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Wednesday, 22.05.2019.

10:21

Thaci again pokes Belgrade in the eye

Announcing the concept of a meeting with the Serbian delegation in Paris on July 1, Kosovo President Hashim Thaci has once again "poked Belgrade in the eye."

Izvor: Vecernje novosti

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sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 27 May 2019 15:45)

Now fictive Italian Albo had you received a proper tertiary education you would know that the vast amount of information used to teach at universities is contained in their libraries and about 95% of that stuff is not on the internet. Now if you went to university it would have stopped you from drawing your knowledge base from the rear end of a mule.
Perhaps you did go to Pristina University which is the equivalent to 6 grade schooling.

sj

pre 4 godine

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.
(BE, 28 May 2019 08:47)

An Albo calling Serbs primitive LOL. One thing Serbs dont have is blood feuds like your Albos. Living in the west does not make you a westerner its only an Albo living there.

BE

pre 4 godine

My next stop is Pristina, I need to have my donkey groomed real bad.
(Willy Shine,

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.

sj

pre 4 godine

1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history.

Yep it answers all. From personal family history. I suppose your family also spoke and wrote in Illyrian LOL.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs......you believe anything you wish, but you keep denying facts.
I would suggest you stop taking those drugs (I know its hard because Kosovo and Albania is awash with them).
I also note that you only see what you want to see, and anything you dont like you ignore as if its not real.
Stop with the lies and propaganda.

BE

pre 4 godine

Albanians are origins of Dardanians, who where there before byzantine-time. The serbs came there in 7-century.

We can spend all day talking what was what. The most important thing is the future. Two countries living in peace side by side :)

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

... Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. ...
(VIEW FROM UK, 27 May 2019 14:29)

You keep mentioning the Ottoman census of 1455 but you never gave the source of your information - beside me asking you this question numerous times and B92 never publishing it. I know why, it's to create a fake feeling as if Albanians are avoiding to address this issue. To be frank, I doubt this comment will be published too. Anyway, in case of a fluke accident and this comment gets published, here is my observation:

After having browsed the internet, noticeably, the only article that supports your assertion comes from Wikipedia whose author is somebody calling himself/herself TheNavigatrr https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Kosovo, and he/she doesn't give the sources of his/hrr information either - just like you. So, chanced are it is you, because the pattern of getting the information from the mule's butt, like you again, cannot be a coincidence.

Feel free though to bring more Serbian history from mule's butt, all the way from the UK.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE you go back in points of history to justify your cause. Anyone can point to history to justify anything. For example, the Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. You see, thats a point in history that points to the fact that Kosovo was Serbian and Albanians came later.
As for Albanians being 2nd class citizens in Yugoslavia that is debatable. I know Albanians have been calling for independence for 50/60 years, right? If Serbs were the dominant force in Yugoslavia then why is it that Slovenia and Croatia had a higher standard of living?
And you ignore the European invasion of the Americas or Australia. Convenient....
Many Albanians claim Serbia attacked Kosovo in the late 90s. No, that was because of the formation of the KLA well before 98/99.
You can not just start a conflict and play the victim. Half the world does not recognise Kosovo and its a stale mate. Your protectors (USA) are in it for their own interests and that support will disappear in time. This will end in war again and I think Albanians will lose everything in Kosovo.

BE

pre 4 godine

VIEW FROM UK

There a two facts here.
1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history. My ancestors who lived in a village called Pllana, which today is in south serbia, was driven away from their home back in 1877-78.
2. Old turkish map from the ottoman empire, shows where different groups lived in balkans. In the map you clearly see the albanian territories. I am not trying to use just some facts I can find, just to make a point. I am using real facts.

And for the other point about the 92% of albanians living in Kosovo. If we take away the history and just focus on today, you will see that 92% of the Kosovo people are albanians. We were treated as 2nd class citieziens back in Yugo-time, and today we have decided to be an independent country.
Also, you cant compare West Yorkshire who has muslim population, who now deserves to have their own country. You know as well as me, that the albanians always have been there. We didnt come from arabia or turkey, as many serbians claim, just to drag us down.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE, you still dont answer anything.
In an earlier post you say historicaly half of Serbia is Albanian...!? Well, historicaly all of Americas is native American.... right??
Tell us what your claim is for stealing Kosovo.....is it based on history, or is it that Albos are now the majority? And remember that you must apply the same rules to everyone.
If its hitorical then for sure you must campaign for whites to leave the Americas, Australia, etc. Right? If its because of current populations then that leaves the door open for chaos around the world. For example in West Yorkshire we now have a huge muslim population (soon to be a majority). Will they be entitled to independence in 10/20 years? New Mexico has a 47% hispanic population. Soon they will be a majority. Will they have a right to independence? There are many other examples, but you get the point.
Seems to me that you use any "fact" you can think of to justify theft. But you use these principles where its beneficial to the Albanian cause. And that is stealing land.

BE

pre 4 godine

I am very happy you asked, so I can make it clear for you. This is a deep topic which takes time to study and understand.
Yes all languages have words they have borrowed from other languages. Because we use words like "Autobus" or "Internet", doesn't mean albanians have german or english root.
We also have turkish words we have borrowed, but that doesn't mean that we are turks.

We have to look at the core of the language (family tree). You speak serbian, which belongs to the slavic language, and we speak albanian, which if you look at the family tree is an isolated language, which means it doesn't connect with other languages.

The core of the language are simple words used like "I am hungry" "I will take a walk".. These are words that are very old, since they have been used from our ancestors.

Then we have words for "things" that we use, which can be "Shovel", "Hammer", "Shoes", which often can be words we borrowed from others. In the old days, when people exchange things, they often didn't know what to called the things. If the person who made it was turkish, the word was turkish.

In Albania and Kosovo they have found many writings, which are very similar to albanian language. Here are some comparison.

English = Curse
Albanian = Nëm
Illyrian = Nem

English = Sea
Albanian = Deti
Illyrian = Theti

English = Rabbit
Albanian = Lepur
Illyrian = Leporis

My comment is to long now. Hope this cleared out things.

BE

pre 4 godine

sj,

You are a very angry person. Often liars get upset when you accuse them of lying. No manners ;)

You are also a very prejudice person. Because I come from a certian group/nationality, then I must be working with toilets. This tells much of you as a person :)

BE

pre 4 godine

Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....
(VIEW FROM UK)

Well I can ask you the same thing? You (Serbs) are tiring us with, Oh Kosovo is ours, because of the 1389 battle, and therefor it is our land for EVEEEER! In this case lets go back 1 million years and see whos land it was.

Kosovo today, in 2019, is 92% albanian. We don't want to be a part of serbia - and therefor we are a country. End of story.

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words."

So what does this mean BE? The Serbian language has many Turkish words and we don't claim to be Turks. The English language has many Greek and Latin words, yet American and English people don't claim to be Latin and Greek. Your logic is flawed, or better stated, nonexistent.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - You still haven't answered my question about if Albanians are Illyrians, why are they called Albanians? When and why did the name change take place? Surely an unemployed doorman from the Bronx like yourself has time to research these questions. Or perhaps the real answer is there is no connection between the ancient Illyrians and Albanians. Still waiting for you reply Azir...and waiting...and waiting...

BLACK EAGLE

pre 4 godine

Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL
(njegos, 23 May 2019 17:33) #

It's the same way like the Greeks call their country Elada Elines and Albanians use the same names like Illyria, Arberia, Albania, Shqiperia in different time periods of our history.

sj

pre 4 godine

And sj. They're two sides of the same coin.
(Same coin, 24 May 2019 14:24)

Not really I am a lot smarter than your albos or the goat herder Azir.

BE

pre 4 godine

(sj, 24 May 2019 12:50)

There a many illyrians writings across Albania and Kosovo, which actually have been profen to be pretty close to albanian language.

I recommend you visit other countries, so you can open your mind a bit and get new knowledge. Sitting around in Serbia and doing nothing wont develop your brain very much.

sj

pre 4 godine

(BE, 24 May 2019 13:13)

How stupid are you?????? The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????The endless supply of idiots continues.

I have been to 94 countries on this planet while you clean toilets in malls and I don’t live in Serbia.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Yugoslav academics only peddled Tito’s Communist ideals and its no wonder you quote these people. These are the same people who wrote about Tito and how the world would have ceased to exist without his benevolence so I’d give them a wide berth.
Is there at least one Albo that has attended a real university?
There is no proof Albanians where in the Balkans before the Serbs – not a shred and making idiotic claims does not improve the evidence of proof. A theory is speculation, but once evidence is produced then it becomes fact and no evidence has EVER been produced to substantiate your claims.

sj

pre 4 godine

Cheers
(BE, 24 May 2019 11:50)

Little wonder the western masters wipe their feet on your Albos LOL.
The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????
Where do these morons come from? Its an endless supply of idiots.

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

Why you all are paying attention to this "Azir" type?

He admitted long time ago that he's not even an Alb.
He never 've been in the Balkans, doesn't even speak or understand the language.

He's just a sad little Oghuz Turkmen or Chechen Ingush obsessed with Albania.
For sure he's from one of the former Soviet republics and fled to the USA once the opportunity arose.

Just ignore him

BE

pre 4 godine

Goran*

Wow haha, you read an article from an greek historian, who is known to write fake articles about albanians.
And also the illyrian language is not close to serbian language. Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words.

Serbian language is slavic language and you came to the balkans in the 7th-century (migration of Slavs).

Cheers

sj

pre 4 godine

Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.
(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Is there an Albanian who has actually attended a real university and I dont mean one of those many fakes in the US where anything goes?

"Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians"

Jugoslav academics had to kiss Titos arse to get promoted so they would write anything. If your not up to speed there are no Yugoslav academics left.

You have no idea the difference between theory and proof. Eric Von Danykin had a theory that the pyramids were built by little green men but when he shows actual proof then it is no longer a theory but FACT.

View from Užice

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right? (View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs. (Chi, 23 May 2019 17:15)

You guys keep changing your definition of an ethnicity to suit your argument. By the very fact of living within the borders of a specific country and being normal citizens, they qualify as Serbs... right. After all, that's how all Serbs became Serbs in the first place. They lived under Serbian rulers as normal citizens.

Goran

pre 4 godine

Albanians are not Illyrians Serbs on the other hand were.. And this is even documented by historians. Here is just 1 example from Laonikos Chalkokondyles a Greek historian from 14th century... https://vesna.atlantidaforum.com/?p=568 it says here on the link and i quote: Serbs
Chalkokondyles wrote that the Serbs are “the greatest and oldest people on Earth“, noting that they are the autochtonous population of the Balkans and identified them with groups such as Illyrians. His work is the basis of the revisionist autochtonist Serbian historical school.
,,Τριβαλλοι, Σερβλοι, ο δε ευνοζ παλαιοτατον και μεγιοτον των ευνων…
“Tryballos, Serblos, autem gentem esse totius orbis antiquissimam et maximam, compertum habeo…” So Illyrians were Serbs.. Its not our fault Albanians cant except the fact that it was Serbs who were actually Illyrians and not Albanians aka Shqipetars, thats what name they go under in their language.

Concerned Albanian

pre 4 godine

At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link.

(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44)

Slavic migration came to the Balkans in the 6th century; some even earlier. Not as a nation but as refugees in what was once the Roman Empire. After many hundreds of years these Slavs formed the Kingdom of Serbia. A nation within the Roman Empire before it's fall. History repeats itself. Kosovar Albanians formed a nation within an Empire before its fall. Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.

Azir

pre 4 godine

Delusional Serb view from UK:

Insults doesn’t change the fact that Slavs were foreigners to indigenous Shqiptares...

Proof is in all the Universities tracking DNA lineage...

Somewhere you could never grasp mentally.

All of our indigenous homelands will be liberated and your failed Apartheid system results in Slav Serb settlers implants returning home to Belgrade losers celebrating like winners 😂

Be happy you’ll still tolerated in Europe.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.
(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44) # Comment link
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Since south slav identity is divided into the following religions :

Catholic croat
Orthodox serb
Muslim bosniak

What would be the identity of a south Slav converted Buddhism be??????

LOL just LOL barbarians telling us about religion AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Chi

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?
(View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - If Albanians are Illyrians why do you call yourselves Albanians? When did the name change from Illyrian to Albanian take place and why? Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Azir.....oh no, please dont go on about the stone age...!!
Apart from the fact that there is NO proof that you Albos were Illyrians, you cant go back to the dark ages and beyond... If thats your excuse for stealing land, please, please talk about the American continent, Australia and New Zealand.... But you wont say a single word about that, will you?
Others have said it on this site, and I now agree........... you really are an idiot...!!!

Chi

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......
(VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.

View from Uzice

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies....... (VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?

Kent

pre 4 godine

@Lenard

Everyone knows the population in the balkans is mixed due to the Roman/Greek/and Ottoman incursions.
This doesnt mean that one does not know their common ancestor.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......

sj

pre 4 godine

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians
(Azir, 23 May 2019 11:25)

How goats going Azir?

Tito reloaded

pre 4 godine

@Lenard: beside that all humans are mixed.
Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs are all yugoslavs. Divided by religion (also having the same god). United by language, culture, food, music, love for sport, marriages,....

Azir

pre 4 godine

Liljana please turn your clock back to the 6/7 Century when the Balkans was yet to be contaminated by Slavs such as yourself.

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

To:BE. Do furnish me with info how far would you like me to turn the clock back?
Enough of you k albos idiots and lies.
By old maps Serbia stretches right down to the sea
Go back to your beloved Turkey, or Albania.
Stop polluting b92 with lies, insults.

sj

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

LOL! Only in your Albo dreams. How is the investment in Kosovo strategy going? Anyone move there yet?

S.R

pre 4 godine

I LOVE IT!

Keep making absurd territorial claims against Serbia everywhere you go Thaci! The international community is slowly realizing what a cluster^#*% the Kosovo* situation has become because of the KLA terrorists.

richard the lionheart

pre 4 godine

Peter the Rocky Thug you are obsessed with telling Albanian propaganda because you do not know better. The same apply for your Ari Mata Ari and Tomy O Jerry and other parrots who endlessly repeat only what they learned. Are you actually members of Parliament in Pristina?

David

pre 4 godine

Croat from Mostar I do not blame you for not wanting to be a Serb. Good choice on pretending to be a Croat you can kind of blend in with the language other then that though Croats and Serbs have nothing else in common.

By the way I believe that EVERY Croatian in the world supports the independence of Kosova, I am willing to bet 100k on that one.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@peter the rocky
Promeni plocu, jednom vec.
Enough of you, your same words day in day out,
Radical Serbs... Repeating like a bird over and over.
Do you know more English words?

Lenard

pre 4 godine

Such desperation by Serbs even some claiming to be Croatians. O wait a minute "Serbs" claim they are Slavic R1a gene pool. Only 18% of the "Serbian" population have Slavic R1a genes. What is the other 82% of the Population of Serbia. You "Serbs" should take a cheap DNA ancestry test you will be totally shocked. You "Serbs" http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Graphics/Haplogroup_I.png have been living a total lie totally deceived.

Dibra e madhe

pre 4 godine

Benny, 22 May 2019 13:55)

We and the rest of the world saw your behavior against the civilians in your culture . Why don’t you lecture us little bit of that ?

LOL

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.
(BE, 22 May 2019 11:08)

Actually historically, Albania didn't exist for another century for anyone to call it "Albanian land" and if it wasn't by the grace and compassion of Austria, what finally materialized as Albania wouldn't have included its southern and northern parts in 1913. Actually historically, in 1809 Albanians were a fraction of what they overbred themselves into two centuries later in most of what they claim is their own today.

Actually historically, Albanians have nothing historical to actually call their own. It's why your propaganda is full of ridiculously tall tales to compensate for your lack of history :)

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Ari.......what is TRUGH..?? I suspect you are trying to write truth....yes?? Jesus Ari, you cant even spell the word never mind knowing the meaning of it....
La La Land is a film, a movie. Its not real, OK???
As for Thaci being around for so long (like his bouncer mate Haradinaj), thats because if any real opposition appears in Pristina its liquidated.....you know, murdered. Just like many witnesses who were going to testify against Haradinaj in the Hague...!!!!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs........Albos coming for Nish...LOL......
Let me guess......the archers at the front with their bows and arrows.......followed by the spear throwers.....
Then I guess its the donkey brigade to finish the job...!??
Hahaha.....LOL.....

Eko

pre 4 godine

@Croat ( Serb ) from Mostar
You are 100% Serb. Stop pretending to be Croat as you know you are hated by Croats. Croats prefer Albanians than you. Albanians never went to war with Croats instead they helped Croats

LOL

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

Yeah, a potty break on your way to Germany with all the other Albanian migrants leaving and never coming back. Only thing we don't know if whether it's a bus stopping in Nis, or they're riding in the trunk of someone's car :)

Time

pre 4 godine

Vucic is upset that Serbia now knows what Vucic will be talking about in Paris. He'd rather have Serbia in a complete dark until he agreed to Kosova's demands. These negotiations are getting very interesting!

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: "Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb."

What a surprise!! More fictitious and absurd claims with no sources, no evidence and no credibility. Don't you guys ever get tired of regurgitating the same crap over and over again? Are we supposed to believe this because "BE" from the B92 forum said so? I think not. Hit the road pal, you are a clown!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE......I'm waiting for you to write to Trump to tell him that America is stolen land from native Americans. You know, the 10s of millions that were murdered and the few that managed to stay alive and put on reservations. And for that matter Canada, Mexico, in fact all of the Americas. Then you can write to the prime ministers of Australia and New Zealand......
Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....

Chi

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 May 2019 11:08

Petey, I think it's more appropriate for you to say, "King me"! Don't forget little buddy, while your political elite (LOL) are playing checkers, Vucic and company are playing chess. Another mistake by Thaci and crew! Keep it up with your childish antics and you just might not get anything out of this deal. I think you guys have finally come to the realization that your support has waned, and now, good old desperation has set in and your gasping for air. My suggestion to you is to take what is generously being offered by Serbia, there's not a chance you'll get a blade of grass more; otherwise, you stand losing everything you've been trying to steal for 20 years.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Be careful Thaci, Mutti Merkel has told you a million times - NO BORDER CHANGES!!! Either you're too stupid to comprehend, or you're not afraid of isolating a tepid ally - neither is good. However, please keep it up with your arrogance, it only suits us better. There is a breaking point, and you're towing the line of losing a majority of your support - that is, whatever little there is left.

Benny

pre 4 godine

We can see that in the moment there is no basic for talks with Prishtina. But why Vucic is every day confirming that he is ready to talk. The problem is deeper. From their culture and low level of education the Albanians are not capable and ready to negotiate complex questions like property or civil rights. But more important is that the Albanians can not in daily life in the communities realize treaties as we see in the ZSO case. There are no simple legal or administrative structures there. Their culture must be developed over a longer period to understand that in the modern world cases are not decided with weapons. But why Vucic is going to Paris instead to say clear NO to the demands from Prishtina. Probably the Albanians are not only bad, they don’t know how to behave, they have never learnt anything different.

LOL

pre 4 godine

LOL more like Thaci has nothing to do but shove his foot in his mouth and stick his thumb up his ass. Is he planning on playing the jester, cuz he's a funny one :)

I see the usual DingDongs already have a hard on for taking this seriously.

Zoran

pre 4 godine

LOL! Albanians are so out of touch with reality. It's good actually as it works very well for Serbia. Let them keep at it and Serbia will continue to get stronger and wait for the inevitable.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

"Thaci again pokes Belgrade in the eye"
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Nah thats Thaci playing peek-a-boo

Croat from Mostar

pre 4 godine

So Thaci is going to ask France if its ok to take more Serbian land for 'historical' innacuracies? What historical map is he looking at? School of enver hoxa is alive and well and cocaine is one hell of a drug. Listen serbs, stand your ground. I hate to say it but the only way to resolve this dispute is through future conflict, winner takes all. You cannot negotiate with these people you give them an inch and they will take a few hundred kilometers. Us Croats are not fond of you Albanians either you get no respect in the balkans and are seen are thieves and criminals by everyone. You cant even manage Albania proper let alone Kosovo and now you want to add more land as an extension of the ghetto, incredible stupidity which will gain 0 support internationaly.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

The arrogance of Thaci & co is amazing. He is playing a dangerous game. His only card is hoping the US supports them. But there comes a point.......

Staff

pre 4 godine

This Thaci he must be either stupid or trying to please the people with totally derranged proposals and demands.
The international community (US, UN, EU, Russia, China, France etc) are trying every week to come up with an idea how to solve this mess with how to split Kosovo.

When it comes to Serbia proper and those cities mentioned, NO ONE, abslolutely NO ONE EVER from the international community has said anything about that those cities should belong to Serbia. Never.
On the opposite, Nato gave a green signal to the Serb army to go in and cleanse the UCPMBL in the boundary zone when those caused trouble there in the beginning of last decade.

As I have told before after knowing, not all, but very much whats going on in diplomatic circles, I can truly say to the Albanians; Forget the whole of Kosovo, it will not happen and if you dont forget, you will be so disappointed that you will die.

BE

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.

Everybody who denies this, is blind and cant take the truth.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!

ari

pre 4 godine

THACI IS TELLING YOU THE TRUGH , IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN LA LA LAND. THACI HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN NEGOTIATIONS THEN ALL SERBIAN DELEGATION PUT TOGETHER. HE IS BEN NEGOTIATING FOR 20 YEARS WITH SERBIAN POLITICIANS . STARTING WITH MILLOSHEVIC IN RAMBUJE AND NOW WITH DACICI AND VUCIC.

KLA = ISIS

pre 4 godine

Haha, why would Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja want to join terrorist kosovaaah****? Are they that desperate for poverty and isolation??

KLA = ISIS

pre 4 godine

Haha, why would Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja want to join terrorist kosovaaah****? Are they that desperate for poverty and isolation??

Croat from Mostar

pre 4 godine

So Thaci is going to ask France if its ok to take more Serbian land for 'historical' innacuracies? What historical map is he looking at? School of enver hoxa is alive and well and cocaine is one hell of a drug. Listen serbs, stand your ground. I hate to say it but the only way to resolve this dispute is through future conflict, winner takes all. You cannot negotiate with these people you give them an inch and they will take a few hundred kilometers. Us Croats are not fond of you Albanians either you get no respect in the balkans and are seen are thieves and criminals by everyone. You cant even manage Albania proper let alone Kosovo and now you want to add more land as an extension of the ghetto, incredible stupidity which will gain 0 support internationaly.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

The arrogance of Thaci & co is amazing. He is playing a dangerous game. His only card is hoping the US supports them. But there comes a point.......

Staff

pre 4 godine

This Thaci he must be either stupid or trying to please the people with totally derranged proposals and demands.
The international community (US, UN, EU, Russia, China, France etc) are trying every week to come up with an idea how to solve this mess with how to split Kosovo.

When it comes to Serbia proper and those cities mentioned, NO ONE, abslolutely NO ONE EVER from the international community has said anything about that those cities should belong to Serbia. Never.
On the opposite, Nato gave a green signal to the Serb army to go in and cleanse the UCPMBL in the boundary zone when those caused trouble there in the beginning of last decade.

As I have told before after knowing, not all, but very much whats going on in diplomatic circles, I can truly say to the Albanians; Forget the whole of Kosovo, it will not happen and if you dont forget, you will be so disappointed that you will die.

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: "Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb."

What a surprise!! More fictitious and absurd claims with no sources, no evidence and no credibility. Don't you guys ever get tired of regurgitating the same crap over and over again? Are we supposed to believe this because "BE" from the B92 forum said so? I think not. Hit the road pal, you are a clown!

Zoran

pre 4 godine

LOL! Albanians are so out of touch with reality. It's good actually as it works very well for Serbia. Let them keep at it and Serbia will continue to get stronger and wait for the inevitable.

LOL

pre 4 godine

LOL more like Thaci has nothing to do but shove his foot in his mouth and stick his thumb up his ass. Is he planning on playing the jester, cuz he's a funny one :)

I see the usual DingDongs already have a hard on for taking this seriously.

BE

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.

Everybody who denies this, is blind and cant take the truth.

ari

pre 4 godine

THACI IS TELLING YOU THE TRUGH , IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN LA LA LAND. THACI HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN NEGOTIATIONS THEN ALL SERBIAN DELEGATION PUT TOGETHER. HE IS BEN NEGOTIATING FOR 20 YEARS WITH SERBIAN POLITICIANS . STARTING WITH MILLOSHEVIC IN RAMBUJE AND NOW WITH DACICI AND VUCIC.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE......I'm waiting for you to write to Trump to tell him that America is stolen land from native Americans. You know, the 10s of millions that were murdered and the few that managed to stay alive and put on reservations. And for that matter Canada, Mexico, in fact all of the Americas. Then you can write to the prime ministers of Australia and New Zealand......
Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!

Eko

pre 4 godine

@Croat ( Serb ) from Mostar
You are 100% Serb. Stop pretending to be Croat as you know you are hated by Croats. Croats prefer Albanians than you. Albanians never went to war with Croats instead they helped Croats

Chi

pre 4 godine

Be careful Thaci, Mutti Merkel has told you a million times - NO BORDER CHANGES!!! Either you're too stupid to comprehend, or you're not afraid of isolating a tepid ally - neither is good. However, please keep it up with your arrogance, it only suits us better. There is a breaking point, and you're towing the line of losing a majority of your support - that is, whatever little there is left.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 May 2019 11:08

Petey, I think it's more appropriate for you to say, "King me"! Don't forget little buddy, while your political elite (LOL) are playing checkers, Vucic and company are playing chess. Another mistake by Thaci and crew! Keep it up with your childish antics and you just might not get anything out of this deal. I think you guys have finally come to the realization that your support has waned, and now, good old desperation has set in and your gasping for air. My suggestion to you is to take what is generously being offered by Serbia, there's not a chance you'll get a blade of grass more; otherwise, you stand losing everything you've been trying to steal for 20 years.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Azir.....oh no, please dont go on about the stone age...!!
Apart from the fact that there is NO proof that you Albos were Illyrians, you cant go back to the dark ages and beyond... If thats your excuse for stealing land, please, please talk about the American continent, Australia and New Zealand.... But you wont say a single word about that, will you?
Others have said it on this site, and I now agree........... you really are an idiot...!!!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

"Thaci again pokes Belgrade in the eye"
_______________________________________________
Nah thats Thaci playing peek-a-boo

Benny

pre 4 godine

We can see that in the moment there is no basic for talks with Prishtina. But why Vucic is every day confirming that he is ready to talk. The problem is deeper. From their culture and low level of education the Albanians are not capable and ready to negotiate complex questions like property or civil rights. But more important is that the Albanians can not in daily life in the communities realize treaties as we see in the ZSO case. There are no simple legal or administrative structures there. Their culture must be developed over a longer period to understand that in the modern world cases are not decided with weapons. But why Vucic is going to Paris instead to say clear NO to the demands from Prishtina. Probably the Albanians are not only bad, they don’t know how to behave, they have never learnt anything different.

David

pre 4 godine

Croat from Mostar I do not blame you for not wanting to be a Serb. Good choice on pretending to be a Croat you can kind of blend in with the language other then that though Croats and Serbs have nothing else in common.

By the way I believe that EVERY Croatian in the world supports the independence of Kosova, I am willing to bet 100k on that one.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......
(VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.

Dibra e madhe

pre 4 godine

Benny, 22 May 2019 13:55)

We and the rest of the world saw your behavior against the civilians in your culture . Why don’t you lecture us little bit of that ?

Lenard

pre 4 godine

Such desperation by Serbs even some claiming to be Croatians. O wait a minute "Serbs" claim they are Slavic R1a gene pool. Only 18% of the "Serbian" population have Slavic R1a genes. What is the other 82% of the Population of Serbia. You "Serbs" should take a cheap DNA ancestry test you will be totally shocked. You "Serbs" http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Graphics/Haplogroup_I.png have been living a total lie totally deceived.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......

Kent

pre 4 godine

@Lenard

Everyone knows the population in the balkans is mixed due to the Roman/Greek/and Ottoman incursions.
This doesnt mean that one does not know their common ancestor.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

... Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. ...
(VIEW FROM UK, 27 May 2019 14:29)

You keep mentioning the Ottoman census of 1455 but you never gave the source of your information - beside me asking you this question numerous times and B92 never publishing it. I know why, it's to create a fake feeling as if Albanians are avoiding to address this issue. To be frank, I doubt this comment will be published too. Anyway, in case of a fluke accident and this comment gets published, here is my observation:

After having browsed the internet, noticeably, the only article that supports your assertion comes from Wikipedia whose author is somebody calling himself/herself TheNavigatrr https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Kosovo, and he/she doesn't give the sources of his/hrr information either - just like you. So, chanced are it is you, because the pattern of getting the information from the mule's butt, like you again, cannot be a coincidence.

Feel free though to bring more Serbian history from mule's butt, all the way from the UK.

LOL

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.
(BE, 22 May 2019 11:08)

Actually historically, Albania didn't exist for another century for anyone to call it "Albanian land" and if it wasn't by the grace and compassion of Austria, what finally materialized as Albania wouldn't have included its southern and northern parts in 1913. Actually historically, in 1809 Albanians were a fraction of what they overbred themselves into two centuries later in most of what they claim is their own today.

Actually historically, Albanians have nothing historical to actually call their own. It's why your propaganda is full of ridiculously tall tales to compensate for your lack of history :)

sj

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

LOL! Only in your Albo dreams. How is the investment in Kosovo strategy going? Anyone move there yet?

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

To:BE. Do furnish me with info how far would you like me to turn the clock back?
Enough of you k albos idiots and lies.
By old maps Serbia stretches right down to the sea
Go back to your beloved Turkey, or Albania.
Stop polluting b92 with lies, insults.

View from Uzice

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies....... (VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?

Time

pre 4 godine

Vucic is upset that Serbia now knows what Vucic will be talking about in Paris. He'd rather have Serbia in a complete dark until he agreed to Kosova's demands. These negotiations are getting very interesting!

richard the lionheart

pre 4 godine

Peter the Rocky Thug you are obsessed with telling Albanian propaganda because you do not know better. The same apply for your Ari Mata Ari and Tomy O Jerry and other parrots who endlessly repeat only what they learned. Are you actually members of Parliament in Pristina?

Azir

pre 4 godine

Liljana please turn your clock back to the 6/7 Century when the Balkans was yet to be contaminated by Slavs such as yourself.

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians

sj

pre 4 godine

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians
(Azir, 23 May 2019 11:25)

How goats going Azir?

S.R

pre 4 godine

I LOVE IT!

Keep making absurd territorial claims against Serbia everywhere you go Thaci! The international community is slowly realizing what a cluster^#*% the Kosovo* situation has become because of the KLA terrorists.

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words."

So what does this mean BE? The Serbian language has many Turkish words and we don't claim to be Turks. The English language has many Greek and Latin words, yet American and English people don't claim to be Latin and Greek. Your logic is flawed, or better stated, nonexistent.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Ari.......what is TRUGH..?? I suspect you are trying to write truth....yes?? Jesus Ari, you cant even spell the word never mind knowing the meaning of it....
La La Land is a film, a movie. Its not real, OK???
As for Thaci being around for so long (like his bouncer mate Haradinaj), thats because if any real opposition appears in Pristina its liquidated.....you know, murdered. Just like many witnesses who were going to testify against Haradinaj in the Hague...!!!!

LOL

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

Yeah, a potty break on your way to Germany with all the other Albanian migrants leaving and never coming back. Only thing we don't know if whether it's a bus stopping in Nis, or they're riding in the trunk of someone's car :)

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs........Albos coming for Nish...LOL......
Let me guess......the archers at the front with their bows and arrows.......followed by the spear throwers.....
Then I guess its the donkey brigade to finish the job...!??
Hahaha.....LOL.....

Tito reloaded

pre 4 godine

@Lenard: beside that all humans are mixed.
Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs are all yugoslavs. Divided by religion (also having the same god). United by language, culture, food, music, love for sport, marriages,....

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - You still haven't answered my question about if Albanians are Illyrians, why are they called Albanians? When and why did the name change take place? Surely an unemployed doorman from the Bronx like yourself has time to research these questions. Or perhaps the real answer is there is no connection between the ancient Illyrians and Albanians. Still waiting for you reply Azir...and waiting...and waiting...

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@peter the rocky
Promeni plocu, jednom vec.
Enough of you, your same words day in day out,
Radical Serbs... Repeating like a bird over and over.
Do you know more English words?

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - If Albanians are Illyrians why do you call yourselves Albanians? When did the name change from Illyrian to Albanian take place and why? Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL

BE

pre 4 godine

I am very happy you asked, so I can make it clear for you. This is a deep topic which takes time to study and understand.
Yes all languages have words they have borrowed from other languages. Because we use words like "Autobus" or "Internet", doesn't mean albanians have german or english root.
We also have turkish words we have borrowed, but that doesn't mean that we are turks.

We have to look at the core of the language (family tree). You speak serbian, which belongs to the slavic language, and we speak albanian, which if you look at the family tree is an isolated language, which means it doesn't connect with other languages.

The core of the language are simple words used like "I am hungry" "I will take a walk".. These are words that are very old, since they have been used from our ancestors.

Then we have words for "things" that we use, which can be "Shovel", "Hammer", "Shoes", which often can be words we borrowed from others. In the old days, when people exchange things, they often didn't know what to called the things. If the person who made it was turkish, the word was turkish.

In Albania and Kosovo they have found many writings, which are very similar to albanian language. Here are some comparison.

English = Curse
Albanian = Nëm
Illyrian = Nem

English = Sea
Albanian = Deti
Illyrian = Theti

English = Rabbit
Albanian = Lepur
Illyrian = Leporis

My comment is to long now. Hope this cleared out things.

BE

pre 4 godine

sj,

You are a very angry person. Often liars get upset when you accuse them of lying. No manners ;)

You are also a very prejudice person. Because I come from a certian group/nationality, then I must be working with toilets. This tells much of you as a person :)

BE

pre 4 godine

Albanians are origins of Dardanians, who where there before byzantine-time. The serbs came there in 7-century.

We can spend all day talking what was what. The most important thing is the future. Two countries living in peace side by side :)

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.
(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44) # Comment link
__________________________________________________________________________

Since south slav identity is divided into the following religions :

Catholic croat
Orthodox serb
Muslim bosniak

What would be the identity of a south Slav converted Buddhism be??????

LOL just LOL barbarians telling us about religion AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Azir

pre 4 godine

Delusional Serb view from UK:

Insults doesn’t change the fact that Slavs were foreigners to indigenous Shqiptares...

Proof is in all the Universities tracking DNA lineage...

Somewhere you could never grasp mentally.

All of our indigenous homelands will be liberated and your failed Apartheid system results in Slav Serb settlers implants returning home to Belgrade losers celebrating like winners 😂

Be happy you’ll still tolerated in Europe.

Goran

pre 4 godine

Albanians are not Illyrians Serbs on the other hand were.. And this is even documented by historians. Here is just 1 example from Laonikos Chalkokondyles a Greek historian from 14th century... https://vesna.atlantidaforum.com/?p=568 it says here on the link and i quote: Serbs
Chalkokondyles wrote that the Serbs are “the greatest and oldest people on Earth“, noting that they are the autochtonous population of the Balkans and identified them with groups such as Illyrians. His work is the basis of the revisionist autochtonist Serbian historical school.
,,Τριβαλλοι, Σερβλοι, ο δε ευνοζ παλαιοτατον και μεγιοτον των ευνων…
“Tryballos, Serblos, autem gentem esse totius orbis antiquissimam et maximam, compertum habeo…” So Illyrians were Serbs.. Its not our fault Albanians cant except the fact that it was Serbs who were actually Illyrians and not Albanians aka Shqipetars, thats what name they go under in their language.

BE

pre 4 godine

(sj, 24 May 2019 12:50)

There a many illyrians writings across Albania and Kosovo, which actually have been profen to be pretty close to albanian language.

I recommend you visit other countries, so you can open your mind a bit and get new knowledge. Sitting around in Serbia and doing nothing wont develop your brain very much.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 4 godine

Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL
(njegos, 23 May 2019 17:33) #

It's the same way like the Greeks call their country Elada Elines and Albanians use the same names like Illyria, Arberia, Albania, Shqiperia in different time periods of our history.

BE

pre 4 godine

Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....
(VIEW FROM UK)

Well I can ask you the same thing? You (Serbs) are tiring us with, Oh Kosovo is ours, because of the 1389 battle, and therefor it is our land for EVEEEER! In this case lets go back 1 million years and see whos land it was.

Kosovo today, in 2019, is 92% albanian. We don't want to be a part of serbia - and therefor we are a country. End of story.

View from Užice

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right? (View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs. (Chi, 23 May 2019 17:15)

You guys keep changing your definition of an ethnicity to suit your argument. By the very fact of living within the borders of a specific country and being normal citizens, they qualify as Serbs... right. After all, that's how all Serbs became Serbs in the first place. They lived under Serbian rulers as normal citizens.

sj

pre 4 godine

Cheers
(BE, 24 May 2019 11:50)

Little wonder the western masters wipe their feet on your Albos LOL.
The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????
Where do these morons come from? Its an endless supply of idiots.

sj

pre 4 godine

(BE, 24 May 2019 13:13)

How stupid are you?????? The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????The endless supply of idiots continues.

I have been to 94 countries on this planet while you clean toilets in malls and I don’t live in Serbia.

sj

pre 4 godine

And sj. They're two sides of the same coin.
(Same coin, 24 May 2019 14:24)

Not really I am a lot smarter than your albos or the goat herder Azir.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?
(View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs.

Concerned Albanian

pre 4 godine

At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link.

(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44)

Slavic migration came to the Balkans in the 6th century; some even earlier. Not as a nation but as refugees in what was once the Roman Empire. After many hundreds of years these Slavs formed the Kingdom of Serbia. A nation within the Roman Empire before it's fall. History repeats itself. Kosovar Albanians formed a nation within an Empire before its fall. Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

Why you all are paying attention to this "Azir" type?

He admitted long time ago that he's not even an Alb.
He never 've been in the Balkans, doesn't even speak or understand the language.

He's just a sad little Oghuz Turkmen or Chechen Ingush obsessed with Albania.
For sure he's from one of the former Soviet republics and fled to the USA once the opportunity arose.

Just ignore him

BE

pre 4 godine

Goran*

Wow haha, you read an article from an greek historian, who is known to write fake articles about albanians.
And also the illyrian language is not close to serbian language. Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words.

Serbian language is slavic language and you came to the balkans in the 7th-century (migration of Slavs).

Cheers

sj

pre 4 godine

(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Yugoslav academics only peddled Tito’s Communist ideals and its no wonder you quote these people. These are the same people who wrote about Tito and how the world would have ceased to exist without his benevolence so I’d give them a wide berth.
Is there at least one Albo that has attended a real university?
There is no proof Albanians where in the Balkans before the Serbs – not a shred and making idiotic claims does not improve the evidence of proof. A theory is speculation, but once evidence is produced then it becomes fact and no evidence has EVER been produced to substantiate your claims.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE, you still dont answer anything.
In an earlier post you say historicaly half of Serbia is Albanian...!? Well, historicaly all of Americas is native American.... right??
Tell us what your claim is for stealing Kosovo.....is it based on history, or is it that Albos are now the majority? And remember that you must apply the same rules to everyone.
If its hitorical then for sure you must campaign for whites to leave the Americas, Australia, etc. Right? If its because of current populations then that leaves the door open for chaos around the world. For example in West Yorkshire we now have a huge muslim population (soon to be a majority). Will they be entitled to independence in 10/20 years? New Mexico has a 47% hispanic population. Soon they will be a majority. Will they have a right to independence? There are many other examples, but you get the point.
Seems to me that you use any "fact" you can think of to justify theft. But you use these principles where its beneficial to the Albanian cause. And that is stealing land.

BE

pre 4 godine

VIEW FROM UK

There a two facts here.
1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history. My ancestors who lived in a village called Pllana, which today is in south serbia, was driven away from their home back in 1877-78.
2. Old turkish map from the ottoman empire, shows where different groups lived in balkans. In the map you clearly see the albanian territories. I am not trying to use just some facts I can find, just to make a point. I am using real facts.

And for the other point about the 92% of albanians living in Kosovo. If we take away the history and just focus on today, you will see that 92% of the Kosovo people are albanians. We were treated as 2nd class citieziens back in Yugo-time, and today we have decided to be an independent country.
Also, you cant compare West Yorkshire who has muslim population, who now deserves to have their own country. You know as well as me, that the albanians always have been there. We didnt come from arabia or turkey, as many serbians claim, just to drag us down.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 27 May 2019 15:45)

Now fictive Italian Albo had you received a proper tertiary education you would know that the vast amount of information used to teach at universities is contained in their libraries and about 95% of that stuff is not on the internet. Now if you went to university it would have stopped you from drawing your knowledge base from the rear end of a mule.
Perhaps you did go to Pristina University which is the equivalent to 6 grade schooling.

sj

pre 4 godine

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.
(BE, 28 May 2019 08:47)

An Albo calling Serbs primitive LOL. One thing Serbs dont have is blood feuds like your Albos. Living in the west does not make you a westerner its only an Albo living there.

sj

pre 4 godine

Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.
(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Is there an Albanian who has actually attended a real university and I dont mean one of those many fakes in the US where anything goes?

"Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians"

Jugoslav academics had to kiss Titos arse to get promoted so they would write anything. If your not up to speed there are no Yugoslav academics left.

You have no idea the difference between theory and proof. Eric Von Danykin had a theory that the pyramids were built by little green men but when he shows actual proof then it is no longer a theory but FACT.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE you go back in points of history to justify your cause. Anyone can point to history to justify anything. For example, the Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. You see, thats a point in history that points to the fact that Kosovo was Serbian and Albanians came later.
As for Albanians being 2nd class citizens in Yugoslavia that is debatable. I know Albanians have been calling for independence for 50/60 years, right? If Serbs were the dominant force in Yugoslavia then why is it that Slovenia and Croatia had a higher standard of living?
And you ignore the European invasion of the Americas or Australia. Convenient....
Many Albanians claim Serbia attacked Kosovo in the late 90s. No, that was because of the formation of the KLA well before 98/99.
You can not just start a conflict and play the victim. Half the world does not recognise Kosovo and its a stale mate. Your protectors (USA) are in it for their own interests and that support will disappear in time. This will end in war again and I think Albanians will lose everything in Kosovo.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs......you believe anything you wish, but you keep denying facts.
I would suggest you stop taking those drugs (I know its hard because Kosovo and Albania is awash with them).
I also note that you only see what you want to see, and anything you dont like you ignore as if its not real.
Stop with the lies and propaganda.

sj

pre 4 godine

1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history.

Yep it answers all. From personal family history. I suppose your family also spoke and wrote in Illyrian LOL.

BE

pre 4 godine

My next stop is Pristina, I need to have my donkey groomed real bad.
(Willy Shine,

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.

ari

pre 4 godine

THACI IS TELLING YOU THE TRUGH , IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN LA LA LAND. THACI HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN NEGOTIATIONS THEN ALL SERBIAN DELEGATION PUT TOGETHER. HE IS BEN NEGOTIATING FOR 20 YEARS WITH SERBIAN POLITICIANS . STARTING WITH MILLOSHEVIC IN RAMBUJE AND NOW WITH DACICI AND VUCIC.

BE

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.

Everybody who denies this, is blind and cant take the truth.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!

KLA = ISIS

pre 4 godine

Haha, why would Presevo, Bujanovac and Medvedja want to join terrorist kosovaaah****? Are they that desperate for poverty and isolation??

Croat from Mostar

pre 4 godine

So Thaci is going to ask France if its ok to take more Serbian land for 'historical' innacuracies? What historical map is he looking at? School of enver hoxa is alive and well and cocaine is one hell of a drug. Listen serbs, stand your ground. I hate to say it but the only way to resolve this dispute is through future conflict, winner takes all. You cannot negotiate with these people you give them an inch and they will take a few hundred kilometers. Us Croats are not fond of you Albanians either you get no respect in the balkans and are seen are thieves and criminals by everyone. You cant even manage Albania proper let alone Kosovo and now you want to add more land as an extension of the ghetto, incredible stupidity which will gain 0 support internationaly.

Staff

pre 4 godine

This Thaci he must be either stupid or trying to please the people with totally derranged proposals and demands.
The international community (US, UN, EU, Russia, China, France etc) are trying every week to come up with an idea how to solve this mess with how to split Kosovo.

When it comes to Serbia proper and those cities mentioned, NO ONE, abslolutely NO ONE EVER from the international community has said anything about that those cities should belong to Serbia. Never.
On the opposite, Nato gave a green signal to the Serb army to go in and cleanse the UCPMBL in the boundary zone when those caused trouble there in the beginning of last decade.

As I have told before after knowing, not all, but very much whats going on in diplomatic circles, I can truly say to the Albanians; Forget the whole of Kosovo, it will not happen and if you dont forget, you will be so disappointed that you will die.

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: "Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb."

What a surprise!! More fictitious and absurd claims with no sources, no evidence and no credibility. Don't you guys ever get tired of regurgitating the same crap over and over again? Are we supposed to believe this because "BE" from the B92 forum said so? I think not. Hit the road pal, you are a clown!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

The arrogance of Thaci & co is amazing. He is playing a dangerous game. His only card is hoping the US supports them. But there comes a point.......

Eko

pre 4 godine

@Croat ( Serb ) from Mostar
You are 100% Serb. Stop pretending to be Croat as you know you are hated by Croats. Croats prefer Albanians than you. Albanians never went to war with Croats instead they helped Croats

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE......I'm waiting for you to write to Trump to tell him that America is stolen land from native Americans. You know, the 10s of millions that were murdered and the few that managed to stay alive and put on reservations. And for that matter Canada, Mexico, in fact all of the Americas. Then you can write to the prime ministers of Australia and New Zealand......
Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....

Benny

pre 4 godine

We can see that in the moment there is no basic for talks with Prishtina. But why Vucic is every day confirming that he is ready to talk. The problem is deeper. From their culture and low level of education the Albanians are not capable and ready to negotiate complex questions like property or civil rights. But more important is that the Albanians can not in daily life in the communities realize treaties as we see in the ZSO case. There are no simple legal or administrative structures there. Their culture must be developed over a longer period to understand that in the modern world cases are not decided with weapons. But why Vucic is going to Paris instead to say clear NO to the demands from Prishtina. Probably the Albanians are not only bad, they don’t know how to behave, they have never learnt anything different.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Check Mate!

And the radical-serbian-thugs were hoping that they would be able to out fox a true fox, keep hoping you thugs!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 22 May 2019 11:08

Petey, I think it's more appropriate for you to say, "King me"! Don't forget little buddy, while your political elite (LOL) are playing checkers, Vucic and company are playing chess. Another mistake by Thaci and crew! Keep it up with your childish antics and you just might not get anything out of this deal. I think you guys have finally come to the realization that your support has waned, and now, good old desperation has set in and your gasping for air. My suggestion to you is to take what is generously being offered by Serbia, there's not a chance you'll get a blade of grass more; otherwise, you stand losing everything you've been trying to steal for 20 years.

Zoran

pre 4 godine

LOL! Albanians are so out of touch with reality. It's good actually as it works very well for Serbia. Let them keep at it and Serbia will continue to get stronger and wait for the inevitable.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

"Thaci again pokes Belgrade in the eye"
_______________________________________________
Nah thats Thaci playing peek-a-boo

LOL

pre 4 godine

LOL more like Thaci has nothing to do but shove his foot in his mouth and stick his thumb up his ass. Is he planning on playing the jester, cuz he's a funny one :)

I see the usual DingDongs already have a hard on for taking this seriously.

Chi

pre 4 godine

Be careful Thaci, Mutti Merkel has told you a million times - NO BORDER CHANGES!!! Either you're too stupid to comprehend, or you're not afraid of isolating a tepid ally - neither is good. However, please keep it up with your arrogance, it only suits us better. There is a breaking point, and you're towing the line of losing a majority of your support - that is, whatever little there is left.

S.R

pre 4 godine

I LOVE IT!

Keep making absurd territorial claims against Serbia everywhere you go Thaci! The international community is slowly realizing what a cluster^#*% the Kosovo* situation has become because of the KLA terrorists.

Lenard

pre 4 godine

Such desperation by Serbs even some claiming to be Croatians. O wait a minute "Serbs" claim they are Slavic R1a gene pool. Only 18% of the "Serbian" population have Slavic R1a genes. What is the other 82% of the Population of Serbia. You "Serbs" should take a cheap DNA ancestry test you will be totally shocked. You "Serbs" http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Graphics/Haplogroup_I.png have been living a total lie totally deceived.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@peter the rocky
Promeni plocu, jednom vec.
Enough of you, your same words day in day out,
Radical Serbs... Repeating like a bird over and over.
Do you know more English words?

richard the lionheart

pre 4 godine

Peter the Rocky Thug you are obsessed with telling Albanian propaganda because you do not know better. The same apply for your Ari Mata Ari and Tomy O Jerry and other parrots who endlessly repeat only what they learned. Are you actually members of Parliament in Pristina?

sj

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

LOL! Only in your Albo dreams. How is the investment in Kosovo strategy going? Anyone move there yet?

LOL

pre 4 godine

Next stop - Nish.
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2019 14:46)

Yeah, a potty break on your way to Germany with all the other Albanian migrants leaving and never coming back. Only thing we don't know if whether it's a bus stopping in Nis, or they're riding in the trunk of someone's car :)

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs........Albos coming for Nish...LOL......
Let me guess......the archers at the front with their bows and arrows.......followed by the spear throwers.....
Then I guess its the donkey brigade to finish the job...!??
Hahaha.....LOL.....

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

To:BE. Do furnish me with info how far would you like me to turn the clock back?
Enough of you k albos idiots and lies.
By old maps Serbia stretches right down to the sea
Go back to your beloved Turkey, or Albania.
Stop polluting b92 with lies, insults.

LOL

pre 4 godine

Actually, historically, if we must see the truth in the eyes, half of serbian land is albanian land. The Serbia from 1809 map, is the real serbian land, the rest is stolen from albanians by killing them and changing their nationality to serb.
(BE, 22 May 2019 11:08)

Actually historically, Albania didn't exist for another century for anyone to call it "Albanian land" and if it wasn't by the grace and compassion of Austria, what finally materialized as Albania wouldn't have included its southern and northern parts in 1913. Actually historically, in 1809 Albanians were a fraction of what they overbred themselves into two centuries later in most of what they claim is their own today.

Actually historically, Albanians have nothing historical to actually call their own. It's why your propaganda is full of ridiculously tall tales to compensate for your lack of history :)

Chi

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......
(VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Ari.......what is TRUGH..?? I suspect you are trying to write truth....yes?? Jesus Ari, you cant even spell the word never mind knowing the meaning of it....
La La Land is a film, a movie. Its not real, OK???
As for Thaci being around for so long (like his bouncer mate Haradinaj), thats because if any real opposition appears in Pristina its liquidated.....you know, murdered. Just like many witnesses who were going to testify against Haradinaj in the Hague...!!!!

Azir

pre 4 godine

Liljana please turn your clock back to the 6/7 Century when the Balkans was yet to be contaminated by Slavs such as yourself.

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians

sj

pre 4 godine

The time when indigenous Shqiptare were the undiluted and unpolluted race .

Haven’t you noticed no one wants to be associated with the Serbs not even the Montenegrians
(Azir, 23 May 2019 11:25)

How goats going Azir?

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Azir.....oh no, please dont go on about the stone age...!!
Apart from the fact that there is NO proof that you Albos were Illyrians, you cant go back to the dark ages and beyond... If thats your excuse for stealing land, please, please talk about the American continent, Australia and New Zealand.... But you wont say a single word about that, will you?
Others have said it on this site, and I now agree........... you really are an idiot...!!!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies.......

Kent

pre 4 godine

@Lenard

Everyone knows the population in the balkans is mixed due to the Roman/Greek/and Ottoman incursions.
This doesnt mean that one does not know their common ancestor.

David

pre 4 godine

Croat from Mostar I do not blame you for not wanting to be a Serb. Good choice on pretending to be a Croat you can kind of blend in with the language other then that though Croats and Serbs have nothing else in common.

By the way I believe that EVERY Croatian in the world supports the independence of Kosova, I am willing to bet 100k on that one.

Tito reloaded

pre 4 godine

@Lenard: beside that all humans are mixed.
Bosnians, Croatians, Serbs are all yugoslavs. Divided by religion (also having the same god). United by language, culture, food, music, love for sport, marriages,....

njegos

pre 4 godine

From BE: Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words."

So what does this mean BE? The Serbian language has many Turkish words and we don't claim to be Turks. The English language has many Greek and Latin words, yet American and English people don't claim to be Latin and Greek. Your logic is flawed, or better stated, nonexistent.

Goran

pre 4 godine

Albanians are not Illyrians Serbs on the other hand were.. And this is even documented by historians. Here is just 1 example from Laonikos Chalkokondyles a Greek historian from 14th century... https://vesna.atlantidaforum.com/?p=568 it says here on the link and i quote: Serbs
Chalkokondyles wrote that the Serbs are “the greatest and oldest people on Earth“, noting that they are the autochtonous population of the Balkans and identified them with groups such as Illyrians. His work is the basis of the revisionist autochtonist Serbian historical school.
,,Τριβαλλοι, Σερβλοι, ο δε ευνοζ παλαιοτατον και μεγιοτον των ευνων…
“Tryballos, Serblos, autem gentem esse totius orbis antiquissimam et maximam, compertum habeo…” So Illyrians were Serbs.. Its not our fault Albanians cant except the fact that it was Serbs who were actually Illyrians and not Albanians aka Shqipetars, thats what name they go under in their language.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE you go back in points of history to justify your cause. Anyone can point to history to justify anything. For example, the Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. You see, thats a point in history that points to the fact that Kosovo was Serbian and Albanians came later.
As for Albanians being 2nd class citizens in Yugoslavia that is debatable. I know Albanians have been calling for independence for 50/60 years, right? If Serbs were the dominant force in Yugoslavia then why is it that Slovenia and Croatia had a higher standard of living?
And you ignore the European invasion of the Americas or Australia. Convenient....
Many Albanians claim Serbia attacked Kosovo in the late 90s. No, that was because of the formation of the KLA well before 98/99.
You can not just start a conflict and play the victim. Half the world does not recognise Kosovo and its a stale mate. Your protectors (USA) are in it for their own interests and that support will disappear in time. This will end in war again and I think Albanians will lose everything in Kosovo.

Time

pre 4 godine

Vucic is upset that Serbia now knows what Vucic will be talking about in Paris. He'd rather have Serbia in a complete dark until he agreed to Kosova's demands. These negotiations are getting very interesting!

Azir

pre 4 godine

Delusional Serb view from UK:

Insults doesn’t change the fact that Slavs were foreigners to indigenous Shqiptares...

Proof is in all the Universities tracking DNA lineage...

Somewhere you could never grasp mentally.

All of our indigenous homelands will be liberated and your failed Apartheid system results in Slav Serb settlers implants returning home to Belgrade losers celebrating like winners 😂

Be happy you’ll still tolerated in Europe.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 4 godine

Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL
(njegos, 23 May 2019 17:33) #

It's the same way like the Greeks call their country Elada Elines and Albanians use the same names like Illyria, Arberia, Albania, Shqiperia in different time periods of our history.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Tom O'Drugs......you believe anything you wish, but you keep denying facts.
I would suggest you stop taking those drugs (I know its hard because Kosovo and Albania is awash with them).
I also note that you only see what you want to see, and anything you dont like you ignore as if its not real.
Stop with the lies and propaganda.

Dibra e madhe

pre 4 godine

Benny, 22 May 2019 13:55)

We and the rest of the world saw your behavior against the civilians in your culture . Why don’t you lecture us little bit of that ?

Chi

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?
(View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs.

BE

pre 4 godine

Goran*

Wow haha, you read an article from an greek historian, who is known to write fake articles about albanians.
And also the illyrian language is not close to serbian language. Albanian and illyrian language are similar in many words.

Serbian language is slavic language and you came to the balkans in the 7th-century (migration of Slavs).

Cheers

sj

pre 4 godine

(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Yugoslav academics only peddled Tito’s Communist ideals and its no wonder you quote these people. These are the same people who wrote about Tito and how the world would have ceased to exist without his benevolence so I’d give them a wide berth.
Is there at least one Albo that has attended a real university?
There is no proof Albanians where in the Balkans before the Serbs – not a shred and making idiotic claims does not improve the evidence of proof. A theory is speculation, but once evidence is produced then it becomes fact and no evidence has EVER been produced to substantiate your claims.

sj

pre 4 godine

Cheers
(BE, 24 May 2019 11:50)

Little wonder the western masters wipe their feet on your Albos LOL.
The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????
Where do these morons come from? Its an endless supply of idiots.

sj

pre 4 godine

(BE, 24 May 2019 13:13)

How stupid are you?????? The Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare Illyrian and Albanian?????The endless supply of idiots continues.

I have been to 94 countries on this planet while you clean toilets in malls and I don’t live in Serbia.

sj

pre 4 godine

And sj. They're two sides of the same coin.
(Same coin, 24 May 2019 14:24)

Not really I am a lot smarter than your albos or the goat herder Azir.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - You still haven't answered my question about if Albanians are Illyrians, why are they called Albanians? When and why did the name change take place? Surely an unemployed doorman from the Bronx like yourself has time to research these questions. Or perhaps the real answer is there is no connection between the ancient Illyrians and Albanians. Still waiting for you reply Azir...and waiting...and waiting...

njegos

pre 4 godine

Hey Azir - If Albanians are Illyrians why do you call yourselves Albanians? When did the name change from Illyrian to Albanian take place and why? Can't wait to read your response. Eagerly awaiting your reply Mr. Historian...LOL

sj

pre 4 godine

Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.
(Concerned Albanian, 24 May 2019 06:38)

Is there an Albanian who has actually attended a real university and I dont mean one of those many fakes in the US where anything goes?

"Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians"

Jugoslav academics had to kiss Titos arse to get promoted so they would write anything. If your not up to speed there are no Yugoslav academics left.

You have no idea the difference between theory and proof. Eric Von Danykin had a theory that the pyramids were built by little green men but when he shows actual proof then it is no longer a theory but FACT.

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

Why you all are paying attention to this "Azir" type?

He admitted long time ago that he's not even an Alb.
He never 've been in the Balkans, doesn't even speak or understand the language.

He's just a sad little Oghuz Turkmen or Chechen Ingush obsessed with Albania.
For sure he's from one of the former Soviet republics and fled to the USA once the opportunity arose.

Just ignore him

BE

pre 4 godine

(sj, 24 May 2019 12:50)

There a many illyrians writings across Albania and Kosovo, which actually have been profen to be pretty close to albanian language.

I recommend you visit other countries, so you can open your mind a bit and get new knowledge. Sitting around in Serbia and doing nothing wont develop your brain very much.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

BE, you still dont answer anything.
In an earlier post you say historicaly half of Serbia is Albanian...!? Well, historicaly all of Americas is native American.... right??
Tell us what your claim is for stealing Kosovo.....is it based on history, or is it that Albos are now the majority? And remember that you must apply the same rules to everyone.
If its hitorical then for sure you must campaign for whites to leave the Americas, Australia, etc. Right? If its because of current populations then that leaves the door open for chaos around the world. For example in West Yorkshire we now have a huge muslim population (soon to be a majority). Will they be entitled to independence in 10/20 years? New Mexico has a 47% hispanic population. Soon they will be a majority. Will they have a right to independence? There are many other examples, but you get the point.
Seems to me that you use any "fact" you can think of to justify theft. But you use these principles where its beneficial to the Albanian cause. And that is stealing land.

sj

pre 4 godine

1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history.

Yep it answers all. From personal family history. I suppose your family also spoke and wrote in Illyrian LOL.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 4 godine

UK, the best thing that ever happened to Serbs is having Croats and Albanians. Now hear me out before you jump to any conclusion. At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link. The Croats and Albanians, deep down, know that their bloodlines are Serbian, but would never admit it. However, over the centuries, the Albania bloodline had taken on more of a Turkish majority. So, my point being, the Croats and Albanians hate the Serbs because they're embarrassed of their families historic cowardice, and they try to justify it by lying that they have been in the Balkans forever - they actually have, but when they were Serbian Orthodox.
(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44) # Comment link
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Since south slav identity is divided into the following religions :

Catholic croat
Orthodox serb
Muslim bosniak

What would be the identity of a south Slav converted Buddhism be??????

LOL just LOL barbarians telling us about religion AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

BE

pre 4 godine

sj,

You are a very angry person. Often liars get upset when you accuse them of lying. No manners ;)

You are also a very prejudice person. Because I come from a certian group/nationality, then I must be working with toilets. This tells much of you as a person :)

BE

pre 4 godine

Come on BE, when are you gonna start to put those wrongs to right???? I am eagerly awaiting your answer to these injustices..... LOL.....
(VIEW FROM UK)

Well I can ask you the same thing? You (Serbs) are tiring us with, Oh Kosovo is ours, because of the 1389 battle, and therefor it is our land for EVEEEER! In this case lets go back 1 million years and see whos land it was.

Kosovo today, in 2019, is 92% albanian. We don't want to be a part of serbia - and therefor we are a country. End of story.

sj

pre 4 godine

(Tom L'Orizi, 27 May 2019 15:45)

Now fictive Italian Albo had you received a proper tertiary education you would know that the vast amount of information used to teach at universities is contained in their libraries and about 95% of that stuff is not on the internet. Now if you went to university it would have stopped you from drawing your knowledge base from the rear end of a mule.
Perhaps you did go to Pristina University which is the equivalent to 6 grade schooling.

View from Uzice

pre 4 godine

Leonard....We in the UK have a mixed pool of people. Over the centuries we have had Romans, Vikings, French, Dutch, etc all come over and many settled. But they now all British.
I'm a bit curious to know what Croats have in their DNA.....
I'm guessing a lot of fascist genes sprinkled with nazi murderous tendencies....... (VIEW FROM UK, 23 May 2019 13:09)

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right?

Concerned Albanian

pre 4 godine

At one point in the Balkan history, everyone was Serbian; however, the cowardly Serbian people that converted to Catholicism and Islam just cleaned up our weakest link.

(Chi, 23 May 2019 15:44)

Slavic migration came to the Balkans in the 6th century; some even earlier. Not as a nation but as refugees in what was once the Roman Empire. After many hundreds of years these Slavs formed the Kingdom of Serbia. A nation within the Roman Empire before it's fall. History repeats itself. Kosovar Albanians formed a nation within an Empire before its fall. Yugoslav academics accept the theory Albanians were there first. But that doesn't secede the rights of Serbs living in today's Balkans.

BE

pre 4 godine

I am very happy you asked, so I can make it clear for you. This is a deep topic which takes time to study and understand.
Yes all languages have words they have borrowed from other languages. Because we use words like "Autobus" or "Internet", doesn't mean albanians have german or english root.
We also have turkish words we have borrowed, but that doesn't mean that we are turks.

We have to look at the core of the language (family tree). You speak serbian, which belongs to the slavic language, and we speak albanian, which if you look at the family tree is an isolated language, which means it doesn't connect with other languages.

The core of the language are simple words used like "I am hungry" "I will take a walk".. These are words that are very old, since they have been used from our ancestors.

Then we have words for "things" that we use, which can be "Shovel", "Hammer", "Shoes", which often can be words we borrowed from others. In the old days, when people exchange things, they often didn't know what to called the things. If the person who made it was turkish, the word was turkish.

In Albania and Kosovo they have found many writings, which are very similar to albanian language. Here are some comparison.

English = Curse
Albanian = Nëm
Illyrian = Nem

English = Sea
Albanian = Deti
Illyrian = Theti

English = Rabbit
Albanian = Lepur
Illyrian = Leporis

My comment is to long now. Hope this cleared out things.

BE

pre 4 godine

VIEW FROM UK

There a two facts here.
1. Historically, half or serbia is albanian land. I am talking now with facts that are based on personal family history. My ancestors who lived in a village called Pllana, which today is in south serbia, was driven away from their home back in 1877-78.
2. Old turkish map from the ottoman empire, shows where different groups lived in balkans. In the map you clearly see the albanian territories. I am not trying to use just some facts I can find, just to make a point. I am using real facts.

And for the other point about the 92% of albanians living in Kosovo. If we take away the history and just focus on today, you will see that 92% of the Kosovo people are albanians. We were treated as 2nd class citieziens back in Yugo-time, and today we have decided to be an independent country.
Also, you cant compare West Yorkshire who has muslim population, who now deserves to have their own country. You know as well as me, that the albanians always have been there. We didnt come from arabia or turkey, as many serbians claim, just to drag us down.

BE

pre 4 godine

Albanians are origins of Dardanians, who where there before byzantine-time. The serbs came there in 7-century.

We can spend all day talking what was what. The most important thing is the future. Two countries living in peace side by side :)

Tom L'Orizi

pre 4 godine

... Turkish Ottomans (not Serbs) conducted a census in 1455. That census recorded only 0.25% Albanian population in Kosovo. Well over 90% were Serbs. ...
(VIEW FROM UK, 27 May 2019 14:29)

You keep mentioning the Ottoman census of 1455 but you never gave the source of your information - beside me asking you this question numerous times and B92 never publishing it. I know why, it's to create a fake feeling as if Albanians are avoiding to address this issue. To be frank, I doubt this comment will be published too. Anyway, in case of a fluke accident and this comment gets published, here is my observation:

After having browsed the internet, noticeably, the only article that supports your assertion comes from Wikipedia whose author is somebody calling himself/herself TheNavigatrr https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Kosovo, and he/she doesn't give the sources of his/hrr information either - just like you. So, chanced are it is you, because the pattern of getting the information from the mule's butt, like you again, cannot be a coincidence.

Feel free though to bring more Serbian history from mule's butt, all the way from the UK.

BE

pre 4 godine

My next stop is Pristina, I need to have my donkey groomed real bad.
(Willy Shine,

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.

sj

pre 4 godine

You still use donkeys in Serbia? Wow u guys are primitive.
(BE, 28 May 2019 08:47)

An Albo calling Serbs primitive LOL. One thing Serbs dont have is blood feuds like your Albos. Living in the west does not make you a westerner its only an Albo living there.

View from Užice

pre 4 godine

Then, Slovakians, Romanians, and Hungarians who have lived inside the border of Serbia for centuries qualify as Serbs, right? (View from Uzice, 23 May 2019 15:45)

Only their offspring if they had children with a Serbs. However, I do understand that everyone wants to be, or be associated with, Serbs. (Chi, 23 May 2019 17:15)

You guys keep changing your definition of an ethnicity to suit your argument. By the very fact of living within the borders of a specific country and being normal citizens, they qualify as Serbs... right. After all, that's how all Serbs became Serbs in the first place. They lived under Serbian rulers as normal citizens.