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Saturday, 05.05.2012.

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Albanians in south hold protest over arrests

The situation in the southern Serbian town of Bujanovac is tense after the arrest of ethnic Albanians suspected of war crimes during 2001.

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Johny

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

-- This is not the first time Serbia has done what you suggested above. You can stop acting surprised. Just to name a few, Albin Kurti, Ukshin Hoti. One died at the hands of your kangaroo court system, the other did quite some time. Not much has changed in Serbia. Even the faces of those in high positions are about the same.


Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

-- We can't overlook them being arrested during elections. That was the main reason they were arrested, just so that Dacic would have a chance. The second part of your answer; you're falling in your xenophobic trap again. None of these cases should be conducted in Serbia or Kosova for at least another 2 decades. The bias is still too much towards the other ethnicity. As you can see even the leaders, those who are supposed to have cool heads, arrest members of the other ethnicity for political reasons. If I had my way, I'd create an international court system just for Kosova and Serbia that would take the case automatically as soon as a person of the other ethnicity is arrested. That is the only chance of a fair trial. The way of thinking both in Serbia and Kosova is too poisoned now to guarantee fair trials to Albanians and Serbs.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us.

-- I gave you the answer above. If you're indeed quite satisfied with the status quo and it's objectivity then you have no right to complain about Serbs arrested in Kosova. Especially since international judges and prosecutors are part of the justice system. So either you're ok with what's going on or you're not. You can't complain about bias towards the Serb and maintain that there's no bias towards Albanians especially when such arrests are made to elect someone into a high official position. Maybe you can, cuz you're doing just that but then again this wouldn't be surprising as you're not the only Serb with that thought process. Look at this forum.

Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 6 May 2012 00:27)

-- You are welcome. Especially since answers such as these are not xenophobic at all. The crux of the problem is that with the way the minds are poisoned with hardcore nationalism neither Serbs nor Albanian can find each others to be at fault, because there is a total lack of impartiallity and objectivity between our ethnicities towards each other. That is why for another 2 decades we need outsiders to be the impartial, objective justice system.

Peace

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
(Peggy, 6 May 2012 03:06)

That's what I thought, but Serbia disagrees because it says that most Kosovo inhabitans are not eligible to vote in Serbia; so Kosovo can't be Serbia.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=05&nav_id=80106

I know dear that "Kosovo is Serbia" with words; but it's the actions that determine the reality, not the words. But, hey, if all you need to be happy is to say "Kosovo is Serbia" in words and not in reality, I don't think anybody would have an issue with that.

to A. Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

I am not in war with Albanians - there so few around here, luckily - but were there more, then we would stop their islamo-fashist disruptive activities at once! - As by the way with all followers of that blood-thirsty cult. Rremember Serbian Army - all what glorious "Illyrians" were able to do was to cry loud and beg for help...even Albanian Army (that being the breach of the UN Charter) did not match the Serbs...

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

sorry pal, already back in 2004 most of KiM young jihadists did not understand a word of Serbian...but even knowledge of Serbian would not help being eventually crushed.

no non-sense pls

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!
(icj1)

Dacic is a Kosovo Serb.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region
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Hey silly, why don't you go to CG and tell them they are "Yllirian" and see how many beatings you get.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)
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And so you should have learned Serbian because you live in Serbia.
Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
Naturally, the reason you learned Serbian is for the reason you stated but living in a country and only learning that language for the wrong reason shows exactly what you people are all about.

tom

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39) well first off they arrested albanian terrorists so deal with it and second who have albanians ever defeated hmm nobody you lost to turks and converted almost your entire little nation. you were orthodox before that and next the germans defeated you with ease and the italians and last but not least the serbs defeated you fatster than any of them besides the turks and as you know in the preshovo valley it took the serbs 2 weeks and only 500 cops that beat you and yet the serbs gave you a chance since you had 5 thousand lol and in kosovo,serbia well we know what happened there again the serbs won but the entire world had to come and save you there, albanians had nothing to do with it and yet only 10,000 serbs fought 100,000 albanians + 10,000 mujahadeen fighters lol and the serbs beat you...

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us. Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)

nato new albanian treaty organization

pre 11 godina

The proof is in the pudding. Arresting people and convicting them are two entirely different things. These guys will be set free just like the rest of the Albanians that were arrested for supposed "war crimes" in the past few years. One positive thing i can get out of this is th fact that many Albanians have been arrested for war crimes before but none convicted successfully. I guess there is a part of the Serbian justice system that is working. However, these baseless arrests need to stop or at least have overwhelming evidence. Without the evidence it just exposes the prosecutions office for what it is....a clown parade.

real

pre 11 godina

Seeing these actions , one must be blind or stupid to not see that these actions by ivica dacic are just done prior to elections to gain some popularity as he understands that competing against tadic and nikolic is "Mission impossible" , it`s just funny to see that some albanians who have been living on that region during all their life even 12 years after the war finished are being accused for some war crimes , I wonder why didn`t the serbian police arrest them sometime before but just 1 day before election or after kosovo police arrested some serbians with election banners...smells more like revenge than "putting justice for war crimes done"

What the Hell is a Yllirian???

pre 11 godina

Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.
(Bledi, 5 May 2012 18:06)

You better believe it. If every country in the Balkans had their way, you get everything you've got coming to you. The only question is who would want to be the first to give it to you, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, or Greece? If the rest of Europe had their way, they'd happily sit back and watch the fun.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

f the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.
(Another J S, 5 May 2012 11:51)

Don't delude yourself into thinking the Kumanovo Agreement will be scraped under any circumstances, especially to aid a Serb party to get elected.
It does not really matter who wins the Serb elections, all parties have no choice but to follow the long path to the EU. Serbia has no alternative, Russian or Chinese aid is too little too late. The Russians already have the oil refineries in Nis and Serbia was cheated out of their true value. When are the Serbs going to learn they are being used by Russia. Where was Russia when Serbia was bombed for 78 days, not even a peep of protest for their Slavic Orthodox brothers.

icj1

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!

icj1

pre 11 godina

Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.
(MikeC, 5 May 2012 12:54)

Not sure I got your logic or lack thereof. If somebody is a war criminal, it should be arrested, regardless of whether they know or not what country they are in.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.

you will remember

pre 11 godina

next time you IVICA- when you come too america. dont forget too bring you'r special forces (XHANDARMERIA) with you. we like too have a coffee same place in bronx zoo, you now what i mean...you potato head...

Johny

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist?

--A few things here. These countries have not been at war with Albanians so there is no bias towards Albanians. Also, none of these countries need to arrest a few Albanians during elections time so that they can win votes. This alone indicates that we're dealing with a cangaroo justice system. This is monkey business. There is zero chance that any Serb connected with the arrest or even the court case of any Albanian has an unbiased opinion towards what it means to be Albanian so impartiality is not a luxury but an impossibility. ( take a look at this forum, this is your average Serb). There would be no problem of a fair trial in USA and Germany. Last, we're dealing with an angry, bitter, impoverished, Balkan country such as as Serbia, whose courts and justice system is filled with right Singh ultranationalists. Expecting justice for Albanians in this country is equal to holding North Korea as the pillar of Democracy in the world. Nikolic described the justice system in Serbia the best way possible a couple of days ago; and he was talking about the unfair treatment of the Serbs by a Serb justice system. One doesn't even need to imagine being Albanian inside an inquisition court system where everyone is out to crucify you.


I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 5 May 2012 18:50)

-- Germans or Smericans carrying out an arrest is not racist but this statement of yours is xenophobic. Seing that you see yourself as fair minded and come up with xenophobic statements such as the above, and that people holding views such as yourself hold high positions in the Serb justice system then it is clear why there is a problem. Let's not even talk about the ultranationalist ultra religious that hold such positions.

to bridge

pre 11 godina

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.
(Bridge, 5 May 2012 16:14)

Sorry dude, do not understand Serbian either, just some phrases...however, even without understanding any word the page you refer to still seems some kind of islamo-fashists propaganda, what in exYU first started in Bosnia, continued in KiM and FYROM...

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist? I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)

Bledi

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region.We are in our own land and did not come here like you from the Carpats.I thought Vojvodina is next to leave Serbia but looks like Albanians are more advanced in that matter.Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.The more you Serbs behave like criminals the faster you will end up without a country.

ben

pre 11 godina

Protest????

this only shows hoe weak we Albanians are.

Serbs in north would have set road blocks, armed themselves and asked from their big borhter and true friend Russia to ask for urgent meeting of the UN SC.

We can't do non of that and even less persuade our frinds(???) to internationalise these last attacks and agression of Serbia towards Albanians by asking session of UN SC or OSCE.

tom

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!
(Luka, 5 May 2012 15:12) and who will seperate ,preshovov valley have only 30,000 albanians and declining and serb are majority everywhere there but preshovo and thats changing and who else sandzak well its not majority bosniak in most its serbian and in 1 city they have a slight majority and thats changing and the final one vojvodina its 80% serb population .so wheres the seperation luka the albanian... all the albanians will be arrested in the region for terrorism and war crimes its happened in macedonia with 20 and looking for more and in serbia and next in greece because of threats...

Bridge

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.

to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?

Luka

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!

CG

pre 11 godina

Every Albanian in South Serbia that did warcrimes,and even only hurt one Serbian cat in 2001,will be catched and imprisoned,no Albanian whining and moaning will change that!

The true face of Albanians was shown yesterday,when they protested against the arrest of the murderers of 5 young ethnic Macedonians by the Macedonian authorithies screaming and shouting "Allahau Akbar" and bind together Albanian flags with Saudi and Al Qaeda flags...

We must crack down much harder on them,no mercy for Albanian Islamic terrorists!

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20932/45/

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Hunt down these terrorist!

Radomir (Uros) KASALOVIC
Dusan (Dragoljub) JOVANOVIC
Slobodan (Blagoje) VUCINIC
Milovan (Dragutin) VLASKOVIC
Radovan (Zoran) RADIC
Ratomir (Radun) Bozovic
Branislav Rakic

For more info go to
http://www.kosovopolice.com/?page=1,9

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I read that there are a lot of arrests of Kosovo Serbs by Albanian police these days. It started before these arrests in central Serbia.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

As long as serbian authorities arrest suspected warcriminals of serbian ethnicity its ok. But when suspected albanian warcriminals are arrested by serbs then its a provocation and all hell breaks loose.
Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.

snapper

pre 11 godina

Its quite simple a war criminal is a war criminal be it Albianian, Croation, Bosnian or Serbian. All sides had them and its time that all saw justice. The guilty ones know who they are.
People need to stop blaming the other side and the criminals need to be exposed as they do not represnt any of the ethhicities in the balkans.

EA

pre 11 godina

And the NATO Secretary General was calling for restraint....let the Serbs beat the Albanians and again Albanians to restrain themselves...Nice one! Thank you...BUT not for very long...hit the Serbian regime where it hurts most!

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Human Rights Board President Svetislav Veličković believes that the operation is long overdue and that there are many reasons why it was organized now.

“The arrests could have been made much sooner because the arrested men have been known to the police for a long time,” he pointed out.
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That's exactly what I thought.

Another J S

pre 11 godina

It looks like these suspects were known to the Authorities for a long time, but their arrests were delayed, because there is campaign silence, and this would distract Voters attention away from the Government Dismal Economic Record.

The accused will be given a fair trial, but it should have been done earlier, and not used for Political Purposes, and if this is all the Government has to recommend themselves on then they fail that test too.

The Voters of Serbia need to understand that Justice Delayed in this matter is Justice Denied, and Dacic along with Tadic are accomplices in the War Crimes because he delayed their arrests.

His War Crime against the Serbian People is to use this situation as smoke and mirrors to Deny the Justice of a Proper and Honest Election Campaign, where Voters are not Deliberately Misled by Style over Substance, and so that they can get the best Government for Serbia.

If the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.

Harmless

pre 11 godina

If Kosovo follows the same logic, it will have to arrest some 15 000 Serbs in Kosovo.

I think it is about time Kosovo and the international community shows Serbia and Milosevic's reincarnation that arresting innocent people for political purposes is not acceptable. This behavior by the Serbian state shows that why Kosovo deserved independence and why Albanians will NEVER, NEVER again accept to be ruled by Serbs. This behavior also shows who Serbs really are when it comes to Albanians.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Aww poor baby can't even walk tall because he is aware of the beating he faces for causing terrorism against Serbians.

That terrorist scum bag is going to get exactly what he deserves and the best thing of all? All you trolls know it ;)

snapper

pre 11 godina

Its quite simple a war criminal is a war criminal be it Albianian, Croation, Bosnian or Serbian. All sides had them and its time that all saw justice. The guilty ones know who they are.
People need to stop blaming the other side and the criminals need to be exposed as they do not represnt any of the ethhicities in the balkans.

Harmless

pre 11 godina

If Kosovo follows the same logic, it will have to arrest some 15 000 Serbs in Kosovo.

I think it is about time Kosovo and the international community shows Serbia and Milosevic's reincarnation that arresting innocent people for political purposes is not acceptable. This behavior by the Serbian state shows that why Kosovo deserved independence and why Albanians will NEVER, NEVER again accept to be ruled by Serbs. This behavior also shows who Serbs really are when it comes to Albanians.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

As long as serbian authorities arrest suspected warcriminals of serbian ethnicity its ok. But when suspected albanian warcriminals are arrested by serbs then its a provocation and all hell breaks loose.
Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Aww poor baby can't even walk tall because he is aware of the beating he faces for causing terrorism against Serbians.

That terrorist scum bag is going to get exactly what he deserves and the best thing of all? All you trolls know it ;)

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Human Rights Board President Svetislav Veličković believes that the operation is long overdue and that there are many reasons why it was organized now.

“The arrests could have been made much sooner because the arrested men have been known to the police for a long time,” he pointed out.
------------------
That's exactly what I thought.

EA

pre 11 godina

And the NATO Secretary General was calling for restraint....let the Serbs beat the Albanians and again Albanians to restrain themselves...Nice one! Thank you...BUT not for very long...hit the Serbian regime where it hurts most!

CG

pre 11 godina

Every Albanian in South Serbia that did warcrimes,and even only hurt one Serbian cat in 2001,will be catched and imprisoned,no Albanian whining and moaning will change that!

The true face of Albanians was shown yesterday,when they protested against the arrest of the murderers of 5 young ethnic Macedonians by the Macedonian authorithies screaming and shouting "Allahau Akbar" and bind together Albanian flags with Saudi and Al Qaeda flags...

We must crack down much harder on them,no mercy for Albanian Islamic terrorists!

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20932/45/

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I read that there are a lot of arrests of Kosovo Serbs by Albanian police these days. It started before these arrests in central Serbia.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Hunt down these terrorist!

Radomir (Uros) KASALOVIC
Dusan (Dragoljub) JOVANOVIC
Slobodan (Blagoje) VUCINIC
Milovan (Dragutin) VLASKOVIC
Radovan (Zoran) RADIC
Ratomir (Radun) Bozovic
Branislav Rakic

For more info go to
http://www.kosovopolice.com/?page=1,9

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist? I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)

Luka

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!

Another J S

pre 11 godina

It looks like these suspects were known to the Authorities for a long time, but their arrests were delayed, because there is campaign silence, and this would distract Voters attention away from the Government Dismal Economic Record.

The accused will be given a fair trial, but it should have been done earlier, and not used for Political Purposes, and if this is all the Government has to recommend themselves on then they fail that test too.

The Voters of Serbia need to understand that Justice Delayed in this matter is Justice Denied, and Dacic along with Tadic are accomplices in the War Crimes because he delayed their arrests.

His War Crime against the Serbian People is to use this situation as smoke and mirrors to Deny the Justice of a Proper and Honest Election Campaign, where Voters are not Deliberately Misled by Style over Substance, and so that they can get the best Government for Serbia.

If the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.

to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?

Bledi

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region.We are in our own land and did not come here like you from the Carpats.I thought Vojvodina is next to leave Serbia but looks like Albanians are more advanced in that matter.Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.The more you Serbs behave like criminals the faster you will end up without a country.

What the Hell is a Yllirian???

pre 11 godina

Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.
(Bledi, 5 May 2012 18:06)

You better believe it. If every country in the Balkans had their way, you get everything you've got coming to you. The only question is who would want to be the first to give it to you, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, or Greece? If the rest of Europe had their way, they'd happily sit back and watch the fun.

tom

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!
(Luka, 5 May 2012 15:12) and who will seperate ,preshovov valley have only 30,000 albanians and declining and serb are majority everywhere there but preshovo and thats changing and who else sandzak well its not majority bosniak in most its serbian and in 1 city they have a slight majority and thats changing and the final one vojvodina its 80% serb population .so wheres the seperation luka the albanian... all the albanians will be arrested in the region for terrorism and war crimes its happened in macedonia with 20 and looking for more and in serbia and next in greece because of threats...

Bridge

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.

real

pre 11 godina

Seeing these actions , one must be blind or stupid to not see that these actions by ivica dacic are just done prior to elections to gain some popularity as he understands that competing against tadic and nikolic is "Mission impossible" , it`s just funny to see that some albanians who have been living on that region during all their life even 12 years after the war finished are being accused for some war crimes , I wonder why didn`t the serbian police arrest them sometime before but just 1 day before election or after kosovo police arrested some serbians with election banners...smells more like revenge than "putting justice for war crimes done"

to bridge

pre 11 godina

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.
(Bridge, 5 May 2012 16:14)

Sorry dude, do not understand Serbian either, just some phrases...however, even without understanding any word the page you refer to still seems some kind of islamo-fashists propaganda, what in exYU first started in Bosnia, continued in KiM and FYROM...

icj1

pre 11 godina

Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.
(MikeC, 5 May 2012 12:54)

Not sure I got your logic or lack thereof. If somebody is a war criminal, it should be arrested, regardless of whether they know or not what country they are in.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

f the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.
(Another J S, 5 May 2012 11:51)

Don't delude yourself into thinking the Kumanovo Agreement will be scraped under any circumstances, especially to aid a Serb party to get elected.
It does not really matter who wins the Serb elections, all parties have no choice but to follow the long path to the EU. Serbia has no alternative, Russian or Chinese aid is too little too late. The Russians already have the oil refineries in Nis and Serbia was cheated out of their true value. When are the Serbs going to learn they are being used by Russia. Where was Russia when Serbia was bombed for 78 days, not even a peep of protest for their Slavic Orthodox brothers.

ben

pre 11 godina

Protest????

this only shows hoe weak we Albanians are.

Serbs in north would have set road blocks, armed themselves and asked from their big borhter and true friend Russia to ask for urgent meeting of the UN SC.

We can't do non of that and even less persuade our frinds(???) to internationalise these last attacks and agression of Serbia towards Albanians by asking session of UN SC or OSCE.

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

sorry pal, already back in 2004 most of KiM young jihadists did not understand a word of Serbian...but even knowledge of Serbian would not help being eventually crushed.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
(Peggy, 6 May 2012 03:06)

That's what I thought, but Serbia disagrees because it says that most Kosovo inhabitans are not eligible to vote in Serbia; so Kosovo can't be Serbia.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=05&nav_id=80106

I know dear that "Kosovo is Serbia" with words; but it's the actions that determine the reality, not the words. But, hey, if all you need to be happy is to say "Kosovo is Serbia" in words and not in reality, I don't think anybody would have an issue with that.

you will remember

pre 11 godina

next time you IVICA- when you come too america. dont forget too bring you'r special forces (XHANDARMERIA) with you. we like too have a coffee same place in bronx zoo, you now what i mean...you potato head...

Peggy

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)
=============================

And so you should have learned Serbian because you live in Serbia.
Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
Naturally, the reason you learned Serbian is for the reason you stated but living in a country and only learning that language for the wrong reason shows exactly what you people are all about.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region
===========================

Hey silly, why don't you go to CG and tell them they are "Yllirian" and see how many beatings you get.

Johny

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

-- This is not the first time Serbia has done what you suggested above. You can stop acting surprised. Just to name a few, Albin Kurti, Ukshin Hoti. One died at the hands of your kangaroo court system, the other did quite some time. Not much has changed in Serbia. Even the faces of those in high positions are about the same.


Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

-- We can't overlook them being arrested during elections. That was the main reason they were arrested, just so that Dacic would have a chance. The second part of your answer; you're falling in your xenophobic trap again. None of these cases should be conducted in Serbia or Kosova for at least another 2 decades. The bias is still too much towards the other ethnicity. As you can see even the leaders, those who are supposed to have cool heads, arrest members of the other ethnicity for political reasons. If I had my way, I'd create an international court system just for Kosova and Serbia that would take the case automatically as soon as a person of the other ethnicity is arrested. That is the only chance of a fair trial. The way of thinking both in Serbia and Kosova is too poisoned now to guarantee fair trials to Albanians and Serbs.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us.

-- I gave you the answer above. If you're indeed quite satisfied with the status quo and it's objectivity then you have no right to complain about Serbs arrested in Kosova. Especially since international judges and prosecutors are part of the justice system. So either you're ok with what's going on or you're not. You can't complain about bias towards the Serb and maintain that there's no bias towards Albanians especially when such arrests are made to elect someone into a high official position. Maybe you can, cuz you're doing just that but then again this wouldn't be surprising as you're not the only Serb with that thought process. Look at this forum.

Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 6 May 2012 00:27)

-- You are welcome. Especially since answers such as these are not xenophobic at all. The crux of the problem is that with the way the minds are poisoned with hardcore nationalism neither Serbs nor Albanian can find each others to be at fault, because there is a total lack of impartiallity and objectivity between our ethnicities towards each other. That is why for another 2 decades we need outsiders to be the impartial, objective justice system.

Peace

Johny

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist?

--A few things here. These countries have not been at war with Albanians so there is no bias towards Albanians. Also, none of these countries need to arrest a few Albanians during elections time so that they can win votes. This alone indicates that we're dealing with a cangaroo justice system. This is monkey business. There is zero chance that any Serb connected with the arrest or even the court case of any Albanian has an unbiased opinion towards what it means to be Albanian so impartiality is not a luxury but an impossibility. ( take a look at this forum, this is your average Serb). There would be no problem of a fair trial in USA and Germany. Last, we're dealing with an angry, bitter, impoverished, Balkan country such as as Serbia, whose courts and justice system is filled with right Singh ultranationalists. Expecting justice for Albanians in this country is equal to holding North Korea as the pillar of Democracy in the world. Nikolic described the justice system in Serbia the best way possible a couple of days ago; and he was talking about the unfair treatment of the Serbs by a Serb justice system. One doesn't even need to imagine being Albanian inside an inquisition court system where everyone is out to crucify you.


I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 5 May 2012 18:50)

-- Germans or Smericans carrying out an arrest is not racist but this statement of yours is xenophobic. Seing that you see yourself as fair minded and come up with xenophobic statements such as the above, and that people holding views such as yourself hold high positions in the Serb justice system then it is clear why there is a problem. Let's not even talk about the ultranationalist ultra religious that hold such positions.

icj1

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!

to A. Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

I am not in war with Albanians - there so few around here, luckily - but were there more, then we would stop their islamo-fashist disruptive activities at once! - As by the way with all followers of that blood-thirsty cult. Rremember Serbian Army - all what glorious "Illyrians" were able to do was to cry loud and beg for help...even Albanian Army (that being the breach of the UN Charter) did not match the Serbs...

no non-sense pls

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!
(icj1)

Dacic is a Kosovo Serb.

nato new albanian treaty organization

pre 11 godina

The proof is in the pudding. Arresting people and convicting them are two entirely different things. These guys will be set free just like the rest of the Albanians that were arrested for supposed "war crimes" in the past few years. One positive thing i can get out of this is th fact that many Albanians have been arrested for war crimes before but none convicted successfully. I guess there is a part of the Serbian justice system that is working. However, these baseless arrests need to stop or at least have overwhelming evidence. Without the evidence it just exposes the prosecutions office for what it is....a clown parade.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us. Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)

tom

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39) well first off they arrested albanian terrorists so deal with it and second who have albanians ever defeated hmm nobody you lost to turks and converted almost your entire little nation. you were orthodox before that and next the germans defeated you with ease and the italians and last but not least the serbs defeated you fatster than any of them besides the turks and as you know in the preshovo valley it took the serbs 2 weeks and only 500 cops that beat you and yet the serbs gave you a chance since you had 5 thousand lol and in kosovo,serbia well we know what happened there again the serbs won but the entire world had to come and save you there, albanians had nothing to do with it and yet only 10,000 serbs fought 100,000 albanians + 10,000 mujahadeen fighters lol and the serbs beat you...

Harmless

pre 11 godina

If Kosovo follows the same logic, it will have to arrest some 15 000 Serbs in Kosovo.

I think it is about time Kosovo and the international community shows Serbia and Milosevic's reincarnation that arresting innocent people for political purposes is not acceptable. This behavior by the Serbian state shows that why Kosovo deserved independence and why Albanians will NEVER, NEVER again accept to be ruled by Serbs. This behavior also shows who Serbs really are when it comes to Albanians.

EA

pre 11 godina

And the NATO Secretary General was calling for restraint....let the Serbs beat the Albanians and again Albanians to restrain themselves...Nice one! Thank you...BUT not for very long...hit the Serbian regime where it hurts most!

Bridge

pre 11 godina

Hunt down these terrorist!

Radomir (Uros) KASALOVIC
Dusan (Dragoljub) JOVANOVIC
Slobodan (Blagoje) VUCINIC
Milovan (Dragutin) VLASKOVIC
Radovan (Zoran) RADIC
Ratomir (Radun) Bozovic
Branislav Rakic

For more info go to
http://www.kosovopolice.com/?page=1,9

CG

pre 11 godina

Every Albanian in South Serbia that did warcrimes,and even only hurt one Serbian cat in 2001,will be catched and imprisoned,no Albanian whining and moaning will change that!

The true face of Albanians was shown yesterday,when they protested against the arrest of the murderers of 5 young ethnic Macedonians by the Macedonian authorithies screaming and shouting "Allahau Akbar" and bind together Albanian flags with Saudi and Al Qaeda flags...

We must crack down much harder on them,no mercy for Albanian Islamic terrorists!

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20932/45/

MikeC

pre 11 godina

As long as serbian authorities arrest suspected warcriminals of serbian ethnicity its ok. But when suspected albanian warcriminals are arrested by serbs then its a provocation and all hell breaks loose.
Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.

trizo

pre 11 godina

Aww poor baby can't even walk tall because he is aware of the beating he faces for causing terrorism against Serbians.

That terrorist scum bag is going to get exactly what he deserves and the best thing of all? All you trolls know it ;)

Luka

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!

Bledi

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region.We are in our own land and did not come here like you from the Carpats.I thought Vojvodina is next to leave Serbia but looks like Albanians are more advanced in that matter.Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.The more you Serbs behave like criminals the faster you will end up without a country.

Agim Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.

ben

pre 11 godina

Protest????

this only shows hoe weak we Albanians are.

Serbs in north would have set road blocks, armed themselves and asked from their big borhter and true friend Russia to ask for urgent meeting of the UN SC.

We can't do non of that and even less persuade our frinds(???) to internationalise these last attacks and agression of Serbia towards Albanians by asking session of UN SC or OSCE.

you will remember

pre 11 godina

next time you IVICA- when you come too america. dont forget too bring you'r special forces (XHANDARMERIA) with you. we like too have a coffee same place in bronx zoo, you now what i mean...you potato head...

to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist? I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

f the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.
(Another J S, 5 May 2012 11:51)

Don't delude yourself into thinking the Kumanovo Agreement will be scraped under any circumstances, especially to aid a Serb party to get elected.
It does not really matter who wins the Serb elections, all parties have no choice but to follow the long path to the EU. Serbia has no alternative, Russian or Chinese aid is too little too late. The Russians already have the oil refineries in Nis and Serbia was cheated out of their true value. When are the Serbs going to learn they are being used by Russia. Where was Russia when Serbia was bombed for 78 days, not even a peep of protest for their Slavic Orthodox brothers.

Another J S

pre 11 godina

It looks like these suspects were known to the Authorities for a long time, but their arrests were delayed, because there is campaign silence, and this would distract Voters attention away from the Government Dismal Economic Record.

The accused will be given a fair trial, but it should have been done earlier, and not used for Political Purposes, and if this is all the Government has to recommend themselves on then they fail that test too.

The Voters of Serbia need to understand that Justice Delayed in this matter is Justice Denied, and Dacic along with Tadic are accomplices in the War Crimes because he delayed their arrests.

His War Crime against the Serbian People is to use this situation as smoke and mirrors to Deny the Justice of a Proper and Honest Election Campaign, where Voters are not Deliberately Misled by Style over Substance, and so that they can get the best Government for Serbia.

If the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election, then the American led West may help Tadic win in the Second Round of Voting by scrapping the Kumanovo Agreement, but only if the SRS, the DSS, and the SNS receive the Majority of Parliamentary Seats at the Election.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I read that there are a lot of arrests of Kosovo Serbs by Albanian police these days. It started before these arrests in central Serbia.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Personally I think that Serbia should have done this long ago. Presevo is crawling with albanian warcriminals. Let them know what country they are in.
(MikeC, 5 May 2012 12:54)

Not sure I got your logic or lack thereof. If somebody is a war criminal, it should be arrested, regardless of whether they know or not what country they are in.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

Human Rights Board President Svetislav Veličković believes that the operation is long overdue and that there are many reasons why it was organized now.

“The arrests could have been made much sooner because the arrested men have been known to the police for a long time,” he pointed out.
------------------
That's exactly what I thought.

tom

pre 11 godina

Looks like Serbia is acting like in 90's give them 5 years few parts of Serbia will leave Serbian territories, none wants to live under fear and pressure,Potato head Dacic, sooner or later will go before ,EU Courts for actions that has done,you are looking to start another war,against your fellow citizens,circumstances are big,,think of peace and act to preserve it,your image is destroyed in face of earth,Serbian people should vote for their future..stop electing racist individuals!stop using scare tactics.They don't work anymore!!!
(Luka, 5 May 2012 15:12) and who will seperate ,preshovov valley have only 30,000 albanians and declining and serb are majority everywhere there but preshovo and thats changing and who else sandzak well its not majority bosniak in most its serbian and in 1 city they have a slight majority and thats changing and the final one vojvodina its 80% serb population .so wheres the seperation luka the albanian... all the albanians will be arrested in the region for terrorism and war crimes its happened in macedonia with 20 and looking for more and in serbia and next in greece because of threats...

Johny

pre 11 godina

Hmm, I wonder if arresting Albanian war criminals makes anyone a racist, or is this just when Serbs do it? If German KFOR soldiers in Kosovo arrest some KLA thug does that make them racist? If American GIs stop an Albanian from shooting up one of their bases does that make them racist?

--A few things here. These countries have not been at war with Albanians so there is no bias towards Albanians. Also, none of these countries need to arrest a few Albanians during elections time so that they can win votes. This alone indicates that we're dealing with a cangaroo justice system. This is monkey business. There is zero chance that any Serb connected with the arrest or even the court case of any Albanian has an unbiased opinion towards what it means to be Albanian so impartiality is not a luxury but an impossibility. ( take a look at this forum, this is your average Serb). There would be no problem of a fair trial in USA and Germany. Last, we're dealing with an angry, bitter, impoverished, Balkan country such as as Serbia, whose courts and justice system is filled with right Singh ultranationalists. Expecting justice for Albanians in this country is equal to holding North Korea as the pillar of Democracy in the world. Nikolic described the justice system in Serbia the best way possible a couple of days ago; and he was talking about the unfair treatment of the Serbs by a Serb justice system. One doesn't even need to imagine being Albanian inside an inquisition court system where everyone is out to crucify you.


I'd ask the Albanian diaspora on this site for an educated explanation, but knowing the Albanian diaspora's limited thinking I'd only be disappointed in their excuse :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 5 May 2012 18:50)

-- Germans or Smericans carrying out an arrest is not racist but this statement of yours is xenophobic. Seing that you see yourself as fair minded and come up with xenophobic statements such as the above, and that people holding views such as yourself hold high positions in the Serb justice system then it is clear why there is a problem. Let's not even talk about the ultranationalist ultra religious that hold such positions.

icj1

pre 11 godina

Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
(Peggy, 6 May 2012 03:06)

That's what I thought, but Serbia disagrees because it says that most Kosovo inhabitans are not eligible to vote in Serbia; so Kosovo can't be Serbia.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=05&nav_id=80106

I know dear that "Kosovo is Serbia" with words; but it's the actions that determine the reality, not the words. But, hey, if all you need to be happy is to say "Kosovo is Serbia" in words and not in reality, I don't think anybody would have an issue with that.

snapper

pre 11 godina

Its quite simple a war criminal is a war criminal be it Albianian, Croation, Bosnian or Serbian. All sides had them and its time that all saw justice. The guilty ones know who they are.
People need to stop blaming the other side and the criminals need to be exposed as they do not represnt any of the ethhicities in the balkans.

Bridge

pre 11 godina

the link you have referred to is some why either in Turkish or Arabic what normal Europeans do not understand, besides it seems to be a kind of Salafist propaganda page?
(to Bridge, 5 May 2012 14:10, 5 May 2012 15:01)

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.

icj1

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!

exKFOR

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

sorry pal, already back in 2004 most of KiM young jihadists did not understand a word of Serbian...but even knowledge of Serbian would not help being eventually crushed.

real

pre 11 godina

Seeing these actions , one must be blind or stupid to not see that these actions by ivica dacic are just done prior to elections to gain some popularity as he understands that competing against tadic and nikolic is "Mission impossible" , it`s just funny to see that some albanians who have been living on that region during all their life even 12 years after the war finished are being accused for some war crimes , I wonder why didn`t the serbian police arrest them sometime before but just 1 day before election or after kosovo police arrested some serbians with election banners...smells more like revenge than "putting justice for war crimes done"

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us. Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)

tom

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39) well first off they arrested albanian terrorists so deal with it and second who have albanians ever defeated hmm nobody you lost to turks and converted almost your entire little nation. you were orthodox before that and next the germans defeated you with ease and the italians and last but not least the serbs defeated you fatster than any of them besides the turks and as you know in the preshovo valley it took the serbs 2 weeks and only 500 cops that beat you and yet the serbs gave you a chance since you had 5 thousand lol and in kosovo,serbia well we know what happened there again the serbs won but the entire world had to come and save you there, albanians had nothing to do with it and yet only 10,000 serbs fought 100,000 albanians + 10,000 mujahadeen fighters lol and the serbs beat you...

Peggy

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)
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And so you should have learned Serbian because you live in Serbia.
Kosovo always was and always will be Serbia.
Naturally, the reason you learned Serbian is for the reason you stated but living in a country and only learning that language for the wrong reason shows exactly what you people are all about.

to A. Kelmendi

pre 11 godina

I am surprised that you have not managed to learn the language of your enemy, which is Albanian. Most of Albanians have learned their enemy's(Serbian) language, since it comes handy to defeat your enemy.
(Agim Kelmendi, 5 May 2012 20:39)

I am not in war with Albanians - there so few around here, luckily - but were there more, then we would stop their islamo-fashist disruptive activities at once! - As by the way with all followers of that blood-thirsty cult. Rremember Serbian Army - all what glorious "Illyrians" were able to do was to cry loud and beg for help...even Albanian Army (that being the breach of the UN Charter) did not match the Serbs...

to bridge

pre 11 godina

It's not Arabic or Turkish. If you don't understand albanian you can click " srpski ".
P.s Open your eyes.
(Bridge, 5 May 2012 16:14)

Sorry dude, do not understand Serbian either, just some phrases...however, even without understanding any word the page you refer to still seems some kind of islamo-fashists propaganda, what in exYU first started in Bosnia, continued in KiM and FYROM...

What the Hell is a Yllirian???

pre 11 godina

Albanians deserve to got whats theirs and they will.
(Bledi, 5 May 2012 18:06)

You better believe it. If every country in the Balkans had their way, you get everything you've got coming to you. The only question is who would want to be the first to give it to you, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, or Greece? If the rest of Europe had their way, they'd happily sit back and watch the fun.

Peggy

pre 11 godina

CG,dont be embarrased to declare yourself serbian and hide under proud name of CG.You wish you were CG.Dont steal our CG identity bcs CG are of Yllirian Descent and have nothing to do with your Russian deported to our region
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Hey silly, why don't you go to CG and tell them they are "Yllirian" and see how many beatings you get.

Johny

pre 11 godina

LOL yes Johny that's exactly what it is: just another case of a bunch of poor little Albanians wrongly caught by a quasi clero-fascistic country eager to score some points ahead of an election. In fact, I'll bet you the local MUP decided to just arrest the first 8 Albanians they see because as Albanians they're probably guilty of something. Now they'll be forced to spend the next few years languishing in a Serbian prison on a bunch of trumped up charges. It amazing Serbs are able to get away with the stuff they do, right?

-- This is not the first time Serbia has done what you suggested above. You can stop acting surprised. Just to name a few, Albin Kurti, Ukshin Hoti. One died at the hands of your kangaroo court system, the other did quite some time. Not much has changed in Serbia. Even the faces of those in high positions are about the same.


Now let's get realistic. Let's completely overlook that fact that they were arrested around election time (I'll give you that it looks like a publicity stunt because they could have been arrested months ago) and focus on whether they truly have a criminal past. Are you suggesting because of a Serb bias towards Albanians that this is a kangaroo court, regardless of whether they truly have a criminal past? What about the countless Serbs that have been arrested by Albanians in Kosovo on whatever idiotic charge the Rexhepi wants to throw at them that day like being a "danger to Kosovo's constitutional system" because they were carrying election materials or were delivering mail through the Serbian postal system? You accuse me of xenophobia and you accuse Serbs on this site of being nationalistic yet for whatever reason it never crosses your mind that justice is a joke in Kosovo, Albanian criminals walk free (if they're caught at all) and regular Serbs are arrested at moments notice because, well, they're Serbs so they had to have done something. Try looking at the completely silly comments coming from your own side, particularly the diaspora that love to issue all sorts of impotent threats from their keyboard both here and elsewhere. Not my fault you get angry at the comments from one side but overlook the others.

-- We can't overlook them being arrested during elections. That was the main reason they were arrested, just so that Dacic would have a chance. The second part of your answer; you're falling in your xenophobic trap again. None of these cases should be conducted in Serbia or Kosova for at least another 2 decades. The bias is still too much towards the other ethnicity. As you can see even the leaders, those who are supposed to have cool heads, arrest members of the other ethnicity for political reasons. If I had my way, I'd create an international court system just for Kosova and Serbia that would take the case automatically as soon as a person of the other ethnicity is arrested. That is the only chance of a fair trial. The way of thinking both in Serbia and Kosova is too poisoned now to guarantee fair trials to Albanians and Serbs.

So how about this since you're so keen on ensuring objectivity: let the arrests and arraignments go through. If they're guilty you can apologize for getting all bent out of shape for defending war criminals. Not everyone is as lucky as Limaj. If there's nothing to charge them with you can laugh all you want at Dacic and the rest of us.

-- I gave you the answer above. If you're indeed quite satisfied with the status quo and it's objectivity then you have no right to complain about Serbs arrested in Kosova. Especially since international judges and prosecutors are part of the justice system. So either you're ok with what's going on or you're not. You can't complain about bias towards the Serb and maintain that there's no bias towards Albanians especially when such arrests are made to elect someone into a high official position. Maybe you can, cuz you're doing just that but then again this wouldn't be surprising as you're not the only Serb with that thought process. Look at this forum.

Thanks though for basically giving the autistic answer I was expecting to get. As usual the fault lies with someone other than your own group :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 6 May 2012 00:27)

-- You are welcome. Especially since answers such as these are not xenophobic at all. The crux of the problem is that with the way the minds are poisoned with hardcore nationalism neither Serbs nor Albanian can find each others to be at fault, because there is a total lack of impartiallity and objectivity between our ethnicities towards each other. That is why for another 2 decades we need outsiders to be the impartial, objective justice system.

Peace

no non-sense pls

pre 11 godina

By doing this Ivica Dacic is only making life harder for Kosovo Serbs.
(Avni, 5 May 2012 15:36)

But who told you that Ivica cares about the Kosovo Serbs ?!
(icj1)

Dacic is a Kosovo Serb.

nato new albanian treaty organization

pre 11 godina

The proof is in the pudding. Arresting people and convicting them are two entirely different things. These guys will be set free just like the rest of the Albanians that were arrested for supposed "war crimes" in the past few years. One positive thing i can get out of this is th fact that many Albanians have been arrested for war crimes before but none convicted successfully. I guess there is a part of the Serbian justice system that is working. However, these baseless arrests need to stop or at least have overwhelming evidence. Without the evidence it just exposes the prosecutions office for what it is....a clown parade.