I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like.
(JHam, 4. September 2007 04:49)
This is strange, because I recall Kostunica himself admitting he TRULY appeared on that pic, but justifying that hi did that because some people there wanted him to do so.
It is really amazing how serbs try to find an answer to any unfavorable fact criminalizing them. Kostunica with a kalasnikov? Oh, no, it is photoshoped. Mass graves of albanians? Oh no, they were killed by albanians themselves. Serbia attacking the half of Balkan countries? Oh, no, but it was a self defence.
Come on guys, will you never accept you did something wrong?
PS. By the way, given all serbian media, including B92 seem so interested to present any little graffity on the walls stating: "Proud to be albanian", there also many many everyday criminal missdoings of serbs in Kosovo. Only yesterday your guys from Ranilug village attacked throwing stones all the cars of albanians passing by. Many people are in hospital, and I am guessing, wait a moment, how come?
India, probably, won't join SCO.
In these days India is conducting the most important military exercises ever (for India) with the US Navy and other armed forces (Japan and Australia amongst others).
In a future WW4 scenario (the WW3 has already been fought and won by NATO against Warsaw Pact) I could hardly imagine China side by side with Russia.
By the contrary China actually is the main and probably only danger for Russia: Siberia is going to be inhabitated overwhelmingly by Chinese people given that Russia is demographically disappearing and it is more difficult for Moscow to contain the Beijing push in Asia.
tadic is important for one thing only: when important visitors come to the best country in the world, he awaits them at the airport and organizes music, snacks and drinks. that´s all about it.
if tadic can´t handle this agenda vojo will exchange him and all the other parties for america within 5 minutes (like in the coalition talks).
Cvele has the best interest for serbia, He wants serbia to creaye an alliance with rouge states. Way to go, I love it.
I also agree with SPS that he wants to know now what measures will be taken and not to get cought with its pans down comes December 10/11.
I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like. I wish Serbia would just say fine have your independence don't touch our enclaves or churches. Let that be the peace and see how long it last. When all the young and educated break camp for the EU and the so call jobs don't appear then reality will set in. Jobs are hard to come by, why did the people protest when they goverment stop funding a factory and the people protested because they jobs they had was not provide anymore. I guess people in Kosovo will protest when the jobs don't appear as promised. IF the jobs do appear who will get them? Someone's family member or friend who will pay for them. Kosovo has long road a head and everyone wants to put the horse before the wagon.
Since you ask, I’m opposed to Serbia joining NATO. I think Serbia has had enough war and doesn’t need any complicating entanglements or alliances.
Serbia should embrace their destiny as a bridge between East and West with a foot in both worlds.
France trading with Russia through Serbia to take advantage of Serbia’s free trade agreement with Russia is the type of regional position we should foster and support.
The sad thing is that it takes more than nice words and wishful thinking to defend the Serbian minority which remains in Kosovo, which hasn't been ethnically cleansed yet. Sadly this the currency in Kosovo, but it is a problem that was foisted on the Serbian nation by her enemies.
"Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world."
Is that what you want? to see the western world go down?
Make new friends like Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma !?
Well then you got a bright future planed for your kids in years to come. But in other side :
Serbia
Russia
Cuba
Iran
North Korea
Burma
Venezuela and maybe Afganistan
and Pakistan ,does not sound so bad at all !!!
Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world.
Alex, what does Kostunica holding a rifle have to do with anything? Would a photo of Ceku or Thaci holding a gun mean anything in regards to Serbia's NATO issue, as what this article is about? Could you please stop the constant attempts to portray one side as evil, and the other side good. Both sides have historically been bad and evil. Let's work on the issues at hand today, Sept., 3, 2007.
Anyone who joins Nato is expected to send its troops to die in Afghanistan and Iraq. The British has just withdrawn from Basra ..... surely Serbia wouldn't want her soldiers to take their place!
Let the people in Serbia vote whether they want to join NATO or not. I cant understand how some parties in Serbia talk about joining NATO when there maybe isn't any support for it among its own citizens.
Let the people decide please!
If NATO support albanian separatism in their drive for independence, I can hardly see that people in rest of Serbia would like to join an alliance that has just helped "an enemy" to carv out and grab a territory that for the serbs is seen as holy.
nikshala and all the others who would like to see Mr. Kostunica posing with an assault rifle AK-47 surrounded by Serb paramilitary, please click on the link in my post above, as erroneously provided by B92, and then, when the page opens, paste in sequence to the wrong URL the remainder of the link, and that is @N00/10670056/
The question sholdn't be so much what NATO did to Serbia, but rather what NATO is, why Serbia should join and the consequences of it.
NATO is a obsolete cold war creation that should be put down immediatly. Serbia will gain US-favour by joining, but for the sake of security, Serbia is better off without NATO.
NATO membership didn’t bring prosper to anybody. Once you are in there is no way out. Joining NATO is worst decision. Example is Cyprus where both parties Greeks and Turks are NATO members. If Serbia want to sell its future than NATO is right choice.
Great rhetoric from the nationalists. Better for NATO not to have these kind of member states. I still wonder why DSS does not merge with the parties SRS and SPS. I see no difference in their words.
Hope DSS, SRS and SPS will soon go for official coalition and withdraw from approaching EU as well. EU is better off without Serbia. A country and its people electing and supporting Milosevic and his policies of expanding territory, hatred and war that is mainly responsible for all the violence in South East Europe. Better let the Russians take care of them.
In my opinion Serbia should forget about joining EU or NATO, at least with the nowadays government ruling in Belgrade.
After all it should be fair organising a referendum calling all the Serbian citizens to vote yes or not: I think that not would win.
I believe that if Serbia threatened to offer to join SCO, EU might reconsider its position. Remember we are being nice. We have other options and not just NATO. There is no law or rule that says you cant be in SCO and EU at the same time. Although I admit it would be unlikely it would be a great bargaining chip.
Very, very interesting.
I think this is the real test for Serbia. Me personally, I think those are the previous regime leftovers, but how did they manage to stay in power in "democratic" Serbia today???
Well my dear neighbours, it looks like, once again, it is up to you decide where your politicians will take you (not lead you but literally take you).
What this means for Albanians, needs no clarification.
I am really interested to hear from Mathew, Kate, Cvele and the others.
Praying for a positive outcome would not hurt.
oh come on, g17+, ds and how all the parties for america call themselves, will do as vojo tells them.
like in the coalition forming, they told us for 3 months what they will all do, and then they where as little as mice and did what vojo wanted them to do.
Great rhetoric from the nationalists. Better for NATO not to have these kind of member states. I still wonder why DSS does not merge with the parties SRS and SPS. I see no difference in their words.
Hope DSS, SRS and SPS will soon go for official coalition and withdraw from approaching EU as well. EU is better off without Serbia. A country and its people electing and supporting Milosevic and his policies of expanding territory, hatred and war that is mainly responsible for all the violence in South East Europe. Better let the Russians take care of them.
NATO membership didn’t bring prosper to anybody. Once you are in there is no way out. Joining NATO is worst decision. Example is Cyprus where both parties Greeks and Turks are NATO members. If Serbia want to sell its future than NATO is right choice.
I believe that if Serbia threatened to offer to join SCO, EU might reconsider its position. Remember we are being nice. We have other options and not just NATO. There is no law or rule that says you cant be in SCO and EU at the same time. Although I admit it would be unlikely it would be a great bargaining chip.
Very, very interesting.
I think this is the real test for Serbia. Me personally, I think those are the previous regime leftovers, but how did they manage to stay in power in "democratic" Serbia today???
Well my dear neighbours, it looks like, once again, it is up to you decide where your politicians will take you (not lead you but literally take you).
What this means for Albanians, needs no clarification.
I am really interested to hear from Mathew, Kate, Cvele and the others.
Praying for a positive outcome would not hurt.
In my opinion Serbia should forget about joining EU or NATO, at least with the nowadays government ruling in Belgrade.
After all it should be fair organising a referendum calling all the Serbian citizens to vote yes or not: I think that not would win.
Anyone who joins Nato is expected to send its troops to die in Afghanistan and Iraq. The British has just withdrawn from Basra ..... surely Serbia wouldn't want her soldiers to take their place!
I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like.
(JHam, 4. September 2007 04:49)
This is strange, because I recall Kostunica himself admitting he TRULY appeared on that pic, but justifying that hi did that because some people there wanted him to do so.
It is really amazing how serbs try to find an answer to any unfavorable fact criminalizing them. Kostunica with a kalasnikov? Oh, no, it is photoshoped. Mass graves of albanians? Oh no, they were killed by albanians themselves. Serbia attacking the half of Balkan countries? Oh, no, but it was a self defence.
Come on guys, will you never accept you did something wrong?
PS. By the way, given all serbian media, including B92 seem so interested to present any little graffity on the walls stating: "Proud to be albanian", there also many many everyday criminal missdoings of serbs in Kosovo. Only yesterday your guys from Ranilug village attacked throwing stones all the cars of albanians passing by. Many people are in hospital, and I am guessing, wait a moment, how come?
The question sholdn't be so much what NATO did to Serbia, but rather what NATO is, why Serbia should join and the consequences of it.
NATO is a obsolete cold war creation that should be put down immediatly. Serbia will gain US-favour by joining, but for the sake of security, Serbia is better off without NATO.
Let the people in Serbia vote whether they want to join NATO or not. I cant understand how some parties in Serbia talk about joining NATO when there maybe isn't any support for it among its own citizens.
Let the people decide please!
If NATO support albanian separatism in their drive for independence, I can hardly see that people in rest of Serbia would like to join an alliance that has just helped "an enemy" to carv out and grab a territory that for the serbs is seen as holy.
oh come on, g17+, ds and how all the parties for america call themselves, will do as vojo tells them.
like in the coalition forming, they told us for 3 months what they will all do, and then they where as little as mice and did what vojo wanted them to do.
Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world.
nikshala and all the others who would like to see Mr. Kostunica posing with an assault rifle AK-47 surrounded by Serb paramilitary, please click on the link in my post above, as erroneously provided by B92, and then, when the page opens, paste in sequence to the wrong URL the remainder of the link, and that is @N00/10670056/
Alex, what does Kostunica holding a rifle have to do with anything? Would a photo of Ceku or Thaci holding a gun mean anything in regards to Serbia's NATO issue, as what this article is about? Could you please stop the constant attempts to portray one side as evil, and the other side good. Both sides have historically been bad and evil. Let's work on the issues at hand today, Sept., 3, 2007.
The sad thing is that it takes more than nice words and wishful thinking to defend the Serbian minority which remains in Kosovo, which hasn't been ethnically cleansed yet. Sadly this the currency in Kosovo, but it is a problem that was foisted on the Serbian nation by her enemies.
"Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world."
Is that what you want? to see the western world go down?
Make new friends like Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma !?
Well then you got a bright future planed for your kids in years to come. But in other side :
Serbia
Russia
Cuba
Iran
North Korea
Burma
Venezuela and maybe Afganistan
and Pakistan ,does not sound so bad at all !!!
Since you ask, I’m opposed to Serbia joining NATO. I think Serbia has had enough war and doesn’t need any complicating entanglements or alliances.
Serbia should embrace their destiny as a bridge between East and West with a foot in both worlds.
France trading with Russia through Serbia to take advantage of Serbia’s free trade agreement with Russia is the type of regional position we should foster and support.
Cvele has the best interest for serbia, He wants serbia to creaye an alliance with rouge states. Way to go, I love it.
I also agree with SPS that he wants to know now what measures will be taken and not to get cought with its pans down comes December 10/11.
tadic is important for one thing only: when important visitors come to the best country in the world, he awaits them at the airport and organizes music, snacks and drinks. that´s all about it.
if tadic can´t handle this agenda vojo will exchange him and all the other parties for america within 5 minutes (like in the coalition talks).
India, probably, won't join SCO.
In these days India is conducting the most important military exercises ever (for India) with the US Navy and other armed forces (Japan and Australia amongst others).
In a future WW4 scenario (the WW3 has already been fought and won by NATO against Warsaw Pact) I could hardly imagine China side by side with Russia.
By the contrary China actually is the main and probably only danger for Russia: Siberia is going to be inhabitated overwhelmingly by Chinese people given that Russia is demographically disappearing and it is more difficult for Moscow to contain the Beijing push in Asia.
I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like. I wish Serbia would just say fine have your independence don't touch our enclaves or churches. Let that be the peace and see how long it last. When all the young and educated break camp for the EU and the so call jobs don't appear then reality will set in. Jobs are hard to come by, why did the people protest when they goverment stop funding a factory and the people protested because they jobs they had was not provide anymore. I guess people in Kosovo will protest when the jobs don't appear as promised. IF the jobs do appear who will get them? Someone's family member or friend who will pay for them. Kosovo has long road a head and everyone wants to put the horse before the wagon.
Very, very interesting.
I think this is the real test for Serbia. Me personally, I think those are the previous regime leftovers, but how did they manage to stay in power in "democratic" Serbia today???
Well my dear neighbours, it looks like, once again, it is up to you decide where your politicians will take you (not lead you but literally take you).
What this means for Albanians, needs no clarification.
I am really interested to hear from Mathew, Kate, Cvele and the others.
Praying for a positive outcome would not hurt.
Great rhetoric from the nationalists. Better for NATO not to have these kind of member states. I still wonder why DSS does not merge with the parties SRS and SPS. I see no difference in their words.
Hope DSS, SRS and SPS will soon go for official coalition and withdraw from approaching EU as well. EU is better off without Serbia. A country and its people electing and supporting Milosevic and his policies of expanding territory, hatred and war that is mainly responsible for all the violence in South East Europe. Better let the Russians take care of them.
nikshala and all the others who would like to see Mr. Kostunica posing with an assault rifle AK-47 surrounded by Serb paramilitary, please click on the link in my post above, as erroneously provided by B92, and then, when the page opens, paste in sequence to the wrong URL the remainder of the link, and that is @N00/10670056/
Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world.
I believe that if Serbia threatened to offer to join SCO, EU might reconsider its position. Remember we are being nice. We have other options and not just NATO. There is no law or rule that says you cant be in SCO and EU at the same time. Although I admit it would be unlikely it would be a great bargaining chip.
In my opinion Serbia should forget about joining EU or NATO, at least with the nowadays government ruling in Belgrade.
After all it should be fair organising a referendum calling all the Serbian citizens to vote yes or not: I think that not would win.
NATO membership didn’t bring prosper to anybody. Once you are in there is no way out. Joining NATO is worst decision. Example is Cyprus where both parties Greeks and Turks are NATO members. If Serbia want to sell its future than NATO is right choice.
Let the people in Serbia vote whether they want to join NATO or not. I cant understand how some parties in Serbia talk about joining NATO when there maybe isn't any support for it among its own citizens.
Let the people decide please!
If NATO support albanian separatism in their drive for independence, I can hardly see that people in rest of Serbia would like to join an alliance that has just helped "an enemy" to carv out and grab a territory that for the serbs is seen as holy.
I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like. I wish Serbia would just say fine have your independence don't touch our enclaves or churches. Let that be the peace and see how long it last. When all the young and educated break camp for the EU and the so call jobs don't appear then reality will set in. Jobs are hard to come by, why did the people protest when they goverment stop funding a factory and the people protested because they jobs they had was not provide anymore. I guess people in Kosovo will protest when the jobs don't appear as promised. IF the jobs do appear who will get them? Someone's family member or friend who will pay for them. Kosovo has long road a head and everyone wants to put the horse before the wagon.
I have seen that picture before and Guess what it was fixed by Photoshop. I can put myself in the Kremlin with enough and patience. Give me a break. So since you seen the picture you took it then he was there. Anything can be fixed. Just depends on what you want it to look like.
(JHam, 4. September 2007 04:49)
This is strange, because I recall Kostunica himself admitting he TRULY appeared on that pic, but justifying that hi did that because some people there wanted him to do so.
It is really amazing how serbs try to find an answer to any unfavorable fact criminalizing them. Kostunica with a kalasnikov? Oh, no, it is photoshoped. Mass graves of albanians? Oh no, they were killed by albanians themselves. Serbia attacking the half of Balkan countries? Oh, no, but it was a self defence.
Come on guys, will you never accept you did something wrong?
PS. By the way, given all serbian media, including B92 seem so interested to present any little graffity on the walls stating: "Proud to be albanian", there also many many everyday criminal missdoings of serbs in Kosovo. Only yesterday your guys from Ranilug village attacked throwing stones all the cars of albanians passing by. Many people are in hospital, and I am guessing, wait a moment, how come?
oh come on, g17+, ds and how all the parties for america call themselves, will do as vojo tells them.
like in the coalition forming, they told us for 3 months what they will all do, and then they where as little as mice and did what vojo wanted them to do.
The question sholdn't be so much what NATO did to Serbia, but rather what NATO is, why Serbia should join and the consequences of it.
NATO is a obsolete cold war creation that should be put down immediatly. Serbia will gain US-favour by joining, but for the sake of security, Serbia is better off without NATO.
Anyone who joins Nato is expected to send its troops to die in Afghanistan and Iraq. The British has just withdrawn from Basra ..... surely Serbia wouldn't want her soldiers to take their place!
Alex, what does Kostunica holding a rifle have to do with anything? Would a photo of Ceku or Thaci holding a gun mean anything in regards to Serbia's NATO issue, as what this article is about? Could you please stop the constant attempts to portray one side as evil, and the other side good. Both sides have historically been bad and evil. Let's work on the issues at hand today, Sept., 3, 2007.
The sad thing is that it takes more than nice words and wishful thinking to defend the Serbian minority which remains in Kosovo, which hasn't been ethnically cleansed yet. Sadly this the currency in Kosovo, but it is a problem that was foisted on the Serbian nation by her enemies.
"Serbia should join the new-Warsaw Pact,maybe the new name should be the PyongYang Pact. This pact should also include Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma, maybe Venezuela might want to join also. All these countries would be great against the western world."
Is that what you want? to see the western world go down?
Make new friends like Russia, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Burma !?
Well then you got a bright future planed for your kids in years to come. But in other side :
Serbia
Russia
Cuba
Iran
North Korea
Burma
Venezuela and maybe Afganistan
and Pakistan ,does not sound so bad at all !!!
Since you ask, I’m opposed to Serbia joining NATO. I think Serbia has had enough war and doesn’t need any complicating entanglements or alliances.
Serbia should embrace their destiny as a bridge between East and West with a foot in both worlds.
France trading with Russia through Serbia to take advantage of Serbia’s free trade agreement with Russia is the type of regional position we should foster and support.
Cvele has the best interest for serbia, He wants serbia to creaye an alliance with rouge states. Way to go, I love it.
I also agree with SPS that he wants to know now what measures will be taken and not to get cought with its pans down comes December 10/11.
tadic is important for one thing only: when important visitors come to the best country in the world, he awaits them at the airport and organizes music, snacks and drinks. that´s all about it.
if tadic can´t handle this agenda vojo will exchange him and all the other parties for america within 5 minutes (like in the coalition talks).
India, probably, won't join SCO.
In these days India is conducting the most important military exercises ever (for India) with the US Navy and other armed forces (Japan and Australia amongst others).
In a future WW4 scenario (the WW3 has already been fought and won by NATO against Warsaw Pact) I could hardly imagine China side by side with Russia.
By the contrary China actually is the main and probably only danger for Russia: Siberia is going to be inhabitated overwhelmingly by Chinese people given that Russia is demographically disappearing and it is more difficult for Moscow to contain the Beijing push in Asia.
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