Friday, 15.03.2019.
09:48
At least 49 people have been killed and about 20 wounded in the shootings that took place in two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.
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peggy, please stop lying to yourself. islam and christianity were both born out of violence. the bible and the quran both promote pedophilia, genocide, rape, murder, and slavery. islam and christianity were both created in the middle east from the same abrahamic ideology.
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The names of those in hos guns specially the national hero of all Albanian GJERGJ KASTRIOTI “ skenderbe”
Has not kill otomans becouse they were muslims or whatever religion he has killed because his nation was occupied and killed from otomans .
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
YES, many verses do.
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
NO, there is nothing in the doctrine which does that. If you can find it, show it.
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
NO, nothing in the Bible promoting that. If you can find it, show it.
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
Have you see this:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/nigeria-muslims-murder-another-10-christians-bringing-death-toll-to-140-since-february-10
Take your own advice.
(Azir, 18 March 2019 16:28)
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
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I have seen some pages of his manifesto and he clearly states that he is not a Christian (meaning he doesn't practice) he is neither left nor right as it all depends on how you define it. These are his words.
He doesn't hate Muslims but thinks he is defending west from Islam because of the high birth rate. This is what is in his manifesto.
Media has jumped all over this and have left things out and made things up because western media is very much in bed with Islam and protects it very well.
Do you know that here in Australia we are gagged? We can't even debate openly about Islam for fear of being labelled racist and losing our jobs?
This atmosphere will bring out the worst in us and the frustration rises to the very top.
People are fed up, scared and told to shut up or be called racist of Nazi. The left has taken over and any common sense is thrown out. Any politician who wants to bring this debate out is shouted at and called racist and extreme right wing.
So no, I don't think he is a fundamentalist but an extremely frustrated, angry man who has done this horrible thing.
It's made things a lot worse now as people are even more divided.
When you can't debate a very important subject like why are we importing more trouble then we are going to get this.
Did you know that two of the worshipers of that mosque are jihadists who trained Charlie Hedbo terrorists and that is where they got radicalized?
This is so much bigger than just plain fundamentalist act.
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Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 19:21)
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I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around but in this particular case I blame the government, first and foremost.
When you take people's ability to discuss openly without fear of reprisal the subject such as Islam you are going to end up with violence.
We here are gagged to the point of fearing for our jobs if we dare say anything negative about Islam which we know has been responsible for many terrorist attacks including Australia.
This horror was born of that. Frustration and inability to talk openly pushes everything underground where it festers.
Islam is the only religion we are not allowed to criticise. People have been taken to court over their words and they weren't even bad, just plain criticism of Islam. People have lost their jobs.
All this while Muslims march on with their hateful signs and kill us on our streets and in cafes.
Like I said before, take away people's right to discuss this and you will drive in underground and to violence.
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The perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni. A special mention must also go to the fake Italian Albo who continues to post things only he understands.
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Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
If you only knew the money that went into trying to keep Yugoslvaia together. Serbia alone will continue to pay its allotted portion of those loans until 2035. Others vary with some paying up to 2070.
If Yugoslavia could not be kept together and it’s a small entity to what you are suggesting, then what are the chances of this new confederation staying afloat? Not much. It’s a fairy-tale suggestion Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha that were sold on Communism solving all problems.
There are too many conflicting interests in this pot and when that happens at first opportunity it will dissolve. Bury the idea of Yugoslavia or enlarging it once and for all.
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No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
For the Balkans to truly prosper , this is the only solution. Bulgaria has been part of the EU for a long time and progress has been stalled. Greece should also be part of these nation states as well as Croatia and Slovenia. Romania would be much more difficult to convince. However for this to happen, you need vision and leadership, unfortunately none of these countries are producing leaders with that vision. Vucic is probably the most flexible of all the current leaders but even he has limits. When you see Kosovo breaking the CEFTA , how are the going to uphold the laws in a loose confederation.
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Chi: "Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community?"
Here, this will explain it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX17oIPKubA
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions.
(WestSwan, 16 March 2019 14:11)
According some respected media in UK, he was a nice kid who struggled horribly in the school. His father died because of asbestos poisoning.
They were close to the bottom of the society.
The most despicable, terrorist acts of war were committed by Hungarian servicemen in Ukraine and Serbia. Who grew up under similar circumstances.
Responsible is the perpetrator, the circumstances and the officers (or the propaganda).
Imprisoning the perpetrator for life (or executing him) is only half of the solution.
I hope, you agree, that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo, the usual blah blah and sliced bread with Nutella is a cheap propaganda. And has nothing to do with this tragedy.
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
(Sam, 16 March 2019 04:55)
That can't be ashamed when they have no shame to begin with. They've been given clear evidence that this guy was an Austrialian national of British ethnicity who was inspired by a slew of right-wing propaganda from the internet of which ONE ELEMENT is related to Serbia, and yet and these idiots jump all over it as if that was the catalyst that pushed him to murder.
These people are as delusional as they're perpetually ignorant and perpetually racist, which only furthers the understanding that they're widely despised throughout Europe by anyone who is unfortunate enough to have come into contact with a group of them and their demented mentality. Of course they're going to grasp at gaining political points from a tragedy. It's what they do. They've been trying to turn everything into a human rights sob story about their miserable existence for more than a century. These people believe the world revolves around their Third World family compounds because they honestly believe they've contributed to every element of Western civilization. They'd be annoying if they weren't so ridiculously and predictably hilarious.
If B92 wants to post their span comments, we might has well laugh at them. It's good for the internet traffic.
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"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
(Zoran, 15 March 2019 13:18)
No no no, Zoran, don't you know? This guy had a Serbian song on his playlist in the car, so he's clearly Serbian. He's just lying that he's Scottish, Irish and English to protect his real identity. He's delusional, the New Zealand press is wrong, the Australian government is wrong. The only people who really know the truth is homo albanicus. They may only be partially housebroken and their break smells like shoe polish from all the American boots they've licked, but they are the only source of truth in the world. If some semi-literate Albanian troll on an English language version of a Serbian news portal says he was Serb and was driven by Serbian nationalism, which was responsible for killing upwards of 150 million Albanians in 1999 alone, then it must be true. Ricky, Willi, and the 50 different aliases of Azir wouldn't never steer us wrong :)
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
(Chi, 16 March 2019 14:58)
https://youtu.be/T6jBmaYrt1g
LMMFAO, Who you trying to fool lil Chi, Chi ? The civilized world knows you Radical-Misfits back in Serbia are of the most degraded & degenerate stock found on planet earth!
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When reading all Albanian comments, the only thing that appears is that the killer was something like a Serb. The primitive propaganda.If there is to be a comparison , then let us look what those "innocent" Albanians are doing to Serbs every day, and how far they go in their primitive behavior. Why they do not show what they wrote on their UCK flags or on Serbian Christian churches.The Scottish who killed 49 person is a terrorist, andhas nothing to do with Serbs. So, primitive and brain washed Albanians you should better sweap in front of your door step.
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chi, ask them
https://youtu.be/gMeW360flq8
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@serbianmasterrace, don't you think it's a bit ironic you would use such a name for public use, considering that Europeans/Germans gave serbs the label of being untermensch easterner criminals and invaders?
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First of all, the perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his website/facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni.
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@Chi
Why don’t you ask your Slavic Bosniak brothers and sisters, they are the ones joining terror groups in the thousands and had Islamists fight for them in the 90’s. Albanians don’t go around blowing up buildings and innocent people for imaginary sky G0ds.
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BTW, Sken, re-Kim Irsen.
I put a very cute joke here about the grandson of Kim Irsen, traveling through a fine Ukrainian city of Чоп. But B92 decided to censor it.
B92, you take away all the salt from my food!
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 05:54)
Sken,
Yes. And the lover of Mayakovski was the husband of his girlfriend.
I am not on drugs.
And Stalin was probably a double-agent, working for both "Okhranka" (the Segurimi of Tsar) and the Communists.
I am still not on drugs.
All this is now all over Wiki and about gazillion Russian sources.
Turns out, they were real people.
In addition to that, Stalin was a real S.O.B. comparable to Hitler only. And Enver Hoxha, Mao Zedong or Kim Irsen are nothing compared to Stalin.
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
(SerbianMasterRace, 16 March 2019 13:39)
The Master Race whose sons and daughters were given over 1000 years of prison time by the Westerners for the Masters Race's contribution to inhumanity. Yep, the Master Race!
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@Chi Chi nice trolling
When I was a kid I used to say chi chi when I had the need to go to the washroom
LOL just LOL
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@ Peggy You know I always respect your opinions and I also like your sense of humour. Sometime I read comments when its too late to reply so sorry if I ever didnt reply to you. I wrote "christians" because these type of mentally sick people apparently identify themselves with "christian" values. But no wonder here, nazis and fashists were all "christians" at the same degree. Speaking of islamic terrorism, you know I've been very hard on our local religious terrorists. I've also called upon Kosovo's police to put under surveillance all imams who dont openly dissociate themselves from albanian terrorists who joined Isis. Our muslim community is at the forefront of the fight against religious extremism. Isis is killing more muslims than christians Peggy. Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
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@ Ataman Kind words, spasiba bro. Its true though, Stalin killed the idea of balcanic federation cuz he saw in it, upon suggestions from Hoxha, a kind of threat to the indipindinciii and fridom of Albania and Bulgaria. Of course Stalin was afraid Tito would have dragged the two idiots in his original "neutrality" area out of the warsaw pact. How to blame Stalin on this? Hoxha on the other hand understood that in a new federation he personally had no chances to survive politically and Tito was just waiting for the moment to force him out of power.
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Maybe they can drop that guy with a parachute over some islamist area.
He is the same shit like any other terrorist/murderer/hate spreading person.
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Some* of you Albanians are just sick. You use a tragedy like this to spew hate speech against Serbs? Honestly?
Peter Rocky Mountains you're a new level of low human.
Try to use your brain and think that Serbs have been murdered by your people too inside Serbia! Serbs were murdered in Bosnia too.
Can you not even read this news and think about the people that have been shot dead and their families instead of politicizing it with your hate speech. Honestly makes me sick.
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions. He went back into history and lost himself in it which is what is happening in the Balkins. Let's shake hands and forget the past. The future is for our children to live in peace. Cheers.
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
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Now listen to me very carefully guest. You're a guest, I am Skenderbeu, history comes with me. After me to be more precise. In the sense that I've already debunked your false narrative on Empire's deeds and misdeeds, in my conversations with my friends here. Its another level of intellectual thriving, the one you'll never experience Im afraid. So simply put, I think you have an extremely bored and somehow dangerous mind and a very distorted personality. Its like writing to Breivik. So you'll understand if this weekend I will read more on Joseph Stalin, waiting for Ataman to provide any online sources for his claims.
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What to do with Guest what to do with Guest? Ask B92 to practise their declared komitment to hold a civilized level of dialogue and censor this who doesnt know the history of his own land or be grateful to B92 for not having him censored because there can't be a better example of the dangerous effects of the mix of ignorance, racism, religious extremism than the comment of the only vile scum on this website and thats you Guest?
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
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You vile scum.
(Guest, 15 March 2019 19:40)
Хашиш Хаджигуестаjовић,
Sken is 100% Albanian, with 100% unusual views and he has 100% gentle soul. I don't care about him supporting that Chief Ayatollah Erdogan or Grand Tsar Putin.
He demonstrated strong, but the same time gentle character on B92.
You did not.
I did say everything with that, feel free to relax a bit and think a bit.
Thank you.
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
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IDK why albanians are talking about serbs when this guy was obviously delusional but let's talk about all the albanians that are part of isis and killing innocent people everyday and allowing terrorism to flow into Europe you people are sick
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@Chi Chi its important to distinguish that the tragedy took place in New Zealand not Australia as you said
The lunatic who committed this crime is Australian which you got mixed up on.
Condolences to the family of the victims.
Skanderbeg was written on top side of his rifle and I condemn the misuse of our national hero's name by radical extremist terrorists.
Also to those who claim Skanderbeg as a serb.... His mother is Slavic so what? He father was an Albanian Prince and it was normal at that time to marry princesses from neighboring dynasties for alliances.
That makes him mixed blood and he kicked ottomans *** with no outside support for consecutive 25 years.
What were the serbs doing at that time? ohhh thats right instead of joining Skanderbeg in fighting the turks.... The Brankovic's were paying tribute to and sending their princesses to sultans harem.
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... I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
You better be happy for not being invoiced for back-to-reality services you get from your good Albanian neighbours! Consider yourself lucky.
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
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He didn't do this for Christianity. He did this for everyone except Islam.
This was more of frustration and fight back then fundamentalism. What he did was born or years of Al Quaeda, ISIS, JI etc killing Christians around the world and migrating to Christian lands to kill. He would never have gone and done this if Islam wasn't systematically eradicating the Christians.
I certainly don't agree with what he did and find that his actions have damaged any reaching out to Muslims but I don't think it was fundamentalism but extreme frustration, feeling of helplessness in protecting western countries and trying to force a resolution.
Fundamentalists are people who are so blinded by their own to the point of hatred of anything else. This was not the case. He didn't hate everything else. He was specific about going after one one ideology.
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Wtf is going on here ?
(Gjergj Arianiti, 15 March 2019 17:36)
Over-sized egos in overdrive.
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We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
Yes, but what to do with the people? Say, we put the cowboys in the jail. How about the politicians in Belgrade? Except very few they are no more and no less, than mirror images of these "cowboys".
Than few years later elections. How would you make residents of Pristina interested whom they should elect in Belgrade?
Russia had a solution for a similar situation in Chechnya: make a deal with a local overlord and simply pay him off.
Sure, finding a "proper" ex-henchman and turn him 180 degrees is never a problem. Whom would you pay off in Kosovo?
Than there is that Kurti who would be just a pain in the @ss. Currently he is playing a populist game, he will be super-happy.
Your only feasible solution: silence him (you-know-how).
Than you are at the square one, like 30 years ago. Except that you have your very own henchman in Pristina who is ready to blackmail you or sell you anytime.
No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
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Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 20:30) Who said any one of them were "Christians". Also Joseph Stalin was studying to be a Orthodox Priest not a Roman Catholic Jesuit. Until he made a career change which prepared him so well to be a murderous criminal psychopath.
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Serb inspired hate speech inciting half-wits worldwide, and causing bloodshed as it did in the Balkans.
Whites/Europeans are not native to Australia; they took that land from the Aborigines, who they pretty much exterminated. Much the same as what the Serbs did to the native people of the Balkans, the Illyrians.
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Ari Gold
Gjergj Kastrioti was Albanian. He was the son of the Albanian Prince Gjon Kastrioti. Their origins were from Mat Albania. You serbs have no history yourselves so you steal from others. Pathetic. Must hurt that every historian on this earth agrees that Skanderbeg was Albanian. Even russian historians agree he was Albanian.
"Lord of Albania"
That was his title and the people who he fought for were Albanians. His people. His blood. His home
If i remember it right he disliked the serbs and saw them as untrustworthy as allies against the Ottoman Turks. He send his men to burn all serbian villages and kill all the serbs as a punishment for their untrustworthiness. So much for him being a "serb" HA! Hilarious!
It's all written in history. Something you can't change.
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ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!
WAKE UP People of the earth who’s understanding is changing and in the 21 century in the time of information and knowledge and connection the TRUTH stands firm . Our sky has changed our understanding and our souls know more than what we see here .
You that speak the serbian language and Albanian language WAKE UP free from judging free from religion control and free from dogma our GOD has given LIFE in a form of baby to all the souls of the earth GOD has given LIFE . Which fool stands in his name and take that precious gift that GOD has to all your souls of eternity stop polluting your mind and the mind of thousands new souls to come to LIVE the free LiFE .
As I read through your comments my heart crys for the stupidity of our nature .
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I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
(Avni, 15 March 2019 18:52)
Yes, but your fellow Albanians here are desperately trying to argue that the terrorist was either a Serb, a Serb nationalist, or someone inspired by Serbian nationalism because he was listening to a Serbian song from the 1990s the Internet made viral and that he had the name of at least one Serbian figure on one of his guns. He himself said he was motivated and inspired by Trump. Not my fault and not Serbia's fault extremists sympathize with Serbia's plight from the 1990s. It's not like Serbia was supporting or instigating any of this violence. You and other Albanians are trying to make a point when there never was one.
He did however link Albanians to ISIS because so many of them joined their ranks. Maybe the bigger threat today isn't Serbian extremism but Albanian.
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
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Hold your horses Albanians. Turns out, the shooter had none other than Skanderbeg on his gun as well. Obviously, we all know Skanderbeg was actually Serbian himself. But which one is it? If you believe that Serbian nationalist ideology is to blame for this lunatic in New Zealand, then are you admitting Skanderbeg is also Serbian?
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@Skenderbeu 1444
No self respecting Albanian would make the same comments you made. The Muslim Turks, butchered our men, enslaved our women and kidnapped our children for centuries. They taxed us to death until we converted to Islam. Every other ethnic group was allowed to practise their own customs and learn their own languages in the empire but us. Don’t use Skenderbeu’s name and defend the Turks in the same paragraph. You vile scum. You’re probably a Kosovan who believes Erdogan and Turkey will be your salvation. Albanians like you are the reason we always end up on the wrong side of history.
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Calm down.
What happend in Cristchurch has nothing to do with rep. Serbia, Serbian people. Because the killer was listening to serbian type of music?
I live abroad, and from time to time play patriotic serbian songs amongst others. But I am not going around the churches doing...
You k Muslims are quick off the mark, making unwarranted claims, linking. 2+2=5
Some of you write all sorts and give an idea of being no better than the accused from Christchurch. Only a few days ago I saw a warning to serbs
If they come to trepca they would be.... Or recent threat to bomb belgrade, invade Serbia. A threat to come right up leskovac, nis. My list is endless. A threat issued to me if I try to come out of kosovo* or in Kosovo I would be arrested. Oh no you are not much better than the suspect from Christchurch.No.
You hate us because geographically Kosovo is ours. And we are not going to give it to you Nato or not Nato.
If Nato was normal they eoulg go tonight and destroy all of ammunition that Kosovo recently acquired, because you, Kosovo are in breach of resolution 1244.
The night is young we say here in uk. I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
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Do you know why Serbs support Asians !
Because they are same breed
Same coulor ,same race haha.
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The only person who would listen to the Serb fascist song he was listening to has to have Serbian blood. All of the people saying he "included" serb names on his weapons among others, using his alleged name have to face the truth. The person most likely to listen to that song has to have a Serb background. Sorry but if you speak Serbian, ceo svet te ipak ne razume bre.
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(Navi, 15 March 2019 16:37)
I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
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Wtf is going on here ?
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Unlike the Albanian trolls here who celebrate the illegal 78 day bombing campaign against innocent civilians in Serbia, and you know who you are, my condolences to the families affected by this tragedy in Australia. I'll never be mistaken for a Muslim sympathizer, however, this was senseless and wrong on so many levels. The irony here is that this situation is flip-flopped from what the world is used to - it's usually the Muslims taking innocent Christian lives.
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
"The gunman also wrote of how he supported US President Donald Trump “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” but not as a policymaker.
He goes on to reference Candace Owens: “The person who has influenced me above all is Candace Owens”. Owens is an outspoken US pro-Trump activist known for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party.
https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/gunman-opens-fire-in-christchurch-mosque/news-story/6f6ce5dc9db6cde5edf5ae778b6da368
Don't you feel stupid now? Pathetic that Albanians here are trying to make it something about them and their fictitious victimhood.
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How is the constitution of Serbia ?
who have power the president or the prime minister ?
i ask because i always see Vucic
the prime minister is pupet of Vucic or on her own ?
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda! There are everywhere, in balkans also. You recognize them as they jump and become yellow or green anytime Erdo and turks are mentioned! May the families of the victims of this horrendous crime find the force to overcome the pain.
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@Zoran
Nothing means more to Albanians, than our culture, lands, race and language. All our national heroes have fought and died against Muslim invaders. Religion and politics are nothing and mean nothing to us. I don’t condone violence against unarmed innocent civilians. However don’t get it confused Albanians know which side they are on, the bigger question is do your Slavic brothers in Bosnia know which side they are on ?
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Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
(Comment, 15 March 2019 12:07)
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Did you read the Evening Standard? Check -> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/gunman-livestreamed-new-zealand-mosque-attacks-and-published-antiimmigrant-manifesto-a4092416.html
It states:
"As he pulls up outside the mosque, the music changes to the traditional marching song of the British military, the British Grenadiers."
"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
Don't Albanians love the Brits? They did, after all, support Albanian terrorists.
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
(observer, 15 March 2019 12:24)
LOL hey Willi, get your head out of your @$$. The guy had all sorts of things written on his gun including Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, Charlemagne, Vienna 1689, 732 Battle of Tours, Lepanto 1571, Bohemond II of Antioch among others.
Oh yes and "14 words", which means 14/88, a Far Right slogan for Adolf Hitler - one of your culture's prize contributions to society.
So either all these people and events are Serbian, or you're just as much of an ignorant racist as the terrorist who killed more than 40 innocent lives. You and Rocky ought to either take some education classes together, or just hook up. Your Serbophobia constantly trips you up.
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Funny how only far right terrorists are the only people who sympathize with serbs. Normal people don't like serbs. Speaks for itself
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B92 Moderator - please!
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Skenderbeg was written on the gun.... waiting for the comment silence to fall now.
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Did these people who were arrested remove anybody's organs?????
Oh my apologize it wasn't in Serbia's province Kosovo* it was in New Zealand.
Look at these Albo muslims crying now. Your all hypocrites.
Ziveli Srbe i cela Srbija✊✊✊
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he attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
He also painted his guns with words like Vienna 1689, Luca Traini, Josua Estebanez, Feliz Kazimierz Potocki, Bohemund I of Antioch, Gaston IV, Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, and Charlemagne.
Were you going you mention those names too, or did you stop at "Milos Obilic" and think it was all about you?
Can you for once not try to come off as a village idiot? All those years living in the US and you still sound like someone who just came to a First World country from the trunk of an Opal.
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
(ISIS supports albanians, 15 March 2019 11:33)
Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
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It writes "Milos Obilic" on one of the cartridges. Tell me dear Albanians, do you claim he is one of yours?
Check -> https://www.b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2016&mm=05&dd=18&nav_id=98040
It states:
Albanian journalist Ben Andoni, who noted that as a student of history, he was taught that "Milos Obilic was Albanian."
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
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That's just terrible but it's a relief to know that I read in another article that the gunman who is said to be Australian born was taken into custody.
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Yes he wos very loyal to serbian music and i have name of car lazar and some other serbian terrorists names on his gun it shows what kind humans like serbia
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
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he attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
He also painted his guns with words like Vienna 1689, Luca Traini, Josua Estebanez, Feliz Kazimierz Potocki, Bohemund I of Antioch, Gaston IV, Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, and Charlemagne.
Were you going you mention those names too, or did you stop at "Milos Obilic" and think it was all about you?
Can you for once not try to come off as a village idiot? All those years living in the US and you still sound like someone who just came to a First World country from the trunk of an Opal.
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
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Skenderbeg was written on the gun.... waiting for the comment silence to fall now.
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
(observer, 15 March 2019 12:24)
LOL hey Willi, get your head out of your @$$. The guy had all sorts of things written on his gun including Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, Charlemagne, Vienna 1689, 732 Battle of Tours, Lepanto 1571, Bohemond II of Antioch among others.
Oh yes and "14 words", which means 14/88, a Far Right slogan for Adolf Hitler - one of your culture's prize contributions to society.
So either all these people and events are Serbian, or you're just as much of an ignorant racist as the terrorist who killed more than 40 innocent lives. You and Rocky ought to either take some education classes together, or just hook up. Your Serbophobia constantly trips you up.
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@Zoran
Nothing means more to Albanians, than our culture, lands, race and language. All our national heroes have fought and died against Muslim invaders. Religion and politics are nothing and mean nothing to us. I don’t condone violence against unarmed innocent civilians. However don’t get it confused Albanians know which side they are on, the bigger question is do your Slavic brothers in Bosnia know which side they are on ?
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Funny how only far right terrorists are the only people who sympathize with serbs. Normal people don't like serbs. Speaks for itself
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
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Yes he wos very loyal to serbian music and i have name of car lazar and some other serbian terrorists names on his gun it shows what kind humans like serbia
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Did these people who were arrested remove anybody's organs?????
Oh my apologize it wasn't in Serbia's province Kosovo* it was in New Zealand.
Look at these Albo muslims crying now. Your all hypocrites.
Ziveli Srbe i cela Srbija✊✊✊
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Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
(Comment, 15 March 2019 12:07)
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Did you read the Evening Standard? Check -> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/gunman-livestreamed-new-zealand-mosque-attacks-and-published-antiimmigrant-manifesto-a4092416.html
It states:
"As he pulls up outside the mosque, the music changes to the traditional marching song of the British military, the British Grenadiers."
"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
Don't Albanians love the Brits? They did, after all, support Albanian terrorists.
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
(ISIS supports albanians, 15 March 2019 11:33)
Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
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@Skenderbeu 1444
No self respecting Albanian would make the same comments you made. The Muslim Turks, butchered our men, enslaved our women and kidnapped our children for centuries. They taxed us to death until we converted to Islam. Every other ethnic group was allowed to practise their own customs and learn their own languages in the empire but us. Don’t use Skenderbeu’s name and defend the Turks in the same paragraph. You vile scum. You’re probably a Kosovan who believes Erdogan and Turkey will be your salvation. Albanians like you are the reason we always end up on the wrong side of history.
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That's just terrible but it's a relief to know that I read in another article that the gunman who is said to be Australian born was taken into custody.
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It writes "Milos Obilic" on one of the cartridges. Tell me dear Albanians, do you claim he is one of yours?
Check -> https://www.b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2016&mm=05&dd=18&nav_id=98040
It states:
Albanian journalist Ben Andoni, who noted that as a student of history, he was taught that "Milos Obilic was Albanian."
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Do you know why Serbs support Asians !
Because they are same breed
Same coulor ,same race haha.
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(Navi, 15 March 2019 16:37)
I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
"The gunman also wrote of how he supported US President Donald Trump “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” but not as a policymaker.
He goes on to reference Candace Owens: “The person who has influenced me above all is Candace Owens”. Owens is an outspoken US pro-Trump activist known for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party.
https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/gunman-opens-fire-in-christchurch-mosque/news-story/6f6ce5dc9db6cde5edf5ae778b6da368
Don't you feel stupid now? Pathetic that Albanians here are trying to make it something about them and their fictitious victimhood.
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Unlike the Albanian trolls here who celebrate the illegal 78 day bombing campaign against innocent civilians in Serbia, and you know who you are, my condolences to the families affected by this tragedy in Australia. I'll never be mistaken for a Muslim sympathizer, however, this was senseless and wrong on so many levels. The irony here is that this situation is flip-flopped from what the world is used to - it's usually the Muslims taking innocent Christian lives.
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda! There are everywhere, in balkans also. You recognize them as they jump and become yellow or green anytime Erdo and turks are mentioned! May the families of the victims of this horrendous crime find the force to overcome the pain.
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Calm down.
What happend in Cristchurch has nothing to do with rep. Serbia, Serbian people. Because the killer was listening to serbian type of music?
I live abroad, and from time to time play patriotic serbian songs amongst others. But I am not going around the churches doing...
You k Muslims are quick off the mark, making unwarranted claims, linking. 2+2=5
Some of you write all sorts and give an idea of being no better than the accused from Christchurch. Only a few days ago I saw a warning to serbs
If they come to trepca they would be.... Or recent threat to bomb belgrade, invade Serbia. A threat to come right up leskovac, nis. My list is endless. A threat issued to me if I try to come out of kosovo* or in Kosovo I would be arrested. Oh no you are not much better than the suspect from Christchurch.No.
You hate us because geographically Kosovo is ours. And we are not going to give it to you Nato or not Nato.
If Nato was normal they eoulg go tonight and destroy all of ammunition that Kosovo recently acquired, because you, Kosovo are in breach of resolution 1244.
The night is young we say here in uk. I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
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Some* of you Albanians are just sick. You use a tragedy like this to spew hate speech against Serbs? Honestly?
Peter Rocky Mountains you're a new level of low human.
Try to use your brain and think that Serbs have been murdered by your people too inside Serbia! Serbs were murdered in Bosnia too.
Can you not even read this news and think about the people that have been shot dead and their families instead of politicizing it with your hate speech. Honestly makes me sick.
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How is the constitution of Serbia ?
who have power the president or the prime minister ?
i ask because i always see Vucic
the prime minister is pupet of Vucic or on her own ?
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The only person who would listen to the Serb fascist song he was listening to has to have Serbian blood. All of the people saying he "included" serb names on his weapons among others, using his alleged name have to face the truth. The person most likely to listen to that song has to have a Serb background. Sorry but if you speak Serbian, ceo svet te ipak ne razume bre.
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Hold your horses Albanians. Turns out, the shooter had none other than Skanderbeg on his gun as well. Obviously, we all know Skanderbeg was actually Serbian himself. But which one is it? If you believe that Serbian nationalist ideology is to blame for this lunatic in New Zealand, then are you admitting Skanderbeg is also Serbian?
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Ari Gold
Gjergj Kastrioti was Albanian. He was the son of the Albanian Prince Gjon Kastrioti. Their origins were from Mat Albania. You serbs have no history yourselves so you steal from others. Pathetic. Must hurt that every historian on this earth agrees that Skanderbeg was Albanian. Even russian historians agree he was Albanian.
"Lord of Albania"
That was his title and the people who he fought for were Albanians. His people. His blood. His home
If i remember it right he disliked the serbs and saw them as untrustworthy as allies against the Ottoman Turks. He send his men to burn all serbian villages and kill all the serbs as a punishment for their untrustworthiness. So much for him being a "serb" HA! Hilarious!
It's all written in history. Something you can't change.
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@Chi Chi its important to distinguish that the tragedy took place in New Zealand not Australia as you said
The lunatic who committed this crime is Australian which you got mixed up on.
Condolences to the family of the victims.
Skanderbeg was written on top side of his rifle and I condemn the misuse of our national hero's name by radical extremist terrorists.
Also to those who claim Skanderbeg as a serb.... His mother is Slavic so what? He father was an Albanian Prince and it was normal at that time to marry princesses from neighboring dynasties for alliances.
That makes him mixed blood and he kicked ottomans *** with no outside support for consecutive 25 years.
What were the serbs doing at that time? ohhh thats right instead of joining Skanderbeg in fighting the turks.... The Brankovic's were paying tribute to and sending their princesses to sultans harem.
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Serb inspired hate speech inciting half-wits worldwide, and causing bloodshed as it did in the Balkans.
Whites/Europeans are not native to Australia; they took that land from the Aborigines, who they pretty much exterminated. Much the same as what the Serbs did to the native people of the Balkans, the Illyrians.
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions. He went back into history and lost himself in it which is what is happening in the Balkins. Let's shake hands and forget the past. The future is for our children to live in peace. Cheers.
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
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He didn't do this for Christianity. He did this for everyone except Islam.
This was more of frustration and fight back then fundamentalism. What he did was born or years of Al Quaeda, ISIS, JI etc killing Christians around the world and migrating to Christian lands to kill. He would never have gone and done this if Islam wasn't systematically eradicating the Christians.
I certainly don't agree with what he did and find that his actions have damaged any reaching out to Muslims but I don't think it was fundamentalism but extreme frustration, feeling of helplessness in protecting western countries and trying to force a resolution.
Fundamentalists are people who are so blinded by their own to the point of hatred of anything else. This was not the case. He didn't hate everything else. He was specific about going after one one ideology.
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
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Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 20:30) Who said any one of them were "Christians". Also Joseph Stalin was studying to be a Orthodox Priest not a Roman Catholic Jesuit. Until he made a career change which prepared him so well to be a murderous criminal psychopath.
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... I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
You better be happy for not being invoiced for back-to-reality services you get from your good Albanian neighbours! Consider yourself lucky.
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IDK why albanians are talking about serbs when this guy was obviously delusional but let's talk about all the albanians that are part of isis and killing innocent people everyday and allowing terrorism to flow into Europe you people are sick
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Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 19:21)
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I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around but in this particular case I blame the government, first and foremost.
When you take people's ability to discuss openly without fear of reprisal the subject such as Islam you are going to end up with violence.
We here are gagged to the point of fearing for our jobs if we dare say anything negative about Islam which we know has been responsible for many terrorist attacks including Australia.
This horror was born of that. Frustration and inability to talk openly pushes everything underground where it festers.
Islam is the only religion we are not allowed to criticise. People have been taken to court over their words and they weren't even bad, just plain criticism of Islam. People have lost their jobs.
All this while Muslims march on with their hateful signs and kill us on our streets and in cafes.
Like I said before, take away people's right to discuss this and you will drive in underground and to violence.
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Wtf is going on here ?
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I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
(Avni, 15 March 2019 18:52)
Yes, but your fellow Albanians here are desperately trying to argue that the terrorist was either a Serb, a Serb nationalist, or someone inspired by Serbian nationalism because he was listening to a Serbian song from the 1990s the Internet made viral and that he had the name of at least one Serbian figure on one of his guns. He himself said he was motivated and inspired by Trump. Not my fault and not Serbia's fault extremists sympathize with Serbia's plight from the 1990s. It's not like Serbia was supporting or instigating any of this violence. You and other Albanians are trying to make a point when there never was one.
He did however link Albanians to ISIS because so many of them joined their ranks. Maybe the bigger threat today isn't Serbian extremism but Albanian.
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What to do with Guest what to do with Guest? Ask B92 to practise their declared komitment to hold a civilized level of dialogue and censor this who doesnt know the history of his own land or be grateful to B92 for not having him censored because there can't be a better example of the dangerous effects of the mix of ignorance, racism, religious extremism than the comment of the only vile scum on this website and thats you Guest?
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B92 Moderator - please!
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Wtf is going on here ?
(Gjergj Arianiti, 15 March 2019 17:36)
Over-sized egos in overdrive.
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Now listen to me very carefully guest. You're a guest, I am Skenderbeu, history comes with me. After me to be more precise. In the sense that I've already debunked your false narrative on Empire's deeds and misdeeds, in my conversations with my friends here. Its another level of intellectual thriving, the one you'll never experience Im afraid. So simply put, I think you have an extremely bored and somehow dangerous mind and a very distorted personality. Its like writing to Breivik. So you'll understand if this weekend I will read more on Joseph Stalin, waiting for Ataman to provide any online sources for his claims.
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
(SerbianMasterRace, 16 March 2019 13:39)
The Master Race whose sons and daughters were given over 1000 years of prison time by the Westerners for the Masters Race's contribution to inhumanity. Yep, the Master Race!
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Chi: "Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community?"
Here, this will explain it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX17oIPKubA
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I have seen some pages of his manifesto and he clearly states that he is not a Christian (meaning he doesn't practice) he is neither left nor right as it all depends on how you define it. These are his words.
He doesn't hate Muslims but thinks he is defending west from Islam because of the high birth rate. This is what is in his manifesto.
Media has jumped all over this and have left things out and made things up because western media is very much in bed with Islam and protects it very well.
Do you know that here in Australia we are gagged? We can't even debate openly about Islam for fear of being labelled racist and losing our jobs?
This atmosphere will bring out the worst in us and the frustration rises to the very top.
People are fed up, scared and told to shut up or be called racist of Nazi. The left has taken over and any common sense is thrown out. Any politician who wants to bring this debate out is shouted at and called racist and extreme right wing.
So no, I don't think he is a fundamentalist but an extremely frustrated, angry man who has done this horrible thing.
It's made things a lot worse now as people are even more divided.
When you can't debate a very important subject like why are we importing more trouble then we are going to get this.
Did you know that two of the worshipers of that mosque are jihadists who trained Charlie Hedbo terrorists and that is where they got radicalized?
This is so much bigger than just plain fundamentalist act.
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
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We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
Yes, but what to do with the people? Say, we put the cowboys in the jail. How about the politicians in Belgrade? Except very few they are no more and no less, than mirror images of these "cowboys".
Than few years later elections. How would you make residents of Pristina interested whom they should elect in Belgrade?
Russia had a solution for a similar situation in Chechnya: make a deal with a local overlord and simply pay him off.
Sure, finding a "proper" ex-henchman and turn him 180 degrees is never a problem. Whom would you pay off in Kosovo?
Than there is that Kurti who would be just a pain in the @ss. Currently he is playing a populist game, he will be super-happy.
Your only feasible solution: silence him (you-know-how).
Than you are at the square one, like 30 years ago. Except that you have your very own henchman in Pristina who is ready to blackmail you or sell you anytime.
No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
(Chi, 16 March 2019 14:58)
https://youtu.be/T6jBmaYrt1g
LMMFAO, Who you trying to fool lil Chi, Chi ? The civilized world knows you Radical-Misfits back in Serbia are of the most degraded & degenerate stock found on planet earth!
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"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
(Zoran, 15 March 2019 13:18)
No no no, Zoran, don't you know? This guy had a Serbian song on his playlist in the car, so he's clearly Serbian. He's just lying that he's Scottish, Irish and English to protect his real identity. He's delusional, the New Zealand press is wrong, the Australian government is wrong. The only people who really know the truth is homo albanicus. They may only be partially housebroken and their break smells like shoe polish from all the American boots they've licked, but they are the only source of truth in the world. If some semi-literate Albanian troll on an English language version of a Serbian news portal says he was Serb and was driven by Serbian nationalism, which was responsible for killing upwards of 150 million Albanians in 1999 alone, then it must be true. Ricky, Willi, and the 50 different aliases of Azir wouldn't never steer us wrong :)
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The perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni. A special mention must also go to the fake Italian Albo who continues to post things only he understands.
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peggy, please stop lying to yourself. islam and christianity were both born out of violence. the bible and the quran both promote pedophilia, genocide, rape, murder, and slavery. islam and christianity were both created in the middle east from the same abrahamic ideology.
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chi, ask them
https://youtu.be/gMeW360flq8
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@serbianmasterrace, don't you think it's a bit ironic you would use such a name for public use, considering that Europeans/Germans gave serbs the label of being untermensch easterner criminals and invaders?
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Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
If you only knew the money that went into trying to keep Yugoslvaia together. Serbia alone will continue to pay its allotted portion of those loans until 2035. Others vary with some paying up to 2070.
If Yugoslavia could not be kept together and it’s a small entity to what you are suggesting, then what are the chances of this new confederation staying afloat? Not much. It’s a fairy-tale suggestion Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha that were sold on Communism solving all problems.
There are too many conflicting interests in this pot and when that happens at first opportunity it will dissolve. Bury the idea of Yugoslavia or enlarging it once and for all.
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
YES, many verses do.
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
NO, there is nothing in the doctrine which does that. If you can find it, show it.
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
NO, nothing in the Bible promoting that. If you can find it, show it.
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
Have you see this:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/nigeria-muslims-murder-another-10-christians-bringing-death-toll-to-140-since-february-10
Take your own advice.
(Azir, 18 March 2019 16:28)
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ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!
WAKE UP People of the earth who’s understanding is changing and in the 21 century in the time of information and knowledge and connection the TRUTH stands firm . Our sky has changed our understanding and our souls know more than what we see here .
You that speak the serbian language and Albanian language WAKE UP free from judging free from religion control and free from dogma our GOD has given LIFE in a form of baby to all the souls of the earth GOD has given LIFE . Which fool stands in his name and take that precious gift that GOD has to all your souls of eternity stop polluting your mind and the mind of thousands new souls to come to LIVE the free LiFE .
As I read through your comments my heart crys for the stupidity of our nature .
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You vile scum.
(Guest, 15 March 2019 19:40)
Хашиш Хаджигуестаjовић,
Sken is 100% Albanian, with 100% unusual views and he has 100% gentle soul. I don't care about him supporting that Chief Ayatollah Erdogan or Grand Tsar Putin.
He demonstrated strong, but the same time gentle character on B92.
You did not.
I did say everything with that, feel free to relax a bit and think a bit.
Thank you.
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@Chi
Why don’t you ask your Slavic Bosniak brothers and sisters, they are the ones joining terror groups in the thousands and had Islamists fight for them in the 90’s. Albanians don’t go around blowing up buildings and innocent people for imaginary sky G0ds.
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First of all, the perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his website/facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni.
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
(Sam, 16 March 2019 04:55)
That can't be ashamed when they have no shame to begin with. They've been given clear evidence that this guy was an Austrialian national of British ethnicity who was inspired by a slew of right-wing propaganda from the internet of which ONE ELEMENT is related to Serbia, and yet and these idiots jump all over it as if that was the catalyst that pushed him to murder.
These people are as delusional as they're perpetually ignorant and perpetually racist, which only furthers the understanding that they're widely despised throughout Europe by anyone who is unfortunate enough to have come into contact with a group of them and their demented mentality. Of course they're going to grasp at gaining political points from a tragedy. It's what they do. They've been trying to turn everything into a human rights sob story about their miserable existence for more than a century. These people believe the world revolves around their Third World family compounds because they honestly believe they've contributed to every element of Western civilization. They'd be annoying if they weren't so ridiculously and predictably hilarious.
If B92 wants to post their span comments, we might has well laugh at them. It's good for the internet traffic.
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
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@ Peggy You know I always respect your opinions and I also like your sense of humour. Sometime I read comments when its too late to reply so sorry if I ever didnt reply to you. I wrote "christians" because these type of mentally sick people apparently identify themselves with "christian" values. But no wonder here, nazis and fashists were all "christians" at the same degree. Speaking of islamic terrorism, you know I've been very hard on our local religious terrorists. I've also called upon Kosovo's police to put under surveillance all imams who dont openly dissociate themselves from albanian terrorists who joined Isis. Our muslim community is at the forefront of the fight against religious extremism. Isis is killing more muslims than christians Peggy. Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 05:54)
Sken,
Yes. And the lover of Mayakovski was the husband of his girlfriend.
I am not on drugs.
And Stalin was probably a double-agent, working for both "Okhranka" (the Segurimi of Tsar) and the Communists.
I am still not on drugs.
All this is now all over Wiki and about gazillion Russian sources.
Turns out, they were real people.
In addition to that, Stalin was a real S.O.B. comparable to Hitler only. And Enver Hoxha, Mao Zedong or Kim Irsen are nothing compared to Stalin.
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BTW, Sken, re-Kim Irsen.
I put a very cute joke here about the grandson of Kim Irsen, traveling through a fine Ukrainian city of Чоп. But B92 decided to censor it.
B92, you take away all the salt from my food!
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions.
(WestSwan, 16 March 2019 14:11)
According some respected media in UK, he was a nice kid who struggled horribly in the school. His father died because of asbestos poisoning.
They were close to the bottom of the society.
The most despicable, terrorist acts of war were committed by Hungarian servicemen in Ukraine and Serbia. Who grew up under similar circumstances.
Responsible is the perpetrator, the circumstances and the officers (or the propaganda).
Imprisoning the perpetrator for life (or executing him) is only half of the solution.
I hope, you agree, that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo, the usual blah blah and sliced bread with Nutella is a cheap propaganda. And has nothing to do with this tragedy.
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No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
For the Balkans to truly prosper , this is the only solution. Bulgaria has been part of the EU for a long time and progress has been stalled. Greece should also be part of these nation states as well as Croatia and Slovenia. Romania would be much more difficult to convince. However for this to happen, you need vision and leadership, unfortunately none of these countries are producing leaders with that vision. Vucic is probably the most flexible of all the current leaders but even he has limits. When you see Kosovo breaking the CEFTA , how are the going to uphold the laws in a loose confederation.
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Maybe they can drop that guy with a parachute over some islamist area.
He is the same shit like any other terrorist/murderer/hate spreading person.
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@ Ataman Kind words, spasiba bro. Its true though, Stalin killed the idea of balcanic federation cuz he saw in it, upon suggestions from Hoxha, a kind of threat to the indipindinciii and fridom of Albania and Bulgaria. Of course Stalin was afraid Tito would have dragged the two idiots in his original "neutrality" area out of the warsaw pact. How to blame Stalin on this? Hoxha on the other hand understood that in a new federation he personally had no chances to survive politically and Tito was just waiting for the moment to force him out of power.
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@Chi Chi nice trolling
When I was a kid I used to say chi chi when I had the need to go to the washroom
LOL just LOL
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When reading all Albanian comments, the only thing that appears is that the killer was something like a Serb. The primitive propaganda.If there is to be a comparison , then let us look what those "innocent" Albanians are doing to Serbs every day, and how far they go in their primitive behavior. Why they do not show what they wrote on their UCK flags or on Serbian Christian churches.The Scottish who killed 49 person is a terrorist, andhas nothing to do with Serbs. So, primitive and brain washed Albanians you should better sweap in front of your door step.
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The names of those in hos guns specially the national hero of all Albanian GJERGJ KASTRIOTI “ skenderbe”
Has not kill otomans becouse they were muslims or whatever religion he has killed because his nation was occupied and killed from otomans .
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Yes he wos very loyal to serbian music and i have name of car lazar and some other serbian terrorists names on his gun it shows what kind humans like serbia
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
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Did these people who were arrested remove anybody's organs?????
Oh my apologize it wasn't in Serbia's province Kosovo* it was in New Zealand.
Look at these Albo muslims crying now. Your all hypocrites.
Ziveli Srbe i cela Srbija✊✊✊
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These kind of actions will no doubt happen in occupied, terrorist ruled Kosovaaah***. Radical albanian jihadists can't help themselves. It's part of their nature.
(ISIS supports albanians, 15 March 2019 11:33)
Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
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Funny how only far right terrorists are the only people who sympathize with serbs. Normal people don't like serbs. Speaks for itself
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Unlike the Albanian trolls here who celebrate the illegal 78 day bombing campaign against innocent civilians in Serbia, and you know who you are, my condolences to the families affected by this tragedy in Australia. I'll never be mistaken for a Muslim sympathizer, however, this was senseless and wrong on so many levels. The irony here is that this situation is flip-flopped from what the world is used to - it's usually the Muslims taking innocent Christian lives.
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@Zoran
Nothing means more to Albanians, than our culture, lands, race and language. All our national heroes have fought and died against Muslim invaders. Religion and politics are nothing and mean nothing to us. I don’t condone violence against unarmed innocent civilians. However don’t get it confused Albanians know which side they are on, the bigger question is do your Slavic brothers in Bosnia know which side they are on ?
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Hold your horses Albanians. Turns out, the shooter had none other than Skanderbeg on his gun as well. Obviously, we all know Skanderbeg was actually Serbian himself. But which one is it? If you believe that Serbian nationalist ideology is to blame for this lunatic in New Zealand, then are you admitting Skanderbeg is also Serbian?
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Did you read or listen to the news? they slaughtered 50 muslims during prayer and on the road there he was listening to your Chetnik music and painted his mags with Chetnik heritage. Time to reflect.
(Comment, 15 March 2019 12:07)
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Did you read the Evening Standard? Check -> https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/gunman-livestreamed-new-zealand-mosque-attacks-and-published-antiimmigrant-manifesto-a4092416.html
It states:
"As he pulls up outside the mosque, the music changes to the traditional marching song of the British military, the British Grenadiers."
"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
Don't Albanians love the Brits? They did, after all, support Albanian terrorists.
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Calm down.
What happend in Cristchurch has nothing to do with rep. Serbia, Serbian people. Because the killer was listening to serbian type of music?
I live abroad, and from time to time play patriotic serbian songs amongst others. But I am not going around the churches doing...
You k Muslims are quick off the mark, making unwarranted claims, linking. 2+2=5
Some of you write all sorts and give an idea of being no better than the accused from Christchurch. Only a few days ago I saw a warning to serbs
If they come to trepca they would be.... Or recent threat to bomb belgrade, invade Serbia. A threat to come right up leskovac, nis. My list is endless. A threat issued to me if I try to come out of kosovo* or in Kosovo I would be arrested. Oh no you are not much better than the suspect from Christchurch.No.
You hate us because geographically Kosovo is ours. And we are not going to give it to you Nato or not Nato.
If Nato was normal they eoulg go tonight and destroy all of ammunition that Kosovo recently acquired, because you, Kosovo are in breach of resolution 1244.
The night is young we say here in uk. I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
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It writes "Milos Obilic" on one of the cartridges. Tell me dear Albanians, do you claim he is one of yours?
Check -> https://www.b92.net/eng/news/society.php?yyyy=2016&mm=05&dd=18&nav_id=98040
It states:
Albanian journalist Ben Andoni, who noted that as a student of history, he was taught that "Milos Obilic was Albanian."
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B92 Moderator - please!
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda! There are everywhere, in balkans also. You recognize them as they jump and become yellow or green anytime Erdo and turks are mentioned! May the families of the victims of this horrendous crime find the force to overcome the pain.
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Some* of you Albanians are just sick. You use a tragedy like this to spew hate speech against Serbs? Honestly?
Peter Rocky Mountains you're a new level of low human.
Try to use your brain and think that Serbs have been murdered by your people too inside Serbia! Serbs were murdered in Bosnia too.
Can you not even read this news and think about the people that have been shot dead and their families instead of politicizing it with your hate speech. Honestly makes me sick.
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It shows the entire world once more how sick Serb nationalism is. Serbia = the creepiest country in all of Europe!
(observer, 15 March 2019 12:24)
LOL hey Willi, get your head out of your @$$. The guy had all sorts of things written on his gun including Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, Charlemagne, Vienna 1689, 732 Battle of Tours, Lepanto 1571, Bohemond II of Antioch among others.
Oh yes and "14 words", which means 14/88, a Far Right slogan for Adolf Hitler - one of your culture's prize contributions to society.
So either all these people and events are Serbian, or you're just as much of an ignorant racist as the terrorist who killed more than 40 innocent lives. You and Rocky ought to either take some education classes together, or just hook up. Your Serbophobia constantly trips you up.
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Who knows, The attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
"The gunman also wrote of how he supported US President Donald Trump “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” but not as a policymaker.
He goes on to reference Candace Owens: “The person who has influenced me above all is Candace Owens”. Owens is an outspoken US pro-Trump activist known for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party.
https://www.news.com.au/world/pacific/gunman-opens-fire-in-christchurch-mosque/news-story/6f6ce5dc9db6cde5edf5ae778b6da368
Don't you feel stupid now? Pathetic that Albanians here are trying to make it something about them and their fictitious victimhood.
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he attackers were most likely Serbian-Radicaized, inspired by the Rat Ratko Mladic and Culryy Radovan Karadic!
Everyone the world over remembers
How many were systematically murdered in
Bosnia-Herzegovina!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 15 March 2019 10:23)
He also painted his guns with words like Vienna 1689, Luca Traini, Josua Estebanez, Feliz Kazimierz Potocki, Bohemund I of Antioch, Gaston IV, Sigmisund, John Hunyadi, and Charlemagne.
Were you going you mention those names too, or did you stop at "Milos Obilic" and think it was all about you?
Can you for once not try to come off as a village idiot? All those years living in the US and you still sound like someone who just came to a First World country from the trunk of an Opal.
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Skenderbeg was written on the gun.... waiting for the comment silence to fall now.
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
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How is the constitution of Serbia ?
who have power the president or the prime minister ?
i ask because i always see Vucic
the prime minister is pupet of Vucic or on her own ?
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Do you know why Serbs support Asians !
Because they are same breed
Same coulor ,same race haha.
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Now listen to me very carefully guest. You're a guest, I am Skenderbeu, history comes with me. After me to be more precise. In the sense that I've already debunked your false narrative on Empire's deeds and misdeeds, in my conversations with my friends here. Its another level of intellectual thriving, the one you'll never experience Im afraid. So simply put, I think you have an extremely bored and somehow dangerous mind and a very distorted personality. Its like writing to Breivik. So you'll understand if this weekend I will read more on Joseph Stalin, waiting for Ataman to provide any online sources for his claims.
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
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The only person who would listen to the Serb fascist song he was listening to has to have Serbian blood. All of the people saying he "included" serb names on his weapons among others, using his alleged name have to face the truth. The person most likely to listen to that song has to have a Serb background. Sorry but if you speak Serbian, ceo svet te ipak ne razume bre.
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@Skenderbeu 1444
No self respecting Albanian would make the same comments you made. The Muslim Turks, butchered our men, enslaved our women and kidnapped our children for centuries. They taxed us to death until we converted to Islam. Every other ethnic group was allowed to practise their own customs and learn their own languages in the empire but us. Don’t use Skenderbeu’s name and defend the Turks in the same paragraph. You vile scum. You’re probably a Kosovan who believes Erdogan and Turkey will be your salvation. Albanians like you are the reason we always end up on the wrong side of history.
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... I am sick and tired you comming onto B92 telling us how bad we are.
We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
You better be happy for not being invoiced for back-to-reality services you get from your good Albanian neighbours! Consider yourself lucky.
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
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(Navi, 15 March 2019 16:37)
I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
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Ari Gold
Gjergj Kastrioti was Albanian. He was the son of the Albanian Prince Gjon Kastrioti. Their origins were from Mat Albania. You serbs have no history yourselves so you steal from others. Pathetic. Must hurt that every historian on this earth agrees that Skanderbeg was Albanian. Even russian historians agree he was Albanian.
"Lord of Albania"
That was his title and the people who he fought for were Albanians. His people. His blood. His home
If i remember it right he disliked the serbs and saw them as untrustworthy as allies against the Ottoman Turks. He send his men to burn all serbian villages and kill all the serbs as a punishment for their untrustworthiness. So much for him being a "serb" HA! Hilarious!
It's all written in history. Something you can't change.
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
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He didn't do this for Christianity. He did this for everyone except Islam.
This was more of frustration and fight back then fundamentalism. What he did was born or years of Al Quaeda, ISIS, JI etc killing Christians around the world and migrating to Christian lands to kill. He would never have gone and done this if Islam wasn't systematically eradicating the Christians.
I certainly don't agree with what he did and find that his actions have damaged any reaching out to Muslims but I don't think it was fundamentalism but extreme frustration, feeling of helplessness in protecting western countries and trying to force a resolution.
Fundamentalists are people who are so blinded by their own to the point of hatred of anything else. This was not the case. He didn't hate everything else. He was specific about going after one one ideology.
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
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What to do with Guest what to do with Guest? Ask B92 to practise their declared komitment to hold a civilized level of dialogue and censor this who doesnt know the history of his own land or be grateful to B92 for not having him censored because there can't be a better example of the dangerous effects of the mix of ignorance, racism, religious extremism than the comment of the only vile scum on this website and thats you Guest?
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I have written it years ago, there are some christians who are more fondamentalists than Al Qaeda!
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 March 2019 14:06)
Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
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I guess you forgot "Trumpe Srbine" Serbian nationalists used to say after Trump won. Funny how only losers and crazies mention Serbs. Anders Breivik used to mention Serbs, too.
(Avni, 15 March 2019 18:52)
Yes, but your fellow Albanians here are desperately trying to argue that the terrorist was either a Serb, a Serb nationalist, or someone inspired by Serbian nationalism because he was listening to a Serbian song from the 1990s the Internet made viral and that he had the name of at least one Serbian figure on one of his guns. He himself said he was motivated and inspired by Trump. Not my fault and not Serbia's fault extremists sympathize with Serbia's plight from the 1990s. It's not like Serbia was supporting or instigating any of this violence. You and other Albanians are trying to make a point when there never was one.
He did however link Albanians to ISIS because so many of them joined their ranks. Maybe the bigger threat today isn't Serbian extremism but Albanian.
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IDK why albanians are talking about serbs when this guy was obviously delusional but let's talk about all the albanians that are part of isis and killing innocent people everyday and allowing terrorism to flow into Europe you people are sick
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The perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni. A special mention must also go to the fake Italian Albo who continues to post things only he understands.
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Serb inspired hate speech inciting half-wits worldwide, and causing bloodshed as it did in the Balkans.
Whites/Europeans are not native to Australia; they took that land from the Aborigines, who they pretty much exterminated. Much the same as what the Serbs did to the native people of the Balkans, the Illyrians.
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@Chi Chi its important to distinguish that the tragedy took place in New Zealand not Australia as you said
The lunatic who committed this crime is Australian which you got mixed up on.
Condolences to the family of the victims.
Skanderbeg was written on top side of his rifle and I condemn the misuse of our national hero's name by radical extremist terrorists.
Also to those who claim Skanderbeg as a serb.... His mother is Slavic so what? He father was an Albanian Prince and it was normal at that time to marry princesses from neighboring dynasties for alliances.
That makes him mixed blood and he kicked ottomans *** with no outside support for consecutive 25 years.
What were the serbs doing at that time? ohhh thats right instead of joining Skanderbeg in fighting the turks.... The Brankovic's were paying tribute to and sending their princesses to sultans harem.
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You vile scum.
(Guest, 15 March 2019 19:40)
Хашиш Хаджигуестаjовић,
Sken is 100% Albanian, with 100% unusual views and he has 100% gentle soul. I don't care about him supporting that Chief Ayatollah Erdogan or Grand Tsar Putin.
He demonstrated strong, but the same time gentle character on B92.
You did not.
I did say everything with that, feel free to relax a bit and think a bit.
Thank you.
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That's just terrible but it's a relief to know that I read in another article that the gunman who is said to be Australian born was taken into custody.
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Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
If you only knew the money that went into trying to keep Yugoslvaia together. Serbia alone will continue to pay its allotted portion of those loans until 2035. Others vary with some paying up to 2070.
If Yugoslavia could not be kept together and it’s a small entity to what you are suggesting, then what are the chances of this new confederation staying afloat? Not much. It’s a fairy-tale suggestion Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha that were sold on Communism solving all problems.
There are too many conflicting interests in this pot and when that happens at first opportunity it will dissolve. Bury the idea of Yugoslavia or enlarging it once and for all.
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Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 19:21)
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I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around but in this particular case I blame the government, first and foremost.
When you take people's ability to discuss openly without fear of reprisal the subject such as Islam you are going to end up with violence.
We here are gagged to the point of fearing for our jobs if we dare say anything negative about Islam which we know has been responsible for many terrorist attacks including Australia.
This horror was born of that. Frustration and inability to talk openly pushes everything underground where it festers.
Islam is the only religion we are not allowed to criticise. People have been taken to court over their words and they weren't even bad, just plain criticism of Islam. People have lost their jobs.
All this while Muslims march on with their hateful signs and kill us on our streets and in cafes.
Like I said before, take away people's right to discuss this and you will drive in underground and to violence.
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Do not look further than Ustashe, Jasenovac, Inquisition.
Than there was an unsuccessful jesuite monk, his name was Joseph Stalin.
(Ataman, 15 March 2019 20:30) Who said any one of them were "Christians". Also Joseph Stalin was studying to be a Orthodox Priest not a Roman Catholic Jesuit. Until he made a career change which prepared him so well to be a murderous criminal psychopath.
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I have seen some pages of his manifesto and he clearly states that he is not a Christian (meaning he doesn't practice) he is neither left nor right as it all depends on how you define it. These are his words.
He doesn't hate Muslims but thinks he is defending west from Islam because of the high birth rate. This is what is in his manifesto.
Media has jumped all over this and have left things out and made things up because western media is very much in bed with Islam and protects it very well.
Do you know that here in Australia we are gagged? We can't even debate openly about Islam for fear of being labelled racist and losing our jobs?
This atmosphere will bring out the worst in us and the frustration rises to the very top.
People are fed up, scared and told to shut up or be called racist of Nazi. The left has taken over and any common sense is thrown out. Any politician who wants to bring this debate out is shouted at and called racist and extreme right wing.
So no, I don't think he is a fundamentalist but an extremely frustrated, angry man who has done this horrible thing.
It's made things a lot worse now as people are even more divided.
When you can't debate a very important subject like why are we importing more trouble then we are going to get this.
Did you know that two of the worshipers of that mosque are jihadists who trained Charlie Hedbo terrorists and that is where they got radicalized?
This is so much bigger than just plain fundamentalist act.
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We want Kosovo *back. And we are not afraid of cowboys.
(Ljiljana, 15 March 2019 19:57)
Yes, but what to do with the people? Say, we put the cowboys in the jail. How about the politicians in Belgrade? Except very few they are no more and no less, than mirror images of these "cowboys".
Than few years later elections. How would you make residents of Pristina interested whom they should elect in Belgrade?
Russia had a solution for a similar situation in Chechnya: make a deal with a local overlord and simply pay him off.
Sure, finding a "proper" ex-henchman and turn him 180 degrees is never a problem. Whom would you pay off in Kosovo?
Than there is that Kurti who would be just a pain in the @ss. Currently he is playing a populist game, he will be super-happy.
Your only feasible solution: silence him (you-know-how).
Than you are at the square one, like 30 years ago. Except that you have your very own henchman in Pristina who is ready to blackmail you or sell you anytime.
No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
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Wtf is going on here ?
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Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community? Then you have a crazed "so called" Christian that kills 49, and he's just a plain old murderer - no 100 virgins for him?
(Chi, 16 March 2019 14:58)
https://youtu.be/T6jBmaYrt1g
LMMFAO, Who you trying to fool lil Chi, Chi ? The civilized world knows you Radical-Misfits back in Serbia are of the most degraded & degenerate stock found on planet earth!
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49 people died and Albanian Nationalists here are gain political points
you should be ashamed
(Sam, 16 March 2019 04:55)
That can't be ashamed when they have no shame to begin with. They've been given clear evidence that this guy was an Austrialian national of British ethnicity who was inspired by a slew of right-wing propaganda from the internet of which ONE ELEMENT is related to Serbia, and yet and these idiots jump all over it as if that was the catalyst that pushed him to murder.
These people are as delusional as they're perpetually ignorant and perpetually racist, which only furthers the understanding that they're widely despised throughout Europe by anyone who is unfortunate enough to have come into contact with a group of them and their demented mentality. Of course they're going to grasp at gaining political points from a tragedy. It's what they do. They've been trying to turn everything into a human rights sob story about their miserable existence for more than a century. These people believe the world revolves around their Third World family compounds because they honestly believe they've contributed to every element of Western civilization. They'd be annoying if they weren't so ridiculously and predictably hilarious.
If B92 wants to post their span comments, we might has well laugh at them. It's good for the internet traffic.
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"My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock."
(Zoran, 15 March 2019 13:18)
No no no, Zoran, don't you know? This guy had a Serbian song on his playlist in the car, so he's clearly Serbian. He's just lying that he's Scottish, Irish and English to protect his real identity. He's delusional, the New Zealand press is wrong, the Australian government is wrong. The only people who really know the truth is homo albanicus. They may only be partially housebroken and their break smells like shoe polish from all the American boots they've licked, but they are the only source of truth in the world. If some semi-literate Albanian troll on an English language version of a Serbian news portal says he was Serb and was driven by Serbian nationalism, which was responsible for killing upwards of 150 million Albanians in 1999 alone, then it must be true. Ricky, Willi, and the 50 different aliases of Azir wouldn't never steer us wrong :)
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ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!
WAKE UP People of the earth who’s understanding is changing and in the 21 century in the time of information and knowledge and connection the TRUTH stands firm . Our sky has changed our understanding and our souls know more than what we see here .
You that speak the serbian language and Albanian language WAKE UP free from judging free from religion control and free from dogma our GOD has given LIFE in a form of baby to all the souls of the earth GOD has given LIFE . Which fool stands in his name and take that precious gift that GOD has to all your souls of eternity stop polluting your mind and the mind of thousands new souls to come to LIVE the free LiFE .
As I read through your comments my heart crys for the stupidity of our nature .
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@Chi
Why don’t you ask your Slavic Bosniak brothers and sisters, they are the ones joining terror groups in the thousands and had Islamists fight for them in the 90’s. Albanians don’t go around blowing up buildings and innocent people for imaginary sky G0ds.
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First of all, the perpetrator was an Australian of Anglo-Saxon background who was born and lived with his family in a place called Grafton NSW which has a population of 18,000. His family still lives there.
He moved to New Zealand in 2011. The Albo dumb dumbs claim he was inspired by Serbians to do this since he had Milos Obilic written in Cyrillic. Well there were other names written on that rifle of people who fought the Ottomans at various times in history, together with a name Ebba Åkerlund and she was not a Serb. He mentioned the Battle of Acre in 1189 on his website/facebook.
The man spent time travelling in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Montenegro, Serbia and Croatia.
Just because he played what is tantamount to propaganda music of the 1990s about fighting Muslims it’s not a Serb inspired attack in Christchurch. Talk about grappling at straws. However, Albos fought for ISIS but love to point the finger at someone to avert attention from their misdeeds.
Naturally, the award for the dumbest commentary has to be shared between our very own Rocky Mountain Pete and his good friend Avni.
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When reading all Albanian comments, the only thing that appears is that the killer was something like a Serb. The primitive propaganda.If there is to be a comparison , then let us look what those "innocent" Albanians are doing to Serbs every day, and how far they go in their primitive behavior. Why they do not show what they wrote on their UCK flags or on Serbian Christian churches.The Scottish who killed 49 person is a terrorist, andhas nothing to do with Serbs. So, primitive and brain washed Albanians you should better sweap in front of your door step.
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
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Peggy alleges “ Islam promotes violence “!
YES, many verses do.
Does Orthodox promote Genocide,War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity?
NO, there is nothing in the doctrine which does that. If you can find it, show it.
Does Catholic Church (the Bible ) promote Pedophilia ?
NO, nothing in the Bible promoting that. If you can find it, show it.
Think 🤔 before you continue to embarrass your self..
Have you see this:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/03/nigeria-muslims-murder-another-10-christians-bringing-death-toll-to-140-since-february-10
Take your own advice.
(Azir, 18 March 2019 16:28)
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@Chi Chi nice trolling
When I was a kid I used to say chi chi when I had the need to go to the washroom
LOL just LOL
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BTW, Sken, re-Kim Irsen.
I put a very cute joke here about the grandson of Kim Irsen, traveling through a fine Ukrainian city of Чоп. But B92 decided to censor it.
B92, you take away all the salt from my food!
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Albie acting like they're not terrorist stains on Europe. You do know the KLA right? Every Westerner now knows it should have been you guys that got it in 99 with your organ harvesting, sex trafficking, drug scheming antics. Serbia Strong!
(SerbianMasterRace, 16 March 2019 13:39)
The Master Race whose sons and daughters were given over 1000 years of prison time by the Westerners for the Masters Race's contribution to inhumanity. Yep, the Master Race!
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Maybe they can drop that guy with a parachute over some islamist area.
He is the same shit like any other terrorist/murderer/hate spreading person.
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@ Peggy You know I always respect your opinions and I also like your sense of humour. Sometime I read comments when its too late to reply so sorry if I ever didnt reply to you. I wrote "christians" because these type of mentally sick people apparently identify themselves with "christian" values. But no wonder here, nazis and fashists were all "christians" at the same degree. Speaking of islamic terrorism, you know I've been very hard on our local religious terrorists. I've also called upon Kosovo's police to put under surveillance all imams who dont openly dissociate themselves from albanian terrorists who joined Isis. Our muslim community is at the forefront of the fight against religious extremism. Isis is killing more muslims than christians Peggy. Its a curse and you know we should thank Saudi Arabia and Big Brother America for this curse.
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@ Ataman Kind words, spasiba bro. Its true though, Stalin killed the idea of balcanic federation cuz he saw in it, upon suggestions from Hoxha, a kind of threat to the indipindinciii and fridom of Albania and Bulgaria. Of course Stalin was afraid Tito would have dragged the two idiots in his original "neutrality" area out of the warsaw pact. How to blame Stalin on this? Hoxha on the other hand understood that in a new federation he personally had no chances to survive politically and Tito was just waiting for the moment to force him out of power.
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@ Ataman Unsuccessful jesuit monk Stalin? You just broke my myth in pieces Ataman but this is very intriguing...
(Skenderbeu 1444, 16 March 2019 05:54)
Sken,
Yes. And the lover of Mayakovski was the husband of his girlfriend.
I am not on drugs.
And Stalin was probably a double-agent, working for both "Okhranka" (the Segurimi of Tsar) and the Communists.
I am still not on drugs.
All this is now all over Wiki and about gazillion Russian sources.
Turns out, they were real people.
In addition to that, Stalin was a real S.O.B. comparable to Hitler only. And Enver Hoxha, Mao Zedong or Kim Irsen are nothing compared to Stalin.
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chi, ask them
https://youtu.be/gMeW360flq8
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@serbianmasterrace, don't you think it's a bit ironic you would use such a name for public use, considering that Europeans/Germans gave serbs the label of being untermensch easterner criminals and invaders?
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions.
(WestSwan, 16 March 2019 14:11)
According some respected media in UK, he was a nice kid who struggled horribly in the school. His father died because of asbestos poisoning.
They were close to the bottom of the society.
The most despicable, terrorist acts of war were committed by Hungarian servicemen in Ukraine and Serbia. Who grew up under similar circumstances.
Responsible is the perpetrator, the circumstances and the officers (or the propaganda).
Imprisoning the perpetrator for life (or executing him) is only half of the solution.
I hope, you agree, that Serbia, Albania, Kosovo, the usual blah blah and sliced bread with Nutella is a cheap propaganda. And has nothing to do with this tragedy.
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Wtf is going on here ?
(Gjergj Arianiti, 15 March 2019 17:36)
Over-sized egos in overdrive.
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Tarrant is a mother's son and even though he did a dispicable, terrorist act she will ask many questions. He went back into history and lost himself in it which is what is happening in the Balkins. Let's shake hands and forget the past. The future is for our children to live in peace. Cheers.
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Chi: "Can one of you Albo trolls explain something to me? Why is it that when you fly a couple planes into the WTC and kill 3,000 people, you're considered a martyr by the Muslim community?"
Here, this will explain it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX17oIPKubA
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No matter what scenario I play, the only stable outcome seem to be a completely new federal country with a completely new constitution, including all countries of YU, adding Bulgaria and Albania.
Ironically, this is exactly what Dimitrov, Tito and Hoxha agreed on - but the idea was killed by Stalin.
(Ataman, 16 March 2019 00:45)
For the Balkans to truly prosper , this is the only solution. Bulgaria has been part of the EU for a long time and progress has been stalled. Greece should also be part of these nation states as well as Croatia and Slovenia. Romania would be much more difficult to convince. However for this to happen, you need vision and leadership, unfortunately none of these countries are producing leaders with that vision. Vucic is probably the most flexible of all the current leaders but even he has limits. When you see Kosovo breaking the CEFTA , how are the going to uphold the laws in a loose confederation.
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The names of those in hos guns specially the national hero of all Albanian GJERGJ KASTRIOTI “ skenderbe”
Has not kill otomans becouse they were muslims or whatever religion he has killed because his nation was occupied and killed from otomans .
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peggy, please stop lying to yourself. islam and christianity were both born out of violence. the bible and the quran both promote pedophilia, genocide, rape, murder, and slavery. islam and christianity were both created in the middle east from the same abrahamic ideology.
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