Demands for citizenship on increase

Diaspora Ministry and the one of Internal Affairs should not and must not rush in giving out Serbian passports to the individuals without serious check: Turks asking for Serbian passports on the heritage base ? Ridiculous.

Just had a chance to read that Kosovo Albanians, mainly from Pristina, are going to nearby Serbian administrative town of Gracanica and asking for Serbian passports?!
And do they really get them from our authorities "for nothing?
Receiving Serbian passport by Kosovo Albanians can be possible, but only when every and single one of this Kosovo Albanians signs first a personal declaration that he or she is recognizing Serbia for his only and legitimate State and as well denounces so called Kosovo "independence"!

If we are, in contrary, handing out Serbian passports to Kosovo Albanians "just like that" and without the "statement of loyality" then we don't deserve anything better then to go under the "visas" yet and again and it will probably happen if this ridiculous and mad pattern of running the state affairs continues.

Dean SRB,

So my family living in Krajina in Croatia should NOT enjoy any of the benefits of citizenship unless they sign an Oath of Loyalty to the Croatian State? I’m sure you see how offensive that would be.

If we are to integrate the Albanians back into the Serbian state in some fashion, you have to treat them with some form of respect.

Regardless, this is great news. Sounds like the wife and kids and her family can get Serbian citizenship. Bosnian citizenship is sort of a dead end, it’ll never get into the EU, or at least it will be the last.

Ironic if you think about it. The EU is trying to punish RS for not integrating into Bosnia by holding back on EU membership when the citizens will be able to get the vast majority of the same rights they want by getting EU citizenship through possessing Serbian citizenship.

my question is are they serbian as in Serbian orthodox are or they bosniaks from the region.

dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not.

The only place a Kosovar citizen might be able to receive dual citizenship is through the office in Nis. Considering the fact that no one can travel with a Kosovan Passport, the only option left to get into Serbia proper would be with UNMIK travel document (no one has) or an ex-yugo documentation (some have).

"...Dean SRB,

So my family living in Krajina in Croatia should NOT enjoy any of the benefits of citizenship unless they sign an Oath of Loyalty to the Croatian State? I’m sure you see how offensive that would be...

Matthew, 31 January 2010 20:10)"

>>> As I could recall that is exactly what Croatian State was asking from all the Croatian Serbs if they wanted to get Croatian citizenship and passports: to sign so called "domovnica"...as the Croats called it.

Apart of that, issue with Kosovo Albanians is fundamentally different if I may enlighten you.
Namely just about 99.99% of them do not recognize Serbian State, but now some of them are running just to misuse Serbian passport and visa free travel: yes..that can, but only by signing "loyalty statement". More then logical and for our Serbian State productive step: Kosovo Albanians welcome back home...just a simple truthful signature of loyalty is needed.

""...dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not....

(KOSOVARi, 31 January 2010 22:05)

>>> Mentioned information about Kosovo Albanians picking up Serbian passports in Gracanica is sourced from web pages "KLAN KOSOVA" and "Southeast European Times".

New serbian biometric passports are no use to K-Serbs, let alone the K-Albanians.

Matthew, swearing an oath of loyalty is absolutely in line with convention the world over and Serbia should demand nothing less from applicants. Their being Albanian or "Turkish" must not interfere with the practice. Likewise for Croatian Serbs. I swore loyalty to Queen Elizabeth II and Canada in both French and English before I was given the privilege of having Canadian citizenship.

There's no rights without duties/responsibilities as far as I am aware and it ought to remain so.

Albanians from Serbia are off the Schengen White List despite having Serbian citizenship and passports. It is a disgrace and an act of blatant discrimination against Serbian citizens on the basis of their ethnic background, but it should be taken up with Brussels, not with Belgrade.

""...dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not....

(KOSOVARi, 31 January 2010 22:05)

>>> Mentioned information about Kosovo Albanians picking up Serbian passports in Gracanica is sourced from web pages "KLAN KOSOVA" and "Southeast European Times".
(dean SRB, 1 February 2010 02:15)

Some seem to write things as they wish it would be, not as they are. Gracanica is running business as usual through its proper Serbian institutions. You should have known that, Kosovari.

I agree with you Matthew, too many people want to talk politics without realising how the application of it affects the people they say they support.

Its so easy to talk about what Serbian citizens must do to prove loyalty, but as you point out, this means the same treatment can be expected of Serbs in other countries.

There was a time in the Balkans when it was believed that Serbs in Bosnia, Croatia were dictating Serbian policy. Now that so many (Serbs and non-Serbs) have been cleansed we are to forget about the rights of those left behind?
No, thank you.

Banacanin,

As an immigrant typically you do, but as a natural born citizen, you do not and never should.

Dean SRB, yeah I know what Croatia did in the past and why we had to fight, I have plenty of family there, that was exactly my point. Do you support what Tudjman did to the Serbs? Now you want to do the same type of thing to Albanians.

Would you guys force Serbians (or just pesky Albanians) to swear allegiance to the state or lose their citizenship, so they’d become fully stateless?

Diaspora Ministry and the one of Internal Affairs should not and must not rush in giving out Serbian passports to the individuals without serious check: Turks asking for Serbian passports on the heritage base ? Ridiculous.

Just had a chance to read that Kosovo Albanians, mainly from Pristina, are going to nearby Serbian administrative town of Gracanica and asking for Serbian passports?!
And do they really get them from our authorities "for nothing?
Receiving Serbian passport by Kosovo Albanians can be possible, but only when every and single one of this Kosovo Albanians signs first a personal declaration that he or she is recognizing Serbia for his only and legitimate State and as well denounces so called Kosovo "independence"!

If we are, in contrary, handing out Serbian passports to Kosovo Albanians "just like that" and without the "statement of loyality" then we don't deserve anything better then to go under the "visas" yet and again and it will probably happen if this ridiculous and mad pattern of running the state affairs continues.

dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not.

The only place a Kosovar citizen might be able to receive dual citizenship is through the office in Nis. Considering the fact that no one can travel with a Kosovan Passport, the only option left to get into Serbia proper would be with UNMIK travel document (no one has) or an ex-yugo documentation (some have).

my question is are they serbian as in Serbian orthodox are or they bosniaks from the region.

Dean SRB,

So my family living in Krajina in Croatia should NOT enjoy any of the benefits of citizenship unless they sign an Oath of Loyalty to the Croatian State? I’m sure you see how offensive that would be.

If we are to integrate the Albanians back into the Serbian state in some fashion, you have to treat them with some form of respect.

Regardless, this is great news. Sounds like the wife and kids and her family can get Serbian citizenship. Bosnian citizenship is sort of a dead end, it’ll never get into the EU, or at least it will be the last.

Ironic if you think about it. The EU is trying to punish RS for not integrating into Bosnia by holding back on EU membership when the citizens will be able to get the vast majority of the same rights they want by getting EU citizenship through possessing Serbian citizenship.

New serbian biometric passports are no use to K-Serbs, let alone the K-Albanians.

""...dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not....

(KOSOVARi, 31 January 2010 22:05)

>>> Mentioned information about Kosovo Albanians picking up Serbian passports in Gracanica is sourced from web pages "KLAN KOSOVA" and "Southeast European Times".

""...dean,

that would be possible if the parallel structure in Gracanica was operating...which it is not....

(KOSOVARi, 31 January 2010 22:05)

>>> Mentioned information about Kosovo Albanians picking up Serbian passports in Gracanica is sourced from web pages "KLAN KOSOVA" and "Southeast European Times".
(dean SRB, 1 February 2010 02:15)

Some seem to write things as they wish it would be, not as they are. Gracanica is running business as usual through its proper Serbian institutions. You should have known that, Kosovari.

Matthew, swearing an oath of loyalty is absolutely in line with convention the world over and Serbia should demand nothing less from applicants. Their being Albanian or "Turkish" must not interfere with the practice. Likewise for Croatian Serbs. I swore loyalty to Queen Elizabeth II and Canada in both French and English before I was given the privilege of having Canadian citizenship.

There's no rights without duties/responsibilities as far as I am aware and it ought to remain so.

Albanians from Serbia are off the Schengen White List despite having Serbian citizenship and passports. It is a disgrace and an act of blatant discrimination against Serbian citizens on the basis of their ethnic background, but it should be taken up with Brussels, not with Belgrade.

"...Dean SRB,

So my family living in Krajina in Croatia should NOT enjoy any of the benefits of citizenship unless they sign an Oath of Loyalty to the Croatian State? I’m sure you see how offensive that would be...

Matthew, 31 January 2010 20:10)"

>>> As I could recall that is exactly what Croatian State was asking from all the Croatian Serbs if they wanted to get Croatian citizenship and passports: to sign so called "domovnica"...as the Croats called it.

Apart of that, issue with Kosovo Albanians is fundamentally different if I may enlighten you.
Namely just about 99.99% of them do not recognize Serbian State, but now some of them are running just to misuse Serbian passport and visa free travel: yes..that can, but only by signing "loyalty statement". More then logical and for our Serbian State productive step: Kosovo Albanians welcome back home...just a simple truthful signature of loyalty is needed.

Banacanin,

As an immigrant typically you do, but as a natural born citizen, you do not and never should.

Dean SRB, yeah I know what Croatia did in the past and why we had to fight, I have plenty of family there, that was exactly my point. Do you support what Tudjman did to the Serbs? Now you want to do the same type of thing to Albanians.

Would you guys force Serbians (or just pesky Albanians) to swear allegiance to the state or lose their citizenship, so they’d become fully stateless?

I agree with you Matthew, too many people want to talk politics without realising how the application of it affects the people they say they support.

Its so easy to talk about what Serbian citizens must do to prove loyalty, but as you point out, this means the same treatment can be expected of Serbs in other countries.

There was a time in the Balkans when it was believed that Serbs in Bosnia, Croatia were dictating Serbian policy. Now that so many (Serbs and non-Serbs) have been cleansed we are to forget about the rights of those left behind?
No, thank you.