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Tuesday, 17.03.2020.

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Message from China: We will stand firmly with Serbia

"Serbia is China's close friends", Chinese Foreign Ministry said after the declaration of a state of emergency in Serbia over the spread of coronavirus

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.
(Zhukov, 23 March 2020 05:22)

Our always delusional Zhukov fails to remember I did allude that it has been correctly observed that he (Zhukov) is having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Our delusional Zhukov doesn't have to remind us of his delusions - we have figured it out long time ago.

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

The two most advanced countries to screen people and combat the virus are 🇹🇼🇰🇷 - both live symbols of market economy successfully marrying social services. At this time 🇹🇼 helping out USA with masks.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3899531

You are right, American government acted very irresponsible, stupid way, waiting for Godot.

But unfortunately, saying that M’Land China is under a Nazi-style leadership is close to the truth.

M’Land Chinese government knew about the virus since a while, most likely since October.
The deceased doctor was probably not the first who discovered the virus - he was the first who started to blow the whistle.

And how you call burning elderly ill in crematorium while they are still alive? SS in KZ did not go that low.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3881683

I do not know why should I sympathize with a leadership of M’Land China which proved to be a first-class fascist or even nazi since day one in 1949?

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

I would follow the news from Taiwan. Not unbiased, but there is simple nothing better at this time. There are hundreds of on-line publications and Taiwanese are not in awe of my "beloved" Dear Leader Pooh-Bear.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Tom,

Knowing their very democratic and human-life-centric tradition, I am afraid, you are optimist.
I think, they will introduce measures more brutal, than "one child" - and their politicians are among the most corrupt.

The result will be a bunch of corrupt and incompetent overlords ruling literally over life and death.

And of course, US of A will be the "root cause" of all problems. But wait, according their propaganda it already is.

Was never thinking three weeks ago I would agree with you, except the word "pray". Praying won't help, Chinese finally getting rid of that "pooh bear" will.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.
(Peggy, 19 March 2020 06:33)

Tonight Taiwan is going to be "closed" and all hopes of course for COMPUTEX 2020 in June are gone. The reason is that suddenly the number of cases "exploded". So no one knows what the heck is going on there.

And as far as their help I have quite mixed feelings about it. As I wrote earlier, almost an entire city got infected here in Europe - and it happened begin of December. The reason was a single businessman who returned from China... in November of 2019.
No one told (because no one knew) the people. My friends (a couple with a young boy) are from that city. I spoke with them tonight - they did not realize what happened until now.

Again: a gazillion of bizarre symptoms, somewhat typical for influenza - but weaker. An other difference is the extreme duration, up to 4 weeks of symptoms. Most are: diarrhea, strong headache, difficulty to breath, pain in muscles, dry persistent cough. And children not infected.

It's like walks like duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck so it is probably not a rooster. Needless to say, people now realized what happened and needless to say, Chinese "help" and "tourists" are very-very "welcome" there, for decades.

Now let's ask Italians how much they welcome now Chinese "help" and tourists. :(
I can say, I am very emotional and outraged.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Welcome back, Peter - I am absolutely with you on that.
Unfortunately not only I got the infection, tonight I learned that many-many people more - and quite early. Including my friends.

I was wrong: we do not hear numbers from Belarus, Ukraine, Russia simply because people do not realize, they are ill.

I still stand by my opinion: the number of infected is much higher than reported and the number of cases people do not even notice is extremely high.

That also means, the percentage of the lethal cases is very small.

Now of course everyone believes, I am ill.
And as I described my condition to a friend of mine he told me, few days ago he realized he was ill, too. Not enough: basically the entire city where he lives was ill.

They recovered - but the tough question is still there: we can overlook the symptoms, the number could be extremely high - but why the mortality is THAT low, at least much lower than in Italy? Their healthcare is said to be one of the worst in Europe and there is nothing there, really nothing. Why they seem to be OK and Italians with their best system not?

I don't know, sorry.

Otherwise, now with an already healed couple and myself slowly improving: the symptoms are extremely mild. The problem is with the persistence of the "bug" and all the surprises. It's like a smorgasbord: you do not know in the morning, what kind of array of "niceties" that virus will bring you in the evening. And that goes on for 3-4 weeks.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

As per now well established pattern, our little sj and his co-sufferer Zhukov are having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Anyway, that's all they can have.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the usual drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

sj

pre 4 godine

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statemen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

Peter Sudyka

pre 4 godine

Considering they started this pandemic and thanks to their bungling mismanagement in stopping it from spreading outside of China, it is their bloody responsibility to help the rest of the world now! And they should pay the rest of the world for all the tax payers' money that went into fighting this plague too.

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Although their response was initially entirely lacking and slow, the Chinese have been able contain the epidemic. The entire country is on soft lock down and non essential individuals are still WFH in economic centers such as Shanghai. The testing and expanded GMP production of drugs are unmatched anywhere in the world. China has already mass produced and stockpiled remdesivir, to be available for distribution once the pivotal results are complete and analyzed in the next 18 days.
Sera from convalescent patients has been processed for expanding passive immunization; the Serbs may be getting preferential access.

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.
(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Interestingly, the quite west-open Ukraine which is now in 2020 the poorest and most anti-Moscow-government country in Europe has extremely small number of COVID-19 cases. So is Belarus, with an eccentric and somewhat bizarre permanently "elected" president.

I do not know the explanation and do not want to celebrate before thing is over, but it seems that there is "something", if not in Russia or Belarus, than in Ukraine.

For now, let's call that "something" just sheer luck, let's see.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!
(Ian Anderson, 18 March 2020 23:20)

Thanks Ian, this was one of the best, you are right.

In addition to that, in all Abrahamian traditions there is a host of rules what kind of animals should be kept next to humans, what can't and even what fish or fish roe is OK to eat and what not.

Than, some kid comes and breaks all your toys - because he is stupid and does not realize, not a singe major epidemic spread from "Abrahamian" country or kingdom ever.

One does not need to be a Nobel Prize winner to realize this. And who does not, going to win the Darwin prize.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statesmen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)
=================
So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Dragoljub,

Speaking about that clip - of course guys were not professional.
But it shows that with even best intentions normal people can't handle bats.

They should call specialists (there are even specialists who can extract raccoons stuck inside the canalization) and let them handle.

According everything I ever heard we should never touch a bat and leave that job to veterinarians or rangers. Eating it is even more bizarre idea.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

God Bless China and the Chinese People !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 17 March 2020 19:25)

For what? That they screwed up our life? Or at least the entire 2020?


That's a very yummy animal, best as either food or pet, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1mNszro7H0

Bon appetite!

And please read the comments in Russian, what people say.

Ian Anderson

pre 4 godine

I do not like the EU and in fact voted for Brexit, but please remember the EU did not create this Virus! In 2002 a new Virus to be called SARS appeared in China and spread around the world killing people. The source of the Virus was a Wet Market where wild animals from around the world were kept and slaughtered in disgusting conditions allowing the virus to jump species . China failed to keep them closed and knew what had happened. Now due to their incompetence they have exported SARS Cov 2 to destroy lives and economies. Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!
(sj, 18 March 2020 11:21)

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.
(June K., 17 March 2020 23:18)
=====================
So if your country (whatever that is) isn't getting help from China neither should Serbia. Jealousy is a curse you know.
China is extending a hand of friendship here and you want Serbia to slap it? Wow, you are so p!ssed off about this. Good.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.
(Dekim, 17 March 2020 15:57
============================
What we will remember when EU asks anything is to ask why they went ahead with madness and participated in bombing us?
We can ask questions too you know.

View from the uk

pre 4 godine

SJ, I applaud your comment.
I too remember Albanian, Croatian and Bosnian muslim trolls about how Russia and China would drop Serbia like a stone.
Well here we are and just look at how the Chinese government and people are helping Serbia.
And of course we have to look at the EU and America.........just how much have they helped anyone???
So much for unity......lol......
Serbia must turn to Russia, China, etc. The west will knife anyone in the back when it suits them......

Docker

pre 4 godine

sj,
What has China done, concretely, for Serbia. Words don’t count! As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.

sj

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!

June K.

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.

drago

pre 4 godine

When chips are down you now whom your friends are and it's not EU the sinking ship.Serbia must turn towards China ,Russia and the rest of the world forget EU.Turn towards the country's that are not stealing your land and giving it to bunch of terrorists.

Dekim

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.

sj

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!

drago

pre 4 godine

When chips are down you now whom your friends are and it's not EU the sinking ship.Serbia must turn towards China ,Russia and the rest of the world forget EU.Turn towards the country's that are not stealing your land and giving it to bunch of terrorists.

Dekim

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.

June K.

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.
(Zhukov, 23 March 2020 05:22)

Our always delusional Zhukov fails to remember I did allude that it has been correctly observed that he (Zhukov) is having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Our delusional Zhukov doesn't have to remind us of his delusions - we have figured it out long time ago.

View from the uk

pre 4 godine

SJ, I applaud your comment.
I too remember Albanian, Croatian and Bosnian muslim trolls about how Russia and China would drop Serbia like a stone.
Well here we are and just look at how the Chinese government and people are helping Serbia.
And of course we have to look at the EU and America.........just how much have they helped anyone???
So much for unity......lol......
Serbia must turn to Russia, China, etc. The west will knife anyone in the back when it suits them......

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.
(June K., 17 March 2020 23:18)
=====================
So if your country (whatever that is) isn't getting help from China neither should Serbia. Jealousy is a curse you know.
China is extending a hand of friendship here and you want Serbia to slap it? Wow, you are so p!ssed off about this. Good.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!
(sj, 18 March 2020 11:21)

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.
(Dekim, 17 March 2020 15:57
============================
What we will remember when EU asks anything is to ask why they went ahead with madness and participated in bombing us?
We can ask questions too you know.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the usual drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.

Docker

pre 4 godine

sj,
What has China done, concretely, for Serbia. Words don’t count! As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.

Ian Anderson

pre 4 godine

I do not like the EU and in fact voted for Brexit, but please remember the EU did not create this Virus! In 2002 a new Virus to be called SARS appeared in China and spread around the world killing people. The source of the Virus was a Wet Market where wild animals from around the world were kept and slaughtered in disgusting conditions allowing the virus to jump species . China failed to keep them closed and knew what had happened. Now due to their incompetence they have exported SARS Cov 2 to destroy lives and economies. Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!

Ataman

pre 4 godine

God Bless China and the Chinese People !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 17 March 2020 19:25)

For what? That they screwed up our life? Or at least the entire 2020?


That's a very yummy animal, best as either food or pet, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1mNszro7H0

Bon appetite!

And please read the comments in Russian, what people say.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Dragoljub,

Speaking about that clip - of course guys were not professional.
But it shows that with even best intentions normal people can't handle bats.

They should call specialists (there are even specialists who can extract raccoons stuck inside the canalization) and let them handle.

According everything I ever heard we should never touch a bat and leave that job to veterinarians or rangers. Eating it is even more bizarre idea.

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Although their response was initially entirely lacking and slow, the Chinese have been able contain the epidemic. The entire country is on soft lock down and non essential individuals are still WFH in economic centers such as Shanghai. The testing and expanded GMP production of drugs are unmatched anywhere in the world. China has already mass produced and stockpiled remdesivir, to be available for distribution once the pivotal results are complete and analyzed in the next 18 days.
Sera from convalescent patients has been processed for expanding passive immunization; the Serbs may be getting preferential access.

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

As per now well established pattern, our little sj and his co-sufferer Zhukov are having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Anyway, that's all they can have.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!
(Ian Anderson, 18 March 2020 23:20)

Thanks Ian, this was one of the best, you are right.

In addition to that, in all Abrahamian traditions there is a host of rules what kind of animals should be kept next to humans, what can't and even what fish or fish roe is OK to eat and what not.

Than, some kid comes and breaks all your toys - because he is stupid and does not realize, not a singe major epidemic spread from "Abrahamian" country or kingdom ever.

One does not need to be a Nobel Prize winner to realize this. And who does not, going to win the Darwin prize.

sj

pre 4 godine

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statemen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statesmen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.
(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Interestingly, the quite west-open Ukraine which is now in 2020 the poorest and most anti-Moscow-government country in Europe has extremely small number of COVID-19 cases. So is Belarus, with an eccentric and somewhat bizarre permanently "elected" president.

I do not know the explanation and do not want to celebrate before thing is over, but it seems that there is "something", if not in Russia or Belarus, than in Ukraine.

For now, let's call that "something" just sheer luck, let's see.

Peter Sudyka

pre 4 godine

Considering they started this pandemic and thanks to their bungling mismanagement in stopping it from spreading outside of China, it is their bloody responsibility to help the rest of the world now! And they should pay the rest of the world for all the tax payers' money that went into fighting this plague too.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.
(Peggy, 19 March 2020 06:33)

Tonight Taiwan is going to be "closed" and all hopes of course for COMPUTEX 2020 in June are gone. The reason is that suddenly the number of cases "exploded". So no one knows what the heck is going on there.

And as far as their help I have quite mixed feelings about it. As I wrote earlier, almost an entire city got infected here in Europe - and it happened begin of December. The reason was a single businessman who returned from China... in November of 2019.
No one told (because no one knew) the people. My friends (a couple with a young boy) are from that city. I spoke with them tonight - they did not realize what happened until now.

Again: a gazillion of bizarre symptoms, somewhat typical for influenza - but weaker. An other difference is the extreme duration, up to 4 weeks of symptoms. Most are: diarrhea, strong headache, difficulty to breath, pain in muscles, dry persistent cough. And children not infected.

It's like walks like duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck so it is probably not a rooster. Needless to say, people now realized what happened and needless to say, Chinese "help" and "tourists" are very-very "welcome" there, for decades.

Now let's ask Italians how much they welcome now Chinese "help" and tourists. :(
I can say, I am very emotional and outraged.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Tom,

Knowing their very democratic and human-life-centric tradition, I am afraid, you are optimist.
I think, they will introduce measures more brutal, than "one child" - and their politicians are among the most corrupt.

The result will be a bunch of corrupt and incompetent overlords ruling literally over life and death.

And of course, US of A will be the "root cause" of all problems. But wait, according their propaganda it already is.

Was never thinking three weeks ago I would agree with you, except the word "pray". Praying won't help, Chinese finally getting rid of that "pooh bear" will.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

The two most advanced countries to screen people and combat the virus are 🇹🇼🇰🇷 - both live symbols of market economy successfully marrying social services. At this time 🇹🇼 helping out USA with masks.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3899531

You are right, American government acted very irresponsible, stupid way, waiting for Godot.

But unfortunately, saying that M’Land China is under a Nazi-style leadership is close to the truth.

M’Land Chinese government knew about the virus since a while, most likely since October.
The deceased doctor was probably not the first who discovered the virus - he was the first who started to blow the whistle.

And how you call burning elderly ill in crematorium while they are still alive? SS in KZ did not go that low.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3881683

I do not know why should I sympathize with a leadership of M’Land China which proved to be a first-class fascist or even nazi since day one in 1949?

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)
=================
So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Welcome back, Peter - I am absolutely with you on that.
Unfortunately not only I got the infection, tonight I learned that many-many people more - and quite early. Including my friends.

I was wrong: we do not hear numbers from Belarus, Ukraine, Russia simply because people do not realize, they are ill.

I still stand by my opinion: the number of infected is much higher than reported and the number of cases people do not even notice is extremely high.

That also means, the percentage of the lethal cases is very small.

Now of course everyone believes, I am ill.
And as I described my condition to a friend of mine he told me, few days ago he realized he was ill, too. Not enough: basically the entire city where he lives was ill.

They recovered - but the tough question is still there: we can overlook the symptoms, the number could be extremely high - but why the mortality is THAT low, at least much lower than in Italy? Their healthcare is said to be one of the worst in Europe and there is nothing there, really nothing. Why they seem to be OK and Italians with their best system not?

I don't know, sorry.

Otherwise, now with an already healed couple and myself slowly improving: the symptoms are extremely mild. The problem is with the persistence of the "bug" and all the surprises. It's like a smorgasbord: you do not know in the morning, what kind of array of "niceties" that virus will bring you in the evening. And that goes on for 3-4 weeks.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

I would follow the news from Taiwan. Not unbiased, but there is simple nothing better at this time. There are hundreds of on-line publications and Taiwanese are not in awe of my "beloved" Dear Leader Pooh-Bear.

June K.

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.

sj

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!

Dekim

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.

drago

pre 4 godine

When chips are down you now whom your friends are and it's not EU the sinking ship.Serbia must turn towards China ,Russia and the rest of the world forget EU.Turn towards the country's that are not stealing your land and giving it to bunch of terrorists.

Docker

pre 4 godine

sj,
What has China done, concretely, for Serbia. Words don’t count! As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.

Ian Anderson

pre 4 godine

I do not like the EU and in fact voted for Brexit, but please remember the EU did not create this Virus! In 2002 a new Virus to be called SARS appeared in China and spread around the world killing people. The source of the Virus was a Wet Market where wild animals from around the world were kept and slaughtered in disgusting conditions allowing the virus to jump species . China failed to keep them closed and knew what had happened. Now due to their incompetence they have exported SARS Cov 2 to destroy lives and economies. Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Zhukov ... having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.
(Tom L'Orizi, 21 March 2020 03:14)

Tomy “rice for brains” chronic delusional state prevent him from realizing the lack of large scale testing in USA CoVID-19. Have a grain for brains also precludes little Tomy troll from recognizing the real Air Serbia transport of essential supplies that include GMP produced remdesivir and passive immunization sera, that the Serbian government have already flown from China.
(Zhukov, 23 March 2020 05:22)

Our always delusional Zhukov fails to remember I did allude that it has been correctly observed that he (Zhukov) is having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Our delusional Zhukov doesn't have to remind us of his delusions - we have figured it out long time ago.

View from the uk

pre 4 godine

SJ, I applaud your comment.
I too remember Albanian, Croatian and Bosnian muslim trolls about how Russia and China would drop Serbia like a stone.
Well here we are and just look at how the Chinese government and people are helping Serbia.
And of course we have to look at the EU and America.........just how much have they helped anyone???
So much for unity......lol......
Serbia must turn to Russia, China, etc. The west will knife anyone in the back when it suits them......

Ataman

pre 4 godine

God Bless China and the Chinese People !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 17 March 2020 19:25)

For what? That they screwed up our life? Or at least the entire 2020?


That's a very yummy animal, best as either food or pet, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1mNszro7H0

Bon appetite!

And please read the comments in Russian, what people say.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)
=================
So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.

Zhukov

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Although their response was initially entirely lacking and slow, the Chinese have been able contain the epidemic. The entire country is on soft lock down and non essential individuals are still WFH in economic centers such as Shanghai. The testing and expanded GMP production of drugs are unmatched anywhere in the world. China has already mass produced and stockpiled remdesivir, to be available for distribution once the pivotal results are complete and analyzed in the next 18 days.
Sera from convalescent patients has been processed for expanding passive immunization; the Serbs may be getting preferential access.

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.

sj

pre 4 godine

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statemen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the usual drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Why in the world would Serbia accept China’s help. Remember, China hide the fact that the virus existed until a doctor revealed the truth. He later died from the virus, but with China’s reputation, it can’t be ruled out that they killed him for speaking the truth. Serbia should distance itself from China.
(June K., 17 March 2020 23:18)
=====================
So if your country (whatever that is) isn't getting help from China neither should Serbia. Jealousy is a curse you know.
China is extending a hand of friendship here and you want Serbia to slap it? Wow, you are so p!ssed off about this. Good.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

Can we please remember this when the EU asks anything from us? Much respect for China, the EU.. I really don't care what happens to it.
(Dekim, 17 March 2020 15:57
============================
What we will remember when EU asks anything is to ask why they went ahead with madness and participated in bombing us?
We can ask questions too you know.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Thanking China is like being grateful for a bucket of water from the arsonist who just set your house on fire with your family inside!
(Ian Anderson, 18 March 2020 23:20)

Thanks Ian, this was one of the best, you are right.

In addition to that, in all Abrahamian traditions there is a host of rules what kind of animals should be kept next to humans, what can't and even what fish or fish roe is OK to eat and what not.

Than, some kid comes and breaks all your toys - because he is stupid and does not realize, not a singe major epidemic spread from "Abrahamian" country or kingdom ever.

One does not need to be a Nobel Prize winner to realize this. And who does not, going to win the Darwin prize.

Peter Sudyka

pre 4 godine

Considering they started this pandemic and thanks to their bungling mismanagement in stopping it from spreading outside of China, it is their bloody responsibility to help the rest of the world now! And they should pay the rest of the world for all the tax payers' money that went into fighting this plague too.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

As per now well established pattern, our little sj and his co-sufferer Zhukov are having yet another episode of wishful thinking spell.

Anyway, that's all they can have.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

Didn't one of our opponents say when the world turns their back on Serbia Russia and China would not come to our aid in times of this crises?
Well enjoy reading this lads. Oh nearly forgot but what has the EU/Us done for their allies in Kosova? SFA that what!
(sj, 18 March 2020 11:21)

Unfortunately, China is not yet out of the woods from Coronavirus and is not in position to help anyone.

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Dragoljub,

Speaking about that clip - of course guys were not professional.
But it shows that with even best intentions normal people can't handle bats.

They should call specialists (there are even specialists who can extract raccoons stuck inside the canalization) and let them handle.

According everything I ever heard we should never touch a bat and leave that job to veterinarians or rangers. Eating it is even more bizarre idea.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Yes, I know Russia is bankrupt, poor etc etc. I know the drill mate. What do you expect Putin to do? Play the Danube Waltz? Good leaders let the experts do their work and shut up instead of becoming air time fillers on TV by saying the same thing over and over again.
The Russians have said to Belgrade to tell them what they need and they will transport it to Serbia. Dacic has already talked to Lavrov and Russia is in the process sending medicine.
What have your allies said about Kosova? Nothing!
Here is news for you. No matter who wins the next US election the US will not be number 1 in the world. This is something even Americans are accepting now.
For those that talk about the conspiracy involving the doctor who revealed the truth about the virus, please remember that in the 1940s and 50s the US, that loving human rights country experimented on their own people with various drugs and chemicals. Billy Clinton when President issued an official apology and met with some of the survivors.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

China is in the process of sending over various equipment, consumables and specialists to assist with combating the virus plus the Chinese are far more advanced in dealing with this epidemic than most western countries.
All Trump keeps on saying is everything is fine; nothing to worry about. I understand they don’t want to cause panic but action talks louder than words. Its only today he has asked that masks and other vital consumables be manufacture in the US. The EU is finished. Useless as an ashtray on a motorcycle.
If you think the Chinese are hiding real numbers of infected, as claimed by the US media, I hate to see the real numbers in the US. They still have only tested 5 people out of 1 million while China and South Korea have 4,000 per million. The US is on par with India.
The new infection rate in Wuhan today is zero so they might know a thing or two about dealing with the disease plus they build several hospitals literally overnight. The west would still be preparing environmental impact statements in case a rare frog is endangered with possible public consultations by December 2020.
It’s amusing to note that right after China announced it would help Serbia, like a jack-in-the -box, out pops the EU making a similar statesmen, but no assistance for the moment.
Personally, and I don’t speak for anyone else, this virus is being used as camouflage for more economic pain down the track.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

As far as Russia is concerned, they can’t even help themselves. The virus is raging there, but Putin has become mute on covid-19.
(Docker, 18 March 2020 15:48)

Interestingly, the quite west-open Ukraine which is now in 2020 the poorest and most anti-Moscow-government country in Europe has extremely small number of COVID-19 cases. So is Belarus, with an eccentric and somewhat bizarre permanently "elected" president.

I do not know the explanation and do not want to celebrate before thing is over, but it seems that there is "something", if not in Russia or Belarus, than in Ukraine.

For now, let's call that "something" just sheer luck, let's see.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Welcome back, Peter - I am absolutely with you on that.
Unfortunately not only I got the infection, tonight I learned that many-many people more - and quite early. Including my friends.

I was wrong: we do not hear numbers from Belarus, Ukraine, Russia simply because people do not realize, they are ill.

I still stand by my opinion: the number of infected is much higher than reported and the number of cases people do not even notice is extremely high.

That also means, the percentage of the lethal cases is very small.

Now of course everyone believes, I am ill.
And as I described my condition to a friend of mine he told me, few days ago he realized he was ill, too. Not enough: basically the entire city where he lives was ill.

They recovered - but the tough question is still there: we can overlook the symptoms, the number could be extremely high - but why the mortality is THAT low, at least much lower than in Italy? Their healthcare is said to be one of the worst in Europe and there is nothing there, really nothing. Why they seem to be OK and Italians with their best system not?

I don't know, sorry.

Otherwise, now with an already healed couple and myself slowly improving: the symptoms are extremely mild. The problem is with the persistence of the "bug" and all the surprises. It's like a smorgasbord: you do not know in the morning, what kind of array of "niceties" that virus will bring you in the evening. And that goes on for 3-4 weeks.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

So now you're in the Chinese government and can say that with authority.
They can help and they will.
(Peggy, 19 March 2020 06:33)

Tonight Taiwan is going to be "closed" and all hopes of course for COMPUTEX 2020 in June are gone. The reason is that suddenly the number of cases "exploded". So no one knows what the heck is going on there.

And as far as their help I have quite mixed feelings about it. As I wrote earlier, almost an entire city got infected here in Europe - and it happened begin of December. The reason was a single businessman who returned from China... in November of 2019.
No one told (because no one knew) the people. My friends (a couple with a young boy) are from that city. I spoke with them tonight - they did not realize what happened until now.

Again: a gazillion of bizarre symptoms, somewhat typical for influenza - but weaker. An other difference is the extreme duration, up to 4 weeks of symptoms. Most are: diarrhea, strong headache, difficulty to breath, pain in muscles, dry persistent cough. And children not infected.

It's like walks like duck, waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck so it is probably not a rooster. Needless to say, people now realized what happened and needless to say, Chinese "help" and "tourists" are very-very "welcome" there, for decades.

Now let's ask Italians how much they welcome now Chinese "help" and tourists. :(
I can say, I am very emotional and outraged.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

If this happens - I and hope it will not - the whole world's ventilators and medical masks won't be enough to help them.

Pray this never happens.
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

Tom,

Knowing their very democratic and human-life-centric tradition, I am afraid, you are optimist.
I think, they will introduce measures more brutal, than "one child" - and their politicians are among the most corrupt.

The result will be a bunch of corrupt and incompetent overlords ruling literally over life and death.

And of course, US of A will be the "root cause" of all problems. But wait, according their propaganda it already is.

Was never thinking three weeks ago I would agree with you, except the word "pray". Praying won't help, Chinese finally getting rid of that "pooh bear" will.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Meanwhile Tomy “rice for brains” and his NATO-Nazi led Americans haven’t even figured out how to run large scale testing for the virus.
(Zhukov, 19 March 2020 12:31)

The two most advanced countries to screen people and combat the virus are 🇹🇼🇰🇷 - both live symbols of market economy successfully marrying social services. At this time 🇹🇼 helping out USA with masks.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3899531

You are right, American government acted very irresponsible, stupid way, waiting for Godot.

But unfortunately, saying that M’Land China is under a Nazi-style leadership is close to the truth.

M’Land Chinese government knew about the virus since a while, most likely since October.
The deceased doctor was probably not the first who discovered the virus - he was the first who started to blow the whistle.

And how you call burning elderly ill in crematorium while they are still alive? SS in KZ did not go that low.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3881683

I do not know why should I sympathize with a leadership of M’Land China which proved to be a first-class fascist or even nazi since day one in 1949?

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Only Wuhan is in full deadlock so far and, sadly, judging by how Covid19 is spreading in Europe - it is the matter of time for this nasty virus to spread throughout China in free fall and wreak havoc. If this happens -
(Tom L'Orizi, 18 March 2020 22:58)

I would follow the news from Taiwan. Not unbiased, but there is simple nothing better at this time. There are hundreds of on-line publications and Taiwanese are not in awe of my "beloved" Dear Leader Pooh-Bear.