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Croatian Wikipedia - Jasenovac is a "collection camp"

Croatian Wikipedia has reached a new low in Ustasa apologism with the latest changes in its entry on Jasenovac concentration camp.

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Ian

pre 5 godina

Lenard
How is it that the so caoled lunatic fringe in croatia is controlling policy? Was it the lunatic fringe that joined the axis powers? Was it the lunatic fringe that executed operation storm? Is it the lunatic fringe that celebrates the joining of the axis powers? Stop the b.s. you are nazi loving fascists at every level.

iko

pre 5 godina

There needs to be a truth and reconciliation commission for the horrors inflicted upon the Balkan neighbours one upon the other throughout the shameful history of conflicts that gnaw at the cultural values of each. Even if agreement is not reached the statements need to be publicly heard by all parties to hear the stories of the survivors and witnesses be they academic or personal. Most silently know where the truth lies and how lies hide the truth. Too much revisionism and obfuscation have retarded the formation of peaceful, progressive and credible societies. There needs to be an irrevocable statement from each statehood denouncing such historical actions of violence of neighbour against neighbour. There is far more that unites these neighbours than separates them. Enough must be declared to be enough before the cycle of recrimination, retribution and retaliation fuels the fires that consumed so many families, friends, neighbours and besmirch the future while blackening the past.

sj

pre 5 godina

Mr. ORIC, 1 September 2018 15:13)

More than happy to admit genocide was committed in Srebrenica when that is proven, and not by washed-up group of judicial misfits who are so inept they cannot sit on a bench in their respect countries, but since genocide never occurred, well you can work that one out for yourself.
Every time its suggested that an independent international commission be formed to ascertain what really went on in Srebrenica, all these western countries start screaming no it should not be done. Naturally the latest is the UK because when its proven that genocide did not occur in Srebrenica they will look like prize fools since the US pushed them into trying to pass that UN SC resolution on Srebrenica.
You got to love the US, they would throw anyone under a bus just to stay “clean”. I’m glad Serbs are their enemies just look at how they treat their friends LOL.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

@Dragoljub Djurkovic
What has this to do with the article?
Did Tito say, go and slaughter each other when I am dead?
Was there a war during the time of Tito inside yugoslavia?
I know enough people from all republics that admire him for the peace and his politics. It is not a serbian thing alone. We never have any problems when we travel to other countries of former yugoslavia.

Michael Thompson

pre 5 godina

Croatia and its people have a deep problem with accepting their sordid Nazi past in World War II. They are being allowed to get away with genocide and have rehabilitated their Nazi Ustasha past. When i traveled their, you can find it everywhere - Pavelic Nazi key chains in stores, streets named after war criminals, Ustasha symbols on t-shirts. The Jews now refuse to attend the annual Jasenovac commemoration because some Nazi group put up a statue nearby the camp grounds. Time for the EU to punish this country - they need become like Germany and remember their Serb and Jewish victims and ask for forgiveness for the crimes they committed in Croatia's name. Only then will Croatia really be able to grow and blossom.

LOL

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Lenny baby, no one in Serbia's government denies the Holocaust and goes to the lengths mainstream politicians in Croatia do to relativize fascism. Your lunatic fringe is alive and well in HDZ.

Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Again, pull your head out of your ass. It's Croatia's Wikipedia page alongside with a full article published in Vecernji list by some schlock revisionist who goes out of his was to openly deny factual history.

Oh and speaking of wicked religiosity, weren't Croatian priests actively involved in the NDH's campaign of genocide? Yeah, your "religion" has far far more war criminals than anything Serbia can come up with.

It would have been better had you just ignored this, but true to form like your Albanian idiot-brigade, you end up making your side look even dumber with your pathetic attempt at whitewashing the past.

It's amazing how dense you can be, bucko :)

LOL

pre 5 godina

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp".
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Nope. It's translated into a "labor camp". Nice try attempting to be a bigger expert on linguistics that those who speaking - especially coming from someone who has lived in the US for years and still can't get the grammar right.

This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Who know what was written at Auschwitz? "Word makes you Free". Does that make it a labor camp?

But then again, what's the point trying to speak logic to you when you're openly denying historical fact about genocide because it targets a people who hate.

Hee haw, hoxha

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 September 2018 06:45) Croatia is beautiful place https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 as many described heaven on earth. Our food products finest fresh organic ingredients. Not the chemical shit https://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2018&mm=05&dd=01&nav_id=104055 that west tries to pass as food to eastern Europe.

Mr. ORIC

pre 5 godina

When will Serbia admit that Srebrenica was genocide. Every country other than Russia agree that what the Serbs did In Srebrenica constitutes genocide.

Betsy... get a life, like anybody would want to visit Serbia.

Rock

pre 5 godina

"Croatian Wikipedia - Jasenovac is a "collection camp""

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp". This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.

Bob

pre 5 godina

Dr Pauline is an excuser too.

What these revisionists prove is that there is shame that they cannot cope with.

They are incapable of a mature view of what happened and want to hide their shame behind the sofa.

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

No wonder. Battle of Little Big Horn where Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull defeated troopers of the 7th cavalry lead by General Custer, is still referred to as "Custer's massacre" in many US history books.
As opposed to that, event when cavalry troopers slaughtered defenseless native women at children, is called "The Battle of Wounded Knee".
Which one do you think was a battle, and which one massacre?

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments. Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

Turn a blind eye all you Tito loving Serbs, just keep on decorating Josip Broz's grave in Beograd with flowers and your Serbian loving tears ! Srbija started dying in 1941 now too gone beyond the point of no return, Happy Extinction !!!

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Croatian nazi apologists: Croatian cowards who cannot stand up to their own atrocious history. Just like their Austrian and German counterparts. Shame on you all.

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

pre 5 godina

Mr Vucic stated earlier this year, when referring to Jasenovac, “We may not agree about what happened 20 years ago but surely we can agree about what happened 70 years ago.” Yet the UK and USA have never acknowledged the mass murders of some 700 000 German civilians in the last few months of World War 2 due to the deliberate bombing of civilian areas in German cities. While the German bombing of London in the early stages of the war may have had a political, industrial and military strategic reason, there was no strategic reason for the killing of so many German civilians in the final stages of the war. It was simply malicious revenge. Today it is ignored in their history books and school texts. The June 2015 UK submission to the UN concerning the Srebrenica massacre was made with their eyes closed to their own history. Croatia is in the same mind set. And 20 years ago I heard from refugees arriving in Australia about massacres of Serbians which were blocked from publication by the western press. Good luck Mr Vucic!

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

pre 5 godina

Mr Vucic stated earlier this year, when referring to Jasenovac, “We may not agree about what happened 20 years ago but surely we can agree about what happened 70 years ago.” Yet the UK and USA have never acknowledged the mass murders of some 700 000 German civilians in the last few months of World War 2 due to the deliberate bombing of civilian areas in German cities. While the German bombing of London in the early stages of the war may have had a political, industrial and military strategic reason, there was no strategic reason for the killing of so many German civilians in the final stages of the war. It was simply malicious revenge. Today it is ignored in their history books and school texts. The June 2015 UK submission to the UN concerning the Srebrenica massacre was made with their eyes closed to their own history. Croatia is in the same mind set. And 20 years ago I heard from refugees arriving in Australia about massacres of Serbians which were blocked from publication by the western press. Good luck Mr Vucic!

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.

Michael Thompson

pre 5 godina

Croatia and its people have a deep problem with accepting their sordid Nazi past in World War II. They are being allowed to get away with genocide and have rehabilitated their Nazi Ustasha past. When i traveled their, you can find it everywhere - Pavelic Nazi key chains in stores, streets named after war criminals, Ustasha symbols on t-shirts. The Jews now refuse to attend the annual Jasenovac commemoration because some Nazi group put up a statue nearby the camp grounds. Time for the EU to punish this country - they need become like Germany and remember their Serb and Jewish victims and ask for forgiveness for the crimes they committed in Croatia's name. Only then will Croatia really be able to grow and blossom.

LOL

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Lenny baby, no one in Serbia's government denies the Holocaust and goes to the lengths mainstream politicians in Croatia do to relativize fascism. Your lunatic fringe is alive and well in HDZ.

Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Again, pull your head out of your ass. It's Croatia's Wikipedia page alongside with a full article published in Vecernji list by some schlock revisionist who goes out of his was to openly deny factual history.

Oh and speaking of wicked religiosity, weren't Croatian priests actively involved in the NDH's campaign of genocide? Yeah, your "religion" has far far more war criminals than anything Serbia can come up with.

It would have been better had you just ignored this, but true to form like your Albanian idiot-brigade, you end up making your side look even dumber with your pathetic attempt at whitewashing the past.

It's amazing how dense you can be, bucko :)

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments. Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Croatian nazi apologists: Croatian cowards who cannot stand up to their own atrocious history. Just like their Austrian and German counterparts. Shame on you all.

Bob

pre 5 godina

Dr Pauline is an excuser too.

What these revisionists prove is that there is shame that they cannot cope with.

They are incapable of a mature view of what happened and want to hide their shame behind the sofa.

Mr. ORIC

pre 5 godina

When will Serbia admit that Srebrenica was genocide. Every country other than Russia agree that what the Serbs did In Srebrenica constitutes genocide.

Betsy... get a life, like anybody would want to visit Serbia.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 September 2018 06:45) Croatia is beautiful place https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 as many described heaven on earth. Our food products finest fresh organic ingredients. Not the chemical shit https://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2018&mm=05&dd=01&nav_id=104055 that west tries to pass as food to eastern Europe.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

Turn a blind eye all you Tito loving Serbs, just keep on decorating Josip Broz's grave in Beograd with flowers and your Serbian loving tears ! Srbija started dying in 1941 now too gone beyond the point of no return, Happy Extinction !!!

LOL

pre 5 godina

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp".
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Nope. It's translated into a "labor camp". Nice try attempting to be a bigger expert on linguistics that those who speaking - especially coming from someone who has lived in the US for years and still can't get the grammar right.

This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Who know what was written at Auschwitz? "Word makes you Free". Does that make it a labor camp?

But then again, what's the point trying to speak logic to you when you're openly denying historical fact about genocide because it targets a people who hate.

Hee haw, hoxha

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

No wonder. Battle of Little Big Horn where Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull defeated troopers of the 7th cavalry lead by General Custer, is still referred to as "Custer's massacre" in many US history books.
As opposed to that, event when cavalry troopers slaughtered defenseless native women at children, is called "The Battle of Wounded Knee".
Which one do you think was a battle, and which one massacre?

Ian

pre 5 godina

Lenard
How is it that the so caoled lunatic fringe in croatia is controlling policy? Was it the lunatic fringe that joined the axis powers? Was it the lunatic fringe that executed operation storm? Is it the lunatic fringe that celebrates the joining of the axis powers? Stop the b.s. you are nazi loving fascists at every level.

sj

pre 5 godina

Mr. ORIC, 1 September 2018 15:13)

More than happy to admit genocide was committed in Srebrenica when that is proven, and not by washed-up group of judicial misfits who are so inept they cannot sit on a bench in their respect countries, but since genocide never occurred, well you can work that one out for yourself.
Every time its suggested that an independent international commission be formed to ascertain what really went on in Srebrenica, all these western countries start screaming no it should not be done. Naturally the latest is the UK because when its proven that genocide did not occur in Srebrenica they will look like prize fools since the US pushed them into trying to pass that UN SC resolution on Srebrenica.
You got to love the US, they would throw anyone under a bus just to stay “clean”. I’m glad Serbs are their enemies just look at how they treat their friends LOL.

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

@Dragoljub Djurkovic
What has this to do with the article?
Did Tito say, go and slaughter each other when I am dead?
Was there a war during the time of Tito inside yugoslavia?
I know enough people from all republics that admire him for the peace and his politics. It is not a serbian thing alone. We never have any problems when we travel to other countries of former yugoslavia.

iko

pre 5 godina

There needs to be a truth and reconciliation commission for the horrors inflicted upon the Balkan neighbours one upon the other throughout the shameful history of conflicts that gnaw at the cultural values of each. Even if agreement is not reached the statements need to be publicly heard by all parties to hear the stories of the survivors and witnesses be they academic or personal. Most silently know where the truth lies and how lies hide the truth. Too much revisionism and obfuscation have retarded the formation of peaceful, progressive and credible societies. There needs to be an irrevocable statement from each statehood denouncing such historical actions of violence of neighbour against neighbour. There is far more that unites these neighbours than separates them. Enough must be declared to be enough before the cycle of recrimination, retribution and retaliation fuels the fires that consumed so many families, friends, neighbours and besmirch the future while blackening the past.

Rock

pre 5 godina

"Croatian Wikipedia - Jasenovac is a "collection camp""

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp". This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments. Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.
(Betsy Lalich, 1 September 2018 06:45) Croatia is beautiful place https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=PN63bg_OSL0 as many described heaven on earth. Our food products finest fresh organic ingredients. Not the chemical shit https://www.b92.net/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2018&mm=05&dd=01&nav_id=104055 that west tries to pass as food to eastern Europe.

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

pre 5 godina

Mr Vucic stated earlier this year, when referring to Jasenovac, “We may not agree about what happened 20 years ago but surely we can agree about what happened 70 years ago.” Yet the UK and USA have never acknowledged the mass murders of some 700 000 German civilians in the last few months of World War 2 due to the deliberate bombing of civilian areas in German cities. While the German bombing of London in the early stages of the war may have had a political, industrial and military strategic reason, there was no strategic reason for the killing of so many German civilians in the final stages of the war. It was simply malicious revenge. Today it is ignored in their history books and school texts. The June 2015 UK submission to the UN concerning the Srebrenica massacre was made with their eyes closed to their own history. Croatia is in the same mind set. And 20 years ago I heard from refugees arriving in Australia about massacres of Serbians which were blocked from publication by the western press. Good luck Mr Vucic!

Betsy Lalich

pre 5 godina

Why anyone would visit Croatia or buy its products amazes me.
Why Croatia is in the E.U. amazes me.
There is a true sickness in that country, while few of its citizens
even object.
They are rotting from within.

Mr. ORIC

pre 5 godina

When will Serbia admit that Srebrenica was genocide. Every country other than Russia agree that what the Serbs did In Srebrenica constitutes genocide.

Betsy... get a life, like anybody would want to visit Serbia.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 5 godina

Croatian nazi apologists: Croatian cowards who cannot stand up to their own atrocious history. Just like their Austrian and German counterparts. Shame on you all.

Rock

pre 5 godina

"Croatian Wikipedia - Jasenovac is a "collection camp""

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp". This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).

LOL

pre 5 godina

Ya we have lunatic fringe in Croatia but in Serbia it is main stream in top "government" departments.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Lenny baby, no one in Serbia's government denies the Holocaust and goes to the lengths mainstream politicians in Croatia do to relativize fascism. Your lunatic fringe is alive and well in HDZ.

Any ways it is a Croatian news site that is reporting about them. In Serbia it is main stream state media that perpetuates propaganda to the brain washed Serbs for centuries and its wicked religiosity.
(Lenard, 31 August 2018 20:21)

Again, pull your head out of your ass. It's Croatia's Wikipedia page alongside with a full article published in Vecernji list by some schlock revisionist who goes out of his was to openly deny factual history.

Oh and speaking of wicked religiosity, weren't Croatian priests actively involved in the NDH's campaign of genocide? Yeah, your "religion" has far far more war criminals than anything Serbia can come up with.

It would have been better had you just ignored this, but true to form like your Albanian idiot-brigade, you end up making your side look even dumber with your pathetic attempt at whitewashing the past.

It's amazing how dense you can be, bucko :)

sj

pre 5 godina

Mr. ORIC, 1 September 2018 15:13)

More than happy to admit genocide was committed in Srebrenica when that is proven, and not by washed-up group of judicial misfits who are so inept they cannot sit on a bench in their respect countries, but since genocide never occurred, well you can work that one out for yourself.
Every time its suggested that an independent international commission be formed to ascertain what really went on in Srebrenica, all these western countries start screaming no it should not be done. Naturally the latest is the UK because when its proven that genocide did not occur in Srebrenica they will look like prize fools since the US pushed them into trying to pass that UN SC resolution on Srebrenica.
You got to love the US, they would throw anyone under a bus just to stay “clean”. I’m glad Serbs are their enemies just look at how they treat their friends LOL.

Michael Thompson

pre 5 godina

Croatia and its people have a deep problem with accepting their sordid Nazi past in World War II. They are being allowed to get away with genocide and have rehabilitated their Nazi Ustasha past. When i traveled their, you can find it everywhere - Pavelic Nazi key chains in stores, streets named after war criminals, Ustasha symbols on t-shirts. The Jews now refuse to attend the annual Jasenovac commemoration because some Nazi group put up a statue nearby the camp grounds. Time for the EU to punish this country - they need become like Germany and remember their Serb and Jewish victims and ask for forgiveness for the crimes they committed in Croatia's name. Only then will Croatia really be able to grow and blossom.

Ian

pre 5 godina

Lenard
How is it that the so caoled lunatic fringe in croatia is controlling policy? Was it the lunatic fringe that joined the axis powers? Was it the lunatic fringe that executed operation storm? Is it the lunatic fringe that celebrates the joining of the axis powers? Stop the b.s. you are nazi loving fascists at every level.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 5 godina

Turn a blind eye all you Tito loving Serbs, just keep on decorating Josip Broz's grave in Beograd with flowers and your Serbian loving tears ! Srbija started dying in 1941 now too gone beyond the point of no return, Happy Extinction !!!

Sreten

pre 5 godina

Dr Paulina Jurkijevic

No wonder. Battle of Little Big Horn where Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull defeated troopers of the 7th cavalry lead by General Custer, is still referred to as "Custer's massacre" in many US history books.
As opposed to that, event when cavalry troopers slaughtered defenseless native women at children, is called "The Battle of Wounded Knee".
Which one do you think was a battle, and which one massacre?

LOL

pre 5 godina

The title is "sabirni logor" and it is translated as "concentration camp".
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Nope. It's translated into a "labor camp". Nice try attempting to be a bigger expert on linguistics that those who speaking - especially coming from someone who has lived in the US for years and still can't get the grammar right.

This is the title that was written on the camp Jasenovac (visible on the photograph in the article). The rest of the article is also largely misinformation (nothing new for index.hr, which is an extreme left portal).
(Rock, 1 September 2018 10:28)

Who know what was written at Auschwitz? "Word makes you Free". Does that make it a labor camp?

But then again, what's the point trying to speak logic to you when you're openly denying historical fact about genocide because it targets a people who hate.

Hee haw, hoxha

Tito reloaded

pre 5 godina

@Dragoljub Djurkovic
What has this to do with the article?
Did Tito say, go and slaughter each other when I am dead?
Was there a war during the time of Tito inside yugoslavia?
I know enough people from all republics that admire him for the peace and his politics. It is not a serbian thing alone. We never have any problems when we travel to other countries of former yugoslavia.

Bob

pre 5 godina

Dr Pauline is an excuser too.

What these revisionists prove is that there is shame that they cannot cope with.

They are incapable of a mature view of what happened and want to hide their shame behind the sofa.

iko

pre 5 godina

There needs to be a truth and reconciliation commission for the horrors inflicted upon the Balkan neighbours one upon the other throughout the shameful history of conflicts that gnaw at the cultural values of each. Even if agreement is not reached the statements need to be publicly heard by all parties to hear the stories of the survivors and witnesses be they academic or personal. Most silently know where the truth lies and how lies hide the truth. Too much revisionism and obfuscation have retarded the formation of peaceful, progressive and credible societies. There needs to be an irrevocable statement from each statehood denouncing such historical actions of violence of neighbour against neighbour. There is far more that unites these neighbours than separates them. Enough must be declared to be enough before the cycle of recrimination, retribution and retaliation fuels the fires that consumed so many families, friends, neighbours and besmirch the future while blackening the past.