DS blames rivals DSS for Belgrade, Kosovo riots

Dear friends,

Finally a cold head from serbia.
I am an albanian from Albania and I apreciate really your minister says. I would like to pass through Serbia without any problem and drink a coffee with my neighbours in Shkoder or Durres without any bad thought.

Shame on you Bmrusilla, I really don't understand where you want to go.

Calm down, we are forced to live together in our lovely Balkan.

There you have it in black and white - all the violence so far the killing of the UN policeman were not spontaneous bursts of anger, but as everyone said before, carefuly planned attacks by certain elements of the serbian goverments.

Old habits die hard.

RE: bmrusila "What is wrong with Cuba?"

Without wanting to offend any one, I just have to say one thing:

If you ever have lived in Cuba, as I did for four years, then you wouldn't be asking this question...

Trust me I love Cuba and I had a wonderfull time there...But as a foreigner...

To begin with, you would probably not be able to make comments on B92, because you could not afford a computer...and not having it would be the smallest of your problems...

Cuba has done some amazing things in the Health and Education departments, but still when you have to stand in line for everything else, and half of the essential things for a normal life are missing, then you would ask yourself...My family used to give food, clothing and other things to our cuban friends...and all of them were Univeristy graduated people with good jobs...so they were the ones earning "good" money...

I am not saying I agree with Sutanovac, I am just saying that you should not speak of things you do not know much...

Cuba has oppossed everything from the West and because of that, it has become the state of admiration among all the people in the world that do not want to be on "sale"...but it has done it on expense of its own people...

So they started opening to the world, first with the tourism and I am sure they will keep on opening even more now that they do not have the financial support they use to have from the Soviet Union...

The more DS officials come to the public with such statements the more I am disgust. Now I will tell you Mr Sutanovac what DS has done to Serbia. Firstly you sold out all possible and left people on the street unemployed. Perhaps this had to take place but certainly better deals could have been made. Furthermore, the DS actively participated in destroying Serbia’s Army and Serbia’s defence forces. You brought our Army down to the lowest humiliating level.

Well Mr Sutanovac pointing finger at Mr Kostunica and Mr Samrdzic labelling them for organising unrest in Serbia is very malicious attempt of yours. Not everyone can afford temporary exile in Bucharest. You should be shamed of not being in that meeting and show the unity with the rest of Serbia. That was clear sign for what you and your DS stand for. By not taking part in that meeting you sent clear message that you don’t really care for Kosovo and Serbia’s sovereignty. It is nonsense to frame Mr Kostunica as the one of the organiser of the attacks on embassies. No one can really control the crowd, especially the angry one.

In addition, Mr Kostunica is more realistic then you try to present him. He is aware that Serbia has no chances to possibly join the EU any soon. Your DS is the one who mislead people by promising them something impossible. Your EU friends will play you out anyway, even when you fulfil all the tasks that Brussels demand. Mr Kostunica is not an anti-EU man but someone who first and foremost protects Serbia’s interests the best he can and Serbia’s integrity which is much more important than any EU membership.

Mr Sutanovac, aren’t you ashamed of speaking negatively about Cuba publicly. What is wrong with Cuba? Oh, yes, they do not say yes to USA’s interests at any costs. You know what, I prefer to live in Mr Kostunica’s Cuba as an intact country than to live under your democracy in sliced wealthy country and be happy if I find a space under one Plum three.

I truly hope that DS won’t take any leading role in Serbia in any time soon. Each day with their rhetoric and with their behaviour (now pretending not to know anything about action plan) they prove to have no moral, no dignity, and no true aims.

If you want NATO, go and join them yourself. Why don’t you volunteer in Iraq or Afghanistan and demonstrate your true military skills that helped you become defence minister.

Is this what we are supposed to listen for the next month and a half? Offences, offences and only offences thrown from one side to the other?

It doesn't come as a surprise to see why nothing functions in our country. The government and the coalition parties throwing stones to each other just to get some more cheap political votes...

And you Serbia, you can just stand on the side and wait until all the parties are feeding their egos. One day, which is very close, when Serbia really hits rock bottom, then and only then, maybe we will be united on how to save our country...

But somehow, I am not convinced it will ever happen...We do not need any one from aside to make our country suffer even more, we have all of our politicians to do the job!

Anyway i have made a promise to visit with my son free KiM before i die and i am 39.
(Pyrros, 31 March 2008 13:48)

Pyrros,
Kosovo is free now and has been for the last 43 Days.
You are welcomed to visit us any time.

Bmrusila, my wife is a Bosnian Serb, who suffered from the wars back in the 90s.
She claims that Serbs have tried the hardcore approach and nothing good came out of it.

However, personally, i dont think Serbs did bad, given that they had a huge and powerful antiserb alliance against them.

Nevertheless i must admit i wish she was as radical as you. Anyway i have made a promise to visit with my son free KiM before i die and i am 39.

Ana,

I appreciate your concern for our future and pointing out few important facts about Cuba. Yes, I haven’t lived in Cuba and I don’t know how does it look like to live over there but I visited some other Caribbean countries and I got picture to some extend. Yes, it is another thing to be a tourist and totally another thing to live there. However, I still don’t hide my admiration for Cuba. But, that was not the point of my post when referring to Cuba. The main point was to point out Sutanovac’s attitude towards Cuba as an official, as a minister of Serbian government. What ever he thinks privately is not of my concern, but when one public person, one representative of the country speak publicly in negative context about the other country is beyond fine behaviour and gentlemen manners. I really don’t want our politicians to speak negatively out loud about any country.

And yes Ana, I want our country as a whole, not crippled one, even if that means that I have to live in that kind of conditions that imply Cuba. Perhaps that would help the EU vultures to back off from Serbia. To make it clear, believe me I would like the best things for Serbia but sometimes fighting for the best is as equal as fighting with the ghosts. Tell me one thing, what is the price that you are ready to pay for the EU membership? Would you agree on further partition of our country in order to join the EU? Would u agree on recognition of Kosovo by Belgrade as a one of the conditions to join the EU?


Yes Ben,

Shame on me for wanting my country intact, shame on me for feeling love for my country, shame on me for being Serb, shame on me because Albanians usurped my country and worked by decades in her destabilization, shame on me for everything! Shame on me, shame on me.

eulex defense minister speaks... and serbs stop in disbelief. american administrator gerard galluci did not point fingers at belgrade, but this man does. what do you call this? what's the word? or two words maybe? my english fails me. i know there's a phrase that descirbes this kinda behaviour by elected officials.
i'm more deeply ashamed than ever for voting tadic. more determined than ever i'll vote dss in may.

I'm an outsider and an American. To me it seems there is some serious cognitive dissonance in Serbia if anyone actually believes the Tadic line that Serbia can enter the EU without fully recognizing Kosovo as a nation in its current borders. There is no way to give Serbia entry absent that recognition. I have read Kostunica say this repeatedly. And Tadic and his people say the opposite.

I can't believe that Serbian voters would accept the Tadic statement at face value, because Serbs aren't stupid. There has to be a significant number of Serbs, supporters of Tadic's party, who are very willing for Serbia to recognize Kosovo as a nation. If this weren't true, Tadic would already be marginalized as a political figure.

So, which is it? Are DS supporters stupid, delusional or simply overeager to join the EU? From the outside, it looks like the latter.

RE: bmrusila

I do agree with you about Sutanovac. He should have known better than mentioning Cuba in the concept he did. This is not diplomatic and not friendly, especially not towards a country that has always been exceptionally friendly to us...

I do not agree that we should recognise Kosovo in order to join the EU and I don't think anyone in Serbia agrees with it.

I do think that the only differences in Serbia among the people is on how to achieve some important issues considering our country. And by this I do not only mean the Kosovo issue...

It is embarrassing that there are people like Sutanovac in Serbia today.

Ana,

Thanks for respond. I appreciate that you would not agree on recognition of Kosovo by Belgrade in favour for the EU. Perhaps we both want the same things for Serbia but just trust different persons and their approaches in delivering. I believe more in Kostunica’s approach whilst you in Tadic’s approach. However, I really value your opinion.

This is hardly a newsflash. As somebody who saw these events first hand it was obviously co-ordinated from above - particularly the plan to withdraw police from certain places.

It wasn't like the police didn't have a desire to do their jobs, it was that they were deliberately outnumbered. Lets not forget how police controlled demonstrations by beating protestors in the 1990's - they are capable of controlling an angry crowd, given the orders.
All they needed to do was to fire tear gas at us and we ran like hell - but they waited for us to carry out some destruction first.

Of course this is the reason why DS withdrew from the protest and why Tadic appeared in Romania - because he knew in advance what was being planned.

I'm tired of this campaign before its even begun. I wish elections would be held tomorrow to get it over with.

DS would blame their own mothers for Belgrade, riots, if Soros and US-EU-Nato would only pay them more money.
It makes them look like something very cheap, nasty corruptible.

Pyyros,

I do not want any hard core approaches. I certainly do not want any Bosnia repeat. All I want is diplomatic action by all means, even if sometimes that means a bit more aggressive diplomacy. I am not the one who wants free visa regime and the EU at any costs and somehow I think that DS is ready to provide all these at any costs. That is why I do not trust them any longer. Mr Sutanovac’s speech really made me angry. I have nothing against the truth, but if that was the truth why didn’t he come out with this claims one month ago, just after the events took place. Why now? Sure, it is because of election campaign. The best way to stay calm is to ignore all media during campaign. I am aware of it but still….I go for it. Anyway, I am sure many of them will come out with fantastic stories now during the campaign.

As for visiting Kosmet, I hope your wish come true much earlier than you calculated :)))).

Best regards to your wife, a nice Bosnian Serb

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Very embarrassing for Serbia.
Actually I've been always suspecting that situation.
Very interesting would be knowing the opinion of some friends as Kate, Raso and so on.

I also lived in Cuba for many years as well as in Venezuela and even in the united bluff of america. Well, as Fidel said: Cuba is a revolutionary democrasy. Remove the US trade embargo, their aggression on every cuban form of cuban life and you dont have to stand in line or wait for a computer. Cubans don´t live under the IMF yoke, they don´t suffer from poverty by any standards because they have jobs health care and food, millions and millons of unfortunate non-middle-class non-rich americans don´t. Under such circumstances, Ana having to share a computer with another is not a problem and finaly, there are indeed horrific HR-violations and abuses on Cuba you know, on the american occupied parts of guantanamo.

Sutanovac is only saying what is obvious. everyone knows why Kostunica wants power. it's too control MUP.

the trouble is DS is using this approach at the wrong time. Tadic, the president of Serbia (and DS), uses his a statement from his office to attack media in defense of Belgrade's reportedly corrupt late DS mayor, then uses an interview to publicly question Samardzic's partition plan. should it not have been the other way around, mr president?

you cheated DS voters by allowing Kostunica the key posts of power, then happily shared top managerial positions of public enterprises such as JAT between your party and its new coalition partners, despite promising changes to this corrupt old communist system of appointments.

it looks like DS is getting it all wrong in the first part of the election campaigning.

it seems it's time voters switched to the smaller parties in the pro-European bloc

"Maybe we will offer a coalition with the DSS or Milosevic’s socialists or the LDP but Kostunica is the enemy, Cuba, which did not recognize Kosovo, is stupid, and Nato is our friend."

Is anyone not confused by this? Do Serbian voters take Tadic seriously or are they just afraid of the other guys? Does the likes of Canak inspire faith in a united Serbia?

Do the voters really think it would be worse if there was a western President and a strong parliament, or do they think it would be better if Tadic controlled both the presidency and a weak parliament and thereby return Serbia to one party rule that answered to the West alone?

Finally, do any Serbs consider Nato to be their friends or is the DS completely unaware of the feelings of the voter?

Dan you're right its probably the latter.

many Serbs know that what happened with Kosovo was not fair but they are fed up with all of the obstacles to their becoming a respected, prosperous member of the international community.

the rest have little to lose from isolation

I am very close to the world of medicine and the delivery of it. And one thing I do know is this: Cuba probably has the best public health service in this entire world. For Sutanovac to disparage this small, constantly-threatened country is disgraceful.

Koštunica “is in the essence of his being anti-European, a man who would without any problem halt Serbia and turn it into Cuba.”

Becoming like Cuba might be one of the better imaginable prospects for Serbia... Caribbean attitude, rum, excellent cigars, and not to forget - access to the sea... = ; )

Yesterday I wrote here that I did not like any political party in Serbia because they are horribily similar. And today Mr Sutanovac is proving me. First of all, as a Defence Minister, he should know the statistiscs which says that the majority of Serbia does not consider entering the NATO. NATO illegittimly bombed Serbia for 78 days and I don't even think NATO feels it would be normal for Serbia to enter it. Punto e basta as Italians say. In the middle of the article I was totally disgusted by his statement when his tactless, inflated ego offended another country. And I am sitting here in Italy and thinking: what our constitutional judicry is doing now: why they do not raise a trial against him. As far as Europe is concerned, I must say that Mr Sutanovac as well as our handsome Mr President Tadic of Euroepan values have only a western suit and tie on them. The European politicians laugh at their loss of tact and Balkan way of spitting on yesterday's partners and take a good note that with the people like them any future accord is a fatamorgana.

To Tom and fas

I have a question for you guys.If you did find out the "eden garden" in Cuba why you dont move over there? lol

to Ana

I like your comments not because I agree with those , but I see that your logic is moving in right direction.
I think that most of serbs like you admire most of the countries that recognize Kosovo.That is the key. Help Serbia to stay side by side with these countries.You are smart enough to understeand that the future of Serbia is not Cuba, China, North Korea etc.
Good luck girl

I would like to know how Kostunica made the hundreds of people who participated in these events execute such a diabolical conspiracy without letting any of them know that there was a plan. Did he hypnotize them or did he use his mental telepathy to make them do these things? I would like the DS to explain this to me.

If you ever needed proof that the DS takes its cues from Washington here it is. NATO bombs Serbia and steals its territory, and the DS tells you that NATO is Serbia's friend and that any violent reaction to NATO bombing us and stealing from us must be a conspiracy hatched by some evil bunch of Serbs in Belgrade. Has anybody ever seen a bigger bunch of Quislings in their life? The elections can't come soon enough to get this bunch out of office.

The attacks on the foreign embassies were criminal offences with major international repercussions that shamed Serbia.

If Sutanovac has any evidence that these attacks - and any other criminal acts of violence - were planned, organised and directed by any DSS officials (Kostunica, Samardzic or other) then he should present that evidence to a court so they can be duly prosecuted.

Until he does so, we can only assume that he is inventing these accusations to try and score some political points in advance of the elections. Until he does so, he is just shaming Serbia even more!

"Firstly you sold out all possible and left people on the street unemployed. Perhaps this had to take place but certainly better deals could have been made."

No Bmrusila, implementing the IMF/USA/Friedman agenda and selling out our common infrastructure to american/€U companies doesnt nessecarily have to take place. Venezuela Peru Ecuador Nicaragua and later Argentina after years of mass-poverty and mass-unemployment, did not, now they prosper. Everywhere where people resist shock doctrine(read the Naomi Klein Book) and IMFs agenda is more democrasy than the market dictatorship of the banksters.

i have been to Cuba 3 times :
Beautifoul beaches..beautifoul women..and poverty and no freedom ..simply !
@to TomO'Donoghue
Public Health is good for the Carabian standard but for a European one no...

There you have it in black and white - all the violence so far the killing of the UN policeman were not spontaneous bursts of anger, but as everyone said before, carefuly planned attacks by certain elements of the serbian goverments.

Old habits die hard.

Dear friends,

Finally a cold head from serbia.
I am an albanian from Albania and I apreciate really your minister says. I would like to pass through Serbia without any problem and drink a coffee with my neighbours in Shkoder or Durres without any bad thought.

Shame on you Bmrusilla, I really don't understand where you want to go.

Calm down, we are forced to live together in our lovely Balkan.

The more DS officials come to the public with such statements the more I am disgust. Now I will tell you Mr Sutanovac what DS has done to Serbia. Firstly you sold out all possible and left people on the street unemployed. Perhaps this had to take place but certainly better deals could have been made. Furthermore, the DS actively participated in destroying Serbia’s Army and Serbia’s defence forces. You brought our Army down to the lowest humiliating level.

Well Mr Sutanovac pointing finger at Mr Kostunica and Mr Samrdzic labelling them for organising unrest in Serbia is very malicious attempt of yours. Not everyone can afford temporary exile in Bucharest. You should be shamed of not being in that meeting and show the unity with the rest of Serbia. That was clear sign for what you and your DS stand for. By not taking part in that meeting you sent clear message that you don’t really care for Kosovo and Serbia’s sovereignty. It is nonsense to frame Mr Kostunica as the one of the organiser of the attacks on embassies. No one can really control the crowd, especially the angry one.

In addition, Mr Kostunica is more realistic then you try to present him. He is aware that Serbia has no chances to possibly join the EU any soon. Your DS is the one who mislead people by promising them something impossible. Your EU friends will play you out anyway, even when you fulfil all the tasks that Brussels demand. Mr Kostunica is not an anti-EU man but someone who first and foremost protects Serbia’s interests the best he can and Serbia’s integrity which is much more important than any EU membership.

Mr Sutanovac, aren’t you ashamed of speaking negatively about Cuba publicly. What is wrong with Cuba? Oh, yes, they do not say yes to USA’s interests at any costs. You know what, I prefer to live in Mr Kostunica’s Cuba as an intact country than to live under your democracy in sliced wealthy country and be happy if I find a space under one Plum three.

I truly hope that DS won’t take any leading role in Serbia in any time soon. Each day with their rhetoric and with their behaviour (now pretending not to know anything about action plan) they prove to have no moral, no dignity, and no true aims.

If you want NATO, go and join them yourself. Why don’t you volunteer in Iraq or Afghanistan and demonstrate your true military skills that helped you become defence minister.

Anyway i have made a promise to visit with my son free KiM before i die and i am 39.
(Pyrros, 31 March 2008 13:48)

Pyrros,
Kosovo is free now and has been for the last 43 Days.
You are welcomed to visit us any time.

Sutanovac is only saying what is obvious. everyone knows why Kostunica wants power. it's too control MUP.

the trouble is DS is using this approach at the wrong time. Tadic, the president of Serbia (and DS), uses his a statement from his office to attack media in defense of Belgrade's reportedly corrupt late DS mayor, then uses an interview to publicly question Samardzic's partition plan. should it not have been the other way around, mr president?

you cheated DS voters by allowing Kostunica the key posts of power, then happily shared top managerial positions of public enterprises such as JAT between your party and its new coalition partners, despite promising changes to this corrupt old communist system of appointments.

it looks like DS is getting it all wrong in the first part of the election campaigning.

it seems it's time voters switched to the smaller parties in the pro-European bloc

I am very close to the world of medicine and the delivery of it. And one thing I do know is this: Cuba probably has the best public health service in this entire world. For Sutanovac to disparage this small, constantly-threatened country is disgraceful.

RE: bmrusila "What is wrong with Cuba?"

Without wanting to offend any one, I just have to say one thing:

If you ever have lived in Cuba, as I did for four years, then you wouldn't be asking this question...

Trust me I love Cuba and I had a wonderfull time there...But as a foreigner...

To begin with, you would probably not be able to make comments on B92, because you could not afford a computer...and not having it would be the smallest of your problems...

Cuba has done some amazing things in the Health and Education departments, but still when you have to stand in line for everything else, and half of the essential things for a normal life are missing, then you would ask yourself...My family used to give food, clothing and other things to our cuban friends...and all of them were Univeristy graduated people with good jobs...so they were the ones earning "good" money...

I am not saying I agree with Sutanovac, I am just saying that you should not speak of things you do not know much...

Cuba has oppossed everything from the West and because of that, it has become the state of admiration among all the people in the world that do not want to be on "sale"...but it has done it on expense of its own people...

So they started opening to the world, first with the tourism and I am sure they will keep on opening even more now that they do not have the financial support they use to have from the Soviet Union...

Is this what we are supposed to listen for the next month and a half? Offences, offences and only offences thrown from one side to the other?

It doesn't come as a surprise to see why nothing functions in our country. The government and the coalition parties throwing stones to each other just to get some more cheap political votes...

And you Serbia, you can just stand on the side and wait until all the parties are feeding their egos. One day, which is very close, when Serbia really hits rock bottom, then and only then, maybe we will be united on how to save our country...

But somehow, I am not convinced it will ever happen...We do not need any one from aside to make our country suffer even more, we have all of our politicians to do the job!

Ana,

I appreciate your concern for our future and pointing out few important facts about Cuba. Yes, I haven’t lived in Cuba and I don’t know how does it look like to live over there but I visited some other Caribbean countries and I got picture to some extend. Yes, it is another thing to be a tourist and totally another thing to live there. However, I still don’t hide my admiration for Cuba. But, that was not the point of my post when referring to Cuba. The main point was to point out Sutanovac’s attitude towards Cuba as an official, as a minister of Serbian government. What ever he thinks privately is not of my concern, but when one public person, one representative of the country speak publicly in negative context about the other country is beyond fine behaviour and gentlemen manners. I really don’t want our politicians to speak negatively out loud about any country.

And yes Ana, I want our country as a whole, not crippled one, even if that means that I have to live in that kind of conditions that imply Cuba. Perhaps that would help the EU vultures to back off from Serbia. To make it clear, believe me I would like the best things for Serbia but sometimes fighting for the best is as equal as fighting with the ghosts. Tell me one thing, what is the price that you are ready to pay for the EU membership? Would you agree on further partition of our country in order to join the EU? Would u agree on recognition of Kosovo by Belgrade as a one of the conditions to join the EU?


Yes Ben,

Shame on me for wanting my country intact, shame on me for feeling love for my country, shame on me for being Serb, shame on me because Albanians usurped my country and worked by decades in her destabilization, shame on me for everything! Shame on me, shame on me.

DS would blame their own mothers for Belgrade, riots, if Soros and US-EU-Nato would only pay them more money.
It makes them look like something very cheap, nasty corruptible.

Very embarrassing for Serbia.
Actually I've been always suspecting that situation.
Very interesting would be knowing the opinion of some friends as Kate, Raso and so on.

This is hardly a newsflash. As somebody who saw these events first hand it was obviously co-ordinated from above - particularly the plan to withdraw police from certain places.

It wasn't like the police didn't have a desire to do their jobs, it was that they were deliberately outnumbered. Lets not forget how police controlled demonstrations by beating protestors in the 1990's - they are capable of controlling an angry crowd, given the orders.
All they needed to do was to fire tear gas at us and we ran like hell - but they waited for us to carry out some destruction first.

Of course this is the reason why DS withdrew from the protest and why Tadic appeared in Romania - because he knew in advance what was being planned.

I'm tired of this campaign before its even begun. I wish elections would be held tomorrow to get it over with.

Bmrusila, my wife is a Bosnian Serb, who suffered from the wars back in the 90s.
She claims that Serbs have tried the hardcore approach and nothing good came out of it.

However, personally, i dont think Serbs did bad, given that they had a huge and powerful antiserb alliance against them.

Nevertheless i must admit i wish she was as radical as you. Anyway i have made a promise to visit with my son free KiM before i die and i am 39.

"Maybe we will offer a coalition with the DSS or Milosevic’s socialists or the LDP but Kostunica is the enemy, Cuba, which did not recognize Kosovo, is stupid, and Nato is our friend."

Is anyone not confused by this? Do Serbian voters take Tadic seriously or are they just afraid of the other guys? Does the likes of Canak inspire faith in a united Serbia?

Do the voters really think it would be worse if there was a western President and a strong parliament, or do they think it would be better if Tadic controlled both the presidency and a weak parliament and thereby return Serbia to one party rule that answered to the West alone?

Finally, do any Serbs consider Nato to be their friends or is the DS completely unaware of the feelings of the voter?

RE: bmrusila

I do agree with you about Sutanovac. He should have known better than mentioning Cuba in the concept he did. This is not diplomatic and not friendly, especially not towards a country that has always been exceptionally friendly to us...

I do not agree that we should recognise Kosovo in order to join the EU and I don't think anyone in Serbia agrees with it.

I do think that the only differences in Serbia among the people is on how to achieve some important issues considering our country. And by this I do not only mean the Kosovo issue...

eulex defense minister speaks... and serbs stop in disbelief. american administrator gerard galluci did not point fingers at belgrade, but this man does. what do you call this? what's the word? or two words maybe? my english fails me. i know there's a phrase that descirbes this kinda behaviour by elected officials.
i'm more deeply ashamed than ever for voting tadic. more determined than ever i'll vote dss in may.

I'm an outsider and an American. To me it seems there is some serious cognitive dissonance in Serbia if anyone actually believes the Tadic line that Serbia can enter the EU without fully recognizing Kosovo as a nation in its current borders. There is no way to give Serbia entry absent that recognition. I have read Kostunica say this repeatedly. And Tadic and his people say the opposite.

I can't believe that Serbian voters would accept the Tadic statement at face value, because Serbs aren't stupid. There has to be a significant number of Serbs, supporters of Tadic's party, who are very willing for Serbia to recognize Kosovo as a nation. If this weren't true, Tadic would already be marginalized as a political figure.

So, which is it? Are DS supporters stupid, delusional or simply overeager to join the EU? From the outside, it looks like the latter.

"Firstly you sold out all possible and left people on the street unemployed. Perhaps this had to take place but certainly better deals could have been made."

No Bmrusila, implementing the IMF/USA/Friedman agenda and selling out our common infrastructure to american/€U companies doesnt nessecarily have to take place. Venezuela Peru Ecuador Nicaragua and later Argentina after years of mass-poverty and mass-unemployment, did not, now they prosper. Everywhere where people resist shock doctrine(read the Naomi Klein Book) and IMFs agenda is more democrasy than the market dictatorship of the banksters.

Pyyros,

I do not want any hard core approaches. I certainly do not want any Bosnia repeat. All I want is diplomatic action by all means, even if sometimes that means a bit more aggressive diplomacy. I am not the one who wants free visa regime and the EU at any costs and somehow I think that DS is ready to provide all these at any costs. That is why I do not trust them any longer. Mr Sutanovac’s speech really made me angry. I have nothing against the truth, but if that was the truth why didn’t he come out with this claims one month ago, just after the events took place. Why now? Sure, it is because of election campaign. The best way to stay calm is to ignore all media during campaign. I am aware of it but still….I go for it. Anyway, I am sure many of them will come out with fantastic stories now during the campaign.

As for visiting Kosmet, I hope your wish come true much earlier than you calculated :)))).

Best regards to your wife, a nice Bosnian Serb

Dan you're right its probably the latter.

many Serbs know that what happened with Kosovo was not fair but they are fed up with all of the obstacles to their becoming a respected, prosperous member of the international community.

the rest have little to lose from isolation

It is embarrassing that there are people like Sutanovac in Serbia today.

Ana,

Thanks for respond. I appreciate that you would not agree on recognition of Kosovo by Belgrade in favour for the EU. Perhaps we both want the same things for Serbia but just trust different persons and their approaches in delivering. I believe more in Kostunica’s approach whilst you in Tadic’s approach. However, I really value your opinion.

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B92

I also lived in Cuba for many years as well as in Venezuela and even in the united bluff of america. Well, as Fidel said: Cuba is a revolutionary democrasy. Remove the US trade embargo, their aggression on every cuban form of cuban life and you dont have to stand in line or wait for a computer. Cubans don´t live under the IMF yoke, they don´t suffer from poverty by any standards because they have jobs health care and food, millions and millons of unfortunate non-middle-class non-rich americans don´t. Under such circumstances, Ana having to share a computer with another is not a problem and finaly, there are indeed horrific HR-violations and abuses on Cuba you know, on the american occupied parts of guantanamo.

Yesterday I wrote here that I did not like any political party in Serbia because they are horribily similar. And today Mr Sutanovac is proving me. First of all, as a Defence Minister, he should know the statistiscs which says that the majority of Serbia does not consider entering the NATO. NATO illegittimly bombed Serbia for 78 days and I don't even think NATO feels it would be normal for Serbia to enter it. Punto e basta as Italians say. In the middle of the article I was totally disgusted by his statement when his tactless, inflated ego offended another country. And I am sitting here in Italy and thinking: what our constitutional judicry is doing now: why they do not raise a trial against him. As far as Europe is concerned, I must say that Mr Sutanovac as well as our handsome Mr President Tadic of Euroepan values have only a western suit and tie on them. The European politicians laugh at their loss of tact and Balkan way of spitting on yesterday's partners and take a good note that with the people like them any future accord is a fatamorgana.

To Tom and fas

I have a question for you guys.If you did find out the "eden garden" in Cuba why you dont move over there? lol

to Ana

I like your comments not because I agree with those , but I see that your logic is moving in right direction.
I think that most of serbs like you admire most of the countries that recognize Kosovo.That is the key. Help Serbia to stay side by side with these countries.You are smart enough to understeand that the future of Serbia is not Cuba, China, North Korea etc.
Good luck girl

I would like to know how Kostunica made the hundreds of people who participated in these events execute such a diabolical conspiracy without letting any of them know that there was a plan. Did he hypnotize them or did he use his mental telepathy to make them do these things? I would like the DS to explain this to me.

If you ever needed proof that the DS takes its cues from Washington here it is. NATO bombs Serbia and steals its territory, and the DS tells you that NATO is Serbia's friend and that any violent reaction to NATO bombing us and stealing from us must be a conspiracy hatched by some evil bunch of Serbs in Belgrade. Has anybody ever seen a bigger bunch of Quislings in their life? The elections can't come soon enough to get this bunch out of office.

i have been to Cuba 3 times :
Beautifoul beaches..beautifoul women..and poverty and no freedom ..simply !
@to TomO'Donoghue
Public Health is good for the Carabian standard but for a European one no...

The attacks on the foreign embassies were criminal offences with major international repercussions that shamed Serbia.

If Sutanovac has any evidence that these attacks - and any other criminal acts of violence - were planned, organised and directed by any DSS officials (Kostunica, Samardzic or other) then he should present that evidence to a court so they can be duly prosecuted.

Until he does so, we can only assume that he is inventing these accusations to try and score some political points in advance of the elections. Until he does so, he is just shaming Serbia even more!

Koštunica “is in the essence of his being anti-European, a man who would without any problem halt Serbia and turn it into Cuba.”

Becoming like Cuba might be one of the better imaginable prospects for Serbia... Caribbean attitude, rum, excellent cigars, and not to forget - access to the sea... = ; )