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Tuesday, 28.07.2020.

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"Only Serbs did not get the right to self-determination"

Zivadin Jovanovic says he doesn't know whether the USA was really close to the idea of recognizing the Serbian people's right to independence in the mid-1990s.

Izvor: Kosovo online

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British

pre 3 godine

Cats protection league in our home town benefits £500-1000 per year.
1990-2002 many people in rep Serbia and rep. Srpska benefited a great deal. And Banja Luka hospital.
A children's home in rep Serbia benefits each month by my donation of Bed set linen.
Émigrants whenever I am in Subotica and we meet I give £50 for lunch, water.
Ti children I buy sweets, biscuits and fruit juices
And when we part its heart breaking we waive to each other for as long as we can see each other. In October we hope to visit rep Serbia again and make a further donation to children's home in Vojvodina.
And yes in UK locally I am their celebrity.
And when in supermarkets people put their finger out pointing at me.
For the good reasons.
B92. net should plug out atamsns multi accounts and signal the end to "bljuvotine" sick that he writes. Prison or the mental asylum is for him.

Jayvijay Ramamoody

pre 3 godine

I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.
(British, 30 July 2020 14:04)

My family is very sorry that you resigned recently.

As you wrote few months ago, indeed, you and your husband were the best managers in our factory.
Thanks your generosity my family has cars and homes and thanks you defending us on B92.

Hope, cats will benefit from your great personality.

British

pre 3 godine

@ view from UK 🇬🇧
Thanks for your post, its refreshing.
I am, as you know a frequent subject and as I read cannot believe.
Just now on another page I am told to take a pill. And go to live in my shed!
I live in the west country, converted Millhouse River Avon flows middle of my garden.
Listed building too.
My husband retired British Airways Captain, Marlborough college pupil.
Sheds?OMG.
We have built number of apartments and my husband is dealing with that and he is a director of some companies.
Insults, humiliation is high here but only because people hate your style of writing.
My too, I guess.
Shoulder to shoulder, sticking together British, English, the Serbs.
Watch others back is important.
I was sure you smile but wanted you to click into your place ASAP.
No to dwell.
I also had feeling you too live comfy life. I sense.
I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

British......yes, I sure do smile.
I guess some people dont like the truth. They are often like simple sheep who believe every bit of BS they hear on the news. I like to give the other side, the truth.
I debate on other sites and yes I've been called a dirty Arab, a communist, a Jew, a Russian, and so on. Childish people who lose an argument when faced with facts, history, proof, etc, suddenly ignore the issues and resort to cheap insults. I'm sure you have noticed it as well.Its amusing indeed.
One of my heroes was the late Tony Benn (MP). He always told the truth, knew his history and was ofen ridiculed. I guess Albos on this site think he must have been Serbian........lol.....

Peggy

pre 3 godine

The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......
(View from the uk, 28 July 2020 14:24)
==========================
What Germany failed to do by force in WW2 has done now by economic and diplomatic means. EU is Germany's playground and since EU isn't democratic, Germany dictates.
So, it's no surprise that what failed back in WW2 is being realized now.

Why, the rest of Europe doesn't either see this, or doesn't care is beyond me. Maybe those Globalists have gotten smarter and political correctness and collective guilt is a far better weapon than cannon could ever be.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 3 godine

Martti Ahtisaari wrote in his book "Mission in Belgrade": "We must not support the secession of Kosovo Albanians from Serbia, because then Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina will naturally ask to join Serbia."

Now serbs support Mr. Ahtisaari calling him a "pragmatic" but what about his
Comprehensive Proposal for the Kosovo Status Settlement?


In my opinion that serbian canton has a better chance declaring independence as a sovereign state than actually joining Serbia.



Sincerely,

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Njegos and British, thanks for the support. I do try to put forward a good debate with examples, history, etc. But we do have frustrated simpletins on here who just resort to insults when they have no reply and know their argument is lost.
For your information I am male, and semi retired. I dont have to work but choose to do so because I want to. I own my own house and two others which are rented our. All are mortgage free. So yes, I do have time on my hands and I read a lot (from all sources) and follow many world events.
Dont worry, I've been called a filthy Arab, a communist, and many other things.
Very amusing but it frustrates the likes of Eko because they just cant win an argument and know their opinion is BS. Hence the insults....

British

pre 3 godine

Eko,
A large section of people in UK have already made their living or a made of the money.
b92. net isn't exklusivally only to "unemployed"
Obviously you judge by yourself.
What you really, really hate is an expertise of "view from UK"
An essence, the text.
Hé is always "bang on"
I am pretty sure he/ she has a life, very nice one, indeed.

njegos

pre 3 godine

@ Eko: Is that the best you can do to respond to View from the UK? Call him 'a boring idiot?'

Every point he/she made was right on the money and thought provoking. You have a right to disagree with him/her, but why then don't you express some of your own thoughts instead of resorting to name calling? Come on Eko, you can do better than that...give it a try. Otherwise, you're the boring idiot.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Ahhhh Eko appears to be another who insults when he/she dont have an argument.........
Clearly you agree with what I post and clearly you dont like to hear the truth and are most frustrated.
Your lack of grey cells is evident by your uneducated approach to debate. Its childish!! Children throw their toys out of the pram when they get frustrated and end up name calling and throw in insults. Are you Tom O'Simpleton because thats the sort of childish posts he comes up with?? If you aint O'Simpleton then you must be related to him???
Perhaps O'Simpleton may share his crayons and colouring books with you......thats about your level.

Smart Serb

pre 3 godine

Thank you Mr Jovanović
Now you need to have a meeting with Mr Vučić and tell him that ALL of Kosovo* is Serbia not just some parts.
U.N 1244 states that and the western criminals need to respect Serbia's sovereignty and hand it back immediately.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

I see that "multiculturalism" is good for Bosnia. But its not good in fascist Croatia (therefore it was fine to kick hundreds of thousand of ethnic Serbs out for ever). And multiculturalism is not for Serbia so lets rip a chunk of Serbias land and give it Albos. But officialy multiculturalism is good in Kosovo but unofficialy its fine for Albos to kick out all non Albos out (250k-300k have been forced out of Kosovo in the last 20 years or so).
The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

I see that "multiculturalism" is good for Bosnia. But its not good in fascist Croatia (therefore it was fine to kick hundreds of thousand of ethnic Serbs out for ever). And multiculturalism is not for Serbia so lets rip a chunk of Serbias land and give it Albos. But officialy multiculturalism is good in Kosovo but unofficialy its fine for Albos to kick out all non Albos out (250k-300k have been forced out of Kosovo in the last 20 years or so).
The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......

njegos

pre 3 godine

@ Eko: Is that the best you can do to respond to View from the UK? Call him 'a boring idiot?'

Every point he/she made was right on the money and thought provoking. You have a right to disagree with him/her, but why then don't you express some of your own thoughts instead of resorting to name calling? Come on Eko, you can do better than that...give it a try. Otherwise, you're the boring idiot.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Ahhhh Eko appears to be another who insults when he/she dont have an argument.........
Clearly you agree with what I post and clearly you dont like to hear the truth and are most frustrated.
Your lack of grey cells is evident by your uneducated approach to debate. Its childish!! Children throw their toys out of the pram when they get frustrated and end up name calling and throw in insults. Are you Tom O'Simpleton because thats the sort of childish posts he comes up with?? If you aint O'Simpleton then you must be related to him???
Perhaps O'Simpleton may share his crayons and colouring books with you......thats about your level.

British

pre 3 godine

Eko,
A large section of people in UK have already made their living or a made of the money.
b92. net isn't exklusivally only to "unemployed"
Obviously you judge by yourself.
What you really, really hate is an expertise of "view from UK"
An essence, the text.
Hé is always "bang on"
I am pretty sure he/ she has a life, very nice one, indeed.

Smart Serb

pre 3 godine

Thank you Mr Jovanović
Now you need to have a meeting with Mr Vučić and tell him that ALL of Kosovo* is Serbia not just some parts.
U.N 1244 states that and the western criminals need to respect Serbia's sovereignty and hand it back immediately.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Njegos and British, thanks for the support. I do try to put forward a good debate with examples, history, etc. But we do have frustrated simpletins on here who just resort to insults when they have no reply and know their argument is lost.
For your information I am male, and semi retired. I dont have to work but choose to do so because I want to. I own my own house and two others which are rented our. All are mortgage free. So yes, I do have time on my hands and I read a lot (from all sources) and follow many world events.
Dont worry, I've been called a filthy Arab, a communist, and many other things.
Very amusing but it frustrates the likes of Eko because they just cant win an argument and know their opinion is BS. Hence the insults....

British

pre 3 godine

@ view from UK 🇬🇧
Thanks for your post, its refreshing.
I am, as you know a frequent subject and as I read cannot believe.
Just now on another page I am told to take a pill. And go to live in my shed!
I live in the west country, converted Millhouse River Avon flows middle of my garden.
Listed building too.
My husband retired British Airways Captain, Marlborough college pupil.
Sheds?OMG.
We have built number of apartments and my husband is dealing with that and he is a director of some companies.
Insults, humiliation is high here but only because people hate your style of writing.
My too, I guess.
Shoulder to shoulder, sticking together British, English, the Serbs.
Watch others back is important.
I was sure you smile but wanted you to click into your place ASAP.
No to dwell.
I also had feeling you too live comfy life. I sense.
I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

British......yes, I sure do smile.
I guess some people dont like the truth. They are often like simple sheep who believe every bit of BS they hear on the news. I like to give the other side, the truth.
I debate on other sites and yes I've been called a dirty Arab, a communist, a Jew, a Russian, and so on. Childish people who lose an argument when faced with facts, history, proof, etc, suddenly ignore the issues and resort to cheap insults. I'm sure you have noticed it as well.Its amusing indeed.
One of my heroes was the late Tony Benn (MP). He always told the truth, knew his history and was ofen ridiculed. I guess Albos on this site think he must have been Serbian........lol.....

Peggy

pre 3 godine

The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......
(View from the uk, 28 July 2020 14:24)
==========================
What Germany failed to do by force in WW2 has done now by economic and diplomatic means. EU is Germany's playground and since EU isn't democratic, Germany dictates.
So, it's no surprise that what failed back in WW2 is being realized now.

Why, the rest of Europe doesn't either see this, or doesn't care is beyond me. Maybe those Globalists have gotten smarter and political correctness and collective guilt is a far better weapon than cannon could ever be.

British

pre 3 godine

Cats protection league in our home town benefits £500-1000 per year.
1990-2002 many people in rep Serbia and rep. Srpska benefited a great deal. And Banja Luka hospital.
A children's home in rep Serbia benefits each month by my donation of Bed set linen.
Émigrants whenever I am in Subotica and we meet I give £50 for lunch, water.
Ti children I buy sweets, biscuits and fruit juices
And when we part its heart breaking we waive to each other for as long as we can see each other. In October we hope to visit rep Serbia again and make a further donation to children's home in Vojvodina.
And yes in UK locally I am their celebrity.
And when in supermarkets people put their finger out pointing at me.
For the good reasons.
B92. net should plug out atamsns multi accounts and signal the end to "bljuvotine" sick that he writes. Prison or the mental asylum is for him.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 3 godine

Martti Ahtisaari wrote in his book "Mission in Belgrade": "We must not support the secession of Kosovo Albanians from Serbia, because then Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina will naturally ask to join Serbia."

Now serbs support Mr. Ahtisaari calling him a "pragmatic" but what about his
Comprehensive Proposal for the Kosovo Status Settlement?


In my opinion that serbian canton has a better chance declaring independence as a sovereign state than actually joining Serbia.



Sincerely,

Jayvijay Ramamoody

pre 3 godine

I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.
(British, 30 July 2020 14:04)

My family is very sorry that you resigned recently.

As you wrote few months ago, indeed, you and your husband were the best managers in our factory.
Thanks your generosity my family has cars and homes and thanks you defending us on B92.

Hope, cats will benefit from your great personality.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 3 godine

Martti Ahtisaari wrote in his book "Mission in Belgrade": "We must not support the secession of Kosovo Albanians from Serbia, because then Serbs from Bosnia-Herzegovina will naturally ask to join Serbia."

Now serbs support Mr. Ahtisaari calling him a "pragmatic" but what about his
Comprehensive Proposal for the Kosovo Status Settlement?


In my opinion that serbian canton has a better chance declaring independence as a sovereign state than actually joining Serbia.



Sincerely,

Jayvijay Ramamoody

pre 3 godine

I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.
(British, 30 July 2020 14:04)

My family is very sorry that you resigned recently.

As you wrote few months ago, indeed, you and your husband were the best managers in our factory.
Thanks your generosity my family has cars and homes and thanks you defending us on B92.

Hope, cats will benefit from your great personality.

Smart Serb

pre 3 godine

Thank you Mr Jovanović
Now you need to have a meeting with Mr Vučić and tell him that ALL of Kosovo* is Serbia not just some parts.
U.N 1244 states that and the western criminals need to respect Serbia's sovereignty and hand it back immediately.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

I see that "multiculturalism" is good for Bosnia. But its not good in fascist Croatia (therefore it was fine to kick hundreds of thousand of ethnic Serbs out for ever). And multiculturalism is not for Serbia so lets rip a chunk of Serbias land and give it Albos. But officialy multiculturalism is good in Kosovo but unofficialy its fine for Albos to kick out all non Albos out (250k-300k have been forced out of Kosovo in the last 20 years or so).
The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......

Peggy

pre 3 godine

The map of that region now looks close to how Hitler drew it in the early 1940s.......
And its strange how all the peoples who were pro nazi in WW2 are today rewarded (Croats, Bosnian muslims and Albanians). This group seem to have more rights than anti fascists such as Serbs......
Is this just by chance....???
Na, not a chance.......
(View from the uk, 28 July 2020 14:24)
==========================
What Germany failed to do by force in WW2 has done now by economic and diplomatic means. EU is Germany's playground and since EU isn't democratic, Germany dictates.
So, it's no surprise that what failed back in WW2 is being realized now.

Why, the rest of Europe doesn't either see this, or doesn't care is beyond me. Maybe those Globalists have gotten smarter and political correctness and collective guilt is a far better weapon than cannon could ever be.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Ahhhh Eko appears to be another who insults when he/she dont have an argument.........
Clearly you agree with what I post and clearly you dont like to hear the truth and are most frustrated.
Your lack of grey cells is evident by your uneducated approach to debate. Its childish!! Children throw their toys out of the pram when they get frustrated and end up name calling and throw in insults. Are you Tom O'Simpleton because thats the sort of childish posts he comes up with?? If you aint O'Simpleton then you must be related to him???
Perhaps O'Simpleton may share his crayons and colouring books with you......thats about your level.

njegos

pre 3 godine

@ Eko: Is that the best you can do to respond to View from the UK? Call him 'a boring idiot?'

Every point he/she made was right on the money and thought provoking. You have a right to disagree with him/her, but why then don't you express some of your own thoughts instead of resorting to name calling? Come on Eko, you can do better than that...give it a try. Otherwise, you're the boring idiot.

British

pre 3 godine

Eko,
A large section of people in UK have already made their living or a made of the money.
b92. net isn't exklusivally only to "unemployed"
Obviously you judge by yourself.
What you really, really hate is an expertise of "view from UK"
An essence, the text.
Hé is always "bang on"
I am pretty sure he/ she has a life, very nice one, indeed.

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

British......yes, I sure do smile.
I guess some people dont like the truth. They are often like simple sheep who believe every bit of BS they hear on the news. I like to give the other side, the truth.
I debate on other sites and yes I've been called a dirty Arab, a communist, a Jew, a Russian, and so on. Childish people who lose an argument when faced with facts, history, proof, etc, suddenly ignore the issues and resort to cheap insults. I'm sure you have noticed it as well.Its amusing indeed.
One of my heroes was the late Tony Benn (MP). He always told the truth, knew his history and was ofen ridiculed. I guess Albos on this site think he must have been Serbian........lol.....

View from the uk

pre 3 godine

Njegos and British, thanks for the support. I do try to put forward a good debate with examples, history, etc. But we do have frustrated simpletins on here who just resort to insults when they have no reply and know their argument is lost.
For your information I am male, and semi retired. I dont have to work but choose to do so because I want to. I own my own house and two others which are rented our. All are mortgage free. So yes, I do have time on my hands and I read a lot (from all sources) and follow many world events.
Dont worry, I've been called a filthy Arab, a communist, and many other things.
Very amusing but it frustrates the likes of Eko because they just cant win an argument and know their opinion is BS. Hence the insults....

British

pre 3 godine

@ view from UK 🇬🇧
Thanks for your post, its refreshing.
I am, as you know a frequent subject and as I read cannot believe.
Just now on another page I am told to take a pill. And go to live in my shed!
I live in the west country, converted Millhouse River Avon flows middle of my garden.
Listed building too.
My husband retired British Airways Captain, Marlborough college pupil.
Sheds?OMG.
We have built number of apartments and my husband is dealing with that and he is a director of some companies.
Insults, humiliation is high here but only because people hate your style of writing.
My too, I guess.
Shoulder to shoulder, sticking together British, English, the Serbs.
Watch others back is important.
I was sure you smile but wanted you to click into your place ASAP.
No to dwell.
I also had feeling you too live comfy life. I sense.
I am humanitarian doing a charity work for cats protection leaque and I support a children home in rep Serbia.
Doing my best.

British

pre 3 godine

Cats protection league in our home town benefits £500-1000 per year.
1990-2002 many people in rep Serbia and rep. Srpska benefited a great deal. And Banja Luka hospital.
A children's home in rep Serbia benefits each month by my donation of Bed set linen.
Émigrants whenever I am in Subotica and we meet I give £50 for lunch, water.
Ti children I buy sweets, biscuits and fruit juices
And when we part its heart breaking we waive to each other for as long as we can see each other. In October we hope to visit rep Serbia again and make a further donation to children's home in Vojvodina.
And yes in UK locally I am their celebrity.
And when in supermarkets people put their finger out pointing at me.
For the good reasons.
B92. net should plug out atamsns multi accounts and signal the end to "bljuvotine" sick that he writes. Prison or the mental asylum is for him.