Thaci: Final deal to include mutual recognition

The Serbian people say NO DEAL, NO RECOGNITION, NO LAND SWAP AND NO ALBO CRIMMINALS. KOSOVO IS SERBIA.

We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!
(Jack, 11 September 2018 12:58)

Why are Albanians so ignorant? Is this a problem with their educational system or a genetic issue?
According to the Albanian Institute of Statistics in Tirana the country’s total fertility rate of 1.51 children born per woman is one of the lowest in the world”.
“ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.”
Since that is the case in Albania, what are the chances that the population in Kosovo is just as bad????? Kosovo has over 500,000 living outside plus more leaving everyday so it would be less than 1 million living there and most would be elderly.
Sorry lad but Tito is dead and no one is giving the Albos in Kosovo a handout any more, especially the west LOL.

If you had carefully listened to Vucic's speech in Mitrovica it would have given you an insight into what will really happen to Kosovo. Vucic said it will take 10 to 15 years to resolve Kosovo which means nothing will happen in Kosovo; no investment and no privatization. That's the death knell for the Albos since it also means status quo.

@ genti

genti get your facts in order and stop writing nonsense. albanians originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey). albanians are not from this region. Serbs are the indigenous people of this region this is our region. Albanians are bandits who use/steal/claim other peoples' culture/history etc. Look at the region today where ever there are albanians there are problems, albanians cannot coexist with other people and live like normal people. The only thing on albanians minds is stealing other countries' territories and committing ethnic cleansing. What kind of a sick people is that? Leading up to aggression on Serbia there were some normal albanians in Kosmet but they were eliminated by uck terrorist bandits

NO Recognition for Kosovo Albos!! -- NEVER EVER-- you have a recognized country it's called ALBANIA, they miss ALL of you.

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!(Jack, 11. septembar 2018 12:58)You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam during the Ottoman occupation. The Minority being the financially impoverished Ottoman Turks that were in turn incapable of escaping after the swift collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
(Bruno, 11 September 2018 13:27)

@ @ brunoaj & jack-off - LOL, hilarious how "both" of you misspell the word "recognize", LOL
Albanians using different nicks hoping it will look like there's more of them, LOL....forget it Homefries, your days of playing the "victim" card are long gone...;)

Everyone has their starting position and then the negotiations and compromises begin. Problem is, I don't think "compromise" is a word in the Albanian dictionary.

(sj, 13 September 2018 16:32)

Let me break it down for you sj and your baby sitter:

On your initiative, without anyone forcing you nor tricking you into it, you involved the University of Chicago library in the issue of answering the question of Illyrian origin of Albanians.

This suggests/hints that you seem to be aware of some books available there which prove your assertion that Albanians are not of Illyrian origin, a thing you don't hide to  be your preferred belief anyway, otherwise what's the point of your involving the University of Chicago into this if you don't know if that institution genuinely has books to prove your assertion? What if University of Chicago does have books or any other literature showing that Albanians indeed originate from the Illyrians and both you and I, and your baby sitter, are not aware of it!?

It's unclear how can you be aware of the existence of the highly regarded school of Balkan studies within the University of Chicago - as you put it - but you aren't aware of their conclusion, or their teachings about this matter and you still remain a staunch believer that Albanians are not of Illyrian heritage!? What literature have you been able to see to back up your point? One title or author will suffice. Dodging the question is not an academic discipline.

Say hello to your baby sitter, she is rather protective when it comes to you, highly regarded quality in her field of work though.

Odd, I've never seen Thaci with this much confidence!
It looks like Thaci has secured Vucic's cooperation and the international community has had put in place the assurances needed to get both Thaci and Vucic on board!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 11 September 2018 13:53)

Vucic said in his speech in Mitrovica the time line to settle Kosovo issue was between 10 and 15 years LOL. By that time there will be no Kosova.

Thaci forgot to add "I want" to the beginning of his statement.

Does Thaci the idiot, even know the definition of mutual? Doesn’t Thaci and the rest of the mentally handicapped leadership in Pristina realize neither Vucic, nor anyone else in Serbia, needs or will ever require, “recognition” from criminal gang leaders of a fenced-in ghetto.

Does Thaci the idiot, even know the definition of mutual? Doesn’t Thaci and the rest of the mentally handicapped leadership in Pristina realize neither Vucic, nor anyone else in Serbia, needs or will ever require, “recognition” from criminal gang leaders of a fenced-in ghetto.

Thaci claims Serbia isn't negotiating because 'it loves Kosovo.'
On the contrary, Serbia does love Kosovo. Her greatest monasteries and spirituality lie there. What historical landmarks have the Albanians bestowed upon that land? Nothing. The only thing they will leave to posterity is petrol stations. No, It's the current occupiers of that land that Serbia has no love for. And understandably so.

There is another problem with the so called recognition of Kosovo. Mutual recognition is not possible with the name "Kosovo" which is engraved in the Serbian Constitution and history. You can't steal a countries history which is exactly what the Albanians are trying to do. FYROM is close to stealing Greek history with the Greek Macedonia name from the Godless Alexi Tsipras. The government of Montenegro is trying to sell of it's Serbian roots to the highest bidder.

"You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam"
(Bruno)

On the contrary, Illyria stretched all the way from Slovenia to Northern Greece. Croats, Bosnians and even Montenegrins accept their Illyrian ancestry, same as Albanians.
Serbs like to say they are a mixture of Slavs and Vlachs, but they "forget" to say that Vlachs were also Romanised/Latinised Illyrians. You have more Albanian blood than we have Slavic blood ;)

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!

Please show me one piece of factual information that says albanians are illyrian. Its so ridiculous. Youre turkish gypsies.

Odd, I've never seen Thaci with this much confidence!
It looks like Thaci has secured Vucic's cooperation and the international community has had put in place the assurances needed to get both Thaci and Vucic on board!!!

(icj1, 11 September 2018 23:39)

You can’t prove a connection between Albos and Illyrians and you have nothing to prove your statement that Albos have “also bestowed historical landmarks upon that land.”

Albos claim they are indigenous to the Balkans, but there is NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING to support such a claim. Not even a cave painting LOL.

Everyone has their starting position and then the negotiations and compromises begin. Problem is, I don't think "compromise" is a word in the Albanian dictionary.
(Zoran, 11 September 2018 16:45)

What happened to "more than autonomy,less than independence"?

It looks like Serbia and Kosovo will exchange some territories and move on as separate countries.

Final deal all that, and you and Vucic in the Hague.

Serbia does love Kosovo. Her greatest monasteries and spirituality lie there. What historical landmarks have the Albanians bestowed upon that land? Nothing. The only thing they will leave to posterity is petrol stations.
(PEN, 11 September 2018 21:22)

Well, you answered your own question that Albanians also bestowed historical landmarks upon that land. So you confirmed that both Serbs and Albanians have bestowed upon that land their respective historical landmarks. There is now law that says that a "monastery" is the only man-made structure that can be defined as a historical landmark!

There is another problem with the so called recognition of Kosovo. Mutual recognition is not possible with the name "Kosovo" which is engraved in the Serbian Constitution and history. You can't steal a countries history which is exactly what the Albanians are trying to do. FYROM is close to stealing Greek history with the Greek Macedonia name from the Godless Alexi Tsipras. The government of Montenegro is trying to sell of it's Serbian roots to the highest bidder.
(Jugoslavija, 11 September 2018 23:46)

Albania is just fine and would do.

Still 2aiting to see some facts on how albanians are illyrian....

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!(Jack, 11. septembar 2018 12:58)You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam during the Ottoman occupation. The Minority being the financially impoverished Ottoman Turks that were in turn incapable of escaping after the swift collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

The Serbs that keep scratching their heads to find a link between Albanians and Illyrians should go no further than the Albanian language itself. There are Albanian words used today that are exactly the same as they were in Illyrian. Those scientists who wonder what ancient Balkan tribe the Albanians descend from, generally disagree whether it was Dacians, Thracians, or Illyrians, but nobody doubts the fact that Albanians are indigenous to this region. Besides, the modern Albanian language includes borrowed latin words that were used around the times of Emperor Justinian. You can doubt that Albanians and Illyrians were one and the same, but there is no disagreement over the fact that you Serbs arrived in the Balkans many centuries later... and I suppose plundered, murdered, and destroyed everything as you usually do. Ptolemy's Map is also another point of reference. I bet you won't find Serbia there, but Albanians are easy to spot, exactly where they are today.

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago....

(sj, 14 September 2018 11:09)

And the professor's name is?

"You can’t prove a connection between Albos and Illyrians"

ALBANOPOLIS!!!!!!

Ptolemy: https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_4ksBAAAAMAAJ#page/n229/mode/1up

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

can you tell us the titles of the books and their corredponding authors you have borrowed from the University of Chicago library to back up your assertion about Albanians not being the descendants of the Illyrians?
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Unfortunately, Tom can’t realize that it was sj who first asked for a reference.
sj made no assertion.
Tom is deluded.

sj: "Albani or Albanoi was the name of one Illyrian Tribe. However, there were many tribes belonging to the Illyrians"
It's not uncommon that as nations develop, the name of one tribe is gradually used to describe a much larger group of people. The same is true with franks, alemani, poles, russian and I suspect Serbs as well.

sj: "Proof must be from reputable scholars..."

Johann Thunmann, Norbert Jokl, Maximilian Lambertz, Gustav Meyer, Milan Šufflay, Karl Reinhold, Franz Nopcsa, Ludwig von Thallóczy, Konstantin Jireček, Alfred Rappaport, Carl Patsch, Edwin Jacques, Noel Malcolm, Agniya Desnitskaya, Vladimir Orel, Holger Pedersen, Franz Bopp, Waclaw Cimochowski, Vinkentij Makušev, Johann von Hahn, Robert Elsie, Eric Hamp, Aleksandar Stipčević , Nicholas Hammond, James Mallory, Douglas Adams, Nicola Iorga, Margaret Hasluck, Theodor Ippen, Marco La Piana, Georg Stadtmüller, Alain Ducellier - I'll be running out of characters should I continue?

How about this: Noel Malcolm: http://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/nm/kosovo.html

Let me break it down for you.... (followed by an endless rant of incomprehensible gibberish)
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Tom, the only breakdown that you successfully demonstrated was your mental breakdown.
Now run to your keyboard and pound away endlessly, that is if you can tear yourself away from you infantile video games.
Tom is (chronically) deluded.

When Benjamin W. Fortson et al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied for centuries France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.
You people have a serious drinking problem.
(sj, 14 September 2018 11:11)

So, you appointed yourself as a one-and-only global authority in charge to appoint Benjamin W. Fortson as the only intelectual authority capable to decide whether (or not) Albanians are the descendants of the Illyrians!???

Can I talk to your baby sitter please? She must be spiking your bottle!!!

"When Benjamin W. Fortson al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT. "

I'm sorry, but who the f are you that I have to "come back and talk to". You are a filthy propagandist for Greater Serbia built on the bloodshed of its neighbors, and one who has no qualms about denying horrendous massacres done in its name. You are the last person I would count as objective on this matter.

You asked for the name of any scholar that thinks that Albanians are indigenous to the Balkans, and I brought you some 30 odd names of historians and linguists that for over the past 100 years have studied the origins of Albanians, and they all conclude that Albanians are indigenous, and they have been here before Serbs. Most of them draw a direct line between Illyrians and Albanians, some are more sceptic and consider Illyro-Thracian or Dacian lineage. But no respectable scholar maintain that Albanians are not indigenous. Maybe you can ask your neighbor about Eric Hamp of the University of Chicago, who is "widely respected as a leading authority on Indo-European linguistics, with particular interests in Celtic languages and Albanian", that after analyzing competing theories, concluded that "Of course, in any event we could prove the Albanians did, and never that they did not, precede the Slavs."

Does Serbian know the history ??
They where ignorant in religion .Greek and Albanian orthodox teach them how to become orthodox .Albanians are influenced from all religion because geographically were in the center of all .
What 3 fingers or churches are talking ignorant Serbian ???
Albanian in kosova choose Muslim simply to be the opposite of them in all points
Slavic people - you are millions , but all times will kiss Albanin ass . You went to kosova and brought all army to civilian population ..big tough .....remember don't duck with Albanians -- the end will be bad
Look at the neighbours : Croatian ; Bulgarian ; Albanians literally don't need you around ....further more Macedonian and Greeks play politic
Wake up stupid Serbs and behave

Albanian orthodox

(Dee, 12 September 2018 16:07)

What a load of BS. The Illyrians left no written language, so no one can compare Albanian to Illyrian. You need definitive proof and not spurious claims. I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.

All European languages have borrowed words from Latin as well as Classical Greek, including the Serbian language, and according to your logic they are all indigenous to the region.

Ptolemy's Map is worthless for your argument. Albani or Albanoi was the name of one Illyrian Tribe. However, there were many tribes belonging to the Illyrians, so according to you all Albos are descendants of the one tribe or Albani while there are no descendants of the other 20 or so tribes - amazing.

Your clutching at straws. Proof must be from reputable scholars not half-baked semi educated so called archaeologist/anthropologist from Albania.

Now, now, me thinks you do drink too much oh fictive Italian Albo. Its your dumbos that make the claim they descend from Illyrians not me. Are you also dyslexic as well?
I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago – hey the US are your friends not ours. I’m giving you a chance.
Making spurious claims does not show your intellect mate. It only makes you look stupid.

If all that investment I have mentioned is imaginary please tell us how much the west has invested in Kosova? This should be good for a laugh.
(sj, 13 September 2018 14:57)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University, which in your opinion, shed light into the Illyrian/Albanian issue and it falls on you to elaborate your assertion through disclosing more details about these alleged books. Otherwise, what's the point you mentioning some books in Chicago University and avoiding to talk about them?!

I could also say that there are books in Chicago University library proving the opposite of your claim and then, like you, dodge the further questions.

I advise you to stick to fictive investments in Serbia as you don't accept the challenge in real world matters.

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Unfortunately, Tom still doesn’t realize that sj never asserted to be “aware of some books”.
sj asked for a reference from a reputable library with an extensive Balkan studies collection.
The assertion of being “aware of some books” come from Tom’s fictive imagination.
Tom is deluded.

Unrealistic.

... Your clutching at straws. Proof must be from reputable scholars not half-baked semi educated so called archaeologist/anthropologist from Albania.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

Look who's talking!?

The self appointment world authority with assumed power to decide who's reputable and who's not in archeology and anthropology, no less than the investor of gazillions of fictive € & US$ in Serbia, the man himself - the little sj in his biggest form.

By the way, can you tell us the titles of the books and their corredponding authors you have borrowed from the University of Chicago library to back up your assertion about Albanians not being the descendants of the Illyrians?

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Tom still doesn’t realize that sj never asserted to be “aware of some books”.
sj asked for a reference from a highly reputable library with an extensive Balkan studies collection.
sj made no assertion.
The non-existent assertion comes from Tom’s fictive imagination.
Tom is deluded.

Vucic and Thaci are wating time.

Ljajić: Problem dijaloga to što Tači nema podršku u Prištini
https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=09&dd=12&nav_category=11&nav_id=1442743

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Fictive Italian Albo its true dyslexia is a problem with you.
I asserted nothing, nor did I say that I was aware of any books in Chicago University that shed light on Albos.
I said “I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.”
Understandy now????????

Now what about those Kosva investment????

sj: "I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago"
University of Chicago? Sure, Eric Hamp: "Of course, in any event we could prove the Albanians did, and never that they did not, precede the Slavs."

Benjamin W. Fortson (University of Michigan) - Indo European Language and Culture: An introduction:
"The widespread assertion is that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian, spoken in much the same region during classical times"

sj: "The Illyrians left no written language, so no one can compare Albanian to Illyrian."
Illyrians left no written language, but whatever words, names, toponyms they left, relate to Albanian. Even if there is not enough written language for definite link, for the same reason you cannot disprove. Also Illyrian most likely was a group of related languages and not a unified one.

sj: "All European languages have borrowed words from Latin as well as Classical Greek, including the Serbian language, and according to your logic they are all indigenous to the region"
The amount of archaic Latin borrowed from the Romans in Albanian (1/3 of current vocabulary) shows close relations over the long period of time. Also the Latin archaic form of borrowings are of western romance and not eastern (as in Romanian). The form of the latin words as they entered and later were transformed by the Albanian, also indicated that they could not have been borrowed post-imperial period.

I think most of the bloggers on this forum should do a DNA test before commenting further.

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Now, now, me thinks you do drink too much oh fictive Italian Albo. Its your dumbos that make the claim they descend from Illyrians not me. Are you also dyslexic as well?
I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago – hey the US are your friends not ours. I’m giving you a chance.
Making spurious claims does not show your intellect mate. It only makes you look stupid.

If all that investment I have mentioned is imaginary please tell us how much the west has invested in Kosova? This should be good for a laugh.

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Apologies for typo errors in my previous post:

a̶p̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ should have been appointed, and

c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶d̶p̶o̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ should have been corresponding.

Unfortunately, Tom can’t realize that it was sj who first asked for a reference.
sj made no assertion.
Tom is deluded.
(The baby sitter, 13 September 2018 15:22)

Sadly, when they get cornered they start deluding. It must an Albanian genetic trait; ICJ1 does the same.

I advise you to stick to fictive investments in Serbia as you don't accept the challenge in real world matters.
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Fictive Italian Albo its true dyslexia is a problem with you.
I asserted nothing, nor did I say that I was aware of any books in Chicago University that shed light on Albos.
I said “I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.”
Understandy now????????

Now what about those Kosva investment????

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago.
However, these same authors have no firm evidence connecting one to the other to support that hypothesis. Since Illyrians left no written language they can’t compare Illyrian and Albanian languages so the claim that Illyrians and Albanians are the same is a nonsense.
Dodging what question mate? you are delirious. When you can’t prove your claims you then use the ICJ1 tactic and try and turn it around and demand I produce literature to support my statement LOL.
Well the fact they don’t teach that Albos are Illyrians at Chicago is proof enough. Why would they keep books on something they don’t teach LOL.
Now where is that list of real Kosova investment??? Come on stop this nonsense and answer the question.

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago.
However, these same authors have no firm evidence connecting one to the other to support that hypothesis. Since Illyrians left no written language they can’t compare Illyrian and Albanian languages so the claim that Illyrians and Albanians are the same is a nonsense.
Dodging what question mate? you are delirious. When you can’t prove your claims you then use the ICJ1 tactic and try and turn it around and demand I produce literature to support my statement LOL.
Well the fact they don’t teach that Albos are Illyrians at Chicago is proof enough. Why would they keep books on something they don’t teach LOL.
Now where is that list of real Kosova investment??? Come on stop this nonsense and answer the question.

(Albanopolis, 13 September 2018 21:07)

When Benjamin W. Fortson et al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied for centuries France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.
You people have a serious drinking problem.

(Albanopolis, 13 September 2018 21:07)

When Benjamin W. Fortson al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.


You people have a serious drinking problem.

(Tom L'Orizi, 14 September 2018 12:55)

No, I only used him as an example. Your conclusions lead only to believe that you are hitting the bottle too much. Now where is that list of investments in Kosova. Come on.

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!(Jack, 11. septembar 2018 12:58)You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam during the Ottoman occupation. The Minority being the financially impoverished Ottoman Turks that were in turn incapable of escaping after the swift collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!

"You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam"
(Bruno)

On the contrary, Illyria stretched all the way from Slovenia to Northern Greece. Croats, Bosnians and even Montenegrins accept their Illyrian ancestry, same as Albanians.
Serbs like to say they are a mixture of Slavs and Vlachs, but they "forget" to say that Vlachs were also Romanised/Latinised Illyrians. You have more Albanian blood than we have Slavic blood ;)

Odd, I've never seen Thaci with this much confidence!
It looks like Thaci has secured Vucic's cooperation and the international community has had put in place the assurances needed to get both Thaci and Vucic on board!!!

We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!
(Jack, 11 September 2018 12:58)

Why are Albanians so ignorant? Is this a problem with their educational system or a genetic issue?
According to the Albanian Institute of Statistics in Tirana the country’s total fertility rate of 1.51 children born per woman is one of the lowest in the world”.
“ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE WORLD.”
Since that is the case in Albania, what are the chances that the population in Kosovo is just as bad????? Kosovo has over 500,000 living outside plus more leaving everyday so it would be less than 1 million living there and most would be elderly.
Sorry lad but Tito is dead and no one is giving the Albos in Kosovo a handout any more, especially the west LOL.

serbia will recongnize Kosova as an independent state. There is nothing they can do about their situation they are in. The serbian inhabitants in serbia and bosnia are shrinking and dissappearing every month that passes by. Feels great that they will all dissappear one day in the future. We need to celebrate that day when they are all gone. And no one will miss them.Good riddance!(Jack, 11. septembar 2018 12:58)You do realise that the majority of the Albanians or Kosovars in the balkan region are Serbians or Greeks that converted to Islam during the Ottoman occupation. The Minority being the financially impoverished Ottoman Turks that were in turn incapable of escaping after the swift collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
(Bruno, 11 September 2018 13:27)

@ @ brunoaj & jack-off - LOL, hilarious how "both" of you misspell the word "recognize", LOL
Albanians using different nicks hoping it will look like there's more of them, LOL....forget it Homefries, your days of playing the "victim" card are long gone...;)

@ genti

genti get your facts in order and stop writing nonsense. albanians originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey). albanians are not from this region. Serbs are the indigenous people of this region this is our region. Albanians are bandits who use/steal/claim other peoples' culture/history etc. Look at the region today where ever there are albanians there are problems, albanians cannot coexist with other people and live like normal people. The only thing on albanians minds is stealing other countries' territories and committing ethnic cleansing. What kind of a sick people is that? Leading up to aggression on Serbia there were some normal albanians in Kosmet but they were eliminated by uck terrorist bandits

Let me break it down for you.... (followed by an endless rant of incomprehensible gibberish)
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Tom, the only breakdown that you successfully demonstrated was your mental breakdown.
Now run to your keyboard and pound away endlessly, that is if you can tear yourself away from you infantile video games.
Tom is (chronically) deluded.

If you had carefully listened to Vucic's speech in Mitrovica it would have given you an insight into what will really happen to Kosovo. Vucic said it will take 10 to 15 years to resolve Kosovo which means nothing will happen in Kosovo; no investment and no privatization. That's the death knell for the Albos since it also means status quo.

Does Serbian know the history ??
They where ignorant in religion .Greek and Albanian orthodox teach them how to become orthodox .Albanians are influenced from all religion because geographically were in the center of all .
What 3 fingers or churches are talking ignorant Serbian ???
Albanian in kosova choose Muslim simply to be the opposite of them in all points
Slavic people - you are millions , but all times will kiss Albanin ass . You went to kosova and brought all army to civilian population ..big tough .....remember don't duck with Albanians -- the end will be bad
Look at the neighbours : Croatian ; Bulgarian ; Albanians literally don't need you around ....further more Macedonian and Greeks play politic
Wake up stupid Serbs and behave

Albanian orthodox

NO Recognition for Kosovo Albos!! -- NEVER EVER-- you have a recognized country it's called ALBANIA, they miss ALL of you.

Everyone has their starting position and then the negotiations and compromises begin. Problem is, I don't think "compromise" is a word in the Albanian dictionary.
(Zoran, 11 September 2018 16:45)

What happened to "more than autonomy,less than independence"?

It looks like Serbia and Kosovo will exchange some territories and move on as separate countries.

Does Thaci the idiot, even know the definition of mutual? Doesn’t Thaci and the rest of the mentally handicapped leadership in Pristina realize neither Vucic, nor anyone else in Serbia, needs or will ever require, “recognition” from criminal gang leaders of a fenced-in ghetto.

There is another problem with the so called recognition of Kosovo. Mutual recognition is not possible with the name "Kosovo" which is engraved in the Serbian Constitution and history. You can't steal a countries history which is exactly what the Albanians are trying to do. FYROM is close to stealing Greek history with the Greek Macedonia name from the Godless Alexi Tsipras. The government of Montenegro is trying to sell of it's Serbian roots to the highest bidder.
(Jugoslavija, 11 September 2018 23:46)

Albania is just fine and would do.

The Serbs that keep scratching their heads to find a link between Albanians and Illyrians should go no further than the Albanian language itself. There are Albanian words used today that are exactly the same as they were in Illyrian. Those scientists who wonder what ancient Balkan tribe the Albanians descend from, generally disagree whether it was Dacians, Thracians, or Illyrians, but nobody doubts the fact that Albanians are indigenous to this region. Besides, the modern Albanian language includes borrowed latin words that were used around the times of Emperor Justinian. You can doubt that Albanians and Illyrians were one and the same, but there is no disagreement over the fact that you Serbs arrived in the Balkans many centuries later... and I suppose plundered, murdered, and destroyed everything as you usually do. Ptolemy's Map is also another point of reference. I bet you won't find Serbia there, but Albanians are easy to spot, exactly where they are today.

Odd, I've never seen Thaci with this much confidence!
It looks like Thaci has secured Vucic's cooperation and the international community has had put in place the assurances needed to get both Thaci and Vucic on board!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 11 September 2018 13:53)

Vucic said in his speech in Mitrovica the time line to settle Kosovo issue was between 10 and 15 years LOL. By that time there will be no Kosova.

Everyone has their starting position and then the negotiations and compromises begin. Problem is, I don't think "compromise" is a word in the Albanian dictionary.

(icj1, 11 September 2018 23:39)

You can’t prove a connection between Albos and Illyrians and you have nothing to prove your statement that Albos have “also bestowed historical landmarks upon that land.”

Albos claim they are indigenous to the Balkans, but there is NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING to support such a claim. Not even a cave painting LOL.

Does Thaci the idiot, even know the definition of mutual? Doesn’t Thaci and the rest of the mentally handicapped leadership in Pristina realize neither Vucic, nor anyone else in Serbia, needs or will ever require, “recognition” from criminal gang leaders of a fenced-in ghetto.

Please show me one piece of factual information that says albanians are illyrian. Its so ridiculous. Youre turkish gypsies.

Thaci claims Serbia isn't negotiating because 'it loves Kosovo.'
On the contrary, Serbia does love Kosovo. Her greatest monasteries and spirituality lie there. What historical landmarks have the Albanians bestowed upon that land? Nothing. The only thing they will leave to posterity is petrol stations. No, It's the current occupiers of that land that Serbia has no love for. And understandably so.

Serbia does love Kosovo. Her greatest monasteries and spirituality lie there. What historical landmarks have the Albanians bestowed upon that land? Nothing. The only thing they will leave to posterity is petrol stations.
(PEN, 11 September 2018 21:22)

Well, you answered your own question that Albanians also bestowed historical landmarks upon that land. So you confirmed that both Serbs and Albanians have bestowed upon that land their respective historical landmarks. There is now law that says that a "monastery" is the only man-made structure that can be defined as a historical landmark!

The Serbian people say NO DEAL, NO RECOGNITION, NO LAND SWAP AND NO ALBO CRIMMINALS. KOSOVO IS SERBIA.

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Unfortunately, Tom still doesn’t realize that sj never asserted to be “aware of some books”.
sj asked for a reference from a reputable library with an extensive Balkan studies collection.
The assertion of being “aware of some books” come from Tom’s fictive imagination.
Tom is deluded.

There is another problem with the so called recognition of Kosovo. Mutual recognition is not possible with the name "Kosovo" which is engraved in the Serbian Constitution and history. You can't steal a countries history which is exactly what the Albanians are trying to do. FYROM is close to stealing Greek history with the Greek Macedonia name from the Godless Alexi Tsipras. The government of Montenegro is trying to sell of it's Serbian roots to the highest bidder.

(sj, 13 September 2018 16:32)

Let me break it down for you sj and your baby sitter:

On your initiative, without anyone forcing you nor tricking you into it, you involved the University of Chicago library in the issue of answering the question of Illyrian origin of Albanians.

This suggests/hints that you seem to be aware of some books available there which prove your assertion that Albanians are not of Illyrian origin, a thing you don't hide to  be your preferred belief anyway, otherwise what's the point of your involving the University of Chicago into this if you don't know if that institution genuinely has books to prove your assertion? What if University of Chicago does have books or any other literature showing that Albanians indeed originate from the Illyrians and both you and I, and your baby sitter, are not aware of it!?

It's unclear how can you be aware of the existence of the highly regarded school of Balkan studies within the University of Chicago - as you put it - but you aren't aware of their conclusion, or their teachings about this matter and you still remain a staunch believer that Albanians are not of Illyrian heritage!? What literature have you been able to see to back up your point? One title or author will suffice. Dodging the question is not an academic discipline.

Say hello to your baby sitter, she is rather protective when it comes to you, highly regarded quality in her field of work though.

Thaci forgot to add "I want" to the beginning of his statement.

Still 2aiting to see some facts on how albanians are illyrian....

"You can’t prove a connection between Albos and Illyrians"

ALBANOPOLIS!!!!!!

Ptolemy: https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_4ksBAAAAMAAJ#page/n229/mode/1up

(Tom L'Orizi, 14 September 2018 12:55)

No, I only used him as an example. Your conclusions lead only to believe that you are hitting the bottle too much. Now where is that list of investments in Kosova. Come on.

Vucic and Thaci are wating time.

Ljajić: Problem dijaloga to što Tači nema podršku u Prištini
https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2018&mm=09&dd=12&nav_category=11&nav_id=1442743

I advise you to stick to fictive investments in Serbia as you don't accept the challenge in real world matters.
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Fictive Italian Albo its true dyslexia is a problem with you.
I asserted nothing, nor did I say that I was aware of any books in Chicago University that shed light on Albos.
I said “I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.”
Understandy now????????

Now what about those Kosva investment????

Unfortunately, Tom can’t realize that it was sj who first asked for a reference.
sj made no assertion.
Tom is deluded.
(The baby sitter, 13 September 2018 15:22)

Sadly, when they get cornered they start deluding. It must an Albanian genetic trait; ICJ1 does the same.

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Now, now, me thinks you do drink too much oh fictive Italian Albo. Its your dumbos that make the claim they descend from Illyrians not me. Are you also dyslexic as well?
I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago – hey the US are your friends not ours. I’m giving you a chance.
Making spurious claims does not show your intellect mate. It only makes you look stupid.

If all that investment I have mentioned is imaginary please tell us how much the west has invested in Kosova? This should be good for a laugh.

Now, now, me thinks you do drink too much oh fictive Italian Albo. Its your dumbos that make the claim they descend from Illyrians not me. Are you also dyslexic as well?
I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago – hey the US are your friends not ours. I’m giving you a chance.
Making spurious claims does not show your intellect mate. It only makes you look stupid.

If all that investment I have mentioned is imaginary please tell us how much the west has invested in Kosova? This should be good for a laugh.
(sj, 13 September 2018 14:57)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University, which in your opinion, shed light into the Illyrian/Albanian issue and it falls on you to elaborate your assertion through disclosing more details about these alleged books. Otherwise, what's the point you mentioning some books in Chicago University and avoiding to talk about them?!

I could also say that there are books in Chicago University library proving the opposite of your claim and then, like you, dodge the further questions.

I advise you to stick to fictive investments in Serbia as you don't accept the challenge in real world matters.

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

You assert that you are aware of some books in Chicago University
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Tom still doesn’t realize that sj never asserted to be “aware of some books”.
sj asked for a reference from a highly reputable library with an extensive Balkan studies collection.
sj made no assertion.
The non-existent assertion comes from Tom’s fictive imagination.
Tom is deluded.

"When Benjamin W. Fortson al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT. "

I'm sorry, but who the f are you that I have to "come back and talk to". You are a filthy propagandist for Greater Serbia built on the bloodshed of its neighbors, and one who has no qualms about denying horrendous massacres done in its name. You are the last person I would count as objective on this matter.

You asked for the name of any scholar that thinks that Albanians are indigenous to the Balkans, and I brought you some 30 odd names of historians and linguists that for over the past 100 years have studied the origins of Albanians, and they all conclude that Albanians are indigenous, and they have been here before Serbs. Most of them draw a direct line between Illyrians and Albanians, some are more sceptic and consider Illyro-Thracian or Dacian lineage. But no respectable scholar maintain that Albanians are not indigenous. Maybe you can ask your neighbor about Eric Hamp of the University of Chicago, who is "widely respected as a leading authority on Indo-European linguistics, with particular interests in Celtic languages and Albanian", that after analyzing competing theories, concluded that "Of course, in any event we could prove the Albanians did, and never that they did not, precede the Slavs."

(Dee, 12 September 2018 16:07)

What a load of BS. The Illyrians left no written language, so no one can compare Albanian to Illyrian. You need definitive proof and not spurious claims. I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.

All European languages have borrowed words from Latin as well as Classical Greek, including the Serbian language, and according to your logic they are all indigenous to the region.

Ptolemy's Map is worthless for your argument. Albani or Albanoi was the name of one Illyrian Tribe. However, there were many tribes belonging to the Illyrians, so according to you all Albos are descendants of the one tribe or Albani while there are no descendants of the other 20 or so tribes - amazing.

Your clutching at straws. Proof must be from reputable scholars not half-baked semi educated so called archaeologist/anthropologist from Albania.

... Your clutching at straws. Proof must be from reputable scholars not half-baked semi educated so called archaeologist/anthropologist from Albania.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

Look who's talking!?

The self appointment world authority with assumed power to decide who's reputable and who's not in archeology and anthropology, no less than the investor of gazillions of fictive € & US$ in Serbia, the man himself - the little sj in his biggest form.

By the way, can you tell us the titles of the books and their corredponding authors you have borrowed from the University of Chicago library to back up your assertion about Albanians not being the descendants of the Illyrians?

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 15:30)

Fictive Italian Albo its true dyslexia is a problem with you.
I asserted nothing, nor did I say that I was aware of any books in Chicago University that shed light on Albos.
I said “I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.”
Understandy now????????

Now what about those Kosva investment????

sj: "Albani or Albanoi was the name of one Illyrian Tribe. However, there were many tribes belonging to the Illyrians"
It's not uncommon that as nations develop, the name of one tribe is gradually used to describe a much larger group of people. The same is true with franks, alemani, poles, russian and I suspect Serbs as well.

sj: "Proof must be from reputable scholars..."

Johann Thunmann, Norbert Jokl, Maximilian Lambertz, Gustav Meyer, Milan Šufflay, Karl Reinhold, Franz Nopcsa, Ludwig von Thallóczy, Konstantin Jireček, Alfred Rappaport, Carl Patsch, Edwin Jacques, Noel Malcolm, Agniya Desnitskaya, Vladimir Orel, Holger Pedersen, Franz Bopp, Waclaw Cimochowski, Vinkentij Makušev, Johann von Hahn, Robert Elsie, Eric Hamp, Aleksandar Stipčević , Nicholas Hammond, James Mallory, Douglas Adams, Nicola Iorga, Margaret Hasluck, Theodor Ippen, Marco La Piana, Georg Stadtmüller, Alain Ducellier - I'll be running out of characters should I continue?

How about this: Noel Malcolm: http://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/nm/kosovo.html

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago.
However, these same authors have no firm evidence connecting one to the other to support that hypothesis. Since Illyrians left no written language they can’t compare Illyrian and Albanian languages so the claim that Illyrians and Albanians are the same is a nonsense.
Dodging what question mate? you are delirious. When you can’t prove your claims you then use the ICJ1 tactic and try and turn it around and demand I produce literature to support my statement LOL.
Well the fact they don’t teach that Albos are Illyrians at Chicago is proof enough. Why would they keep books on something they don’t teach LOL.
Now where is that list of real Kosova investment??? Come on stop this nonsense and answer the question.

(Albanopolis, 13 September 2018 21:07)

When Benjamin W. Fortson et al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied for centuries France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.
You people have a serious drinking problem.

Final deal all that, and you and Vucic in the Hague.

Unrealistic.

sj: "I’ll accept it if they can show me that is what they teach at University of Chicago"
University of Chicago? Sure, Eric Hamp: "Of course, in any event we could prove the Albanians did, and never that they did not, precede the Slavs."

Benjamin W. Fortson (University of Michigan) - Indo European Language and Culture: An introduction:
"The widespread assertion is that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian, spoken in much the same region during classical times"

sj: "The Illyrians left no written language, so no one can compare Albanian to Illyrian."
Illyrians left no written language, but whatever words, names, toponyms they left, relate to Albanian. Even if there is not enough written language for definite link, for the same reason you cannot disprove. Also Illyrian most likely was a group of related languages and not a unified one.

sj: "All European languages have borrowed words from Latin as well as Classical Greek, including the Serbian language, and according to your logic they are all indigenous to the region"
The amount of archaic Latin borrowed from the Romans in Albanian (1/3 of current vocabulary) shows close relations over the long period of time. Also the Latin archaic form of borrowings are of western romance and not eastern (as in Romanian). The form of the latin words as they entered and later were transformed by the Albanian, also indicated that they could not have been borrowed post-imperial period.

When Benjamin W. Fortson et al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied for centuries France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.
You people have a serious drinking problem.
(sj, 14 September 2018 11:11)

So, you appointed yourself as a one-and-only global authority in charge to appoint Benjamin W. Fortson as the only intelectual authority capable to decide whether (or not) Albanians are the descendants of the Illyrians!???

Can I talk to your baby sitter please? She must be spiking your bottle!!!

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago....

(sj, 14 September 2018 11:09)

And the professor's name is?

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Apologies for typo errors in my previous post:

a̶p̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ should have been appointed, and

c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶d̶p̶o̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ should have been corresponding.

I think most of the bloggers on this forum should do a DNA test before commenting further.

(Albanopolis, 13 September 2018 21:07)

When Benjamin W. Fortson al write "Archaeological and anthropological evidence clearly shows that Albanian is the modern-day descendant of Illyrian… " then come back and talk to me. As it stands it an assertion aka opinion nothing more NOT FACT.
I can assert that Serbian culture predates Mesopotamian civilisations, but its only when I can produce proof then turns to fact otherwise its only my opinion.
Illyrians left no written language so how the f*** can you compare it and Albanian?
What an absurd claim about Latin LOL. The Romans occupied France, Spain, Germany, North Africa etc the people there adopted Latin words too and its used to this day.


You people have a serious drinking problem.

I ask that you approach the University of Chicago, US, which has a school dedicated to Balkan studies, and point which text they use to teach their students about Albos are indigenous to the region.
(sj, 13 September 2018 11:01)

can you tell us the titles of the books and their corredponding authors you have borrowed from the University of Chicago library to back up your assertion about Albanians not being the descendants of the Illyrians?
(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 14:11)

Unfortunately, Tom can’t realize that it was sj who first asked for a reference.
sj made no assertion.
Tom is deluded.

(Tom L'Orizi, 13 September 2018 18:16)

Well you see that non-existent neighbour and retired professor of history taught at Chicago so that is how I know.
He is also aware of those claims that Albanians are Illyrians and he is also aware of those many authors that Albanopolis quotes, but the problem is that it is only their opinion drawn from the conclusions that if Albanians live there today they must have been there thousands of years ago.
However, these same authors have no firm evidence connecting one to the other to support that hypothesis. Since Illyrians left no written language they can’t compare Illyrian and Albanian languages so the claim that Illyrians and Albanians are the same is a nonsense.
Dodging what question mate? you are delirious. When you can’t prove your claims you then use the ICJ1 tactic and try and turn it around and demand I produce literature to support my statement LOL.
Well the fact they don’t teach that Albos are Illyrians at Chicago is proof enough. Why would they keep books on something they don’t teach LOL.
Now where is that list of real Kosova investment??? Come on stop this nonsense and answer the question.