country?! Rest assured Serbian People ...you have friends in the west and America...you haters have done a service to The Serbians...people in america are so tired of your wineing that @ this point if the Serbian people clean up their issues and speak out against the extremists, that seems these haters are...the kosovo issue could easily be undone...I'm not a big fan of balkan politicians but believe me if they work on shutting you haters up ...We would definitely support them...in previous comments you've stated the Serbia is the problem...last time I checked...I don't see the Serbian Comments promoting hate...the Serbians are a moral people. and I AS AN AMERICAN RESENT what you are saying, how we are as a nation!!!as a matter of the fact, I know personally people here that quit their posts in protest to what was happening to the People in Serbia... To be CLEAR there are plenty of people here that were against the bombing in 99 and your comments only instigate us to make sure you haters are silenced..Long Live Serbia and the Serbian People!!! I wasn't born a Serbian ,but I tell you when I read some of these posts, I wish I was !!!

Pete K.

pre 11 godina

TO ALL BAD A** CROATS,ALBAINIAN{muslims},MONTENEGRANS,AND NAZI LOVERS,YOUR TIME CAME ONCE BEFORE{WWII} IT IS COMING AGAIN. BRAVE ONES {MY A**!}

sj

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
Living standards are important, but what you don’t understand or have problems of accepting is that living standards in your precious US have and are continuing to fall and there is only one way and that is down like a rock in a swimming pool. It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
On this issue of price of oil, you need to take a refresher course, what you are quoting is the daily price on the market, but most sign long term contracts and that is much better. Who told you this crap about costing $110 to get oil out of the ground? What have you been drinking? If that was the case it would mean the Russians would take a $20 dollar per barrel loss?????
Now you can enlighten me, since the Russians are badly off what does the west live off in 2012. Take into account that the real estate ponzy scheme is over and that borrowings are going through the roof. I wait with anticipation on this aspect.
If you were of someone of consequence I would have used the spell check, but your not.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

we always get americans who wish they were born Serbian on B92.
(Nikolle, 6 June 2012 10:39)

LOL we get diasporas from all over wishing they could fight for a piece of land they've never lived and would probably shoot themselves in the foot if given a gun in on B92 :)

Oliver Cromwell

pre 11 godina

I can't wait for EULEX to "respond" to the local Serbs with batons and gunfire. Its really just that simple. They only understand force! Force they shall receive.
(Wesley Clark, 5 June 2012 14:53)

And where will you be General when all this gunfire is going off? messing your pants in the little boy's room.

icj1

pre 11 godina

But Still Russia's veto power doesn't allow "Kosovo" to become a state, it keeps "Kosovo" questionable territory.
(aaayyy, 5 June 2012 23:16)

Yes, that's correct... Russia has a veto power over Russia's decision to recognize Kosovo or not. Obviously it does not have any veto power for other countries' decision to recognize Kosovo since many have do so already.

icj1

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosova, 5 June 2012 18:08)
It’s not a wish mate, it a fact. You can GDP all you like but go out and have a good look around and it might come as a shock.
(sj, 6 June 2012 04:47)

Don't waste your precious time with The Count of Kosova detracting from your important work in economic and financial matters. The Count of Kosova is lazy and relies in readily available GDP numbers instead of following your example of traveling from Malaysia to the US and visiting 300M+ people there to produce a much accurate picture of the reality...

Keep up your phenomenal work mate and your important contribution to mankind in economic and financial matters by providing real facts; that's why you are the CE of the B92 forums LOL

P.S. CE = Chief Economist