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Monday, 11.03.2019.

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EU "won't comment on stances of others, including of US"

Head of the EU Delegation to Serbia Sem Fabrizi did not wish to comment on the positions of "other parties", including the US stance on Kosovo.

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Miloš Obilić

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.
(Rocinante, 13 March 2019 03:39)

There was a big difference between the Ravna Gora movement (general Mihailović's "četnics"), who were Royal to the King, and Kosta Pećanac's četnics.

The četniks of Kosta Pećanac, which were already in existence before the invasion, did not share Mihailović's desire for resistance.

The stated goal of the Ravna Gora movement was the liberation of the country from the occupying armies of Germany, Italy + Albanian fascists, the Ustaše, and the Independent State of Croatia (Serbo-Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH)

So i suggest you spend a lot more time reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draža_Mihailović before you insult us (Ravna Gora) Četnics.

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

Current topic:

"Head of the EU Delegation to Serbia Sem Fabrizi did not wish to comment on the positions of "other parties", including the US stance on Kosovo"

After being hijacked:

Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

But from here:

http://tinyurl.com/y5nh9ns8

Oh we will. I vandalized three serbian graves on the cemetery that is near by me. It was hilarious 😂
(EthnicAlbania, 7 March 2019 18:30)

I am sure, Glow would like to explain, how EthnicAlbania became a chetnik and is now proud to commit disgusting crime three times.

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

A fair question from Lilly and extremely poor answer from Glow.

Much controversy does exist about chetniks - the rant above is historically incorrect and abusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Halyard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks

Rocinante, the temporarily Albo Ataman

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Glow blew it completely and ended up in usual troll-whining.
And if I am njegos I would never touch that subject it because earlier or later a troll will emerge and hijack the topic. As it happened.


So I have to become "Albanian" to counter you… so I am "Glow" for now.


Chetnik is a historic controversy.
At least some Chetniks did support the Vlasov-army - which is still an anathema in Russia and Vlasov will be never rehabilitated.
And way to much innocent blood is on their hands.

From today's point of view as "Albanian" I would call chetniks "militant populists".

Giving them more specific determination is incorrect because the chetnik movement was simply way to diverse.

Others you mentioned are far less militant - but some of them (FIDESZ) much more dangerous today.

Glow of course blew the rest, too. She could easily say, her ancestors fought against nazis with Enver Hoxha. She did not. To bad.


Now the usual suspect for the rest of us is "SS Skenderbeg & Co". And there we go.

Dumb troll, but not because "she" is Albanian(?).
Just because dumb + troll.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!

Lilly

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
I am proud of all men in my family!
My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow & Guest....such wishful thinking from you guys.
Listen, Kosovo is not recognised by almost half the countries of the world. Kosovo has mass unemployment and is a ghetto. What can America do to force Serbia to recognise Kosovo as a nation.? Attack Serbia..?? Dont be silly, just not going to happen. This is not 1999.
Looking at how things are I would say Kosovo is the desperate side here, and I expect more provocations from Pristina, particularly when its rejected for Interpol membership... again.
Best thing is for K Albos to stay part of Serbia (with autonomy). Then you can have visa free travel, investments and jobs. To say Kosovo will join Albania is stupid. Firstly it will not be allowed to happen (by some/most powers), and secondly, have you seen standards of living in Albania??
Much better to stay with Serbia, then peace and everone moves forward. If you dont believe me then ask yourself why dont K Albos move to Albania...for work, progress, etc...

njegos

pre 5 godina

Hey Blow, I mean Glow - The Chetniks under Draza Mihailovich were heroes who saved over 500 downed US airmen during WWII. Mihailovich was awarded the Legion of Merit Medal posthumously by President Truman. He was killed by Tito's communists after he was prevented from assembling a defense of the trumped up charges that were brought against him. Interesting that you would call him a fascist when Albanians, Croats and Muslims all sided with the fascists (Nazis) during WWI. Go figure. Who did your relatives fight with during WWII Glow?? Please answer...

Glow

pre 5 godina

Desperate Serbia begging for someone to tell them a lie! Where is Burundi when Serbia needs it?
Intervention 101, admitting you have a problem is the first step! Serbia should start from there!

Guest

pre 5 godina

What he is doing is using an area that is neither black, or white, creating more cushion for the EU for future explanations.

I myself just did that to get it through your thick skulls, Recognition is between the lines of legally binding agreement.

Difference is U.S. is clear about where they stand, and EU is not as clear intentionally so they can pretend to be your friends at the same stabbing Serbia in the back.

How dumb can you guys seriously be?

Dacic and Vucic already know this, they have yet to sell it to Serbs. This is the time where you grab popcorn and watch Serbian politicians try to spin this one which will be quite entertaining.

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!

njegos

pre 5 godina

Hey Blow, I mean Glow - The Chetniks under Draza Mihailovich were heroes who saved over 500 downed US airmen during WWII. Mihailovich was awarded the Legion of Merit Medal posthumously by President Truman. He was killed by Tito's communists after he was prevented from assembling a defense of the trumped up charges that were brought against him. Interesting that you would call him a fascist when Albanians, Croats and Muslims all sided with the fascists (Nazis) during WWI. Go figure. Who did your relatives fight with during WWII Glow?? Please answer...

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow & Guest....such wishful thinking from you guys.
Listen, Kosovo is not recognised by almost half the countries of the world. Kosovo has mass unemployment and is a ghetto. What can America do to force Serbia to recognise Kosovo as a nation.? Attack Serbia..?? Dont be silly, just not going to happen. This is not 1999.
Looking at how things are I would say Kosovo is the desperate side here, and I expect more provocations from Pristina, particularly when its rejected for Interpol membership... again.
Best thing is for K Albos to stay part of Serbia (with autonomy). Then you can have visa free travel, investments and jobs. To say Kosovo will join Albania is stupid. Firstly it will not be allowed to happen (by some/most powers), and secondly, have you seen standards of living in Albania??
Much better to stay with Serbia, then peace and everone moves forward. If you dont believe me then ask yourself why dont K Albos move to Albania...for work, progress, etc...

Glow

pre 5 godina

Desperate Serbia begging for someone to tell them a lie! Where is Burundi when Serbia needs it?
Intervention 101, admitting you have a problem is the first step! Serbia should start from there!

Lilly

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
I am proud of all men in my family!
My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?

Guest

pre 5 godina

What he is doing is using an area that is neither black, or white, creating more cushion for the EU for future explanations.

I myself just did that to get it through your thick skulls, Recognition is between the lines of legally binding agreement.

Difference is U.S. is clear about where they stand, and EU is not as clear intentionally so they can pretend to be your friends at the same stabbing Serbia in the back.

How dumb can you guys seriously be?

Dacic and Vucic already know this, they have yet to sell it to Serbs. This is the time where you grab popcorn and watch Serbian politicians try to spin this one which will be quite entertaining.

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

Current topic:

"Head of the EU Delegation to Serbia Sem Fabrizi did not wish to comment on the positions of "other parties", including the US stance on Kosovo"

After being hijacked:

Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

But from here:

http://tinyurl.com/y5nh9ns8

Oh we will. I vandalized three serbian graves on the cemetery that is near by me. It was hilarious 😂
(EthnicAlbania, 7 March 2019 18:30)

I am sure, Glow would like to explain, how EthnicAlbania became a chetnik and is now proud to commit disgusting crime three times.

Rocinante, the temporarily Albo Ataman

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Glow blew it completely and ended up in usual troll-whining.
And if I am njegos I would never touch that subject it because earlier or later a troll will emerge and hijack the topic. As it happened.


So I have to become "Albanian" to counter you… so I am "Glow" for now.


Chetnik is a historic controversy.
At least some Chetniks did support the Vlasov-army - which is still an anathema in Russia and Vlasov will be never rehabilitated.
And way to much innocent blood is on their hands.

From today's point of view as "Albanian" I would call chetniks "militant populists".

Giving them more specific determination is incorrect because the chetnik movement was simply way to diverse.

Others you mentioned are far less militant - but some of them (FIDESZ) much more dangerous today.

Glow of course blew the rest, too. She could easily say, her ancestors fought against nazis with Enver Hoxha. She did not. To bad.


Now the usual suspect for the rest of us is "SS Skenderbeg & Co". And there we go.

Dumb troll, but not because "she" is Albanian(?).
Just because dumb + troll.

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

A fair question from Lilly and extremely poor answer from Glow.

Much controversy does exist about chetniks - the rant above is historically incorrect and abusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Halyard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks

Glow

pre 5 godina

Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.

Miloš Obilić

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.
(Rocinante, 13 March 2019 03:39)

There was a big difference between the Ravna Gora movement (general Mihailović's "četnics"), who were Royal to the King, and Kosta Pećanac's četnics.

The četniks of Kosta Pećanac, which were already in existence before the invasion, did not share Mihailović's desire for resistance.

The stated goal of the Ravna Gora movement was the liberation of the country from the occupying armies of Germany, Italy + Albanian fascists, the Ustaše, and the Independent State of Croatia (Serbo-Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH)

So i suggest you spend a lot more time reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draža_Mihailović before you insult us (Ravna Gora) Četnics.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Desperate Serbia begging for someone to tell them a lie! Where is Burundi when Serbia needs it?
Intervention 101, admitting you have a problem is the first step! Serbia should start from there!

Guest

pre 5 godina

What he is doing is using an area that is neither black, or white, creating more cushion for the EU for future explanations.

I myself just did that to get it through your thick skulls, Recognition is between the lines of legally binding agreement.

Difference is U.S. is clear about where they stand, and EU is not as clear intentionally so they can pretend to be your friends at the same stabbing Serbia in the back.

How dumb can you guys seriously be?

Dacic and Vucic already know this, they have yet to sell it to Serbs. This is the time where you grab popcorn and watch Serbian politicians try to spin this one which will be quite entertaining.

THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow & Guest....such wishful thinking from you guys.
Listen, Kosovo is not recognised by almost half the countries of the world. Kosovo has mass unemployment and is a ghetto. What can America do to force Serbia to recognise Kosovo as a nation.? Attack Serbia..?? Dont be silly, just not going to happen. This is not 1999.
Looking at how things are I would say Kosovo is the desperate side here, and I expect more provocations from Pristina, particularly when its rejected for Interpol membership... again.
Best thing is for K Albos to stay part of Serbia (with autonomy). Then you can have visa free travel, investments and jobs. To say Kosovo will join Albania is stupid. Firstly it will not be allowed to happen (by some/most powers), and secondly, have you seen standards of living in Albania??
Much better to stay with Serbia, then peace and everone moves forward. If you dont believe me then ask yourself why dont K Albos move to Albania...for work, progress, etc...

njegos

pre 5 godina

Hey Blow, I mean Glow - The Chetniks under Draza Mihailovich were heroes who saved over 500 downed US airmen during WWII. Mihailovich was awarded the Legion of Merit Medal posthumously by President Truman. He was killed by Tito's communists after he was prevented from assembling a defense of the trumped up charges that were brought against him. Interesting that you would call him a fascist when Albanians, Croats and Muslims all sided with the fascists (Nazis) during WWI. Go figure. Who did your relatives fight with during WWII Glow?? Please answer...

Glow

pre 5 godina

Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.

Lilly

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
I am proud of all men in my family!
My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

Current topic:

"Head of the EU Delegation to Serbia Sem Fabrizi did not wish to comment on the positions of "other parties", including the US stance on Kosovo"

After being hijacked:

Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

But from here:

http://tinyurl.com/y5nh9ns8

Oh we will. I vandalized three serbian graves on the cemetery that is near by me. It was hilarious 😂
(EthnicAlbania, 7 March 2019 18:30)

I am sure, Glow would like to explain, how EthnicAlbania became a chetnik and is now proud to commit disgusting crime three times.

Rocinante

pre 5 godina

My grandfather was a soldier in WWI
My father an army officer (Partizan) in WW2.
And the rest fought NATO. And yours glow? Where were them?
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

A chetnik is a nationalist that will kill others based on their ethnicity and religion! I guess in Serbia that is considered a "hero"!
Thank you for confirming what we already know about Serbia!
Serbia's three wars in the Balkans were led by these chetniks that committed the most horrendous and inhumane crimes!
(Glow, 12 March 2019 16:38)

A fair question from Lilly and extremely poor answer from Glow.

Much controversy does exist about chetniks - the rant above is historically incorrect and abusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Halyard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chetniks

Rocinante, the temporarily Albo Ataman

pre 5 godina

@glow.
Cetnik? No different from conservatives, lib-dem, labour, SNS, Fidetz...
What's in the name? A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Glow blew it completely and ended up in usual troll-whining.
And if I am njegos I would never touch that subject it because earlier or later a troll will emerge and hijack the topic. As it happened.


So I have to become "Albanian" to counter you… so I am "Glow" for now.


Chetnik is a historic controversy.
At least some Chetniks did support the Vlasov-army - which is still an anathema in Russia and Vlasov will be never rehabilitated.
And way to much innocent blood is on their hands.

From today's point of view as "Albanian" I would call chetniks "militant populists".

Giving them more specific determination is incorrect because the chetnik movement was simply way to diverse.

Others you mentioned are far less militant - but some of them (FIDESZ) much more dangerous today.

Glow of course blew the rest, too. She could easily say, her ancestors fought against nazis with Enver Hoxha. She did not. To bad.


Now the usual suspect for the rest of us is "SS Skenderbeg & Co". And there we go.

Dumb troll, but not because "she" is Albanian(?).
Just because dumb + troll.

Miloš Obilić

pre 5 godina

A political movement called just "cetnik"
(Lilly, 11 March 2019 20:45)

Since I dared to write earlier - I spent some extra time today reading about their deeds and now I do not see chetniks being much better than the SS Skenderbeg: not much military use - horrific civil and partizan sufferings.

And wide collaboration with Ustashe and Italians. Even Germans later on. Yuck.

Not sure, why you would affected as your relatives all were on the opposite site.
(Rocinante, 13 March 2019 03:39)

There was a big difference between the Ravna Gora movement (general Mihailović's "četnics"), who were Royal to the King, and Kosta Pećanac's četnics.

The četniks of Kosta Pećanac, which were already in existence before the invasion, did not share Mihailović's desire for resistance.

The stated goal of the Ravna Gora movement was the liberation of the country from the occupying armies of Germany, Italy + Albanian fascists, the Ustaše, and the Independent State of Croatia (Serbo-Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, NDH)

So i suggest you spend a lot more time reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draža_Mihailović before you insult us (Ravna Gora) Četnics.