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Dacic on Serbia's stance on Venezuela

Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic says Serbia favors resolving problems in Venezuela through dialogue.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 16:05)

The number of Albanians who did not convert to Islam is small whereas the vast majority did just that.
Your logic on the topic of converting to protect families is as good as your theories of Albanians being Illyrians. Once you convert you are a Muslim and marriage to Turks would have been far, far easier since your all Muslims.
Serbs did not give their women to Turks, but if your talking about royalty marrying Sultans then yes that is true but that was the practice even in the west at that time where royalty from one country married into royal families in another country – it’s how peace was kept.
Turkey was a very powerful empire and an example of its importance even Mozart wrote a piece of music to this fact called the Turkish rondo.
Serbian religion was kept because they paid a tax to Turks to be allowed to practise their faith. In fact, all non-Muslim within the Turkish empire had to pay if they wish to continue in their faith.
You theory of Serbs…”have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians” is another in a long list of unsubstantiated theories. All Muslims had precedents over non-Muslims. If Serbs had more than Albanians it was because they were of more value to the Turks since they have and still do produce some very capable people.
But what does it say about Albos when they converted so quickly to Islam? Not much at all.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you want to talk about BS, well trying to portray that all Albanians converted to islam is nothing short of BS. in fact it's an old propaganda used by serbs thinking they can somehow sway public opinion about something. the reality is that those Albanians that converted did so in order to protect their families from being ravaged or sold into slavery. on the other hand, serbs were willing to give the most important females of society to the turks in exchange to keep your religion and have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians.

sj

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi
(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 02:28)

There is no end to you BS. So Serbs sided with the Ottomans but most never converted to Islam while Albos battled against the Turks and yet became Muslims LOL.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi

Chi

pre 5 godina

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.
(jugoslavija, 6 February 2019 17:57

Jug, the only difference is that Pacolli is a touch smarter. Never publicly got his hands dirty and generally disassociates himself from The Missing Link Haradinaj - just like Thaci has recently! The only thing missing from his resume is murder - that we know of anyway.... Ramush is set to take the fall for the other two stooges, and he's not smart enough to figure it out. Once the KLA Tribunal starts, he's finished and neither of the other two will give a damn or try to help. Maybe his new assistant can give him some tips on how to survive in jail for war crimes. I hope there's a bigger bouncer in the same cell so he can make him his little bitch!!!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?
(JS, 6 February 2019 08:33)
====================
China has invested a lot of money in infrastructure there and naturally they don't want their investment to go to US.
They certainly have more right to be included that the US.
As far as you doubting that elections were fair is concerned, the only people claiming that they are not is the US. Do you believe the proven liars and destroyers of countries unconditionally?
I guess you want to believe so it's all above board.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.
(JS, 5 February 2019 20:02)
=========================
Absolutely, but you don't seem to keep that in mind much.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.
(Mary, 6 February 2019 07:41)
============================
Aaahh, that "humanitarian" term again.
Nothing is done for humanitarian purposes. That's just a term used to justify land grab and takeover of another country.
But something tells me you know that already but choose not to because it suits your narrative.

Avni

pre 5 godina

What does little Sloba have to say about this?

Prema izveštaju organizacije "Fridom Haus", Srbija prvi put posle petnaest godina izgubila status "slobodne države" https://www.b92.net/bbc/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=02&dd=06&nav_id=1502271

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

@ Izabela Why are you lying? Venezuela has one of the best voting systems in the world and has always invited international observers to go watch their elections. Truth nr 1. Truth nr 2 The opposition to Maduro is made up of violent right wing sectors plus washingtown stooges and wealthy anti comunists supported mainly by a criminal diaspora. Truth nr 3 Venezuela's opposition knows very well they have 0 zirou chances to win against Maduro in legal way thru legal election process thats why they on purpose choose violent demonstrations to come to power. Truth nr 4 Maduro is not a genius in economics field but is doing his best to avoid the usual bloody regime changes. How is Bolsonaro doing in Brazil? You have a corrupted leader and licking the ass of the falling empire wont save you from the misery Bolsonaro and the right wing is preparing to you. Is it true or is it false that its Bolivia, socialist country led by wise leaders the latin country which has the major economic growth as we write her? You see, we know more on Brazil & neighbors than many of you know about your countries. Truth nr 4. For other truths read sj with a pen in your hand. Hasta la vista baby!

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

The better question to ask is why some in the international community are recognizing Gaido, an unelected official as the legitimate government?

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!
(Chi, 6 February 2019 14:06)

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

JS, conspiracy theory??
Guaido didnt stand for elections-FACT.
There is no power vaccuum- FACT
Guaido assumed his speaker role only last month-FACT.
Guaido is just 35 and an unknown until very recently, even in Venezuela-FACT.
Being a young novice and coming from nowhere at breakneck speed how can the US support him just like that? They must know him and have spoken to him in order to support him. Is that not a reasonable assumption?
Outside observers = international observers from various countries didnt flag up foul play. Thats also a fact.
So where is conspiricy here?? Explain.
I ask whats it to do with the US and EU, and you answer interests! Thats great, I had hoped you would support and promote rule of law/justice. But no, you saying screw that, its just interests.
Russia &China will stay out as long as the US does as well.
The US dont give a toss about truth, justice, international law, democracy. Its just about oil, nothing less.
Is that a bit clearer now??

Chi

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2019 17:21)

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!

sj

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.
(Isabela, 6 February 2019 11:48)

I wish that was true and if Guaidó came to power things would be better, but knowing the US very well and how they work all Washington wants is someone to work for them. Very soon you would see that nothing has changed.
The west has made Venezuela's life very hard and that is why people are leaving - its not the current government but various sanctions placed on your country.

People are leaving Guatemala, Honduras Costa Rica, Panama and looking for a better life. Why does Trump want to build the wall? Keep all migrants out.

Isabela

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.

JS

pre 5 godina

"Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??)."

Let me guess...you are highly attracted to conspiracy theories?


"Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair."

Which outside observers?

"What has it to do with America and some EU nations?"

Because of interests. Serbia has those too. That's why Dacic doesn't consider to change foreign policy.

"Who are they to dictate who the president should be?"

No dictating here. Just stating that free and fair elections should be held, and elected representatives shouldn't have their voice annulled by a president/prime minister.

"Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!!" (VIEW FROM UK, 5 February 2019 22:04)

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?

Mary

pre 5 godina

Dacic should know that some disputes cannot be solved by dialogue.There is a humanitarian crisis going on in Venezuela where Maduro is trying to starve those against him into submission. This is much like the situation in Kosova in 1999. The problem was solved with humanitarian bombing. One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??). Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair. What has it to do with America and some EU nations? Who are they to dictate who the president should be? Guaido has even refused to talk/negotiate to calm the political crisis. Why? Is he being told not to by that "beacon of democracy...aka USA? Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!! NB; well done Italy for standing up to Germany, UK, ETC.

JS

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.

bert

pre 5 godina

same thing that is happening to maduro will happen to vucic back in serbia. these are what we in the west call rogue nations with dictators who will not respect anything democratic as long as they are guaranteed to stay in power.

Who

pre 5 godina

Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.
(Staff, 5 February 2019 15:38)

Germany lost WW2 , and you know US it’s not in the boat with us how ? Oh yea you are stuffed with info lol, just the way you know about the gym Ramush goes too, and the meeting in NY and the meeting in Brussels, you know everything, but you predict everything wrong. You serbs act so smart it’s not even funny anymore. Stuffed peppers 🌶 you are

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

The only thing will change is Kosovo boundaries. You will get mad? Probably, but it matters not.
Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Well said, Ivice!

Integrity of International Law is what keeps every country in check and safe...a lesson the West has yet to learn!

Might does NOT make right!

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

@ eaj - why? Because some bullies don’t like it?
Here in the USA, “We we’re all wrong” about Iraq... now we do it again!!
We were all wrong about “ kosovaaaa” too...
But are trying to “save face”...

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Well said, Ivice!

Integrity of International Law is what keeps every country in check and safe...a lesson the West has yet to learn!

Might does NOT make right!

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

@ eaj - why? Because some bullies don’t like it?
Here in the USA, “We we’re all wrong” about Iraq... now we do it again!!
We were all wrong about “ kosovaaaa” too...
But are trying to “save face”...

bert

pre 5 godina

same thing that is happening to maduro will happen to vucic back in serbia. these are what we in the west call rogue nations with dictators who will not respect anything democratic as long as they are guaranteed to stay in power.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??). Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair. What has it to do with America and some EU nations? Who are they to dictate who the president should be? Guaido has even refused to talk/negotiate to calm the political crisis. Why? Is he being told not to by that "beacon of democracy...aka USA? Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!! NB; well done Italy for standing up to Germany, UK, ETC.

Staff

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

The only thing will change is Kosovo boundaries. You will get mad? Probably, but it matters not.
Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.

JS

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

Isabela

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2019 17:21)

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!

sj

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi
(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 02:28)

There is no end to you BS. So Serbs sided with the Ottomans but most never converted to Islam while Albos battled against the Turks and yet became Muslims LOL.

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

JS

pre 5 godina

"Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??)."

Let me guess...you are highly attracted to conspiracy theories?


"Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair."

Which outside observers?

"What has it to do with America and some EU nations?"

Because of interests. Serbia has those too. That's why Dacic doesn't consider to change foreign policy.

"Who are they to dictate who the president should be?"

No dictating here. Just stating that free and fair elections should be held, and elected representatives shouldn't have their voice annulled by a president/prime minister.

"Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!!" (VIEW FROM UK, 5 February 2019 22:04)

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?

Chi

pre 5 godina

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.
(jugoslavija, 6 February 2019 17:57

Jug, the only difference is that Pacolli is a touch smarter. Never publicly got his hands dirty and generally disassociates himself from The Missing Link Haradinaj - just like Thaci has recently! The only thing missing from his resume is murder - that we know of anyway.... Ramush is set to take the fall for the other two stooges, and he's not smart enough to figure it out. Once the KLA Tribunal starts, he's finished and neither of the other two will give a damn or try to help. Maybe his new assistant can give him some tips on how to survive in jail for war crimes. I hope there's a bigger bouncer in the same cell so he can make him his little bitch!!!

Who

pre 5 godina

Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.
(Staff, 5 February 2019 15:38)

Germany lost WW2 , and you know US it’s not in the boat with us how ? Oh yea you are stuffed with info lol, just the way you know about the gym Ramush goes too, and the meeting in NY and the meeting in Brussels, you know everything, but you predict everything wrong. You serbs act so smart it’s not even funny anymore. Stuffed peppers 🌶 you are

Mary

pre 5 godina

Dacic should know that some disputes cannot be solved by dialogue.There is a humanitarian crisis going on in Venezuela where Maduro is trying to starve those against him into submission. This is much like the situation in Kosova in 1999. The problem was solved with humanitarian bombing. One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

The better question to ask is why some in the international community are recognizing Gaido, an unelected official as the legitimate government?

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.
(JS, 5 February 2019 20:02)
=========================
Absolutely, but you don't seem to keep that in mind much.

sj

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.
(Isabela, 6 February 2019 11:48)

I wish that was true and if Guaidó came to power things would be better, but knowing the US very well and how they work all Washington wants is someone to work for them. Very soon you would see that nothing has changed.
The west has made Venezuela's life very hard and that is why people are leaving - its not the current government but various sanctions placed on your country.

People are leaving Guatemala, Honduras Costa Rica, Panama and looking for a better life. Why does Trump want to build the wall? Keep all migrants out.

Avni

pre 5 godina

What does little Sloba have to say about this?

Prema izveštaju organizacije "Fridom Haus", Srbija prvi put posle petnaest godina izgubila status "slobodne države" https://www.b92.net/bbc/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=02&dd=06&nav_id=1502271

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

@ Izabela Why are you lying? Venezuela has one of the best voting systems in the world and has always invited international observers to go watch their elections. Truth nr 1. Truth nr 2 The opposition to Maduro is made up of violent right wing sectors plus washingtown stooges and wealthy anti comunists supported mainly by a criminal diaspora. Truth nr 3 Venezuela's opposition knows very well they have 0 zirou chances to win against Maduro in legal way thru legal election process thats why they on purpose choose violent demonstrations to come to power. Truth nr 4 Maduro is not a genius in economics field but is doing his best to avoid the usual bloody regime changes. How is Bolsonaro doing in Brazil? You have a corrupted leader and licking the ass of the falling empire wont save you from the misery Bolsonaro and the right wing is preparing to you. Is it true or is it false that its Bolivia, socialist country led by wise leaders the latin country which has the major economic growth as we write her? You see, we know more on Brazil & neighbors than many of you know about your countries. Truth nr 4. For other truths read sj with a pen in your hand. Hasta la vista baby!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?
(JS, 6 February 2019 08:33)
====================
China has invested a lot of money in infrastructure there and naturally they don't want their investment to go to US.
They certainly have more right to be included that the US.
As far as you doubting that elections were fair is concerned, the only people claiming that they are not is the US. Do you believe the proven liars and destroyers of countries unconditionally?
I guess you want to believe so it's all above board.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.
(Mary, 6 February 2019 07:41)
============================
Aaahh, that "humanitarian" term again.
Nothing is done for humanitarian purposes. That's just a term used to justify land grab and takeover of another country.
But something tells me you know that already but choose not to because it suits your narrative.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!
(Chi, 6 February 2019 14:06)

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you want to talk about BS, well trying to portray that all Albanians converted to islam is nothing short of BS. in fact it's an old propaganda used by serbs thinking they can somehow sway public opinion about something. the reality is that those Albanians that converted did so in order to protect their families from being ravaged or sold into slavery. on the other hand, serbs were willing to give the most important females of society to the turks in exchange to keep your religion and have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

JS, conspiracy theory??
Guaido didnt stand for elections-FACT.
There is no power vaccuum- FACT
Guaido assumed his speaker role only last month-FACT.
Guaido is just 35 and an unknown until very recently, even in Venezuela-FACT.
Being a young novice and coming from nowhere at breakneck speed how can the US support him just like that? They must know him and have spoken to him in order to support him. Is that not a reasonable assumption?
Outside observers = international observers from various countries didnt flag up foul play. Thats also a fact.
So where is conspiricy here?? Explain.
I ask whats it to do with the US and EU, and you answer interests! Thats great, I had hoped you would support and promote rule of law/justice. But no, you saying screw that, its just interests.
Russia &China will stay out as long as the US does as well.
The US dont give a toss about truth, justice, international law, democracy. Its just about oil, nothing less.
Is that a bit clearer now??

sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 16:05)

The number of Albanians who did not convert to Islam is small whereas the vast majority did just that.
Your logic on the topic of converting to protect families is as good as your theories of Albanians being Illyrians. Once you convert you are a Muslim and marriage to Turks would have been far, far easier since your all Muslims.
Serbs did not give their women to Turks, but if your talking about royalty marrying Sultans then yes that is true but that was the practice even in the west at that time where royalty from one country married into royal families in another country – it’s how peace was kept.
Turkey was a very powerful empire and an example of its importance even Mozart wrote a piece of music to this fact called the Turkish rondo.
Serbian religion was kept because they paid a tax to Turks to be allowed to practise their faith. In fact, all non-Muslim within the Turkish empire had to pay if they wish to continue in their faith.
You theory of Serbs…”have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians” is another in a long list of unsubstantiated theories. All Muslims had precedents over non-Muslims. If Serbs had more than Albanians it was because they were of more value to the Turks since they have and still do produce some very capable people.
But what does it say about Albos when they converted so quickly to Islam? Not much at all.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Well said, Ivice!

Integrity of International Law is what keeps every country in check and safe...a lesson the West has yet to learn!

Might does NOT make right!

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??). Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair. What has it to do with America and some EU nations? Who are they to dictate who the president should be? Guaido has even refused to talk/negotiate to calm the political crisis. Why? Is he being told not to by that "beacon of democracy...aka USA? Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!! NB; well done Italy for standing up to Germany, UK, ETC.

Watcher

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

@ eaj - why? Because some bullies don’t like it?
Here in the USA, “We we’re all wrong” about Iraq... now we do it again!!
We were all wrong about “ kosovaaaa” too...
But are trying to “save face”...

Staff

pre 5 godina

Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

The only thing will change is Kosovo boundaries. You will get mad? Probably, but it matters not.
Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.

The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.

bert

pre 5 godina

same thing that is happening to maduro will happen to vucic back in serbia. these are what we in the west call rogue nations with dictators who will not respect anything democratic as long as they are guaranteed to stay in power.

Who

pre 5 godina

Germans were also mad after WW2. Also, this time your ally US is on the boat, but you dont know it yet. Stay tuned.
(Staff, 5 February 2019 15:38)

Germany lost WW2 , and you know US it’s not in the boat with us how ? Oh yea you are stuffed with info lol, just the way you know about the gym Ramush goes too, and the meeting in NY and the meeting in Brussels, you know everything, but you predict everything wrong. You serbs act so smart it’s not even funny anymore. Stuffed peppers 🌶 you are

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

sj

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.
(Isabela, 6 February 2019 11:48)

I wish that was true and if Guaidó came to power things would be better, but knowing the US very well and how they work all Washington wants is someone to work for them. Very soon you would see that nothing has changed.
The west has made Venezuela's life very hard and that is why people are leaving - its not the current government but various sanctions placed on your country.

People are leaving Guatemala, Honduras Costa Rica, Panama and looking for a better life. Why does Trump want to build the wall? Keep all migrants out.

VIEW FROM UK

pre 5 godina

JS, conspiracy theory??
Guaido didnt stand for elections-FACT.
There is no power vaccuum- FACT
Guaido assumed his speaker role only last month-FACT.
Guaido is just 35 and an unknown until very recently, even in Venezuela-FACT.
Being a young novice and coming from nowhere at breakneck speed how can the US support him just like that? They must know him and have spoken to him in order to support him. Is that not a reasonable assumption?
Outside observers = international observers from various countries didnt flag up foul play. Thats also a fact.
So where is conspiricy here?? Explain.
I ask whats it to do with the US and EU, and you answer interests! Thats great, I had hoped you would support and promote rule of law/justice. But no, you saying screw that, its just interests.
Russia &China will stay out as long as the US does as well.
The US dont give a toss about truth, justice, international law, democracy. Its just about oil, nothing less.
Is that a bit clearer now??

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi

Mary

pre 5 godina

Dacic should know that some disputes cannot be solved by dialogue.There is a humanitarian crisis going on in Venezuela where Maduro is trying to starve those against him into submission. This is much like the situation in Kosova in 1999. The problem was solved with humanitarian bombing. One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Serbia failed when trying to sit on two chairs, yet now they are trying to sit on three chairs! Greater fools, these Serbian politicians, the world has not seen before.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2019 17:21)

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 5 godina

@ Izabela Why are you lying? Venezuela has one of the best voting systems in the world and has always invited international observers to go watch their elections. Truth nr 1. Truth nr 2 The opposition to Maduro is made up of violent right wing sectors plus washingtown stooges and wealthy anti comunists supported mainly by a criminal diaspora. Truth nr 3 Venezuela's opposition knows very well they have 0 zirou chances to win against Maduro in legal way thru legal election process thats why they on purpose choose violent demonstrations to come to power. Truth nr 4 Maduro is not a genius in economics field but is doing his best to avoid the usual bloody regime changes. How is Bolsonaro doing in Brazil? You have a corrupted leader and licking the ass of the falling empire wont save you from the misery Bolsonaro and the right wing is preparing to you. Is it true or is it false that its Bolivia, socialist country led by wise leaders the latin country which has the major economic growth as we write her? You see, we know more on Brazil & neighbors than many of you know about your countries. Truth nr 4. For other truths read sj with a pen in your hand. Hasta la vista baby!

JS

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.

JS

pre 5 godina

"Can we all get this right about Venezuela. Guaido didnt stand for elections last year. But a little known law in their country states that "if there is a power vaccuum then the speaker can appoint himself as president". As far as I know Guaido assumed his role in parliament only last month. So, I'm wondering where this guy came from. And I wonder who was backing him (CIA, US state dept..??)."

Let me guess...you are highly attracted to conspiracy theories?


"Oh, and there is no a power vaccum because the current president won the elections last year. And the elections were monitored by outsde observers and declared fair."

Which outside observers?

"What has it to do with America and some EU nations?"

Because of interests. Serbia has those too. That's why Dacic doesn't consider to change foreign policy.

"Who are they to dictate who the president should be?"

No dictating here. Just stating that free and fair elections should be held, and elected representatives shouldn't have their voice annulled by a president/prime minister.

"Foreigners stay out of Venezuelas internal affairs!!" (VIEW FROM UK, 5 February 2019 22:04)

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?

Isabela

pre 5 godina

Serbia needs support Guaidó. Many people is coming to my country ( Brazil) because they are in the poorest situantion they have even seen. The leftist and dictador have to leave. All the election that Maduro attended was fraudulent. Latinos know that! Trust me.

Avni

pre 5 godina

What does little Sloba have to say about this?

Prema izveštaju organizacije "Fridom Haus", Srbija prvi put posle petnaest godina izgubila status "slobodne države" https://www.b92.net/bbc/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=02&dd=06&nav_id=1502271

Dardania'Alb

pre 5 godina

sj, you want to talk about BS, well trying to portray that all Albanians converted to islam is nothing short of BS. in fact it's an old propaganda used by serbs thinking they can somehow sway public opinion about something. the reality is that those Albanians that converted did so in order to protect their families from being ravaged or sold into slavery. on the other hand, serbs were willing to give the most important females of society to the turks in exchange to keep your religion and have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians.

LOL

pre 5 godina

"Friendly state"...soon things will change...
(EA, 5 February 2019 14:08)

In the grand scheme of things, the clear American ass kissing Albania and Kosovo* did by recognizing John Bolton's puppet leader will hardly be noticed. It's truly hilarious to see what lengths you'll go to in order to be considered relevant. The fate of Venezuela will have no consequences on what happens in the Balkans.

jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

Count, you really need to look closer regarding political fools - ever hear of Haradinaj, Thaci and Pacolli, basically the three stooges of politics. Yeah, thought so!!!
(Chi, 6 February 2019 14:06)

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Does that include Russia, China, and Serbia?
(JS, 6 February 2019 08:33)
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China has invested a lot of money in infrastructure there and naturally they don't want their investment to go to US.
They certainly have more right to be included that the US.
As far as you doubting that elections were fair is concerned, the only people claiming that they are not is the US. Do you believe the proven liars and destroyers of countries unconditionally?
I guess you want to believe so it's all above board.

sj

pre 5 godina

Skenderbeu, why are you posting under the name Skenderbeu, knowing damn well he was an ethnic Albanian. you are in no position to call others out for forgery or lying. serbs sided with ottomans against Skenderbeu and John Hunyadi
(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 02:28)

There is no end to you BS. So Serbs sided with the Ottomans but most never converted to Islam while Albos battled against the Turks and yet became Muslims LOL.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

The better question to ask is why some in the international community are recognizing Gaido, an unelected official as the legitimate government?

Peggy

pre 5 godina

One should be aware that some humanitarian interventions need not be peaceful. This is something Milosevic learned the hard way.
(Mary, 6 February 2019 07:41)
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Aaahh, that "humanitarian" term again.
Nothing is done for humanitarian purposes. That's just a term used to justify land grab and takeover of another country.
But something tells me you know that already but choose not to because it suits your narrative.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Dacic has not considered changing the position on Venezuela. Why? Because it is not in the best interest of Serbia, with regard to the Kosovo issue. Nations and governments and politicians are all about interests not virtues. It is very important to keep that fact in mind.
(JS, 5 February 2019 20:02)
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Absolutely, but you don't seem to keep that in mind much.

Chi

pre 5 godina

The Albanian three stooges if you ask me, Pacolli lowered himself to the KLA Terrorist level with his recent comments.
(jugoslavija, 6 February 2019 17:57

Jug, the only difference is that Pacolli is a touch smarter. Never publicly got his hands dirty and generally disassociates himself from The Missing Link Haradinaj - just like Thaci has recently! The only thing missing from his resume is murder - that we know of anyway.... Ramush is set to take the fall for the other two stooges, and he's not smart enough to figure it out. Once the KLA Tribunal starts, he's finished and neither of the other two will give a damn or try to help. Maybe his new assistant can give him some tips on how to survive in jail for war crimes. I hope there's a bigger bouncer in the same cell so he can make him his little bitch!!!

sj

pre 5 godina

(Dardania'Alb, 7 February 2019 16:05)

The number of Albanians who did not convert to Islam is small whereas the vast majority did just that.
Your logic on the topic of converting to protect families is as good as your theories of Albanians being Illyrians. Once you convert you are a Muslim and marriage to Turks would have been far, far easier since your all Muslims.
Serbs did not give their women to Turks, but if your talking about royalty marrying Sultans then yes that is true but that was the practice even in the west at that time where royalty from one country married into royal families in another country – it’s how peace was kept.
Turkey was a very powerful empire and an example of its importance even Mozart wrote a piece of music to this fact called the Turkish rondo.
Serbian religion was kept because they paid a tax to Turks to be allowed to practise their faith. In fact, all non-Muslim within the Turkish empire had to pay if they wish to continue in their faith.
You theory of Serbs…”have other institutions that were not afforded to Albanians” is another in a long list of unsubstantiated theories. All Muslims had precedents over non-Muslims. If Serbs had more than Albanians it was because they were of more value to the Turks since they have and still do produce some very capable people.
But what does it say about Albos when they converted so quickly to Islam? Not much at all.