No bomb is ever capable of melting anything.
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(Paul, 10 April 2012 22:59)
So wrong again, my Serbian denier. The explosion of C4 creates an exothermic gas reaction with the velocity of 8000 meters (!) per second. Metals with low melting points (such as aluminium frames) simply fold away, with those parts which are close enough to be melted away, but not because of the heat created by the explosion but of the highly dynamic and fast deformation.
Exactly because of that reaction, it is absolutely normal not to see extensive remains of an fire, but sheer destruction. I told you already that there are pretty obvious explosion patterns right under the explosion point. No fire brigade would cause that scars. It was a bomb right on top of the window frame. You also still failed to comment my previous points, marked with a) and b) in my previous post, but I'm sure that nothing will come from you.
No bomb is ever capable of melting anything. That's just absurd. And how could it be hot enough to melt something without scorching anything else? And you can't see enough of the wall in the background to determine whether it was damaged or not. We don't even know if the room and window we are looking at in the image had anything to do with the explosion at all. The window looks like it was smashed by a fire response team to get inside and put fires out. It doesn't look like it had anything to do with an explosion at all.
You are again so wrong. Just look at the metal frame at left side. It is melted at the edge, something what you will see nowhere else. It means that there was a heat source which was strong enough to melt down metal but only at this point. That is the source of the bomb. You can also see bomb scars going from it in a concentric way. There is no chance that this could have happen from the side.
You also did not mention the fact which I stated yesterday, such as a) the metal frame, punctually destroyed at the left side of this window and b) the fact that the (blue) wall inside the room shows no sign of any shrapnel holes. An explosion from inside what have teared it apart, leaving a Swiss cheese of the wall.
It makes the conclusion perfect. It was a terrorist attack, likely with an ethnic background. The family has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
(Commentator, 9 April 2012 01:44)
The picture proves my point. Notice the complete absence of burn marks anywhere on the bottom of the window frame. Notice that the frame on the right is complete intact and unscarred, but even so, the window glass is gone. The marks on the window sill, especially the damage done to the concrete on the left are not the work of a bomb, but were done later.
Notice the burn marks on the central beam in the window. You can clearly see that the scorching on them did not come from the side and outside, but in fact came from inside. There is also charring along the top of the window suggesting that the inside of the apartment spent some time burning, something that could not have happened if the bomb had been on the window sill.
Yes. Without a doubt, it was an Albanian bomb builder, cooking up something for Serbs while his wife and four kids were in the apartment with him. And it went off accidentally.
But that doesn't matter, the Serbs will be blamed anyway. What else are they going to do? Albanian Kosovo is violent, corrupt and without a future. They have no vocation except to kill, maim and persecute.
I expect your jokes of donkeys and kidneys. Btw. SRECAN USKRS!
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:42
Not on this one, it could be anything either way and not a good subject of jokes. Who did it should rot in jail. Reading all the comments here is no joy and no fun.
I like the HVG.HU but it is rather anti-Serb. Given that they very quickly submitted the news:
the perpetraters are most likely Serbs, even that they write "the motives are unknown". I would wait and see, there is no such thing as "most likely guilty", gut feelings are not jurrors or judges.
RIP to the victim, the donkeys and kidneys went into other threads for you to enjoy THERE, here it's 100% inapropriate.
"You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe"
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:5)
Yes, it was like that, in WW2, but why go back that long? For similar reasons, there are almost no Serbs in Krajina living any more nowadays.
CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
AFter reading your post I cannot possibly imagine why any Albanian would not feel perfectly welcome in Serbia.
If only the love oozing from your post could be captured by Hallmark!
...and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,...
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
There is a lot of right wing crap in your hate post, but I will point out this one. Can explain in what relation stays this message of yours of the terrorist bombing on a family father and his children? You claim that it would be insane for Serbs to attack Albanians, but promises (better said wishes) in future another genocide attempt.
You just gave a shining example why it so violently ended for many Serbs in all parts of former Yugoslavia. May God have mercy with your Satanist and hate-filled soul which itches for the death of families and their kids.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
(Paul, 8 April 2012 22:45)
You are utterly wrong and this can explained with this picture:
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
Let's review the report. The "regional representative" says the bomb was place on the window of a ground floor apartment. How was it fused? Why wasn't the bomb thrown through the window into the apartment? Why just place it on the window sill? There was one person killed and two wounded. How could a bomb placed on a window sill kill anyone at all? They would have to be right next to the window. There were six people in the apartment.
We don't know who was killed, but let us guess that it was the man who was killed. If so, it is more likely that the man was building a bomb and it went off. In an apartment we have a living room, a kitchen and two bedrooms. If the bomb was placed on a window then somebody must have been sitting very close to the window to be killed.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
I am not sure whether you are a German(normally Albanians on this site claim to be Westerners to show us Serbs how ordnary Westerners are supposedly disgusted by Serbs)
But even if you are:
You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe,they enthusiastically massacred their Serbian neighbours in cities like Pancevo,Zrenjanin and Novi Sad and they even took part in killing Serbs throughout Yugoslavia and militarily insuring that Croat Ustashas could kill as much Serb civilians as possible...
Oh and for that blaming thing,how did WW2 start?
Yep,it was Germany soldiers killing Poles and giving them fake German uniforms to show to the world how allegedly the Poles were the agressors,not the Germans!
This same thing happening today in Kosovo!
My point is:
You can lie and distort the facts as much as you want:
Serbs would be insane in NM to start a war by killing unarmed Albanains,they have no interest in it!
And the bigger picture,and that is once and for all:
IT WAS NOT SERB CHRISTIANS INVADING ALBANIA AND CLAIMING TOWNS LIKE SKUTARI OR TIRANA !
THIS IS WHEN IT COULD BE CALLED A GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION!
BUT IT WAS ALBANIAN MUSLIMS INVADING SERBIA GRADUALLY AND CLAIMING PRISTINA,PRIZREN,K.MITROVICA TO SPLIT AND UNITE WITH ALBANIA WHICH ARE TOWNS IN THE RECOGNIZED BORDERS OF SERBIA !
THAT MEANS IT IS A CASE OF GREATER ALBANIAN AGRESSION!!!!!!!!!
SERBIA CANNOT MAKE A "GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION "ON ITS OWN TERRITORY!
SO STOP LYING AND DISTORTING!!!
There will be a reckoning day and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,I don`t consider them citizens of Serbia anymore,if over 30 recognized minorities can live without problems in Serbia what is the problem with Albanians?
Why are they always "mistreated" while no other minority complains?
It is because they are on a mission ,they want to steal others people territory and make it 100% ethnically theirs!
Each Islamic nation does that when it comes in contact with Christians!
That is the truth and all reasonable Westerners(I dont count Willi into it) will agree with it.regardless what they are forced to do by their "decision makers"...
So keep whining that your brain washing doesn`t work with me nor with other Serbs and an increasing number of folks in the West who are with anger and disgust seeing what their "elite" is doing knowing very will that it will transcent into Western countries too!
"Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 April 2012 17:57)
Unfortunately, there are groups on both sides who deliberately want further destabilization and think they would benefit from it instead of trying to improve the weak status quo.
Or you forget about conspiracy theories and it might be as simple as a Serb killing some unwanted Albanian neighbor, or an Albanian from a another clan killing some rivals, all possible in this democratic, multi-ethnic dream state of Kosovo.
CG .....
you're a pseudo intellectual whose common sense is surmised of bigotry and hate. When you actually try to put down people by your derogatory comments, you just lose the respect of those around you. Soon everyone will start ignoring you altogether. But just keep in mind that things aren't so just because someone (as you) with no expertise on a subject attempts to bend the truth. But maybe you can't help it. Perhaps you're the "fool" who always has to say something.
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:59)
Says the troll that wishes for Oluja in the north.
If a Serb gets hurt, Serbian politicians jump out of their holes and blame the whole Albanian nation for it, no making a difference whether it was a ethnic or a simple criminal background. In fact, all what matters to them is the ethnicity of the victim, not the circumstances.
Here we see an obvious terrorist attack on a family and a bomb in the window of a kid's bedroom. There is no assurance yet who it was (thought it is not hard to guess), but it would still require at least the condemnation from Serbian politicians. But look at this, nothing. Very interestig, when you recall that Dacic and Co. insist that Kosovo is Serbian and so the people Serbian citizens.
Say what you what you want, but this day showed us again how the people feel and think.
My condolences to the family and their tragici and unforgiving loss.
I really hope the perpetrators will be found and punished.
(EA, 8 April 2012 12:11)
Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation.
They will never win, they're only ensuring that Kosovo is left without Serbs. Just yesterday in Belgrade in less than 24 hours 4 Serbs committed suicide. This tells you what kind of people Serbs are. They did that during they Christian holidays. Nothing more says Christianity than committing suicide in holy days.
It's no wonder that the Balkans are a giant cyst of unnecessary and down-right hilarious hatred when a terrible attack on a member of one ethnicity is automatically blamed upon the other one. Reading some of these comments genuinely makes me a bit irritated; who knows whether it was truly a Serb who did this? Given Albanians' notorious culture of infighting (which Albanians have admitted to themselves), is it not possible AT ALL that this could be the result of some silly, out-of-hand familial squabble between two Albanian families/people? No amount of circumstantial evidence picked up from this article alone can automatically lead people to assume, without further thought, that "OMG BELGRADE-BACKED SERBIAN TERRORISTS DID THIS". LOL. Even if that were true, do you guys really think that, in an election campaign, any Serbian political parties would want to be associated with the bombing of an innocent person who hasn't done anything to harm Serbia or Serbs?
The morons who are making those comments would be crucified in a courtroom. But, maybe in the kangaroo courts of Kosovo/a, you guys would be considered prime witnesses, since you can automatically pinpoint Genericoslav Serbiannameovic as the perpetrator of this attack!
Kosovo independence is not going to happen
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
You may be right; we can’t know what is or is not going to happen 1000 or 1000000 years from now. But, yes, in the present Kosovo is already independent from Serbia and even Serbia admits that when it says that Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo.
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UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
What we know, thanks to Vuk, is that Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244. We also know that UN1244 says nowhere that Kosovo “is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations”. At least, not in the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish versions. Not sure about the Serbian one...
Albanians are well known for killing their own and blaming the Serbs. this is typical of their cowardly actions. I hope the Albanians who committed this crime are captured and brought to justice.
Had the victim been Serb the headline would be smth like "Serb killed in an Albanian sorrunded neighborhood" "Serb family home bombed, 1 killed" etc etc... and UNSC would now have e meeting. But seeing what a coward Thaci is, this will go away as nothing special happend.
Bulgar,this has not so much to do with "Kosovo is Serbia" nationalism but with the fight between a democratic,Western and Christian society like Serbia against an evil ideology that combines Islamism and Albanian fascism!
Everyone concerned in the fight against tyranny should uncompromisingly take the side of Serbia because a win of Albanian Islamofascism in Kosovo would have terrible consequences:
- Greater Albanian asprations against Central Serbia,Macedonia,Montenegro and even Greece would radicalize
- Muslim extremists throughout Europe and America would become radicalized because of an example where it actually "worked" to turn a part of Europe from a "non believing" to a "believing " territory
- a reward for all future agressors in the form of a shattered international law
It would be like Hitler standing up from the grave and say: I won!
Serbia is fighting the fight for the survival of Western values,it is time for the Western elites to get rid of the Islamic fifthcolumnists in their ranks and join us!
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39
Well, I am as much troll as KiM Albanians peace-loving, multiculturalist and democratic people...name calling does not change the facts. I was in KiM, not as interpreter, and believe, the Serbs are much more europeans than Albanians are. by the way Kelmendi -many of your clanmembers got killed by UCK, didn`t you know that?
Nikolle, thank you v. much - I personally did not keep VSCG back - they just respected the agreements they had signed for - unlike KFOR who has always been biased( or COs giving in to their venal politicians`pressure). Yes I recall, there were some Swedish people who out of justice passed some info to Serbs (what they were entitled to) - those were real europeans - others of us just made in KiM money and discussed quietly things I am posting here...but for the criminals the truth is what they have created for themselves...and for KiM Albanians it is that they were persecuted and that they so much have desired multiethnic Kosovo - you are worse of nationalists I have ever seen- and that at the expense of your hospitable neighbors (who finally had no other choice but follow your modus operandi).
So Ottoman Albanians - learn from history - one day obviously will be a reckoning day, and as you do not care other ethnic groups` children then why should other care of yours? Why have, for instance, Romas not returned to Roma Mahalla - yes, because this your true nature...ethnic cleansers and Albanian supremacists - right?
First fix your own affairs S of Ibar and show that you are better off than Serbs, and stop for a while war mongering, land-grabbing and preaching how "cultural" you are...so far not even your motherland Albania has managed to do it despite not being "supressed" by Serbs!
the way some serbs react to this says it all. No fingerpointing ...., excuse me, the next thing they will come up with is another conspiracy therory, and will claim that that Kosovars did that to hurt Serbia. What is wrong with you guys, learn that a lot of horrible things were done in the name of your country, face the reality, that everybody in the world knows, except for some nationalist serbs, who actully pose a threat to not just the region, but to the entire world. This has to end, once and for all!!!
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
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This is exactly what I want to say to Roberto too.
People like Roberto are disgusting for jumping to conclusions. Considering last month in South Mitro there were 3 different shootings of Albanians BY Albanians resulting in 7 people shot.
Not a word by Roberto then because the perps were all caught. Could this bombing be in retaliation? Sure. Just as likely as if a Serb did it.
Here is but one link about those shootings that no one could blame Serbs for:
If we can all be honest, then we need to say that we do not know who is responsible, and what the motive is.
That having been said; there are three things that are needed for a crime, and they, are: Motive, Means, and Opportunity.
The Motives of the Terrorist KLA are known, and it is recorded that they have murdered Albanians if it will further their cause.
We know that ROSU has came in Uniform to North Kosovo, but being in Uniform makes them easy to detect, and carrying rifles can make them at target of those who want to protect themselves from Terrorists.
It is documented that Specially Trained Albanians can the Administrative Line between Serbia, and it Province of Kosovo, as was shown by the recently arrested, charged, and released Albanian Police.
It is easier for Albanian Terrorists to work in Civilian Clothing, and to use explosives as their weapons for their unjust cause of an independent Kosovo.
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
I almost feel sorry for you. Turning this terrorist act into hate and this coming from someone from the west is beyond belief.
(Mendo, 8 April 2012 14:03)
You really bought that exKfor is from the west, if he was ever associated with Kfor it was in the capacity of interpreter. He is as Serbian as one can get.
Wow so much emotion and accusations, no evidence of anything, it could have been that this person owed money to the alb mafia, hence was liquidated.. The Serb has nothing to gain by murdering Albanians in the north, think about the old serb grannies living in isolated pockets sth of the Ibar, obviously no one can protect them.. Remember kfor only defends alb from Serb but turns an blind when in reverse! How many unsolved murders of Serbs are there? 1000 and counting? Anyway both alba and Serbs should renounce ethnic nationalism and get over this crap.. This whole Illyrian and Kosovo is serbia rubbish has screwed peoples mind.. People are so mindless!
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
(Yet Another J S, 8 April 2012 15:03)
Sherlock Holmes solves the crime at the end of the movie, but you are unlike Shelock Holmes and manage to solve the crime at the beginning of the movie. So much for my movie ticket. What of waste of money! Will never see your movies again.
EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
We don't have to join none of the above, since they joined us. But UN is little to short on his manpower or legitimacy in Kosova.I am surprised you failed to mention USA,which is the most reliable and trusted partner of Kosova.
Albanians killing each other and Albanian nationalists using it for preparing a new progrom upon the Serbs in Kosovo!Like they did in 2004!
The West must stand up to the Greater Albanians fascism immediately,and to its supporters like roberto at home!
They kidnapped the Western foreign policy in the 90s and look what they have done by trying to appease Islamism in the Middle East by throwing the Serbian Christian people to the Islamic wulf!
Kosovo must be transferred back to Serbian control and Albanians would have to choices:
Respect Serbia as a country or get hell out,no more Albanian islamofascism in Serbia!
Kosovo independence is not going to happen,UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
You lot really are crazy, you're blaming an uncommon, single, (yet still tragic) murder committed by one person (and we dont know if he was a Serb) collectively onto an entire race, dont you know how genocides start?
for their press: even tragedy like this doesn't make it worth even for headline.
Serbs in Bosnia started a war because of a murder during a wedding, but bombing children’s bedroom is not worth even of headline- of course if the victim is not a Serb.
Europe: will be responsible one more time for another escalation of tensions and perhaps conflict in the region. The lack of firm and unambiguous condemnation of the "reciprocal arrests" by EU is SCANDAL and no one speaks about that. Not even ONE single journalist to ask Olli Rhen or other EU bureaucrats why they are not condemning such criminal act. EU is opening the Pandora’s box.
P.S. congrats to Ms Hartman that exposed Karl Bild's hypocrisy yesterday.
Yes ecoman, you are right, we should not rush to judgement. perhaprs you want to remember that next time you read headlines lie 'serb beaten up in Kosova' or whatever
Happy easter to all that are celebrating today. Sad news but it is going to be the new reality. This is Iva Dadic tryin to flame tensions again for his electoral benefit. He needs to have an unstable Kosovo in the north so he can campaign with it. It's his only card. For the Albanians it would be better if Dadic wins. It will consolidate the world view that Serbia will remain forever a dictatorial state and give more legitimacy to Kosovo.
This is the ugly face of terrorism. Explosive device on the window of children’s bedroom, how low can this people go? Once again, this is a result of policies coming from Belgrade regime that still continues to support radical groups in order to achieve their goals.
Terrorism must be condemned in the strongest terms wherever it comes from. European Union (EU) candidate like Serbia shouldn’t be allowed to continue with the ideology of 1990s that resulted on genocide and millions of people displaced and ethnically cleansed.
EU should be very careful not to become complacent with Serbia transformation (progress). EU might be in financial difficulties now, but with the hard work EU nations will prevail.
Criminal thugs are trying to expel K-Albanians from northern Mitro, but they will not succeed.
Reading some report from different news site, it is being reported that Serbian thug has been putting pressure on this family to vacate the apartment so he can move in.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
The problem is that the war is still on -- 1999 was a kind of forced cease-fire, of sorts. the west has never forced the blgrd regime to make peace with its neighbors, and in fact it has continued to fight a war against Bosnia and Kosova (lost the one w/ croatia), but by more "subtle" means.
when you have a dangerous delinquent on the block, you have to deal with them, not just close yr eyes and use pretty words...
the kind of terror we see, again and again, is a trickle down from the policies of serbia's elite, which has not altered in substance since the 90s.
as for their press -- read it and weep!
to the west, wake up!
rip to the family, of course, another needless tragedy. from hate to hate to hate...
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
Really?!?! Why NOW?!?!? You Serbian fingerpointers wet your pants when kids pelt rocks and denounce the whole Albanian nation. Now Serbs murderers a Albanian, father of two children and all what we can hear his is fingerpointing and the rest of the usual crap coming from you.
Rest in peace, Selver Haradinaj! Your death will not get unanswered.
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
But if the victim had been a Serb, finger pointing would be allowed?
in 2004 Tri Solitera were the buildings usedd by UCK to sniper at both Serbs and KFOR troops - before they were liquidated from helicopters. ANd then illyrians threw self-made hand-grenades at our troops. this must be KiM Albanins`feud issue -but again, even if the explosive was left by KiM supressed minorities then they must look in the mirror - what goes around, comes around.
suggest to read 1987 NYT
The New York Times , November 1, 1987, Sunday, Late City Final Edition
SECTION: Section 1; Part 1, Page 14, Column 1; Foreign Desk
HEADLINE: In Yugoslavia, Rising Ethnic Strife Brings Fears of Worse Civil Conflict
Rest in peace. I can't wait to hear how the serbs justify this terrorist attack. What else do you expect from the "dream minority" of europe where petrol bombing embassies, borders, and people is a common occurance?
Imagine if it was a Serb killed in this way?? Churking would ask for urgent meeting of UN SC.
While Govt in Prishtina does all she can to secure the return of those Serbs that left Kosova together with Milosevic’s criminal army, builds even houses for them there is NOT even ONE SINGLE attempt to return the Albanians in north which is predominantly Serb. Yet Serbs cry while Albanians cannot say even a word.
Terrible. The violence has to end. Unfortunately there is no end in sight as long as the common Kosovo Albanian supports the murderous terrorist KLA. This pushes people to extremism and regrettable things like this happen.
Rest in peace to this victim, I hope the children recover with no sustaining injuries and I hope the ones who set off this explosive are locked in jail for life or even executed.
...the problem is, until eventual re-integration into Serbia, Kosovo has no justice system to persecute these criminals. EULEX/KFOR are biased and the KLA/KPS/ROSU or whatever you want to call the organ harvesters have no legitimacy on this earth.
Imagine if it was a Serb killed in this way?? Churking would ask for urgent meeting of UN SC.
While Govt in Prishtina does all she can to secure the return of those Serbs that left Kosova together with Milosevic’s criminal army, builds even houses for them there is NOT even ONE SINGLE attempt to return the Albanians in north which is predominantly Serb. Yet Serbs cry while Albanians cannot say even a word.
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
But if the victim had been a Serb, finger pointing would be allowed?
Rest in peace. I can't wait to hear how the serbs justify this terrorist attack. What else do you expect from the "dream minority" of europe where petrol bombing embassies, borders, and people is a common occurance?
Criminal thugs are trying to expel K-Albanians from northern Mitro, but they will not succeed.
Reading some report from different news site, it is being reported that Serbian thug has been putting pressure on this family to vacate the apartment so he can move in.
This is the ugly face of terrorism. Explosive device on the window of children’s bedroom, how low can this people go? Once again, this is a result of policies coming from Belgrade regime that still continues to support radical groups in order to achieve their goals.
Terrorism must be condemned in the strongest terms wherever it comes from. European Union (EU) candidate like Serbia shouldn’t be allowed to continue with the ideology of 1990s that resulted on genocide and millions of people displaced and ethnically cleansed.
EU should be very careful not to become complacent with Serbia transformation (progress). EU might be in financial difficulties now, but with the hard work EU nations will prevail.
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
Really?!?! Why NOW?!?!? You Serbian fingerpointers wet your pants when kids pelt rocks and denounce the whole Albanian nation. Now Serbs murderers a Albanian, father of two children and all what we can hear his is fingerpointing and the rest of the usual crap coming from you.
Rest in peace, Selver Haradinaj! Your death will not get unanswered.
Happy easter to all that are celebrating today. Sad news but it is going to be the new reality. This is Iva Dadic tryin to flame tensions again for his electoral benefit. He needs to have an unstable Kosovo in the north so he can campaign with it. It's his only card. For the Albanians it would be better if Dadic wins. It will consolidate the world view that Serbia will remain forever a dictatorial state and give more legitimacy to Kosovo.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
I almost feel sorry for you. Turning this terrorist act into hate and this coming from someone from the west is beyond belief.
(Mendo, 8 April 2012 14:03)
You really bought that exKfor is from the west, if he was ever associated with Kfor it was in the capacity of interpreter. He is as Serbian as one can get.
Terrible. The violence has to end. Unfortunately there is no end in sight as long as the common Kosovo Albanian supports the murderous terrorist KLA. This pushes people to extremism and regrettable things like this happen.
Rest in peace to this victim, I hope the children recover with no sustaining injuries and I hope the ones who set off this explosive are locked in jail for life or even executed.
...the problem is, until eventual re-integration into Serbia, Kosovo has no justice system to persecute these criminals. EULEX/KFOR are biased and the KLA/KPS/ROSU or whatever you want to call the organ harvesters have no legitimacy on this earth.
in 2004 Tri Solitera were the buildings usedd by UCK to sniper at both Serbs and KFOR troops - before they were liquidated from helicopters. ANd then illyrians threw self-made hand-grenades at our troops. this must be KiM Albanins`feud issue -but again, even if the explosive was left by KiM supressed minorities then they must look in the mirror - what goes around, comes around.
suggest to read 1987 NYT
The New York Times , November 1, 1987, Sunday, Late City Final Edition
SECTION: Section 1; Part 1, Page 14, Column 1; Foreign Desk
HEADLINE: In Yugoslavia, Rising Ethnic Strife Brings Fears of Worse Civil Conflict
Yes ecoman, you are right, we should not rush to judgement. perhaprs you want to remember that next time you read headlines lie 'serb beaten up in Kosova' or whatever
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
(Yet Another J S, 8 April 2012 15:03)
Sherlock Holmes solves the crime at the end of the movie, but you are unlike Shelock Holmes and manage to solve the crime at the beginning of the movie. So much for my movie ticket. What of waste of money! Will never see your movies again.
The problem is that the war is still on -- 1999 was a kind of forced cease-fire, of sorts. the west has never forced the blgrd regime to make peace with its neighbors, and in fact it has continued to fight a war against Bosnia and Kosova (lost the one w/ croatia), but by more "subtle" means.
when you have a dangerous delinquent on the block, you have to deal with them, not just close yr eyes and use pretty words...
the kind of terror we see, again and again, is a trickle down from the policies of serbia's elite, which has not altered in substance since the 90s.
as for their press -- read it and weep!
to the west, wake up!
rip to the family, of course, another needless tragedy. from hate to hate to hate...
EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
We don't have to join none of the above, since they joined us. But UN is little to short on his manpower or legitimacy in Kosova.I am surprised you failed to mention USA,which is the most reliable and trusted partner of Kosova.
for their press: even tragedy like this doesn't make it worth even for headline.
Serbs in Bosnia started a war because of a murder during a wedding, but bombing children’s bedroom is not worth even of headline- of course if the victim is not a Serb.
Europe: will be responsible one more time for another escalation of tensions and perhaps conflict in the region. The lack of firm and unambiguous condemnation of the "reciprocal arrests" by EU is SCANDAL and no one speaks about that. Not even ONE single journalist to ask Olli Rhen or other EU bureaucrats why they are not condemning such criminal act. EU is opening the Pandora’s box.
P.S. congrats to Ms Hartman that exposed Karl Bild's hypocrisy yesterday.
the way some serbs react to this says it all. No fingerpointing ...., excuse me, the next thing they will come up with is another conspiracy therory, and will claim that that Kosovars did that to hurt Serbia. What is wrong with you guys, learn that a lot of horrible things were done in the name of your country, face the reality, that everybody in the world knows, except for some nationalist serbs, who actully pose a threat to not just the region, but to the entire world. This has to end, once and for all!!!
Had the victim been Serb the headline would be smth like "Serb killed in an Albanian sorrunded neighborhood" "Serb family home bombed, 1 killed" etc etc... and UNSC would now have e meeting. But seeing what a coward Thaci is, this will go away as nothing special happend.
I really hope the perpetrators will be found and punished.
(EA, 8 April 2012 12:11)
Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation.
Kosovo independence is not going to happen
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
You may be right; we can’t know what is or is not going to happen 1000 or 1000000 years from now. But, yes, in the present Kosovo is already independent from Serbia and even Serbia admits that when it says that Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo.
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UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
What we know, thanks to Vuk, is that Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244. We also know that UN1244 says nowhere that Kosovo “is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations”. At least, not in the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish versions. Not sure about the Serbian one...
They will never win, they're only ensuring that Kosovo is left without Serbs. Just yesterday in Belgrade in less than 24 hours 4 Serbs committed suicide. This tells you what kind of people Serbs are. They did that during they Christian holidays. Nothing more says Christianity than committing suicide in holy days.
CG .....
you're a pseudo intellectual whose common sense is surmised of bigotry and hate. When you actually try to put down people by your derogatory comments, you just lose the respect of those around you. Soon everyone will start ignoring you altogether. But just keep in mind that things aren't so just because someone (as you) with no expertise on a subject attempts to bend the truth. But maybe you can't help it. Perhaps you're the "fool" who always has to say something.
Wow so much emotion and accusations, no evidence of anything, it could have been that this person owed money to the alb mafia, hence was liquidated.. The Serb has nothing to gain by murdering Albanians in the north, think about the old serb grannies living in isolated pockets sth of the Ibar, obviously no one can protect them.. Remember kfor only defends alb from Serb but turns an blind when in reverse! How many unsolved murders of Serbs are there? 1000 and counting? Anyway both alba and Serbs should renounce ethnic nationalism and get over this crap.. This whole Illyrian and Kosovo is serbia rubbish has screwed peoples mind.. People are so mindless!
If a Serb gets hurt, Serbian politicians jump out of their holes and blame the whole Albanian nation for it, no making a difference whether it was a ethnic or a simple criminal background. In fact, all what matters to them is the ethnicity of the victim, not the circumstances.
Here we see an obvious terrorist attack on a family and a bomb in the window of a kid's bedroom. There is no assurance yet who it was (thought it is not hard to guess), but it would still require at least the condemnation from Serbian politicians. But look at this, nothing. Very interestig, when you recall that Dacic and Co. insist that Kosovo is Serbian and so the people Serbian citizens.
Say what you what you want, but this day showed us again how the people feel and think.
My condolences to the family and their tragici and unforgiving loss.
I am not sure whether you are a German(normally Albanians on this site claim to be Westerners to show us Serbs how ordnary Westerners are supposedly disgusted by Serbs)
But even if you are:
You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe,they enthusiastically massacred their Serbian neighbours in cities like Pancevo,Zrenjanin and Novi Sad and they even took part in killing Serbs throughout Yugoslavia and militarily insuring that Croat Ustashas could kill as much Serb civilians as possible...
Oh and for that blaming thing,how did WW2 start?
Yep,it was Germany soldiers killing Poles and giving them fake German uniforms to show to the world how allegedly the Poles were the agressors,not the Germans!
This same thing happening today in Kosovo!
My point is:
You can lie and distort the facts as much as you want:
Serbs would be insane in NM to start a war by killing unarmed Albanains,they have no interest in it!
And the bigger picture,and that is once and for all:
IT WAS NOT SERB CHRISTIANS INVADING ALBANIA AND CLAIMING TOWNS LIKE SKUTARI OR TIRANA !
THIS IS WHEN IT COULD BE CALLED A GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION!
BUT IT WAS ALBANIAN MUSLIMS INVADING SERBIA GRADUALLY AND CLAIMING PRISTINA,PRIZREN,K.MITROVICA TO SPLIT AND UNITE WITH ALBANIA WHICH ARE TOWNS IN THE RECOGNIZED BORDERS OF SERBIA !
THAT MEANS IT IS A CASE OF GREATER ALBANIAN AGRESSION!!!!!!!!!
SERBIA CANNOT MAKE A "GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION "ON ITS OWN TERRITORY!
SO STOP LYING AND DISTORTING!!!
There will be a reckoning day and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,I don`t consider them citizens of Serbia anymore,if over 30 recognized minorities can live without problems in Serbia what is the problem with Albanians?
Why are they always "mistreated" while no other minority complains?
It is because they are on a mission ,they want to steal others people territory and make it 100% ethnically theirs!
Each Islamic nation does that when it comes in contact with Christians!
That is the truth and all reasonable Westerners(I dont count Willi into it) will agree with it.regardless what they are forced to do by their "decision makers"...
So keep whining that your brain washing doesn`t work with me nor with other Serbs and an increasing number of folks in the West who are with anger and disgust seeing what their "elite" is doing knowing very will that it will transcent into Western countries too!
You lot really are crazy, you're blaming an uncommon, single, (yet still tragic) murder committed by one person (and we dont know if he was a Serb) collectively onto an entire race, dont you know how genocides start?
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:59)
Says the troll that wishes for Oluja in the north.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
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This is exactly what I want to say to Roberto too.
Bulgar,this has not so much to do with "Kosovo is Serbia" nationalism but with the fight between a democratic,Western and Christian society like Serbia against an evil ideology that combines Islamism and Albanian fascism!
Everyone concerned in the fight against tyranny should uncompromisingly take the side of Serbia because a win of Albanian Islamofascism in Kosovo would have terrible consequences:
- Greater Albanian asprations against Central Serbia,Macedonia,Montenegro and even Greece would radicalize
- Muslim extremists throughout Europe and America would become radicalized because of an example where it actually "worked" to turn a part of Europe from a "non believing" to a "believing " territory
- a reward for all future agressors in the form of a shattered international law
It would be like Hitler standing up from the grave and say: I won!
Serbia is fighting the fight for the survival of Western values,it is time for the Western elites to get rid of the Islamic fifthcolumnists in their ranks and join us!
If we can all be honest, then we need to say that we do not know who is responsible, and what the motive is.
That having been said; there are three things that are needed for a crime, and they, are: Motive, Means, and Opportunity.
The Motives of the Terrorist KLA are known, and it is recorded that they have murdered Albanians if it will further their cause.
We know that ROSU has came in Uniform to North Kosovo, but being in Uniform makes them easy to detect, and carrying rifles can make them at target of those who want to protect themselves from Terrorists.
It is documented that Specially Trained Albanians can the Administrative Line between Serbia, and it Province of Kosovo, as was shown by the recently arrested, charged, and released Albanian Police.
It is easier for Albanian Terrorists to work in Civilian Clothing, and to use explosives as their weapons for their unjust cause of an independent Kosovo.
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
Albanians killing each other and Albanian nationalists using it for preparing a new progrom upon the Serbs in Kosovo!Like they did in 2004!
The West must stand up to the Greater Albanians fascism immediately,and to its supporters like roberto at home!
They kidnapped the Western foreign policy in the 90s and look what they have done by trying to appease Islamism in the Middle East by throwing the Serbian Christian people to the Islamic wulf!
Kosovo must be transferred back to Serbian control and Albanians would have to choices:
Respect Serbia as a country or get hell out,no more Albanian islamofascism in Serbia!
Kosovo independence is not going to happen,UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
People like Roberto are disgusting for jumping to conclusions. Considering last month in South Mitro there were 3 different shootings of Albanians BY Albanians resulting in 7 people shot.
Not a word by Roberto then because the perps were all caught. Could this bombing be in retaliation? Sure. Just as likely as if a Serb did it.
Here is but one link about those shootings that no one could blame Serbs for:
Albanians are well known for killing their own and blaming the Serbs. this is typical of their cowardly actions. I hope the Albanians who committed this crime are captured and brought to justice.
...and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,...
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
There is a lot of right wing crap in your hate post, but I will point out this one. Can explain in what relation stays this message of yours of the terrorist bombing on a family father and his children? You claim that it would be insane for Serbs to attack Albanians, but promises (better said wishes) in future another genocide attempt.
You just gave a shining example why it so violently ended for many Serbs in all parts of former Yugoslavia. May God have mercy with your Satanist and hate-filled soul which itches for the death of families and their kids.
It's no wonder that the Balkans are a giant cyst of unnecessary and down-right hilarious hatred when a terrible attack on a member of one ethnicity is automatically blamed upon the other one. Reading some of these comments genuinely makes me a bit irritated; who knows whether it was truly a Serb who did this? Given Albanians' notorious culture of infighting (which Albanians have admitted to themselves), is it not possible AT ALL that this could be the result of some silly, out-of-hand familial squabble between two Albanian families/people? No amount of circumstantial evidence picked up from this article alone can automatically lead people to assume, without further thought, that "OMG BELGRADE-BACKED SERBIAN TERRORISTS DID THIS". LOL. Even if that were true, do you guys really think that, in an election campaign, any Serbian political parties would want to be associated with the bombing of an innocent person who hasn't done anything to harm Serbia or Serbs?
The morons who are making those comments would be crucified in a courtroom. But, maybe in the kangaroo courts of Kosovo/a, you guys would be considered prime witnesses, since you can automatically pinpoint Genericoslav Serbiannameovic as the perpetrator of this attack!
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39
Well, I am as much troll as KiM Albanians peace-loving, multiculturalist and democratic people...name calling does not change the facts. I was in KiM, not as interpreter, and believe, the Serbs are much more europeans than Albanians are. by the way Kelmendi -many of your clanmembers got killed by UCK, didn`t you know that?
Nikolle, thank you v. much - I personally did not keep VSCG back - they just respected the agreements they had signed for - unlike KFOR who has always been biased( or COs giving in to their venal politicians`pressure). Yes I recall, there were some Swedish people who out of justice passed some info to Serbs (what they were entitled to) - those were real europeans - others of us just made in KiM money and discussed quietly things I am posting here...but for the criminals the truth is what they have created for themselves...and for KiM Albanians it is that they were persecuted and that they so much have desired multiethnic Kosovo - you are worse of nationalists I have ever seen- and that at the expense of your hospitable neighbors (who finally had no other choice but follow your modus operandi).
So Ottoman Albanians - learn from history - one day obviously will be a reckoning day, and as you do not care other ethnic groups` children then why should other care of yours? Why have, for instance, Romas not returned to Roma Mahalla - yes, because this your true nature...ethnic cleansers and Albanian supremacists - right?
First fix your own affairs S of Ibar and show that you are better off than Serbs, and stop for a while war mongering, land-grabbing and preaching how "cultural" you are...so far not even your motherland Albania has managed to do it despite not being "supressed" by Serbs!
Let's review the report. The "regional representative" says the bomb was place on the window of a ground floor apartment. How was it fused? Why wasn't the bomb thrown through the window into the apartment? Why just place it on the window sill? There was one person killed and two wounded. How could a bomb placed on a window sill kill anyone at all? They would have to be right next to the window. There were six people in the apartment.
We don't know who was killed, but let us guess that it was the man who was killed. If so, it is more likely that the man was building a bomb and it went off. In an apartment we have a living room, a kitchen and two bedrooms. If the bomb was placed on a window then somebody must have been sitting very close to the window to be killed.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
AFter reading your post I cannot possibly imagine why any Albanian would not feel perfectly welcome in Serbia.
If only the love oozing from your post could be captured by Hallmark!
"Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 April 2012 17:57)
Unfortunately, there are groups on both sides who deliberately want further destabilization and think they would benefit from it instead of trying to improve the weak status quo.
Or you forget about conspiracy theories and it might be as simple as a Serb killing some unwanted Albanian neighbor, or an Albanian from a another clan killing some rivals, all possible in this democratic, multi-ethnic dream state of Kosovo.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
(Paul, 8 April 2012 22:45)
You are utterly wrong and this can explained with this picture:
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
"You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe"
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:5)
Yes, it was like that, in WW2, but why go back that long? For similar reasons, there are almost no Serbs in Krajina living any more nowadays.
I expect your jokes of donkeys and kidneys. Btw. SRECAN USKRS!
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:42
Not on this one, it could be anything either way and not a good subject of jokes. Who did it should rot in jail. Reading all the comments here is no joy and no fun.
I like the HVG.HU but it is rather anti-Serb. Given that they very quickly submitted the news:
the perpetraters are most likely Serbs, even that they write "the motives are unknown". I would wait and see, there is no such thing as "most likely guilty", gut feelings are not jurrors or judges.
RIP to the victim, the donkeys and kidneys went into other threads for you to enjoy THERE, here it's 100% inapropriate.
You are again so wrong. Just look at the metal frame at left side. It is melted at the edge, something what you will see nowhere else. It means that there was a heat source which was strong enough to melt down metal but only at this point. That is the source of the bomb. You can also see bomb scars going from it in a concentric way. There is no chance that this could have happen from the side.
You also did not mention the fact which I stated yesterday, such as a) the metal frame, punctually destroyed at the left side of this window and b) the fact that the (blue) wall inside the room shows no sign of any shrapnel holes. An explosion from inside what have teared it apart, leaving a Swiss cheese of the wall.
It makes the conclusion perfect. It was a terrorist attack, likely with an ethnic background. The family has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
No bomb is ever capable of melting anything.
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(Paul, 10 April 2012 22:59)
So wrong again, my Serbian denier. The explosion of C4 creates an exothermic gas reaction with the velocity of 8000 meters (!) per second. Metals with low melting points (such as aluminium frames) simply fold away, with those parts which are close enough to be melted away, but not because of the heat created by the explosion but of the highly dynamic and fast deformation.
Exactly because of that reaction, it is absolutely normal not to see extensive remains of an fire, but sheer destruction. I told you already that there are pretty obvious explosion patterns right under the explosion point. No fire brigade would cause that scars. It was a bomb right on top of the window frame. You also still failed to comment my previous points, marked with a) and b) in my previous post, but I'm sure that nothing will come from you.
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
(Commentator, 9 April 2012 01:44)
The picture proves my point. Notice the complete absence of burn marks anywhere on the bottom of the window frame. Notice that the frame on the right is complete intact and unscarred, but even so, the window glass is gone. The marks on the window sill, especially the damage done to the concrete on the left are not the work of a bomb, but were done later.
Notice the burn marks on the central beam in the window. You can clearly see that the scorching on them did not come from the side and outside, but in fact came from inside. There is also charring along the top of the window suggesting that the inside of the apartment spent some time burning, something that could not have happened if the bomb had been on the window sill.
Yes. Without a doubt, it was an Albanian bomb builder, cooking up something for Serbs while his wife and four kids were in the apartment with him. And it went off accidentally.
But that doesn't matter, the Serbs will be blamed anyway. What else are they going to do? Albanian Kosovo is violent, corrupt and without a future. They have no vocation except to kill, maim and persecute.
No bomb is ever capable of melting anything. That's just absurd. And how could it be hot enough to melt something without scorching anything else? And you can't see enough of the wall in the background to determine whether it was damaged or not. We don't even know if the room and window we are looking at in the image had anything to do with the explosion at all. The window looks like it was smashed by a fire response team to get inside and put fires out. It doesn't look like it had anything to do with an explosion at all.
Terrible. The violence has to end. Unfortunately there is no end in sight as long as the common Kosovo Albanian supports the murderous terrorist KLA. This pushes people to extremism and regrettable things like this happen.
Rest in peace to this victim, I hope the children recover with no sustaining injuries and I hope the ones who set off this explosive are locked in jail for life or even executed.
...the problem is, until eventual re-integration into Serbia, Kosovo has no justice system to persecute these criminals. EULEX/KFOR are biased and the KLA/KPS/ROSU or whatever you want to call the organ harvesters have no legitimacy on this earth.
in 2004 Tri Solitera were the buildings usedd by UCK to sniper at both Serbs and KFOR troops - before they were liquidated from helicopters. ANd then illyrians threw self-made hand-grenades at our troops. this must be KiM Albanins`feud issue -but again, even if the explosive was left by KiM supressed minorities then they must look in the mirror - what goes around, comes around.
suggest to read 1987 NYT
The New York Times , November 1, 1987, Sunday, Late City Final Edition
SECTION: Section 1; Part 1, Page 14, Column 1; Foreign Desk
HEADLINE: In Yugoslavia, Rising Ethnic Strife Brings Fears of Worse Civil Conflict
If we can all be honest, then we need to say that we do not know who is responsible, and what the motive is.
That having been said; there are three things that are needed for a crime, and they, are: Motive, Means, and Opportunity.
The Motives of the Terrorist KLA are known, and it is recorded that they have murdered Albanians if it will further their cause.
We know that ROSU has came in Uniform to North Kosovo, but being in Uniform makes them easy to detect, and carrying rifles can make them at target of those who want to protect themselves from Terrorists.
It is documented that Specially Trained Albanians can the Administrative Line between Serbia, and it Province of Kosovo, as was shown by the recently arrested, charged, and released Albanian Police.
It is easier for Albanian Terrorists to work in Civilian Clothing, and to use explosives as their weapons for their unjust cause of an independent Kosovo.
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
Wow so much emotion and accusations, no evidence of anything, it could have been that this person owed money to the alb mafia, hence was liquidated.. The Serb has nothing to gain by murdering Albanians in the north, think about the old serb grannies living in isolated pockets sth of the Ibar, obviously no one can protect them.. Remember kfor only defends alb from Serb but turns an blind when in reverse! How many unsolved murders of Serbs are there? 1000 and counting? Anyway both alba and Serbs should renounce ethnic nationalism and get over this crap.. This whole Illyrian and Kosovo is serbia rubbish has screwed peoples mind.. People are so mindless!
Bulgar,this has not so much to do with "Kosovo is Serbia" nationalism but with the fight between a democratic,Western and Christian society like Serbia against an evil ideology that combines Islamism and Albanian fascism!
Everyone concerned in the fight against tyranny should uncompromisingly take the side of Serbia because a win of Albanian Islamofascism in Kosovo would have terrible consequences:
- Greater Albanian asprations against Central Serbia,Macedonia,Montenegro and even Greece would radicalize
- Muslim extremists throughout Europe and America would become radicalized because of an example where it actually "worked" to turn a part of Europe from a "non believing" to a "believing " territory
- a reward for all future agressors in the form of a shattered international law
It would be like Hitler standing up from the grave and say: I won!
Serbia is fighting the fight for the survival of Western values,it is time for the Western elites to get rid of the Islamic fifthcolumnists in their ranks and join us!
Albanians killing each other and Albanian nationalists using it for preparing a new progrom upon the Serbs in Kosovo!Like they did in 2004!
The West must stand up to the Greater Albanians fascism immediately,and to its supporters like roberto at home!
They kidnapped the Western foreign policy in the 90s and look what they have done by trying to appease Islamism in the Middle East by throwing the Serbian Christian people to the Islamic wulf!
Kosovo must be transferred back to Serbian control and Albanians would have to choices:
Respect Serbia as a country or get hell out,no more Albanian islamofascism in Serbia!
Kosovo independence is not going to happen,UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
Albanians are well known for killing their own and blaming the Serbs. this is typical of their cowardly actions. I hope the Albanians who committed this crime are captured and brought to justice.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39
Well, I am as much troll as KiM Albanians peace-loving, multiculturalist and democratic people...name calling does not change the facts. I was in KiM, not as interpreter, and believe, the Serbs are much more europeans than Albanians are. by the way Kelmendi -many of your clanmembers got killed by UCK, didn`t you know that?
Nikolle, thank you v. much - I personally did not keep VSCG back - they just respected the agreements they had signed for - unlike KFOR who has always been biased( or COs giving in to their venal politicians`pressure). Yes I recall, there were some Swedish people who out of justice passed some info to Serbs (what they were entitled to) - those were real europeans - others of us just made in KiM money and discussed quietly things I am posting here...but for the criminals the truth is what they have created for themselves...and for KiM Albanians it is that they were persecuted and that they so much have desired multiethnic Kosovo - you are worse of nationalists I have ever seen- and that at the expense of your hospitable neighbors (who finally had no other choice but follow your modus operandi).
So Ottoman Albanians - learn from history - one day obviously will be a reckoning day, and as you do not care other ethnic groups` children then why should other care of yours? Why have, for instance, Romas not returned to Roma Mahalla - yes, because this your true nature...ethnic cleansers and Albanian supremacists - right?
First fix your own affairs S of Ibar and show that you are better off than Serbs, and stop for a while war mongering, land-grabbing and preaching how "cultural" you are...so far not even your motherland Albania has managed to do it despite not being "supressed" by Serbs!
Imagine if it was a Serb killed in this way?? Churking would ask for urgent meeting of UN SC.
While Govt in Prishtina does all she can to secure the return of those Serbs that left Kosova together with Milosevic’s criminal army, builds even houses for them there is NOT even ONE SINGLE attempt to return the Albanians in north which is predominantly Serb. Yet Serbs cry while Albanians cannot say even a word.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
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This is exactly what I want to say to Roberto too.
Rest in peace. I can't wait to hear how the serbs justify this terrorist attack. What else do you expect from the "dream minority" of europe where petrol bombing embassies, borders, and people is a common occurance?
Let's review the report. The "regional representative" says the bomb was place on the window of a ground floor apartment. How was it fused? Why wasn't the bomb thrown through the window into the apartment? Why just place it on the window sill? There was one person killed and two wounded. How could a bomb placed on a window sill kill anyone at all? They would have to be right next to the window. There were six people in the apartment.
We don't know who was killed, but let us guess that it was the man who was killed. If so, it is more likely that the man was building a bomb and it went off. In an apartment we have a living room, a kitchen and two bedrooms. If the bomb was placed on a window then somebody must have been sitting very close to the window to be killed.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
I am not sure whether you are a German(normally Albanians on this site claim to be Westerners to show us Serbs how ordnary Westerners are supposedly disgusted by Serbs)
But even if you are:
You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe,they enthusiastically massacred their Serbian neighbours in cities like Pancevo,Zrenjanin and Novi Sad and they even took part in killing Serbs throughout Yugoslavia and militarily insuring that Croat Ustashas could kill as much Serb civilians as possible...
Oh and for that blaming thing,how did WW2 start?
Yep,it was Germany soldiers killing Poles and giving them fake German uniforms to show to the world how allegedly the Poles were the agressors,not the Germans!
This same thing happening today in Kosovo!
My point is:
You can lie and distort the facts as much as you want:
Serbs would be insane in NM to start a war by killing unarmed Albanains,they have no interest in it!
And the bigger picture,and that is once and for all:
IT WAS NOT SERB CHRISTIANS INVADING ALBANIA AND CLAIMING TOWNS LIKE SKUTARI OR TIRANA !
THIS IS WHEN IT COULD BE CALLED A GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION!
BUT IT WAS ALBANIAN MUSLIMS INVADING SERBIA GRADUALLY AND CLAIMING PRISTINA,PRIZREN,K.MITROVICA TO SPLIT AND UNITE WITH ALBANIA WHICH ARE TOWNS IN THE RECOGNIZED BORDERS OF SERBIA !
THAT MEANS IT IS A CASE OF GREATER ALBANIAN AGRESSION!!!!!!!!!
SERBIA CANNOT MAKE A "GREATER SERBIAN AGRESSION "ON ITS OWN TERRITORY!
SO STOP LYING AND DISTORTING!!!
There will be a reckoning day and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,I don`t consider them citizens of Serbia anymore,if over 30 recognized minorities can live without problems in Serbia what is the problem with Albanians?
Why are they always "mistreated" while no other minority complains?
It is because they are on a mission ,they want to steal others people territory and make it 100% ethnically theirs!
Each Islamic nation does that when it comes in contact with Christians!
That is the truth and all reasonable Westerners(I dont count Willi into it) will agree with it.regardless what they are forced to do by their "decision makers"...
So keep whining that your brain washing doesn`t work with me nor with other Serbs and an increasing number of folks in the West who are with anger and disgust seeing what their "elite" is doing knowing very will that it will transcent into Western countries too!
You lot really are crazy, you're blaming an uncommon, single, (yet still tragic) murder committed by one person (and we dont know if he was a Serb) collectively onto an entire race, dont you know how genocides start?
People like Roberto are disgusting for jumping to conclusions. Considering last month in South Mitro there were 3 different shootings of Albanians BY Albanians resulting in 7 people shot.
Not a word by Roberto then because the perps were all caught. Could this bombing be in retaliation? Sure. Just as likely as if a Serb did it.
Here is but one link about those shootings that no one could blame Serbs for:
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
But if the victim had been a Serb, finger pointing would be allowed?
There can absolutely no finger pointing regarding this case until further information is known and provided. Happy Easter to all that celebrate today.
(ecoman, 8 April 2012 12:27)
Really?!?! Why NOW?!?!? You Serbian fingerpointers wet your pants when kids pelt rocks and denounce the whole Albanian nation. Now Serbs murderers a Albanian, father of two children and all what we can hear his is fingerpointing and the rest of the usual crap coming from you.
Rest in peace, Selver Haradinaj! Your death will not get unanswered.
The problem is that the war is still on -- 1999 was a kind of forced cease-fire, of sorts. the west has never forced the blgrd regime to make peace with its neighbors, and in fact it has continued to fight a war against Bosnia and Kosova (lost the one w/ croatia), but by more "subtle" means.
when you have a dangerous delinquent on the block, you have to deal with them, not just close yr eyes and use pretty words...
the kind of terror we see, again and again, is a trickle down from the policies of serbia's elite, which has not altered in substance since the 90s.
as for their press -- read it and weep!
to the west, wake up!
rip to the family, of course, another needless tragedy. from hate to hate to hate...
Criminal thugs are trying to expel K-Albanians from northern Mitro, but they will not succeed.
Reading some report from different news site, it is being reported that Serbian thug has been putting pressure on this family to vacate the apartment so he can move in.
You are the most despicable troll on this site. Is beyond belief that your comments are posted
(Agim Kelmendi, 8 April 2012 13:39)
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
It's no wonder that the Balkans are a giant cyst of unnecessary and down-right hilarious hatred when a terrible attack on a member of one ethnicity is automatically blamed upon the other one. Reading some of these comments genuinely makes me a bit irritated; who knows whether it was truly a Serb who did this? Given Albanians' notorious culture of infighting (which Albanians have admitted to themselves), is it not possible AT ALL that this could be the result of some silly, out-of-hand familial squabble between two Albanian families/people? No amount of circumstantial evidence picked up from this article alone can automatically lead people to assume, without further thought, that "OMG BELGRADE-BACKED SERBIAN TERRORISTS DID THIS". LOL. Even if that were true, do you guys really think that, in an election campaign, any Serbian political parties would want to be associated with the bombing of an innocent person who hasn't done anything to harm Serbia or Serbs?
The morons who are making those comments would be crucified in a courtroom. But, maybe in the kangaroo courts of Kosovo/a, you guys would be considered prime witnesses, since you can automatically pinpoint Genericoslav Serbiannameovic as the perpetrator of this attack!
They will never win, they're only ensuring that Kosovo is left without Serbs. Just yesterday in Belgrade in less than 24 hours 4 Serbs committed suicide. This tells you what kind of people Serbs are. They did that during they Christian holidays. Nothing more says Christianity than committing suicide in holy days.
Happy easter to all that are celebrating today. Sad news but it is going to be the new reality. This is Iva Dadic tryin to flame tensions again for his electoral benefit. He needs to have an unstable Kosovo in the north so he can campaign with it. It's his only card. For the Albanians it would be better if Dadic wins. It will consolidate the world view that Serbia will remain forever a dictatorial state and give more legitimacy to Kosovo.
Let him, the world needs to know that there are also those Serb-loving Anders Breiviks out there. He is a troll by a definition and does not have honor.
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:59)
Says the troll that wishes for Oluja in the north.
This is the ugly face of terrorism. Explosive device on the window of children’s bedroom, how low can this people go? Once again, this is a result of policies coming from Belgrade regime that still continues to support radical groups in order to achieve their goals.
Terrorism must be condemned in the strongest terms wherever it comes from. European Union (EU) candidate like Serbia shouldn’t be allowed to continue with the ideology of 1990s that resulted on genocide and millions of people displaced and ethnically cleansed.
EU should be very careful not to become complacent with Serbia transformation (progress). EU might be in financial difficulties now, but with the hard work EU nations will prevail.
Yes ecoman, you are right, we should not rush to judgement. perhaprs you want to remember that next time you read headlines lie 'serb beaten up in Kosova' or whatever
EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
We don't have to join none of the above, since they joined us. But UN is little to short on his manpower or legitimacy in Kosova.I am surprised you failed to mention USA,which is the most reliable and trusted partner of Kosova.
"Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation."
(Balkan Anthropologist, 8 April 2012 17:57)
Unfortunately, there are groups on both sides who deliberately want further destabilization and think they would benefit from it instead of trying to improve the weak status quo.
Or you forget about conspiracy theories and it might be as simple as a Serb killing some unwanted Albanian neighbor, or an Albanian from a another clan killing some rivals, all possible in this democratic, multi-ethnic dream state of Kosovo.
for their press: even tragedy like this doesn't make it worth even for headline.
Serbs in Bosnia started a war because of a murder during a wedding, but bombing children’s bedroom is not worth even of headline- of course if the victim is not a Serb.
Europe: will be responsible one more time for another escalation of tensions and perhaps conflict in the region. The lack of firm and unambiguous condemnation of the "reciprocal arrests" by EU is SCANDAL and no one speaks about that. Not even ONE single journalist to ask Olli Rhen or other EU bureaucrats why they are not condemning such criminal act. EU is opening the Pandora’s box.
P.S. congrats to Ms Hartman that exposed Karl Bild's hypocrisy yesterday.
I do not discount the possibility of other Ethnicities, who is a Mercenary and might be working for the CIA, for France, or for Germany, but the Authorities in Pristina are the most likely suspects, because they want to prevent Local Elections in Kosovo.
(Yet Another J S, 8 April 2012 15:03)
Sherlock Holmes solves the crime at the end of the movie, but you are unlike Shelock Holmes and manage to solve the crime at the beginning of the movie. So much for my movie ticket. What of waste of money! Will never see your movies again.
CG .....
you're a pseudo intellectual whose common sense is surmised of bigotry and hate. When you actually try to put down people by your derogatory comments, you just lose the respect of those around you. Soon everyone will start ignoring you altogether. But just keep in mind that things aren't so just because someone (as you) with no expertise on a subject attempts to bend the truth. But maybe you can't help it. Perhaps you're the "fool" who always has to say something.
the way some serbs react to this says it all. No fingerpointing ...., excuse me, the next thing they will come up with is another conspiracy therory, and will claim that that Kosovars did that to hurt Serbia. What is wrong with you guys, learn that a lot of horrible things were done in the name of your country, face the reality, that everybody in the world knows, except for some nationalist serbs, who actully pose a threat to not just the region, but to the entire world. This has to end, once and for all!!!
Had the victim been Serb the headline would be smth like "Serb killed in an Albanian sorrunded neighborhood" "Serb family home bombed, 1 killed" etc etc... and UNSC would now have e meeting. But seeing what a coward Thaci is, this will go away as nothing special happend.
I expect your jokes of donkeys and kidneys. Btw. SRECAN USKRS!
(Berk., 8 April 2012 13:42
Not on this one, it could be anything either way and not a good subject of jokes. Who did it should rot in jail. Reading all the comments here is no joy and no fun.
I like the HVG.HU but it is rather anti-Serb. Given that they very quickly submitted the news:
the perpetraters are most likely Serbs, even that they write "the motives are unknown". I would wait and see, there is no such thing as "most likely guilty", gut feelings are not jurrors or judges.
RIP to the victim, the donkeys and kidneys went into other threads for you to enjoy THERE, here it's 100% inapropriate.
I almost feel sorry for you. Turning this terrorist act into hate and this coming from someone from the west is beyond belief.
(Mendo, 8 April 2012 14:03)
You really bought that exKfor is from the west, if he was ever associated with Kfor it was in the capacity of interpreter. He is as Serbian as one can get.
Kosovo independence is not going to happen
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
You may be right; we can’t know what is or is not going to happen 1000 or 1000000 years from now. But, yes, in the present Kosovo is already independent from Serbia and even Serbia admits that when it says that Serbia is not in charge in Kosovo.
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UN1244 says it is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations because they have been recognzed by the world community as thugs and criminals!
(CG, 8 April 2012 15:31)
What we know, thanks to Vuk, is that Kosovo's UDI is in accordance with 1244. We also know that UN1244 says nowhere that Kosovo “is part of Serbia and they never will join the EU,NATO or UN or any other international organizations”. At least, not in the Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish versions. Not sure about the Serbian one...
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
(Commentator, 9 April 2012 01:44)
The picture proves my point. Notice the complete absence of burn marks anywhere on the bottom of the window frame. Notice that the frame on the right is complete intact and unscarred, but even so, the window glass is gone. The marks on the window sill, especially the damage done to the concrete on the left are not the work of a bomb, but were done later.
Notice the burn marks on the central beam in the window. You can clearly see that the scorching on them did not come from the side and outside, but in fact came from inside. There is also charring along the top of the window suggesting that the inside of the apartment spent some time burning, something that could not have happened if the bomb had been on the window sill.
Yes. Without a doubt, it was an Albanian bomb builder, cooking up something for Serbs while his wife and four kids were in the apartment with him. And it went off accidentally.
But that doesn't matter, the Serbs will be blamed anyway. What else are they going to do? Albanian Kosovo is violent, corrupt and without a future. They have no vocation except to kill, maim and persecute.
If a Serb gets hurt, Serbian politicians jump out of their holes and blame the whole Albanian nation for it, no making a difference whether it was a ethnic or a simple criminal background. In fact, all what matters to them is the ethnicity of the victim, not the circumstances.
Here we see an obvious terrorist attack on a family and a bomb in the window of a kid's bedroom. There is no assurance yet who it was (thought it is not hard to guess), but it would still require at least the condemnation from Serbian politicians. But look at this, nothing. Very interestig, when you recall that Dacic and Co. insist that Kosovo is Serbian and so the people Serbian citizens.
Say what you what you want, but this day showed us again how the people feel and think.
My condolences to the family and their tragici and unforgiving loss.
No bomb is ever capable of melting anything. That's just absurd. And how could it be hot enough to melt something without scorching anything else? And you can't see enough of the wall in the background to determine whether it was damaged or not. We don't even know if the room and window we are looking at in the image had anything to do with the explosion at all. The window looks like it was smashed by a fire response team to get inside and put fires out. It doesn't look like it had anything to do with an explosion at all.
I really hope the perpetrators will be found and punished.
(EA, 8 April 2012 12:11)
Exactly. I rarely agree with you but this is the best post for this article. If it's a Serb or Albanian they risk destabilizing an already unstable situation.
"You know what the reason is no Germans reside in Vojvodina today?
There were 600000 of them!
You know why?
Because they behaved pretty much the same way like the Albanians today:
They ignored and hated the state of Serbia,once Hitlers troops came in they had the highest concscription rate in the Waffen SS in all German territories in Europe"
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:5)
Yes, it was like that, in WW2, but why go back that long? For similar reasons, there are almost no Serbs in Krajina living any more nowadays.
...and Albanians will end up the very same way your Germans in Vojvodina did,...
(CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
There is a lot of right wing crap in your hate post, but I will point out this one. Can explain in what relation stays this message of yours of the terrorist bombing on a family father and his children? You claim that it would be insane for Serbs to attack Albanians, but promises (better said wishes) in future another genocide attempt.
You just gave a shining example why it so violently ended for many Serbs in all parts of former Yugoslavia. May God have mercy with your Satanist and hate-filled soul which itches for the death of families and their kids.
The type of injuries involved in this case will point to an inescapable conclusion. Given that in the area, bomb attacks are always the work of Albanians, it is most likely that it was a bomb builder whose work went bad and nothing more.
(Paul, 8 April 2012 22:45)
You are utterly wrong and this can explained with this picture:
As you can see, the frame of the window has been devastated only at a certain area. That can only happen if the explosion happened at this punctual area. If the explosion took place within the room, the explosion pattern would be completely different. The frame would most likely even outlasted it. The destruction inside the room would way bigger (look at the walls inside, almost no shrapnel holes).
The remains tell us that the explosive device was exactly were it has been reported, at the window, making it unquestionable clear that it was a bomb attack against that family. The motives have also been told here. The Albanian has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
CG, 8 April 2012 21:52)
AFter reading your post I cannot possibly imagine why any Albanian would not feel perfectly welcome in Serbia.
If only the love oozing from your post could be captured by Hallmark!
You are again so wrong. Just look at the metal frame at left side. It is melted at the edge, something what you will see nowhere else. It means that there was a heat source which was strong enough to melt down metal but only at this point. That is the source of the bomb. You can also see bomb scars going from it in a concentric way. There is no chance that this could have happen from the side.
You also did not mention the fact which I stated yesterday, such as a) the metal frame, punctually destroyed at the left side of this window and b) the fact that the (blue) wall inside the room shows no sign of any shrapnel holes. An explosion from inside what have teared it apart, leaving a Swiss cheese of the wall.
It makes the conclusion perfect. It was a terrorist attack, likely with an ethnic background. The family has been intimidated to leave and didn't comply.
No bomb is ever capable of melting anything.
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(Paul, 10 April 2012 22:59)
So wrong again, my Serbian denier. The explosion of C4 creates an exothermic gas reaction with the velocity of 8000 meters (!) per second. Metals with low melting points (such as aluminium frames) simply fold away, with those parts which are close enough to be melted away, but not because of the heat created by the explosion but of the highly dynamic and fast deformation.
Exactly because of that reaction, it is absolutely normal not to see extensive remains of an fire, but sheer destruction. I told you already that there are pretty obvious explosion patterns right under the explosion point. No fire brigade would cause that scars. It was a bomb right on top of the window frame. You also still failed to comment my previous points, marked with a) and b) in my previous post, but I'm sure that nothing will come from you.
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