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Thursday, 11.04.2019.

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Vucic, Thaci expect nothing; meeting may have different goal

Another motive may be hiding behind the German-French invitation to Serb and Albanian leaders to gather in Berlin under the slogan of cooperation in the region.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

chi, the brotherly relationship between russia and serbia is mostly on paper, via politics. nothing of real substance to speak of. i would even say serbia's relationship with russia has been more of a boot licking process than that of Albanians and America.

LOL

pre 5 godina

These Europeans simply will never learn.

If you are going to implement a problematic Republika Srpska in northern Kosovo, you have essentially partitioned the country. Only difference is you will be causing long term problems for the state, like we see in BiH.

If that is going to be the case, the best thing would be partition. Kosovo can carry on trying to be a proper country before it just gives in and joins Albania, and Serbs in the north can get a better deal under Serbia.

Why are Germany and France hellbent on causing long term problems, and continued grievance for Kosovo's citizens? If the status quo isn't working, and bare in mind northern Kosovo already acts like a mini RS, then try something else - no matter how awkward, in this case PARTITION. I am surprised Kosovo Albanians and Serbs are not tired of all these experiments and just come out and accept what will definitely sort out their biggest problem - living together.

The EU will never sort out the Balkans. It has no patience nor experience, it simply brushes things under the carpet a la Bosnia.

Chi

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.
(Dardania'Alb, 12 April 2019 02:11

Dard, it's actually a Nikon copier, but we'll leave this for another time. I'll agree that Russia's presence has something to do with curtailing NATO's aggression in Europe; however, we have had brotherly relationship with them for over 700 years - whereas, you've had relationship with the Dark Star (US) for only 20 years, and that's only because they needed a pawn in the Balkans. The Russians understand why we can't recognize Crimea,because they used the KiM precedent to take the Crimea - same as Israel and Palestine not recognizing KiM.

EU Dude

pre 5 godina

"...In return, an entity with a similar status to the Serb Republic in Bosnia-Herzegovina would be formed in northern Kosovo,"
-

More promises that Paris & Berlin will make little or no effort to keep, let alone pressure Pristina to accept and IMPLEMENT.

It's just the same old BS over and over again. Belgrade should either sit out this meeting or just not agree to anything.

Paris/Berlin only then have threats to make which would look very bad to Serb citizens.

Time is on Serbia's side so there is no hurry at all. Just keep working on the de-recognitions and don't sign anything.

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Just got a n important confirmation, the meeting will be
About 100%taxes being removed about k Muslims not respecting
The CEFTA AGREEMENT.
Amongst other things.
And huge welcome back to Chi.our
reinforcement.
Some were in your absence counting days. You devil,you are the part timer only.

Nema

pre 5 godina

@all

Maybe the albanians will not even be able to come as The Netherlands are going to lobby to reintroduce the requirement of a Visa for albanians.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2280057-kamermeerderheid-regel-herinvoering-visumplicht-voor-albanezen.html --> you can translate it in google chrome (ps before the albanians get angry, this is the official goverment news site and not some kind of tabbloid).

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.

Chi

pre 5 godina

I'm sure you Albos missed me, sorry I was gone so long - us Serbs have these things called JOBS, and they sometimes get in the away of life.

The thing I can't get mu hands around is Edi Rama participating in the meeting. What the hell?!? I think maybe Putin or Lavrov should be there as well if this is the case. Traditionally, the Albanians can't do anything without help from the outside or hiding under puppet masters skirts, but this seems a little over the top. Why wasn't the Serbian contingent up in arms over this?!?!

Avni

pre 5 godina

Haradinaj: Nije taksa to zbog čega Vučić ne seda za sto https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=11&nav_category=640&nav_id=1528743

Haradinaj poručio Vučiću: Nema pomirenja bez priznanja istine o prošlosti http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/politika/aktuelno.289.html:788517-HARADINAJ-PORUCIO-VUCICU-Nema-pomirenja-bez-priznanja-istine-o-proslosti

Delius

pre 5 godina

A so-called view from UK or poor Vucic propaganda with artificial tears:

„So much nonsence
only a young child
Mr Vucic realises better than you and I
an amazing statement
Albos "platform" just a wish list.
Albos in Kosovo
Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian to daylight robbery....stealing
half the world realises this crooked tactic
Marco mafia state of Kosovo
dont count your chickens.....“

LOL

pre 5 godina

Hmmm....

Force Serbia to negotiate with people who are already condemned by the EU for imposing taxes?

In return for what? A truncated RS in Kosovo without the other six municipalities along for the executive autonomy?

If even the Albanians think it will be a waste of time, then this really is a waste of time! :)

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Delius....what on earth are you talking about...??
So much nonsence in your post that only a young child may believe.
I'm sure Mr Vucic realises the EU position better than you and I.
As for conditions by Serbia....this is an amazing statement. Did not Albos break every agreement they ever signed?? For example, res 1244, Cefta/taxes, formation of so called army, Brussels agreement, etc. And they have the cheek to come up with a "platform" for talks that is nothing short of an ultimatum. In other words its just a wish list.
But lets look at it another way. Albos in Kosovo have proved that starting an armed conflict can work. Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian??), but by lobbying America and promising them anything and everything may lead to daylight robbery....stealing land.
However about half the world realises this crooked tactic and they will not recognise the narco mafia state of Kosovo. And 2 of the 3 superpowers will not have it. You seem so cock sure of Albanian position but dont count your chickens.....

Delius

pre 5 godina

There is no country like Serbia going as sheep to any meeting of the butchers. First announcing a parade and stop it after NATO demands, putting conditions for the further negotiaton process with Prishtina and to announce talks in Berlin, getting the clear message from France about no way to become an EU member in 2025 but going to Berlin, seeing Kosovo as part of Serbia and having official talks about this case with Albania. This are only a few points from the never ending story to make big noice and producing only hot air in Belgrade. Vucic is speaking with all NATO ambassadors but Trump or Merkel would never speak with a Serbian ambassador. And at the end Serbia appointed its new ambassador to Russia, somebody with no diplomatic experience but as war correspondent. A terrible message and a totally unclear biography, Serbia today.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Delius....what on earth are you talking about...??
So much nonsence in your post that only a young child may believe.
I'm sure Mr Vucic realises the EU position better than you and I.
As for conditions by Serbia....this is an amazing statement. Did not Albos break every agreement they ever signed?? For example, res 1244, Cefta/taxes, formation of so called army, Brussels agreement, etc. And they have the cheek to come up with a "platform" for talks that is nothing short of an ultimatum. In other words its just a wish list.
But lets look at it another way. Albos in Kosovo have proved that starting an armed conflict can work. Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian??), but by lobbying America and promising them anything and everything may lead to daylight robbery....stealing land.
However about half the world realises this crooked tactic and they will not recognise the narco mafia state of Kosovo. And 2 of the 3 superpowers will not have it. You seem so cock sure of Albanian position but dont count your chickens.....

Delius

pre 5 godina

There is no country like Serbia going as sheep to any meeting of the butchers. First announcing a parade and stop it after NATO demands, putting conditions for the further negotiaton process with Prishtina and to announce talks in Berlin, getting the clear message from France about no way to become an EU member in 2025 but going to Berlin, seeing Kosovo as part of Serbia and having official talks about this case with Albania. This are only a few points from the never ending story to make big noice and producing only hot air in Belgrade. Vucic is speaking with all NATO ambassadors but Trump or Merkel would never speak with a Serbian ambassador. And at the end Serbia appointed its new ambassador to Russia, somebody with no diplomatic experience but as war correspondent. A terrible message and a totally unclear biography, Serbia today.

LOL

pre 5 godina

Hmmm....

Force Serbia to negotiate with people who are already condemned by the EU for imposing taxes?

In return for what? A truncated RS in Kosovo without the other six municipalities along for the executive autonomy?

If even the Albanians think it will be a waste of time, then this really is a waste of time! :)

Chi

pre 5 godina

I'm sure you Albos missed me, sorry I was gone so long - us Serbs have these things called JOBS, and they sometimes get in the away of life.

The thing I can't get mu hands around is Edi Rama participating in the meeting. What the hell?!? I think maybe Putin or Lavrov should be there as well if this is the case. Traditionally, the Albanians can't do anything without help from the outside or hiding under puppet masters skirts, but this seems a little over the top. Why wasn't the Serbian contingent up in arms over this?!?!

EU Dude

pre 5 godina

"...In return, an entity with a similar status to the Serb Republic in Bosnia-Herzegovina would be formed in northern Kosovo,"
-

More promises that Paris & Berlin will make little or no effort to keep, let alone pressure Pristina to accept and IMPLEMENT.

It's just the same old BS over and over again. Belgrade should either sit out this meeting or just not agree to anything.

Paris/Berlin only then have threats to make which would look very bad to Serb citizens.

Time is on Serbia's side so there is no hurry at all. Just keep working on the de-recognitions and don't sign anything.

Nema

pre 5 godina

@all

Maybe the albanians will not even be able to come as The Netherlands are going to lobby to reintroduce the requirement of a Visa for albanians.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2280057-kamermeerderheid-regel-herinvoering-visumplicht-voor-albanezen.html --> you can translate it in google chrome (ps before the albanians get angry, this is the official goverment news site and not some kind of tabbloid).

Chi

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.
(Dardania'Alb, 12 April 2019 02:11

Dard, it's actually a Nikon copier, but we'll leave this for another time. I'll agree that Russia's presence has something to do with curtailing NATO's aggression in Europe; however, we have had brotherly relationship with them for over 700 years - whereas, you've had relationship with the Dark Star (US) for only 20 years, and that's only because they needed a pawn in the Balkans. The Russians understand why we can't recognize Crimea,because they used the KiM precedent to take the Crimea - same as Israel and Palestine not recognizing KiM.

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Just got a n important confirmation, the meeting will be
About 100%taxes being removed about k Muslims not respecting
The CEFTA AGREEMENT.
Amongst other things.
And huge welcome back to Chi.our
reinforcement.
Some were in your absence counting days. You devil,you are the part timer only.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.

LOL

pre 5 godina

These Europeans simply will never learn.

If you are going to implement a problematic Republika Srpska in northern Kosovo, you have essentially partitioned the country. Only difference is you will be causing long term problems for the state, like we see in BiH.

If that is going to be the case, the best thing would be partition. Kosovo can carry on trying to be a proper country before it just gives in and joins Albania, and Serbs in the north can get a better deal under Serbia.

Why are Germany and France hellbent on causing long term problems, and continued grievance for Kosovo's citizens? If the status quo isn't working, and bare in mind northern Kosovo already acts like a mini RS, then try something else - no matter how awkward, in this case PARTITION. I am surprised Kosovo Albanians and Serbs are not tired of all these experiments and just come out and accept what will definitely sort out their biggest problem - living together.

The EU will never sort out the Balkans. It has no patience nor experience, it simply brushes things under the carpet a la Bosnia.

Delius

pre 5 godina

A so-called view from UK or poor Vucic propaganda with artificial tears:

„So much nonsence
only a young child
Mr Vucic realises better than you and I
an amazing statement
Albos "platform" just a wish list.
Albos in Kosovo
Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian to daylight robbery....stealing
half the world realises this crooked tactic
Marco mafia state of Kosovo
dont count your chickens.....“

Avni

pre 5 godina

Haradinaj: Nije taksa to zbog čega Vučić ne seda za sto https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=11&nav_category=640&nav_id=1528743

Haradinaj poručio Vučiću: Nema pomirenja bez priznanja istine o prošlosti http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/politika/aktuelno.289.html:788517-HARADINAJ-PORUCIO-VUCICU-Nema-pomirenja-bez-priznanja-istine-o-proslosti

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

chi, the brotherly relationship between russia and serbia is mostly on paper, via politics. nothing of real substance to speak of. i would even say serbia's relationship with russia has been more of a boot licking process than that of Albanians and America.

Delius

pre 5 godina

There is no country like Serbia going as sheep to any meeting of the butchers. First announcing a parade and stop it after NATO demands, putting conditions for the further negotiaton process with Prishtina and to announce talks in Berlin, getting the clear message from France about no way to become an EU member in 2025 but going to Berlin, seeing Kosovo as part of Serbia and having official talks about this case with Albania. This are only a few points from the never ending story to make big noice and producing only hot air in Belgrade. Vucic is speaking with all NATO ambassadors but Trump or Merkel would never speak with a Serbian ambassador. And at the end Serbia appointed its new ambassador to Russia, somebody with no diplomatic experience but as war correspondent. A terrible message and a totally unclear biography, Serbia today.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Delius....what on earth are you talking about...??
So much nonsence in your post that only a young child may believe.
I'm sure Mr Vucic realises the EU position better than you and I.
As for conditions by Serbia....this is an amazing statement. Did not Albos break every agreement they ever signed?? For example, res 1244, Cefta/taxes, formation of so called army, Brussels agreement, etc. And they have the cheek to come up with a "platform" for talks that is nothing short of an ultimatum. In other words its just a wish list.
But lets look at it another way. Albos in Kosovo have proved that starting an armed conflict can work. Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian??), but by lobbying America and promising them anything and everything may lead to daylight robbery....stealing land.
However about half the world realises this crooked tactic and they will not recognise the narco mafia state of Kosovo. And 2 of the 3 superpowers will not have it. You seem so cock sure of Albanian position but dont count your chickens.....

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.

Avni

pre 5 godina

Haradinaj: Nije taksa to zbog čega Vučić ne seda za sto https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=04&dd=11&nav_category=640&nav_id=1528743

Haradinaj poručio Vučiću: Nema pomirenja bez priznanja istine o prošlosti http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/politika/aktuelno.289.html:788517-HARADINAJ-PORUCIO-VUCICU-Nema-pomirenja-bez-priznanja-istine-o-proslosti

Delius

pre 5 godina

A so-called view from UK or poor Vucic propaganda with artificial tears:

„So much nonsence
only a young child
Mr Vucic realises better than you and I
an amazing statement
Albos "platform" just a wish list.
Albos in Kosovo
Kosovo was always Serbian (when was it Albanian to daylight robbery....stealing
half the world realises this crooked tactic
Marco mafia state of Kosovo
dont count your chickens.....“

Chi

pre 5 godina

I'm sure you Albos missed me, sorry I was gone so long - us Serbs have these things called JOBS, and they sometimes get in the away of life.

The thing I can't get mu hands around is Edi Rama participating in the meeting. What the hell?!? I think maybe Putin or Lavrov should be there as well if this is the case. Traditionally, the Albanians can't do anything without help from the outside or hiding under puppet masters skirts, but this seems a little over the top. Why wasn't the Serbian contingent up in arms over this?!?!

LOL

pre 5 godina

Hmmm....

Force Serbia to negotiate with people who are already condemned by the EU for imposing taxes?

In return for what? A truncated RS in Kosovo without the other six municipalities along for the executive autonomy?

If even the Albanians think it will be a waste of time, then this really is a waste of time! :)

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Just got a n important confirmation, the meeting will be
About 100%taxes being removed about k Muslims not respecting
The CEFTA AGREEMENT.
Amongst other things.
And huge welcome back to Chi.our
reinforcement.
Some were in your absence counting days. You devil,you are the part timer only.

Chi

pre 5 godina

@chi, congratulations, you worked (if xeroxing your behind can be considered as work) for 4 and a half days... i'm sure we are all looking forward to your troll presence here then for the next month straight...
now, as for russia, it's obvious they openly support serbia on the kosova issue. But it's also obvious that this support is mostly based on putin's attempt to undermine NATO, and not because they actually care about serbia's future without putin. there are telling signs that russia's stance with serbia is becoming lax..seeing that serbia won't even recognize crimea as an integral part of russia, while russia goes up to bat for preserving serbia's supposed territorial integrity. and remember putin even stuck his neck out for serbia by vetoing the resolution on calling the conflict in Bosnia a genocide. i suspect Serbs will be paying the price of that favor for a long time.
(Dardania'Alb, 12 April 2019 02:11

Dard, it's actually a Nikon copier, but we'll leave this for another time. I'll agree that Russia's presence has something to do with curtailing NATO's aggression in Europe; however, we have had brotherly relationship with them for over 700 years - whereas, you've had relationship with the Dark Star (US) for only 20 years, and that's only because they needed a pawn in the Balkans. The Russians understand why we can't recognize Crimea,because they used the KiM precedent to take the Crimea - same as Israel and Palestine not recognizing KiM.

Nema

pre 5 godina

@all

Maybe the albanians will not even be able to come as The Netherlands are going to lobby to reintroduce the requirement of a Visa for albanians.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2280057-kamermeerderheid-regel-herinvoering-visumplicht-voor-albanezen.html --> you can translate it in google chrome (ps before the albanians get angry, this is the official goverment news site and not some kind of tabbloid).

EU Dude

pre 5 godina

"...In return, an entity with a similar status to the Serb Republic in Bosnia-Herzegovina would be formed in northern Kosovo,"
-

More promises that Paris & Berlin will make little or no effort to keep, let alone pressure Pristina to accept and IMPLEMENT.

It's just the same old BS over and over again. Belgrade should either sit out this meeting or just not agree to anything.

Paris/Berlin only then have threats to make which would look very bad to Serb citizens.

Time is on Serbia's side so there is no hurry at all. Just keep working on the de-recognitions and don't sign anything.

LOL

pre 5 godina

These Europeans simply will never learn.

If you are going to implement a problematic Republika Srpska in northern Kosovo, you have essentially partitioned the country. Only difference is you will be causing long term problems for the state, like we see in BiH.

If that is going to be the case, the best thing would be partition. Kosovo can carry on trying to be a proper country before it just gives in and joins Albania, and Serbs in the north can get a better deal under Serbia.

Why are Germany and France hellbent on causing long term problems, and continued grievance for Kosovo's citizens? If the status quo isn't working, and bare in mind northern Kosovo already acts like a mini RS, then try something else - no matter how awkward, in this case PARTITION. I am surprised Kosovo Albanians and Serbs are not tired of all these experiments and just come out and accept what will definitely sort out their biggest problem - living together.

The EU will never sort out the Balkans. It has no patience nor experience, it simply brushes things under the carpet a la Bosnia.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

chi, the brotherly relationship between russia and serbia is mostly on paper, via politics. nothing of real substance to speak of. i would even say serbia's relationship with russia has been more of a boot licking process than that of Albanians and America.