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Tuesday, 17.04.2012.

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Report: Witness survived Macedonia massacre

Some 1,000 people protested in the Macedonian capital of Skopje last night in the wake of the brutal murder of five Macedonian men last week.

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Ataman

pre 12 godina

Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.
(dori tirana, 18 April 2012 08:25)

They say, he was HELLENIC and BARBARIAN. That means: of Greek origin / language / culture - but OUTSIDE from the CITY-STATES like Athen, Sparta, etc: everyone who did not belong to the few selected city-states was considered a "barbarian".

The exact time of Slavic appearance on Balkans is not known. Greek military had accent on phalanx-like tactics, they did employ mercnary archers and these were "Schythians". Were "Schythians" of Slavic or Hunnic origin is not known, maybe something else.

Interesting fact that the Hittite language of Central Anatolia was decyphered with the help of Slavic languages. And even more intersting is to discover, the Hittite cultural / religious heritage is largely Hatti, and Hatti is an agglutinative language (something like Hunnic).

So go figure. However it is widely believed, Alexander the Great had nothing to do with either Slavs or Albanians.

We have a huge crowd of all kind of famous people, you can fill a library wiht books about them, no need to "steal" Alexander the Great from Hellenes, that is not even clever.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.
(Denis, 18 April 2012 07:07)

What about Albanians burning Macedonian flags? what about Albanians chanting racist chants at sporting events, what about Albanians beating up children and old women every day, what about the Albanian graffitti directed against macedonians..

To top it off, Albanians deny the basic right for Macedonians to even live and exist in the Balkans..

Lets cut the rubbish out, Albanians murdered 5 innocent people in the name of racism, next time Albanians burn a Macedonian flag, perhaps the Macedonians should use ur logic and implement the above ten fold..

Keep on playing the victim card...

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Brilliant objectivity there. Serbs who make excuses for Srebrenica are dismissed as extremist, Albanians who write stupid things here are reflective of Albanians as a whole. very very European eh?

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.
(Bassili, 17 April 2012 20:02)

Dear Bassili, you can not respond to a big lie with another big lie. Everybody knows that the first Slav that put foot in Balkan was in 5 century after Christ. This is why the origin of SlavoMacedonian from Alexander the Great is a big lie(only the expensive statue of Alexander the Great in Skopje is Slav). Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.

Denis

pre 12 godina

The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.
(Zoran, 17 April 2012 19:39)

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.

vwp

pre 12 godina

During the bosnian war the greeks sold oil to the albanians who sold it to the serbs. this is our heritage .get the real story before you throw stupid comments. thank you.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

(Klasiku, 17 April 2012 17:52)

Oh really? are you void of reality or sanity? or any other Albanian for that fact..

1000 Serb civillians have been killed since the end of the so called war in 99, and this in the name of ethnic cleansing..

How about the following massacres?

Pudujevo massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_massacre

Panda bar massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bar_Massacre

March 2004 riots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_unrest_in_Kosovo

This is just to name a few, i hope B92 has the courtesty to publish my comment as your comment is really offensive and racist yet published

iliri

pre 12 godina

stinks like udb all over, and it wouldn t be weird that the agent were albanian, udb has penetrated higher ranks, and according the media the premier himself is a serb agent, this masacre would be as devastating our nation as much as it is to fyrom, hope they find the guilty and trial them accordingly

weekelpie

pre 12 godina

'the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians'

Every now and again a true classic is unearthed. The above extract from an earlier comment surely competes for same status?

............. the blinkered views of some folk beggars beliefs.

namatA

pre 12 godina

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.
(Ataman, 17 April 2012 19:01)

Nobody who is sober and/ or sane understands what you mean.

haris

pre 12 godina

you serbs are very very good with the propaganda and manipulate people is this something new in balkan,just keep doing same thing over over agian ist easy just blame the albainans and ist all ok am sick of you all.balkanska ludi bre,thats how the wester contrey say about balkan.Brainwash people

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.



Really! really! really! Only because the UDBA said that and you think so?. When will you people learn to tell the truth?.

Bassili

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Klasiku,

Stop talking about things you don't know. It was albanians that blew up a motel in macedonia while tiying up the motel maanger and employee inside, It was albanians that interrupted a Macedonian wedding and shot and killed the groom. There are still missing macedonian civilians from both the kosovo* and Macedonia wars. Do you suppose it was Turks that came and kidnapped them in order to create ethnic tensions?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that.
(Boris, 17 April 2012 12:46)

If you continue to insist that I am Albanian - better say something nicer to me, like "you mf piece of ***, son of a b**ch", that is OK.

By the way: that so-called "Stalinist Miloshevic press" ( = B92 as our friend Roberto insists - where he is, stuck in his foggy Frisco now?) continues to cut and "unpublish" what I write in response to probably most scandalous comments Internet can bear.

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Oh, I read this nonsense written by Serbian extremists who try to justify the Srebrenica massacre and who consider war criminals 'heroes' often enough.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 17:53)
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The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Now that he found out that he's Alabaman and not Albanian he don't come around as much.
(Bayou la Batre, 17 April 2012 17:36) Let the police do their work and track down the killers we don't need red necks spewing their hates sit back and enjoy the music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzbdY_rPtjw&feature=related .

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Wow, how quick some albo' s here point their fingers at Serbia. And in a later artical an albo terrorist group is threatening to attack Slavs and traitor albo's In Macedonia. Nothing new here.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

LOL from who? roberto? Agim Kelmendi? Or maybe Avni? :)

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Zoran

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians

Klasiku

pre 12 godina

Interesting, why hasn't your site, or any news outlet in Macedonia or Serbia published the reports of the multiple condolence letters sent from the Kosova authorities to the Macedonian authorities? Are you punishing the Jews for Jesus' death?

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

If the Albanians wanted to kill the civilians, they could have killed thousands and thousands, until 1999 in Yugoslavia - but they did not, as they are not the savages that you would like them to be.

All the fabrications against them were carefully orchestrated to portray them as savages, uncivilized, tribal, blood-feud driven individuals. All of this, with one goal - to push them out of Kosovo and Macedonia - the Slavs wanted the land that they lived in, but not them.

Well, you succeeded to some point. About 25% of the Albanians from Kosovo and Macedonia now live abroad. I am one of them. Luckily, your stories and BS won't fly anymore. The world has seen in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who the real savages are!

Sooner or later you will realize and come to terms with the fact that as much as you would like the Albanians to leave, they are not going anywhere. The Albanians will continue to live in those areas, and there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it.

Finally, the perpetrators of this attack will be found, and dealt with properly.

You can spew hate as much as you want here - it's OK, as it's a freedom of speech thing tolerated to some point.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Naser Oric's SUPPOSED massacres?? He doesn't even deny them, he's proud of them.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=232
You're a disgrace (and so is the Hague and the NATO war criminals who support you and people like Oric).

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

This is exactly where I said the killers were hiding the day after the killings. Any more debate that they were not Albanian? They will fit in perfectly fine with their family and friends there that have the same mentality and moral fiber.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)
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Really, you should read the UN report on Srebrenica. Even western officials knew revenge would take place for the massacre of thousands of Serbians by Oric's cowards from within a UN protected safe-haven. Even Izetbegovic allowed this sacrifice as justification for a Bosnian state, with the patriotic Bosnian Muslims having admitted as much also. Why do you think they classify it as genocide? The reason is to remove RS as an entity. They must be so disappointed with this unfinished business. Well, they chose to support the wrong side so it's not surprising.

Also, I can't believe my comments are getting through today. 5 posts yesterday and none showed up.

GRK

pre 12 godina

Dear B92. The makedonian capitol is Thessaloniki not Skopje. And in thessaloniki didnt happened anything. In makedonia didn't happen anything.

2 million key rings please

pre 12 godina

(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 17 April 2012 14:33)

Bulgar of Ohrid, are you sure you have the time to post here? You have promised us two million keyrings, shouldn't you rather earn the necessary funds? 2 million keyrings, 2 million envelopes, 2 million envelopes, won't be cheap...

In case you have already forgotten: "Actually if any Albanian here can claim that there great great great grandfather was Born in Kosovo or Macedonia.. I will buy you an Albanain key ring and send it to you via post"

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres

metrod

pre 12 godina

I don't have a crystal ball or insider information from trusted sources like some of you here but what if, and I mean what if the culprits aren't Albanian but in fact closer to your own kin?
What would your response be?
Will you blame the West again?

I can already see several different conspiracy theories coming out of some of you scholars.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

OMG... I thought that North of the Ibar was the only lawless place in Kosovo...

Me thinks Kosovo/Albanian "Law and order" is another word for ethnic cleansing according to Pristina logic.. so this is what they mean by wanting to implementing Law and order hmmm

Back to reality.. from the word go.. I never ever doubted that the killers were Albanians, besides they have a great track record of such activities..

Kill innocent civilians and hope for a heavy handed response by the military... then cry to the west

As for a previous poster about not wanting to destroy Macedonia in 2001, oh please you guys cant even destroy 40 000 serbs north of the Ibar..

You can kill innocent people but thats about it, to win a war you need support from the west which once again you are trying to muster in Macedonia

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks."
(nikshala, 17 April 2012 13:13)

Nothing to gain for normal people with democratic and European standards. But in a clan based society with archaic rules of blood feud, and where people consider 'revenge' as 'justice' (as we could read several times even here in comments of Albanian posters), I see this as very likely.

edi

pre 12 godina

Everytime I read this website, the same people seem to be all the time on line. Don't you dear "ataman,ari the gold etc..." have a work to do , instead of keep writing some idiot coments about Albanians.
I am sure that those behind the killings in Macedonia are not Albanians because we are not intrested to destroy Macedionia,if we wanted we could have done that in 2001 when there was an offer but we didn't fall for that.
Simply wait and see.... Do not be surprised from the outcome....

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

How stupid of them! Everybody knows Kosovo is a place where the rule of law is established, people are even arrested for 'carrying voter lists', so how can killers try to hide there?

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

that article b92 is quoting from seems nothing more than mere speculation. most likely escaped to kosovo doesn't actually mean anything. by the way, what evidence is there to suggest this was an ethnically motivated crime?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Do you genuinely believe anything you write? So according to you, the UDB agents who carried out the killings, fled the scene, drove over the border into AP KiM, dumped the car in which they were travelling there and then hitched a lift to Pristina.

Next you will be telling us it was the Klingons that did it.

Seriously, given the fact that it was premeditated, organised and the victims randomly chosen suggests that they were targeted on the basis of their ethnicity.

nikshala

pre 12 godina

We were told previously that the victims were killed 'execution' style from close up. Today we have the following statement:

"Jankulovska added that it appeared that the killers were "professionals", and said this was deduced from the fact that "most of the shots they fired hit the victims". "

It doesnt take a 'professional' to shoot someone and hit from close up. It's just and odd fact that jumped out at me.

Something fishy about this case but we will have to wait and see what the outcome is. As far as escape to Kosovo - what facts are there to support this? They have no idea who did this...It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks. It could also be serbian secret service since this plays exactly at the hands of the serbian politicans views of redrawing the borders across Balkans in the hope to get Republik Srpska and north of Kosovo.

Boris

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that. Serbia has enough problems to deal with and the issues on their plate far out way the benefits of your ridiculous accusations. Serbs in general in Serbia are struggling to deal with their internal issues being the economy, employment, health care, European integration to EU and not to speak of Kosovo. To suggest that they would have the fore thought to come up with what you have suggested is giving the Serbian government far too much credit. I say this even though I am a proud Serb. One thing that you have over looked is that Serbian government/ Serbian sercret service is not American CIA, German secret service or Isreali mosad or British mi6. Would be great if Serbian government / Serbian secret service had their capabilities because the situation on the ground would be starkly different today.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

They were brutal qetnic Arkan Karadxhiqi Mihailoviqi Putin agents, financed by "nice" (NOT!) Stalinist Milosheviqi "free" press in Belgrade and their Russian and Belarus friends destabilizing North Kosova. Now these Serbian criminals are free to roam Deçan Monastery, Graçanicë, Zveqan. Hope Kosova Police will find them earlier or later.

jonas

pre 12 godina

Its very clear that serbia has done this to make tensions heavy between ethnic groups and favour serbia in the eu becauae of its stability

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Yeah, I know. Just tell me what is the price of that fresh crop you got in the coffee shop.

http://www.marijuana.com/threads/what-is-good-quality-weed.230210/

Be careful and check the number of leaves. There are nine leaves on the plant, two kidneys in a Serb and donkeys have four legs. Just makes sure your math is OK.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.
--
Well, where else will they get a pat on the back from NATO and EULEX?

Demi

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Wow these Albanians are not as dumb as I thought they were. How smart! Escape to Kosovo* after committing a murder. Where better to escape too than the drug induced black hole joke of a society where the people you are rubbing shoulders with on the streets are most likely a bigger criminal than you are.

This is brilliant! Go some where you can blend in like a chameleon. A place where you cant tell apart a serial killer from a rapist from an organ harvester.

Boy... I can't wait until liberation and re-integration so we can return Kosovo to its spiritual sacredness. Because what it has become is simply unacceptable.

Any to the Macedonians, I may not agree with your falsification of theft of Greek history but learn from Serbs and handle this problem right now. Don't be a softy like Milosevic and try to reason with these terrorists. They know no negotiation and if you don't stop them now they will even take your capital "shkopi" as they all it and turn it into another center for all things evil.

The Albanian dream=Tirana, Pristina and Skoplje the triangle for heroin, extracted organs and sex trade of teenage girls. Nedaj Boze! The Orthodox Slavs must work together to combat this.

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Wow these Albanians are not as dumb as I thought they were. How smart! Escape to Kosovo* after committing a murder. Where better to escape too than the drug induced black hole joke of a society where the people you are rubbing shoulders with on the streets are most likely a bigger criminal than you are.

This is brilliant! Go some where you can blend in like a chameleon. A place where you cant tell apart a serial killer from a rapist from an organ harvester.

Boy... I can't wait until liberation and re-integration so we can return Kosovo to its spiritual sacredness. Because what it has become is simply unacceptable.

Any to the Macedonians, I may not agree with your falsification of theft of Greek history but learn from Serbs and handle this problem right now. Don't be a softy like Milosevic and try to reason with these terrorists. They know no negotiation and if you don't stop them now they will even take your capital "shkopi" as they all it and turn it into another center for all things evil.

The Albanian dream=Tirana, Pristina and Skoplje the triangle for heroin, extracted organs and sex trade of teenage girls. Nedaj Boze! The Orthodox Slavs must work together to combat this.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Do you genuinely believe anything you write? So according to you, the UDB agents who carried out the killings, fled the scene, drove over the border into AP KiM, dumped the car in which they were travelling there and then hitched a lift to Pristina.

Next you will be telling us it was the Klingons that did it.

Seriously, given the fact that it was premeditated, organised and the victims randomly chosen suggests that they were targeted on the basis of their ethnicity.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.
--
Well, where else will they get a pat on the back from NATO and EULEX?

Boris

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that. Serbia has enough problems to deal with and the issues on their plate far out way the benefits of your ridiculous accusations. Serbs in general in Serbia are struggling to deal with their internal issues being the economy, employment, health care, European integration to EU and not to speak of Kosovo. To suggest that they would have the fore thought to come up with what you have suggested is giving the Serbian government far too much credit. I say this even though I am a proud Serb. One thing that you have over looked is that Serbian government/ Serbian sercret service is not American CIA, German secret service or Isreali mosad or British mi6. Would be great if Serbian government / Serbian secret service had their capabilities because the situation on the ground would be starkly different today.

Demi

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Yeah, I know. Just tell me what is the price of that fresh crop you got in the coffee shop.

http://www.marijuana.com/threads/what-is-good-quality-weed.230210/

Be careful and check the number of leaves. There are nine leaves on the plant, two kidneys in a Serb and donkeys have four legs. Just makes sure your math is OK.

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

How stupid of them! Everybody knows Kosovo is a place where the rule of law is established, people are even arrested for 'carrying voter lists', so how can killers try to hide there?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks."
(nikshala, 17 April 2012 13:13)

Nothing to gain for normal people with democratic and European standards. But in a clan based society with archaic rules of blood feud, and where people consider 'revenge' as 'justice' (as we could read several times even here in comments of Albanian posters), I see this as very likely.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

that article b92 is quoting from seems nothing more than mere speculation. most likely escaped to kosovo doesn't actually mean anything. by the way, what evidence is there to suggest this was an ethnically motivated crime?

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

OMG... I thought that North of the Ibar was the only lawless place in Kosovo...

Me thinks Kosovo/Albanian "Law and order" is another word for ethnic cleansing according to Pristina logic.. so this is what they mean by wanting to implementing Law and order hmmm

Back to reality.. from the word go.. I never ever doubted that the killers were Albanians, besides they have a great track record of such activities..

Kill innocent civilians and hope for a heavy handed response by the military... then cry to the west

As for a previous poster about not wanting to destroy Macedonia in 2001, oh please you guys cant even destroy 40 000 serbs north of the Ibar..

You can kill innocent people but thats about it, to win a war you need support from the west which once again you are trying to muster in Macedonia

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

This is exactly where I said the killers were hiding the day after the killings. Any more debate that they were not Albanian? They will fit in perfectly fine with their family and friends there that have the same mentality and moral fiber.

jonas

pre 12 godina

Its very clear that serbia has done this to make tensions heavy between ethnic groups and favour serbia in the eu becauae of its stability

nikshala

pre 12 godina

We were told previously that the victims were killed 'execution' style from close up. Today we have the following statement:

"Jankulovska added that it appeared that the killers were "professionals", and said this was deduced from the fact that "most of the shots they fired hit the victims". "

It doesnt take a 'professional' to shoot someone and hit from close up. It's just and odd fact that jumped out at me.

Something fishy about this case but we will have to wait and see what the outcome is. As far as escape to Kosovo - what facts are there to support this? They have no idea who did this...It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks. It could also be serbian secret service since this plays exactly at the hands of the serbian politicans views of redrawing the borders across Balkans in the hope to get Republik Srpska and north of Kosovo.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Naser Oric's SUPPOSED massacres?? He doesn't even deny them, he's proud of them.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=232
You're a disgrace (and so is the Hague and the NATO war criminals who support you and people like Oric).

GRK

pre 12 godina

Dear B92. The makedonian capitol is Thessaloniki not Skopje. And in thessaloniki didnt happened anything. In makedonia didn't happen anything.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)
--
Really, you should read the UN report on Srebrenica. Even western officials knew revenge would take place for the massacre of thousands of Serbians by Oric's cowards from within a UN protected safe-haven. Even Izetbegovic allowed this sacrifice as justification for a Bosnian state, with the patriotic Bosnian Muslims having admitted as much also. Why do you think they classify it as genocide? The reason is to remove RS as an entity. They must be so disappointed with this unfinished business. Well, they chose to support the wrong side so it's not surprising.

Also, I can't believe my comments are getting through today. 5 posts yesterday and none showed up.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

LOL from who? roberto? Agim Kelmendi? Or maybe Avni? :)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

They were brutal qetnic Arkan Karadxhiqi Mihailoviqi Putin agents, financed by "nice" (NOT!) Stalinist Milosheviqi "free" press in Belgrade and their Russian and Belarus friends destabilizing North Kosova. Now these Serbian criminals are free to roam Deçan Monastery, Graçanicë, Zveqan. Hope Kosova Police will find them earlier or later.

edi

pre 12 godina

Everytime I read this website, the same people seem to be all the time on line. Don't you dear "ataman,ari the gold etc..." have a work to do , instead of keep writing some idiot coments about Albanians.
I am sure that those behind the killings in Macedonia are not Albanians because we are not intrested to destroy Macedionia,if we wanted we could have done that in 2001 when there was an offer but we didn't fall for that.
Simply wait and see.... Do not be surprised from the outcome....

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Wow, how quick some albo' s here point their fingers at Serbia. And in a later artical an albo terrorist group is threatening to attack Slavs and traitor albo's In Macedonia. Nothing new here.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 17:53)
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The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.

Klasiku

pre 12 godina

Interesting, why hasn't your site, or any news outlet in Macedonia or Serbia published the reports of the multiple condolence letters sent from the Kosova authorities to the Macedonian authorities? Are you punishing the Jews for Jesus' death?

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

If the Albanians wanted to kill the civilians, they could have killed thousands and thousands, until 1999 in Yugoslavia - but they did not, as they are not the savages that you would like them to be.

All the fabrications against them were carefully orchestrated to portray them as savages, uncivilized, tribal, blood-feud driven individuals. All of this, with one goal - to push them out of Kosovo and Macedonia - the Slavs wanted the land that they lived in, but not them.

Well, you succeeded to some point. About 25% of the Albanians from Kosovo and Macedonia now live abroad. I am one of them. Luckily, your stories and BS won't fly anymore. The world has seen in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who the real savages are!

Sooner or later you will realize and come to terms with the fact that as much as you would like the Albanians to leave, they are not going anywhere. The Albanians will continue to live in those areas, and there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it.

Finally, the perpetrators of this attack will be found, and dealt with properly.

You can spew hate as much as you want here - it's OK, as it's a freedom of speech thing tolerated to some point.

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Klasiku,

Stop talking about things you don't know. It was albanians that blew up a motel in macedonia while tiying up the motel maanger and employee inside, It was albanians that interrupted a Macedonian wedding and shot and killed the groom. There are still missing macedonian civilians from both the kosovo* and Macedonia wars. Do you suppose it was Turks that came and kidnapped them in order to create ethnic tensions?

Bassili

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Now that he found out that he's Alabaman and not Albanian he don't come around as much.
(Bayou la Batre, 17 April 2012 17:36) Let the police do their work and track down the killers we don't need red necks spewing their hates sit back and enjoy the music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzbdY_rPtjw&feature=related .

weekelpie

pre 12 godina

'the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians'

Every now and again a true classic is unearthed. The above extract from an earlier comment surely competes for same status?

............. the blinkered views of some folk beggars beliefs.

metrod

pre 12 godina

I don't have a crystal ball or insider information from trusted sources like some of you here but what if, and I mean what if the culprits aren't Albanian but in fact closer to your own kin?
What would your response be?
Will you blame the West again?

I can already see several different conspiracy theories coming out of some of you scholars.

2 million key rings please

pre 12 godina

(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 17 April 2012 14:33)

Bulgar of Ohrid, are you sure you have the time to post here? You have promised us two million keyrings, shouldn't you rather earn the necessary funds? 2 million keyrings, 2 million envelopes, 2 million envelopes, won't be cheap...

In case you have already forgotten: "Actually if any Albanian here can claim that there great great great grandfather was Born in Kosovo or Macedonia.. I will buy you an Albanain key ring and send it to you via post"

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Zoran

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians

Ataman

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that.
(Boris, 17 April 2012 12:46)

If you continue to insist that I am Albanian - better say something nicer to me, like "you mf piece of ***, son of a b**ch", that is OK.

By the way: that so-called "Stalinist Miloshevic press" ( = B92 as our friend Roberto insists - where he is, stuck in his foggy Frisco now?) continues to cut and "unpublish" what I write in response to probably most scandalous comments Internet can bear.

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Brilliant objectivity there. Serbs who make excuses for Srebrenica are dismissed as extremist, Albanians who write stupid things here are reflective of Albanians as a whole. very very European eh?

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.
(dori tirana, 18 April 2012 08:25)

They say, he was HELLENIC and BARBARIAN. That means: of Greek origin / language / culture - but OUTSIDE from the CITY-STATES like Athen, Sparta, etc: everyone who did not belong to the few selected city-states was considered a "barbarian".

The exact time of Slavic appearance on Balkans is not known. Greek military had accent on phalanx-like tactics, they did employ mercnary archers and these were "Schythians". Were "Schythians" of Slavic or Hunnic origin is not known, maybe something else.

Interesting fact that the Hittite language of Central Anatolia was decyphered with the help of Slavic languages. And even more intersting is to discover, the Hittite cultural / religious heritage is largely Hatti, and Hatti is an agglutinative language (something like Hunnic).

So go figure. However it is widely believed, Alexander the Great had nothing to do with either Slavs or Albanians.

We have a huge crowd of all kind of famous people, you can fill a library wiht books about them, no need to "steal" Alexander the Great from Hellenes, that is not even clever.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Oh, I read this nonsense written by Serbian extremists who try to justify the Srebrenica massacre and who consider war criminals 'heroes' often enough.

Denis

pre 12 godina

The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.
(Zoran, 17 April 2012 19:39)

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.
(Denis, 18 April 2012 07:07)

What about Albanians burning Macedonian flags? what about Albanians chanting racist chants at sporting events, what about Albanians beating up children and old women every day, what about the Albanian graffitti directed against macedonians..

To top it off, Albanians deny the basic right for Macedonians to even live and exist in the Balkans..

Lets cut the rubbish out, Albanians murdered 5 innocent people in the name of racism, next time Albanians burn a Macedonian flag, perhaps the Macedonians should use ur logic and implement the above ten fold..

Keep on playing the victim card...

namatA

pre 12 godina

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.
(Ataman, 17 April 2012 19:01)

Nobody who is sober and/ or sane understands what you mean.

haris

pre 12 godina

you serbs are very very good with the propaganda and manipulate people is this something new in balkan,just keep doing same thing over over agian ist easy just blame the albainans and ist all ok am sick of you all.balkanska ludi bre,thats how the wester contrey say about balkan.Brainwash people

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

(Klasiku, 17 April 2012 17:52)

Oh really? are you void of reality or sanity? or any other Albanian for that fact..

1000 Serb civillians have been killed since the end of the so called war in 99, and this in the name of ethnic cleansing..

How about the following massacres?

Pudujevo massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_massacre

Panda bar massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bar_Massacre

March 2004 riots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_unrest_in_Kosovo

This is just to name a few, i hope B92 has the courtesty to publish my comment as your comment is really offensive and racist yet published

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.



Really! really! really! Only because the UDBA said that and you think so?. When will you people learn to tell the truth?.

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.
(Bassili, 17 April 2012 20:02)

Dear Bassili, you can not respond to a big lie with another big lie. Everybody knows that the first Slav that put foot in Balkan was in 5 century after Christ. This is why the origin of SlavoMacedonian from Alexander the Great is a big lie(only the expensive statue of Alexander the Great in Skopje is Slav). Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.

vwp

pre 12 godina

During the bosnian war the greeks sold oil to the albanians who sold it to the serbs. this is our heritage .get the real story before you throw stupid comments. thank you.

iliri

pre 12 godina

stinks like udb all over, and it wouldn t be weird that the agent were albanian, udb has penetrated higher ranks, and according the media the premier himself is a serb agent, this masacre would be as devastating our nation as much as it is to fyrom, hope they find the guilty and trial them accordingly

Demi

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.

jonas

pre 12 godina

Its very clear that serbia has done this to make tensions heavy between ethnic groups and favour serbia in the eu becauae of its stability

Ari Gold

pre 12 godina

Wow these Albanians are not as dumb as I thought they were. How smart! Escape to Kosovo* after committing a murder. Where better to escape too than the drug induced black hole joke of a society where the people you are rubbing shoulders with on the streets are most likely a bigger criminal than you are.

This is brilliant! Go some where you can blend in like a chameleon. A place where you cant tell apart a serial killer from a rapist from an organ harvester.

Boy... I can't wait until liberation and re-integration so we can return Kosovo to its spiritual sacredness. Because what it has become is simply unacceptable.

Any to the Macedonians, I may not agree with your falsification of theft of Greek history but learn from Serbs and handle this problem right now. Don't be a softy like Milosevic and try to reason with these terrorists. They know no negotiation and if you don't stop them now they will even take your capital "shkopi" as they all it and turn it into another center for all things evil.

The Albanian dream=Tirana, Pristina and Skoplje the triangle for heroin, extracted organs and sex trade of teenage girls. Nedaj Boze! The Orthodox Slavs must work together to combat this.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

They were brutal qetnic Arkan Karadxhiqi Mihailoviqi Putin agents, financed by "nice" (NOT!) Stalinist Milosheviqi "free" press in Belgrade and their Russian and Belarus friends destabilizing North Kosova. Now these Serbian criminals are free to roam Deçan Monastery, Graçanicë, Zveqan. Hope Kosova Police will find them earlier or later.

nikshala

pre 12 godina

We were told previously that the victims were killed 'execution' style from close up. Today we have the following statement:

"Jankulovska added that it appeared that the killers were "professionals", and said this was deduced from the fact that "most of the shots they fired hit the victims". "

It doesnt take a 'professional' to shoot someone and hit from close up. It's just and odd fact that jumped out at me.

Something fishy about this case but we will have to wait and see what the outcome is. As far as escape to Kosovo - what facts are there to support this? They have no idea who did this...It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks. It could also be serbian secret service since this plays exactly at the hands of the serbian politicans views of redrawing the borders across Balkans in the hope to get Republik Srpska and north of Kosovo.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

that article b92 is quoting from seems nothing more than mere speculation. most likely escaped to kosovo doesn't actually mean anything. by the way, what evidence is there to suggest this was an ethnically motivated crime?

edi

pre 12 godina

Everytime I read this website, the same people seem to be all the time on line. Don't you dear "ataman,ari the gold etc..." have a work to do , instead of keep writing some idiot coments about Albanians.
I am sure that those behind the killings in Macedonia are not Albanians because we are not intrested to destroy Macedionia,if we wanted we could have done that in 2001 when there was an offer but we didn't fall for that.
Simply wait and see.... Do not be surprised from the outcome....

Ataman

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Yeah, I know. Just tell me what is the price of that fresh crop you got in the coffee shop.

http://www.marijuana.com/threads/what-is-good-quality-weed.230210/

Be careful and check the number of leaves. There are nine leaves on the plant, two kidneys in a Serb and donkeys have four legs. Just makes sure your math is OK.

Klasiku

pre 12 godina

Interesting, why hasn't your site, or any news outlet in Macedonia or Serbia published the reports of the multiple condolence letters sent from the Kosova authorities to the Macedonian authorities? Are you punishing the Jews for Jesus' death?

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

If the Albanians wanted to kill the civilians, they could have killed thousands and thousands, until 1999 in Yugoslavia - but they did not, as they are not the savages that you would like them to be.

All the fabrications against them were carefully orchestrated to portray them as savages, uncivilized, tribal, blood-feud driven individuals. All of this, with one goal - to push them out of Kosovo and Macedonia - the Slavs wanted the land that they lived in, but not them.

Well, you succeeded to some point. About 25% of the Albanians from Kosovo and Macedonia now live abroad. I am one of them. Luckily, your stories and BS won't fly anymore. The world has seen in Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo who the real savages are!

Sooner or later you will realize and come to terms with the fact that as much as you would like the Albanians to leave, they are not going anywhere. The Albanians will continue to live in those areas, and there is absolutely nothing that you can do about it.

Finally, the perpetrators of this attack will be found, and dealt with properly.

You can spew hate as much as you want here - it's OK, as it's a freedom of speech thing tolerated to some point.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.
--
Well, where else will they get a pat on the back from NATO and EULEX?

metrod

pre 12 godina

I don't have a crystal ball or insider information from trusted sources like some of you here but what if, and I mean what if the culprits aren't Albanian but in fact closer to your own kin?
What would your response be?
Will you blame the West again?

I can already see several different conspiracy theories coming out of some of you scholars.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres

Niall O'Doherty

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

Do you genuinely believe anything you write? So according to you, the UDB agents who carried out the killings, fled the scene, drove over the border into AP KiM, dumped the car in which they were travelling there and then hitched a lift to Pristina.

Next you will be telling us it was the Klingons that did it.

Seriously, given the fact that it was premeditated, organised and the victims randomly chosen suggests that they were targeted on the basis of their ethnicity.

2 million key rings please

pre 12 godina

(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 17 April 2012 14:33)

Bulgar of Ohrid, are you sure you have the time to post here? You have promised us two million keyrings, shouldn't you rather earn the necessary funds? 2 million keyrings, 2 million envelopes, 2 million envelopes, won't be cheap...

In case you have already forgotten: "Actually if any Albanian here can claim that there great great great grandfather was Born in Kosovo or Macedonia.. I will buy you an Albanain key ring and send it to you via post"

Bassili

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.

haris

pre 12 godina

you serbs are very very good with the propaganda and manipulate people is this something new in balkan,just keep doing same thing over over agian ist easy just blame the albainans and ist all ok am sick of you all.balkanska ludi bre,thats how the wester contrey say about balkan.Brainwash people

Boris

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that. Serbia has enough problems to deal with and the issues on their plate far out way the benefits of your ridiculous accusations. Serbs in general in Serbia are struggling to deal with their internal issues being the economy, employment, health care, European integration to EU and not to speak of Kosovo. To suggest that they would have the fore thought to come up with what you have suggested is giving the Serbian government far too much credit. I say this even though I am a proud Serb. One thing that you have over looked is that Serbian government/ Serbian sercret service is not American CIA, German secret service or Isreali mosad or British mi6. Would be great if Serbian government / Serbian secret service had their capabilities because the situation on the ground would be starkly different today.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Zoran

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians

J.Oker

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

How stupid of them! Everybody knows Kosovo is a place where the rule of law is established, people are even arrested for 'carrying voter lists', so how can killers try to hide there?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"It could be albanians as revenge for recent anti-albanian attacks but I see this as unlikely since there is nothing to gain from these attacks."
(nikshala, 17 April 2012 13:13)

Nothing to gain for normal people with democratic and European standards. But in a clan based society with archaic rules of blood feud, and where people consider 'revenge' as 'justice' (as we could read several times even here in comments of Albanian posters), I see this as very likely.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Now that he found out that he's Alabaman and not Albanian he don't come around as much.
(Bayou la Batre, 17 April 2012 17:36) Let the police do their work and track down the killers we don't need red necks spewing their hates sit back and enjoy the music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzbdY_rPtjw&feature=related .

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Oh, I read this nonsense written by Serbian extremists who try to justify the Srebrenica massacre and who consider war criminals 'heroes' often enough.

Nelli_Canada

pre 12 godina

According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo.



Really! really! really! Only because the UDBA said that and you think so?. When will you people learn to tell the truth?.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

OMG... I thought that North of the Ibar was the only lawless place in Kosovo...

Me thinks Kosovo/Albanian "Law and order" is another word for ethnic cleansing according to Pristina logic.. so this is what they mean by wanting to implementing Law and order hmmm

Back to reality.. from the word go.. I never ever doubted that the killers were Albanians, besides they have a great track record of such activities..

Kill innocent civilians and hope for a heavy handed response by the military... then cry to the west

As for a previous poster about not wanting to destroy Macedonia in 2001, oh please you guys cant even destroy 40 000 serbs north of the Ibar..

You can kill innocent people but thats about it, to win a war you need support from the west which once again you are trying to muster in Macedonia

GRK

pre 12 godina

Dear B92. The makedonian capitol is Thessaloniki not Skopje. And in thessaloniki didnt happened anything. In makedonia didn't happen anything.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)
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Really, you should read the UN report on Srebrenica. Even western officials knew revenge would take place for the massacre of thousands of Serbians by Oric's cowards from within a UN protected safe-haven. Even Izetbegovic allowed this sacrifice as justification for a Bosnian state, with the patriotic Bosnian Muslims having admitted as much also. Why do you think they classify it as genocide? The reason is to remove RS as an entity. They must be so disappointed with this unfinished business. Well, they chose to support the wrong side so it's not surprising.

Also, I can't believe my comments are getting through today. 5 posts yesterday and none showed up.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 12 godina

There are information that serbian secret service killed this 5 victims to spark tensions between albanians and macedonians. Sounds more likely than albanians killing them.
(Demi, 17 April 2012 11:08)

LOL from who? roberto? Agim Kelmendi? Or maybe Avni? :)

Ataman

pre 12 godina

@Ataman, Jonas, Demi
You can't buy common sense. The 3 of you are living proof of that.
(Boris, 17 April 2012 12:46)

If you continue to insist that I am Albanian - better say something nicer to me, like "you mf piece of ***, son of a b**ch", that is OK.

By the way: that so-called "Stalinist Miloshevic press" ( = B92 as our friend Roberto insists - where he is, stuck in his foggy Frisco now?) continues to cut and "unpublish" what I write in response to probably most scandalous comments Internet can bear.

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

I am going to for a moment accept what you told me as truth. it then seems that the doctrine of eye for an eye is a Balkan trait, not one exclusive to Albanians
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 17:53)
--
The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.

Steve B.

pre 12 godina

"According to the article, the killers most likely escaped the scene and fled to Kosovo."

This is exactly where I said the killers were hiding the day after the killings. Any more debate that they were not Albanian? They will fit in perfectly fine with their family and friends there that have the same mentality and moral fiber.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Really interesting you should say that. Perhaps you want to read how some Serb posters so easily dismiss as revenge for Naser Oric's supposed massacres
(Nikolle, 17 April 2012 15:48)

Naser Oric's SUPPOSED massacres?? He doesn't even deny them, he's proud of them.
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=232
You're a disgrace (and so is the Hague and the NATO war criminals who support you and people like Oric).

robert1899

pre 12 godina

Klasiku,

Stop talking about things you don't know. It was albanians that blew up a motel in macedonia while tiying up the motel maanger and employee inside, It was albanians that interrupted a Macedonian wedding and shot and killed the groom. There are still missing macedonian civilians from both the kosovo* and Macedonia wars. Do you suppose it was Turks that came and kidnapped them in order to create ethnic tensions?

dori tirana

pre 12 godina

Dear B92 ,please stop offending us ,your greek readers, by using the greek term Makedonia, so greek as Akropolis or Olympia, for the country named FYROM. Please stop faking history and don't forget that Serbia itself is the victim of such a fake history in Kosovo i Metohia.
(Bassili, 17 April 2012 20:02)

Dear Bassili, you can not respond to a big lie with another big lie. Everybody knows that the first Slav that put foot in Balkan was in 5 century after Christ. This is why the origin of SlavoMacedonian from Alexander the Great is a big lie(only the expensive statue of Alexander the Great in Skopje is Slav). Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.
(Denis, 18 April 2012 07:07)

What about Albanians burning Macedonian flags? what about Albanians chanting racist chants at sporting events, what about Albanians beating up children and old women every day, what about the Albanian graffitti directed against macedonians..

To top it off, Albanians deny the basic right for Macedonians to even live and exist in the Balkans..

Lets cut the rubbish out, Albanians murdered 5 innocent people in the name of racism, next time Albanians burn a Macedonian flag, perhaps the Macedonians should use ur logic and implement the above ten fold..

Keep on playing the victim card...

namatA

pre 12 godina

In any case what I wrote was of course a sarcasm. Our Albanian "friends" do understand well what I mean.
(Ataman, 17 April 2012 19:01)

Nobody who is sober and/ or sane understands what you mean.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Comm. Parrisson

Brilliant objectivity there. Serbs who make excuses for Srebrenica are dismissed as extremist, Albanians who write stupid things here are reflective of Albanians as a whole. very very European eh?

Bulgar Of Ohrid

pre 12 godina

Anyway, there was a War in Kosovo, and a War in Macedonia in the last 15 years.

In those wars, the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians, although you proudly claim that they did, using claims based on a fiction book published by a retarded... oops, a retired UN official dying for some attention.

(Klasiku, 17 April 2012 17:52)

Oh really? are you void of reality or sanity? or any other Albanian for that fact..

1000 Serb civillians have been killed since the end of the so called war in 99, and this in the name of ethnic cleansing..

How about the following massacres?

Pudujevo massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podujevo_massacre

Panda bar massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panda_Bar_Massacre

March 2004 riots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_unrest_in_Kosovo

This is just to name a few, i hope B92 has the courtesty to publish my comment as your comment is really offensive and racist yet published

Dennis

pre 12 godina

Wow, how quick some albo' s here point their fingers at Serbia. And in a later artical an albo terrorist group is threatening to attack Slavs and traitor albo's In Macedonia. Nothing new here.

Denis

pre 12 godina

The biggest difference being that what Serbs did happened during war time, however, Albanians seem to continue in what most consider peaceful times. What K*-Albanians did to those young FYROMians is a complete disgrace.
(Zoran, 17 April 2012 19:39)

This is better than comedy central. So you decide when to kill and plunder and you call it "justified" cuz it's war time for you? Hmm how genious.

Albanians in Macedonia live in a country where in every sporting event they spit slogans against their national background for no reason, where they write grafitties against Albanians, where they burn Alb flag, where they beat their kids and want to treat them like second class citizens. Well now they are learning the hard way not to do that. Maybe next time Slavs in Macedonia will learn to respect their fellow citizens rather than quarelling and hating, if they they want a country that is. Albanians in Macedonia aren't going anywhere, maybe they should start with that.........

Statistically in less then 50 yrs albanians will constitute over 50% of population in Macedonia .... just to leave you with something to think about.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Your Great ancient writers say that Alexander and Macedonian were barbaric (not Greek) race. So don’t offend your Great ancient writers. Greece has to much story and no need to steel others heroes.
(dori tirana, 18 April 2012 08:25)

They say, he was HELLENIC and BARBARIAN. That means: of Greek origin / language / culture - but OUTSIDE from the CITY-STATES like Athen, Sparta, etc: everyone who did not belong to the few selected city-states was considered a "barbarian".

The exact time of Slavic appearance on Balkans is not known. Greek military had accent on phalanx-like tactics, they did employ mercnary archers and these were "Schythians". Were "Schythians" of Slavic or Hunnic origin is not known, maybe something else.

Interesting fact that the Hittite language of Central Anatolia was decyphered with the help of Slavic languages. And even more intersting is to discover, the Hittite cultural / religious heritage is largely Hatti, and Hatti is an agglutinative language (something like Hunnic).

So go figure. However it is widely believed, Alexander the Great had nothing to do with either Slavs or Albanians.

We have a huge crowd of all kind of famous people, you can fill a library wiht books about them, no need to "steal" Alexander the Great from Hellenes, that is not even clever.

weekelpie

pre 12 godina

'the Albanians fought against the military and the police. They did not fight against nor kill civilians'

Every now and again a true classic is unearthed. The above extract from an earlier comment surely competes for same status?

............. the blinkered views of some folk beggars beliefs.

iliri

pre 12 godina

stinks like udb all over, and it wouldn t be weird that the agent were albanian, udb has penetrated higher ranks, and according the media the premier himself is a serb agent, this masacre would be as devastating our nation as much as it is to fyrom, hope they find the guilty and trial them accordingly

vwp

pre 12 godina

During the bosnian war the greeks sold oil to the albanians who sold it to the serbs. this is our heritage .get the real story before you throw stupid comments. thank you.