Montenegro optimistic of NATO acceptance

We did not predict the results of the meeting, but I really think that I am not harboring an unrealistic optimism if in the end, after all these assessments and great dedication to European and Euro-Atlantic goals, and as a results of recognitions and further support for progress towards full-fledged NATO membership, we are accepted in the action plan for membership by the end of the year,” Đukanović said.

B91

The sooner the better Milo.NATO needs you to fight the neocons wars in Afganistan and elsewhere and also the US arms manufacturers to sell you their products of terror.So harry up,NATO needs the Balkan puppet countrylets.

I just hope you'll be as eager as Obama and Gordon Brown are to receive the bodybags when they start arriving back from Afganistan.

With neighbours like Croatia and Albania NATO membership is a good thing for Montenegro.
Sure is sure,not that we are scared,on the contrary,but we must take all steps to strengthen our position...

Njegos will be spinning in his grave. Its a shame that this once proud people in Montenegro will now bend over totally for their Brussels and Washington masters and try to join the war criminal organisation NATO, but ok, if thats what they want I suggest they join Georgias example and send soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight for the americans.
I vacationed in Montenegro last year, never again, next year Greece will recive my tourist euros.

According to recent polls, thats,to say the least, a very miss-leading headline B92.

Djukanovic & his gang will maybe feel upbeat about the chances to fulfill what they where installed for but Montenegrins are just about as happy as the crimeans to join the infamous aggression-pact. Recent developments and the imploding decline of the western agressors and russias increasing influence, shows clearly that the tides are turning.

Fruitless attemp,t as I can see, by that future convict.

Nato knows well that, after future unification of Montenegro with its big brother Serbia, Montenegro would consequently become first country to leave Nato, so they want to avoid that.
Good thinking Rasmunssen. No Serbs ever in Nato.

Montenegro optimistic of NATO acceptance
--
I think it's more like NATO optimistic of Montenegro acceptance (with our puppet Đukanović in power).

dean van der serbia,

I really mean it,believe me or not,if necessary we Montenegrins will fight on our own if attacked.
History has proven that we don`t avoid a fight .

But my point is:

Why constantly be on your own or on the "wrong" side while your potential foes have such powerful allies like NATO and the US?

Ask yourself how it always happens that Serbia is so often on their own or always has the biggest powers acting AGAINST her interests while Croats and Albanians ALWAYS have more powerful allies supporting them!

And logic of some pro-Djukanovic XXI century Montenegrins we know very well: Russians to build them the coastline and hotels, Serbians then to spend their money on Montenegrin coastline and Nato and US to defend them...
(dean van der serbia)

Spot on !

Yes,we don`t care about morality or principles but want to survive and thrive in a dangerous environment like the Balcans.
And for that you need to acommodate yourself to the circumstances and collaborate with the strongest players,not against them.

It is good to be strong,it is better to be strong and smart.

Simply Montenegro wants to be part of EU quickly...As history teaches be a Nato member helps..
So they are closer to their goal..If Montenegro will receive Nato membership i can't understand any reunification talk..you will be bombed again ...it's clear

The Russians currently hold 30% of Montenegro’s economy and the Serbia another 30%, to join NATO would be economic suicide for this tiny state. Montenegro is already feeling some economic hardship as a result of less revenue from their Serbian brothers because they recognized Kosovo, to take this additional step would all but end Montenegro as a country.

Talking about "right side" and "powerful friends"... The coward western powers are not any, specially not balkan peopels friends, they are just (as always & with truckloads of empty promises) after a nice peace of *ss to exploit.

Serbia on the other hand do not have to bend over backwards to get something, they have REAL powerful friends in terms of money, military might and moral, like Russia China India Venezuela and the rest of the free world. Montenegrinos will get the picture and come back to their brothers eventually...

"...Why constantly be on your own or on the "wrong" side while your potential foes have such powerful allies like NATO and the US?

Ask yourself how it always happens that Serbia is so often on their own or always has the biggest powers acting AGAINST her interests while Croats and Albanians ALWAYS have more powerful allies supporting them!
(CG, 28 November 2009 17:37)..."


>>> When we are not with Nato, God forbid, we are surely not on the wrong, but very much on the right side. Joining that neo-colonial western military machine Serbians will do never.

And logic of some pro-Djukanovic XXI century Montenegrins we know very well: Russians to build them the coastline and hotels, Serbians then to spend their money on Montenegrin coastline and Nato and US to defend them...and in the meantime Montenegrins themselves to do as less as it is possible.
Seen all in comedies called "Foliranti".

Wish you good luck with it, but without Serbians in that scenario.

"...With neighbours like Croatia and Albania NATO membership is a good thing for Montenegro.
Sure is sure,NOT THAT WE ARE SCARED,ON THE CONTRARY,but we must take all steps to strengthen our position...
(CG, 28 November 2009 13:11) ..."

>>>Hehe...what do you say Mr.CG? ...Hehe...
"...not that we are scared, on the contrary..."

This is hilarious. Directly for "Foliranti" series to be the winning episode.

As somebody has mentioned: Njegos would certainly turn in his grave if he would have a chance to hear the "talks of bravery" by some XXI century Montenegrins.

Joke of the day for me.

'I vacationed in Montenegro last year, never again, next year Greece will recive my tourist euros.
(Srboslav, 28 November 2009 14:02) '

You should have no trouble finding accommodations, in that event: "The tourist trade is withering, down 20pc last season by revenue. Turkey was up. It is hard to pin down how much is a currency effect, but clearly Greece has priced itself out of the Club Med market." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6630117/Greece-tests-the-limit-of-sovereign-debt-as-it-grinds-towards-slump.html . The Greeks should be grateful to vacationing Serbs patriotically avoiding Montenegro, Croatia, Turkey ...

RE: WWI-True Montenegrin Heroes

During WWI, the Serbian army was forced to retreat through Albania with the help of Albanian leader Essad Pascha although he did not have control of many of the Albanian extremist clans who harrassed the Serbian army.

The retreat into Albania and eventually to Corfu would not have been possible if it wasn't for the gallant effort of the Montenegrin army which fought to the last man against the Austro-Hungarian and German armies who wanted to cut off the Serbian retreat.

Serbia paid the ultimate price in WWI for it's freedom as well as WWII. See Below;

Total casualites by Country (Allies)

# 1 Russia: 6,761,000
# 2 France: 5,663,800
# 3 United Kingdom: 2,548,573
# 4 Italy: 1,604,896
# 5 Serbia and Montenegro: 408,148

The Greeks should be grateful to vacationing Serbs patriotically avoiding Montenegro, Croatia, Turkey ...
(Amer, 28 November 2009 19:57)

I never was a fan of patriotic vacation. Serbia's biggest and most devoted friends aren't either.

http://tinyurl.com/ye9h5zs
http://tinyurl.com/y8vzngr

Politics are politics, but differences in opinion should be left out from private life.

"... South Korea and tiny Montenegro have indicated a willingness to contribute more troops to the US-led force in Afghanistan." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvVxH2bO7ISttMgeyDnDAm3lpLqgD9C7VJL80

That should help. And after the terrorist attack on the Moscow--St.-Petersburg train, Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.

"...Spot on !

Yes,we don`t care about morality or principles but want to survive and thrive in a dangerous environment like the Balcans.
And for that you need to acommodate yourself to the circumstances and collaborate with the strongest players,not against them.

It is good to be strong,it is better to be strong and smart.
(CG, 28 November 2009 19:21)..."


>>> Yep, I spotted very good indeed and unfortunately.

With CG-s of your type our holy Montenegrin Serb Njegos is turning in his grave in disbelieve and shame.

"...Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 20:05) ..."


>>> Sorry Amer, but you just illustrated with above fundament of American not-understanding or not-willingness to understand the core of the problem.

Americans are in Afghanistan or wherever not to fight terrorism and make the World better place, but to make it suite American fancy and interests.

It looks like everybody understand it apart of you-Americans.
Last and final fact for you-US is to realise that you cannot, you don't have the power to do it, manage it yourself.
Afghanistan will prove this simple fact the best, because for US that is lost war.
And in the future US will be having nobody, not even always fateful Britain (after completing of British Iraqi involvement investigation) to follow you in your neo-colonial, and not anti-terrorist wars.
Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US.
So not that they are terrorist, but rather American imperialist politics, now on its dead bed.
That's it.

That should help. And after the terrorist attack on the Moscow--St.-Petersburg train, Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 20:05)

I did not comment on that sad event because I do not know and there is much speculation that if it was a terrorist attack, it had nothing to do with the usual suspects ( = Chechens).

I can tell you tough, that the new ICE "Sapsan" starting next month will mean the price of cheapest Moscow-SPB ticket will go up from $20 to $100. And some people are very-very unhappy with Putin's corrupt buddy, Yakunin who is running the railway with a lot going in his pockets.

Here is a thread you maybe find interesting to read. I did stay away from that thread, too simply because I can't say anything meaningful and all clichees about Chechen terrorists are already being said. Still, no answer yet even to the first bombing of the same train in 2007. And why precisely these Orthodox Russians are the ones who suspect these "hated" Chechens the least? Paradox, isn't it?

http://tinyurl.com/yjnz24p

We do not know, it was REALLY a bomb, how far is the conspiracy, many things do not add. If I would be a " Big Bad Nohchi Muslim Chechen™ " I would maybe wait to bomb the "Sapsan", flagship of RZD in only few weeks. Why bomb a train which is going to retire in less than 30 days?

In any case: Djukanovic would have no problem to abuse the bombing of Nevski Express to "sell" that Afghanistan thing to Montenegrins. We all know precisely, he does not care less about Afghanistan or even Nevski Express. All he cares is to get away with his maffiosi past - whatever is the price.

As for bombing of trains: he has certainly enough experience how to bomb cars. Pukanic is the witness.

As usual, two thumbs down for Milo, may he sit 25 years, well-deserved. If the death penalty would be applied, I would not protest actively.

I never was a fan of patriotic vacation. Serbia's biggest and most devoted friends aren't either.

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Politics are politics, but differences in opinion should be left out from private life.
(Ataman, 28 November 2009 22:50)

Do those russians go there( I mean Durres area) to relax or look for roots of people who played important role in their history? Seems that in one of my summer comments I may have been near the truth :

In fact every important person in history is of albanian origin.I have heard recently that even Peter the great was born in Durrës.In his childhood he spent hours watching ships that is where his passion for ships and navy came from.
(szemi, 30 June 2009 16:32)

@Ataman -

I said "terrorism" because that's what Russian officials are calling the attack on the Neva Express - I didn't name Chechens as being responsible for it. In fact, the secondary explosion intended for rescue workers reminded me most of attacks in Iraq, although it may be a common feature of all terrorist attacks these days.

There was a video at some British site, raw video footage with no commentary, and I was struck by the universality of the images: men in emergency-services consulting in small groups, rescue dogs on leashes (who knew they use Yellow Labs in Russia?), the sound of heavy machinery and helicopters overhead ... Earth, lie lightly on them all.

(dean van der serbia,

USA Won WW1 and WW2 South Korea Exist today due to USA and many more.

How many wars has Serbia won Lost in Slovenia, Croatia, I guess u can consider Bosnia a win.

It looks like the world has again too many chiefs and we are heading to some hard days the lines are Drawn lets see who wins in long run.

Rick Rozoff certainly got it right:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16311

'Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US. '

After 9/11, when al-Qaeda, which was being supported by the Taliban, did attack, why would the U.S. believe they would never attack again? Fool us once, shame on you; shame us twice, shame on us. I think we'd better finish the job.

After yesterday's terrorist attack on the train I wouldn't be surprised to find Russia taking a harder line on fighting terrorism. Where do you think the terrorists being forced out of Iraq are heading to? Not all of them will go to Afghanistan - and after Afghanistan, where will they go? The North Caucasus is a likely destination. If you've been keeping up with the Russian newspapers you must have noticed how terrorist activity has been picking up there over the past year.

"...After 9/11, when al-Qaeda, which was being supported by the Taliban, did attack, why would the U.S. believe they would never attack again? Fool us once, shame on you; shame us twice, shame on us. I think we'd better finish the job.

After yesterday's terrorist attack on the train I wouldn't be surprised to find Russia taking a harder line on fighting terrorism. Where do you think the terrorists being forced out of Iraq are heading to? Not all of them will go to Afghanistan - and after Afghanistan, where will they go? The North Caucasus is a likely destination. If you've been keeping up with the Russian newspapers you must have noticed how terrorist activity has been picking up there over the past year.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 23:32)..."


>>> "Finish the job"?
And how many people will have to die in this American pathological inquisition war or so called "finishing the job", please?

Till now half a million people died, most of them civilians, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Do you stop with million, two or three maybe?
I guess if we follow tragics of genocide against Vietnamese population that was 3 million then?

And still you will loose that war at the end.And very much most probably collaterally loose Pakistan as well.
Can I remind your ignorance that US has lost every single war after WWII if it did not mean bombing some nation to the ground. All the land wars you clearly lost! And that will happen now and all over again.

At the end and after another 3 million victims of US hunger for blood I managed to miss one information: you did won one single war on the ground indeed and that was Granada war.
Viva Las Vegas!

And now back to subject and that was Viva la Montenegro under Djukanovic dictatorship.
Talks about US deadly patriotism do make me sick usually.

"Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US.
So not that they are terrorist, but rather American imperialist politics, now on its dead bed.
That's it."
(dean van der serbia, 28 November 2009 22:11)

A proud orthodox Serb going to bed (metaphorically speaking) with Al-Qaida and the taliban. There is some confusion here...

USA Won WW1 and WW2 South Korea Exist today due to USA and many more.

How many wars has Serbia won Lost in Slovenia, Croatia, I guess u can consider Bosnia a win.

It looks like the world has again too many chiefs and we are heading to some hard days the lines are Drawn lets see who wins in long run.
(Bilbao, 29 November 2009 17:04)

Serbia never had any territorial claims in Slovenia. For that matter Serbia never went to war in Slovenia, it was withdrawing its army when the Slovinians shot at Serbs, they were trying to make themselves look big as if they were liberating themselves. They are paying for that error now and will be well into the future – no trade, no nothing.
However, in Croatia we whipped the pants off the Croats, but they have never defeated Serbs and that’s what hurts the Croats even today that they have never and, I say again, never defeated the Serbs militarily in history. During Operation storm they only murder defenseless old men and women. The Serbs withdrew their army and then the mighty Croats went in with their tanks against people that had no weapons.
You have to look at Bosnia and see that the Serbs own the best parts, all rich agricultural land that are fertile, water resources, timber etc. When you combine RS and Serbia you have 80% of the arable land, water resources and minerals in the old Yugoslavia. Most of the rest is scrap. Serbia does not have the population to claim any more territory than it already holds.

However, Croatia still has to settle its borders with Serbia, that’s not finished yet by a long shot. Why do you think Mesic is constantly crying about RS or Serbia because he knows what’s waiting from Croatia. Please don’t start with Croatia being part of NATO because that organization is on its last legs and a new one is on its way.
No, there will not be too many chiefs in the world. There will only be a few and they are not from the west either.

With neighbours like Croatia and Albania NATO membership is a good thing for Montenegro.
Sure is sure,not that we are scared,on the contrary,but we must take all steps to strengthen our position...

Fruitless attemp,t as I can see, by that future convict.

Nato knows well that, after future unification of Montenegro with its big brother Serbia, Montenegro would consequently become first country to leave Nato, so they want to avoid that.
Good thinking Rasmunssen. No Serbs ever in Nato.

Montenegro optimistic of NATO acceptance
--
I think it's more like NATO optimistic of Montenegro acceptance (with our puppet Đukanović in power).

"...With neighbours like Croatia and Albania NATO membership is a good thing for Montenegro.
Sure is sure,NOT THAT WE ARE SCARED,ON THE CONTRARY,but we must take all steps to strengthen our position...
(CG, 28 November 2009 13:11) ..."

>>>Hehe...what do you say Mr.CG? ...Hehe...
"...not that we are scared, on the contrary..."

This is hilarious. Directly for "Foliranti" series to be the winning episode.

As somebody has mentioned: Njegos would certainly turn in his grave if he would have a chance to hear the "talks of bravery" by some XXI century Montenegrins.

Joke of the day for me.

dean van der serbia,

I really mean it,believe me or not,if necessary we Montenegrins will fight on our own if attacked.
History has proven that we don`t avoid a fight .

But my point is:

Why constantly be on your own or on the "wrong" side while your potential foes have such powerful allies like NATO and the US?

Ask yourself how it always happens that Serbia is so often on their own or always has the biggest powers acting AGAINST her interests while Croats and Albanians ALWAYS have more powerful allies supporting them!

Simply Montenegro wants to be part of EU quickly...As history teaches be a Nato member helps..
So they are closer to their goal..If Montenegro will receive Nato membership i can't understand any reunification talk..you will be bombed again ...it's clear

"...Why constantly be on your own or on the "wrong" side while your potential foes have such powerful allies like NATO and the US?

Ask yourself how it always happens that Serbia is so often on their own or always has the biggest powers acting AGAINST her interests while Croats and Albanians ALWAYS have more powerful allies supporting them!
(CG, 28 November 2009 17:37)..."


>>> When we are not with Nato, God forbid, we are surely not on the wrong, but very much on the right side. Joining that neo-colonial western military machine Serbians will do never.

And logic of some pro-Djukanovic XXI century Montenegrins we know very well: Russians to build them the coastline and hotels, Serbians then to spend their money on Montenegrin coastline and Nato and US to defend them...and in the meantime Montenegrins themselves to do as less as it is possible.
Seen all in comedies called "Foliranti".

Wish you good luck with it, but without Serbians in that scenario.

Talking about "right side" and "powerful friends"... The coward western powers are not any, specially not balkan peopels friends, they are just (as always & with truckloads of empty promises) after a nice peace of *ss to exploit.

Serbia on the other hand do not have to bend over backwards to get something, they have REAL powerful friends in terms of money, military might and moral, like Russia China India Venezuela and the rest of the free world. Montenegrinos will get the picture and come back to their brothers eventually...

According to recent polls, thats,to say the least, a very miss-leading headline B92.

Djukanovic & his gang will maybe feel upbeat about the chances to fulfill what they where installed for but Montenegrins are just about as happy as the crimeans to join the infamous aggression-pact. Recent developments and the imploding decline of the western agressors and russias increasing influence, shows clearly that the tides are turning.

Njegos will be spinning in his grave. Its a shame that this once proud people in Montenegro will now bend over totally for their Brussels and Washington masters and try to join the war criminal organisation NATO, but ok, if thats what they want I suggest they join Georgias example and send soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq to fight for the americans.
I vacationed in Montenegro last year, never again, next year Greece will recive my tourist euros.

We did not predict the results of the meeting, but I really think that I am not harboring an unrealistic optimism if in the end, after all these assessments and great dedication to European and Euro-Atlantic goals, and as a results of recognitions and further support for progress towards full-fledged NATO membership, we are accepted in the action plan for membership by the end of the year,” Đukanović said.

B91

The sooner the better Milo.NATO needs you to fight the neocons wars in Afganistan and elsewhere and also the US arms manufacturers to sell you their products of terror.So harry up,NATO needs the Balkan puppet countrylets.

I just hope you'll be as eager as Obama and Gordon Brown are to receive the bodybags when they start arriving back from Afganistan.

The Russians currently hold 30% of Montenegro’s economy and the Serbia another 30%, to join NATO would be economic suicide for this tiny state. Montenegro is already feeling some economic hardship as a result of less revenue from their Serbian brothers because they recognized Kosovo, to take this additional step would all but end Montenegro as a country.

And logic of some pro-Djukanovic XXI century Montenegrins we know very well: Russians to build them the coastline and hotels, Serbians then to spend their money on Montenegrin coastline and Nato and US to defend them...
(dean van der serbia)

Spot on !

Yes,we don`t care about morality or principles but want to survive and thrive in a dangerous environment like the Balcans.
And for that you need to acommodate yourself to the circumstances and collaborate with the strongest players,not against them.

It is good to be strong,it is better to be strong and smart.

'I vacationed in Montenegro last year, never again, next year Greece will recive my tourist euros.
(Srboslav, 28 November 2009 14:02) '

You should have no trouble finding accommodations, in that event: "The tourist trade is withering, down 20pc last season by revenue. Turkey was up. It is hard to pin down how much is a currency effect, but clearly Greece has priced itself out of the Club Med market." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6630117/Greece-tests-the-limit-of-sovereign-debt-as-it-grinds-towards-slump.html . The Greeks should be grateful to vacationing Serbs patriotically avoiding Montenegro, Croatia, Turkey ...

"...Spot on !

Yes,we don`t care about morality or principles but want to survive and thrive in a dangerous environment like the Balcans.
And for that you need to acommodate yourself to the circumstances and collaborate with the strongest players,not against them.

It is good to be strong,it is better to be strong and smart.
(CG, 28 November 2009 19:21)..."


>>> Yep, I spotted very good indeed and unfortunately.

With CG-s of your type our holy Montenegrin Serb Njegos is turning in his grave in disbelieve and shame.

I never was a fan of patriotic vacation. Serbia's biggest and most devoted friends aren't either.

[link]
[link]

Politics are politics, but differences in opinion should be left out from private life.
(Ataman, 28 November 2009 22:50)

Do those russians go there( I mean Durres area) to relax or look for roots of people who played important role in their history? Seems that in one of my summer comments I may have been near the truth :

In fact every important person in history is of albanian origin.I have heard recently that even Peter the great was born in Durrës.In his childhood he spent hours watching ships that is where his passion for ships and navy came from.
(szemi, 30 June 2009 16:32)

"...After 9/11, when al-Qaeda, which was being supported by the Taliban, did attack, why would the U.S. believe they would never attack again? Fool us once, shame on you; shame us twice, shame on us. I think we'd better finish the job.

After yesterday's terrorist attack on the train I wouldn't be surprised to find Russia taking a harder line on fighting terrorism. Where do you think the terrorists being forced out of Iraq are heading to? Not all of them will go to Afghanistan - and after Afghanistan, where will they go? The North Caucasus is a likely destination. If you've been keeping up with the Russian newspapers you must have noticed how terrorist activity has been picking up there over the past year.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 23:32)..."


>>> "Finish the job"?
And how many people will have to die in this American pathological inquisition war or so called "finishing the job", please?

Till now half a million people died, most of them civilians, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Do you stop with million, two or three maybe?
I guess if we follow tragics of genocide against Vietnamese population that was 3 million then?

And still you will loose that war at the end.And very much most probably collaterally loose Pakistan as well.
Can I remind your ignorance that US has lost every single war after WWII if it did not mean bombing some nation to the ground. All the land wars you clearly lost! And that will happen now and all over again.

At the end and after another 3 million victims of US hunger for blood I managed to miss one information: you did won one single war on the ground indeed and that was Granada war.
Viva Las Vegas!

And now back to subject and that was Viva la Montenegro under Djukanovic dictatorship.
Talks about US deadly patriotism do make me sick usually.

"...Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 20:05) ..."


>>> Sorry Amer, but you just illustrated with above fundament of American not-understanding or not-willingness to understand the core of the problem.

Americans are in Afghanistan or wherever not to fight terrorism and make the World better place, but to make it suite American fancy and interests.

It looks like everybody understand it apart of you-Americans.
Last and final fact for you-US is to realise that you cannot, you don't have the power to do it, manage it yourself.
Afghanistan will prove this simple fact the best, because for US that is lost war.
And in the future US will be having nobody, not even always fateful Britain (after completing of British Iraqi involvement investigation) to follow you in your neo-colonial, and not anti-terrorist wars.
Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US.
So not that they are terrorist, but rather American imperialist politics, now on its dead bed.
That's it.

The Greeks should be grateful to vacationing Serbs patriotically avoiding Montenegro, Croatia, Turkey ...
(Amer, 28 November 2009 19:57)

I never was a fan of patriotic vacation. Serbia's biggest and most devoted friends aren't either.

http://tinyurl.com/ye9h5zs
http://tinyurl.com/y8vzngr

Politics are politics, but differences in opinion should be left out from private life.

'Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US. '

After 9/11, when al-Qaeda, which was being supported by the Taliban, did attack, why would the U.S. believe they would never attack again? Fool us once, shame on you; shame us twice, shame on us. I think we'd better finish the job.

After yesterday's terrorist attack on the train I wouldn't be surprised to find Russia taking a harder line on fighting terrorism. Where do you think the terrorists being forced out of Iraq are heading to? Not all of them will go to Afghanistan - and after Afghanistan, where will they go? The North Caucasus is a likely destination. If you've been keeping up with the Russian newspapers you must have noticed how terrorist activity has been picking up there over the past year.

"... South Korea and tiny Montenegro have indicated a willingness to contribute more troops to the US-led force in Afghanistan." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jvVxH2bO7ISttMgeyDnDAm3lpLqgD9C7VJL80

That should help. And after the terrorist attack on the Moscow--St.-Petersburg train, Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.

That should help. And after the terrorist attack on the Moscow--St.-Petersburg train, Montenegro should find it easier to explain to its people why "fighting terrorism" makes sense for a traditional Russian ally. I'd think.
(Amer, 28 November 2009 20:05)

I did not comment on that sad event because I do not know and there is much speculation that if it was a terrorist attack, it had nothing to do with the usual suspects ( = Chechens).

I can tell you tough, that the new ICE "Sapsan" starting next month will mean the price of cheapest Moscow-SPB ticket will go up from $20 to $100. And some people are very-very unhappy with Putin's corrupt buddy, Yakunin who is running the railway with a lot going in his pockets.

Here is a thread you maybe find interesting to read. I did stay away from that thread, too simply because I can't say anything meaningful and all clichees about Chechen terrorists are already being said. Still, no answer yet even to the first bombing of the same train in 2007. And why precisely these Orthodox Russians are the ones who suspect these "hated" Chechens the least? Paradox, isn't it?

http://tinyurl.com/yjnz24p

We do not know, it was REALLY a bomb, how far is the conspiracy, many things do not add. If I would be a " Big Bad Nohchi Muslim Chechen™ " I would maybe wait to bomb the "Sapsan", flagship of RZD in only few weeks. Why bomb a train which is going to retire in less than 30 days?

In any case: Djukanovic would have no problem to abuse the bombing of Nevski Express to "sell" that Afghanistan thing to Montenegrins. We all know precisely, he does not care less about Afghanistan or even Nevski Express. All he cares is to get away with his maffiosi past - whatever is the price.

As for bombing of trains: he has certainly enough experience how to bomb cars. Pukanic is the witness.

As usual, two thumbs down for Milo, may he sit 25 years, well-deserved. If the death penalty would be applied, I would not protest actively.

Rick Rozoff certainly got it right:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16311

@Ataman -

I said "terrorism" because that's what Russian officials are calling the attack on the Neva Express - I didn't name Chechens as being responsible for it. In fact, the secondary explosion intended for rescue workers reminded me most of attacks in Iraq, although it may be a common feature of all terrorist attacks these days.

There was a video at some British site, raw video footage with no commentary, and I was struck by the universality of the images: men in emergency-services consulting in small groups, rescue dogs on leashes (who knew they use Yellow Labs in Russia?), the sound of heavy machinery and helicopters overhead ... Earth, lie lightly on them all.

(dean van der serbia,

USA Won WW1 and WW2 South Korea Exist today due to USA and many more.

How many wars has Serbia won Lost in Slovenia, Croatia, I guess u can consider Bosnia a win.

It looks like the world has again too many chiefs and we are heading to some hard days the lines are Drawn lets see who wins in long run.

"Only what Taliban and Al-Qaida wants is that you leave their land. Nothing more and nothing less...and they would never attack you or want to have anything with US.
So not that they are terrorist, but rather American imperialist politics, now on its dead bed.
That's it."
(dean van der serbia, 28 November 2009 22:11)

A proud orthodox Serb going to bed (metaphorically speaking) with Al-Qaida and the taliban. There is some confusion here...

RE: WWI-True Montenegrin Heroes

During WWI, the Serbian army was forced to retreat through Albania with the help of Albanian leader Essad Pascha although he did not have control of many of the Albanian extremist clans who harrassed the Serbian army.

The retreat into Albania and eventually to Corfu would not have been possible if it wasn't for the gallant effort of the Montenegrin army which fought to the last man against the Austro-Hungarian and German armies who wanted to cut off the Serbian retreat.

Serbia paid the ultimate price in WWI for it's freedom as well as WWII. See Below;

Total casualites by Country (Allies)

# 1 Russia: 6,761,000
# 2 France: 5,663,800
# 3 United Kingdom: 2,548,573
# 4 Italy: 1,604,896
# 5 Serbia and Montenegro: 408,148

USA Won WW1 and WW2 South Korea Exist today due to USA and many more.

How many wars has Serbia won Lost in Slovenia, Croatia, I guess u can consider Bosnia a win.

It looks like the world has again too many chiefs and we are heading to some hard days the lines are Drawn lets see who wins in long run.
(Bilbao, 29 November 2009 17:04)

Serbia never had any territorial claims in Slovenia. For that matter Serbia never went to war in Slovenia, it was withdrawing its army when the Slovinians shot at Serbs, they were trying to make themselves look big as if they were liberating themselves. They are paying for that error now and will be well into the future – no trade, no nothing.
However, in Croatia we whipped the pants off the Croats, but they have never defeated Serbs and that’s what hurts the Croats even today that they have never and, I say again, never defeated the Serbs militarily in history. During Operation storm they only murder defenseless old men and women. The Serbs withdrew their army and then the mighty Croats went in with their tanks against people that had no weapons.
You have to look at Bosnia and see that the Serbs own the best parts, all rich agricultural land that are fertile, water resources, timber etc. When you combine RS and Serbia you have 80% of the arable land, water resources and minerals in the old Yugoslavia. Most of the rest is scrap. Serbia does not have the population to claim any more territory than it already holds.

However, Croatia still has to settle its borders with Serbia, that’s not finished yet by a long shot. Why do you think Mesic is constantly crying about RS or Serbia because he knows what’s waiting from Croatia. Please don’t start with Croatia being part of NATO because that organization is on its last legs and a new one is on its way.
No, there will not be too many chiefs in the world. There will only be a few and they are not from the west either.