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Friday, 28.11.2008.

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Slovakia to recognize Kosovo passports

Slovakia has decided to recognize the new Kosovo passports, with the country’s officials justifying the move on humanitarian grounds.

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Martin

pre 15 godina

So ZK, what did you call the Serbs of Krajina when they declared independence? Croats, Serbs, or Krajinians? What do you call the Swiss today? You call them French, Italians, or Germans? I think Switzerland doesn’t hang the stake of its statehood on what the others call them.

Kosovars' identity is Albanian. Not sure what part of Kosovars is not Albanian to you, but you are not fooling anyone with this.

It is normal that Kosovo will have a tough time transitioning from a region, to a sovereign state. I believe the most important thing for them, is to NOT be a part of Serbia. And they are very close in achieving that.

In any case, the mere fact that Slovakia is recognizing Kosovo passports, is an act which displays the diminution of Serbian claim over Kosovo even among those who do not agree with it. The journey to full fledged statehood is now well in its way, to a point of no return. I would suggest that rather than dealing with these petty ridiculous notions, you learn how to live with them as your neighbors for a change.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

You should care because normally Slovak visas are much more easier to come by than, say, German ones. You can travel with Slovakian visa to Germany or Austria, provided, it's a "regular" Schengen visa. This is sadly what cannot happen unless you use Serbian passport.

The true humanitarian nature of the action can be demonstrated that the applicant won't even get the visa in the passport - just on a separate paper. If someone is not well-traveled, and does not have any passport this news is irrelevant. People with a little brain usually try to get Polish, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovenian, Estonian, etc. Schengen visa instead of German, Austrian, Dutch, French. You know precisely, why.

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Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

Slovakia did recognize what? But you just said, you don't care. BTW, few months ago some of K-Albanian posters sung high praises to Slovakian families and girls in particular, saying that they had a very warm welcome and it is very easy to blend-in. So you maybe should care. For myself, everyone with some affinity with Hungary is sadly a "special case" in Slovak society. Unfortunately I can not let the inner guard down while visiting Slovakia. This obviously does not affect Serbs or Albanians. That sad fact does not prevent me to travel once in a while.

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This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

All desperados may feel free, this was a great victory for Kosova. It is very-very important for maintaining the peace.

ZK

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)
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Yeah, it sounds a bit like saying you're independent without having UN, EU or world recognition.

When someone is in that situation, I can understand others getting confused. Like, yeah - you exist but who are you? Huh? Serbian, Kosovar, Albanian?

Sounds like some people are having identity problems. Wouldn't you agree?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

"P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)"

actually, it´s rather laughable! ;)

blah-blah-bleh

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
Humanitarian issue is even less of the reason. The day Kosovars depend on Slovakia to open the doors for humanitarian reasons (be that work, asylum or other) it will be the last day of its existence.
Let's celebrate Kosovo's independence and hope for peace and prosperity of the region.
P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.

Luigi

pre 15 godina

i stand with my prognosis..the last 2 countries will be Spain and Cyprus...at the end of 2009 all 27 Eu countries will recognize Kosovo independent...

Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

I see Comical Ali has made it onto this thread as well.

Fear not, Bratislava will not be recognising Pristina's UDD any time soon. Why? it has a large ethnic Hungarian population on its border with Hungary. If Bratislava did that then wit would be akin to committing national suicide as the Magyars would demand more autonomy and devolved greater powers.

The UNMIK passports are due to expire soon so the only documents available to ethnic Albanians are the official and legal Republic of Serbia passports and those of the pseudostate.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Bratislava is coming under sustained diplomatic and political pressure as is Madrid, Bucharest, Athens and Nicosia.

Alb Flag Day

pre 15 godina

>>The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'

Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other

AO KS

pre 15 godina

Uh, huh. Now I see. I think excuses like this do not matter. The one thing that matters is that they will recognize the passports, and while they accept our passports, in a way, they have accepted the new reality on the ground.

Thanx Slovakia, I guess the Serbian propaganda didn't 'drink water' in your country!

Greets from Prishtina!

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/57lx33

The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Don't be fooled by "friendly" words of some politicians. With a family name like, say, "Krasniqi" you have excellent chances to become a true Slovak if you want within few years. But even your grandchildren will be labeled as "Sch**ßausländer" in some other "Kosovo-friendly" European countries.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

now, ...our dear friends are even subject of humanitarian gestures...

doesn´t look like a truly independent STATE, does it? =)

don´t fool yourselves, UNSC-R 1244 is the ONE and ONLY really important document that is needed at all.

everything else, will be fixed, it´s only a question of time..

AO KS

pre 15 godina

Uh, huh. Now I see. I think excuses like this do not matter. The one thing that matters is that they will recognize the passports, and while they accept our passports, in a way, they have accepted the new reality on the ground.

Thanx Slovakia, I guess the Serbian propaganda didn't 'drink water' in your country!

Greets from Prishtina!

blah-blah-bleh

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
Humanitarian issue is even less of the reason. The day Kosovars depend on Slovakia to open the doors for humanitarian reasons (be that work, asylum or other) it will be the last day of its existence.
Let's celebrate Kosovo's independence and hope for peace and prosperity of the region.
P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.

Alb Flag Day

pre 15 godina

>>The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'

Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other

Luigi

pre 15 godina

i stand with my prognosis..the last 2 countries will be Spain and Cyprus...at the end of 2009 all 27 Eu countries will recognize Kosovo independent...

Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

I see Comical Ali has made it onto this thread as well.

Fear not, Bratislava will not be recognising Pristina's UDD any time soon. Why? it has a large ethnic Hungarian population on its border with Hungary. If Bratislava did that then wit would be akin to committing national suicide as the Magyars would demand more autonomy and devolved greater powers.

The UNMIK passports are due to expire soon so the only documents available to ethnic Albanians are the official and legal Republic of Serbia passports and those of the pseudostate.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Bratislava is coming under sustained diplomatic and political pressure as is Madrid, Bucharest, Athens and Nicosia.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/57lx33

The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Don't be fooled by "friendly" words of some politicians. With a family name like, say, "Krasniqi" you have excellent chances to become a true Slovak if you want within few years. But even your grandchildren will be labeled as "Sch**ßausländer" in some other "Kosovo-friendly" European countries.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

now, ...our dear friends are even subject of humanitarian gestures...

doesn´t look like a truly independent STATE, does it? =)

don´t fool yourselves, UNSC-R 1244 is the ONE and ONLY really important document that is needed at all.

everything else, will be fixed, it´s only a question of time..

Jovan

pre 15 godina

"P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)"

actually, it´s rather laughable! ;)

ZK

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)
--
Yeah, it sounds a bit like saying you're independent without having UN, EU or world recognition.

When someone is in that situation, I can understand others getting confused. Like, yeah - you exist but who are you? Huh? Serbian, Kosovar, Albanian?

Sounds like some people are having identity problems. Wouldn't you agree?

Martin

pre 15 godina

So ZK, what did you call the Serbs of Krajina when they declared independence? Croats, Serbs, or Krajinians? What do you call the Swiss today? You call them French, Italians, or Germans? I think Switzerland doesn’t hang the stake of its statehood on what the others call them.

Kosovars' identity is Albanian. Not sure what part of Kosovars is not Albanian to you, but you are not fooling anyone with this.

It is normal that Kosovo will have a tough time transitioning from a region, to a sovereign state. I believe the most important thing for them, is to NOT be a part of Serbia. And they are very close in achieving that.

In any case, the mere fact that Slovakia is recognizing Kosovo passports, is an act which displays the diminution of Serbian claim over Kosovo even among those who do not agree with it. The journey to full fledged statehood is now well in its way, to a point of no return. I would suggest that rather than dealing with these petty ridiculous notions, you learn how to live with them as your neighbors for a change.

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

You should care because normally Slovak visas are much more easier to come by than, say, German ones. You can travel with Slovakian visa to Germany or Austria, provided, it's a "regular" Schengen visa. This is sadly what cannot happen unless you use Serbian passport.

The true humanitarian nature of the action can be demonstrated that the applicant won't even get the visa in the passport - just on a separate paper. If someone is not well-traveled, and does not have any passport this news is irrelevant. People with a little brain usually try to get Polish, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovenian, Estonian, etc. Schengen visa instead of German, Austrian, Dutch, French. You know precisely, why.

------------------

Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

Slovakia did recognize what? But you just said, you don't care. BTW, few months ago some of K-Albanian posters sung high praises to Slovakian families and girls in particular, saying that they had a very warm welcome and it is very easy to blend-in. So you maybe should care. For myself, everyone with some affinity with Hungary is sadly a "special case" in Slovak society. Unfortunately I can not let the inner guard down while visiting Slovakia. This obviously does not affect Serbs or Albanians. That sad fact does not prevent me to travel once in a while.

------------------

This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

All desperados may feel free, this was a great victory for Kosova. It is very-very important for maintaining the peace.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

now, ...our dear friends are even subject of humanitarian gestures...

doesn´t look like a truly independent STATE, does it? =)

don´t fool yourselves, UNSC-R 1244 is the ONE and ONLY really important document that is needed at all.

everything else, will be fixed, it´s only a question of time..

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Here it is:

http://tinyurl.com/57lx33

The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Don't be fooled by "friendly" words of some politicians. With a family name like, say, "Krasniqi" you have excellent chances to become a true Slovak if you want within few years. But even your grandchildren will be labeled as "Sch**ßausländer" in some other "Kosovo-friendly" European countries.

Luigi

pre 15 godina

i stand with my prognosis..the last 2 countries will be Spain and Cyprus...at the end of 2009 all 27 Eu countries will recognize Kosovo independent...

Niall O'Doherty

pre 15 godina

I see Comical Ali has made it onto this thread as well.

Fear not, Bratislava will not be recognising Pristina's UDD any time soon. Why? it has a large ethnic Hungarian population on its border with Hungary. If Bratislava did that then wit would be akin to committing national suicide as the Magyars would demand more autonomy and devolved greater powers.

The UNMIK passports are due to expire soon so the only documents available to ethnic Albanians are the official and legal Republic of Serbia passports and those of the pseudostate.

You can bet your bottom dollar that Bratislava is coming under sustained diplomatic and political pressure as is Madrid, Bucharest, Athens and Nicosia.

AO KS

pre 15 godina

Uh, huh. Now I see. I think excuses like this do not matter. The one thing that matters is that they will recognize the passports, and while they accept our passports, in a way, they have accepted the new reality on the ground.

Thanx Slovakia, I guess the Serbian propaganda didn't 'drink water' in your country!

Greets from Prishtina!

Alb Flag Day

pre 15 godina

>>The main issue is, they won't give 1 year Schengen visa, only Slovak "national" visa. On the practice, much easier to get than German or Austrian.

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'

Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other

blah-blah-bleh

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
Humanitarian issue is even less of the reason. The day Kosovars depend on Slovakia to open the doors for humanitarian reasons (be that work, asylum or other) it will be the last day of its existence.
Let's celebrate Kosovo's independence and hope for peace and prosperity of the region.
P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.

ZK

pre 15 godina

Slovakia's claim that we "don't accept new realities in Kosova but we accept the new passport issued by Republic of Kosova" is as same as one who claims "I don't smoke, I just light it up and don't let it go out".
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)
--
Yeah, it sounds a bit like saying you're independent without having UN, EU or world recognition.

When someone is in that situation, I can understand others getting confused. Like, yeah - you exist but who are you? Huh? Serbian, Kosovar, Albanian?

Sounds like some people are having identity problems. Wouldn't you agree?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

"P.S. For the first time the official UN transcript of webcast titles Skender Hyseni as Foreign Minister of The Republic of Kosovo. Ain't that sweet.
(blah-blah-bleh, 28 November 2008 17:35)"

actually, it´s rather laughable! ;)

Ataman

pre 15 godina

Ataman, we don't care to go to Slovakia anyway :)
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

You should care because normally Slovak visas are much more easier to come by than, say, German ones. You can travel with Slovakian visa to Germany or Austria, provided, it's a "regular" Schengen visa. This is sadly what cannot happen unless you use Serbian passport.

The true humanitarian nature of the action can be demonstrated that the applicant won't even get the visa in the passport - just on a separate paper. If someone is not well-traveled, and does not have any passport this news is irrelevant. People with a little brain usually try to get Polish, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovenian, Estonian, etc. Schengen visa instead of German, Austrian, Dutch, French. You know precisely, why.

------------------

Only Cyprus and Spain are left now to recognize one or the other
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

Slovakia did recognize what? But you just said, you don't care. BTW, few months ago some of K-Albanian posters sung high praises to Slovakian families and girls in particular, saying that they had a very warm welcome and it is very easy to blend-in. So you maybe should care. For myself, everyone with some affinity with Hungary is sadly a "special case" in Slovak society. Unfortunately I can not let the inner guard down while visiting Slovakia. This obviously does not affect Serbs or Albanians. That sad fact does not prevent me to travel once in a while.

------------------

This is good news right after Serbia's 'victory.'
(Alb Flag Day, 28 November 2008 14:54)

All desperados may feel free, this was a great victory for Kosova. It is very-very important for maintaining the peace.

Martin

pre 15 godina

So ZK, what did you call the Serbs of Krajina when they declared independence? Croats, Serbs, or Krajinians? What do you call the Swiss today? You call them French, Italians, or Germans? I think Switzerland doesn’t hang the stake of its statehood on what the others call them.

Kosovars' identity is Albanian. Not sure what part of Kosovars is not Albanian to you, but you are not fooling anyone with this.

It is normal that Kosovo will have a tough time transitioning from a region, to a sovereign state. I believe the most important thing for them, is to NOT be a part of Serbia. And they are very close in achieving that.

In any case, the mere fact that Slovakia is recognizing Kosovo passports, is an act which displays the diminution of Serbian claim over Kosovo even among those who do not agree with it. The journey to full fledged statehood is now well in its way, to a point of no return. I would suggest that rather than dealing with these petty ridiculous notions, you learn how to live with them as your neighbors for a change.