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Thursday, 19.11.2009.

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Mesić says crime in Vukovar "planned"

The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica, Croatian President Stjepan Mesić said yesterday.

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limited

pre 16 godina

The HDZ did everything in their power to ignite the war in Vukovar and the surrounding communities. They drew first blood and destroyed peace agreements that would have formented war. I think the Nationalist Mesic was complicit with this.

todd

pre 16 godina

Vukovar was defended in the most honourable way. The assault by air land and water, from afar, was as cowardly as strapping a belt of explosives onto yourself and walking into a crowded market. Military institutions have used the defence of Vukovar as an example of how to defend a town. No military is teaching its soldiers the strategies used by the JNA and serbian paras. Unless, of course, they are teaching how to fight a loosing battle or the best ways to go AWOL while in battle.

Mr Rae

pre 16 godina

Wow, what a nonsensical statement. How does Mr Mesic suppose most militaries work? Does he think that the platoon simply goes out of the base in the morning, walks around, looking at things until they pick a target by drawing straws or flipping coins? Or perhaps is it that every single modern and ancient military is commanded and these commands are a direct result of previous planning? Perhaps he could also say that the 1991 revolution of Slovenia and Croatia were planned.
Now the nature of the outcome was certainly not planned, but more likely ignored and considered as collateral damage. Remember its only collateral damage if you win, otherwise its mass murder, but they are both exactly the same thing.
Planned indeed! I always thought that it just happened like that.

George G

pre 16 godina

I always thought that ALL the premeditation was finalized during the "tennis match" in Slovenia??? Because of that "tennis match", you will as always continue to be "ballboys".For all which choose to live in the past will "remain" there.Blaming Miloseviq for your blindness and every pimple and blister you get like the Kosovo Albanians---is not the way.Like the Man said:Truth is the way.It's the ONLY thing that will set your minds free from your illusions that you have about the Serbs and about yourselves.

Aleks

pre 16 godina

"Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime. "

poor old Mesić is still confused about the differnece between civilians and paramilitaries. From my other post:

"The three were tried over the massacre of nearly 200 Croatian paramilitaries captured during the siege of Vukovar by Yugoslav troops and Serb forces....the tribunal accepting the claim that those killed were members of the Croatian paramilitary and not civilians..."

Source: Organ of the 'Official Truth', BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7017758.stm

tom

pre 16 godina

but he is not saying the expulsion of hundreds of thousand of Serbs from their lands was not planned. this guy is a joke and if dont know this but the region of krajina is Serbian land in history and its on paper that it is just like istra was Slovenian lands, and we will take this to the international court to show the krajina region was and is Serbian lands. we want all people to return and get full autonomy in the region of krajina . its time for all Serbs to speak and enough listening and same goes for vojvodina .

Dragan

pre 16 godina

'Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime.'

More lies and nonsense from this communist turned nationalist Mesic. These were Croat soldiers who were guilty of disgusting attrocities against Serbs (Vukovar was full of Croat military) who simply went to the hospital and pretended to be wounded civilians to try to save themselves.
If Mesic wants to talk about a planned ethnic cleansing of the entire Serb population of Croatia, then he should talk about Operation Storm. This is genocide, REAL genocide, comitted by the Croats once again in the same century, and they again went unpunished thanks to their German friends in the EU.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Mesić says crime in Vukovar "planned"
--
Well, that may be true but lets not forget that many premeditated crimes were committed by all sides, NATO included, during those dark days.

The finger pointers do no good for peace and reconciliation while is seems that only Serbia has maintained its true multi ethnic structure.

PRN

pre 16 godina

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica, Croatian President Stjepan Mesić said yesterday."

Dear Mr. Mesić,

The proper statement would look like this

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica and KOSOVO,..."

Dragan

pre 16 godina

'Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime.'

More lies and nonsense from this communist turned nationalist Mesic. These were Croat soldiers who were guilty of disgusting attrocities against Serbs (Vukovar was full of Croat military) who simply went to the hospital and pretended to be wounded civilians to try to save themselves.
If Mesic wants to talk about a planned ethnic cleansing of the entire Serb population of Croatia, then he should talk about Operation Storm. This is genocide, REAL genocide, comitted by the Croats once again in the same century, and they again went unpunished thanks to their German friends in the EU.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Mesić says crime in Vukovar "planned"
--
Well, that may be true but lets not forget that many premeditated crimes were committed by all sides, NATO included, during those dark days.

The finger pointers do no good for peace and reconciliation while is seems that only Serbia has maintained its true multi ethnic structure.

tom

pre 16 godina

but he is not saying the expulsion of hundreds of thousand of Serbs from their lands was not planned. this guy is a joke and if dont know this but the region of krajina is Serbian land in history and its on paper that it is just like istra was Slovenian lands, and we will take this to the international court to show the krajina region was and is Serbian lands. we want all people to return and get full autonomy in the region of krajina . its time for all Serbs to speak and enough listening and same goes for vojvodina .

Aleks

pre 16 godina

"Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime. "

poor old Mesić is still confused about the differnece between civilians and paramilitaries. From my other post:

"The three were tried over the massacre of nearly 200 Croatian paramilitaries captured during the siege of Vukovar by Yugoslav troops and Serb forces....the tribunal accepting the claim that those killed were members of the Croatian paramilitary and not civilians..."

Source: Organ of the 'Official Truth', BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7017758.stm

PRN

pre 16 godina

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica, Croatian President Stjepan Mesić said yesterday."

Dear Mr. Mesić,

The proper statement would look like this

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica and KOSOVO,..."

limited

pre 16 godina

The HDZ did everything in their power to ignite the war in Vukovar and the surrounding communities. They drew first blood and destroyed peace agreements that would have formented war. I think the Nationalist Mesic was complicit with this.

Mr Rae

pre 16 godina

Wow, what a nonsensical statement. How does Mr Mesic suppose most militaries work? Does he think that the platoon simply goes out of the base in the morning, walks around, looking at things until they pick a target by drawing straws or flipping coins? Or perhaps is it that every single modern and ancient military is commanded and these commands are a direct result of previous planning? Perhaps he could also say that the 1991 revolution of Slovenia and Croatia were planned.
Now the nature of the outcome was certainly not planned, but more likely ignored and considered as collateral damage. Remember its only collateral damage if you win, otherwise its mass murder, but they are both exactly the same thing.
Planned indeed! I always thought that it just happened like that.

todd

pre 16 godina

Vukovar was defended in the most honourable way. The assault by air land and water, from afar, was as cowardly as strapping a belt of explosives onto yourself and walking into a crowded market. Military institutions have used the defence of Vukovar as an example of how to defend a town. No military is teaching its soldiers the strategies used by the JNA and serbian paras. Unless, of course, they are teaching how to fight a loosing battle or the best ways to go AWOL while in battle.

George G

pre 16 godina

I always thought that ALL the premeditation was finalized during the "tennis match" in Slovenia??? Because of that "tennis match", you will as always continue to be "ballboys".For all which choose to live in the past will "remain" there.Blaming Miloseviq for your blindness and every pimple and blister you get like the Kosovo Albanians---is not the way.Like the Man said:Truth is the way.It's the ONLY thing that will set your minds free from your illusions that you have about the Serbs and about yourselves.

PRN

pre 16 godina

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica, Croatian President Stjepan Mesić said yesterday."

Dear Mr. Mesić,

The proper statement would look like this

"The crime in the town of Vukovar in 1991 was premeditated, just like in Srebrenica and KOSOVO,..."

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Mesić says crime in Vukovar "planned"
--
Well, that may be true but lets not forget that many premeditated crimes were committed by all sides, NATO included, during those dark days.

The finger pointers do no good for peace and reconciliation while is seems that only Serbia has maintained its true multi ethnic structure.

todd

pre 16 godina

Vukovar was defended in the most honourable way. The assault by air land and water, from afar, was as cowardly as strapping a belt of explosives onto yourself and walking into a crowded market. Military institutions have used the defence of Vukovar as an example of how to defend a town. No military is teaching its soldiers the strategies used by the JNA and serbian paras. Unless, of course, they are teaching how to fight a loosing battle or the best ways to go AWOL while in battle.

Dragan

pre 16 godina

'Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime.'

More lies and nonsense from this communist turned nationalist Mesic. These were Croat soldiers who were guilty of disgusting attrocities against Serbs (Vukovar was full of Croat military) who simply went to the hospital and pretended to be wounded civilians to try to save themselves.
If Mesic wants to talk about a planned ethnic cleansing of the entire Serb population of Croatia, then he should talk about Operation Storm. This is genocide, REAL genocide, comitted by the Croats once again in the same century, and they again went unpunished thanks to their German friends in the EU.

Aleks

pre 16 godina

"Mesić went on to say: "I simply cannot understand how wounded civilians could have been taken out of the hospital and murdered," adding that one can always do more to fully investigate every crime. "

poor old Mesić is still confused about the differnece between civilians and paramilitaries. From my other post:

"The three were tried over the massacre of nearly 200 Croatian paramilitaries captured during the siege of Vukovar by Yugoslav troops and Serb forces....the tribunal accepting the claim that those killed were members of the Croatian paramilitary and not civilians..."

Source: Organ of the 'Official Truth', BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7017758.stm

George G

pre 16 godina

I always thought that ALL the premeditation was finalized during the "tennis match" in Slovenia??? Because of that "tennis match", you will as always continue to be "ballboys".For all which choose to live in the past will "remain" there.Blaming Miloseviq for your blindness and every pimple and blister you get like the Kosovo Albanians---is not the way.Like the Man said:Truth is the way.It's the ONLY thing that will set your minds free from your illusions that you have about the Serbs and about yourselves.

tom

pre 16 godina

but he is not saying the expulsion of hundreds of thousand of Serbs from their lands was not planned. this guy is a joke and if dont know this but the region of krajina is Serbian land in history and its on paper that it is just like istra was Slovenian lands, and we will take this to the international court to show the krajina region was and is Serbian lands. we want all people to return and get full autonomy in the region of krajina . its time for all Serbs to speak and enough listening and same goes for vojvodina .

Mr Rae

pre 16 godina

Wow, what a nonsensical statement. How does Mr Mesic suppose most militaries work? Does he think that the platoon simply goes out of the base in the morning, walks around, looking at things until they pick a target by drawing straws or flipping coins? Or perhaps is it that every single modern and ancient military is commanded and these commands are a direct result of previous planning? Perhaps he could also say that the 1991 revolution of Slovenia and Croatia were planned.
Now the nature of the outcome was certainly not planned, but more likely ignored and considered as collateral damage. Remember its only collateral damage if you win, otherwise its mass murder, but they are both exactly the same thing.
Planned indeed! I always thought that it just happened like that.

limited

pre 16 godina

The HDZ did everything in their power to ignite the war in Vukovar and the surrounding communities. They drew first blood and destroyed peace agreements that would have formented war. I think the Nationalist Mesic was complicit with this.