"Putin's next playground or EU's last moral stand?"

Europeans saw the nearby tragedy as...clashes between ethnic nationalism, represented by Slobodan Milosevic, and the principle of multiethnic democracy, embodied by the European Union.

That is why the west is stuffed. As if it was only Milosevic representing ethnic nationalism. since they are so moved on this principle of multiethnic democracy why did they allow the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Croatia? or perhaps Kosovo? In fact it was the US that gave the Croats the green light to remove the Serbs.

The west is run by stupid people who are appointed by the corporations and stupid people are more easily controlled. That's why we have Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, libya and now Venezuela.

These stats are hardly surprising when you consider the social and economic situation in countries such as Albania and BiH.
Endemic corruption, backward social attitudes such as the casual acceptance of domestic violence and blood feuds. Chronic economic stagnation, unemployment and lack of investments. You also have the residual tension brought about by years of conflict and nationalist hatred. And a political class beholden to local power structures, devoid of any real vision for the future. It's little wonder then that ordinary people want to get the hell out.

Ethnic nationalism was heavily endorsed by the western powers in every single one of the ex-YU countries, except Serbia, where it was condemned. The multi ethnic state were Balkans-tribalism was at least less prevelant was Yugoslavia, what they have deliberately destroyed, twice.

The Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.

Putin unrealistically expected to be treated as an equal by the US, unfortunately, all he got was a blast of flatulance in the face.

Sj,
I see you’re still up to your usual Tokyo Rose tactics, but to no avail. You must have been caught down wind from the blast Putin received, since you had your face too close to Putin’s rear.

These countries are not wealthy because the people are not hard working and innovative. I could cite many examples but one common saying in Serbia will suffice: "When my neighbors cow dies, I don't have any benefits but he has a loss."
(JS, 31 January 2019 08:16)

True but people in your US work hard (every American I have met talks about working hard - it’s like some badge of honour to say they work hard) but the vast majority only receive between $7.50 and $12.50 an hour. When you come to think of it the hard-working Americans are no better off than people in Serbia. In fact, it is even worse since about 70% of all working Americans live from pay cheque to pay cheque.
During the first government shut down they were showing government workers going to charity organisations after a month for food to feed their families.
So much for innovation, but since you’re in Serbia tilling land on 3 farms and trimming the orchards you can show them the errors of their ways despite failing in the US.

he Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.
(Jugoslavija, 30 January 2019 16:04)

Jugo, I'll plead ignorance right out of the gate!!! I'm not very familiar with the goings-on in Bulgaria and Romania (other than what Adrian from Bucharest posts here, and I still don't understand it), but I guess I"m a bit confused by this economic prosperity that's supposedly thriving in Croatia?!? Can you please give me some facts to support this statement and if possible explain your thoughts to me - and, I'm sure Lenard and Dwight are curious as well.

Sj,
I see you’re still up to your usual Tokyo Rose tactics, but to no avail. You must have been caught down wind from the blast Putin received, since you had your face too close to Putin’s rear.
(Django, 30 January 2019 15:11)

Vlad said Hi.

The Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.
(Jugoslavija, 30 January 2019 16:04)

These countries are not wealthy because the people are not hard working and innovative. I could cite many examples but one common saying in Serbia will suffice: "When my neighbors cow dies, I don't have any benefits but he has a loss."

Putin unrealistically expected to be treated as an equal by the US, unfortunately, all he got was a blast of flatulance in the face.

Sj,
I see you’re still up to your usual Tokyo Rose tactics, but to no avail. You must have been caught down wind from the blast Putin received, since you had your face too close to Putin’s rear.

Europeans saw the nearby tragedy as...clashes between ethnic nationalism, represented by Slobodan Milosevic, and the principle of multiethnic democracy, embodied by the European Union.

That is why the west is stuffed. As if it was only Milosevic representing ethnic nationalism. since they are so moved on this principle of multiethnic democracy why did they allow the ethnic cleansing of Serbs from Croatia? or perhaps Kosovo? In fact it was the US that gave the Croats the green light to remove the Serbs.

The west is run by stupid people who are appointed by the corporations and stupid people are more easily controlled. That's why we have Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, libya and now Venezuela.

Ethnic nationalism was heavily endorsed by the western powers in every single one of the ex-YU countries, except Serbia, where it was condemned. The multi ethnic state were Balkans-tribalism was at least less prevelant was Yugoslavia, what they have deliberately destroyed, twice.

These stats are hardly surprising when you consider the social and economic situation in countries such as Albania and BiH.
Endemic corruption, backward social attitudes such as the casual acceptance of domestic violence and blood feuds. Chronic economic stagnation, unemployment and lack of investments. You also have the residual tension brought about by years of conflict and nationalist hatred. And a political class beholden to local power structures, devoid of any real vision for the future. It's little wonder then that ordinary people want to get the hell out.

The Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.
(Jugoslavija, 30 January 2019 16:04)

These countries are not wealthy because the people are not hard working and innovative. I could cite many examples but one common saying in Serbia will suffice: "When my neighbors cow dies, I don't have any benefits but he has a loss."

The Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.

he Balkans needs to set it's own policies and destiny instead of being manipulated by the EU and the US. Take the lead of Turkey which set it's own economic policy and the EU is the last thing on people's mind due to economic prosperity. If the Balkans don't unite and set their own agenda, they are doomed for failure as fragmented states. Romania and Bulgaria has not seen the economic prosperity promised to them by the EU, Slovenia and Croatia are much the same. Greece is mired in debt and fiscal constraints that without relief is choking the nation.
(Jugoslavija, 30 January 2019 16:04)

Jugo, I'll plead ignorance right out of the gate!!! I'm not very familiar with the goings-on in Bulgaria and Romania (other than what Adrian from Bucharest posts here, and I still don't understand it), but I guess I"m a bit confused by this economic prosperity that's supposedly thriving in Croatia?!? Can you please give me some facts to support this statement and if possible explain your thoughts to me - and, I'm sure Lenard and Dwight are curious as well.

Sj,
I see you’re still up to your usual Tokyo Rose tactics, but to no avail. You must have been caught down wind from the blast Putin received, since you had your face too close to Putin’s rear.
(Django, 30 January 2019 15:11)

Vlad said Hi.

These countries are not wealthy because the people are not hard working and innovative. I could cite many examples but one common saying in Serbia will suffice: "When my neighbors cow dies, I don't have any benefits but he has a loss."
(JS, 31 January 2019 08:16)

True but people in your US work hard (every American I have met talks about working hard - it’s like some badge of honour to say they work hard) but the vast majority only receive between $7.50 and $12.50 an hour. When you come to think of it the hard-working Americans are no better off than people in Serbia. In fact, it is even worse since about 70% of all working Americans live from pay cheque to pay cheque.
During the first government shut down they were showing government workers going to charity organisations after a month for food to feed their families.
So much for innovation, but since you’re in Serbia tilling land on 3 farms and trimming the orchards you can show them the errors of their ways despite failing in the US.