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EU has double standards in Kosovo, IM says

Serbia’s Interior Minister Ivica Dačić has said that the latest couple of incidents in Kosovo show a lack of will in Priština to solve the problem peacefully.

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Edon Gojani

pre 12 godina

"To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not?"

I understand if there were a few bad apples in Belgrade that day, but that happens. Having marines stationed there at the time, and taking the life of a boy that day isn't a crime it seems. Anyway - would you consider NATO's aggression in 1999 civilized? I lost a family member in a refugee convoy on the way to Kukes thanks to America's humanitarian bombing. Yeah, the Balkan "powder keg" is barbaric, uncivilized, while America flourishes with democracy.

Kiko

pre 12 godina

To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not? And is it any different than the stone throwing by people who have fresh memories of the war?

My opinion on my first question is that the incident seemed as how the Arab world reacted to the Mohammed cartoon drawings and totally uncivilized and Serbia is in Europe! And to my second ? People on both sides haven't come to forgiveness of past acts of Milosevic and not all Serbs are the same as he and not all Albanians are mafia types, drug smugglers, etc. as a lot of Serbs imply.

Statistically bc of the population size of each region or territory there would be more of the latter in Serbia proper and if you still consider Kosovo/a part of Serbia then all these criminals are Serbian. Since they all live in Serbia. Henceforth all people of the state of Serbia are criminals irregardless of ethnicity but based on territory and citizenship! And all are uncivilized people including the politician in the article!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.
(Zoran, 7 April 2012 00:08)


From wikipedia: "The Court was established by Resolution 827 of the United Nations Security Council, which was passed on 25 May 1993. It has jurisdiction over four clusters of crimes committed on the territory of the former Yugoslavia since 1991: grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, violations of the laws or customs of war, genocide, and crimes against humanity. The maximum sentence it can impose is life imprisonment. Various countries have signed agreements with the UN to carry out custodial sentences."

Or do you mean that more than 75% of the whole UN budget is voluntarily funded by the 'evil west', with the US sharing 22% and Russia (unlike Mexico) not even being amongst the Top 10 donors?

avi

pre 12 godina

I think the poverty in Serbia has given the opportunity to people like Dacic to come to power. What a shame for the Balkans and Serbia, Dacic used to be servant of Milosevic and look now his post?

Zoran

pre 12 godina

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 20:30)
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Unfortunately my friend, you know very little about history. Since you are so smart, perhaps you can tell me who funded the initial stages of this so-called "UN" court (which is in fact a NATO court). Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.

icj1

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

Really ?! Then go and complain with Russia and China & co which set it up…
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in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any – though
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

They did not omit it dear. This is what ICTY said and addressed the INTENT too:
"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain INTENTION—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."
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besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

the standard of the court is “beyond reasonable doubt”. Of course, there will always be some doubt for any criminal conviction (for example I do agree that there is a chance that, say, an alien spaceship committed the genocide and not the Serbs who just happened to be there for a picnic).
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but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

A court set up by Russian and China & co is a kangaroo court ?! That’s not possible…

Loue

pre 12 godina

"Till the day" I have nor right to kill some one, I have no right to discriminate some one, I have no right to hate some one based on any believes, ethnicity, race, color,etc.. "Till the day" we are animals, humans should know better.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly? "
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

One little hint, it's very simple:

NATO = 4 letters, abbreviation for North Atlantic Treaty Organization, is a military alliance
UN = 2 letters, abbreviation for United Nations, is the organizations of 193 countries from all around the world including all states on the globe, with the exception of a dozen disputed territories.

The ICTY* rulings about Srebrenica I don't have to repeat again.

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

Also, the remains of 4 albanians were given to Kosovo/Eulex authorities by Serbs. These remains were from the albanians killed 13 years ago and buried somewhere in Serbia.
How come Dacic does not mention this horrible case where albanins were killed and then transported into Serbia proper or perhaps were taken alive into Serbia proper and killed there in horrible ways? Dacic together with Milosevic were in power in 1999 when these horrible crimes happen.
Its sad that Serbian government claims that its a democratic government when in fact Dacic is still in power.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."
Zoran

Of those 80 how many were convicted and sent to jail?

Momcilo, what book do you suggest Albanians should read?

to all muslim apologists

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political - in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any - though, for sake of justice Serbs would have had all the legitimacy to do that - Muslims had performed a genocide towards Serbs together with germans in WWII and crazy Izotbegovic had envisaged the other one to come - but Insha`Allah - they failed. by the way who spilled blood first - Muslims - and what goes around comes around. besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants - but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...

@Zoran

pre 12 godina

In February 2007 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) concurred with the ICTY judgement, stating:

The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.

icj1

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

You are correct... nothing was proved by a NATO court for the simple reason that a NATO court does not exist.

However, another court set up by Russia, China and others did prove that Srebrenica was a genocide. This is what that Russia's & co court said about Srebrenica in June of 2010:

"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain intention—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."

KOSO

pre 12 godina

A day doesn't go by without a clown from belgrade calling a conference and lamenting the public with bs rhetoric.


Kosovo has become a gladiator sport for the corrupt elists of belgrade running that the basket case into a black hole. All indicators are in red, economy, unemployment, underemployment, public debt, dinar value, etc.

Koliko kosta Kosovo? (Glad you asked)

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 16:49)
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Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly?

It was Oric's murderous soldiers that met their maker for massacring thousands of Serbians, including women and children on religious days like Christmas and saints days. Everyone knew those soldiers had it coming and in fact were sacrificed by Oric and Izetbegovic as confirmed by the Muslims themselves.

Now the genocides of Operation storm and the aftermath of the Kosovo bombing, blessed by NATO and the West is the sad reality. As we know, instability, destruction and death is in the interests of the US military complex. It wouldn't be profitable otherwise.

Avni

pre 12 godina

Didn't your boss have double standards while he kept Kosovo occupied? He fired Albanians from their job just for being Albanians (not going to speak of other evil things he did). Thanks to him and you Kosovo today is independent.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dacic strikes again! There is no double standard in Kosova Dacic, there is only one standard. That one standard is the constitution of the independent Kosova!

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 15:08)
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It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?

Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?

the golden age

pre 12 godina

"It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?"

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
There goes your victim theory. You have a high number of displaced persons but who forced you to start the wars?

"Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?"

Why should I answer you when you have already informed us that one gets medals for crimes in Kosovo? Who am I to doubt such qualified information?

Momcilo

pre 12 godina

@golden age.. either you are purposely uneducated, or just like to stir the pot. Next time Serb fans beat up Croatians? Everyone knows a Serb can't drive into Croatia and feel safe, yet Croatians flood Beograd all the time no problem. I seen several instances in Dubrovnik last year where people were beat up who were thought to be Serbian. And oops.. couple ended up being Croatian. Point is.. a couple soccer fans got beat up? yes. Croatia celebrates the biggest ethnic cleansing in the past war..where they drove out Serbs, and their hatred burns just as deep. Oops, forgot to mention their collaboration with Hitler's Nazis in murdering a large number of Serbs. But yeah..let's not talk about 70 years ago either. Moving on.. anyone that doesn't know or understand Tito's allowance of Albos to crawl into Kosovo, needs to go do some reading. Not only did he maintain strong relations with Albos down in Kosovo, he continued to allow them to grow. He had a very special relationship with them, and encouraged their self government down there, and this is proven. @Mirel.. if you dont know those facts, i suggest you pick up.. hmmm .. it's called a book. It was all one big picture for Tito... weaken the Serbs, and keep a balance. That's why its a shame for any Serb, today or ever to say he was good. He created this whole scene in the Balkans. With the Albanians especially, and created this whole nightmare Serbs deal with today. As far as Dacic..little too late, where've you been the last 5 years? Unreal..

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo...

@ecoman,
Are you insane?Is this serbian excuse for being minority in Kosova?
When did it happened?I would love to know, since Hoxha had closed the border in 1944 and people who crossed the border were less than 200 in 45 years.Because if you crossed the border,Hoxha takes your family in gulag,so there is no way that albanians have crossed the border and stayed in Kosova.
Even those who crossed the border 100% of them went to USA or Australia.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 13:48)

In case you WERE right they have learned from the best. Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.

icj1

pre 12 godina

According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)


Many more than the 80

EA

pre 12 godina

ecoman,

What books are you suggesting to read about history? Serbian books?.....)))) Are you Ok? I am getting worried about you? Albanians are very good in foreign languages....majoriy of us speak two languages...you can check it out and come back to me when you feel better....)))

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo. Your history is a little warped, and I don't remember a time when Serbs and Albanians lived peacefully in Kosovo, so please do not speak for the Serbian people. You, (Albanci) were forever trying to steal Serbian land, cleanse Kosovo of anyone not Albanian, and that historically caused problems. Read your history, and not from Albanian history books.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?

ecoman

pre 12 godina

April 2, 2012 - Addressing the issue during a news conference in Brussels on Monday, a spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the arrests "could not be qualified as kidnapping". - B92
Look it up yourselves, Albanci, if you don't believe me? Why do you keep chirping about some kidnapping, when it was not. Your KPS clowns had no idea where they were, and wondered into central Serbia. They ate a little dirt, and were sent back to Pristina, with a "get a map, suggestion from Serbia MUP". So please stop with the abduction BS, it makes you look like fools. As for Dacic, he is a politician, and they all make provocative comments at times, just look at the garbage Thaci was spewing today to his faithful, about him respecting the law, hahaha, that's a good one.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 13:00)
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Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.

And Yes, 80 were arrested. As you can see, crime does not go unpunished in Serbia. However, the same cannot be said for "Kosova"*.

Here, Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2008/02/serbia-police-charge-80-in-embassy.php

"noting that Serbian police had already arrested over 200 people. The Serbian government has condemned the attacks on diplomatic missions..."

However, no such condemnation in "Kosova"* when crimes are committed. They get medals there with elevated status, hoping to make it into "government" one day. You get gold for murder, silver for paralysis and bronze for injury. Get enough gold and you too could become "prime minister" of "Kosova"*.

* UNSCR1244

Veles

pre 12 godina

I have to admit Dacic's statement as partially true. The European policy has long played with double standards since never condemned Serbian violence upon ethnic Albanians in Presheve, Bujanoc and Medvegje. But our little Milloshevic, sorry I mean Dacic is complaining for some minor incidents. He cannot conceal the very fact that most of Serbs accept the independence of Kosova and are very loyal to its authority upon themselves. They are really tired of being instructed from Belgrade orders to not accept Kosova's institutions. it's historically known that local Serbs have had an excellent co-existence with the Albanians. Everything went wrong at the moment Serbia managed to bring thousands of colons from Shumadia or Bosnia. Moreover, Dacic's attempt to play with the card of nationalism is just to scare Europe and to compel her to fulfill Serbia's objectives. If Kosova's institutions were more wise, then they would arrest all the agents of MUP that operate in Kosova. I am certain that Dacic's ministry would be closed since all of its staff is operating in Kosova in order to weak as much as possible its independence.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 12:02)
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According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?

Daniel

pre 12 godina

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

(EA, 6 April 2012 11:37)
You got information? Wow, that means it's right. Like anyone with a brain would trust anything you have to say. You are so very important aren't you.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 11:34)

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.

petro london

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dačić you r not heelping at all and the EU can see this you are an other milosevic !! i dont belive the serbian gov know how to leave in peace . i feel sorry for the serbian`s f.... all the politicans serbs and kosovens !! wake up people!! we have 1 god we live under the same sky ! i wish the best for both nations ( albanians and serbs ) :)

BT

pre 12 godina

You have double standards! Belgrade wants the world to respect Resolution 1244 while Belgrade itself in breach of Resolution 1244 by wanting to hold elections in kosova. "No election shall be held in kosova" - 1244, year 1999.

Berk.

pre 12 godina

At first, Little Slobo deteriorates the whole situation with the incursion and abduction of two KPS members and then he cries about the echo.

roberto

pre 12 godina

without his beloved leader (slobo), but has to settle for his partner tadic, the cynical nationalist. Dacic is promoted endlessly here as some kind of national champion.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)
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Incorrect, most people in Europe don't know about "Kosova"* or even care about it. The point here is that K*-Albanians commit crimes and nothing is done about it, while NATO, EULEX and EU politicians only talk about progress. However, should a Serbian do something, it goes to the UNSC and EP to see whether sanctions need to be applied again.

Yes, there are certainly double standards, but the current sell-out government has gone along with it, except now just before elections. The agenda is fairly clear, right?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. "
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 10:37)

Well, I didn't read about cars of politicians visiting another country being stoned (well, except for some muslim countries). And no, of course there IS mafia in Italy (and especially in Serbia), but the difference to Kosovo is that mafia bosses are not prime minister (or other ministers) at the same time. And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

when does this hyocrite and war monger finally shut up and goes into Russian exil. He said nothing when when serbian football hooligans did their thing a while ago, openly calls for war against Kosova. I think the entire world had enough of this man, who constantly contradicts himself, and is a danger for peace in the entire region.
Today marks the 20th anniversary that the siege of Sarejevo started, where 11541 people were killed, and over 50000 people wounded by serbian forces. This is something he should talk about on a day like like this, but I am afraid that even if he did, it would probably just the same old lies all over again.

EA

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

The way how Dadic stage the display the pictures intending to humiliate Kosovo was indecent.....The Kosovo policemen were on duty/assignent and in uniform. The were carrying authorised weapons and duty equipments authorised by KFOR and EULEX if you like. Was the cowboy arrest in the spirit if dialogue and cooperation?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

According to him, the attacks on representatives of the Serbian government who negotiated about solving the problems in Kosovo, writing of slogans, shooting at religious places and the attack of the Albanian fans on Serbian civilians “are only a proof that Europe has double standards in Kosovo”.

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)

Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. Next time some Serbian soccer fans beat up some Croats the US should directly address the UN SC. Take your hypocrisy and your European values most of Europe doesn't live and have a closer look at the country you are living in.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.
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Tough man Dacic, standing firm just before elections.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

Campaign trail rhetoric,(I am the one that can save the world) be glad Serbia you have a short time of this before elections, we in the US have to endure another 7 months of it.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

when does this hyocrite and war monger finally shut up and goes into Russian exil. He said nothing when when serbian football hooligans did their thing a while ago, openly calls for war against Kosova. I think the entire world had enough of this man, who constantly contradicts himself, and is a danger for peace in the entire region.
Today marks the 20th anniversary that the siege of Sarejevo started, where 11541 people were killed, and over 50000 people wounded by serbian forces. This is something he should talk about on a day like like this, but I am afraid that even if he did, it would probably just the same old lies all over again.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.
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Tough man Dacic, standing firm just before elections.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)

Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. Next time some Serbian soccer fans beat up some Croats the US should directly address the UN SC. Take your hypocrisy and your European values most of Europe doesn't live and have a closer look at the country you are living in.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 11:34)

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

According to him, the attacks on representatives of the Serbian government who negotiated about solving the problems in Kosovo, writing of slogans, shooting at religious places and the attack of the Albanian fans on Serbian civilians “are only a proof that Europe has double standards in Kosovo”.

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo...

@ecoman,
Are you insane?Is this serbian excuse for being minority in Kosova?
When did it happened?I would love to know, since Hoxha had closed the border in 1944 and people who crossed the border were less than 200 in 45 years.Because if you crossed the border,Hoxha takes your family in gulag,so there is no way that albanians have crossed the border and stayed in Kosova.
Even those who crossed the border 100% of them went to USA or Australia.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dacic strikes again! There is no double standard in Kosova Dacic, there is only one standard. That one standard is the constitution of the independent Kosova!

EA

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

The way how Dadic stage the display the pictures intending to humiliate Kosovo was indecent.....The Kosovo policemen were on duty/assignent and in uniform. The were carrying authorised weapons and duty equipments authorised by KFOR and EULEX if you like. Was the cowboy arrest in the spirit if dialogue and cooperation?

Berk.

pre 12 godina

At first, Little Slobo deteriorates the whole situation with the incursion and abduction of two KPS members and then he cries about the echo.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. "
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 10:37)

Well, I didn't read about cars of politicians visiting another country being stoned (well, except for some muslim countries). And no, of course there IS mafia in Italy (and especially in Serbia), but the difference to Kosovo is that mafia bosses are not prime minister (or other ministers) at the same time. And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.

petro london

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dačić you r not heelping at all and the EU can see this you are an other milosevic !! i dont belive the serbian gov know how to leave in peace . i feel sorry for the serbian`s f.... all the politicans serbs and kosovens !! wake up people!! we have 1 god we live under the same sky ! i wish the best for both nations ( albanians and serbs ) :)

BT

pre 12 godina

You have double standards! Belgrade wants the world to respect Resolution 1244 while Belgrade itself in breach of Resolution 1244 by wanting to hold elections in kosova. "No election shall be held in kosova" - 1244, year 1999.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo. Your history is a little warped, and I don't remember a time when Serbs and Albanians lived peacefully in Kosovo, so please do not speak for the Serbian people. You, (Albanci) were forever trying to steal Serbian land, cleanse Kosovo of anyone not Albanian, and that historically caused problems. Read your history, and not from Albanian history books.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 13:48)

In case you WERE right they have learned from the best. Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.

EA

pre 12 godina

ecoman,

What books are you suggesting to read about history? Serbian books?.....)))) Are you Ok? I am getting worried about you? Albanians are very good in foreign languages....majoriy of us speak two languages...you can check it out and come back to me when you feel better....)))

the golden age

pre 12 godina

"It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?"

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
There goes your victim theory. You have a high number of displaced persons but who forced you to start the wars?

"Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?"

Why should I answer you when you have already informed us that one gets medals for crimes in Kosovo? Who am I to doubt such qualified information?

roberto

pre 12 godina

without his beloved leader (slobo), but has to settle for his partner tadic, the cynical nationalist. Dacic is promoted endlessly here as some kind of national champion.

Veles

pre 12 godina

I have to admit Dacic's statement as partially true. The European policy has long played with double standards since never condemned Serbian violence upon ethnic Albanians in Presheve, Bujanoc and Medvegje. But our little Milloshevic, sorry I mean Dacic is complaining for some minor incidents. He cannot conceal the very fact that most of Serbs accept the independence of Kosova and are very loyal to its authority upon themselves. They are really tired of being instructed from Belgrade orders to not accept Kosova's institutions. it's historically known that local Serbs have had an excellent co-existence with the Albanians. Everything went wrong at the moment Serbia managed to bring thousands of colons from Shumadia or Bosnia. Moreover, Dacic's attempt to play with the card of nationalism is just to scare Europe and to compel her to fulfill Serbia's objectives. If Kosova's institutions were more wise, then they would arrest all the agents of MUP that operate in Kosova. I am certain that Dacic's ministry would be closed since all of its staff is operating in Kosova in order to weak as much as possible its independence.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

Campaign trail rhetoric,(I am the one that can save the world) be glad Serbia you have a short time of this before elections, we in the US have to endure another 7 months of it.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)
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Incorrect, most people in Europe don't know about "Kosova"* or even care about it. The point here is that K*-Albanians commit crimes and nothing is done about it, while NATO, EULEX and EU politicians only talk about progress. However, should a Serbian do something, it goes to the UNSC and EP to see whether sanctions need to be applied again.

Yes, there are certainly double standards, but the current sell-out government has gone along with it, except now just before elections. The agenda is fairly clear, right?

Daniel

pre 12 godina

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

(EA, 6 April 2012 11:37)
You got information? Wow, that means it's right. Like anyone with a brain would trust anything you have to say. You are so very important aren't you.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 13:00)
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Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.

And Yes, 80 were arrested. As you can see, crime does not go unpunished in Serbia. However, the same cannot be said for "Kosova"*.

Here, Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2008/02/serbia-police-charge-80-in-embassy.php

"noting that Serbian police had already arrested over 200 people. The Serbian government has condemned the attacks on diplomatic missions..."

However, no such condemnation in "Kosova"* when crimes are committed. They get medals there with elevated status, hoping to make it into "government" one day. You get gold for murder, silver for paralysis and bronze for injury. Get enough gold and you too could become "prime minister" of "Kosova"*.

* UNSCR1244

Avni

pre 12 godina

Didn't your boss have double standards while he kept Kosovo occupied? He fired Albanians from their job just for being Albanians (not going to speak of other evil things he did). Thanks to him and you Kosovo today is independent.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 12:02)
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According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?

ecoman

pre 12 godina

April 2, 2012 - Addressing the issue during a news conference in Brussels on Monday, a spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the arrests "could not be qualified as kidnapping". - B92
Look it up yourselves, Albanci, if you don't believe me? Why do you keep chirping about some kidnapping, when it was not. Your KPS clowns had no idea where they were, and wondered into central Serbia. They ate a little dirt, and were sent back to Pristina, with a "get a map, suggestion from Serbia MUP". So please stop with the abduction BS, it makes you look like fools. As for Dacic, he is a politician, and they all make provocative comments at times, just look at the garbage Thaci was spewing today to his faithful, about him respecting the law, hahaha, that's a good one.

icj1

pre 12 godina

According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)


Many more than the 80

icj1

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

You are correct... nothing was proved by a NATO court for the simple reason that a NATO court does not exist.

However, another court set up by Russia, China and others did prove that Srebrenica was a genocide. This is what that Russia's & co court said about Srebrenica in June of 2010:

"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain intention—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."

@Zoran

pre 12 godina

In February 2007 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) concurred with the ICTY judgement, stating:

The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

A day doesn't go by without a clown from belgrade calling a conference and lamenting the public with bs rhetoric.


Kosovo has become a gladiator sport for the corrupt elists of belgrade running that the basket case into a black hole. All indicators are in red, economy, unemployment, underemployment, public debt, dinar value, etc.

Koliko kosta Kosovo? (Glad you asked)

metrod

pre 12 godina

"According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."
Zoran

Of those 80 how many were convicted and sent to jail?

Momcilo, what book do you suggest Albanians should read?

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

Also, the remains of 4 albanians were given to Kosovo/Eulex authorities by Serbs. These remains were from the albanians killed 13 years ago and buried somewhere in Serbia.
How come Dacic does not mention this horrible case where albanins were killed and then transported into Serbia proper or perhaps were taken alive into Serbia proper and killed there in horrible ways? Dacic together with Milosevic were in power in 1999 when these horrible crimes happen.
Its sad that Serbian government claims that its a democratic government when in fact Dacic is still in power.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 15:08)
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It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?

Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly? "
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

One little hint, it's very simple:

NATO = 4 letters, abbreviation for North Atlantic Treaty Organization, is a military alliance
UN = 2 letters, abbreviation for United Nations, is the organizations of 193 countries from all around the world including all states on the globe, with the exception of a dozen disputed territories.

The ICTY* rulings about Srebrenica I don't have to repeat again.

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.

icj1

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

Really ?! Then go and complain with Russia and China & co which set it up…
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in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any – though
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

They did not omit it dear. This is what ICTY said and addressed the INTENT too:
"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain INTENTION—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."
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besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

the standard of the court is “beyond reasonable doubt”. Of course, there will always be some doubt for any criminal conviction (for example I do agree that there is a chance that, say, an alien spaceship committed the genocide and not the Serbs who just happened to be there for a picnic).
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but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

A court set up by Russian and China & co is a kangaroo court ?! That’s not possible…

Loue

pre 12 godina

"Till the day" I have nor right to kill some one, I have no right to discriminate some one, I have no right to hate some one based on any believes, ethnicity, race, color,etc.. "Till the day" we are animals, humans should know better.

avi

pre 12 godina

I think the poverty in Serbia has given the opportunity to people like Dacic to come to power. What a shame for the Balkans and Serbia, Dacic used to be servant of Milosevic and look now his post?

Momcilo

pre 12 godina

@golden age.. either you are purposely uneducated, or just like to stir the pot. Next time Serb fans beat up Croatians? Everyone knows a Serb can't drive into Croatia and feel safe, yet Croatians flood Beograd all the time no problem. I seen several instances in Dubrovnik last year where people were beat up who were thought to be Serbian. And oops.. couple ended up being Croatian. Point is.. a couple soccer fans got beat up? yes. Croatia celebrates the biggest ethnic cleansing in the past war..where they drove out Serbs, and their hatred burns just as deep. Oops, forgot to mention their collaboration with Hitler's Nazis in murdering a large number of Serbs. But yeah..let's not talk about 70 years ago either. Moving on.. anyone that doesn't know or understand Tito's allowance of Albos to crawl into Kosovo, needs to go do some reading. Not only did he maintain strong relations with Albos down in Kosovo, he continued to allow them to grow. He had a very special relationship with them, and encouraged their self government down there, and this is proven. @Mirel.. if you dont know those facts, i suggest you pick up.. hmmm .. it's called a book. It was all one big picture for Tito... weaken the Serbs, and keep a balance. That's why its a shame for any Serb, today or ever to say he was good. He created this whole scene in the Balkans. With the Albanians especially, and created this whole nightmare Serbs deal with today. As far as Dacic..little too late, where've you been the last 5 years? Unreal..

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 16:49)
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Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly?

It was Oric's murderous soldiers that met their maker for massacring thousands of Serbians, including women and children on religious days like Christmas and saints days. Everyone knew those soldiers had it coming and in fact were sacrificed by Oric and Izetbegovic as confirmed by the Muslims themselves.

Now the genocides of Operation storm and the aftermath of the Kosovo bombing, blessed by NATO and the West is the sad reality. As we know, instability, destruction and death is in the interests of the US military complex. It wouldn't be profitable otherwise.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 20:30)
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Unfortunately my friend, you know very little about history. Since you are so smart, perhaps you can tell me who funded the initial stages of this so-called "UN" court (which is in fact a NATO court). Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.
(Zoran, 7 April 2012 00:08)


From wikipedia: "The Court was established by Resolution 827 of the United Nations Security Council, which was passed on 25 May 1993. It has jurisdiction over four clusters of crimes committed on the territory of the former Yugoslavia since 1991: grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, violations of the laws or customs of war, genocide, and crimes against humanity. The maximum sentence it can impose is life imprisonment. Various countries have signed agreements with the UN to carry out custodial sentences."

Or do you mean that more than 75% of the whole UN budget is voluntarily funded by the 'evil west', with the US sharing 22% and Russia (unlike Mexico) not even being amongst the Top 10 donors?

to all muslim apologists

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political - in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any - though, for sake of justice Serbs would have had all the legitimacy to do that - Muslims had performed a genocide towards Serbs together with germans in WWII and crazy Izotbegovic had envisaged the other one to come - but Insha`Allah - they failed. by the way who spilled blood first - Muslims - and what goes around comes around. besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants - but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...

Kiko

pre 12 godina

To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not? And is it any different than the stone throwing by people who have fresh memories of the war?

My opinion on my first question is that the incident seemed as how the Arab world reacted to the Mohammed cartoon drawings and totally uncivilized and Serbia is in Europe! And to my second ? People on both sides haven't come to forgiveness of past acts of Milosevic and not all Serbs are the same as he and not all Albanians are mafia types, drug smugglers, etc. as a lot of Serbs imply.

Statistically bc of the population size of each region or territory there would be more of the latter in Serbia proper and if you still consider Kosovo/a part of Serbia then all these criminals are Serbian. Since they all live in Serbia. Henceforth all people of the state of Serbia are criminals irregardless of ethnicity but based on territory and citizenship! And all are uncivilized people including the politician in the article!

Edon Gojani

pre 12 godina

"To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not?"

I understand if there were a few bad apples in Belgrade that day, but that happens. Having marines stationed there at the time, and taking the life of a boy that day isn't a crime it seems. Anyway - would you consider NATO's aggression in 1999 civilized? I lost a family member in a refugee convoy on the way to Kukes thanks to America's humanitarian bombing. Yeah, the Balkan "powder keg" is barbaric, uncivilized, while America flourishes with democracy.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

According to him, the attacks on representatives of the Serbian government who negotiated about solving the problems in Kosovo, writing of slogans, shooting at religious places and the attack of the Albanian fans on Serbian civilians “are only a proof that Europe has double standards in Kosovo”.

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo. Your history is a little warped, and I don't remember a time when Serbs and Albanians lived peacefully in Kosovo, so please do not speak for the Serbian people. You, (Albanci) were forever trying to steal Serbian land, cleanse Kosovo of anyone not Albanian, and that historically caused problems. Read your history, and not from Albanian history books.

Willi Pfaff

pre 12 godina

when does this hyocrite and war monger finally shut up and goes into Russian exil. He said nothing when when serbian football hooligans did their thing a while ago, openly calls for war against Kosova. I think the entire world had enough of this man, who constantly contradicts himself, and is a danger for peace in the entire region.
Today marks the 20th anniversary that the siege of Sarejevo started, where 11541 people were killed, and over 50000 people wounded by serbian forces. This is something he should talk about on a day like like this, but I am afraid that even if he did, it would probably just the same old lies all over again.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 11:34)

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)

Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. Next time some Serbian soccer fans beat up some Croats the US should directly address the UN SC. Take your hypocrisy and your European values most of Europe doesn't live and have a closer look at the country you are living in.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

No, this is only a proof that Kosovo Albanians are far away from European standards. I have no doubt that people in whole Europe know about the black hole called Kosovo and all its organized criminality.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 10:01)
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Incorrect, most people in Europe don't know about "Kosova"* or even care about it. The point here is that K*-Albanians commit crimes and nothing is done about it, while NATO, EULEX and EU politicians only talk about progress. However, should a Serbian do something, it goes to the UNSC and EP to see whether sanctions need to be applied again.

Yes, there are certainly double standards, but the current sell-out government has gone along with it, except now just before elections. The agenda is fairly clear, right?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Whilst the rest of Europe lives in eternal peace, love and happiness. No crime in Europe, Italy not being run by the mafia. "
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 10:37)

Well, I didn't read about cars of politicians visiting another country being stoned (well, except for some muslim countries). And no, of course there IS mafia in Italy (and especially in Serbia), but the difference to Kosovo is that mafia bosses are not prime minister (or other ministers) at the same time. And in normal countries, hooliginas who attack other people with knifes or beat them up are usually caught by police and sent to prison.

ecoman

pre 12 godina

April 2, 2012 - Addressing the issue during a news conference in Brussels on Monday, a spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the arrests "could not be qualified as kidnapping". - B92
Look it up yourselves, Albanci, if you don't believe me? Why do you keep chirping about some kidnapping, when it was not. Your KPS clowns had no idea where they were, and wondered into central Serbia. They ate a little dirt, and were sent back to Pristina, with a "get a map, suggestion from Serbia MUP". So please stop with the abduction BS, it makes you look like fools. As for Dacic, he is a politician, and they all make provocative comments at times, just look at the garbage Thaci was spewing today to his faithful, about him respecting the law, hahaha, that's a good one.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 13:00)
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Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.

And Yes, 80 were arrested. As you can see, crime does not go unpunished in Serbia. However, the same cannot be said for "Kosova"*.

Here, Check -> http://jurist.org/paperchase/2008/02/serbia-police-charge-80-in-embassy.php

"noting that Serbian police had already arrested over 200 people. The Serbian government has condemned the attacks on diplomatic missions..."

However, no such condemnation in "Kosova"* when crimes are committed. They get medals there with elevated status, hoping to make it into "government" one day. You get gold for murder, silver for paralysis and bronze for injury. Get enough gold and you too could become "prime minister" of "Kosova"*.

* UNSCR1244

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 15:08)
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It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?

Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?

Momcilo

pre 12 godina

@golden age.. either you are purposely uneducated, or just like to stir the pot. Next time Serb fans beat up Croatians? Everyone knows a Serb can't drive into Croatia and feel safe, yet Croatians flood Beograd all the time no problem. I seen several instances in Dubrovnik last year where people were beat up who were thought to be Serbian. And oops.. couple ended up being Croatian. Point is.. a couple soccer fans got beat up? yes. Croatia celebrates the biggest ethnic cleansing in the past war..where they drove out Serbs, and their hatred burns just as deep. Oops, forgot to mention their collaboration with Hitler's Nazis in murdering a large number of Serbs. But yeah..let's not talk about 70 years ago either. Moving on.. anyone that doesn't know or understand Tito's allowance of Albos to crawl into Kosovo, needs to go do some reading. Not only did he maintain strong relations with Albos down in Kosovo, he continued to allow them to grow. He had a very special relationship with them, and encouraged their self government down there, and this is proven. @Mirel.. if you dont know those facts, i suggest you pick up.. hmmm .. it's called a book. It was all one big picture for Tito... weaken the Serbs, and keep a balance. That's why its a shame for any Serb, today or ever to say he was good. He created this whole scene in the Balkans. With the Albanians especially, and created this whole nightmare Serbs deal with today. As far as Dacic..little too late, where've you been the last 5 years? Unreal..

EA

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

The way how Dadic stage the display the pictures intending to humiliate Kosovo was indecent.....The Kosovo policemen were on duty/assignent and in uniform. The were carrying authorised weapons and duty equipments authorised by KFOR and EULEX if you like. Was the cowboy arrest in the spirit if dialogue and cooperation?

Zoran

pre 12 godina

How many were caught and sent to prison for torching the US embassy in Belgrade directly under the watchful eye of the Serbian police? But Kosovo is the black hole blah blah blah.
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 12:02)
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According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?

roberto

pre 12 godina

without his beloved leader (slobo), but has to settle for his partner tadic, the cynical nationalist. Dacic is promoted endlessly here as some kind of national champion.

petro london

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dačić you r not heelping at all and the EU can see this you are an other milosevic !! i dont belive the serbian gov know how to leave in peace . i feel sorry for the serbian`s f.... all the politicans serbs and kosovens !! wake up people!! we have 1 god we live under the same sky ! i wish the best for both nations ( albanians and serbs ) :)

Berk.

pre 12 godina

At first, Little Slobo deteriorates the whole situation with the incursion and abduction of two KPS members and then he cries about the echo.

Daniel

pre 12 godina

From the information I have got the Kosovo policement were arrested up to 200 metres in the territory of Kosovo.

(EA, 6 April 2012 11:37)
You got information? Wow, that means it's right. Like anyone with a brain would trust anything you have to say. You are so very important aren't you.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

Yes, Albanians committed genocide against Serbians in KiM. They have ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands and continue to this day with murder and other crimes unpunished.
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 13:48)

In case you WERE right they have learned from the best. Serbia is has a certain reputation when it comes to genocide and ethnical cleansing.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
(the golden age, 6 April 2012 16:49)
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Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly?

It was Oric's murderous soldiers that met their maker for massacring thousands of Serbians, including women and children on religious days like Christmas and saints days. Everyone knew those soldiers had it coming and in fact were sacrificed by Oric and Izetbegovic as confirmed by the Muslims themselves.

Now the genocides of Operation storm and the aftermath of the Kosovo bombing, blessed by NATO and the West is the sad reality. As we know, instability, destruction and death is in the interests of the US military complex. It wouldn't be profitable otherwise.

a New Day

pre 12 godina

Campaign trail rhetoric,(I am the one that can save the world) be glad Serbia you have a short time of this before elections, we in the US have to endure another 7 months of it.

EA

pre 12 godina

ecoman,

What books are you suggesting to read about history? Serbian books?.....)))) Are you Ok? I am getting worried about you? Albanians are very good in foreign languages....majoriy of us speak two languages...you can check it out and come back to me when you feel better....)))

BT

pre 12 godina

You have double standards! Belgrade wants the world to respect Resolution 1244 while Belgrade itself in breach of Resolution 1244 by wanting to hold elections in kosova. "No election shall be held in kosova" - 1244, year 1999.

the golden age

pre 12 godina

and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)

Genocide? Mixing up Albanians with Serbs, aren't we?

Back to topic: 80 were charged? "Several hundred protesters have attacked the US and other embassies in Serbia's capital in anger at Western support for Kosovo's independence" (source BBC)? Impressive. Was the police or rather the responsible minister charged for enabling that violence?

Veles

pre 12 godina

I have to admit Dacic's statement as partially true. The European policy has long played with double standards since never condemned Serbian violence upon ethnic Albanians in Presheve, Bujanoc and Medvegje. But our little Milloshevic, sorry I mean Dacic is complaining for some minor incidents. He cannot conceal the very fact that most of Serbs accept the independence of Kosova and are very loyal to its authority upon themselves. They are really tired of being instructed from Belgrade orders to not accept Kosova's institutions. it's historically known that local Serbs have had an excellent co-existence with the Albanians. Everything went wrong at the moment Serbia managed to bring thousands of colons from Shumadia or Bosnia. Moreover, Dacic's attempt to play with the card of nationalism is just to scare Europe and to compel her to fulfill Serbia's objectives. If Kosova's institutions were more wise, then they would arrest all the agents of MUP that operate in Kosova. I am certain that Dacic's ministry would be closed since all of its staff is operating in Kosova in order to weak as much as possible its independence.

Mirel from Albania

pre 12 godina

...Veles, I think the problem began when Tito opened the borders of Yugoslavia, and allowed Albanians running from Hoxha to flood Kosovo...

@ecoman,
Are you insane?Is this serbian excuse for being minority in Kosova?
When did it happened?I would love to know, since Hoxha had closed the border in 1944 and people who crossed the border were less than 200 in 45 years.Because if you crossed the border,Hoxha takes your family in gulag,so there is no way that albanians have crossed the border and stayed in Kosova.
Even those who crossed the border 100% of them went to USA or Australia.

USA United States of Albania

pre 12 godina

Ivica Dacic strikes again! There is no double standard in Kosova Dacic, there is only one standard. That one standard is the constitution of the independent Kosova!

to all muslim apologists

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political - in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any - though, for sake of justice Serbs would have had all the legitimacy to do that - Muslims had performed a genocide towards Serbs together with germans in WWII and crazy Izotbegovic had envisaged the other one to come - but Insha`Allah - they failed. by the way who spilled blood first - Muslims - and what goes around comes around. besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants - but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...

@Zoran

pre 12 godina

In February 2007 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) concurred with the ICTY judgement, stating:

The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.

KOSO

pre 12 godina

A day doesn't go by without a clown from belgrade calling a conference and lamenting the public with bs rhetoric.


Kosovo has become a gladiator sport for the corrupt elists of belgrade running that the basket case into a black hole. All indicators are in red, economy, unemployment, underemployment, public debt, dinar value, etc.

Koliko kosta Kosovo? (Glad you asked)

Montenegrin

pre 12 godina

Also, the remains of 4 albanians were given to Kosovo/Eulex authorities by Serbs. These remains were from the albanians killed 13 years ago and buried somewhere in Serbia.
How come Dacic does not mention this horrible case where albanins were killed and then transported into Serbia proper or perhaps were taken alive into Serbia proper and killed there in horrible ways? Dacic together with Milosevic were in power in 1999 when these horrible crimes happen.
Its sad that Serbian government claims that its a democratic government when in fact Dacic is still in power.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.
(Comm. Parrisson, 6 April 2012 20:30)
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Unfortunately my friend, you know very little about history. Since you are so smart, perhaps you can tell me who funded the initial stages of this so-called "UN" court (which is in fact a NATO court). Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.

Zoran

pre 12 godina

“Everybody was recently very concerned about the allegedly illegal arrest of Albanians who illegally crossed into Serbia’s territory,” Dačić stressed and added that Serbia needed to take a firm stand.
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Tough man Dacic, standing firm just before elections.

icj1

pre 12 godina

According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."

How many Albanians have been sent to prison for destroying churches, murdering non-Albanians, terrorism and lets not forget genocide?
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 12:44)


Many more than the 80

icj1

pre 12 godina

Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

You are correct... nothing was proved by a NATO court for the simple reason that a NATO court does not exist.

However, another court set up by Russia, China and others did prove that Srebrenica was a genocide. This is what that Russia's & co court said about Srebrenica in June of 2010:

"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain intention—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

Please, just answer who initially funded this "court". Hint: it wasn't the UN and you might want to ask Madeline Halfbright if it gets difficult.
(Zoran, 7 April 2012 00:08)


From wikipedia: "The Court was established by Resolution 827 of the United Nations Security Council, which was passed on 25 May 1993. It has jurisdiction over four clusters of crimes committed on the territory of the former Yugoslavia since 1991: grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, violations of the laws or customs of war, genocide, and crimes against humanity. The maximum sentence it can impose is life imprisonment. Various countries have signed agreements with the UN to carry out custodial sentences."

Or do you mean that more than 75% of the whole UN budget is voluntarily funded by the 'evil west', with the US sharing 22% and Russia (unlike Mexico) not even being amongst the Top 10 donors?

the golden age

pre 12 godina

"It is not something to be proud of but we are the largest victims of both ethnic cleansing and genocide. Maybe it's time you learned the truth?"

Post 1945 there is one case of genocide in former Yugoslavia: Srebrenica
There goes your victim theory. You have a high number of displaced persons but who forced you to start the wars?

"Also, any particular reason for avoiding my question or does your silence admit that Albanian crime goes unpunished in "Kosova"*?"

Why should I answer you when you have already informed us that one gets medals for crimes in Kosovo? Who am I to doubt such qualified information?

Avni

pre 12 godina

Didn't your boss have double standards while he kept Kosovo occupied? He fired Albanians from their job just for being Albanians (not going to speak of other evil things he did). Thanks to him and you Kosovo today is independent.

metrod

pre 12 godina

"According to Wikipedia (Source Associated press) - "On February 29, Serbian police charged 80 people in connection with the embassy attacks."
Zoran

Of those 80 how many were convicted and sent to jail?

Momcilo, what book do you suggest Albanians should read?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 12 godina

"Sorry, Srebrenica was no genocide, even if the NATO court would try to prove otherwise. Even Israel confirmed no genocide was committed.Tell me, what kind of genocide offers shelter to women, children and the elderly? "
(Zoran, 6 April 2012 17:32)

One little hint, it's very simple:

NATO = 4 letters, abbreviation for North Atlantic Treaty Organization, is a military alliance
UN = 2 letters, abbreviation for United Nations, is the organizations of 193 countries from all around the world including all states on the globe, with the exception of a dozen disputed territories.

The ICTY* rulings about Srebrenica I don't have to repeat again.

*The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the UNITED NATIONS established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their perpetrators.

icj1

pre 12 godina

ICTY is a political –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

Really ?! Then go and complain with Russia and China & co which set it up…
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in regard with Srebrenica they omitted the most important element of the crime of genocide - the INTENT - they could not prove that because there was not any – though
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

They did not omit it dear. This is what ICTY said and addressed the INTENT too:
"The scale and nature of the murder operation, with the staggering number of killings, the systematic and organised manner in which it was carried out, the targeting and relentless pursuit of the victims, and the plain INTENTION—apparent from the evidence—to eliminate every Bosnian Muslim male who was captured or surrendered proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was genocide."
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besides, court failed to prove that Muslim Army KIA - majority of whom in fact had been killed during the previous fightings, were actually killed during the so called genocide - all the doubts must be interpreted in favor of the defendants –
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

the standard of the court is “beyond reasonable doubt”. Of course, there will always be some doubt for any criminal conviction (for example I do agree that there is a chance that, say, an alien spaceship committed the genocide and not the Serbs who just happened to be there for a picnic).
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but the kangoroo court decided to deviate from basics of criminal theory...
(to all muslim apologists, 6 April 2012 19:22)

A court set up by Russian and China & co is a kangaroo court ?! That’s not possible…

avi

pre 12 godina

I think the poverty in Serbia has given the opportunity to people like Dacic to come to power. What a shame for the Balkans and Serbia, Dacic used to be servant of Milosevic and look now his post?

Kiko

pre 12 godina

To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not? And is it any different than the stone throwing by people who have fresh memories of the war?

My opinion on my first question is that the incident seemed as how the Arab world reacted to the Mohammed cartoon drawings and totally uncivilized and Serbia is in Europe! And to my second ? People on both sides haven't come to forgiveness of past acts of Milosevic and not all Serbs are the same as he and not all Albanians are mafia types, drug smugglers, etc. as a lot of Serbs imply.

Statistically bc of the population size of each region or territory there would be more of the latter in Serbia proper and if you still consider Kosovo/a part of Serbia then all these criminals are Serbian. Since they all live in Serbia. Henceforth all people of the state of Serbia are criminals irregardless of ethnicity but based on territory and citizenship! And all are uncivilized people including the politician in the article!

Loue

pre 12 godina

"Till the day" I have nor right to kill some one, I have no right to discriminate some one, I have no right to hate some one based on any believes, ethnicity, race, color,etc.. "Till the day" we are animals, humans should know better.

Edon Gojani

pre 12 godina

"To some early commentators and the rest what do you consider the act of burning a US Embassy in Belgrade as: civilized or not?"

I understand if there were a few bad apples in Belgrade that day, but that happens. Having marines stationed there at the time, and taking the life of a boy that day isn't a crime it seems. Anyway - would you consider NATO's aggression in 1999 civilized? I lost a family member in a refugee convoy on the way to Kukes thanks to America's humanitarian bombing. Yeah, the Balkan "powder keg" is barbaric, uncivilized, while America flourishes with democracy.