Croat president: Nikolić must change his position

"Croat president: Nikolić must change his position"

Well, that shouldn't be a problem. Nikolic changes his position so often that the only thing the knows he wants for sure is to be in power.

Sumadinac

There were more serbs than croats in the vukovar area at one point.

Lets not forget about the horrors and systematic persecution and genocide that croats did to serbs. The croats would prefer that the world forgets about history. Sorry guys, not gonna happen.

Why should Serbs be the only ones to change. The croats have held their Nazi beliefs for decades and no one has asked them to change.

what is it with you avni ? why are you so obsessed with us SERBS

Serbs changing. No way.

So whats the issue? Vucovar WAS a Serbian town when he said it, and then NATO, in service of the Ustase, ethnically clensed it of all Serbs. I don't see a contradiction in his statements.

Half of tomislav nikolic's head is up in Putin's butt

Nikolic must change his position so Croats can fulfill Tudjman's goal.

Albanians paying for themselves? Never!

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni, 27 May 2012 16:52)

Albos trolling. Now way.

"Tomislav Nikolić used to say this but it is not what he is saying today"

LOL!

Just imagine what other positions these dopes will change for the sake of consolidating power. Before you know it, they'll be to the left of Ceda.

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni, 27 May 2012 16:52)
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No need to change. We are great the way we are.

The croats would prefer that the world forgets about history. Sorry guys, not gonna happen.
(Lazar, 27 May 2012 17:11)

Problem is Lazar,many people in the west don't know about that History and the corporate propaganda machine would like it to stay that way,they want to pin the NAZI label on the serbs not where it belongs on the Croats.

You people are beyond deluded. Vukovar was NEVER a Serbian town, until WWII it had a large German and Croat population [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vukovar#Demographics]. Serbs only started being shipped en mass in Vukovar after WWII, meaning in NO WAY is it a serbian town! Aren't FACTS amazing?

Why you don't see your business,is the problem of Serbia in which position to be not yours.

@vukovar check this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW_OVFuyQ4&list=FLfK2OT7-0cArVRsNPv0uuyQ&index=3&feature=plpp_video
A link where Orthodox Serbs were forced to convert to catholism and because they are cathloic they have to be Croat in de region of Eastern Slavonia including Vukovar...

Also in Slavonia lived the catholic Sokci and Cathloic Bunjevci those ethnic groups ae Serbs!! and because of their religion the croats forced them to become croat simple as that!

croatia....you are a joke!

Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) leader Aleksandar Vučić said that “Tomislav Nikolić used to say this but it is not what he is saying today”.

Simple answer, The Croatian Government should invite Nikolic to lay a wreath at the next Vukovar Remembrance Day.

Now that would be interesting

Mick, abandon your Seselj-issued fairy tales. No one believe that ludicrous myth but Seselj-educated follows. 1931 Vukovar was an overwhelming German-speaking town. Oops, or should I say Germanised Serbs who were forced to speak German and adopt German names and convert to Catholicism.

This is why Croatia is wary of Nikolic. Can anyone honestly blame them?

That's a pretty ugly video, Mick.

And I'm talking about the boorish interviewer at the end harassing that man and his father as to what their ethnic identity is. What's it to them?

Nothing a nationalist hates more than someone he perceives as a 'traitor' to their ethnicity. What a bunch of ugly would-be autocrats. They'd like to kill that old man. absolutely disgusting.

Hvala bogu sto nisam srbin.

@ mick

Re: your comment..."Also in Slavonia lived the catholic Sokci and Cathloic Bunjevci those ethnic groups are Serbs!"

Are you serious!?

Do you even know where Bunjevci originated from before they settled in Vojvodina? Do you even know why they speak in an "ikavski" dialect? Or why they even have a Catholic background in the first place?

Man, you Serbs are the kings of propaganda. I'll give you that.

oh. sorry, honest ed. looks like I'm guilty of the same crime I accuse you of - not reading your post. I see you do go back to the 1930s

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni)

I really hope you're right. :)

vukovar, what's with your ill informed propoganda?

National structure of the population of Vukovar:[8][9]
Year Total Croats % Serbs % Germans % Hungarians % Others %
2001 31.670 18.199 57,5% 10.412 32,9% 58 0,2% 387 1,2% 2.614 8,3%
1990 44.639 21.065 47,2% 14.425 32,3% 94 0,2% 694 1,5% 8.361 18,8%
1971 30.222 14.694 48,6% 9.132 30,2% 60 0,2% 835 2,8% 5.501 18,2%
1948 17.223 10.943 63,5% 4.390 25,5% 54 0,3% 913 5,3% 923 5,3%
1931 10.242 5.048 49,6% 1.702 16,6% 2.670 26,1% 571 5,6% 215 2,0%
1910 10.359 4.092 39,5% 1.628 15,7% 3.503 33,8% 954 9,2% 183 1,8%

National structure of the population in the municipality of Vukovar: Year of census total Croats % Serbs % Others %
2001 31,670 18,199 (57.46%) 10,412 (32.88%) 3,059 (9.66%)
1991 84,024 36,910 (43.93%) 31,910 (37.98%) 15,204 (18.09%)
1981 81,203 30,157 (37.14%) 25,146 (30.97%) 25,903 (31.89%)
1971 76,602 34,629 (45.21%) 28,470 (37.17%) 13,593 (17.09%)
1961 54,707 24,527 (44.83%) 22,774 (41.63%) 7,406 (13.54%)

as of 1991 it would seem that the municipality (urban and rural) population breakup was 6% difference between croat and serb.

the germans majority you sepeak of was a large number, but not majority

None of this has any bearing, however, on my original point.

How ugly is the face of nationalism in the Balkans. This poor guy in the video probably has no idea of it's the Serbian thought-police or the Croatian thought-police visiting and interrogating him as to his ethnicity.

poor guys probably had the Croatian identity-police visiting him just a few days before.

There is no difference between Croatian and Serbian nationalism in this respect. They both feel entitled and empowered to tell other people what their identity is or isn't. You see this on this board all the time.

Hvala bogu sto nisam srbin.
(Danilo, 28 May 2012 17:41)
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I agree, but then what are you doing in Serbia?
Why didn't you set your shop up in Croatia?
Seriously, how can you live in a country full of people you hate?

Why would I set up in Croatia, Peggy? What's with this strange binary thinking: if not Serbia, then Croatia.

I've already explained myself why I'm in Serbia. I'm taking advantage of the only advantage Serbia has - low wages. Wages in Croatia are too high. Same thing with India.

Thanks for your concern, though. I try to get out of this dump as often as I can. Overall, I'm probably less in Serbia than I am outside of Serbia.

Thanks again for your concern.


Once again, since you're making me repeat myself, I'll repeat that it amuses me to contemplate that I do more concrete good in Serbia (with the several people I employ) every month than you'll do in your entire life.

That makes me smile.

Serbs changing. No way.

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni, 27 May 2012 16:52)
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No need to change. We are great the way we are.

So whats the issue? Vucovar WAS a Serbian town when he said it, and then NATO, in service of the Ustase, ethnically clensed it of all Serbs. I don't see a contradiction in his statements.

The croats would prefer that the world forgets about history. Sorry guys, not gonna happen.
(Lazar, 27 May 2012 17:11)

Problem is Lazar,many people in the west don't know about that History and the corporate propaganda machine would like it to stay that way,they want to pin the NAZI label on the serbs not where it belongs on the Croats.

Half of tomislav nikolic's head is up in Putin's butt

Why should Serbs be the only ones to change. The croats have held their Nazi beliefs for decades and no one has asked them to change.

There were more serbs than croats in the vukovar area at one point.

Lets not forget about the horrors and systematic persecution and genocide that croats did to serbs. The croats would prefer that the world forgets about history. Sorry guys, not gonna happen.

what is it with you avni ? why are you so obsessed with us SERBS

Nikolic must change his position so Croats can fulfill Tudjman's goal.

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni, 27 May 2012 16:52)

Albos trolling. Now way.

You people are beyond deluded. Vukovar was NEVER a Serbian town, until WWII it had a large German and Croat population [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vukovar#Demographics]. Serbs only started being shipped en mass in Vukovar after WWII, meaning in NO WAY is it a serbian town! Aren't FACTS amazing?

Albanians paying for themselves? Never!

Why you don't see your business,is the problem of Serbia in which position to be not yours.

@vukovar check this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW_OVFuyQ4&list=FLfK2OT7-0cArVRsNPv0uuyQ&index=3&feature=plpp_video
A link where Orthodox Serbs were forced to convert to catholism and because they are cathloic they have to be Croat in de region of Eastern Slavonia including Vukovar...

Also in Slavonia lived the catholic Sokci and Cathloic Bunjevci those ethnic groups ae Serbs!! and because of their religion the croats forced them to become croat simple as that!

"Croat president: Nikolić must change his position"

Well, that shouldn't be a problem. Nikolic changes his position so often that the only thing the knows he wants for sure is to be in power.

Sumadinac

Serbs changing. No way.
(Avni)

I really hope you're right. :)

croatia....you are a joke!

"Tomislav Nikolić used to say this but it is not what he is saying today"

LOL!

Just imagine what other positions these dopes will change for the sake of consolidating power. Before you know it, they'll be to the left of Ceda.

Serbian Progressive Party (SNS) leader Aleksandar Vučić said that “Tomislav Nikolić used to say this but it is not what he is saying today”.

Simple answer, The Croatian Government should invite Nikolic to lay a wreath at the next Vukovar Remembrance Day.

Now that would be interesting

vukovar, what's with your ill informed propoganda?

National structure of the population of Vukovar:[8][9]
Year Total Croats % Serbs % Germans % Hungarians % Others %
2001 31.670 18.199 57,5% 10.412 32,9% 58 0,2% 387 1,2% 2.614 8,3%
1990 44.639 21.065 47,2% 14.425 32,3% 94 0,2% 694 1,5% 8.361 18,8%
1971 30.222 14.694 48,6% 9.132 30,2% 60 0,2% 835 2,8% 5.501 18,2%
1948 17.223 10.943 63,5% 4.390 25,5% 54 0,3% 913 5,3% 923 5,3%
1931 10.242 5.048 49,6% 1.702 16,6% 2.670 26,1% 571 5,6% 215 2,0%
1910 10.359 4.092 39,5% 1.628 15,7% 3.503 33,8% 954 9,2% 183 1,8%

National structure of the population in the municipality of Vukovar: Year of census total Croats % Serbs % Others %
2001 31,670 18,199 (57.46%) 10,412 (32.88%) 3,059 (9.66%)
1991 84,024 36,910 (43.93%) 31,910 (37.98%) 15,204 (18.09%)
1981 81,203 30,157 (37.14%) 25,146 (30.97%) 25,903 (31.89%)
1971 76,602 34,629 (45.21%) 28,470 (37.17%) 13,593 (17.09%)
1961 54,707 24,527 (44.83%) 22,774 (41.63%) 7,406 (13.54%)

as of 1991 it would seem that the municipality (urban and rural) population breakup was 6% difference between croat and serb.

the germans majority you sepeak of was a large number, but not majority

Mick, abandon your Seselj-issued fairy tales. No one believe that ludicrous myth but Seselj-educated follows. 1931 Vukovar was an overwhelming German-speaking town. Oops, or should I say Germanised Serbs who were forced to speak German and adopt German names and convert to Catholicism.

This is why Croatia is wary of Nikolic. Can anyone honestly blame them?

That's a pretty ugly video, Mick.

And I'm talking about the boorish interviewer at the end harassing that man and his father as to what their ethnic identity is. What's it to them?

Nothing a nationalist hates more than someone he perceives as a 'traitor' to their ethnicity. What a bunch of ugly would-be autocrats. They'd like to kill that old man. absolutely disgusting.

Hvala bogu sto nisam srbin.

oh. sorry, honest ed. looks like I'm guilty of the same crime I accuse you of - not reading your post. I see you do go back to the 1930s

@ mick

Re: your comment..."Also in Slavonia lived the catholic Sokci and Cathloic Bunjevci those ethnic groups are Serbs!"

Are you serious!?

Do you even know where Bunjevci originated from before they settled in Vojvodina? Do you even know why they speak in an "ikavski" dialect? Or why they even have a Catholic background in the first place?

Man, you Serbs are the kings of propaganda. I'll give you that.

Hvala bogu sto nisam srbin.
(Danilo, 28 May 2012 17:41)
===============================

I agree, but then what are you doing in Serbia?
Why didn't you set your shop up in Croatia?
Seriously, how can you live in a country full of people you hate?

Why would I set up in Croatia, Peggy? What's with this strange binary thinking: if not Serbia, then Croatia.

I've already explained myself why I'm in Serbia. I'm taking advantage of the only advantage Serbia has - low wages. Wages in Croatia are too high. Same thing with India.

Thanks for your concern, though. I try to get out of this dump as often as I can. Overall, I'm probably less in Serbia than I am outside of Serbia.

Thanks again for your concern.


Once again, since you're making me repeat myself, I'll repeat that it amuses me to contemplate that I do more concrete good in Serbia (with the several people I employ) every month than you'll do in your entire life.

That makes me smile.

None of this has any bearing, however, on my original point.

How ugly is the face of nationalism in the Balkans. This poor guy in the video probably has no idea of it's the Serbian thought-police or the Croatian thought-police visiting and interrogating him as to his ethnicity.

poor guys probably had the Croatian identity-police visiting him just a few days before.

There is no difference between Croatian and Serbian nationalism in this respect. They both feel entitled and empowered to tell other people what their identity is or isn't. You see this on this board all the time.