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Friday, 30.09.2011.

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Tadić, Clinton didn’t discuss partitition of Kosovo

Serbian President Boris Tadić’s office denied Thursday that the president and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton discussed partition of Kosovo last week.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Mr. David J. Jones

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?
(Engineer, 1 October 2011 05:03)

AMERICAN...with a command of the English language of someone who uses it as a second language. However, that is secondary to this discussion. So you say 'I' cannot afford a power plant. You are 100% right but I could never see the need for one so declined to put away my bonus for that eventuality. My local 66KV substation offers more than I need for my simple life running 'yep, you guessed it....teams of construction engineers, QS's, designers etc with a much broader portfolio than power stations.

As I insinuated yesterday, give me 1 Serbian engineer for 100 albanian (engineers) and I will be a happy man. You see Mr Engineer, Serbs are just like us Scots...We have a history of engineering excellence that can never be erased. We are all born with that inquisative mind, to explore the unknown. We are also very proud peoples and I am glad to be associated with a similar nation to my own.

As for my solution. It's easy. No exchange of any land as the Albanians have nothing to offer. Kosovo is Serbia as is Serbia is Serbia and Scotland is Scotland. Sooner or later this will become evident once Kosovo has been left in limbo for a number of years.

Now, if your looking for work drop me a line and I'll see what I can do for you. However, unless you have Celtic or Slavic roots I doubt you would meet the entrance requirements. As for the American construction industry - it's just like the central Pristia economy - DEAD.

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Mr. Tadic! Stop dealing with the americans. they have no interest to Serbia and only served the Albanians. they will love to see Serbia to be fragmented / divided further. Stick with Russia and China.

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?

SerbNik

pre 12 godina

Albanian apologist here shoud comment on how they plan to apologise to Serbs for the war crimes they commited. One,the panda bat massacre was the most cowardly move in the entire history of war,only nazy germans use to kill children.
Two,your warlords are being arested but someone is killing protected vitnesses for them,both must be sent to the death penalty.

Three, Serbs are far FAR more tolerant then albanians. I've seen an albanian insult Serbia in the midle of Novi Sad and he was just deported. If a Serb did that in Albania he would be killed and his organs sold.
Four,every journalist that spoke of Serbs as some evil and albanians,croats and bosnians as good (all westner writers) shoud be fired and sent to trial. You don't have the right to brain wash people to justify killing of civilians and NATO has killed thousends of civilians on purpose.

SAY NO TO TERRORISM! SAY NO TO AMERICA!

alban

pre 12 godina

I genuinely think Serb posters here feel Serbia did NOTHING wrong. they sincerely seem to believe that the West purely and simply played a game and Serbia was just an unfortunate victim in their evil scheming. well...good luck living in denial

Mr. David J. Jones

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.

Ma Kakvi Rusi

pre 12 godina

All Russians want is to buy us with some funny money because they are brothers, they love us, they will protect us ... remember 1999 We were sold for $ 1.2 billion to Americans, and later they ran into Kosovo as the winners, just to pull out. Why they didnt hold on to Kosovo for us? ... And how long will it be before we rush from one to another, to NATO, to Russians, to Chinese... none are serious to understand and to help us? Sit right where you are, In EUROPE. Serbia is rich enough to be self-reliant. While the dream of billions, we do not have 100 dinars in my pocket. The constant wars, people always die, and those who "lupaju" the most, the greatest "patriots", sit in BG in the Assembly or as the directors of companies ... none of them were in the war, none of them died for this country. And when listening to them ....

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

This is why tadic is out next year no matter how many Serbian flags he drapes himself in. HATO is trying to kill Serbs in kosovo and tadic is in america kissing hillary's backside. she didn't hear anything new -- who gives a rat's ass what she thinks.

Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.
(alban, 30 September 2011 12:05)

Hi Alban!

So you find it hard to understand why Serbs are fighting so hard for Kosovo. Just look at the Serbian history, and it all revolves around the serbian holly land of Kosovo.
Miloshevic takes your autonomy and your people( elite respectable kosovo Albanians) with the help of west ethnically cleanse and murder (for organs) the remaining Serbian population that believed Thaci/Clinton were there for multicultural Kosovo!
KLA..is a joke, without the help from NATO, there would be no KLA, and no muslim Kosovo! There is no if,ands or buts!

I agree who ever said it, since Belgrade does not support it's people in Kosovo, than Serbs in Kosovo, any way possible must seek help and protection from their mother Russia.

Comm. Parisson

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).
(adrian kola, 30 September 2011 09:41)

Rest assured Mr Thaqi and all his nationalist 'Indipindint Kosovo' cronies that if the expansion of Albanian 'structures' to the North of Kosovo will continue, another conflict will occur. Fortunately, the tiny piece of land called Kosovo is just not important enough for a World War III :-).

Engineer

pre 12 godina

adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!
(Steve Gligorijevic, 30 September 2011 12:32)

Steve so brave of you to want to bring Serbian solders to the border but you can not not allowed, kumanovo agreement does not allow Serbian military within 5Km of Kosovo if they need to go for some reason that portion need permission from NATO. You lost the war so sorry you can not dictat terms. I want to understand one thing from Serbian side:

1. In Kosovo south live more Serbs than in north Kosovo 40k in North 120K in South. How can you say the ones in South can live under Athasarih plan but the ones in north not since Serbs do not want and ca not live under K-albanina rule.

2. Say North splits what will happen to Serbs south of Ibar why should Albanians give them more rights then get ready to accept them in the north or Serbia.

3. Churches let them come pick them up and bring them in North or Serbia proper if you can not live with Albanians why should you visit them?

So as you see Serbia has not thought this through compromise for Serbia is only their way and I am sorry its not possible.

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Tadic should rather discuss with his allies partition of Clinton. Wait, he has no allies. Bad luck.
Good, if no allies - than discuss with Clinton the best way the Pride Parade should be organized or the July 4 celebration next year. Why not?

alban

pre 12 godina

and mr Steve Gligorijevic is the typical Serb who believes in odd conspiracy theories that the US started the whole thing. its never Serbia or the Serbs. let's recap.
read ANY and I do mean ANY White House statement from 1991 (which is when Kosovo first declared independence) and it asserts Serbia's territorial right over Kosovo. ask yourself this, what changed? did the US & Western Europe change, or did Serbia create an untenable situation? no no, its easier to believe in the new world order (whatever the hell that is) then to actually think critically and realize that Serbia's losing of Kosovo was the responsibility of Serbia itself. It was not the US & EU that revoked Kosovo's autonomy (which is what Serbia is offering the Kosovar's now). It was not the US & EU that dismissed Albanian workers from public offices, banned Albanian road signs and established a police state. but no no, we all know the Serbs were just victims of a grander Western design. Serbia is never to blame for anything, its always others

Steve Gligorijevic

pre 12 godina

adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!

alban

pre 12 godina

It seems to me Serbia has a very simple choice, EU or Kosovo. it can't have both. The Union demands normalization of affair with your neighbors, Serbia does not enjoy such relations with Kosovo. I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We know what you want Tadic. But you will not get it ;)

Kosovo north or south will not be a part of Serbia. Kosovo will stay independent and that's the end of the story!!

We don't care about your ''red lines'' because Serbia is not in a position to have such lines because of what Serbia did in Kosovo against the albanian population in 1998-99. You wrelly think we have forgotten ??


If you want some kind of peace recognize Kosovo then. If you don't want peace then don't recognize Kosovo!

Andy UK

pre 12 godina

There's 2 comments on this story, one says Tadic is a greater Serbian nationalist and the other says he's bowing to his western masters.I know politicians split opinion, but that's laughable.

wtf

pre 12 godina

There must be some misunderstanding here, Tadic has no option to "discuss" anything with his western masters. Listen and obey is what he does. Any free, sovereign and democratic government,big or small, should have protected its citizens first and foremost, and sent in the tanks and airborne troops to do so.

The NATO cowards,true to their nature in case of possible (in this case certain for sure)losses, would then have backed off until the conflict could be settled by legitimate means. The Kosovo Serbs should apply for Russian citizenship and gain Russian protection until a democratic free government of Serbia´s own choosing resides in Belgrade.

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).

wtf

pre 12 godina

There must be some misunderstanding here, Tadic has no option to "discuss" anything with his western masters. Listen and obey is what he does. Any free, sovereign and democratic government,big or small, should have protected its citizens first and foremost, and sent in the tanks and airborne troops to do so.

The NATO cowards,true to their nature in case of possible (in this case certain for sure)losses, would then have backed off until the conflict could be settled by legitimate means. The Kosovo Serbs should apply for Russian citizenship and gain Russian protection until a democratic free government of Serbia´s own choosing resides in Belgrade.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We know what you want Tadic. But you will not get it ;)

Kosovo north or south will not be a part of Serbia. Kosovo will stay independent and that's the end of the story!!

We don't care about your ''red lines'' because Serbia is not in a position to have such lines because of what Serbia did in Kosovo against the albanian population in 1998-99. You wrelly think we have forgotten ??


If you want some kind of peace recognize Kosovo then. If you don't want peace then don't recognize Kosovo!

alban

pre 12 godina

and mr Steve Gligorijevic is the typical Serb who believes in odd conspiracy theories that the US started the whole thing. its never Serbia or the Serbs. let's recap.
read ANY and I do mean ANY White House statement from 1991 (which is when Kosovo first declared independence) and it asserts Serbia's territorial right over Kosovo. ask yourself this, what changed? did the US & Western Europe change, or did Serbia create an untenable situation? no no, its easier to believe in the new world order (whatever the hell that is) then to actually think critically and realize that Serbia's losing of Kosovo was the responsibility of Serbia itself. It was not the US & EU that revoked Kosovo's autonomy (which is what Serbia is offering the Kosovar's now). It was not the US & EU that dismissed Albanian workers from public offices, banned Albanian road signs and established a police state. but no no, we all know the Serbs were just victims of a grander Western design. Serbia is never to blame for anything, its always others

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).

alban

pre 12 godina

It seems to me Serbia has a very simple choice, EU or Kosovo. it can't have both. The Union demands normalization of affair with your neighbors, Serbia does not enjoy such relations with Kosovo. I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.

Andy UK

pre 12 godina

There's 2 comments on this story, one says Tadic is a greater Serbian nationalist and the other says he's bowing to his western masters.I know politicians split opinion, but that's laughable.

Steve Gligorijevic

pre 12 godina

adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!

Engineer

pre 12 godina

adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!
(Steve Gligorijevic, 30 September 2011 12:32)

Steve so brave of you to want to bring Serbian solders to the border but you can not not allowed, kumanovo agreement does not allow Serbian military within 5Km of Kosovo if they need to go for some reason that portion need permission from NATO. You lost the war so sorry you can not dictat terms. I want to understand one thing from Serbian side:

1. In Kosovo south live more Serbs than in north Kosovo 40k in North 120K in South. How can you say the ones in South can live under Athasarih plan but the ones in north not since Serbs do not want and ca not live under K-albanina rule.

2. Say North splits what will happen to Serbs south of Ibar why should Albanians give them more rights then get ready to accept them in the north or Serbia.

3. Churches let them come pick them up and bring them in North or Serbia proper if you can not live with Albanians why should you visit them?

So as you see Serbia has not thought this through compromise for Serbia is only their way and I am sorry its not possible.

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.

Ataman

pre 12 godina

Tadic should rather discuss with his allies partition of Clinton. Wait, he has no allies. Bad luck.
Good, if no allies - than discuss with Clinton the best way the Pride Parade should be organized or the July 4 celebration next year. Why not?

Comm. Parisson

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).
(adrian kola, 30 September 2011 09:41)

Rest assured Mr Thaqi and all his nationalist 'Indipindint Kosovo' cronies that if the expansion of Albanian 'structures' to the North of Kosovo will continue, another conflict will occur. Fortunately, the tiny piece of land called Kosovo is just not important enough for a World War III :-).

Canadian Serb

pre 12 godina

I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.
(alban, 30 September 2011 12:05)

Hi Alban!

So you find it hard to understand why Serbs are fighting so hard for Kosovo. Just look at the Serbian history, and it all revolves around the serbian holly land of Kosovo.
Miloshevic takes your autonomy and your people( elite respectable kosovo Albanians) with the help of west ethnically cleanse and murder (for organs) the remaining Serbian population that believed Thaci/Clinton were there for multicultural Kosovo!
KLA..is a joke, without the help from NATO, there would be no KLA, and no muslim Kosovo! There is no if,ands or buts!

I agree who ever said it, since Belgrade does not support it's people in Kosovo, than Serbs in Kosovo, any way possible must seek help and protection from their mother Russia.

Mr. David J. Jones

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.

JohnBoy

pre 12 godina

This is why tadic is out next year no matter how many Serbian flags he drapes himself in. HATO is trying to kill Serbs in kosovo and tadic is in america kissing hillary's backside. she didn't hear anything new -- who gives a rat's ass what she thinks.

SerbNik

pre 12 godina

Albanian apologist here shoud comment on how they plan to apologise to Serbs for the war crimes they commited. One,the panda bat massacre was the most cowardly move in the entire history of war,only nazy germans use to kill children.
Two,your warlords are being arested but someone is killing protected vitnesses for them,both must be sent to the death penalty.

Three, Serbs are far FAR more tolerant then albanians. I've seen an albanian insult Serbia in the midle of Novi Sad and he was just deported. If a Serb did that in Albania he would be killed and his organs sold.
Four,every journalist that spoke of Serbs as some evil and albanians,croats and bosnians as good (all westner writers) shoud be fired and sent to trial. You don't have the right to brain wash people to justify killing of civilians and NATO has killed thousends of civilians on purpose.

SAY NO TO TERRORISM! SAY NO TO AMERICA!

Ma Kakvi Rusi

pre 12 godina

All Russians want is to buy us with some funny money because they are brothers, they love us, they will protect us ... remember 1999 We were sold for $ 1.2 billion to Americans, and later they ran into Kosovo as the winners, just to pull out. Why they didnt hold on to Kosovo for us? ... And how long will it be before we rush from one to another, to NATO, to Russians, to Chinese... none are serious to understand and to help us? Sit right where you are, In EUROPE. Serbia is rich enough to be self-reliant. While the dream of billions, we do not have 100 dinars in my pocket. The constant wars, people always die, and those who "lupaju" the most, the greatest "patriots", sit in BG in the Assembly or as the directors of companies ... none of them were in the war, none of them died for this country. And when listening to them ....

Engineer

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?

PRO-SERBIA

pre 12 godina

Mr. Tadic! Stop dealing with the americans. they have no interest to Serbia and only served the Albanians. they will love to see Serbia to be fragmented / divided further. Stick with Russia and China.

Mr. David J. Jones

pre 12 godina

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?
(Engineer, 1 October 2011 05:03)

AMERICAN...with a command of the English language of someone who uses it as a second language. However, that is secondary to this discussion. So you say 'I' cannot afford a power plant. You are 100% right but I could never see the need for one so declined to put away my bonus for that eventuality. My local 66KV substation offers more than I need for my simple life running 'yep, you guessed it....teams of construction engineers, QS's, designers etc with a much broader portfolio than power stations.

As I insinuated yesterday, give me 1 Serbian engineer for 100 albanian (engineers) and I will be a happy man. You see Mr Engineer, Serbs are just like us Scots...We have a history of engineering excellence that can never be erased. We are all born with that inquisative mind, to explore the unknown. We are also very proud peoples and I am glad to be associated with a similar nation to my own.

As for my solution. It's easy. No exchange of any land as the Albanians have nothing to offer. Kosovo is Serbia as is Serbia is Serbia and Scotland is Scotland. Sooner or later this will become evident once Kosovo has been left in limbo for a number of years.

Now, if your looking for work drop me a line and I'll see what I can do for you. However, unless you have Celtic or Slavic roots I doubt you would meet the entrance requirements. As for the American construction industry - it's just like the central Pristia economy - DEAD.

alban

pre 12 godina

I genuinely think Serb posters here feel Serbia did NOTHING wrong. they sincerely seem to believe that the West purely and simply played a game and Serbia was just an unfortunate victim in their evil scheming. well...good luck living in denial

adrian kola

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).

wtf

pre 12 godina

There must be some misunderstanding here, Tadic has no option to "discuss" anything with his western masters. Listen and obey is what he does. Any free, sovereign and democratic government,big or small, should have protected its citizens first and foremost, and sent in the tanks and airborne troops to do so.

The NATO cowards,true to their nature in case of possible (in this case certain for sure)losses, would then have backed off until the conflict could be settled by legitimate means. The Kosovo Serbs should apply for Russian citizenship and gain Russian protection until a democratic free government of Serbia´s own choosing resides in Belgrade.

Demi

pre 12 godina

We know what you want Tadic. But you will not get it ;)

Kosovo north or south will not be a part of Serbia. Kosovo will stay independent and that's the end of the story!!

We don't care about your ''red lines'' because Serbia is not in a position to have such lines because of what Serbia did in Kosovo against the albanian population in 1998-99. You wrelly think we have forgotten ??


If you want some kind of peace recognize Kosovo then. If you don't want peace then don't recognize Kosovo!

Steve Gligorijevic

pre 12 godina

adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!

alban

pre 12 godina

and mr Steve Gligorijevic is the typical Serb who believes in odd conspiracy theories that the US started the whole thing. its never Serbia or the Serbs. let's recap.
read ANY and I do mean ANY White House statement from 1991 (which is when Kosovo first declared independence) and it asserts Serbia's territorial right over Kosovo. ask yourself this, what changed? did the US & Western Europe change, or did Serbia create an untenable situation? no no, its easier to believe in the new world order (whatever the hell that is) then to actually think critically and realize that Serbia's losing of Kosovo was the responsibility of Serbia itself. It was not the US & EU that revoked Kosovo's autonomy (which is what Serbia is offering the Kosovar's now). It was not the US & EU that dismissed Albanian workers from public offices, banned Albanian road signs and established a police state. but no no, we all know the Serbs were just victims of a grander Western design. Serbia is never to blame for anything, its always others

Canadian Serb

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I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.
(alban, 30 September 2011 12:05)

Hi Alban!

So you find it hard to understand why Serbs are fighting so hard for Kosovo. Just look at the Serbian history, and it all revolves around the serbian holly land of Kosovo.
Miloshevic takes your autonomy and your people( elite respectable kosovo Albanians) with the help of west ethnically cleanse and murder (for organs) the remaining Serbian population that believed Thaci/Clinton were there for multicultural Kosovo!
KLA..is a joke, without the help from NATO, there would be no KLA, and no muslim Kosovo! There is no if,ands or buts!

I agree who ever said it, since Belgrade does not support it's people in Kosovo, than Serbs in Kosovo, any way possible must seek help and protection from their mother Russia.

alban

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It seems to me Serbia has a very simple choice, EU or Kosovo. it can't have both. The Union demands normalization of affair with your neighbors, Serbia does not enjoy such relations with Kosovo. I seriously find it hard to understand how Serbs can possibly believe they have right to ownership over Kosovo. They lost it with their own policies of the 90's. They revoked what autonomy the Albanian populace enjoyed, began a repressive campaign that radicalized the Albanians even further and when there was armed resistance from splinter groups (that is all that the KLA was) they turned on the WHOLE population instead of isolating those few armed men and getting them on trial. that's what turned the KLA into a very popular guerilla movement, Serbia's own policies. now, you come on internet forums and cry foul. bizarre.

Engineer

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adrian kola you talk of greater Serbia but what is actually happening is the USA and NATO are trying to create a greater Albania and an expantion of the American empire. NATO have deliberately put Serbia's old enemies, namely German, Italian troops on it's borders to provoke a conflict. If Tadic and his idiots had any backbone they would have gone in to protect the Serbian civilians. NATO and the USA are the criminal element here and anyone who cant see this is a blind fool. It is Nato led by the USA that are the perpetrators of this current and past tension. They are forcing upon smaller nations thier so called new world order. If any nation starts a new world war it will be the criminals leaders of the USA, that is thier aim WORLD DOMINATION!!
If Serbia puts it's tanks and troops on the border maybe NATO will think twice before shooting at unarmed Serbian civilians. Serbia might be small but remember they have been in this position before and have always prevailed in the end, they will do so again. Shame on the USA and thier NATO puppets.
KOSOVO is Serbia and it will always be so. The nazis failed, the Turks failed and so will the Americans in the end. KOSOVO always was Serbia and nobody in the USA will ever change that fact. ZIVELA SERBIA!!
(Steve Gligorijevic, 30 September 2011 12:32)

Steve so brave of you to want to bring Serbian solders to the border but you can not not allowed, kumanovo agreement does not allow Serbian military within 5Km of Kosovo if they need to go for some reason that portion need permission from NATO. You lost the war so sorry you can not dictat terms. I want to understand one thing from Serbian side:

1. In Kosovo south live more Serbs than in north Kosovo 40k in North 120K in South. How can you say the ones in South can live under Athasarih plan but the ones in north not since Serbs do not want and ca not live under K-albanina rule.

2. Say North splits what will happen to Serbs south of Ibar why should Albanians give them more rights then get ready to accept them in the north or Serbia.

3. Churches let them come pick them up and bring them in North or Serbia proper if you can not live with Albanians why should you visit them?

So as you see Serbia has not thought this through compromise for Serbia is only their way and I am sorry its not possible.

Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.

Ataman

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Tadic should rather discuss with his allies partition of Clinton. Wait, he has no allies. Bad luck.
Good, if no allies - than discuss with Clinton the best way the Pride Parade should be organized or the July 4 celebration next year. Why not?

Comm. Parisson

pre 12 godina

Rest assured Mr Tadic and all his nationalist 'Greater Serbia' cronies that if Kosova is partitioned another conflict will ensue. And then who knows maybe World War III will begin :-).
(adrian kola, 30 September 2011 09:41)

Rest assured Mr Thaqi and all his nationalist 'Indipindint Kosovo' cronies that if the expansion of Albanian 'structures' to the North of Kosovo will continue, another conflict will occur. Fortunately, the tiny piece of land called Kosovo is just not important enough for a World War III :-).

JohnBoy

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This is why tadic is out next year no matter how many Serbian flags he drapes himself in. HATO is trying to kill Serbs in kosovo and tadic is in america kissing hillary's backside. she didn't hear anything new -- who gives a rat's ass what she thinks.

Mr. David J. Jones

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Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.

Andy UK

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There's 2 comments on this story, one says Tadic is a greater Serbian nationalist and the other says he's bowing to his western masters.I know politicians split opinion, but that's laughable.

alban

pre 12 godina

I genuinely think Serb posters here feel Serbia did NOTHING wrong. they sincerely seem to believe that the West purely and simply played a game and Serbia was just an unfortunate victim in their evil scheming. well...good luck living in denial

Ma Kakvi Rusi

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All Russians want is to buy us with some funny money because they are brothers, they love us, they will protect us ... remember 1999 We were sold for $ 1.2 billion to Americans, and later they ran into Kosovo as the winners, just to pull out. Why they didnt hold on to Kosovo for us? ... And how long will it be before we rush from one to another, to NATO, to Russians, to Chinese... none are serious to understand and to help us? Sit right where you are, In EUROPE. Serbia is rich enough to be self-reliant. While the dream of billions, we do not have 100 dinars in my pocket. The constant wars, people always die, and those who "lupaju" the most, the greatest "patriots", sit in BG in the Assembly or as the directors of companies ... none of them were in the war, none of them died for this country. And when listening to them ....

SerbNik

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Albanian apologist here shoud comment on how they plan to apologise to Serbs for the war crimes they commited. One,the panda bat massacre was the most cowardly move in the entire history of war,only nazy germans use to kill children.
Two,your warlords are being arested but someone is killing protected vitnesses for them,both must be sent to the death penalty.

Three, Serbs are far FAR more tolerant then albanians. I've seen an albanian insult Serbia in the midle of Novi Sad and he was just deported. If a Serb did that in Albania he would be killed and his organs sold.
Four,every journalist that spoke of Serbs as some evil and albanians,croats and bosnians as good (all westner writers) shoud be fired and sent to trial. You don't have the right to brain wash people to justify killing of civilians and NATO has killed thousends of civilians on purpose.

SAY NO TO TERRORISM! SAY NO TO AMERICA!

Engineer

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Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?

Mr. David J. Jones

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Why not exchange territory give Kosovo Presevo Bujanovc and medvege and take north population is similar region similar win / win that Serbai is been calling for so long.
(Engineer, 30 September 2011 14:22)

That is why I never used Albanian engineers when I was there, your reasoning is flawed just like your design & construction.
(Mr. David J. Jones, 30 September 2011 23:28)

Sorry but I am a American engineer and I design power plants something you not able to afford neither my design or constructions. so sorry maybe better luck next time with trying to say something you cant acheive.

What do you offer for solution Mr. Jones?
(Engineer, 1 October 2011 05:03)

AMERICAN...with a command of the English language of someone who uses it as a second language. However, that is secondary to this discussion. So you say 'I' cannot afford a power plant. You are 100% right but I could never see the need for one so declined to put away my bonus for that eventuality. My local 66KV substation offers more than I need for my simple life running 'yep, you guessed it....teams of construction engineers, QS's, designers etc with a much broader portfolio than power stations.

As I insinuated yesterday, give me 1 Serbian engineer for 100 albanian (engineers) and I will be a happy man. You see Mr Engineer, Serbs are just like us Scots...We have a history of engineering excellence that can never be erased. We are all born with that inquisative mind, to explore the unknown. We are also very proud peoples and I am glad to be associated with a similar nation to my own.

As for my solution. It's easy. No exchange of any land as the Albanians have nothing to offer. Kosovo is Serbia as is Serbia is Serbia and Scotland is Scotland. Sooner or later this will become evident once Kosovo has been left in limbo for a number of years.

Now, if your looking for work drop me a line and I'll see what I can do for you. However, unless you have Celtic or Slavic roots I doubt you would meet the entrance requirements. As for the American construction industry - it's just like the central Pristia economy - DEAD.

PRO-SERBIA

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Mr. Tadic! Stop dealing with the americans. they have no interest to Serbia and only served the Albanians. they will love to see Serbia to be fragmented / divided further. Stick with Russia and China.