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Friday, 21.12.2018.

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"US wants Kosovo agreement to be signed like Israel-Egypt"

The US is ready to organize the signing of a Belgrade-Pristina agreement modeled on the signing of the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt in 1978.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

here is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:47)

Maco, last time I looked, NATO is an organization and not a country. So, it begs the question, "how can a "so called" State be an "ally" of an organization. You might have the support of this corrupt and misled multi-national organization, but an ally is a stretch to say the least. You do understand that KiM is NOT a part of this organization, right?!?!?

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 22 December 2018 22:30)
My little fictive Italian Albo the chorus is all part of an orchestrated act. If you’re that stupid to think Kosova has economic power over Serbia then I can’t help you.
Are you aware that the dumb arse EU is paying compensation to Serbian companies for your taxes???? Why because the EU idiots are Kosova’s guarantors LOL.
KFOR, a UN run group, has already said they will not tolerate any armed forces but their own. As far as the US of Piss and Wind is concerned, I’d take what they say with a huge grain of salt. They are about to depart from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Why? As the group ABBA sang; Money, money, money. More to the point a lack of it.
I see you now agree with my fictive investment in Trstenik and yes they will be twisting wires for 250Euros, but that is much more than your Albos in Kosova who will be twisting their hands and getting SFA for their efforts. Why haven’t the US company opened shop in Kosova???? Why?? Are they afraid of polluting it LOL?
“…By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!”

What a stupid question. It’s a PRIVATE company; Yes lets repeat that for our resident goat herders; it’s a PRIVATELY owned company registered on the NY stock exchange. It is NOT owned by the US government. Understandy now???????????? What school did you go to? The same one where Rastus Haradjin got his MBA?

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)
You see to form an army in Kosovo requires constitutional amendments – the constitution was written by your western bros. Your Albos decided to create an army by themselves so they are pissing on their own laws.
KFOR is a UN group and they have said on a number of occasions that they will not tolerate another armed force in Kosovo. You guys can pretend to march up and down a dusty field but you cannot have an operational army.
Bondsteel is a US base and they only have communication. There no trainers there plus the US has lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria. You should get someone who wins occasionally to train your lot.
Two dozen second hand Humvees is not state of the art equipment; maybe for you guys it is because it’s an upgrade from goats and donkeys but in the real world its nothing.
Well you see new aircraft are extremely expensive for Serbia so for now it’s the upgraded MiGs which are excellent air machines. In fact, Russia is giving several brand new transport and attack helicopters to the Serbian army. Look at the Croats they are trying to buy F16 from Israel and they are about the same age as the MiGs.
Now how many F35s will Kosova purchase again?
Mary, the US companies that invest in Serbia are private companies which are NOT owned by the US government. US corporations are fine but the Government is not. Its debt is $21 trillion by end of this month starting on the 22nd trillion on I January.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 22 December 2018 20:14)

Actually, the EU is paying Serbia compensation for that 100% tax, but when your Albo uncle or aunt goes to the local supermarket and they buy goods which are predominantly made in Serbia they end up paying the higher price so you and your family outside Kosova will have to find another job to send more money to family because everything has gone up. That is how it goes when you have a tariff; ask the Americans who pay more for Chinese goods. It’s not the person selling but the consumer that pays – it’s a TAX on the consumer – understand now?????
No mate the US does not give anything away these days. Those Humvees are all second hand; items that the US no longer needs and nothing more. The only thing that is state of the art is the BS coming out of people like you. The army was created illegally against your own constitution and I am fine with your guys pissing on your own laws LOL.
Kosovo has no industry, it has no tourism, it has no trade; investment is non-existent and even the US companies rather invest in Serbia than with their friends in Kosova. People leaving at every opportunity and population is dwindling.
Now how is Kosova in a winning position again????? Perhaps you are talking about a Kosova on the planet Mars which I am not familiar with so I can’t comment LOL.

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Glow

pre 5 godina

What about those protests in Serbia against the government?? Not hearing much about that. Ooops I forgot there is no free speech in Serbia and media is run by the dictatorship and is not allowed to report anything. EU can't wait for Serbia to join them...in the next 1000 years that is.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)

Actually, they were supposed to get back into service at the end of 2017 - this, however, didn't happen. But, they are in service as of the end of this year. Serbia will also inherit 8 additional MIG29's from Belarus by end of 2019. Regardless the age, these planes are still used today by 30 Air Forces globally.

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Continued from my previous comments:

There is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Regarding your comments of 21 Dec. 23:25, how could the US be so poor, yet invest so heavily, as you claim, in Serbia. Your arguments are so full of contradictions, even a child can see through them.

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

(sj, 21 December 2018 23:25)

Then explain the chorus of loud whinging and begging Kosova to lift the tariffs by your top dogs!
Make up your mind, tariffs either make no harm to Serbia - as you often say, or tariffs are devastating Serbia - hence you pray for their lifting so visibly.

When and who from NATO or KFOR said so? Any link? What's more, the Americans explicitly said that it is Kosova's sovereign right to decide about the formation of its armed forces.

You have again receded to your default frame of delusional mind using wishful thinking tense "... are about to turn against it ...". You sound so desperate dude.

I strongly suggest you to get a shrink. If that's to expensive for you, then change your failing dodgy chrystal ball or, even better, insist for full refund.

The Trstenik factory amounts to twisting wires for €250 a month for the poor Serb employees. Profits go to US and Serbia gets the pollution.

By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!

As usually, you never add up. Why would you anyway!

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The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Serbia is in a “winning position”??? Is that what you call it when Serbia and RS must pay 100% tariffs to Kosova. Anywhere else, that would be called complete capitulation. Additionally, A new Kosova Army, recently armed with state of the art weapons from the US, free of charge. Perhaps you should consult an English dictionary for the definition of “winning position”.

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Fact check

pre 5 godina

"US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs"

... and the Serbian government provided the company with a 4.6 million euro subsidy.

So the American company will make money and the Serbian taxpayers will pay for it. Great investment.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

LOL Albo, you don't have 5-6 million people in your diaspora let alone KiM - this is including all the people that have left the ghetto you created in KiM. Unless all the drug peddling, organ trafficking, land stealing, Albs come back to KiM to fight for this big cause, your numbers are still skewed. If, by 5-6 million, you're including the "real Albo's" just South of you, then I believe it would be fair for the Serbs to include an ally as well. Don't you think?!?!?

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JS

pre 5 godina

...your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.
(Chi, 21 December 2018 20:11)

Very true. Particularly unwise choices from the leaders of Kosovo as of late. But I'm all in favor. Keep those choices coming. Thank you very much!

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 21 December 2018 16:26)

Yep the might of Albo power in Kosova is about to bring Serbia to its knees LOL.
The army LOL, even KFOR/NATO have said that they accept no other armed forces in Kosovo but please continue. The very people who supported Kosova are about to turn against it since your illiterates have broken every law in their constitution/agreements.
Why would Serbia worry about Albos since the EU has already stopped any visa free travel and if the Albos don’t lift tariffs very soon it will get worse. Let the EU do the heavy lifting.
Here is another fictive investment for you:
US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs, but when the new facility, which spans 7,000 square meters, is finished 1,000 Serbs will find work there.
Google it. What is even funnier the company has posted it on line. I wounder why they did not open a plant in Kosova????? Surely they are your allies??????

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Glow

pre 5 godina

Dacic/serbia lives in some kind of delusional state of mind. They tell themselves lies long enough in hopes that those lies will become true but he should know by now that they don't. He keeps implying that USA has changed their views on Kosova but he forgets that USA was the biggest supporter of Kosova's Army just days ago. USA is the biggest supporter of anything that Kosova tries to do. Dacic tries to justify his delusional views he sells to his people and they do not make any sense whatsoever.

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Avni

pre 5 godina

(Zo, 21 December 2018 15:20)

Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova"

Beograd -- Istraživanje analitičko-istraživačkog centra Galup iz SAD pokazuje migraciju stanovništva iz svih delova sveta, Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova".

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=12&dd=21&nav_category=12&nav_id=1484794

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis,

Albo, so, why are you always begging for recognitions?!?! And don't say you don't, everyone of your demands is based off of Serbian recognition. Recognize us or we'll impose 100%, recognize us at Interpol, recognize us at the UN, or else... you get it right.
Deep down you know you're not Independent, so you come up with all these sorry excuses about we don't car who recognizes us - you're lying to yourself buddy... And, with all you sophmorish moves lately to piss off your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.

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David

pre 5 godina

"5-6 million Albanians" where did you get such figures from when Kosovo only has less than 2 million you must be counting all of Albania with women, children, goats, pigs, sheep, chickens, casper the friendly ghosts

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JS

pre 5 godina

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land. (Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

The logic here is fairly tight and clean. It is difficult to argue with. It should be faced fairly and squarely.

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Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

diana: "Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country?"

Your question makes no sense. Yes, Kosova is a free and independent country. Most certainly independent of Serbia. Is there even a question of that? From taxes to the army, to a million of other issues, Kosova makes its own decisions and implements them independently of what Serbia wants. That makes Kosova an independent country.

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo...
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped ...

... Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.
(sj, 21 December 2018 14:17)

How does Russia support Serbia? By selling you the obsolete military carcasses and charge you massive maintenance expenses for revamping them http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a216218/Ruski-poklonjeni-avioni-Srbiju-kostaju-do-230-miliona-evra.html? By bullying Serbia into selling it's oil industry NIS for peanuts to Russians? https://www.blic.rs/biznis/nenadic-zasto-je-nis-prodat-za-400-miliona-evra/n765y24 https://mercury-postlight-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mercury.postlight.com/amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Finsajder.net%2Fsr%2Fsajt%2Fjuznitok%2F1462%2F&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#aoh=15454072531924&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s https://www.kurir.rs/vesti/drustvo/1504633/mutno-policija-istrazuje-prodaju-nis-rusima

Russians are draining the oil reserves in Serbia extremely fast and Serbia doesn't get a dime out of it https://www.blic.rs/biznis/afera-naftna-polja-rusi-bi-mogli-da-opustose-srpske-rezerve-do-2021-a-onda-nam-vrate/xsvm8ek.

If this is how Serbia is winning, well, I wish it keeps winning for ever - just tell me how can I help you with this?!

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.
(sj, 21 December 2018 12:35)


What has been settled? Tariffs of 100% which your supreme commander doesn't fail to mention day-in-day-out? Or perhaps the Army of Kosova which he also never fails to mention day-in-day-out? If in your deluded mind this counts as a success for Serbia - I cannot but be happy with that success. I am also thinking to ask you step up your fictive investment in Serbia so that these kind of settlements increase in numbers. You would do this favour to me? Wouldn't'ya!?

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dan

pre 5 godina

To sj you will see how powerful the us empire is when they start bombing and destroying iran in the near future and iran is some 20 time greater and 100 times more powerfull then serbia and about the s-300 that syria got it turns out it is a very big shit since israel still bombs syria daily but the media dont report it and putin is silent

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Zo

pre 5 godina

And Serbia is ready to accept no such offer. Serbia is milking the situation because they have nothing to lose wait another 20 years when there is no money in Kosovo and the people are leaving by the thousands every month then they will be forced to return to Serbia who by that time economy will be up to par with Croatia and slovenia

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Truth Hurts

pre 5 godina

"Presidents of Serbia and Kosovo Aleksandar Vucic and Hashim Thaci"

Correction!
Thaci is NOT a president!
Thaci is a former terrorist and accused organ trafficker who now runs an illegal narco entity!
Even the UN did not address "The Snake" as a President.

B92 should address Thaci by his real title... Terrorist!

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Avni

pre 5 godina

Ma nemoj?! Dobrica Cosic vam je to isto resenje predlagao jos pocetkom 90-ih, ali ti i tvoj gazda ga niste slusali, vec ste hteli da stvari resavate djonom! A sada biste se odjenom "razgranicavali". Kasno, Ivice! Vodili ste besmislene ratove po celoj Jugoslaviji, potpisali kapitulaciju u Kumanovu, prihvatili Rezoluciju 1244, pa rasturili SRJ (drzavu kojoj je Rezolucijom 1244 garantovan suverenitet), porazeni ste pred Medjunarodnim sudom pravde, a onda ste jos i u Briselu potpisali definitivnu kapitulaciju i povlacenje srpske policije i sudova s Kosova. I sta sada hocete? Pa nema u politici puj-pike-ne-vazi, povlacenje potpisa, izdvojeno misljenje, izjava dobrog komuniste o samokritici ... to je moglo u komunizmu! potpisano je potpisano, taknuto-maknuto, druze Dacicu ...
(smarate vise s tim Kosovom, 21. decembar 2018 12:12)

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sj

pre 5 godina

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 21 December 2018 13:15)

And when is Russia going to force this on Serbia LOL? You see unlike the US, Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo.
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped and needs a settlement of some kind so it could then redirect its gaze at China, but Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.

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sj

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire
(dan, 21 December 2018 13:16)

The US cannot force Serbia into signing a thing. If it could it would have forced Serbia to recognize an independent Kosovo and people like you would not be on this site.
As far as bombing is concerned well Serbia would acquire the S300 and no US/NATO/EU military aircraft would dare fly over Serbia. Look at Syria, once the S300 were deployed no more Israeli bombing in Syria LOL. This is not 1999.
As far as the EU is concerned Serbia has told them its doing its own thing but more and more chapters are being opened.
The US is more of as windbag.

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diana

pre 5 godina

Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country? As for Dan do you think America will act for your benefit, if so, you are very niave, America acts only in its interests and wanted camp bondsteel in the heart of Europe where they can carry out whatever clandestine operations they want, and threaten Russia. When they have finished they will dump the kosovo Albanians just like they will the Syrian kurds and numerous others!!! You were much better before America got involved but are too stupid to realise it, but I doubt anyone will want you anywhere.

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dan

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire

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Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 5 godina

@sj
“Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement??? ”

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.

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sj

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.

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EA

pre 5 godina

"A slap to those who are slowing it down" Now the question is slowing it down? Dacic who has committed himself not to stop working on countries to withdraw their recognitions or Kosovo government defending its interersts. Just as an example. Serbia must recognise formally Kosovo independence and then real peace talk can start.

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sj

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.

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dan

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire

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Glow

pre 5 godina

Dacic/serbia lives in some kind of delusional state of mind. They tell themselves lies long enough in hopes that those lies will become true but he should know by now that they don't. He keeps implying that USA has changed their views on Kosova but he forgets that USA was the biggest supporter of Kosova's Army just days ago. USA is the biggest supporter of anything that Kosova tries to do. Dacic tries to justify his delusional views he sells to his people and they do not make any sense whatsoever.

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EA

pre 5 godina

"A slap to those who are slowing it down" Now the question is slowing it down? Dacic who has committed himself not to stop working on countries to withdraw their recognitions or Kosovo government defending its interersts. Just as an example. Serbia must recognise formally Kosovo independence and then real peace talk can start.

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Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 5 godina

@sj
“Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement??? ”

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.
(sj, 21 December 2018 12:35)


What has been settled? Tariffs of 100% which your supreme commander doesn't fail to mention day-in-day-out? Or perhaps the Army of Kosova which he also never fails to mention day-in-day-out? If in your deluded mind this counts as a success for Serbia - I cannot but be happy with that success. I am also thinking to ask you step up your fictive investment in Serbia so that these kind of settlements increase in numbers. You would do this favour to me? Wouldn't'ya!?

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo...
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped ...

... Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.
(sj, 21 December 2018 14:17)

How does Russia support Serbia? By selling you the obsolete military carcasses and charge you massive maintenance expenses for revamping them http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a216218/Ruski-poklonjeni-avioni-Srbiju-kostaju-do-230-miliona-evra.html? By bullying Serbia into selling it's oil industry NIS for peanuts to Russians? https://www.blic.rs/biznis/nenadic-zasto-je-nis-prodat-za-400-miliona-evra/n765y24 https://mercury-postlight-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mercury.postlight.com/amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Finsajder.net%2Fsr%2Fsajt%2Fjuznitok%2F1462%2F&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#aoh=15454072531924&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s https://www.kurir.rs/vesti/drustvo/1504633/mutno-policija-istrazuje-prodaju-nis-rusima

Russians are draining the oil reserves in Serbia extremely fast and Serbia doesn't get a dime out of it https://www.blic.rs/biznis/afera-naftna-polja-rusi-bi-mogli-da-opustose-srpske-rezerve-do-2021-a-onda-nam-vrate/xsvm8ek.

If this is how Serbia is winning, well, I wish it keeps winning for ever - just tell me how can I help you with this?!

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diana

pre 5 godina

Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country? As for Dan do you think America will act for your benefit, if so, you are very niave, America acts only in its interests and wanted camp bondsteel in the heart of Europe where they can carry out whatever clandestine operations they want, and threaten Russia. When they have finished they will dump the kosovo Albanians just like they will the Syrian kurds and numerous others!!! You were much better before America got involved but are too stupid to realise it, but I doubt anyone will want you anywhere.

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Truth Hurts

pre 5 godina

"Presidents of Serbia and Kosovo Aleksandar Vucic and Hashim Thaci"

Correction!
Thaci is NOT a president!
Thaci is a former terrorist and accused organ trafficker who now runs an illegal narco entity!
Even the UN did not address "The Snake" as a President.

B92 should address Thaci by his real title... Terrorist!

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sj

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire
(dan, 21 December 2018 13:16)

The US cannot force Serbia into signing a thing. If it could it would have forced Serbia to recognize an independent Kosovo and people like you would not be on this site.
As far as bombing is concerned well Serbia would acquire the S300 and no US/NATO/EU military aircraft would dare fly over Serbia. Look at Syria, once the S300 were deployed no more Israeli bombing in Syria LOL. This is not 1999.
As far as the EU is concerned Serbia has told them its doing its own thing but more and more chapters are being opened.
The US is more of as windbag.

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Zo

pre 5 godina

And Serbia is ready to accept no such offer. Serbia is milking the situation because they have nothing to lose wait another 20 years when there is no money in Kosovo and the people are leaving by the thousands every month then they will be forced to return to Serbia who by that time economy will be up to par with Croatia and slovenia

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Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

diana: "Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country?"

Your question makes no sense. Yes, Kosova is a free and independent country. Most certainly independent of Serbia. Is there even a question of that? From taxes to the army, to a million of other issues, Kosova makes its own decisions and implements them independently of what Serbia wants. That makes Kosova an independent country.

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.

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Avni

pre 5 godina

Ma nemoj?! Dobrica Cosic vam je to isto resenje predlagao jos pocetkom 90-ih, ali ti i tvoj gazda ga niste slusali, vec ste hteli da stvari resavate djonom! A sada biste se odjenom "razgranicavali". Kasno, Ivice! Vodili ste besmislene ratove po celoj Jugoslaviji, potpisali kapitulaciju u Kumanovu, prihvatili Rezoluciju 1244, pa rasturili SRJ (drzavu kojoj je Rezolucijom 1244 garantovan suverenitet), porazeni ste pred Medjunarodnim sudom pravde, a onda ste jos i u Briselu potpisali definitivnu kapitulaciju i povlacenje srpske policije i sudova s Kosova. I sta sada hocete? Pa nema u politici puj-pike-ne-vazi, povlacenje potpisa, izdvojeno misljenje, izjava dobrog komuniste o samokritici ... to je moglo u komunizmu! potpisano je potpisano, taknuto-maknuto, druze Dacicu ...
(smarate vise s tim Kosovom, 21. decembar 2018 12:12)

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dan

pre 5 godina

To sj you will see how powerful the us empire is when they start bombing and destroying iran in the near future and iran is some 20 time greater and 100 times more powerfull then serbia and about the s-300 that syria got it turns out it is a very big shit since israel still bombs syria daily but the media dont report it and putin is silent

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sj

pre 5 godina

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 21 December 2018 13:15)

And when is Russia going to force this on Serbia LOL? You see unlike the US, Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo.
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped and needs a settlement of some kind so it could then redirect its gaze at China, but Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.

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David

pre 5 godina

"5-6 million Albanians" where did you get such figures from when Kosovo only has less than 2 million you must be counting all of Albania with women, children, goats, pigs, sheep, chickens, casper the friendly ghosts

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis,

Albo, so, why are you always begging for recognitions?!?! And don't say you don't, everyone of your demands is based off of Serbian recognition. Recognize us or we'll impose 100%, recognize us at Interpol, recognize us at the UN, or else... you get it right.
Deep down you know you're not Independent, so you come up with all these sorry excuses about we don't car who recognizes us - you're lying to yourself buddy... And, with all you sophmorish moves lately to piss off your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.

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Avni

pre 5 godina

(Zo, 21 December 2018 15:20)

Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova"

Beograd -- Istraživanje analitičko-istraživačkog centra Galup iz SAD pokazuje migraciju stanovništva iz svih delova sveta, Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova".

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=12&dd=21&nav_category=12&nav_id=1484794

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

(sj, 21 December 2018 23:25)

Then explain the chorus of loud whinging and begging Kosova to lift the tariffs by your top dogs!
Make up your mind, tariffs either make no harm to Serbia - as you often say, or tariffs are devastating Serbia - hence you pray for their lifting so visibly.

When and who from NATO or KFOR said so? Any link? What's more, the Americans explicitly said that it is Kosova's sovereign right to decide about the formation of its armed forces.

You have again receded to your default frame of delusional mind using wishful thinking tense "... are about to turn against it ...". You sound so desperate dude.

I strongly suggest you to get a shrink. If that's to expensive for you, then change your failing dodgy chrystal ball or, even better, insist for full refund.

The Trstenik factory amounts to twisting wires for €250 a month for the poor Serb employees. Profits go to US and Serbia gets the pollution.

By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!

As usually, you never add up. Why would you anyway!

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The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Serbia is in a “winning position”??? Is that what you call it when Serbia and RS must pay 100% tariffs to Kosova. Anywhere else, that would be called complete capitulation. Additionally, A new Kosova Army, recently armed with state of the art weapons from the US, free of charge. Perhaps you should consult an English dictionary for the definition of “winning position”.

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Regarding your comments of 21 Dec. 23:25, how could the US be so poor, yet invest so heavily, as you claim, in Serbia. Your arguments are so full of contradictions, even a child can see through them.

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Continued from my previous comments:

There is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?

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JS

pre 5 godina

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land. (Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

The logic here is fairly tight and clean. It is difficult to argue with. It should be faced fairly and squarely.

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Fact check

pre 5 godina

"US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs"

... and the Serbian government provided the company with a 4.6 million euro subsidy.

So the American company will make money and the Serbian taxpayers will pay for it. Great investment.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

LOL Albo, you don't have 5-6 million people in your diaspora let alone KiM - this is including all the people that have left the ghetto you created in KiM. Unless all the drug peddling, organ trafficking, land stealing, Albs come back to KiM to fight for this big cause, your numbers are still skewed. If, by 5-6 million, you're including the "real Albo's" just South of you, then I believe it would be fair for the Serbs to include an ally as well. Don't you think?!?!?

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 21 December 2018 16:26)

Yep the might of Albo power in Kosova is about to bring Serbia to its knees LOL.
The army LOL, even KFOR/NATO have said that they accept no other armed forces in Kosovo but please continue. The very people who supported Kosova are about to turn against it since your illiterates have broken every law in their constitution/agreements.
Why would Serbia worry about Albos since the EU has already stopped any visa free travel and if the Albos don’t lift tariffs very soon it will get worse. Let the EU do the heavy lifting.
Here is another fictive investment for you:
US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs, but when the new facility, which spans 7,000 square meters, is finished 1,000 Serbs will find work there.
Google it. What is even funnier the company has posted it on line. I wounder why they did not open a plant in Kosova????? Surely they are your allies??????

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JS

pre 5 godina

...your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.
(Chi, 21 December 2018 20:11)

Very true. Particularly unwise choices from the leaders of Kosovo as of late. But I'm all in favor. Keep those choices coming. Thank you very much!

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)

Actually, they were supposed to get back into service at the end of 2017 - this, however, didn't happen. But, they are in service as of the end of this year. Serbia will also inherit 8 additional MIG29's from Belarus by end of 2019. Regardless the age, these planes are still used today by 30 Air Forces globally.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)
You see to form an army in Kosovo requires constitutional amendments – the constitution was written by your western bros. Your Albos decided to create an army by themselves so they are pissing on their own laws.
KFOR is a UN group and they have said on a number of occasions that they will not tolerate another armed force in Kosovo. You guys can pretend to march up and down a dusty field but you cannot have an operational army.
Bondsteel is a US base and they only have communication. There no trainers there plus the US has lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria. You should get someone who wins occasionally to train your lot.
Two dozen second hand Humvees is not state of the art equipment; maybe for you guys it is because it’s an upgrade from goats and donkeys but in the real world its nothing.
Well you see new aircraft are extremely expensive for Serbia so for now it’s the upgraded MiGs which are excellent air machines. In fact, Russia is giving several brand new transport and attack helicopters to the Serbian army. Look at the Croats they are trying to buy F16 from Israel and they are about the same age as the MiGs.
Now how many F35s will Kosova purchase again?
Mary, the US companies that invest in Serbia are private companies which are NOT owned by the US government. US corporations are fine but the Government is not. Its debt is $21 trillion by end of this month starting on the 22nd trillion on I January.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 22 December 2018 20:14)

Actually, the EU is paying Serbia compensation for that 100% tax, but when your Albo uncle or aunt goes to the local supermarket and they buy goods which are predominantly made in Serbia they end up paying the higher price so you and your family outside Kosova will have to find another job to send more money to family because everything has gone up. That is how it goes when you have a tariff; ask the Americans who pay more for Chinese goods. It’s not the person selling but the consumer that pays – it’s a TAX on the consumer – understand now?????
No mate the US does not give anything away these days. Those Humvees are all second hand; items that the US no longer needs and nothing more. The only thing that is state of the art is the BS coming out of people like you. The army was created illegally against your own constitution and I am fine with your guys pissing on your own laws LOL.
Kosovo has no industry, it has no tourism, it has no trade; investment is non-existent and even the US companies rather invest in Serbia than with their friends in Kosova. People leaving at every opportunity and population is dwindling.
Now how is Kosova in a winning position again????? Perhaps you are talking about a Kosova on the planet Mars which I am not familiar with so I can’t comment LOL.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 22 December 2018 22:30)
My little fictive Italian Albo the chorus is all part of an orchestrated act. If you’re that stupid to think Kosova has economic power over Serbia then I can’t help you.
Are you aware that the dumb arse EU is paying compensation to Serbian companies for your taxes???? Why because the EU idiots are Kosova’s guarantors LOL.
KFOR, a UN run group, has already said they will not tolerate any armed forces but their own. As far as the US of Piss and Wind is concerned, I’d take what they say with a huge grain of salt. They are about to depart from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Why? As the group ABBA sang; Money, money, money. More to the point a lack of it.
I see you now agree with my fictive investment in Trstenik and yes they will be twisting wires for 250Euros, but that is much more than your Albos in Kosova who will be twisting their hands and getting SFA for their efforts. Why haven’t the US company opened shop in Kosova???? Why?? Are they afraid of polluting it LOL?
“…By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!”

What a stupid question. It’s a PRIVATE company; Yes lets repeat that for our resident goat herders; it’s a PRIVATELY owned company registered on the NY stock exchange. It is NOT owned by the US government. Understandy now???????????? What school did you go to? The same one where Rastus Haradjin got his MBA?

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Glow

pre 5 godina

What about those protests in Serbia against the government?? Not hearing much about that. Ooops I forgot there is no free speech in Serbia and media is run by the dictatorship and is not allowed to report anything. EU can't wait for Serbia to join them...in the next 1000 years that is.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

here is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:47)

Maco, last time I looked, NATO is an organization and not a country. So, it begs the question, "how can a "so called" State be an "ally" of an organization. You might have the support of this corrupt and misled multi-national organization, but an ally is a stretch to say the least. You do understand that KiM is NOT a part of this organization, right?!?!?

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Truth Hurts

pre 5 godina

"Presidents of Serbia and Kosovo Aleksandar Vucic and Hashim Thaci"

Correction!
Thaci is NOT a president!
Thaci is a former terrorist and accused organ trafficker who now runs an illegal narco entity!
Even the UN did not address "The Snake" as a President.

B92 should address Thaci by his real title... Terrorist!

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sj

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.

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EA

pre 5 godina

"A slap to those who are slowing it down" Now the question is slowing it down? Dacic who has committed himself not to stop working on countries to withdraw their recognitions or Kosovo government defending its interersts. Just as an example. Serbia must recognise formally Kosovo independence and then real peace talk can start.

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sj

pre 5 godina

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 21 December 2018 13:15)

And when is Russia going to force this on Serbia LOL? You see unlike the US, Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo.
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped and needs a settlement of some kind so it could then redirect its gaze at China, but Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.

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sj

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire
(dan, 21 December 2018 13:16)

The US cannot force Serbia into signing a thing. If it could it would have forced Serbia to recognize an independent Kosovo and people like you would not be on this site.
As far as bombing is concerned well Serbia would acquire the S300 and no US/NATO/EU military aircraft would dare fly over Serbia. Look at Syria, once the S300 were deployed no more Israeli bombing in Syria LOL. This is not 1999.
As far as the EU is concerned Serbia has told them its doing its own thing but more and more chapters are being opened.
The US is more of as windbag.

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Zo

pre 5 godina

And Serbia is ready to accept no such offer. Serbia is milking the situation because they have nothing to lose wait another 20 years when there is no money in Kosovo and the people are leaving by the thousands every month then they will be forced to return to Serbia who by that time economy will be up to par with Croatia and slovenia

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diana

pre 5 godina

Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country? As for Dan do you think America will act for your benefit, if so, you are very niave, America acts only in its interests and wanted camp bondsteel in the heart of Europe where they can carry out whatever clandestine operations they want, and threaten Russia. When they have finished they will dump the kosovo Albanians just like they will the Syrian kurds and numerous others!!! You were much better before America got involved but are too stupid to realise it, but I doubt anyone will want you anywhere.

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Albanopolis

pre 5 godina

diana: "Why should Serbia recognise kosove EA if as you claim kosovo is a free independent country?"

Your question makes no sense. Yes, Kosova is a free and independent country. Most certainly independent of Serbia. Is there even a question of that? From taxes to the army, to a million of other issues, Kosova makes its own decisions and implements them independently of what Serbia wants. That makes Kosova an independent country.

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.

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dan

pre 5 godina

The usa is the empire in this world no other country is if the usa wants they can force serbia to sign a peace agreement the usa can sanction or bomb serbia again if the usa is angry or they can close the eu door for serbia as the eu is a colony of the us empire

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis,

Albo, so, why are you always begging for recognitions?!?! And don't say you don't, everyone of your demands is based off of Serbian recognition. Recognize us or we'll impose 100%, recognize us at Interpol, recognize us at the UN, or else... you get it right.
Deep down you know you're not Independent, so you come up with all these sorry excuses about we don't car who recognizes us - you're lying to yourself buddy... And, with all you sophmorish moves lately to piss off your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.

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Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 5 godina

@sj
“Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement??? ”

Very simple.
Because Russia will say yes to the agreement.

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

The gullibility of people on this forum is incredible. There was and never will be any agreement signed. Why would Serbia sign anything when you have the "mighty" US of Piss and Wind proposing a settlement???
The Serbs are leading the US by their noses and the halfwits don't even realize it LOL. Does anyone think that after all the sanctions and hardship Serbia endured, and its now in a winning position, it will abandon all to settle for a portion of Kosovo???? If you do then can I trade you a couple of magic beans for your house.
(sj, 21 December 2018 12:35)


What has been settled? Tariffs of 100% which your supreme commander doesn't fail to mention day-in-day-out? Or perhaps the Army of Kosova which he also never fails to mention day-in-day-out? If in your deluded mind this counts as a success for Serbia - I cannot but be happy with that success. I am also thinking to ask you step up your fictive investment in Serbia so that these kind of settlements increase in numbers. You would do this favour to me? Wouldn't'ya!?

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 21 December 2018 16:26)

Yep the might of Albo power in Kosova is about to bring Serbia to its knees LOL.
The army LOL, even KFOR/NATO have said that they accept no other armed forces in Kosovo but please continue. The very people who supported Kosova are about to turn against it since your illiterates have broken every law in their constitution/agreements.
Why would Serbia worry about Albos since the EU has already stopped any visa free travel and if the Albos don’t lift tariffs very soon it will get worse. Let the EU do the heavy lifting.
Here is another fictive investment for you:
US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs, but when the new facility, which spans 7,000 square meters, is finished 1,000 Serbs will find work there.
Google it. What is even funnier the company has posted it on line. I wounder why they did not open a plant in Kosova????? Surely they are your allies??????

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Glow

pre 5 godina

Dacic/serbia lives in some kind of delusional state of mind. They tell themselves lies long enough in hopes that those lies will become true but he should know by now that they don't. He keeps implying that USA has changed their views on Kosova but he forgets that USA was the biggest supporter of Kosova's Army just days ago. USA is the biggest supporter of anything that Kosova tries to do. Dacic tries to justify his delusional views he sells to his people and they do not make any sense whatsoever.

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dan

pre 5 godina

To sj you will see how powerful the us empire is when they start bombing and destroying iran in the near future and iran is some 20 time greater and 100 times more powerfull then serbia and about the s-300 that syria got it turns out it is a very big shit since israel still bombs syria daily but the media dont report it and putin is silent

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

... Russia actually supports Serbia whereas the US supports no one except itself. Its in Russia’s interest to have the whole of Kosovo...
The only reason the US is making these offers is because its financially strapped ...

... Serbia and Russia did not come down in the last shower and it’s the whole of Kosovo or get stuffed, but said nicely.
(sj, 21 December 2018 14:17)

How does Russia support Serbia? By selling you the obsolete military carcasses and charge you massive maintenance expenses for revamping them http://rs.n1info.com/Vesti/a216218/Ruski-poklonjeni-avioni-Srbiju-kostaju-do-230-miliona-evra.html? By bullying Serbia into selling it's oil industry NIS for peanuts to Russians? https://www.blic.rs/biznis/nenadic-zasto-je-nis-prodat-za-400-miliona-evra/n765y24 https://mercury-postlight-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mercury.postlight.com/amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Finsajder.net%2Fsr%2Fsajt%2Fjuznitok%2F1462%2F&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#aoh=15454072531924&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s https://www.kurir.rs/vesti/drustvo/1504633/mutno-policija-istrazuje-prodaju-nis-rusima

Russians are draining the oil reserves in Serbia extremely fast and Serbia doesn't get a dime out of it https://www.blic.rs/biznis/afera-naftna-polja-rusi-bi-mogli-da-opustose-srpske-rezerve-do-2021-a-onda-nam-vrate/xsvm8ek.

If this is how Serbia is winning, well, I wish it keeps winning for ever - just tell me how can I help you with this?!

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David

pre 5 godina

"5-6 million Albanians" where did you get such figures from when Kosovo only has less than 2 million you must be counting all of Albania with women, children, goats, pigs, sheep, chickens, casper the friendly ghosts

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JS

pre 5 godina

Recognition doesn't make you independent. UN doesn't make you independent. Interpol doesn't make you independent. And you can't ask for recognition unless you are independent. Nobody's asking for the recognition of Catalonia, because they are not an independent country yet. Clear on this one?

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land. (Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

The logic here is fairly tight and clean. It is difficult to argue with. It should be faced fairly and squarely.

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Avni

pre 5 godina

(Zo, 21 December 2018 15:20)

Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova"

Beograd -- Istraživanje analitičko-istraživačkog centra Galup iz SAD pokazuje migraciju stanovništva iz svih delova sveta, Srbiji preti još veći "odliv mozgova".

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=12&dd=21&nav_category=12&nav_id=1484794

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Tom L'Orizi, 22 December 2018 22:30)
My little fictive Italian Albo the chorus is all part of an orchestrated act. If you’re that stupid to think Kosova has economic power over Serbia then I can’t help you.
Are you aware that the dumb arse EU is paying compensation to Serbian companies for your taxes???? Why because the EU idiots are Kosova’s guarantors LOL.
KFOR, a UN run group, has already said they will not tolerate any armed forces but their own. As far as the US of Piss and Wind is concerned, I’d take what they say with a huge grain of salt. They are about to depart from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Why? As the group ABBA sang; Money, money, money. More to the point a lack of it.
I see you now agree with my fictive investment in Trstenik and yes they will be twisting wires for 250Euros, but that is much more than your Albos in Kosova who will be twisting their hands and getting SFA for their efforts. Why haven’t the US company opened shop in Kosova???? Why?? Are they afraid of polluting it LOL?
“…By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!”

What a stupid question. It’s a PRIVATE company; Yes lets repeat that for our resident goat herders; it’s a PRIVATELY owned company registered on the NY stock exchange. It is NOT owned by the US government. Understandy now???????????? What school did you go to? The same one where Rastus Haradjin got his MBA?

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Avni

pre 5 godina

Ma nemoj?! Dobrica Cosic vam je to isto resenje predlagao jos pocetkom 90-ih, ali ti i tvoj gazda ga niste slusali, vec ste hteli da stvari resavate djonom! A sada biste se odjenom "razgranicavali". Kasno, Ivice! Vodili ste besmislene ratove po celoj Jugoslaviji, potpisali kapitulaciju u Kumanovu, prihvatili Rezoluciju 1244, pa rasturili SRJ (drzavu kojoj je Rezolucijom 1244 garantovan suverenitet), porazeni ste pred Medjunarodnim sudom pravde, a onda ste jos i u Briselu potpisali definitivnu kapitulaciju i povlacenje srpske policije i sudova s Kosova. I sta sada hocete? Pa nema u politici puj-pike-ne-vazi, povlacenje potpisa, izdvojeno misljenje, izjava dobrog komuniste o samokritici ... to je moglo u komunizmu! potpisano je potpisano, taknuto-maknuto, druze Dacicu ...
(smarate vise s tim Kosovom, 21. decembar 2018 12:12)

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JS

pre 5 godina

...your allies, NATO, and EU your slowly isolating yourselves even more.
(Chi, 21 December 2018 20:11)

Very true. Particularly unwise choices from the leaders of Kosovo as of late. But I'm all in favor. Keep those choices coming. Thank you very much!

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Kosova is asking Serbia to recognize it and to solve all the open issues to eliminate/reduce the potential for conflict in the future. Both sides will benefit from peace, stability, reducing tensions. But it seems like the warmongering Serbs don't want peace. It takes two to tango, and if you don't want peace and normalization of relations, it won't happen. But be careful what you wish for: war is an unpredictable business, you might get in but you might not be able to get out. It's not 1999 anymore. Even if you get past KFOR, you're still dealing with 5-6 million Albanians; if you think that you'll just walk in and ethnically cleanse Albanians from Kosova, you're clearly in lala land.
(Albanopolis, 21 December 2018 17:43)

LOL Albo, you don't have 5-6 million people in your diaspora let alone KiM - this is including all the people that have left the ghetto you created in KiM. Unless all the drug peddling, organ trafficking, land stealing, Albs come back to KiM to fight for this big cause, your numbers are still skewed. If, by 5-6 million, you're including the "real Albo's" just South of you, then I believe it would be fair for the Serbs to include an ally as well. Don't you think?!?!?

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Continued from my previous comments:

There is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?

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sj

pre 5 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 22 December 2018 20:14)

Actually, the EU is paying Serbia compensation for that 100% tax, but when your Albo uncle or aunt goes to the local supermarket and they buy goods which are predominantly made in Serbia they end up paying the higher price so you and your family outside Kosova will have to find another job to send more money to family because everything has gone up. That is how it goes when you have a tariff; ask the Americans who pay more for Chinese goods. It’s not the person selling but the consumer that pays – it’s a TAX on the consumer – understand now?????
No mate the US does not give anything away these days. Those Humvees are all second hand; items that the US no longer needs and nothing more. The only thing that is state of the art is the BS coming out of people like you. The army was created illegally against your own constitution and I am fine with your guys pissing on your own laws LOL.
Kosovo has no industry, it has no tourism, it has no trade; investment is non-existent and even the US companies rather invest in Serbia than with their friends in Kosova. People leaving at every opportunity and population is dwindling.
Now how is Kosova in a winning position again????? Perhaps you are talking about a Kosova on the planet Mars which I am not familiar with so I can’t comment LOL.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Serbia is in a “winning position”??? Is that what you call it when Serbia and RS must pay 100% tariffs to Kosova. Anywhere else, that would be called complete capitulation. Additionally, A new Kosova Army, recently armed with state of the art weapons from the US, free of charge. Perhaps you should consult an English dictionary for the definition of “winning position”.

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Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

(sj, 21 December 2018 23:25)

Then explain the chorus of loud whinging and begging Kosova to lift the tariffs by your top dogs!
Make up your mind, tariffs either make no harm to Serbia - as you often say, or tariffs are devastating Serbia - hence you pray for their lifting so visibly.

When and who from NATO or KFOR said so? Any link? What's more, the Americans explicitly said that it is Kosova's sovereign right to decide about the formation of its armed forces.

You have again receded to your default frame of delusional mind using wishful thinking tense "... are about to turn against it ...". You sound so desperate dude.

I strongly suggest you to get a shrink. If that's to expensive for you, then change your failing dodgy chrystal ball or, even better, insist for full refund.

The Trstenik factory amounts to twisting wires for €250 a month for the poor Serb employees. Profits go to US and Serbia gets the pollution.

By the way, how come the dirt poor USA - as you often like to portray them - have money to invest in Serbia?!

As usually, you never add up. Why would you anyway!

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Chi

pre 5 godina

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)

Actually, they were supposed to get back into service at the end of 2017 - this, however, didn't happen. But, they are in service as of the end of this year. Serbia will also inherit 8 additional MIG29's from Belarus by end of 2019. Regardless the age, these planes are still used today by 30 Air Forces globally.

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sj

pre 5 godina

(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:34)
You see to form an army in Kosovo requires constitutional amendments – the constitution was written by your western bros. Your Albos decided to create an army by themselves so they are pissing on their own laws.
KFOR is a UN group and they have said on a number of occasions that they will not tolerate another armed force in Kosovo. You guys can pretend to march up and down a dusty field but you cannot have an operational army.
Bondsteel is a US base and they only have communication. There no trainers there plus the US has lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and now Syria. You should get someone who wins occasionally to train your lot.
Two dozen second hand Humvees is not state of the art equipment; maybe for you guys it is because it’s an upgrade from goats and donkeys but in the real world its nothing.
Well you see new aircraft are extremely expensive for Serbia so for now it’s the upgraded MiGs which are excellent air machines. In fact, Russia is giving several brand new transport and attack helicopters to the Serbian army. Look at the Croats they are trying to buy F16 from Israel and they are about the same age as the MiGs.
Now how many F35s will Kosova purchase again?
Mary, the US companies that invest in Serbia are private companies which are NOT owned by the US government. US corporations are fine but the Government is not. Its debt is $21 trillion by end of this month starting on the 22nd trillion on I January.

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Mary

pre 5 godina

SJ,
Regarding your comments of 21 Dec. 23:25, how could the US be so poor, yet invest so heavily, as you claim, in Serbia. Your arguments are so full of contradictions, even a child can see through them.

Why, after Russia donated 6 Soviet Era Migs, did Serbia have to pay millions of dollars to Russia to repair them, and yet are not battle worthy.

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Glow

pre 5 godina

What about those protests in Serbia against the government?? Not hearing much about that. Ooops I forgot there is no free speech in Serbia and media is run by the dictatorship and is not allowed to report anything. EU can't wait for Serbia to join them...in the next 1000 years that is.

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Chi

pre 5 godina

here is no contradiction having two Armies, one of Kosova and one of NATO in Kosova, since they are allies. Furthermore, the Kosova Army is being groomed by the US to be part of NATO, and to be based at Camp Bondsteel with American advisors. That is why the shipload of state of the art weapons donated by the US to The Kosova Army conform to NATO standards.
Any Question?
(Mary, 23 December 2018 18:47)

Maco, last time I looked, NATO is an organization and not a country. So, it begs the question, "how can a "so called" State be an "ally" of an organization. You might have the support of this corrupt and misled multi-national organization, but an ally is a stretch to say the least. You do understand that KiM is NOT a part of this organization, right?!?!?

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Fact check

pre 5 godina

"US company Amphenol Automotive Technology, yes US opened in Trstenik, Serbia on 12 December 2018. Currently employs 350 Serbs"

... and the Serbian government provided the company with a 4.6 million euro subsidy.

So the American company will make money and the Serbian taxpayers will pay for it. Great investment.

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