How exactly did the Serbs "suffer" when they committed the Srebrenica Genocide? Please don't try to distort the reality of the crimes that were committed by the Serbs.
##Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
(SimplyStated, 31 August 2009 10:18)
Simply stated and well stated too. this is how svetlana broz put it to me, and her words resonate, commie grandpa or not:
These politicians like dodik --- and not ONLY dodik -- know they have 2 choices: stay in power or go str8t to jail. and if and when comes the time that a democratic and responsible govt takes power, such politicians know exactly where they'll end up.
This is 100% clear, esp.ly in bosnia, and not a specific function of their ethnicity or their supposed politics or ideology, supposing they have one.
so such politicians CLING to their power, and do and say anything to keep it-- mostly by stoking fear and paranoia among the people, in fact, as dr. broz pointed out, among their own (so called) people.
there are certain parallels here in the US, altho i dislike sloppy and inexact comparisons. for ex., it becomes increasingly clear (duh) how bush stoked up the paranoia "security" fires just before his re-election, raising the code to orange or purple or god knows what. for many of us it was an obvious and cheap demagogic trick, but believe me, people respond to fear and negativity, just look around...
there are many endemic problems to the bosnian pol. scene, but with the right intl help and the removal of criminal politicians, it is not too late. we need to be resolute.
Lenard, R.S. was also created through the displacement of hundreds of thousands of serbs, and through the murder of some 16000 serbian civilians and about as many serbian troops. You do not understand that R.S. is a creation based on Serbian suffering, not aggression.
Do not worry your self szemi man makes his plans God laughs at them he has the last say. No one escapes Gods righteous judgments he gives every one of us sinners time to repent and for our nations. If they still refuse and do not turn to do the right Godly thing. Then disaster overtakes all of us and our country's.
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 18:39)
Lenard,
Hungary and Germany got what they deserved while Croats managed to get away with their crimes and sins not once in History(similarly to Albanians).So it is albanians and croats who should be last to teach others about pseudo or quasi states or mass murders of civilians.As far as I know Jesenovac was not run by Hungarians end even germans were horrified by the brutal crimes you commited against Serbs.
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
"That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children."
Nope, the majority of the deaths were soldiers. The amount of "collateral damage" - women and children - was actually low compared to most wars. The media and Muslims exaggerated. The deaths were like 90% military aged men - and this is not counting teen soldiers who were legally joining the armies at 16 on all sides. The 16 and 17 year old soldiers and militants would be counted as children, even if they were armed.
Also, it was the Muslims who were caught staging crimes for PR purposes. Some Canadian soldiers witnessed attacks which killed Muslim children and the mortars/bombs came from Muslim controlled positions.
And there were 10s of thousands of Serbs killed in the war by the Muslims and Croats - many were POWs tortured and beaten to death in prisons and camps.
"As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example)..."
While that does sound like a good idea, Bosnia has a long way to go before such a goal is realized, and strongarming tactices from Sarajevo are not going to bring Serbs and even Croats to the table.
Dodik doesn’t want to the Bosnian constitutional changes to happen because he knows he and his cronies would lose their big power base.
As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example), Serbs would be represented by one-third of parliament seats. So what’s the problem?
The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 11:11)
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
“We’ll ask for the Bosnian Court and Prosecution to be abolished,” said Dodik, adding that these were not legal, but political institutions. The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
Mr. Dodik is allowed to have his personal dreams however unrealistic they may be. Let's get serious for a second here, nobody is going to consult him on changes to the constitution because the majority of Bosnia's citizens, the US, EU, Croatia and NATO want to see them implemented and they will be implemented wether he want them to be or not. Ignoring reality is not a prudent choice for a politician. He's obviously staling for time which he knows he's quickly running out of. The gravy train had to come to an end at some point Dodik and that day is nigh. Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
“We’ll ask for the Bosnian Court and Prosecution to be abolished,” said Dodik, adding that these were not legal, but political institutions. The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 11:11)
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
Mr. Dodik is allowed to have his personal dreams however unrealistic they may be. Let's get serious for a second here, nobody is going to consult him on changes to the constitution because the majority of Bosnia's citizens, the US, EU, Croatia and NATO want to see them implemented and they will be implemented wether he want them to be or not. Ignoring reality is not a prudent choice for a politician. He's obviously staling for time which he knows he's quickly running out of. The gravy train had to come to an end at some point Dodik and that day is nigh. Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
"That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children."
Nope, the majority of the deaths were soldiers. The amount of "collateral damage" - women and children - was actually low compared to most wars. The media and Muslims exaggerated. The deaths were like 90% military aged men - and this is not counting teen soldiers who were legally joining the armies at 16 on all sides. The 16 and 17 year old soldiers and militants would be counted as children, even if they were armed.
Also, it was the Muslims who were caught staging crimes for PR purposes. Some Canadian soldiers witnessed attacks which killed Muslim children and the mortars/bombs came from Muslim controlled positions.
And there were 10s of thousands of Serbs killed in the war by the Muslims and Croats - many were POWs tortured and beaten to death in prisons and camps.
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 18:39)
Lenard,
Hungary and Germany got what they deserved while Croats managed to get away with their crimes and sins not once in History(similarly to Albanians).So it is albanians and croats who should be last to teach others about pseudo or quasi states or mass murders of civilians.As far as I know Jesenovac was not run by Hungarians end even germans were horrified by the brutal crimes you commited against Serbs.
Dodik doesn’t want to the Bosnian constitutional changes to happen because he knows he and his cronies would lose their big power base.
As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example), Serbs would be represented by one-third of parliament seats. So what’s the problem?
"As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example)..."
While that does sound like a good idea, Bosnia has a long way to go before such a goal is realized, and strongarming tactices from Sarajevo are not going to bring Serbs and even Croats to the table.
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
Do not worry your self szemi man makes his plans God laughs at them he has the last say. No one escapes Gods righteous judgments he gives every one of us sinners time to repent and for our nations. If they still refuse and do not turn to do the right Godly thing. Then disaster overtakes all of us and our country's.
Lenard, R.S. was also created through the displacement of hundreds of thousands of serbs, and through the murder of some 16000 serbian civilians and about as many serbian troops. You do not understand that R.S. is a creation based on Serbian suffering, not aggression.
How exactly did the Serbs "suffer" when they committed the Srebrenica Genocide? Please don't try to distort the reality of the crimes that were committed by the Serbs.
##Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
(SimplyStated, 31 August 2009 10:18)
Simply stated and well stated too. this is how svetlana broz put it to me, and her words resonate, commie grandpa or not:
These politicians like dodik --- and not ONLY dodik -- know they have 2 choices: stay in power or go str8t to jail. and if and when comes the time that a democratic and responsible govt takes power, such politicians know exactly where they'll end up.
This is 100% clear, esp.ly in bosnia, and not a specific function of their ethnicity or their supposed politics or ideology, supposing they have one.
so such politicians CLING to their power, and do and say anything to keep it-- mostly by stoking fear and paranoia among the people, in fact, as dr. broz pointed out, among their own (so called) people.
there are certain parallels here in the US, altho i dislike sloppy and inexact comparisons. for ex., it becomes increasingly clear (duh) how bush stoked up the paranoia "security" fires just before his re-election, raising the code to orange or purple or god knows what. for many of us it was an obvious and cheap demagogic trick, but believe me, people respond to fear and negativity, just look around...
there are many endemic problems to the bosnian pol. scene, but with the right intl help and the removal of criminal politicians, it is not too late. we need to be resolute.
Mr. Dodik is allowed to have his personal dreams however unrealistic they may be. Let's get serious for a second here, nobody is going to consult him on changes to the constitution because the majority of Bosnia's citizens, the US, EU, Croatia and NATO want to see them implemented and they will be implemented wether he want them to be or not. Ignoring reality is not a prudent choice for a politician. He's obviously staling for time which he knows he's quickly running out of. The gravy train had to come to an end at some point Dodik and that day is nigh. Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
“We’ll ask for the Bosnian Court and Prosecution to be abolished,” said Dodik, adding that these were not legal, but political institutions. The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
The only thing that should be abolished is the quasi Srpska. That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 11:11)
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
Dodik doesn’t want to the Bosnian constitutional changes to happen because he knows he and his cronies would lose their big power base.
As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example), Serbs would be represented by one-third of parliament seats. So what’s the problem?
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
"That was established on 10s of thousand of crimanily murdered unarmed Men ,Woman & Children."
Nope, the majority of the deaths were soldiers. The amount of "collateral damage" - women and children - was actually low compared to most wars. The media and Muslims exaggerated. The deaths were like 90% military aged men - and this is not counting teen soldiers who were legally joining the armies at 16 on all sides. The 16 and 17 year old soldiers and militants would be counted as children, even if they were armed.
Also, it was the Muslims who were caught staging crimes for PR purposes. Some Canadian soldiers witnessed attacks which killed Muslim children and the mortars/bombs came from Muslim controlled positions.
And there were 10s of thousands of Serbs killed in the war by the Muslims and Croats - many were POWs tortured and beaten to death in prisons and camps.
"As long as Bosnia becomes a normal, western liberal democracy (like Slovenia, for example)..."
While that does sound like a good idea, Bosnia has a long way to go before such a goal is realized, and strongarming tactices from Sarajevo are not going to bring Serbs and even Croats to the table.
Based on this logic two thirds of Croatian territories should have been taken away long ago (no later than the end of WW2).
(szemi, 31 August 2009 14:06) I think you mean Hungary your confusing the two Croatia and Hungary. Any ways that happened to Hungary you got your wish.
(Lenard, 31 August 2009 18:39)
Lenard,
Hungary and Germany got what they deserved while Croats managed to get away with their crimes and sins not once in History(similarly to Albanians).So it is albanians and croats who should be last to teach others about pseudo or quasi states or mass murders of civilians.As far as I know Jesenovac was not run by Hungarians end even germans were horrified by the brutal crimes you commited against Serbs.
Do not worry your self szemi man makes his plans God laughs at them he has the last say. No one escapes Gods righteous judgments he gives every one of us sinners time to repent and for our nations. If they still refuse and do not turn to do the right Godly thing. Then disaster overtakes all of us and our country's.
Lenard, R.S. was also created through the displacement of hundreds of thousands of serbs, and through the murder of some 16000 serbian civilians and about as many serbian troops. You do not understand that R.S. is a creation based on Serbian suffering, not aggression.
##Better get your Serbian and Russian passports ready in case any corruption charges come your way and you have to flee the country.
(SimplyStated, 31 August 2009 10:18)
Simply stated and well stated too. this is how svetlana broz put it to me, and her words resonate, commie grandpa or not:
These politicians like dodik --- and not ONLY dodik -- know they have 2 choices: stay in power or go str8t to jail. and if and when comes the time that a democratic and responsible govt takes power, such politicians know exactly where they'll end up.
This is 100% clear, esp.ly in bosnia, and not a specific function of their ethnicity or their supposed politics or ideology, supposing they have one.
so such politicians CLING to their power, and do and say anything to keep it-- mostly by stoking fear and paranoia among the people, in fact, as dr. broz pointed out, among their own (so called) people.
there are certain parallels here in the US, altho i dislike sloppy and inexact comparisons. for ex., it becomes increasingly clear (duh) how bush stoked up the paranoia "security" fires just before his re-election, raising the code to orange or purple or god knows what. for many of us it was an obvious and cheap demagogic trick, but believe me, people respond to fear and negativity, just look around...
there are many endemic problems to the bosnian pol. scene, but with the right intl help and the removal of criminal politicians, it is not too late. we need to be resolute.
How exactly did the Serbs "suffer" when they committed the Srebrenica Genocide? Please don't try to distort the reality of the crimes that were committed by the Serbs.
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