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Wednesday, 15.05.2019.

09:24

"War criminals have no place in Kosovo government"

The US embassy in Pristina is concerned over the decision of the Pristina government to appoint individuals convicted of war crimes to leading positions.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Peggy

pre 4 godine

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.
(Armand, 17 May 2019 07:52)
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I don't have to think hard to answer you.
First of all Kosovo is not lost and I have heard so many reason here why "we lost Kosovo".
Anything that comes up becomes a reason why we lost Kosovo.
So you can see, we don't give a damn what you think or care for any reasons you can come up with for Kosovo being temporarily run by the Mafia.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....to finish from my last point...you say Albanians have been calling for independence well before the start of the troubles in the early '90s. That is true. So, the KLA was planned and financed well before the Serbian forces went in. You have to admit the KLA started the conflict. They then played the victim. But good lobbying and paying the likes of Bob Dole got Albanians support. The point is that this was planned decades ago, to rip Kosovo from Serbia, right? And now we see Albanians blame Serbia for starting a war..!?? Smoke and mirrors sprinkled with lies such as Racak (which the Hague will not touch because it was a hoax and set up). As for US policies of invasions, war, etc around the world you say its a force for good? Thats amazing. Please dont say that to Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, most of central and S Americas, Vietnamese, etc, etc.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....you are right about the crimes committed by BOTH sides. I have said many times that a lot of Serbs deserve to be in jails now. However the other sides criminals appear to walk free. Operation storm in '95....nobody is guilty of this? Amazing. Nesar Oric walk free after murdering a few thousand civilians. How come? Many other examples but you get the point. Have not heard any Croat or Albanian or Bosnian muslim condemn these crimes. How come? It appears very one sided.
As for the US power I have to say you seriously underestimate Russia. 5% of US power?? The US will not go against Russia as we have seen in Syria, Ukraine and now Venezuela. Hell the Yanks wont take on N Korea due to them having nukes...
As for Trepca, yes its worth a lot. Is that the reason Americans got involved? You see, I think the US dont give a toss Serbs or Albanians. As for the future it looks bleak. I can not see Serbia recognising Kosovo. They have too much support around the world, and some big players amongst them. It could go to war again and I do not think the big forces will get involved. They wont risk a mega conflict for the sake of Serbs or Albanians. It could be just the Albanians and Serbs fighting it out.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion.
I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

Every country and every military organization did a few evil things.

I was talking not about NATO / USA / Russia / Croatia (you name them) - but about suitcases full of D-Mark smuggled to Pristina by our usual suspects.

That money was "made" by illegal gambling, prostitution and drugs, by the very same usual suspects. And that was the money which created the KLA.

There is no judicial proof of course. But the entire Serbian community and a huge part of Albanian community believes, this is the truth.

Even if that would be incorrect, such accusations should encourage the involved "politicians" to retire voluntarily, in peace.

And we are back to the square one: if you finance your independence and freedom with such money, only corruption and even more crime will grow.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

I am not talking about USA or NATO. Your strong counter-argument should be probably something like:

"yes, but Arkan's money was also sourced from illegal gambling / prostitution / drugs / robberies".

That would be correct - but his "cause" pretty much died with him. Unfortunately that money is still all over Balkans.

I wonder, maybe some part of it is even shared with KLA.

After all, criminals do understand very well each other.

Armand

pre 4 godine

Peggy...

Life does not go the way you want it all the time. I want the Yankees to win the World Series every year but they don't win it do they??

Come back to reality. Just because things don't go in your favor it don't mean its not right.

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.
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He was not proven not guilty. He wasn't proven guilty. That is a HUGE difference. The fact that all the witnessed came to an untimely death is just to be overlooked.

Armand

pre 4 godine

(Ataman, 16 May 2019 12:58)

We speak the same language. The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.


You can bring that argument up for Croatia as well since the wars in the Balkans were all a domino effect. My opinion is that the Independence of Kosovo was only a matter of time once Yugoslavia started falling apart. Heck if you know the history. Protests started in Prishtina way before anything popped off in Slovenia and that the Albanians wanted independence. Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization. Because while it might not be perfect the U.S has done far more good then bad when you weight it out.

Armand

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.

Now as far as being another armed conflict in the Balkans. I personally do not think that will happen. The U.S is involved and heavily invested in Kosovo. I am 100% aware they have their interests as any country does. Trepqa being one of them. Because when it is privatized i can assure you 100% that it will be a U.S company who gets the bid. Trepca has a value of 2 trillion dollars of minerals and the U.S will will for sure go to war for 2 trillion dollars we all know that. And we both are aware that if it came to a armed conflict Russia isnt even 5% of the capability of the U.S. There is too many factors to list here on how this would play out. But if Serbia and Russia thought that they could take Kosovo back through means of war i think they would have already done it.

I think what we should talk about is the displacement of Serbs in Kosovo after the war where their homes were taken and such as well as Albanians who deserve justice for their family being murdered and their homes being burned down. I think they deserve justice for that. In my opinion until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo and both sides agree to work with eachother none of those vicitms will ever get justice.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere...US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.
(VIEW FROM UK, 16 May 2019 14:07)

If corruption is everywhere then US support for Kosovo means that the US supports corruption. Since the same logic applies to China and Russia, therefore Chinese and Russian support for Serbia means Russia and China support corruption. Therefore, it is difficult to see how the US could be the most terrible country in the world (as has been your primary thesis since you began posting here), considering that they all are in the same boat. (Not that I agree but this is your logic.)

Perhaps this is where your "But some are over the top" qualification comes into play. I would say the murder of millions of helpless souls by Soviet and Chinese dictators would easily qualify. Although the Kosovo situation is irritating and frustrating, I don't think it can be compared to the ruthless killing of millions of helpless souls.

Armand

pre 4 godine

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

You have to understand during the war many people lost homes on both sides. Albanians can bring up how many of their homes were burnt down by the Serb Military. These things will take a long time till they get resolved with the courts in both countries refusing to work with eachother to try to figure who got expelled from their homes and who needs to be paid for their home being burnt down. It is a very complex issue. Now we can agree to disagree and thats fine. But the frozen conflict you have going on right now is bad for both sides and victims from both sides. My opinion is until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo no Serb will be able to get justice if they were wrongfully pushed out their homes and such. You need cooperation from both sides to make this work. Until then you will have these issues.

Max Otto

pre 4 godine

View from UK,
You seem to overlook the most likely scenario in the event of another Balkan War. Should, Serbia attack Kosovo, they will also be attacking NATO, as NATO is in Kosovo. That will be the biggest mistake that Serbia would make. The rest will be left for you to conclude.

gelen

pre 4 godine

to: Time

What you are saying is massive lie and Albanian propaganda. It is obvious here that Albanian convicted war criminals are freely walking on streets of Pristina and running unlawfully self-proclaimed parliament, not even hiding from the Justice.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Atarman and Armand......at last some serious debate on real issues. Many things I agree with but not all. Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere. But some are over the top.
I think the western powers certainly supported Kosovo ignoring international law, crimes by BOTH sides, etc. Haradinaj did get off twice for his crimes, but everyone knows that witnesses were terrified and some murdered or disappeared. So to say he is not guilty is a joke, and we all know it.
We have now hit a wall where a few powerful countries have dug in. The US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

Jeremiah,

I believe that your question can be answered only by non-corrupt K-Albanian politicians.

So let them sort out first-most the corruption and crime. That will be very tough.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 10:25)

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Armand,

Thanks for probably the first very serious and honest Albanian opinion since years.

Obviously I do not agree with you 100% this time. 50% is probably enough for the start.

#1: Haradinaj is formally not a war criminal - but the large part of Albanian and the entire Serbian community believes, he is.
In such case a man of honor would quietly resign (under a condition that his past is being forgotten).

This is what I believe he should do. He did not.

The most horrible fate of such people (see Mira Markovic!) is to live under a quasi-house-arrest in Moscow, on the same street where some savage ex-dictators of minor African countries do.

This is the future I wish for Haradinaj. May Mira Markovic be his long-time neighbor, for the rest of their hopefully long life.

#2: Absolutely agree, but Saudi Arabia is even worse. Radical clerics (of any religion) have nothing to do with the religion. By the way, U.K., with their clerics from Pakistan is far worse than Kosovo. I have no connection to U.K. anymore and they are maybe out of EU soon (who knows?) - so it is not the problem #1. But still a problem.

#3: If you want to be independent - be my guest. If Pristina does not want to listen to Belgrade - be my guest. The problem is, that the K-Albanian nationalist agenda was financed by organized crime.
As long as Albanians do not clean up their own crime and corruption - not much sympathy from Serbia or Russia.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

>>1. Corrupt polticians
>>3. Serbia.

Armand,

We speak the same language.
The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.

As a result everything good was canceled out.

I have no idea, how to solve it. For geo - political reasons (to counter-balance Russia or China) the so-called "West" did side with the organized crime.

It is absolutely wrong, harmful for the entire community and won't last forever.

As said, no idea how to solve it. For sure, this situation will not only "conserve" warlords + corruption in Kosovo, but same unholy forces will be "conserved" in Serbia. See Vucic & Co.

I just hope at one point reason will prevail.

Al

pre 4 godine

War criminals or corrupt politicians is how the western world works. Truth and integrity is a sin. Double standards and bypassing law and order makes you a guardian angel.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 06:04)

Absolutely agree, Armand.
My biggest personal problem is not Albanian, but US-Midwestern, Franco-Alemanian, Hungarian and Russian corruption.

If I would have nine lives like a cat, even one won't be enough to eliminate any of the above.

Sad to say, but for me the problem of the Serbian or Albanian corruption comes only when all the above are solved.

Good luck...

Armand

pre 4 godine

Ataman.

This is my opinion on what are the biggest issues in Kosovo.

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.( I dont entertain the idea of serbs in this comments section about Haradinaj being a war criminal and such due to the fact he was proven not guilty 2 times by the Hague)

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.

Armand

pre 4 godine

The statement the U.S Embassy put out is 100% correct. No one that is convicted of a war crime should hold office what so ever.

That is the biggest issue that Kosovo faces today. That's internal corruption that is ruining it with in.

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

If one of the requirements is to have a qualification to govern, what exactly qualified Snake and Haradinaj? Which university have the got a degree from?

Peggy

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)
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Ok then, how many people in Serbian government have criminal records and who are they?
Where does it say it is a requirement? Aren't you telling porkies here?

Time

pre 4 godine

LOL, 15 May 2019 17:12

It is 2019 and Serbs are still being prosecuted for the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova. The number of serbs that are in jail right now for committing massive crimes on innocent civilians is only the tip of the iceberg. There are so many more to be prosecuted. Kosova's Special Court for the serbians that committed crimes in Kosova will be officially formed tomorrow. Stay tuned and see all of your serb criminal fugitives that have been living in rat holes be dragged out to face the Justice.

boro

pre 4 godine

Most of politicians in unlawfully self-proclaimed Kosovo state on territory of sovereign country of Serbia are convicted war criminals. The proofs are hidden or destroyed by them or their mentors.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

If war criminals have a place in this government then perhaps we should be hoping for a better government:

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@the truth
No one, but no one gets sentenced to
SIX YEARS IN PRISON FOR COMMITTING A MINOR CRIME!!!
He is convicted criminal. And after serving the sentence it stays with one for the rest of life.

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

@ timeaj - funny how Albanian crimes are "minor", but in Serbian Government, EVERYBODY is a killers and ALL are murderers:)

HYPOCRITE to the core!

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@time
Excuse me. A person you represent and say he committed a minor crime. If he committed a minor crime he would not be sentenced to SIX YEARS in prison!
In any law SIX YEARS is the major crime.
Just to balance you steal a Mars bar and you are the criminal. It's minor crime but enough to make you unemployable.
I use to employ people and check past history and in uk we check references and ensure we do not employ anyone with criminal record even if they did steal just one mars bar they would have criminal record.
As for Kosovo *so called gov. I understand most are the criminals. You nerd to have people in gov. With clean plate, to be an example.

Time

pre 4 godine

This is what happens in "Glorious" Serbia where the president threatens people daily...
Serbia is sheltering the main suspect in Ivanovich's killing and threatening every person that was called to talk about Ivanovich's killing. This does not look suspicious at all🤣!


TRAJKOVIC PRESSES CHARGES AGAINST VUCIC AND DJURIC

Rada Trajkovic, leader of the European Movement for Kosovo, has pressed charges against Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic and the head of the Serbian Government’s Office for Kosovo, Marko Djuric.

Trajkovic’s attorney said Vucic and Djuric, in separate public statements, accused her client of betraying the Serbian state and people and of cooperating with foreign intelligence services, thus endangering her security.

LOL

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

LOL

Dude seriously, it's 2019, not 1999. All of Serbia's war criminals are either convicted, sentenced, serving, or have served. It's Kosovo* that the Ancillary US Ambassador to Serbia in the Pristina Office was referring to because only in Europe's Youngest Democracy can one find democratically elected war criminals who have escaped justice by murdering, threatening, or simply bribing their way to multiple mistrials. Everyone in Europe knows this, which is why no civilized state wants to grant you people visa-free access.

If you were referring to Kyle Scott's criticism of General Lazarevic, now there was a man who "served" his time. Albanians have yet TO serve time and do everything they can to scuttle the KLA War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. They'll tear gas parliament; they'll deflect attention though boycotts and taxation rates that hurt their own people; Hell, the Albanian war criminals will even call for the establishment of a war crimes tribunal for Serbs in Pristina. And if all else fails, they'll scurry under America's skirt hoping for protection and diplomatic immunity.

Common facts, bro. Get your trolling up a few notches. Your comment is amateur work at best :)

Time

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.

Navi

pre 4 godine

Kosovo's government is largely nothing *but* war criminals. Take away the war criminals and you have less than 20% of its elected officials.

Watcher

pre 4 godine

, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.
(Time, 15 May 2019 13:40)

@ timeaj- of course, I would expect nothing less from “ Europe’s youngest democracy “, LOL

Come on, “ kosovaaaa”, show the civilized world you’re a beacon of light and hope for all who wish to steal a portion of somebody else’s land, put war criminals and terrorists in charge and call it a “ country”, 🤣 🤣

If it wasn’t so sad, it would be hilarious!

Time

pre 4 godine

The US ambassador in Kosova is free to speak his mind. The person he is talking about has already served his time. Unlike serbs that cry when any ambassador says anything about Serbia, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.

vrata

pre 4 godine

Mr. Ambassador there is no Kosovo Albo qualified, or has the educational requirements to be in the Kosovo government, unfortunately you have failed to recognize this all this time. Kosovo is run by Albo terrorist, mafia, drug dealing thugs, thank former president Clinton for his help creating this mess!!

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

USA, EU along 102 countries that recognized kosovo *an illegal country created this MONSTER
consisting of war criminals.
A huge mistake to run before you can walk. The monster is full hands, not abiding by law nor any agreement. No respect for anyone, a law unto themselves.
Rep Serbia told you so. Late resident Tito, late Mr Milosevic had more than enogh of k albos. And now Mr Vucic.
Let serbian army go in and sort out. After all KiM is our.
Enogh of k albos spitting, laughing into the face of EU, Cefta, Nato, UN. Ridiculing ms mogerini and Mr Vucic.
Impose sanctions upon Kosovo *.
Stop sending aid that's spent on creation of illegal army, and purchase of amunition. Do ask yourself who is this monster kosovo*? So called sovreign, republic, democratic filled with war criminals.
Deeds not words.

Nema

pre 4 godine

@All the Albo's

''But but but america is supposed to hold our hand and tell us that our dreams will become true!!'''

See you guys even manage the make supporting you hard for the people that really want to be your ally let alone people who are indifferent.

And where are all the albo's now when they where yelling about the demonstrations against vucic when the albo's are now throwing molotov coctails towards idi rama?

And albania the biggest supporter of albanians in kosovo is called the most corrupt country in europ by all european organisation... that you want to join... How?

Lucy

pre 4 godine

I mean Serbs are not innocent if it either. A lot of them have false diplomas bought upon eBay, and tneybahbe transformed them into their own credentials and resume, and Everyon bought into it. See we're all similar in one way or another.

Peace! Serbia 2. Kosovo 0

Lucy

pre 4 godine

This statement is funny. What means in Kosovo or Albania a proper qualification? Such a qualification would disturb the social feeling. You can buy all relevant papers there. More important would be a basic understanding how a state administration works without giviving positions to relatives and friends. But the US knew all this before 1998/99. So the crocodile tears are useless. It is now how it is. What is a bank robbery against founding a bank, or better a central bank and a government. This was realized in Prishtina, in Tirana years before.

Principa, Gracanica, kosovo & Metohija Srbija

pre 4 godine

The US "qualified" the whole cabal when they had the CIA train up and created the terrorist mafiocracy that they and their NATO warmonger partners waged illegal war against FRY (Serbia and Montenegro) 1999 and have since occupied and flagrantly flaunted international laws. Their Muppet/puppets Haradinaj/Thaci and the rest of their mobsters lack any credibility beyond US failed foreign policy.

It's a pack of cards collapsing in on itself, US unipolar world idea of western "democracy" BS has ceased to be and becoming evident all the more.

Now what they do with the puppets is going to be a huge headache for US, what is clear is the still born, Frankenstein, so called non entity is lost!

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

USA, EU along 102 countries that recognized kosovo *an illegal country created this MONSTER
consisting of war criminals.
A huge mistake to run before you can walk. The monster is full hands, not abiding by law nor any agreement. No respect for anyone, a law unto themselves.
Rep Serbia told you so. Late resident Tito, late Mr Milosevic had more than enogh of k albos. And now Mr Vucic.
Let serbian army go in and sort out. After all KiM is our.
Enogh of k albos spitting, laughing into the face of EU, Cefta, Nato, UN. Ridiculing ms mogerini and Mr Vucic.
Impose sanctions upon Kosovo *.
Stop sending aid that's spent on creation of illegal army, and purchase of amunition. Do ask yourself who is this monster kosovo*? So called sovreign, republic, democratic filled with war criminals.
Deeds not words.

Principa, Gracanica, kosovo & Metohija Srbija

pre 4 godine

The US "qualified" the whole cabal when they had the CIA train up and created the terrorist mafiocracy that they and their NATO warmonger partners waged illegal war against FRY (Serbia and Montenegro) 1999 and have since occupied and flagrantly flaunted international laws. Their Muppet/puppets Haradinaj/Thaci and the rest of their mobsters lack any credibility beyond US failed foreign policy.

It's a pack of cards collapsing in on itself, US unipolar world idea of western "democracy" BS has ceased to be and becoming evident all the more.

Now what they do with the puppets is going to be a huge headache for US, what is clear is the still born, Frankenstein, so called non entity is lost!

Nema

pre 4 godine

@All the Albo's

''But but but america is supposed to hold our hand and tell us that our dreams will become true!!'''

See you guys even manage the make supporting you hard for the people that really want to be your ally let alone people who are indifferent.

And where are all the albo's now when they where yelling about the demonstrations against vucic when the albo's are now throwing molotov coctails towards idi rama?

And albania the biggest supporter of albanians in kosovo is called the most corrupt country in europ by all european organisation... that you want to join... How?

vrata

pre 4 godine

Mr. Ambassador there is no Kosovo Albo qualified, or has the educational requirements to be in the Kosovo government, unfortunately you have failed to recognize this all this time. Kosovo is run by Albo terrorist, mafia, drug dealing thugs, thank former president Clinton for his help creating this mess!!

Lucy

pre 4 godine

This statement is funny. What means in Kosovo or Albania a proper qualification? Such a qualification would disturb the social feeling. You can buy all relevant papers there. More important would be a basic understanding how a state administration works without giviving positions to relatives and friends. But the US knew all this before 1998/99. So the crocodile tears are useless. It is now how it is. What is a bank robbery against founding a bank, or better a central bank and a government. This was realized in Prishtina, in Tirana years before.

Watcher

pre 4 godine

, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.
(Time, 15 May 2019 13:40)

@ timeaj- of course, I would expect nothing less from “ Europe’s youngest democracy “, LOL

Come on, “ kosovaaaa”, show the civilized world you’re a beacon of light and hope for all who wish to steal a portion of somebody else’s land, put war criminals and terrorists in charge and call it a “ country”, 🤣 🤣

If it wasn’t so sad, it would be hilarious!

Navi

pre 4 godine

Kosovo's government is largely nothing *but* war criminals. Take away the war criminals and you have less than 20% of its elected officials.

LOL

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

LOL

Dude seriously, it's 2019, not 1999. All of Serbia's war criminals are either convicted, sentenced, serving, or have served. It's Kosovo* that the Ancillary US Ambassador to Serbia in the Pristina Office was referring to because only in Europe's Youngest Democracy can one find democratically elected war criminals who have escaped justice by murdering, threatening, or simply bribing their way to multiple mistrials. Everyone in Europe knows this, which is why no civilized state wants to grant you people visa-free access.

If you were referring to Kyle Scott's criticism of General Lazarevic, now there was a man who "served" his time. Albanians have yet TO serve time and do everything they can to scuttle the KLA War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. They'll tear gas parliament; they'll deflect attention though boycotts and taxation rates that hurt their own people; Hell, the Albanian war criminals will even call for the establishment of a war crimes tribunal for Serbs in Pristina. And if all else fails, they'll scurry under America's skirt hoping for protection and diplomatic immunity.

Common facts, bro. Get your trolling up a few notches. Your comment is amateur work at best :)

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

@ timeaj - funny how Albanian crimes are "minor", but in Serbian Government, EVERYBODY is a killers and ALL are murderers:)

HYPOCRITE to the core!

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@the truth
No one, but no one gets sentenced to
SIX YEARS IN PRISON FOR COMMITTING A MINOR CRIME!!!
He is convicted criminal. And after serving the sentence it stays with one for the rest of life.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@time
Excuse me. A person you represent and say he committed a minor crime. If he committed a minor crime he would not be sentenced to SIX YEARS in prison!
In any law SIX YEARS is the major crime.
Just to balance you steal a Mars bar and you are the criminal. It's minor crime but enough to make you unemployable.
I use to employ people and check past history and in uk we check references and ensure we do not employ anyone with criminal record even if they did steal just one mars bar they would have criminal record.
As for Kosovo *so called gov. I understand most are the criminals. You nerd to have people in gov. With clean plate, to be an example.

boro

pre 4 godine

Most of politicians in unlawfully self-proclaimed Kosovo state on territory of sovereign country of Serbia are convicted war criminals. The proofs are hidden or destroyed by them or their mentors.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)
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Ok then, how many people in Serbian government have criminal records and who are they?
Where does it say it is a requirement? Aren't you telling porkies here?

Lucy

pre 4 godine

I mean Serbs are not innocent if it either. A lot of them have false diplomas bought upon eBay, and tneybahbe transformed them into their own credentials and resume, and Everyon bought into it. See we're all similar in one way or another.

Peace! Serbia 2. Kosovo 0

Time

pre 4 godine

The US ambassador in Kosova is free to speak his mind. The person he is talking about has already served his time. Unlike serbs that cry when any ambassador says anything about Serbia, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.

gelen

pre 4 godine

to: Time

What you are saying is massive lie and Albanian propaganda. It is obvious here that Albanian convicted war criminals are freely walking on streets of Pristina and running unlawfully self-proclaimed parliament, not even hiding from the Justice.

Time

pre 4 godine

LOL, 15 May 2019 17:12

It is 2019 and Serbs are still being prosecuted for the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova. The number of serbs that are in jail right now for committing massive crimes on innocent civilians is only the tip of the iceberg. There are so many more to be prosecuted. Kosova's Special Court for the serbians that committed crimes in Kosova will be officially formed tomorrow. Stay tuned and see all of your serb criminal fugitives that have been living in rat holes be dragged out to face the Justice.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

If one of the requirements is to have a qualification to govern, what exactly qualified Snake and Haradinaj? Which university have the got a degree from?

Al

pre 4 godine

War criminals or corrupt politicians is how the western world works. Truth and integrity is a sin. Double standards and bypassing law and order makes you a guardian angel.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Atarman and Armand......at last some serious debate on real issues. Many things I agree with but not all. Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere. But some are over the top.
I think the western powers certainly supported Kosovo ignoring international law, crimes by BOTH sides, etc. Haradinaj did get off twice for his crimes, but everyone knows that witnesses were terrified and some murdered or disappeared. So to say he is not guilty is a joke, and we all know it.
We have now hit a wall where a few powerful countries have dug in. The US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 10:25)

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?

Time

pre 4 godine

This is what happens in "Glorious" Serbia where the president threatens people daily...
Serbia is sheltering the main suspect in Ivanovich's killing and threatening every person that was called to talk about Ivanovich's killing. This does not look suspicious at all🤣!


TRAJKOVIC PRESSES CHARGES AGAINST VUCIC AND DJURIC

Rada Trajkovic, leader of the European Movement for Kosovo, has pressed charges against Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic and the head of the Serbian Government’s Office for Kosovo, Marko Djuric.

Trajkovic’s attorney said Vucic and Djuric, in separate public statements, accused her client of betraying the Serbian state and people and of cooperating with foreign intelligence services, thus endangering her security.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Armand,

Thanks for probably the first very serious and honest Albanian opinion since years.

Obviously I do not agree with you 100% this time. 50% is probably enough for the start.

#1: Haradinaj is formally not a war criminal - but the large part of Albanian and the entire Serbian community believes, he is.
In such case a man of honor would quietly resign (under a condition that his past is being forgotten).

This is what I believe he should do. He did not.

The most horrible fate of such people (see Mira Markovic!) is to live under a quasi-house-arrest in Moscow, on the same street where some savage ex-dictators of minor African countries do.

This is the future I wish for Haradinaj. May Mira Markovic be his long-time neighbor, for the rest of their hopefully long life.

#2: Absolutely agree, but Saudi Arabia is even worse. Radical clerics (of any religion) have nothing to do with the religion. By the way, U.K., with their clerics from Pakistan is far worse than Kosovo. I have no connection to U.K. anymore and they are maybe out of EU soon (who knows?) - so it is not the problem #1. But still a problem.

#3: If you want to be independent - be my guest. If Pristina does not want to listen to Belgrade - be my guest. The problem is, that the K-Albanian nationalist agenda was financed by organized crime.
As long as Albanians do not clean up their own crime and corruption - not much sympathy from Serbia or Russia.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

Jeremiah,

I believe that your question can be answered only by non-corrupt K-Albanian politicians.

So let them sort out first-most the corruption and crime. That will be very tough.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.
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He was not proven not guilty. He wasn't proven guilty. That is a HUGE difference. The fact that all the witnessed came to an untimely death is just to be overlooked.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....you are right about the crimes committed by BOTH sides. I have said many times that a lot of Serbs deserve to be in jails now. However the other sides criminals appear to walk free. Operation storm in '95....nobody is guilty of this? Amazing. Nesar Oric walk free after murdering a few thousand civilians. How come? Many other examples but you get the point. Have not heard any Croat or Albanian or Bosnian muslim condemn these crimes. How come? It appears very one sided.
As for the US power I have to say you seriously underestimate Russia. 5% of US power?? The US will not go against Russia as we have seen in Syria, Ukraine and now Venezuela. Hell the Yanks wont take on N Korea due to them having nukes...
As for Trepca, yes its worth a lot. Is that the reason Americans got involved? You see, I think the US dont give a toss Serbs or Albanians. As for the future it looks bleak. I can not see Serbia recognising Kosovo. They have too much support around the world, and some big players amongst them. It could go to war again and I do not think the big forces will get involved. They wont risk a mega conflict for the sake of Serbs or Albanians. It could be just the Albanians and Serbs fighting it out.

Time

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.

Max Otto

pre 4 godine

View from UK,
You seem to overlook the most likely scenario in the event of another Balkan War. Should, Serbia attack Kosovo, they will also be attacking NATO, as NATO is in Kosovo. That will be the biggest mistake that Serbia would make. The rest will be left for you to conclude.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....to finish from my last point...you say Albanians have been calling for independence well before the start of the troubles in the early '90s. That is true. So, the KLA was planned and financed well before the Serbian forces went in. You have to admit the KLA started the conflict. They then played the victim. But good lobbying and paying the likes of Bob Dole got Albanians support. The point is that this was planned decades ago, to rip Kosovo from Serbia, right? And now we see Albanians blame Serbia for starting a war..!?? Smoke and mirrors sprinkled with lies such as Racak (which the Hague will not touch because it was a hoax and set up). As for US policies of invasions, war, etc around the world you say its a force for good? Thats amazing. Please dont say that to Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, most of central and S Americas, Vietnamese, etc, etc.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

If war criminals have a place in this government then perhaps we should be hoping for a better government:

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)

Armand

pre 4 godine

The statement the U.S Embassy put out is 100% correct. No one that is convicted of a war crime should hold office what so ever.

That is the biggest issue that Kosovo faces today. That's internal corruption that is ruining it with in.

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 06:04)

Absolutely agree, Armand.
My biggest personal problem is not Albanian, but US-Midwestern, Franco-Alemanian, Hungarian and Russian corruption.

If I would have nine lives like a cat, even one won't be enough to eliminate any of the above.

Sad to say, but for me the problem of the Serbian or Albanian corruption comes only when all the above are solved.

Good luck...

Peggy

pre 4 godine

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.
(Armand, 17 May 2019 07:52)
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I don't have to think hard to answer you.
First of all Kosovo is not lost and I have heard so many reason here why "we lost Kosovo".
Anything that comes up becomes a reason why we lost Kosovo.
So you can see, we don't give a damn what you think or care for any reasons you can come up with for Kosovo being temporarily run by the Mafia.

Armand

pre 4 godine

Ataman.

This is my opinion on what are the biggest issues in Kosovo.

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.( I dont entertain the idea of serbs in this comments section about Haradinaj being a war criminal and such due to the fact he was proven not guilty 2 times by the Hague)

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere...US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.
(VIEW FROM UK, 16 May 2019 14:07)

If corruption is everywhere then US support for Kosovo means that the US supports corruption. Since the same logic applies to China and Russia, therefore Chinese and Russian support for Serbia means Russia and China support corruption. Therefore, it is difficult to see how the US could be the most terrible country in the world (as has been your primary thesis since you began posting here), considering that they all are in the same boat. (Not that I agree but this is your logic.)

Perhaps this is where your "But some are over the top" qualification comes into play. I would say the murder of millions of helpless souls by Soviet and Chinese dictators would easily qualify. Although the Kosovo situation is irritating and frustrating, I don't think it can be compared to the ruthless killing of millions of helpless souls.

Armand

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.

Now as far as being another armed conflict in the Balkans. I personally do not think that will happen. The U.S is involved and heavily invested in Kosovo. I am 100% aware they have their interests as any country does. Trepqa being one of them. Because when it is privatized i can assure you 100% that it will be a U.S company who gets the bid. Trepca has a value of 2 trillion dollars of minerals and the U.S will will for sure go to war for 2 trillion dollars we all know that. And we both are aware that if it came to a armed conflict Russia isnt even 5% of the capability of the U.S. There is too many factors to list here on how this would play out. But if Serbia and Russia thought that they could take Kosovo back through means of war i think they would have already done it.

I think what we should talk about is the displacement of Serbs in Kosovo after the war where their homes were taken and such as well as Albanians who deserve justice for their family being murdered and their homes being burned down. I think they deserve justice for that. In my opinion until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo and both sides agree to work with eachother none of those vicitms will ever get justice.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

>>1. Corrupt polticians
>>3. Serbia.

Armand,

We speak the same language.
The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.

As a result everything good was canceled out.

I have no idea, how to solve it. For geo - political reasons (to counter-balance Russia or China) the so-called "West" did side with the organized crime.

It is absolutely wrong, harmful for the entire community and won't last forever.

As said, no idea how to solve it. For sure, this situation will not only "conserve" warlords + corruption in Kosovo, but same unholy forces will be "conserved" in Serbia. See Vucic & Co.

I just hope at one point reason will prevail.

Armand

pre 4 godine

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

You have to understand during the war many people lost homes on both sides. Albanians can bring up how many of their homes were burnt down by the Serb Military. These things will take a long time till they get resolved with the courts in both countries refusing to work with eachother to try to figure who got expelled from their homes and who needs to be paid for their home being burnt down. It is a very complex issue. Now we can agree to disagree and thats fine. But the frozen conflict you have going on right now is bad for both sides and victims from both sides. My opinion is until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo no Serb will be able to get justice if they were wrongfully pushed out their homes and such. You need cooperation from both sides to make this work. Until then you will have these issues.

Armand

pre 4 godine

(Ataman, 16 May 2019 12:58)

We speak the same language. The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.


You can bring that argument up for Croatia as well since the wars in the Balkans were all a domino effect. My opinion is that the Independence of Kosovo was only a matter of time once Yugoslavia started falling apart. Heck if you know the history. Protests started in Prishtina way before anything popped off in Slovenia and that the Albanians wanted independence. Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization. Because while it might not be perfect the U.S has done far more good then bad when you weight it out.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion.
I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

Every country and every military organization did a few evil things.

I was talking not about NATO / USA / Russia / Croatia (you name them) - but about suitcases full of D-Mark smuggled to Pristina by our usual suspects.

That money was "made" by illegal gambling, prostitution and drugs, by the very same usual suspects. And that was the money which created the KLA.

There is no judicial proof of course. But the entire Serbian community and a huge part of Albanian community believes, this is the truth.

Even if that would be incorrect, such accusations should encourage the involved "politicians" to retire voluntarily, in peace.

And we are back to the square one: if you finance your independence and freedom with such money, only corruption and even more crime will grow.

Armand

pre 4 godine

Peggy...

Life does not go the way you want it all the time. I want the Yankees to win the World Series every year but they don't win it do they??

Come back to reality. Just because things don't go in your favor it don't mean its not right.

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

I am not talking about USA or NATO. Your strong counter-argument should be probably something like:

"yes, but Arkan's money was also sourced from illegal gambling / prostitution / drugs / robberies".

That would be correct - but his "cause" pretty much died with him. Unfortunately that money is still all over Balkans.

I wonder, maybe some part of it is even shared with KLA.

After all, criminals do understand very well each other.

Lucy

pre 4 godine

I mean Serbs are not innocent if it either. A lot of them have false diplomas bought upon eBay, and tneybahbe transformed them into their own credentials and resume, and Everyon bought into it. See we're all similar in one way or another.

Peace! Serbia 2. Kosovo 0

Time

pre 4 godine

The US ambassador in Kosova is free to speak his mind. The person he is talking about has already served his time. Unlike serbs that cry when any ambassador says anything about Serbia, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.

Time

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.

Time

pre 4 godine

This is what happens in "Glorious" Serbia where the president threatens people daily...
Serbia is sheltering the main suspect in Ivanovich's killing and threatening every person that was called to talk about Ivanovich's killing. This does not look suspicious at all🤣!


TRAJKOVIC PRESSES CHARGES AGAINST VUCIC AND DJURIC

Rada Trajkovic, leader of the European Movement for Kosovo, has pressed charges against Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic and the head of the Serbian Government’s Office for Kosovo, Marko Djuric.

Trajkovic’s attorney said Vucic and Djuric, in separate public statements, accused her client of betraying the Serbian state and people and of cooperating with foreign intelligence services, thus endangering her security.

Time

pre 4 godine

LOL, 15 May 2019 17:12

It is 2019 and Serbs are still being prosecuted for the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova. The number of serbs that are in jail right now for committing massive crimes on innocent civilians is only the tip of the iceberg. There are so many more to be prosecuted. Kosova's Special Court for the serbians that committed crimes in Kosova will be officially formed tomorrow. Stay tuned and see all of your serb criminal fugitives that have been living in rat holes be dragged out to face the Justice.

Principa, Gracanica, kosovo & Metohija Srbija

pre 4 godine

The US "qualified" the whole cabal when they had the CIA train up and created the terrorist mafiocracy that they and their NATO warmonger partners waged illegal war against FRY (Serbia and Montenegro) 1999 and have since occupied and flagrantly flaunted international laws. Their Muppet/puppets Haradinaj/Thaci and the rest of their mobsters lack any credibility beyond US failed foreign policy.

It's a pack of cards collapsing in on itself, US unipolar world idea of western "democracy" BS has ceased to be and becoming evident all the more.

Now what they do with the puppets is going to be a huge headache for US, what is clear is the still born, Frankenstein, so called non entity is lost!

Armand

pre 4 godine

Ataman.

This is my opinion on what are the biggest issues in Kosovo.

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.( I dont entertain the idea of serbs in this comments section about Haradinaj being a war criminal and such due to the fact he was proven not guilty 2 times by the Hague)

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.

Lucy

pre 4 godine

This statement is funny. What means in Kosovo or Albania a proper qualification? Such a qualification would disturb the social feeling. You can buy all relevant papers there. More important would be a basic understanding how a state administration works without giviving positions to relatives and friends. But the US knew all this before 1998/99. So the crocodile tears are useless. It is now how it is. What is a bank robbery against founding a bank, or better a central bank and a government. This was realized in Prishtina, in Tirana years before.

Armand

pre 4 godine

(Ataman, 16 May 2019 12:58)

We speak the same language. The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.


You can bring that argument up for Croatia as well since the wars in the Balkans were all a domino effect. My opinion is that the Independence of Kosovo was only a matter of time once Yugoslavia started falling apart. Heck if you know the history. Protests started in Prishtina way before anything popped off in Slovenia and that the Albanians wanted independence. Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization. Because while it might not be perfect the U.S has done far more good then bad when you weight it out.

Nema

pre 4 godine

@All the Albo's

''But but but america is supposed to hold our hand and tell us that our dreams will become true!!'''

See you guys even manage the make supporting you hard for the people that really want to be your ally let alone people who are indifferent.

And where are all the albo's now when they where yelling about the demonstrations against vucic when the albo's are now throwing molotov coctails towards idi rama?

And albania the biggest supporter of albanians in kosovo is called the most corrupt country in europ by all european organisation... that you want to join... How?

vrata

pre 4 godine

Mr. Ambassador there is no Kosovo Albo qualified, or has the educational requirements to be in the Kosovo government, unfortunately you have failed to recognize this all this time. Kosovo is run by Albo terrorist, mafia, drug dealing thugs, thank former president Clinton for his help creating this mess!!

boro

pre 4 godine

Most of politicians in unlawfully self-proclaimed Kosovo state on territory of sovereign country of Serbia are convicted war criminals. The proofs are hidden or destroyed by them or their mentors.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

USA, EU along 102 countries that recognized kosovo *an illegal country created this MONSTER
consisting of war criminals.
A huge mistake to run before you can walk. The monster is full hands, not abiding by law nor any agreement. No respect for anyone, a law unto themselves.
Rep Serbia told you so. Late resident Tito, late Mr Milosevic had more than enogh of k albos. And now Mr Vucic.
Let serbian army go in and sort out. After all KiM is our.
Enogh of k albos spitting, laughing into the face of EU, Cefta, Nato, UN. Ridiculing ms mogerini and Mr Vucic.
Impose sanctions upon Kosovo *.
Stop sending aid that's spent on creation of illegal army, and purchase of amunition. Do ask yourself who is this monster kosovo*? So called sovreign, republic, democratic filled with war criminals.
Deeds not words.

LOL

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

LOL

Dude seriously, it's 2019, not 1999. All of Serbia's war criminals are either convicted, sentenced, serving, or have served. It's Kosovo* that the Ancillary US Ambassador to Serbia in the Pristina Office was referring to because only in Europe's Youngest Democracy can one find democratically elected war criminals who have escaped justice by murdering, threatening, or simply bribing their way to multiple mistrials. Everyone in Europe knows this, which is why no civilized state wants to grant you people visa-free access.

If you were referring to Kyle Scott's criticism of General Lazarevic, now there was a man who "served" his time. Albanians have yet TO serve time and do everything they can to scuttle the KLA War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. They'll tear gas parliament; they'll deflect attention though boycotts and taxation rates that hurt their own people; Hell, the Albanian war criminals will even call for the establishment of a war crimes tribunal for Serbs in Pristina. And if all else fails, they'll scurry under America's skirt hoping for protection and diplomatic immunity.

Common facts, bro. Get your trolling up a few notches. Your comment is amateur work at best :)

Max Otto

pre 4 godine

View from UK,
You seem to overlook the most likely scenario in the event of another Balkan War. Should, Serbia attack Kosovo, they will also be attacking NATO, as NATO is in Kosovo. That will be the biggest mistake that Serbia would make. The rest will be left for you to conclude.

Armand

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.

Now as far as being another armed conflict in the Balkans. I personally do not think that will happen. The U.S is involved and heavily invested in Kosovo. I am 100% aware they have their interests as any country does. Trepqa being one of them. Because when it is privatized i can assure you 100% that it will be a U.S company who gets the bid. Trepca has a value of 2 trillion dollars of minerals and the U.S will will for sure go to war for 2 trillion dollars we all know that. And we both are aware that if it came to a armed conflict Russia isnt even 5% of the capability of the U.S. There is too many factors to list here on how this would play out. But if Serbia and Russia thought that they could take Kosovo back through means of war i think they would have already done it.

I think what we should talk about is the displacement of Serbs in Kosovo after the war where their homes were taken and such as well as Albanians who deserve justice for their family being murdered and their homes being burned down. I think they deserve justice for that. In my opinion until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo and both sides agree to work with eachother none of those vicitms will ever get justice.

Watcher

pre 4 godine

, Kosova always takes these suggestion into consideration and acts accordingly.
(Time, 15 May 2019 13:40)

@ timeaj- of course, I would expect nothing less from “ Europe’s youngest democracy “, LOL

Come on, “ kosovaaaa”, show the civilized world you’re a beacon of light and hope for all who wish to steal a portion of somebody else’s land, put war criminals and terrorists in charge and call it a “ country”, 🤣 🤣

If it wasn’t so sad, it would be hilarious!

Navi

pre 4 godine

Kosovo's government is largely nothing *but* war criminals. Take away the war criminals and you have less than 20% of its elected officials.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@time
Excuse me. A person you represent and say he committed a minor crime. If he committed a minor crime he would not be sentenced to SIX YEARS in prison!
In any law SIX YEARS is the major crime.
Just to balance you steal a Mars bar and you are the criminal. It's minor crime but enough to make you unemployable.
I use to employ people and check past history and in uk we check references and ensure we do not employ anyone with criminal record even if they did steal just one mars bar they would have criminal record.
As for Kosovo *so called gov. I understand most are the criminals. You nerd to have people in gov. With clean plate, to be an example.

Watcherovic

pre 4 godine

(Watcher, 15 May 2019 14:24

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position. The reason Serbia gets so emotional when Serbia's US ambassador points out to Serbia's criminals is that Serbia knows that everyone in their government has a criminal history including mass killings and genocide and they are all wanted by International Criminal Court.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)

@ timeaj - funny how Albanian crimes are "minor", but in Serbian Government, EVERYBODY is a killers and ALL are murderers:)

HYPOCRITE to the core!

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Armand,

Thanks for probably the first very serious and honest Albanian opinion since years.

Obviously I do not agree with you 100% this time. 50% is probably enough for the start.

#1: Haradinaj is formally not a war criminal - but the large part of Albanian and the entire Serbian community believes, he is.
In such case a man of honor would quietly resign (under a condition that his past is being forgotten).

This is what I believe he should do. He did not.

The most horrible fate of such people (see Mira Markovic!) is to live under a quasi-house-arrest in Moscow, on the same street where some savage ex-dictators of minor African countries do.

This is the future I wish for Haradinaj. May Mira Markovic be his long-time neighbor, for the rest of their hopefully long life.

#2: Absolutely agree, but Saudi Arabia is even worse. Radical clerics (of any religion) have nothing to do with the religion. By the way, U.K., with their clerics from Pakistan is far worse than Kosovo. I have no connection to U.K. anymore and they are maybe out of EU soon (who knows?) - so it is not the problem #1. But still a problem.

#3: If you want to be independent - be my guest. If Pristina does not want to listen to Belgrade - be my guest. The problem is, that the K-Albanian nationalist agenda was financed by organized crime.
As long as Albanians do not clean up their own crime and corruption - not much sympathy from Serbia or Russia.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

>>1. Corrupt polticians
>>3. Serbia.

Armand,

We speak the same language.
The root cause of the problem is that a morally good thing (self-determination and independence of Albanian ethnic element) was financed by a totally evil thing: international organized crime.

As a result everything good was canceled out.

I have no idea, how to solve it. For geo - political reasons (to counter-balance Russia or China) the so-called "West" did side with the organized crime.

It is absolutely wrong, harmful for the entire community and won't last forever.

As said, no idea how to solve it. For sure, this situation will not only "conserve" warlords + corruption in Kosovo, but same unholy forces will be "conserved" in Serbia. See Vucic & Co.

I just hope at one point reason will prevail.

Ljiljana

pre 4 godine

@the truth
No one, but no one gets sentenced to
SIX YEARS IN PRISON FOR COMMITTING A MINOR CRIME!!!
He is convicted criminal. And after serving the sentence it stays with one for the rest of life.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

The person that the ambassador was talking about was charged for minor crimes and he has served his time. In Serbia's government it is a REQUIREMENT to be a criminal to be considered for any position.
(Time, 15 May 2019 15:35)
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Ok then, how many people in Serbian government have criminal records and who are they?
Where does it say it is a requirement? Aren't you telling porkies here?

Peggy

pre 4 godine

If one of the requirements is to have a qualification to govern, what exactly qualified Snake and Haradinaj? Which university have the got a degree from?

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Atarman and Armand......at last some serious debate on real issues. Many things I agree with but not all. Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere. But some are over the top.
I think the western powers certainly supported Kosovo ignoring international law, crimes by BOTH sides, etc. Haradinaj did get off twice for his crimes, but everyone knows that witnesses were terrified and some murdered or disappeared. So to say he is not guilty is a joke, and we all know it.
We have now hit a wall where a few powerful countries have dug in. The US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.

gelen

pre 4 godine

to: Time

What you are saying is massive lie and Albanian propaganda. It is obvious here that Albanian convicted war criminals are freely walking on streets of Pristina and running unlawfully self-proclaimed parliament, not even hiding from the Justice.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

Firstly lets be clear there is corruption everywhere...US supports Kosovo but China and Russia do not. Stalemate. Will Kosovo ever be a recognised country, not really sure. The US has a history of turning against the people they once supported. For sure the US can not make Russia & China recognise Kosovo. This will either stay a frozen conflict for a very long time, or there will be another armed conflict. I suspect it will only involve Albanians and Serbs, as the US will not go to arms and face Russia. Also the other way, Russia will not attack US forces for Serbia.
Ye, its a mess.
(VIEW FROM UK, 16 May 2019 14:07)

If corruption is everywhere then US support for Kosovo means that the US supports corruption. Since the same logic applies to China and Russia, therefore Chinese and Russian support for Serbia means Russia and China support corruption. Therefore, it is difficult to see how the US could be the most terrible country in the world (as has been your primary thesis since you began posting here), considering that they all are in the same boat. (Not that I agree but this is your logic.)

Perhaps this is where your "But some are over the top" qualification comes into play. I would say the murder of millions of helpless souls by Soviet and Chinese dictators would easily qualify. Although the Kosovo situation is irritating and frustrating, I don't think it can be compared to the ruthless killing of millions of helpless souls.

Armand

pre 4 godine

Peggy...

Life does not go the way you want it all the time. I want the Yankees to win the World Series every year but they don't win it do they??

Come back to reality. Just because things don't go in your favor it don't mean its not right.

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.

Armand

pre 4 godine

The statement the U.S Embassy put out is 100% correct. No one that is convicted of a war crime should hold office what so ever.

That is the biggest issue that Kosovo faces today. That's internal corruption that is ruining it with in.

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Im saying this as a Albanian. Corruption is our biggest enemy. While others see as Serbia being the biggest issue to Kosovo i see other wise. I see corruption as being the biggest and Serbia being after it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 06:04)

Absolutely agree, Armand.
My biggest personal problem is not Albanian, but US-Midwestern, Franco-Alemanian, Hungarian and Russian corruption.

If I would have nine lives like a cat, even one won't be enough to eliminate any of the above.

Sad to say, but for me the problem of the Serbian or Albanian corruption comes only when all the above are solved.

Good luck...

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

1. Corrupt polticians holding office even if they are convicted of a war crime or a corruption crime.

2. Islam. Turkey being the biggest threat culturally as they invest in projects and radical imams that target poor towns and pay them money to join groups like ISIS and such. These people should be jailed with no trial in my opinion and i blame the west for not letting the Kosovo government throwing them in jail and throwing out the key.

3. Serbia. For the fact that they know they have lost Kosovo but keep dragging a process thats already been opened and shut a long time ago and them blocking the proccess of them joining international organizations which they know in the end will not matter as the U.S gave the blessing to Kosovo to be independent and nothing is going to change that. Much as they hope for Russia to help them when in reality they can not do anything about it.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 10:25)

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?

Armand

pre 4 godine

I think these are fair points. But what about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation? When will the common people receive justice?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

You have to understand during the war many people lost homes on both sides. Albanians can bring up how many of their homes were burnt down by the Serb Military. These things will take a long time till they get resolved with the courts in both countries refusing to work with eachother to try to figure who got expelled from their homes and who needs to be paid for their home being burnt down. It is a very complex issue. Now we can agree to disagree and thats fine. But the frozen conflict you have going on right now is bad for both sides and victims from both sides. My opinion is until Serbia accepts the Independence of Kosovo no Serb will be able to get justice if they were wrongfully pushed out their homes and such. You need cooperation from both sides to make this work. Until then you will have these issues.

Jeremiah

pre 4 godine

If war criminals have a place in this government then perhaps we should be hoping for a better government:

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)

Peggy

pre 4 godine

View From UK.

Your opinion is that Haradinaj got off twice is a opinion and you have the right to have that. But the facts remain that he was proven not guilty by a international court two times.
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He was not proven not guilty. He wasn't proven guilty. That is a HUGE difference. The fact that all the witnessed came to an untimely death is just to be overlooked.

Peggy

pre 4 godine

This to me i think is the biggest issue with Serbia. Living a illusion and not accepting on whats happening in the real world. This is why you lost Kosovo. Before you respond to me. Go think about what your going to say real hard.
(Armand, 17 May 2019 07:52)
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I don't have to think hard to answer you.
First of all Kosovo is not lost and I have heard so many reason here why "we lost Kosovo".
Anything that comes up becomes a reason why we lost Kosovo.
So you can see, we don't give a damn what you think or care for any reasons you can come up with for Kosovo being temporarily run by the Mafia.

Al

pre 4 godine

War criminals or corrupt politicians is how the western world works. Truth and integrity is a sin. Double standards and bypassing law and order makes you a guardian angel.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about all the houses and land that Serbian citizens have lost to Albanian occupation?
(Jeremiah, 16 May 2019 13:48)

Jeremiah,

I believe that your question can be answered only by non-corrupt K-Albanian politicians.

So let them sort out first-most the corruption and crime. That will be very tough.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion.
I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization.
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

Every country and every military organization did a few evil things.

I was talking not about NATO / USA / Russia / Croatia (you name them) - but about suitcases full of D-Mark smuggled to Pristina by our usual suspects.

That money was "made" by illegal gambling, prostitution and drugs, by the very same usual suspects. And that was the money which created the KLA.

There is no judicial proof of course. But the entire Serbian community and a huge part of Albanian community believes, this is the truth.

Even if that would be incorrect, such accusations should encourage the involved "politicians" to retire voluntarily, in peace.

And we are back to the square one: if you finance your independence and freedom with such money, only corruption and even more crime will grow.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Now to say that the Independence was financed by terrorist organizations(NATO/U.S) is not correct in my opinion. I do not see NATO/U.S as a terrorist organization
(Armand, 16 May 2019 22:47)

I am not talking about USA or NATO. Your strong counter-argument should be probably something like:

"yes, but Arkan's money was also sourced from illegal gambling / prostitution / drugs / robberies".

That would be correct - but his "cause" pretty much died with him. Unfortunately that money is still all over Balkans.

I wonder, maybe some part of it is even shared with KLA.

After all, criminals do understand very well each other.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....you are right about the crimes committed by BOTH sides. I have said many times that a lot of Serbs deserve to be in jails now. However the other sides criminals appear to walk free. Operation storm in '95....nobody is guilty of this? Amazing. Nesar Oric walk free after murdering a few thousand civilians. How come? Many other examples but you get the point. Have not heard any Croat or Albanian or Bosnian muslim condemn these crimes. How come? It appears very one sided.
As for the US power I have to say you seriously underestimate Russia. 5% of US power?? The US will not go against Russia as we have seen in Syria, Ukraine and now Venezuela. Hell the Yanks wont take on N Korea due to them having nukes...
As for Trepca, yes its worth a lot. Is that the reason Americans got involved? You see, I think the US dont give a toss Serbs or Albanians. As for the future it looks bleak. I can not see Serbia recognising Kosovo. They have too much support around the world, and some big players amongst them. It could go to war again and I do not think the big forces will get involved. They wont risk a mega conflict for the sake of Serbs or Albanians. It could be just the Albanians and Serbs fighting it out.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 4 godine

Armand....to finish from my last point...you say Albanians have been calling for independence well before the start of the troubles in the early '90s. That is true. So, the KLA was planned and financed well before the Serbian forces went in. You have to admit the KLA started the conflict. They then played the victim. But good lobbying and paying the likes of Bob Dole got Albanians support. The point is that this was planned decades ago, to rip Kosovo from Serbia, right? And now we see Albanians blame Serbia for starting a war..!?? Smoke and mirrors sprinkled with lies such as Racak (which the Hague will not touch because it was a hoax and set up). As for US policies of invasions, war, etc around the world you say its a force for good? Thats amazing. Please dont say that to Iraqis, Libyans, Afghans, most of central and S Americas, Vietnamese, etc, etc.