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Friday, 01.03.2019.

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Thaci says Kosovo will be partitioned over his dead body

The president of the provisional Pristina institutions claims that "partition and territory swap" in Kosovo can only happen "over his dead body." him dead.

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Peggy

pre 5 godina

And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.
(sj, 6 March 2019 09:55)
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Of course it is. It's a wonderful dream but can never become reality. Croats are still stuck in the Nazi Ustasha era even today. We can see the depth of loathing from Albanians on this site and maybe the only ones who might want to reconcile might be Bosnian Muslims but only if Wahhabbi influence is kicked out of Bosnia. That's a real concern now.
Here in Melbourne there was a Croatian priest whose surname was Kasic. As a member of clergy you would think he would look at things differently but he was the most loyal Ustasha.
I suppose he took example from the clergy from WW2 who participated in killing Serbs. Not only blessing the killers but were killers themselves.
There is no hope for people like that. Yes, exceptions do occur and there are some good Croatians who are trying to move on and embrace all but sadly they don't seem to make a dint.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

"But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians."

Agreed that he is Russian. But his posts are endless rants against Albanians.

"There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree."

I also agree with you.

"There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help. But you do just that." (Ataman, 6 March 2019 15:46)

LOL

Ataman

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!
(Glow, 4 March 2019 17:11)

But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians. I, too, believe like most people here that Zhukov = Rote.

There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree. I am Russian, by the way, too - and that was proven many times. That does not prevent me to disagree with Rote.

But what you write won't help you.

There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help.
But you do just that.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.
(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:06)
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I'm still waiting for you to declare yourself on this one.
Losing hope.
It's so big of you to talk about everyone being equal and loving one another. It's a beautiful dream and nothing would make me happier if it ever came to be but I live in the real world.
So how about something a little more difficult like answering that question honestly.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:15)

Croats had a hall in western Sydney, I think it was in the suburb of St Marys and outside it had written “No dogs or Serbs allowed inside”.
Then on one occasion that I am aware during the 1990s at the King Tomislav Hall Edensor Park, Sydney, they were cutting up pig on a spit and one Croat grabbed an axe saying as he cut its head off “this is what we will do to the Serbs” to the roar and applause of the entire crowd.
And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.
(sj, 5 March 2019 08:09
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Exactly right. If Croats felt like our brothers and sisters they wouldn't have been preparing for a civil war before the 90s by arming themselves.
In the late 70s I think it was around 12 Croatians from Australia went to Yugoslavia to start a revolution.
I'm sure you are aware of Croatian churches and clubs which had pictures of Ante Pavelic on the the walls. I saw all that. I had a misfortune to go to a Croatian church for a wedding and attended some of their dances because I knew some Croatians. Even though they were fine with me I felt the hatred for Serbs once inside and never went again. This was people who came to Australia and continued with hatred.
If the rotten 12 who went there didn't think they had plenty of support they wouldn't have gone there. Remember the Croatian terrorist training camp in the 70s as well?
The hatred never ended so I don't know what this Tito guy is talking about. Any peace was kept by force while Tito was alive but as soon as he died it all went downhill. Leaders could not call so many to arms if there was brotherhood and unity.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.
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That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.

Wasting time

pre 5 godina

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?... (Tito reloaded, 5 March 2019 10:53)

I agree with you entirely. But I don't think you will make any progress with a commenter who has a binary view of the world and lacks fundamental virtues.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?
(Peggy)
As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?...

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)

The problem with people like you, who believe that it was wonderful during Tito’s time, live in fantasy and as time moves on it becomes greater and greater much like the fisherman and the catch that got away.
Tito murdered thousands that even looked sideways. This Titoistic myth of living in harmony is just that; pure BS.
I always like to tell the story of a friend of the family who passed away years ago. Her husband was an engineer and he was posted outside Rijeka for several months on a project. So, she decided to visit him with their baby son but had to make can overnight stop in Zagreb before continuing the journey. She went to restaurant and asked for Supa and Helb. The waiter was a Serb who warned her not to use those works in Croatia otherwise she could easily disappear. That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:42)
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Are you sure you are being just on this occasion?
Srebrenica was an act of revenge on what happened around Srebrenica prior. Don't forget the thousands of Serbian victims slaughtered by Naser Oric's gang. This slaughter was of women and children as well which didn't happen to the Muslims. Their women and children were put on busses and allowed to leave. No such mercy for Serbian women and children around Srebrenica.
Please don't make it sound like Serbs woke up one morning and decided to kill men and boys of Srebrenica because they felt like a bit of sport. Anger at what happened to their own was a powerful motivator and yes, as much as they were both victims the Serbs were the primary victims which nobody wants to acknowledge.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war.
(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)
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Then I assume that your personal enemy would have been Croatian, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanian leaderships.

Let's not forget that people jumped at the chance to have their own country where they thought they would be the boss.

You see, Serbian politicians did not start anything. Serbia never declared a civil war on anyone but only reacted to the war already declared by Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanians.
Slovenia seceded and not a shot was fired and nobody killed.

How come Croatia instead of negotiating and taking Serbian interests into consideration (as was a constitutional requirement) armed themselves secretly by smuggling arms through Hungarian border?
After WW2 Croatian border were adjusted in Croatia's interest. Serbs were on that land longer than Croatians but Croatia decided they will keep it.
Bosnians Muslims didn't have the right to control all of Bosnia, or did they? What do you think? They made that decision at Serbs' expense.
K-Albanians rose greatly in numbers after WW2. A little present from Tito by not controlling the border with Albanian so much.
But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?

Peggy

pre 5 godina

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30)
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That happens to me as well but when it does I know that the comment hasn't gone though and I write it again.
Sometimes I have to go back to the article and post from the comment section there instead of from the comment section once in the actual comment section.
It will go through eventually. It might take two or three goes at it.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30

I appreciate you trying to explain why all my comments don't get posted but the reality is very different!
There are certain truth-heavy comments that don't make it thru, and it's not just insults or things of that nature! It is not my fault the Serbia's history is so criminal and that my facts and evidence is deemed inappropriate when trying to prove my point!

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, all the known surviving scripts and literature pertaining to Illyrian etymology for names, regions and bodies of water, are directly translated using ONLY the Albanian Illyrian language. The Albanoi were a documented tribe of Illyrians that inhabited precisely the same land area (Albanopolis) that Albanians inhabit today. Do you honestly think these are just some random coincidences that haradinaj invented in order to make you feel bad? forget about Albanian archaeologists, we are talking about international scholars from various fields in all universities have concluded that Albanians are the illyrians. the very few of the worlds scholars that don't subscribe to the illyrian theory, rather place Albanians as descendants of dacians or thracians or even coming from all three of those ancient peoples...either way, your argument regarding Albanian presence in the peninsula are null and void and completely out of touch with reality. And yes, we do understand that this behavior of feigned ignorance is nothing more .than an act. you of all people know better than anyone that Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians and indigenous to the region

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

...or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.
(Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

(Insult-free posts, 2 March 2019 20:30)

Exactly! Hypocrisy at its best!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:35)

Fact#1: My post didn’t insult or personally attack anyone.
Fact#2: Glow doesn’t even realize that a KLA criminal terrorist leader confessed that he and his ghetto are “isolated”!
https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2018&mm=01&dd=29&nav_id=103372
Fact#3: Glow denies KLA terrorist Haradinaj’s recent quote from a US news article: “Kosovo residents remain "in a ghetto,"”
https://www.foxnews.com/world/eu-urges-kosovo-to-drop-tariffs-as-political-tensions-mount
Fact#4: The KLA was classified as a terrorist organization by the USA and UNSC in UNSCR resolution 1160, and is listed as a terrorist organization by the MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base.
Fact1+2+3+4= Glow denies “exact” facts with “unexact” claims of insult and hypocrisy.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

'I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.'

Examples?

'I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.' (Ataman, 4 March 2019 08:31)

PS - You are my favorite commenter!

sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 3 March 2019 23:23)
At various points in time peoples came to Europe and settled there. There is NO evidence that Albos were there before anyone. Since you mention Serbs and Turks I can take liberty to include Greeks as well since according to some of your semiliterate brethren Classical Greek stems from Albanian.
A good academic may have theories on a subject write numerous books, work all their teaching life to prove their theory, give lectures on the subject, but he/she will never claim their theory is fact unless there is irrefutable evidence to substantiate that it’s not a theory, but fact.
All ancient writings mention the tribes of Illyria but these people left no written language so there is no proof that Alboism is Illyrian.
All ancient structures in Kosovo do not belong to Albos; they are either Celtic, Greek, Roman, Turkish and Serbian. Its fact not a dream.
You’re like Croats; another dim people, who claim being indigenous and yet records show they only arrived in the 7th Century.
Your Albo “archaeologists” might be spruiking this indigenous rubbish but the rest of academia does not.
Serbs do not make ridiculous claims about their history but its only people that have no culture that make it up as they go along. You people need to attend a real university not clown colleges in Pristina or Tirana. Well, there is the American University where your chief clown Haradjin did his MBA - “text” books must have had plenty of pictures in them.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.
(Peggy)
100.000s of serbs had to leave their homes because of the mindset of nationalists, without the war of the cetniks, ustasha, kla and mudjehadins there would have been no war in the 90s and many would still live in their homes not only serbs.
Bosnia is the example that no side was better than the other, almost all areas are now either bosnian, croatian or serbian and the others are not there anymore.
Of course Tito will not be back, but that does not mean we have to hate the others forever. We are all the same.
My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war. I have no problems to move for the time of war away with my family as anyway we live in 2 countries but many do not have this luxury.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

Nope.

I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.

What you do is trolling and provocation by intent, also violating all the rules by intent, not because you are upset.

An over-extended ego and evil motivations have nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs or whatever.

You just merely use the existing conflict to elevate your ego.

If "sj" or whoever calls you names, he is right by default - even if his statements otherwise would be 100% wrong.

I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)
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C'mon B92, this one's just too juicy to pass up.
Let me pleeeeeez.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

They will never let this change
(BLACK EAGLE, 3 March 2019 11:22)
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They let go of Syria when they saw the writing on the wall.
They will let go of you too.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

[link]
(Avni, 2 March 2019 19:15
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Avni,
This is an English site and not everyone understand Serbian or Albanian so could you please post comments from a Serbian site on Serbian site. We, who speak Serbian are capable enough to go to a Serbian version of B92 if we wish.
Posting a link to a site is a different story but don't assume everyone can understand your comment unless it is in English.
It is quite annoying and I am sure many, including me will just skip over it anyway.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:56)
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That's all I need with you.
Buddy, this is a public forum and I can answer any comment I wish. Don't like it, take it up with the moderators.
Oh yes, you already have asked them to help you out.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18
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Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:31)

Many of my apolitical comments aren't posted either. And sometimes the posting does not happen (the web site returns to default state) for no apparent reason. Sometimes it helps if I remove quotes or use single ones (') instead of double ("). Sometimes re-writing everything and using the tinyurl.com to compress the url helps.

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18)

But how about Washington DC, Moscow, Budapest? And don't forget Bibi either. These days fascism is "in". And apparently it's OK to post here on B92 using a nick "Aqif Blyta". (Hello Tom!)

B92 should be clear: holocaust denial = nazi (fascist is way to nice word for that). Apparently some idiots don't mind to use a nazi nick just to have fun and see how angry others can be.

Personally I don't believe these idiots are nazis - they just pulling the leg and tease. This is not a good tease and it has to be stopped at the roots, instantly.

This is why Jasenovac, Bor, Auschwitz, Mauthausen should have "holy cow" status: you touch that topic improperly, you are out.

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you are posting blatant lies. can you name any sources within any international academic circles that support your idea of Albanians not being indigenous? just that alone shows your total disregard for reality. you are literally making things up out of sheer spite, or envy, not really sure. either way, it shows you are out of control with fantasy propaganda in order to justify your immoral and illegal claims over the Albanian land Dardania. Albanians are indeed the oldest indigenous population of not only kosova, but the entire peninsula. Albanians have inhabited these lands LONG before the ottoman turks and serb invasions. this is a fact of history which Albanians will never allow to be changed. so now you know that it would require wiping out any trace of Albanians as a people in order to achieve such a thing. serbia is on record of trying to do just that which anyone can read at serbian academy of sciences and arts archives

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.
(Clarification please, 1 March 2019 21:10)

- "Staff" wrote on multiple occasions that he is not Serb. It is very unlikely B92 would employ a non-Serb (think employment permits).

- It is not customary to invite journalists to insider political meetings or workgroups - only if there is something to say for the general public.
An other reason why it is very unlikely that "Staff" does work for B92.

- "Staff" may also mean, he works for instance for UNMIK or EULEX (unlikely). Most likely is, that he just pulls our leg.

- If I would work for UNMIK (or other political organization) I would never risk my job by revealing some insider information untimely.
However, B92 can't stop "Staff" doing what he does - because there is no strong enough proof him NOT being an insider.

I find your post very interesting: you ask a Serbian news channel to do something of your likening (i.e. ban "Staff" if he is working for B92).
That means you are trusting them. Which in a twist means: you hopefully will restrain yourself from endless anti-Serbian rants.
Why ask someone's favor or trust their judgement being fair if you hate them?

Glow

pre 5 godina

You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors.
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 20:25)

Warriors? Did you mean to say criminals that are being sought by the International War Crimes Justice for their killings of innocent civilians when they could not keep up with KLA! You are aware that 85% of the victims of Kosova war were innocent civilians, right?
Those "warriors" are living in the hiding as they know that they are on borrowed time!

I hope this comment gets posted!

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

USA will never allow you to do this. They don't want a big country on the Balkans. They want many small and week countries, so they can easily control them. And also Albania and Kosovo are maybe the biggest american base in Europe. They will never let this change

sj

pre 5 godina

(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

If it has not dawned on you yet B92 is a Serbian based media site. Now I don’t speak for B92, but on my part if you’re not happy go to an Albanian site.
For years I have said that after WW2 US became an empire and empires have no friends. They are using Albanians in Kosovo for only one purpose that is to their advantage. What have they done to improve living standards in Kosovo? NOTHING.

While I appreciate debate based on facts the vast majority of your Albanians try and pass off their opinions and views as facts starting from being IIyrians to being indigenous to the Balkans and so on.
After many people pointing out that these are not facts, they continue to post nonsense. Now I am not a psychiatrist or a mental health worker to clearly define any mental health issues, but I am reasonably intelligent to assess that if you repeat the same error over and over again there is something very wrong with you.

Glow

pre 5 godina

@Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?
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And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being?
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42
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When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
But this next one was posted which tells me that your rules are one-sided!

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And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being? 
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42) 

🤣 You are a "class act"!
(Glow, 25 February 2019 13:24)

Glow

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!

Hilarious

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals. (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 1 March 2019 22:06)

Hilarious! Funniest post I have read in months!

Insult-free posts

pre 5 godina

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders. (Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

I am happy to read this insult-free post. Very refreshing to my soul!

B92

pre 5 godina

@ Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?

@ Serbian Psychiatrist
Thank you for pointing out to the comment in question. We find that it was not aimed at any specific participant in the conversation. However, we discourage this type of language as unconstructive and will apply more strict moderation in future.

@ Clarification please
If you have any suspicion and/or proof of this (we don't), our recommendation is to take it up with the management of the website.


Thank you everyone for reading our stories and commenting on them, and to those who engaged in this particular conversation.

Regards,

B92

Avni

pre 5 godina

Cilj pregovora je priznanje nezavisnosti Kosova

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=03&dd=02&nav_category=640&nav_id=1511939

Serbian Psychiatrist

pre 5 godina

Some people are prone to idiocy and psychiatric treatment, in combination with medication, occasionally does help. As I said anyone who believes that the US is in Kosovo for the betterment of Albos is an idiot. (sj, 1 March 2019 09:52)

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Seeing that you posted this comment - among many other abusive ones from sj - I think it would be more accurate to qualify that statement. I suggest something like this:

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Thaci should accept the American deal Trump said to settle Kosovo therefore Thaci should not make such comment America decided have Kosovo fate Not the Albanians. They know that but the Albanians alway lie when come to politics.

zoe

pre 5 godina

I dont care what USA or World will do, because many of us(kosovars) wont stay and fight in order to protect our lands against Serbia, Russia and USA. Seems history repeats itself.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 18:15)
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Well, that might depend on just how nasty you got.
Judging by the comments which make it though from Albanians, yours must be real gems not to make it thought.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

This clear message is not coming only from Thaqi personally but all of Kosova and Albania! 🇽🇰🇦🇱
(Glow, 1 March 2019 16:59

It is a bad omen for an Albanian to start an argument referring to Thaçi as "Thaqi".

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow, if the KLA was so good and was defeating the Serbian forces why did they need Nato's help?
If truth be told the KLA would have been wiped out without Nato.
Deep down you know that Kosovo forces were never a match for Serbia, and that is true today as well. But I guess its good for morale to grossly overestimate ones abilities (a bit like Eagle eye declaring that there are 27 million Albanians in the world..!?!).

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals.

LOL

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??
(Azir, 1 March 2019 17:34)

See, here's the problem with that, Big Boy: all "Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands" are already owned by Albanians. The problem we face is that there's too goddamned many of you inhabiting and infesting the historical homelands of other people.

So kindly get out of Kosovo, Macedonia, Presevo, and Northern Epirus (Albanian occupied Greece).

It can only improve those lands.

Hee Haw,

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 17:31)

Watching too many mickey mouse cartoons....KLA couldn't move an inch into Kosovo, Pavkovic obliterated the terrorists. You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRTNtB9hcY8

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

We are autochthonous people in the Balkans, 🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰✨🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

njegos

pre 5 godina

From Glow: "You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!"

Poor Glow. Did Peggy hurt your feelings? Wah, wah, wah...

Zo

pre 5 godina

Sounds very familiar didn't a muslim extremist by the name of Naser Oric say this about Sarajevo then fled as the mighty Serbian army was making advancements to liberate that whole town???

Lenard

pre 5 godina

"Do you mean like this B 92 moderator". Lenny, are you a little butthurt that they didn't place the airport in Ustashaland???
(Chi, 25 February 2019 22:57) No Chi the Americans use Croatia's Udbina Airport. We have over 60 fully serviceable airport ports way more then Serbia. No I was talking about Air Canada and American Air lines. Will be servicing Croatian cities this year with direct flights from their respective country's to Croatia. That will boost tourism to Croatia and surrounding region. Growth will be exceptional from the already good growth 27% year over year from North America to Croatia.
(Lenard, 26 February 2019 10:23) When I try to answer Serb questions with respect and thoughtfulness. I get nothing but visceral lewdness. You should have a good talk with the Serbs of appropriateness I'm appalled.

DekiM

pre 5 godina

Placing so much importance on yourself when you're not even a real president? The fact is that Kosovo is not a UN member state. You cannot be a president of a province, thus you have no value and shouldn't even bother making such comments.

LOL

pre 5 godina

Wait, wuh?

Isn't Hash the guy who's been PUSHING for Kosovo's partition by giving up the north in exchange for Presevo Valley?

So I guess then that's he's either been diagnosed with a terminal disease, or he's planning on committing suicide? :)

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

While you are at it, would you be so kind as to clarify...is this "staff" commenter actually on staff at b92?

Glow

pre 5 godina

B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I ask that your rules apply to both parties, not just the Albanians!

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!

Glow

pre 5 godina

(jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 17:03

Haha..is that your failed attempt at telling a joke or is your ignorance talking?
Thaqi was a KLA leader in Kosova that your criminals could not keep up with! Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
Get your facts straight if you are to publicly show your "knowledge"!

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Mr Taci is chopping&changing, contradicting himself. But that is fine.
We always knew. *Kosovo&Metohija are the rep Serbia. Deep down.
It's sill

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news!

So it looks like The Republic Of Kosova will indeed be made whole with the addition of Presheva, Medveja, and Bujonavac something that should have happened 2001! However, I would argue that NIS shoud also be included in the deal as a condition also!

Azir

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??

Slavs need not apply ...

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Over his "dead? body" Thaci will be the first running to Albania to hide when the Serbian army rolls in. Thaci was hiding in Albania the entire time Serbia kicked the KLA terrorist out of Kosovo.

B92

pre 5 godina

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,

Staff

pre 5 godina

Maybe it will be like that Hashim. But even if you get let’s say 25 years in prison via the Hague, there are doctors and almost certain also a gym to keep your body fit.

Anyway, the latest from the talks by the big players is that some disagreements are difficult to tie up.

Serbia proper:
-From the river Ibar and north including Zubin Potok. AGREED
-The Trepca mining complex. NOT AGREED
-Gazivoda lake. NOT AGREED
-UN will stay according to 1244 until further notice. AGREED
-There will be Serbian cantons in all Serbian church/monastary places including Patriach of Pec, Decani monastery and all serbian majority villages, enclaves and places. AGREED
-Serbian police in those areas. NOT AGREED
-Kfor will stay to guard those places with international military. (Just like Nato are present in some countries after WW 2.) AGREED
1000 soldiers Mitrovica (Novo Selo). AGREED
600 soldiers Kfor hill Pristina. AGREED
330 soldiers Pec/Peja (I wrote 200 earlier, but that was wrong). AGREED

Albanians will have:
-The rest of Kosovo as a country. AGREED
-Total independence. AGREED
-Membership UN, Unesco etc etc. AGREED
-Presevo town. NOT AGREED (Problems where the border should be).

Aura

pre 5 godina

So the state of play is this. Kosovo is offering to recognise Serbia in return for Serbia recognising Kosovo*. They are offering precisely nothing to get everything.
They refuse to even acknowledge there is a doubt about their independence, where not even the EU recognises them. Where less than half UN members recognise then with numbers dropping regularly. They are not members of the UN.
This is Alice in wonderland time. The albs are completely deluded. They are a danger to the region and the world. Someone very desperately needs to have a word in their shell like.

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Over his "dead? body" Thaci will be the first running to Albania to hide when the Serbian army rolls in. Thaci was hiding in Albania the entire time Serbia kicked the KLA terrorist out of Kosovo.

DekiM

pre 5 godina

Placing so much importance on yourself when you're not even a real president? The fact is that Kosovo is not a UN member state. You cannot be a president of a province, thus you have no value and shouldn't even bother making such comments.

B92

pre 5 godina

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,

Aura

pre 5 godina

So the state of play is this. Kosovo is offering to recognise Serbia in return for Serbia recognising Kosovo*. They are offering precisely nothing to get everything.
They refuse to even acknowledge there is a doubt about their independence, where not even the EU recognises them. Where less than half UN members recognise then with numbers dropping regularly. They are not members of the UN.
This is Alice in wonderland time. The albs are completely deluded. They are a danger to the region and the world. Someone very desperately needs to have a word in their shell like.

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Mr Taci is chopping&changing, contradicting himself. But that is fine.
We always knew. *Kosovo&Metohija are the rep Serbia. Deep down.
It's sill

LOL

pre 5 godina

Wait, wuh?

Isn't Hash the guy who's been PUSHING for Kosovo's partition by giving up the north in exchange for Presevo Valley?

So I guess then that's he's either been diagnosed with a terminal disease, or he's planning on committing suicide? :)

Zo

pre 5 godina

Sounds very familiar didn't a muslim extremist by the name of Naser Oric say this about Sarajevo then fled as the mighty Serbian army was making advancements to liberate that whole town???

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news!

So it looks like The Republic Of Kosova will indeed be made whole with the addition of Presheva, Medveja, and Bujonavac something that should have happened 2001! However, I would argue that NIS shoud also be included in the deal as a condition also!

Glow

pre 5 godina

(jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 17:03

Haha..is that your failed attempt at telling a joke or is your ignorance talking?
Thaqi was a KLA leader in Kosova that your criminals could not keep up with! Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
Get your facts straight if you are to publicly show your "knowledge"!

Glow

pre 5 godina

B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I ask that your rules apply to both parties, not just the Albanians!

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!

Lenard

pre 5 godina

"Do you mean like this B 92 moderator". Lenny, are you a little butthurt that they didn't place the airport in Ustashaland???
(Chi, 25 February 2019 22:57) No Chi the Americans use Croatia's Udbina Airport. We have over 60 fully serviceable airport ports way more then Serbia. No I was talking about Air Canada and American Air lines. Will be servicing Croatian cities this year with direct flights from their respective country's to Croatia. That will boost tourism to Croatia and surrounding region. Growth will be exceptional from the already good growth 27% year over year from North America to Croatia.
(Lenard, 26 February 2019 10:23) When I try to answer Serb questions with respect and thoughtfulness. I get nothing but visceral lewdness. You should have a good talk with the Serbs of appropriateness I'm appalled.

Azir

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??

Slavs need not apply ...

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

While you are at it, would you be so kind as to clarify...is this "staff" commenter actually on staff at b92?

Staff

pre 5 godina

Maybe it will be like that Hashim. But even if you get let’s say 25 years in prison via the Hague, there are doctors and almost certain also a gym to keep your body fit.

Anyway, the latest from the talks by the big players is that some disagreements are difficult to tie up.

Serbia proper:
-From the river Ibar and north including Zubin Potok. AGREED
-The Trepca mining complex. NOT AGREED
-Gazivoda lake. NOT AGREED
-UN will stay according to 1244 until further notice. AGREED
-There will be Serbian cantons in all Serbian church/monastary places including Patriach of Pec, Decani monastery and all serbian majority villages, enclaves and places. AGREED
-Serbian police in those areas. NOT AGREED
-Kfor will stay to guard those places with international military. (Just like Nato are present in some countries after WW 2.) AGREED
1000 soldiers Mitrovica (Novo Selo). AGREED
600 soldiers Kfor hill Pristina. AGREED
330 soldiers Pec/Peja (I wrote 200 earlier, but that was wrong). AGREED

Albanians will have:
-The rest of Kosovo as a country. AGREED
-Total independence. AGREED
-Membership UN, Unesco etc etc. AGREED
-Presevo town. NOT AGREED (Problems where the border should be).

B92

pre 5 godina

@ Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?

@ Serbian Psychiatrist
Thank you for pointing out to the comment in question. We find that it was not aimed at any specific participant in the conversation. However, we discourage this type of language as unconstructive and will apply more strict moderation in future.

@ Clarification please
If you have any suspicion and/or proof of this (we don't), our recommendation is to take it up with the management of the website.


Thank you everyone for reading our stories and commenting on them, and to those who engaged in this particular conversation.

Regards,

B92

sj

pre 5 godina

(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

If it has not dawned on you yet B92 is a Serbian based media site. Now I don’t speak for B92, but on my part if you’re not happy go to an Albanian site.
For years I have said that after WW2 US became an empire and empires have no friends. They are using Albanians in Kosovo for only one purpose that is to their advantage. What have they done to improve living standards in Kosovo? NOTHING.

While I appreciate debate based on facts the vast majority of your Albanians try and pass off their opinions and views as facts starting from being IIyrians to being indigenous to the Balkans and so on.
After many people pointing out that these are not facts, they continue to post nonsense. Now I am not a psychiatrist or a mental health worker to clearly define any mental health issues, but I am reasonably intelligent to assess that if you repeat the same error over and over again there is something very wrong with you.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 3 March 2019 23:23)
At various points in time peoples came to Europe and settled there. There is NO evidence that Albos were there before anyone. Since you mention Serbs and Turks I can take liberty to include Greeks as well since according to some of your semiliterate brethren Classical Greek stems from Albanian.
A good academic may have theories on a subject write numerous books, work all their teaching life to prove their theory, give lectures on the subject, but he/she will never claim their theory is fact unless there is irrefutable evidence to substantiate that it’s not a theory, but fact.
All ancient writings mention the tribes of Illyria but these people left no written language so there is no proof that Alboism is Illyrian.
All ancient structures in Kosovo do not belong to Albos; they are either Celtic, Greek, Roman, Turkish and Serbian. Its fact not a dream.
You’re like Croats; another dim people, who claim being indigenous and yet records show they only arrived in the 7th Century.
Your Albo “archaeologists” might be spruiking this indigenous rubbish but the rest of academia does not.
Serbs do not make ridiculous claims about their history but its only people that have no culture that make it up as they go along. You people need to attend a real university not clown colleges in Pristina or Tirana. Well, there is the American University where your chief clown Haradjin did his MBA - “text” books must have had plenty of pictures in them.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow, if the KLA was so good and was defeating the Serbian forces why did they need Nato's help?
If truth be told the KLA would have been wiped out without Nato.
Deep down you know that Kosovo forces were never a match for Serbia, and that is true today as well. But I guess its good for morale to grossly overestimate ones abilities (a bit like Eagle eye declaring that there are 27 million Albanians in the world..!?!).

Peggy

pre 5 godina

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 18:15)
=============================
Well, that might depend on just how nasty you got.
Judging by the comments which make it though from Albanians, yours must be real gems not to make it thought.

Insult-free posts

pre 5 godina

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders. (Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

I am happy to read this insult-free post. Very refreshing to my soul!

LOL

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??
(Azir, 1 March 2019 17:34)

See, here's the problem with that, Big Boy: all "Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands" are already owned by Albanians. The problem we face is that there's too goddamned many of you inhabiting and infesting the historical homelands of other people.

So kindly get out of Kosovo, Macedonia, Presevo, and Northern Epirus (Albanian occupied Greece).

It can only improve those lands.

Hee Haw,

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

...or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.
(Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

(Insult-free posts, 2 March 2019 20:30)

Exactly! Hypocrisy at its best!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:35)

Fact#1: My post didn’t insult or personally attack anyone.
Fact#2: Glow doesn’t even realize that a KLA criminal terrorist leader confessed that he and his ghetto are “isolated”!
https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2018&mm=01&dd=29&nav_id=103372
Fact#3: Glow denies KLA terrorist Haradinaj’s recent quote from a US news article: “Kosovo residents remain "in a ghetto,"”
https://www.foxnews.com/world/eu-urges-kosovo-to-drop-tariffs-as-political-tensions-mount
Fact#4: The KLA was classified as a terrorist organization by the USA and UNSC in UNSCR resolution 1160, and is listed as a terrorist organization by the MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base.
Fact1+2+3+4= Glow denies “exact” facts with “unexact” claims of insult and hypocrisy.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 17:31)

Watching too many mickey mouse cartoons....KLA couldn't move an inch into Kosovo, Pavkovic obliterated the terrorists. You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRTNtB9hcY8

Avni

pre 5 godina

Cilj pregovora je priznanje nezavisnosti Kosova

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=03&dd=02&nav_category=640&nav_id=1511939

Glow

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!

njegos

pre 5 godina

From Glow: "You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!"

Poor Glow. Did Peggy hurt your feelings? Wah, wah, wah...

Ataman

pre 5 godina

This clear message is not coming only from Thaqi personally but all of Kosova and Albania! 🇽🇰🇦🇱
(Glow, 1 March 2019 16:59

It is a bad omen for an Albanian to start an argument referring to Thaçi as "Thaqi".

Hilarious

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals. (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 1 March 2019 22:06)

Hilarious! Funniest post I have read in months!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Thaci should accept the American deal Trump said to settle Kosovo therefore Thaci should not make such comment America decided have Kosovo fate Not the Albanians. They know that but the Albanians alway lie when come to politics.

Glow

pre 5 godina

@Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?
-----------------------------------
And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being?
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42
-----------------------------------

When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
But this next one was posted which tells me that your rules are one-sided!

---------------------------------
And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being? 
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42) 

🤣 You are a "class act"!
(Glow, 25 February 2019 13:24)

Peggy

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18
=======================
Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

They will never let this change
(BLACK EAGLE, 3 March 2019 11:22)
========================
They let go of Syria when they saw the writing on the wall.
They will let go of you too.

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)

The problem with people like you, who believe that it was wonderful during Tito’s time, live in fantasy and as time moves on it becomes greater and greater much like the fisherman and the catch that got away.
Tito murdered thousands that even looked sideways. This Titoistic myth of living in harmony is just that; pure BS.
I always like to tell the story of a friend of the family who passed away years ago. Her husband was an engineer and he was posted outside Rijeka for several months on a project. So, she decided to visit him with their baby son but had to make can overnight stop in Zagreb before continuing the journey. She went to restaurant and asked for Supa and Helb. The waiter was a Serb who warned her not to use those works in Croatia otherwise she could easily disappear. That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

We are autochthonous people in the Balkans, 🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰✨🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.

Serbian Psychiatrist

pre 5 godina

Some people are prone to idiocy and psychiatric treatment, in combination with medication, occasionally does help. As I said anyone who believes that the US is in Kosovo for the betterment of Albos is an idiot. (sj, 1 March 2019 09:52)

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Seeing that you posted this comment - among many other abusive ones from sj - I think it would be more accurate to qualify that statement. I suggest something like this:

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

USA will never allow you to do this. They don't want a big country on the Balkans. They want many small and week countries, so they can easily control them. And also Albania and Kosovo are maybe the biggest american base in Europe. They will never let this change

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:56)
===========================
That's all I need with you.
Buddy, this is a public forum and I can answer any comment I wish. Don't like it, take it up with the moderators.
Oh yes, you already have asked them to help you out.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)
======================
C'mon B92, this one's just too juicy to pass up.
Let me pleeeeeez.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, all the known surviving scripts and literature pertaining to Illyrian etymology for names, regions and bodies of water, are directly translated using ONLY the Albanian Illyrian language. The Albanoi were a documented tribe of Illyrians that inhabited precisely the same land area (Albanopolis) that Albanians inhabit today. Do you honestly think these are just some random coincidences that haradinaj invented in order to make you feel bad? forget about Albanian archaeologists, we are talking about international scholars from various fields in all universities have concluded that Albanians are the illyrians. the very few of the worlds scholars that don't subscribe to the illyrian theory, rather place Albanians as descendants of dacians or thracians or even coming from all three of those ancient peoples...either way, your argument regarding Albanian presence in the peninsula are null and void and completely out of touch with reality. And yes, we do understand that this behavior of feigned ignorance is nothing more .than an act. you of all people know better than anyone that Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians and indigenous to the region

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.
(sj, 5 March 2019 08:09
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Exactly right. If Croats felt like our brothers and sisters they wouldn't have been preparing for a civil war before the 90s by arming themselves.
In the late 70s I think it was around 12 Croatians from Australia went to Yugoslavia to start a revolution.
I'm sure you are aware of Croatian churches and clubs which had pictures of Ante Pavelic on the the walls. I saw all that. I had a misfortune to go to a Croatian church for a wedding and attended some of their dances because I knew some Croatians. Even though they were fine with me I felt the hatred for Serbs once inside and never went again. This was people who came to Australia and continued with hatred.
If the rotten 12 who went there didn't think they had plenty of support they wouldn't have gone there. Remember the Croatian terrorist training camp in the 70s as well?
The hatred never ended so I don't know what this Tito guy is talking about. Any peace was kept by force while Tito was alive but as soon as he died it all went downhill. Leaders could not call so many to arms if there was brotherhood and unity.

zoe

pre 5 godina

I dont care what USA or World will do, because many of us(kosovars) wont stay and fight in order to protect our lands against Serbia, Russia and USA. Seems history repeats itself.

Glow

pre 5 godina

You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors.
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 20:25)

Warriors? Did you mean to say criminals that are being sought by the International War Crimes Justice for their killings of innocent civilians when they could not keep up with KLA! You are aware that 85% of the victims of Kosova war were innocent civilians, right?
Those "warriors" are living in the hiding as they know that they are on borrowed time!

I hope this comment gets posted!

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you are posting blatant lies. can you name any sources within any international academic circles that support your idea of Albanians not being indigenous? just that alone shows your total disregard for reality. you are literally making things up out of sheer spite, or envy, not really sure. either way, it shows you are out of control with fantasy propaganda in order to justify your immoral and illegal claims over the Albanian land Dardania. Albanians are indeed the oldest indigenous population of not only kosova, but the entire peninsula. Albanians have inhabited these lands LONG before the ottoman turks and serb invasions. this is a fact of history which Albanians will never allow to be changed. so now you know that it would require wiping out any trace of Albanians as a people in order to achieve such a thing. serbia is on record of trying to do just that which anyone can read at serbian academy of sciences and arts archives

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

[link]
(Avni, 2 March 2019 19:15
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Avni,
This is an English site and not everyone understand Serbian or Albanian so could you please post comments from a Serbian site on Serbian site. We, who speak Serbian are capable enough to go to a Serbian version of B92 if we wish.
Posting a link to a site is a different story but don't assume everyone can understand your comment unless it is in English.
It is quite annoying and I am sure many, including me will just skip over it anyway.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:42)
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Are you sure you are being just on this occasion?
Srebrenica was an act of revenge on what happened around Srebrenica prior. Don't forget the thousands of Serbian victims slaughtered by Naser Oric's gang. This slaughter was of women and children as well which didn't happen to the Muslims. Their women and children were put on busses and allowed to leave. No such mercy for Serbian women and children around Srebrenica.
Please don't make it sound like Serbs woke up one morning and decided to kill men and boys of Srebrenica because they felt like a bit of sport. Anger at what happened to their own was a powerful motivator and yes, as much as they were both victims the Serbs were the primary victims which nobody wants to acknowledge.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.
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That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.
(Clarification please, 1 March 2019 21:10)

- "Staff" wrote on multiple occasions that he is not Serb. It is very unlikely B92 would employ a non-Serb (think employment permits).

- It is not customary to invite journalists to insider political meetings or workgroups - only if there is something to say for the general public.
An other reason why it is very unlikely that "Staff" does work for B92.

- "Staff" may also mean, he works for instance for UNMIK or EULEX (unlikely). Most likely is, that he just pulls our leg.

- If I would work for UNMIK (or other political organization) I would never risk my job by revealing some insider information untimely.
However, B92 can't stop "Staff" doing what he does - because there is no strong enough proof him NOT being an insider.

I find your post very interesting: you ask a Serbian news channel to do something of your likening (i.e. ban "Staff" if he is working for B92).
That means you are trusting them. Which in a twist means: you hopefully will restrain yourself from endless anti-Serbian rants.
Why ask someone's favor or trust their judgement being fair if you hate them?

Peggy

pre 5 godina

My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war.
(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)
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Then I assume that your personal enemy would have been Croatian, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanian leaderships.

Let's not forget that people jumped at the chance to have their own country where they thought they would be the boss.

You see, Serbian politicians did not start anything. Serbia never declared a civil war on anyone but only reacted to the war already declared by Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanians.
Slovenia seceded and not a shot was fired and nobody killed.

How come Croatia instead of negotiating and taking Serbian interests into consideration (as was a constitutional requirement) armed themselves secretly by smuggling arms through Hungarian border?
After WW2 Croatian border were adjusted in Croatia's interest. Serbs were on that land longer than Croatians but Croatia decided they will keep it.
Bosnians Muslims didn't have the right to control all of Bosnia, or did they? What do you think? They made that decision at Serbs' expense.
K-Albanians rose greatly in numbers after WW2. A little present from Tito by not controlling the border with Albanian so much.
But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:15)

Croats had a hall in western Sydney, I think it was in the suburb of St Marys and outside it had written “No dogs or Serbs allowed inside”.
Then on one occasion that I am aware during the 1990s at the King Tomislav Hall Edensor Park, Sydney, they were cutting up pig on a spit and one Croat grabbed an axe saying as he cut its head off “this is what we will do to the Serbs” to the roar and applause of the entire crowd.
And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.
(Peggy)
100.000s of serbs had to leave their homes because of the mindset of nationalists, without the war of the cetniks, ustasha, kla and mudjehadins there would have been no war in the 90s and many would still live in their homes not only serbs.
Bosnia is the example that no side was better than the other, almost all areas are now either bosnian, croatian or serbian and the others are not there anymore.
Of course Tito will not be back, but that does not mean we have to hate the others forever. We are all the same.
My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war. I have no problems to move for the time of war away with my family as anyway we live in 2 countries but many do not have this luxury.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30)
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That happens to me as well but when it does I know that the comment hasn't gone though and I write it again.
Sometimes I have to go back to the article and post from the comment section there instead of from the comment section once in the actual comment section.
It will go through eventually. It might take two or three goes at it.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.
(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:06)
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I'm still waiting for you to declare yourself on this one.
Losing hope.
It's so big of you to talk about everyone being equal and loving one another. It's a beautiful dream and nothing would make me happier if it ever came to be but I live in the real world.
So how about something a little more difficult like answering that question honestly.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!
(Glow, 4 March 2019 17:11)

But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians. I, too, believe like most people here that Zhukov = Rote.

There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree. I am Russian, by the way, too - and that was proven many times. That does not prevent me to disagree with Rote.

But what you write won't help you.

There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help.
But you do just that.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18)

But how about Washington DC, Moscow, Budapest? And don't forget Bibi either. These days fascism is "in". And apparently it's OK to post here on B92 using a nick "Aqif Blyta". (Hello Tom!)

B92 should be clear: holocaust denial = nazi (fascist is way to nice word for that). Apparently some idiots don't mind to use a nazi nick just to have fun and see how angry others can be.

Personally I don't believe these idiots are nazis - they just pulling the leg and tease. This is not a good tease and it has to be stopped at the roots, instantly.

This is why Jasenovac, Bor, Auschwitz, Mauthausen should have "holy cow" status: you touch that topic improperly, you are out.

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

Nope.

I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.

What you do is trolling and provocation by intent, also violating all the rules by intent, not because you are upset.

An over-extended ego and evil motivations have nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs or whatever.

You just merely use the existing conflict to elevate your ego.

If "sj" or whoever calls you names, he is right by default - even if his statements otherwise would be 100% wrong.

I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30

I appreciate you trying to explain why all my comments don't get posted but the reality is very different!
There are certain truth-heavy comments that don't make it thru, and it's not just insults or things of that nature! It is not my fault the Serbia's history is so criminal and that my facts and evidence is deemed inappropriate when trying to prove my point!

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?
(Peggy)
As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?...

Ataman

pre 5 godina

When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:31)

Many of my apolitical comments aren't posted either. And sometimes the posting does not happen (the web site returns to default state) for no apparent reason. Sometimes it helps if I remove quotes or use single ones (') instead of double ("). Sometimes re-writing everything and using the tinyurl.com to compress the url helps.

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

'I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.'

Examples?

'I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.' (Ataman, 4 March 2019 08:31)

PS - You are my favorite commenter!

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.
(sj, 6 March 2019 09:55)
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Of course it is. It's a wonderful dream but can never become reality. Croats are still stuck in the Nazi Ustasha era even today. We can see the depth of loathing from Albanians on this site and maybe the only ones who might want to reconcile might be Bosnian Muslims but only if Wahhabbi influence is kicked out of Bosnia. That's a real concern now.
Here in Melbourne there was a Croatian priest whose surname was Kasic. As a member of clergy you would think he would look at things differently but he was the most loyal Ustasha.
I suppose he took example from the clergy from WW2 who participated in killing Serbs. Not only blessing the killers but were killers themselves.
There is no hope for people like that. Yes, exceptions do occur and there are some good Croatians who are trying to move on and embrace all but sadly they don't seem to make a dint.

Wasting time

pre 5 godina

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?... (Tito reloaded, 5 March 2019 10:53)

I agree with you entirely. But I don't think you will make any progress with a commenter who has a binary view of the world and lacks fundamental virtues.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

"But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians."

Agreed that he is Russian. But his posts are endless rants against Albanians.

"There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree."

I also agree with you.

"There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help. But you do just that." (Ataman, 6 March 2019 15:46)

LOL

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Over his "dead? body" Thaci will be the first running to Albania to hide when the Serbian army rolls in. Thaci was hiding in Albania the entire time Serbia kicked the KLA terrorist out of Kosovo.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Great news!

So it looks like The Republic Of Kosova will indeed be made whole with the addition of Presheva, Medveja, and Bujonavac something that should have happened 2001! However, I would argue that NIS shoud also be included in the deal as a condition also!

Staff

pre 5 godina

Maybe it will be like that Hashim. But even if you get let’s say 25 years in prison via the Hague, there are doctors and almost certain also a gym to keep your body fit.

Anyway, the latest from the talks by the big players is that some disagreements are difficult to tie up.

Serbia proper:
-From the river Ibar and north including Zubin Potok. AGREED
-The Trepca mining complex. NOT AGREED
-Gazivoda lake. NOT AGREED
-UN will stay according to 1244 until further notice. AGREED
-There will be Serbian cantons in all Serbian church/monastary places including Patriach of Pec, Decani monastery and all serbian majority villages, enclaves and places. AGREED
-Serbian police in those areas. NOT AGREED
-Kfor will stay to guard those places with international military. (Just like Nato are present in some countries after WW 2.) AGREED
1000 soldiers Mitrovica (Novo Selo). AGREED
600 soldiers Kfor hill Pristina. AGREED
330 soldiers Pec/Peja (I wrote 200 earlier, but that was wrong). AGREED

Albanians will have:
-The rest of Kosovo as a country. AGREED
-Total independence. AGREED
-Membership UN, Unesco etc etc. AGREED
-Presevo town. NOT AGREED (Problems where the border should be).

Glow

pre 5 godina

(jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 17:03

Haha..is that your failed attempt at telling a joke or is your ignorance talking?
Thaqi was a KLA leader in Kosova that your criminals could not keep up with! Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
Get your facts straight if you are to publicly show your "knowledge"!

Glow

pre 5 godina

B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I ask that your rules apply to both parties, not just the Albanians!

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!

Aura

pre 5 godina

So the state of play is this. Kosovo is offering to recognise Serbia in return for Serbia recognising Kosovo*. They are offering precisely nothing to get everything.
They refuse to even acknowledge there is a doubt about their independence, where not even the EU recognises them. Where less than half UN members recognise then with numbers dropping regularly. They are not members of the UN.
This is Alice in wonderland time. The albs are completely deluded. They are a danger to the region and the world. Someone very desperately needs to have a word in their shell like.

Azir

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??

Slavs need not apply ...

DekiM

pre 5 godina

Placing so much importance on yourself when you're not even a real president? The fact is that Kosovo is not a UN member state. You cannot be a president of a province, thus you have no value and shouldn't even bother making such comments.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

"Do you mean like this B 92 moderator". Lenny, are you a little butthurt that they didn't place the airport in Ustashaland???
(Chi, 25 February 2019 22:57) No Chi the Americans use Croatia's Udbina Airport. We have over 60 fully serviceable airport ports way more then Serbia. No I was talking about Air Canada and American Air lines. Will be servicing Croatian cities this year with direct flights from their respective country's to Croatia. That will boost tourism to Croatia and surrounding region. Growth will be exceptional from the already good growth 27% year over year from North America to Croatia.
(Lenard, 26 February 2019 10:23) When I try to answer Serb questions with respect and thoughtfulness. I get nothing but visceral lewdness. You should have a good talk with the Serbs of appropriateness I'm appalled.

Zo

pre 5 godina

Sounds very familiar didn't a muslim extremist by the name of Naser Oric say this about Sarajevo then fled as the mighty Serbian army was making advancements to liberate that whole town???

Ljiljana

pre 5 godina

Mr Taci is chopping&changing, contradicting himself. But that is fine.
We always knew. *Kosovo&Metohija are the rep Serbia. Deep down.
It's sill

LOL

pre 5 godina

Wait, wuh?

Isn't Hash the guy who's been PUSHING for Kosovo's partition by giving up the north in exchange for Presevo Valley?

So I guess then that's he's either been diagnosed with a terminal disease, or he's planning on committing suicide? :)

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

While you are at it, would you be so kind as to clarify...is this "staff" commenter actually on staff at b92?

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu

sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 3 March 2019 23:23)
At various points in time peoples came to Europe and settled there. There is NO evidence that Albos were there before anyone. Since you mention Serbs and Turks I can take liberty to include Greeks as well since according to some of your semiliterate brethren Classical Greek stems from Albanian.
A good academic may have theories on a subject write numerous books, work all their teaching life to prove their theory, give lectures on the subject, but he/she will never claim their theory is fact unless there is irrefutable evidence to substantiate that it’s not a theory, but fact.
All ancient writings mention the tribes of Illyria but these people left no written language so there is no proof that Alboism is Illyrian.
All ancient structures in Kosovo do not belong to Albos; they are either Celtic, Greek, Roman, Turkish and Serbian. Its fact not a dream.
You’re like Croats; another dim people, who claim being indigenous and yet records show they only arrived in the 7th Century.
Your Albo “archaeologists” might be spruiking this indigenous rubbish but the rest of academia does not.
Serbs do not make ridiculous claims about their history but its only people that have no culture that make it up as they go along. You people need to attend a real university not clown colleges in Pristina or Tirana. Well, there is the American University where your chief clown Haradjin did his MBA - “text” books must have had plenty of pictures in them.

Glow

pre 5 godina

@Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?
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And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being?
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42
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When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
But this next one was posted which tells me that your rules are one-sided!

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And you're a great example of what an idiot is. Point being? 
(Peggy, 24 February 2019 23:42) 

🤣 You are a "class act"!
(Glow, 25 February 2019 13:24)

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

USA will never allow you to do this. They don't want a big country on the Balkans. They want many small and week countries, so they can easily control them. And also Albania and Kosovo are maybe the biggest american base in Europe. They will never let this change

Glow

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!

sj

pre 5 godina

(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

If it has not dawned on you yet B92 is a Serbian based media site. Now I don’t speak for B92, but on my part if you’re not happy go to an Albanian site.
For years I have said that after WW2 US became an empire and empires have no friends. They are using Albanians in Kosovo for only one purpose that is to their advantage. What have they done to improve living standards in Kosovo? NOTHING.

While I appreciate debate based on facts the vast majority of your Albanians try and pass off their opinions and views as facts starting from being IIyrians to being indigenous to the Balkans and so on.
After many people pointing out that these are not facts, they continue to post nonsense. Now I am not a psychiatrist or a mental health worker to clearly define any mental health issues, but I am reasonably intelligent to assess that if you repeat the same error over and over again there is something very wrong with you.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

...or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.
(Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

(Insult-free posts, 2 March 2019 20:30)

Exactly! Hypocrisy at its best!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:35)

Fact#1: My post didn’t insult or personally attack anyone.
Fact#2: Glow doesn’t even realize that a KLA criminal terrorist leader confessed that he and his ghetto are “isolated”!
https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2018&mm=01&dd=29&nav_id=103372
Fact#3: Glow denies KLA terrorist Haradinaj’s recent quote from a US news article: “Kosovo residents remain "in a ghetto,"”
https://www.foxnews.com/world/eu-urges-kosovo-to-drop-tariffs-as-political-tensions-mount
Fact#4: The KLA was classified as a terrorist organization by the USA and UNSC in UNSCR resolution 1160, and is listed as a terrorist organization by the MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base.
Fact1+2+3+4= Glow denies “exact” facts with “unexact” claims of insult and hypocrisy.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 5 godina

We are autochthonous people in the Balkans, 🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰✨🇽🇰🇽🇰🇽🇰🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

Peggy

pre 5 godina

P.S.
You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 18:15)
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Well, that might depend on just how nasty you got.
Judging by the comments which make it though from Albanians, yours must be real gems not to make it thought.

njegos

pre 5 godina

From Glow: "You have Peggy call me an idiot in one of her comments and when I reply to her, my comment does not get posted! I am very well aware of unfairness being played here!"

Poor Glow. Did Peggy hurt your feelings? Wah, wah, wah...

Serbian Psychiatrist

pre 5 godina

Some people are prone to idiocy and psychiatric treatment, in combination with medication, occasionally does help. As I said anyone who believes that the US is in Kosovo for the betterment of Albos is an idiot. (sj, 1 March 2019 09:52)

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Seeing that you posted this comment - among many other abusive ones from sj - I think it would be more accurate to qualify that statement. I suggest something like this:

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?

Avni

pre 5 godina

Cilj pregovora je priznanje nezavisnosti Kosova

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=03&dd=02&nav_category=640&nav_id=1511939

zoe

pre 5 godina

I dont care what USA or World will do, because many of us(kosovars) wont stay and fight in order to protect our lands against Serbia, Russia and USA. Seems history repeats itself.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.
(Peggy)
100.000s of serbs had to leave their homes because of the mindset of nationalists, without the war of the cetniks, ustasha, kla and mudjehadins there would have been no war in the 90s and many would still live in their homes not only serbs.
Bosnia is the example that no side was better than the other, almost all areas are now either bosnian, croatian or serbian and the others are not there anymore.
Of course Tito will not be back, but that does not mean we have to hate the others forever. We are all the same.
My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war. I have no problems to move for the time of war away with my family as anyway we live in 2 countries but many do not have this luxury.

Zhukov

pre 5 godina

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders.

@Blue

pre 5 godina

Thaci should accept the American deal Trump said to settle Kosovo therefore Thaci should not make such comment America decided have Kosovo fate Not the Albanians. They know that but the Albanians alway lie when come to politics.

Insult-free posts

pre 5 godina

The assumption is that B92’s ban on personal insults will be applied without bias. It will be refreshing to rid this forum of personal attacks against any politician be he from Serbia’s capital Belgrade or from any remote Serbian corner including fenced-in ghettos harboring NATO-protected criminal terrorist gangleaders. (Zhukov, 2 March 2019 05:38)

I am happy to read this insult-free post. Very refreshing to my soul!

B92

pre 5 godina

We kindly ask our readers, who contribute to our stories with their comments, not to offer psychiatric diagnoses to other participants in the conversation, or engage in any other kind of personal attacks and insults in order to get their (opposing) point of view across.

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.

As our regular commenters are aware, we enforce our own rules to the minimum with the intent of giving everyone as much freedom as possible to express themselves, but some lines will not be crossed.

We would also appreciate a note in the comments, in case personal insults do go unnoticed by our moderators.


Regards,

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Serbia's cowards started killing innocent civilians after they were being defeated by KLA!
(Glow, 1 March 2019 17:31)

Watching too many mickey mouse cartoons....KLA couldn't move an inch into Kosovo, Pavkovic obliterated the terrorists. You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRTNtB9hcY8

Clarification please

pre 5 godina

Regards, (B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Atina -- Zamenik pomoćnika državnog sekretara SAD Metju Palmer izjavio je da "u pregovorima Srbije i Kosova reč nije o tome da li će da se promene granice ili neće.

[link]
(Avni, 2 March 2019 19:15
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Avni,
This is an English site and not everyone understand Serbian or Albanian so could you please post comments from a Serbian site on Serbian site. We, who speak Serbian are capable enough to go to a Serbian version of B92 if we wish.
Posting a link to a site is a different story but don't assume everyone can understand your comment unless it is in English.
It is quite annoying and I am sure many, including me will just skip over it anyway.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

"Even if you are a mental health professional, unless you are a Serb nationalist you will not be allowed to play a psychiatrist on this website."

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)
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C'mon B92, this one's just too juicy to pass up.
Let me pleeeeeez.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?
(Peggy)
As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?...

LOL

pre 5 godina

All Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands will be liberated ,rehabilitated and reunited in the EU and NATO!??
(Azir, 1 March 2019 17:34)

See, here's the problem with that, Big Boy: all "Indigenous Shqiptare historical inhabitated homelands" are already owned by Albanians. The problem we face is that there's too goddamned many of you inhabiting and infesting the historical homelands of other people.

So kindly get out of Kosovo, Macedonia, Presevo, and Northern Epirus (Albanian occupied Greece).

It can only improve those lands.

Hee Haw,

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Glow, if the KLA was so good and was defeating the Serbian forces why did they need Nato's help?
If truth be told the KLA would have been wiped out without Nato.
Deep down you know that Kosovo forces were never a match for Serbia, and that is true today as well. But I guess its good for morale to grossly overestimate ones abilities (a bit like Eagle eye declaring that there are 27 million Albanians in the world..!?!).

Ataman

pre 5 godina

This clear message is not coming only from Thaqi personally but all of Kosova and Albania! 🇽🇰🇦🇱
(Glow, 1 March 2019 16:59

It is a bad omen for an Albanian to start an argument referring to Thaçi as "Thaqi".

Glow

pre 5 godina

You really think Albanian drug runners and terrorists are a match for Serbian warriors.
(Jugoslavija, 1 March 2019 20:25)

Warriors? Did you mean to say criminals that are being sought by the International War Crimes Justice for their killings of innocent civilians when they could not keep up with KLA! You are aware that 85% of the victims of Kosova war were innocent civilians, right?
Those "warriors" are living in the hiding as they know that they are on borrowed time!

I hope this comment gets posted!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18
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Stick to whatever you wish but Tito will never be back.
Tito was the worst thing for Serbia. Good for Albanians and Croats but a nightmare for Serbs.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

'I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.'

Examples?

'I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.' (Ataman, 4 March 2019 08:31)

PS - You are my favorite commenter!

Glow

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, all the known surviving scripts and literature pertaining to Illyrian etymology for names, regions and bodies of water, are directly translated using ONLY the Albanian Illyrian language. The Albanoi were a documented tribe of Illyrians that inhabited precisely the same land area (Albanopolis) that Albanians inhabit today. Do you honestly think these are just some random coincidences that haradinaj invented in order to make you feel bad? forget about Albanian archaeologists, we are talking about international scholars from various fields in all universities have concluded that Albanians are the illyrians. the very few of the worlds scholars that don't subscribe to the illyrian theory, rather place Albanians as descendants of dacians or thracians or even coming from all three of those ancient peoples...either way, your argument regarding Albanian presence in the peninsula are null and void and completely out of touch with reality. And yes, we do understand that this behavior of feigned ignorance is nothing more .than an act. you of all people know better than anyone that Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians and indigenous to the region

Glow

pre 5 godina

Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30

I appreciate you trying to explain why all my comments don't get posted but the reality is very different!
There are certain truth-heavy comments that don't make it thru, and it's not just insults or things of that nature! It is not my fault the Serbia's history is so criminal and that my facts and evidence is deemed inappropriate when trying to prove my point!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

(Zhukov, 4 March 2019 13:28

🤣🤣🤣..Stay in your isolated Serbia or whatever country has sheltered you! There is a thing called REALITY that every serbian tries to avoid at all cost on daily basis! They do that for survival!
(Glow, 4 March 2019 17:11)

But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians. I, too, believe like most people here that Zhukov = Rote.

There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree. I am Russian, by the way, too - and that was proven many times. That does not prevent me to disagree with Rote.

But what you write won't help you.

There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help.
But you do just that.

B92

pre 5 godina

@ Glow
Could you please copy and then paste here the permalink to the offending comment?

@ Serbian Psychiatrist
Thank you for pointing out to the comment in question. We find that it was not aimed at any specific participant in the conversation. However, we discourage this type of language as unconstructive and will apply more strict moderation in future.

@ Clarification please
If you have any suspicion and/or proof of this (we don't), our recommendation is to take it up with the management of the website.


Thank you everyone for reading our stories and commenting on them, and to those who engaged in this particular conversation.

Regards,

B92

Hilarious

pre 5 godina

Even if you are a mental health professional, you will not be allowed to play one on this website.
Regards,
(B92, 1 March 2019 16:13)

Thank you for your rare guidance. Please do clarify: Is B92 policy now to allow comments from those "playing" mental health patients, but not those who may offer qualified explanations for blatantly deranged posts?
If you are going to moderate the commentary, then please consider censoring the lunatics in addition to the health care professionals. (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 1 March 2019 22:06)

Hilarious! Funniest post I have read in months!

Ataman

pre 5 godina

I think it is a fair question to ask: is "staff" actually on staff at b92?

If so, it is extremely unprofessional to publish articles and then allow an insider to repeatedly make comments about them.

If not, he should be encouraged to stop posing as something he is not.

I look forward to your generous response.
(Clarification please, 1 March 2019 21:10)

- "Staff" wrote on multiple occasions that he is not Serb. It is very unlikely B92 would employ a non-Serb (think employment permits).

- It is not customary to invite journalists to insider political meetings or workgroups - only if there is something to say for the general public.
An other reason why it is very unlikely that "Staff" does work for B92.

- "Staff" may also mean, he works for instance for UNMIK or EULEX (unlikely). Most likely is, that he just pulls our leg.

- If I would work for UNMIK (or other political organization) I would never risk my job by revealing some insider information untimely.
However, B92 can't stop "Staff" doing what he does - because there is no strong enough proof him NOT being an insider.

I find your post very interesting: you ask a Serbian news channel to do something of your likening (i.e. ban "Staff" if he is working for B92).
That means you are trusting them. Which in a twist means: you hopefully will restrain yourself from endless anti-Serbian rants.
Why ask someone's favor or trust their judgement being fair if you hate them?

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you are posting blatant lies. can you name any sources within any international academic circles that support your idea of Albanians not being indigenous? just that alone shows your total disregard for reality. you are literally making things up out of sheer spite, or envy, not really sure. either way, it shows you are out of control with fantasy propaganda in order to justify your immoral and illegal claims over the Albanian land Dardania. Albanians are indeed the oldest indigenous population of not only kosova, but the entire peninsula. Albanians have inhabited these lands LONG before the ottoman turks and serb invasions. this is a fact of history which Albanians will never allow to be changed. so now you know that it would require wiping out any trace of Albanians as a people in order to achieve such a thing. serbia is on record of trying to do just that which anyone can read at serbian academy of sciences and arts archives

Ataman

pre 5 godina

Does that sound about right?
(Serbian Psychiatrist, 2 March 2019 14:09)

Nope.

I believe, you are the main troll of B92 and not a self-proclaimed "Serbian Psychiatrist".

You crossed the line called "Holocaust" on multiple occasions.

What you do is trolling and provocation by intent, also violating all the rules by intent, not because you are upset.

An over-extended ego and evil motivations have nothing to do with Albanians or Serbs or whatever.

You just merely use the existing conflict to elevate your ego.

If "sj" or whoever calls you names, he is right by default - even if his statements otherwise would be 100% wrong.

I don't want to participate in conflict with you or talk to you. This comment is to your comment about B92, I am rather addressing them than you.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:42)
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Are you sure you are being just on this occasion?
Srebrenica was an act of revenge on what happened around Srebrenica prior. Don't forget the thousands of Serbian victims slaughtered by Naser Oric's gang. This slaughter was of women and children as well which didn't happen to the Muslims. Their women and children were put on busses and allowed to leave. No such mercy for Serbian women and children around Srebrenica.
Please don't make it sound like Serbs woke up one morning and decided to kill men and boys of Srebrenica because they felt like a bit of sport. Anger at what happened to their own was a powerful motivator and yes, as much as they were both victims the Serbs were the primary victims which nobody wants to acknowledge.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

No insult but the sad truth.
In Belgrade and Pristina there are fascist governments at power.
And I stick to: Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu
(Tito reloaded, 3 March 2019 17:18)

But how about Washington DC, Moscow, Budapest? And don't forget Bibi either. These days fascism is "in". And apparently it's OK to post here on B92 using a nick "Aqif Blyta". (Hello Tom!)

B92 should be clear: holocaust denial = nazi (fascist is way to nice word for that). Apparently some idiots don't mind to use a nazi nick just to have fun and see how angry others can be.

Personally I don't believe these idiots are nazis - they just pulling the leg and tease. This is not a good tease and it has to be stopped at the roots, instantly.

This is why Jasenovac, Bor, Auschwitz, Mauthausen should have "holy cow" status: you touch that topic improperly, you are out.

Just to be just: Srebrenica, too, by the way. One wrong does not justify the other.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

They will never let this change
(BLACK EAGLE, 3 March 2019 11:22)
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They let go of Syria when they saw the writing on the wall.
They will let go of you too.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Peggy, 2 March 2019 06:51

My comment was not even directed at you but as always when you can't speak on politics, you try to attack people with your one line comments!
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:56)
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That's all I need with you.
Buddy, this is a public forum and I can answer any comment I wish. Don't like it, take it up with the moderators.
Oh yes, you already have asked them to help you out.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

My personal enemy is not the other side it is the government that would send my children to war.
(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)
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Then I assume that your personal enemy would have been Croatian, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanian leaderships.

Let's not forget that people jumped at the chance to have their own country where they thought they would be the boss.

You see, Serbian politicians did not start anything. Serbia never declared a civil war on anyone but only reacted to the war already declared by Croatia, Bosnian Muslims and K-Albanians.
Slovenia seceded and not a shot was fired and nobody killed.

How come Croatia instead of negotiating and taking Serbian interests into consideration (as was a constitutional requirement) armed themselves secretly by smuggling arms through Hungarian border?
After WW2 Croatian border were adjusted in Croatia's interest. Serbs were on that land longer than Croatians but Croatia decided they will keep it.
Bosnians Muslims didn't have the right to control all of Bosnia, or did they? What do you think? They made that decision at Serbs' expense.
K-Albanians rose greatly in numbers after WW2. A little present from Tito by not controlling the border with Albanian so much.
But there is one question I wold really like an answer to from you and that is do you think that Kosovo belong to Albanians because they managed to increase in numbers that much or do you think it was always Albanian?

sj

pre 5 godina

(Tito reloaded, 4 March 2019 09:59)

The problem with people like you, who believe that it was wonderful during Tito’s time, live in fantasy and as time moves on it becomes greater and greater much like the fisherman and the catch that got away.
Tito murdered thousands that even looked sideways. This Titoistic myth of living in harmony is just that; pure BS.
I always like to tell the story of a friend of the family who passed away years ago. Her husband was an engineer and he was posted outside Rijeka for several months on a project. So, she decided to visit him with their baby son but had to make can overnight stop in Zagreb before continuing the journey. She went to restaurant and asked for Supa and Helb. The waiter was a Serb who warned her not to use those works in Croatia otherwise she could easily disappear. That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

As you wish. The land belongs to the people that own houses and grounfd. In Kosovo this are Kosovo Albanians and Serbs. It does not belong to serbs in Belgrade nor albanians in Tirana.
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That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That was 1962.
So please stop fantasising this brotherly love crap.
(sj, 5 March 2019 08:09
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Exactly right. If Croats felt like our brothers and sisters they wouldn't have been preparing for a civil war before the 90s by arming themselves.
In the late 70s I think it was around 12 Croatians from Australia went to Yugoslavia to start a revolution.
I'm sure you are aware of Croatian churches and clubs which had pictures of Ante Pavelic on the the walls. I saw all that. I had a misfortune to go to a Croatian church for a wedding and attended some of their dances because I knew some Croatians. Even though they were fine with me I felt the hatred for Serbs once inside and never went again. This was people who came to Australia and continued with hatred.
If the rotten 12 who went there didn't think they had plenty of support they wouldn't have gone there. Remember the Croatian terrorist training camp in the 70s as well?
The hatred never ended so I don't know what this Tito guy is talking about. Any peace was kept by force while Tito was alive but as soon as he died it all went downhill. Leaders could not call so many to arms if there was brotherhood and unity.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.
(sj, 6 March 2019 09:55)
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Of course it is. It's a wonderful dream but can never become reality. Croats are still stuck in the Nazi Ustasha era even today. We can see the depth of loathing from Albanians on this site and maybe the only ones who might want to reconcile might be Bosnian Muslims but only if Wahhabbi influence is kicked out of Bosnia. That's a real concern now.
Here in Melbourne there was a Croatian priest whose surname was Kasic. As a member of clergy you would think he would look at things differently but he was the most loyal Ustasha.
I suppose he took example from the clergy from WW2 who participated in killing Serbs. Not only blessing the killers but were killers themselves.
There is no hope for people like that. Yes, exceptions do occur and there are some good Croatians who are trying to move on and embrace all but sadly they don't seem to make a dint.

Ataman

pre 5 godina

When I answered her comment in the same manner, mine was not posted! Why?
(Glow, 2 March 2019 22:31)

Many of my apolitical comments aren't posted either. And sometimes the posting does not happen (the web site returns to default state) for no apparent reason. Sometimes it helps if I remove quotes or use single ones (') instead of double ("). Sometimes re-writing everything and using the tinyurl.com to compress the url helps.

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

There are many technical problems which is sad because people assume, there is something wrong with their political opinion.
(Ataman, 3 March 2019 23:30)
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That happens to me as well but when it does I know that the comment hasn't gone though and I write it again.
Sometimes I have to go back to the article and post from the comment section there instead of from the comment section once in the actual comment section.
It will go through eventually. It might take two or three goes at it.

Wasting time

pre 5 godina

Belongs Belgrade to serbs because they came at some point of history or paris to french? Australia to Australians?... (Tito reloaded, 5 March 2019 10:53)

I agree with you entirely. But I don't think you will make any progress with a commenter who has a binary view of the world and lacks fundamental virtues.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

That's not what I asked and I think you know it.
Let's try again. Should Kosovo be independent, remain with Serbia or join Albania. That's what I meant.
(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:06)
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I'm still waiting for you to declare yourself on this one.
Losing hope.
It's so big of you to talk about everyone being equal and loving one another. It's a beautiful dream and nothing would make me happier if it ever came to be but I live in the real world.
So how about something a little more difficult like answering that question honestly.

Ataman's best friend

pre 5 godina

"But Glow... Zhukov proved a million times with 100% success, he is Russian, not Serb and probably never even visited Serbia.

Russians have zero negative feelings towards Albanians."

Agreed that he is Russian. But his posts are endless rants against Albanians.

"There is about 90% where I strongly disagree with Rote and about 5% where I just disagree."

I also agree with you.

"There are two possibilities:

a) you try to make statements to make others angry and upset.
This kind of thing is called "trolling". No comment.

b) you are really angry at Serbs for some maybe valid reason. What you do (attacking Russians) is absolutely ineffective. Maybe do complain to us/them straight about your ordeal instead.
See, I have / had horrific problems with Germans, for probably the same reason. I tried to make my own peace with them. Same with Poles. Not everything was successful, but at least all sides tried and it got much better with the time.

Attacking every single German or Polish web site and telling that Germany or Poland is the worst place in the universe won't help. But you do just that." (Ataman, 6 March 2019 15:46)

LOL

sj

pre 5 godina

(Peggy, 5 March 2019 13:15)

Croats had a hall in western Sydney, I think it was in the suburb of St Marys and outside it had written “No dogs or Serbs allowed inside”.
Then on one occasion that I am aware during the 1990s at the King Tomislav Hall Edensor Park, Sydney, they were cutting up pig on a spit and one Croat grabbed an axe saying as he cut its head off “this is what we will do to the Serbs” to the roar and applause of the entire crowd.
And this Tito talks about brotherhood and unity rubbish.