FM: At least 10 countries reexamining their recognition

Stop lying to people, there is no legal basis to withdraw any recognition's. I feel embarrassed for you, listening to the same old nonsense.

LOL Kosovo isn’t coming back and will probably reunify with Albania before the end of the decade. Serbs are delusional they really want 2 million + Albanians in their country who will outnumber them demographically in a few short decades. Let’s face it Kosovo’s independence was thanks to Milosevic and Serbian nationalism. The Albanians would have stayed had you not tried to ethnically cleanse them from their own homes.

This illegal breakaway experiment was encouraged and created by the U.S, U.K and E.U.
Now this is turning into a complete failure for the west. Instead of conceding an embarrassing failure the west continues to sell and promote propaganda regarding Kosovo*
So even if only 90 countries recognized the illegal breakaway and 110 didn't recognize, the West will still promote the 90 and not accept or mention that 110 do not recognize. This is fake news at its best. West cant show they failed because they will look weak.
Too late because the west and E.U are showing cracks in their armour.
God bless Russia!!!!!

(Armand, 22 June 2018 11:12)

Ok, for the sake of argument. There is no legal basis for unilateral declaration of independence because this only applies to colonies, and Kosovo was never an Albanian colony.
Kosovo was a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, that is, Serbia.
Integral parts of sovereign states, under international law, do not have a right to unilateral secession.
Kosovo had a specific status in SFR Yugoslavia, but it does not justify the secession, since at the time of the secession of Kosovo, SFR Yugoslavia did not exist for 16 years.
The disintegration of SFRY ended in 1992, and Kosovo has since been an integral part of Serbia, and not an entity with the right to self-determination that would justify secession.
Therefore there is no legal justification for Kosovo to join Albania as well.

Keep them coming!

Not so smart Serb,
You are confusing delusion with reality, at present there are well over 110 recognitions and less than 90 that are not. Dacic is desperate since he knows there is evidence in Kosova that implicate him in War Crimes during the 1990’s. Albanians will hunt him down like a dog at the appropriate moment, it’s only a matter of time. That is why he is frantically, but hopelessly seeking non-recognitions.

Keep them coming!
(Zoran, 22 June 2018 10:48)

If this is tru , prove it .
If this is possible then why don’t you make Montenegro ( your brother) and Macedonia ( your sister ) do the same. After all they are neighbors and it means a lot . Go ahead tell dacic to try , then I’ll believe your lies. Lol

Liberia just refuted the serbian reports and reaffirmed its bilateral ties with Kosovo. + "the two countries continue to enjoy mutual confidence and friendship"

Your serbian foreign minister is lying for domestic reasons.

So for sake of argument lets go with say.. Kosova loses bunch of recognitions and the chances fall to impossible of them joining the U.N/Interpol or anything.. The U.S will not leave Kosova to go back inside of Serbia. The U.S has invested too much $$$$ in Kosova.. As well as EU does not want another civil war on its hands because we all know thats the outcome. The only realistic solution to this "Frozen Conflict" is Kosova joining Albania thats Only way Kosova can be represented in the international scene and function. Iv always been against the idea of Kosova being a state because i don't think it can function. Its landlocked.. Its resources are limited population is small. I think Serbs have two realstic options and thats either accept Kosovo as a state.. Witch i do not think it will happen.. Or force the hand of U.S/E.U and let it join Albania.

Let’s face it Kosovo’s independence was thanks to Milosevic and Serbian nationalism. The Albanians would have stayed had you not tried to ethnically cleanse them from their own homes.
(Guest,
@ guestaj- so this gives u the moral high ground to do the same to Srbs, desecrate graveyards, burn churches, beat up kids, murder old folk,,niiiice!
Europes youngest democracy... worlds biggest joke!

Kosovo isn’t coming back and will probably reunify with Albania before the end of the decade.
(Guest, 22 June 2018 11:26)

No it won't. None of Kosovo's allies are in favor for Greater Albania. Nice try.

Dacic you are fighting an already lost battle. Nobody is worried..

As for international organisations we have an country called Albania that Can handle our matters. We only need to keep Serbia away from Kosova, and we are doing an good job with that since there is no serbian army, police or people in Kosova. Plus we need an strong army to secure that it stands that way. That is an done deal since Nato support us!

But when Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia gets EU membership before Serbia then you will rethink your position toward Kosova.

So now you understand that you are fighting an lost battle.

It's hilarious to me that when loss of recognition for KiM is mentioned in an article, you Albos are all over it and come out in droves to make your silly comments. I guarantee that this article will have over 40 comments - easy. Boy, oh boy, losing recognition really gets your Albo underwear in a knot. Love it....

Sorry for my ignorance, but is not that these countries should send the revocation to the country and to the F.minister whith which they signed the recognition?

Whait, if Albdania decide to revocate the recognition of Serbia, will send the letter to Croatian F.minister, right dear Serbs?

Zero revocations were send to Kosovo! So this man should learn belly dancing to convince someone. 😂��😂😂😂

A technical question: Do these countries revoking the recognition have to give back the suitcases with money to Pacolli?

Opposition media is having a ball with Dacic’s “nice try” of forging Liberia’s recognition “annulment” hahahaha!

The Crumbs of Kosovo*
American Shiptar
Armanda

You believe the U.S is your saviour or liberator???
They have invested $$$ in Kosovo*?
Well sorry shiptars to burst your bubbles, the U.S has only raped the wealth from Trepica, only dropped D.U so you wake up every morning to breathe that poison in your lungs.
Left your economy to be worse than Somalia and kept Serbia defending its territorial integrity.
Our brothers in Makedonkia and Montenegro are infested with cancer just as Kosovo* is so will ultimately be on your side due to infestation. They are not our brothers anymore.
You are fighting against Serbs. We don't give up easily.
Please love Serbs don't go against us. For your own welfare.

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia? Someone should tell him Sloba (his karate teacher) is gone, and the past with him. Those who bombed you have become your "friends".

The U.S has invested too much $$$$ in Kosova.. As well as EU does not want another civil war on its hands because we all know thats the outcome.
(Armand, 22 June 2018 11:12)

Are you so naive? The US only invests in itself. Do you think the US cares about some backwater fenced-in ghetto of the Balkans?
One thing you should realize is that the US now primarily invests in war. War and instability is essential to US survival. Everyone knows the US will never resolve its 25 trillion dollar debt. The only salvation for the US (and it’s currency) is to ensure instability of others.
What the EU wants is irrelevant, and that irrelevancy was confirmed so eloquently by the US state department when Tori Nuland said “F—- the EU”.
If you depend on the US, then you should align with them and prepare for war.

Negotiating in good faith aaa. While we settle our differences I will go around the world and try to blackmail Prishtina as much as I can. FM of Serbia truly sets a tone of how one should never conduct diplomacy.

Mr. Dacic you are total disgrace to both peoples of Serbia and Albania. Your job is to try to secure a better future for our children not plant seeds of hate....Disgraciado....

Stop lying to people, there is no legal basis to withdraw any recognition's.
(Jon Prokupla, 22 June 2018 10:16)

There's no legal basis to retain recognitions either. States can do whatever they want and Kosovo, like Abkhazia, is not a state. I don't know where you're getting this idea that's there's no legal basis.

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia?
(Avni, 22 June 2018 13:46)

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. NATO soldiers in Kosovo are instrumental in protecting Serbs against Albanian terrorism. NATO has also stated its opposition to Kosovo's attempts at building an army. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.

As for international organisations we have an country called Albania that Can handle our matters.
(Demi, 22 June 2018 10:36)

"Dutch vote to veto opening EU accession talks with Albania"

You Albanians on here can't be real. This has to be a collaborative joke by people deliberately posing as a gaggle of idiots. I mean one or two gaffes I can believe, but when the barrage of parallel realities becomes the norm, I have to wonder whether this is all some elaborate joke just to maintain internet traffic around here. I seriously wonder if Albanians in Albania think of your "Kosovars" in the same light as the rest of the First World :)

To Little Sloba aka Belly Dancer Dacic who was wondering yesterday against whom Serbia was playing today: Did you get it today or Xhaka and Shaqiri have to draw you a picture? Same people keeping you out of EU may throw you out of World Cup. Get it?

To all other decent Serbian football fans: Great game, the ball is round and it could have gone either way, Switzerland was luckier. Good luck against Brazil!

Keep them coming!
(Zoran, 22 June 2018 10:48)

If this is tru , prove it .
If this is possible then why don’t you make Montenegro ( your brother) and Macedonia ( your sister ) do the same. After all they are neighbors and it means a lot . Go ahead tell dacic to try , then I’ll believe your lies. Lol
(Albanian American,

@ Alb amerkanaj - polako covece, polako! Imamo vremena;) sve u svoje vreme, decko moj!

States can do whatever they want and Kosovo, like Abkhazia, is not a state.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:48)

Exactly, states can do whatever they want when it comes to the recognition of another state. So, yes, Kosovo is not a state according to Serbia, Serbia is not a state according to Kosovo and Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states that have recognised Kosovo as a state.

Now the Serbia's leader either are the smartest in the planet or the stupiest if they are trying to undo Kosovo independece. The latest Milloshevic proved to be the....you guess now. Once Serbia will "realise" the Kosovo independence then the blame again will be on others.

@EA .. trying to undo Kosovo independece. The latest Milloshevic proved to be the....you guess now. Once Serbia will "realise" the Kosovo independence then the blame again will be on others.

IT IS UNLAWFUL KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE AND TAKING OVER THE TERRITORY OF SOVEREIGN COUNTRY SERBIA WITH FORCE.

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. NATO soldiers in Kosovo are instrumental in protecting Serbs against Albanian terrorism. NATO has also stated its opposition to Kosovo's attempts at building an army. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:52)

Navi, Soros sends each of them a loaf of bread once a week and they're more than happy to troll the Serbian sites to spew their false news and hatred on his organizations behalf. I just laugh at them, they're pretty comical - especially the ones that are here daily. They have plenty of time since they're all on welfare and don't like to work.

Does Dacic think he is fooling anyone with his duplicitous behavior. Even the most nationalist of Serbs can see through him. It has been proven that Dacic committed forgery by attempting to show Liberia revoked their recognition of Kosovo. This is a crime and will only embarrass Serbia. The least that should happen is to remove Dacic from office.

If 10 countries withdraw, 10 others will recognize. And by the way, Guinea-Bissau reconfirmed its recognition, while Sao Tome never really recognized because they didn’t follow the procedure correctly, I think their President never signed the note. Kosovo will be part of Interpol this year, it may even join the UN.

Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states
(icj1, 23 June 2018 03:11)

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Perhaps icj1 should enroll in elementary mathematics to learn that the cross symbol, represented by “+” is not a recognized integer. Writing 110-, or 110+, or 110#, or 110*, or 110@ does not provide readers with a recognized whole number.
Before rambling about some delusional number of recognitions, perhaps icj1 and his ilk should learn how most people count and the symbols that are used to represent integers and actual whole numbers?

A technical question: Do these countries revoking the recognition have to give back the suitcases with money to Pacolli?
(Questioner, 22 June 2018 12:28)
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Only if they had a written agreement perhaps, LOL.
Let's see if he'll go to every country and collect.

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Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary, unlike Suriname or Burundi, have more consolidated diplomacies, and it would looks very amateurish to revoke recognition of an entity that you recognized when it was time to recognize them. Derecognition normally shouldn’t happen unless you need to declare war on an entity, and all other reasons for derecognizing are flawed. That includes changing from a Western ruling party to a Russian loving one. If countries change recognition status after every election cycle they would be seen as a joke, and those 3 countries know this. So even if they wanted to derecognize, they are stuck with their position. Unlike Suriname or Burundi who are known as failures. Even Liberia quickly cleared their position because they did not want to seem as a joke country that recognizes or derecognizes on a whim.

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia? Someone should tell him Sloba (his karate teacher) is gone, and the past with him. Those who bombed you have become your "friends".
(Avni, 22 June 2018 13:46)


Has anyone told you that the CSTO and Russia hold exercises in Serbia as well?

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:52)


Navi,
Have you taken a look at the MUP interior ministry building lately!

@Raisin, Wikipedia has a pretty stable list of recognitions, they furnish proof of recognition notes or official statements from foreign ministry departments. Nothing is added or subtracted without proof or debating it back and forth first. It’s the most neutral and comprehensive list out there. Article title: International recognition of Kosovo

Fake News

Even Spain had to recognize Kosova passport. 40 athletes from Kosova are in Tarragona, Spain for Mediterranean games.
All Kosova athletes had to go to Spanish consulate in Skopje to get entry visas. I wonder why FM Dacic did not say a word about that to his Spanish friends!

Is there a third party out there who has no interest in Kosovo or Serbia that actually has a really tally of the recognitions? Albanians and their supporters cannot be trusted, nor can Serbia, when it comes to this issue. Folks, you should never trust news coming from people who have a strong interest in the matter. We need an unattached third party to be objective. I don't thin there is one. My guess is that the number of recognitions is half way between what Kosovo Albanians claim and what the official Serb government claims.

Wait until Serbia needs a vote for admission to the EU, we will support our friends, the Albanians. Remember, two can play that game.
(Happy Croat, 26 June 2018 20:36)
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You will do as you're told and like it.

OK, this-and-that (non)recognition from Republic of Mumbamamba is pretty much no news, sorry.

I would focus on three countries instead of 10.

1) Czech Republic. Please be specific. All (Albanians included) know, where they stand for real feeling and where formally.

They (the Czech) should act honestly, at last.

2) Poland. Same story. If the recognition of Kosovo was merely to appease U.S. and p*ss of Russia, they should be clear and honest with that.

3) Hungary. There is no more anti-Albanian place on this planet, Albanians better to seek help from Serbs. The feelings are ca. 500 year old. In addition, Orbán had his share of anti-Albanian campaign. That "anti-pekar" campaign made ME(!) vomit.

Periodic anti-Kosovo propaganda is in the official news, too (like employees of Kosovo embassy living from Hungarian welfare).

In addition, Orbán is regarded as Putin's poodle + Dacic's friend.

Great. But than, please, be clear: do you want these employees of Kosovo Embassy to receive the welfare or you better send them home?

If you periodically explode with anti-Albanian poison - but do not revoke Kosovo's recognition = you have no balls.

(Of course, Orbán has no balls). But than... Dacic should be clear: Hungary is a ball-less Putin poodle and a fake friend (of course, it is!)

Wait until Serbia needs a vote for admission to the EU, we will support our friends, the Albanians. Remember, two can play that game.

111 countries did not have a flawed recognition process. Chances are the remaining countries are using flawed judgment to withhold recognitions. Like Spain for example, incorrectly linking Kosovo's sui generis case with Catalonia.
(Recognition, 27 June 2018 11:08)

"flawed" or not - how you decide? It looks like (again) the base of decision is: "there is only one truth in the Universe and beyond: the Albanian truth".
Nope, Albania is a tiny fleck in the Universe, tinier than even Serbia or Hungary. Period. And your truth is... tiny.

Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states
(icj1, 23 June 2018 03:11)

You're right again icj1, Kosovo is a state within the territory of Serbia; but, as you well know, it's not a country dear, Thank you for pointing this out......

Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary, unlike Suriname or Burundi, have more consolidated diplomacies, and it would looks very amateurish to revoke recognition of an entity that you recognized when it was time to recognize them.

(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

Probably true for CZ and PL. Sorry, if anyone - I know about HU better. "Amateurish" is already an understatement.

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Derecognition normally shouldn’t happen unless you need to declare war on an entity, and all other reasons for derecognizing are flawed.
(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

I do not agree. If the recognition process itself was flawed, it should be reversed.
But the reversal should be done after extensive homework.

"I am a poodle of Bush" vs. "I am a poodle of Putin" vs. "I hate Russians" is not "extensive homework".

It is clear, in all above cases that extensive homework wasn't done. Macedonia and CG is an other example. As with the case of Taiwan - even China's close allies do have extensive ties... carefully not p*ssing off either China or Taiwan.

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Even Liberia quickly cleared their position because they did not want to seem as a joke country
(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

I do not know where Liberia stands... and probably it has zero importance. I think, the # of recognitions is most important for BP himself (to make his position stronger).
In that sense, more recognitions are in Serbia's favor as BJ is more pragmatic and has good relationship with RU.

111 countries did not have a flawed recognition process. Chances are the remaining countries are using flawed judgment to withhold recognitions. Like Spain for example, incorrectly linking Kosovo's sui generis case with Catalonia.

When 111 recognize and 83 don't, chances are the 83 are using flawed judgment. Chances actually increase when you realize most of the non-recognizers are either countries with territorial issues or too poor to even have a qualified department of external affairs. Albanians may have a relatively small nation, but what really matters in international politics is the size of their allies. You could take on Albania, but can you take on NATO? Yeah, no...

the cross symbol, represented by “+” is not a recognized integer
(OneTwoThree, 24 June 2018 13:58)

Congratulations for finally learning that and thank you for sharing your math learning progress with the rest of the readers on these forums lol

LOL Kosovo isn’t coming back and will probably reunify with Albania before the end of the decade. Serbs are delusional they really want 2 million + Albanians in their country who will outnumber them demographically in a few short decades. Let’s face it Kosovo’s independence was thanks to Milosevic and Serbian nationalism. The Albanians would have stayed had you not tried to ethnically cleanse them from their own homes.

Dacic you are fighting an already lost battle. Nobody is worried..

As for international organisations we have an country called Albania that Can handle our matters. We only need to keep Serbia away from Kosova, and we are doing an good job with that since there is no serbian army, police or people in Kosova. Plus we need an strong army to secure that it stands that way. That is an done deal since Nato support us!

But when Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia gets EU membership before Serbia then you will rethink your position toward Kosova.

So now you understand that you are fighting an lost battle.

Not so smart Serb,
You are confusing delusion with reality, at present there are well over 110 recognitions and less than 90 that are not. Dacic is desperate since he knows there is evidence in Kosova that implicate him in War Crimes during the 1990’s. Albanians will hunt him down like a dog at the appropriate moment, it’s only a matter of time. That is why he is frantically, but hopelessly seeking non-recognitions.

Stop lying to people, there is no legal basis to withdraw any recognition's. I feel embarrassed for you, listening to the same old nonsense.

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia?
(Avni, 22 June 2018 13:46)

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. NATO soldiers in Kosovo are instrumental in protecting Serbs against Albanian terrorism. NATO has also stated its opposition to Kosovo's attempts at building an army. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.

Kosovo isn’t coming back and will probably reunify with Albania before the end of the decade.
(Guest, 22 June 2018 11:26)

No it won't. None of Kosovo's allies are in favor for Greater Albania. Nice try.

So for sake of argument lets go with say.. Kosova loses bunch of recognitions and the chances fall to impossible of them joining the U.N/Interpol or anything.. The U.S will not leave Kosova to go back inside of Serbia. The U.S has invested too much $$$$ in Kosova.. As well as EU does not want another civil war on its hands because we all know thats the outcome. The only realistic solution to this "Frozen Conflict" is Kosova joining Albania thats Only way Kosova can be represented in the international scene and function. Iv always been against the idea of Kosova being a state because i don't think it can function. Its landlocked.. Its resources are limited population is small. I think Serbs have two realstic options and thats either accept Kosovo as a state.. Witch i do not think it will happen.. Or force the hand of U.S/E.U and let it join Albania.

This illegal breakaway experiment was encouraged and created by the U.S, U.K and E.U.
Now this is turning into a complete failure for the west. Instead of conceding an embarrassing failure the west continues to sell and promote propaganda regarding Kosovo*
So even if only 90 countries recognized the illegal breakaway and 110 didn't recognize, the West will still promote the 90 and not accept or mention that 110 do not recognize. This is fake news at its best. West cant show they failed because they will look weak.
Too late because the west and E.U are showing cracks in their armour.
God bless Russia!!!!!

Keep them coming!

Keep them coming!
(Zoran, 22 June 2018 10:48)

If this is tru , prove it .
If this is possible then why don’t you make Montenegro ( your brother) and Macedonia ( your sister ) do the same. After all they are neighbors and it means a lot . Go ahead tell dacic to try , then I’ll believe your lies. Lol

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia? Someone should tell him Sloba (his karate teacher) is gone, and the past with him. Those who bombed you have become your "friends".

A technical question: Do these countries revoking the recognition have to give back the suitcases with money to Pacolli?

It's hilarious to me that when loss of recognition for KiM is mentioned in an article, you Albos are all over it and come out in droves to make your silly comments. I guarantee that this article will have over 40 comments - easy. Boy, oh boy, losing recognition really gets your Albo underwear in a knot. Love it....

The Crumbs of Kosovo*
American Shiptar
Armanda

You believe the U.S is your saviour or liberator???
They have invested $$$ in Kosovo*?
Well sorry shiptars to burst your bubbles, the U.S has only raped the wealth from Trepica, only dropped D.U so you wake up every morning to breathe that poison in your lungs.
Left your economy to be worse than Somalia and kept Serbia defending its territorial integrity.
Our brothers in Makedonkia and Montenegro are infested with cancer just as Kosovo* is so will ultimately be on your side due to infestation. They are not our brothers anymore.
You are fighting against Serbs. We don't give up easily.
Please love Serbs don't go against us. For your own welfare.

Stop lying to people, there is no legal basis to withdraw any recognition's.
(Jon Prokupla, 22 June 2018 10:16)

There's no legal basis to retain recognitions either. States can do whatever they want and Kosovo, like Abkhazia, is not a state. I don't know where you're getting this idea that's there's no legal basis.

As for international organisations we have an country called Albania that Can handle our matters.
(Demi, 22 June 2018 10:36)

"Dutch vote to veto opening EU accession talks with Albania"

You Albanians on here can't be real. This has to be a collaborative joke by people deliberately posing as a gaggle of idiots. I mean one or two gaffes I can believe, but when the barrage of parallel realities becomes the norm, I have to wonder whether this is all some elaborate joke just to maintain internet traffic around here. I seriously wonder if Albanians in Albania think of your "Kosovars" in the same light as the rest of the First World :)

(Armand, 22 June 2018 11:12)

Ok, for the sake of argument. There is no legal basis for unilateral declaration of independence because this only applies to colonies, and Kosovo was never an Albanian colony.
Kosovo was a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, that is, Serbia.
Integral parts of sovereign states, under international law, do not have a right to unilateral secession.
Kosovo had a specific status in SFR Yugoslavia, but it does not justify the secession, since at the time of the secession of Kosovo, SFR Yugoslavia did not exist for 16 years.
The disintegration of SFRY ended in 1992, and Kosovo has since been an integral part of Serbia, and not an entity with the right to self-determination that would justify secession.
Therefore there is no legal justification for Kosovo to join Albania as well.

The U.S has invested too much $$$$ in Kosova.. As well as EU does not want another civil war on its hands because we all know thats the outcome.
(Armand, 22 June 2018 11:12)

Are you so naive? The US only invests in itself. Do you think the US cares about some backwater fenced-in ghetto of the Balkans?
One thing you should realize is that the US now primarily invests in war. War and instability is essential to US survival. Everyone knows the US will never resolve its 25 trillion dollar debt. The only salvation for the US (and it’s currency) is to ensure instability of others.
What the EU wants is irrelevant, and that irrelevancy was confirmed so eloquently by the US state department when Tori Nuland said “F—- the EU”.
If you depend on the US, then you should align with them and prepare for war.

@EA .. trying to undo Kosovo independece. The latest Milloshevic proved to be the....you guess now. Once Serbia will "realise" the Kosovo independence then the blame again will be on others.

IT IS UNLAWFUL KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE AND TAKING OVER THE TERRITORY OF SOVEREIGN COUNTRY SERBIA WITH FORCE.

If 10 countries withdraw, 10 others will recognize. And by the way, Guinea-Bissau reconfirmed its recognition, while Sao Tome never really recognized because they didn’t follow the procedure correctly, I think their President never signed the note. Kosovo will be part of Interpol this year, it may even join the UN.

Now the Serbia's leader either are the smartest in the planet or the stupiest if they are trying to undo Kosovo independece. The latest Milloshevic proved to be the....you guess now. Once Serbia will "realise" the Kosovo independence then the blame again will be on others.

Keep them coming!
(Zoran, 22 June 2018 10:48)

If this is tru , prove it .
If this is possible then why don’t you make Montenegro ( your brother) and Macedonia ( your sister ) do the same. After all they are neighbors and it means a lot . Go ahead tell dacic to try , then I’ll believe your lies. Lol
(Albanian American,

@ Alb amerkanaj - polako covece, polako! Imamo vremena;) sve u svoje vreme, decko moj!

Let’s face it Kosovo’s independence was thanks to Milosevic and Serbian nationalism. The Albanians would have stayed had you not tried to ethnically cleanse them from their own homes.
(Guest,
@ guestaj- so this gives u the moral high ground to do the same to Srbs, desecrate graveyards, burn churches, beat up kids, murder old folk,,niiiice!
Europes youngest democracy... worlds biggest joke!

Has anyone told little Sloba that NATO is holding military exercises in Serbia? Someone should tell him Sloba (his karate teacher) is gone, and the past with him. Those who bombed you have become your "friends".
(Avni, 22 June 2018 13:46)


Has anyone told you that the CSTO and Russia hold exercises in Serbia as well?

Negotiating in good faith aaa. While we settle our differences I will go around the world and try to blackmail Prishtina as much as I can. FM of Serbia truly sets a tone of how one should never conduct diplomacy.

Mr. Dacic you are total disgrace to both peoples of Serbia and Albania. Your job is to try to secure a better future for our children not plant seeds of hate....Disgraciado....

Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states
(icj1, 23 June 2018 03:11)

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Perhaps icj1 should enroll in elementary mathematics to learn that the cross symbol, represented by “+” is not a recognized integer. Writing 110-, or 110+, or 110#, or 110*, or 110@ does not provide readers with a recognized whole number.
Before rambling about some delusional number of recognitions, perhaps icj1 and his ilk should learn how most people count and the symbols that are used to represent integers and actual whole numbers?

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. NATO soldiers in Kosovo are instrumental in protecting Serbs against Albanian terrorism. NATO has also stated its opposition to Kosovo's attempts at building an army. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:52)

Navi, Soros sends each of them a loaf of bread once a week and they're more than happy to troll the Serbian sites to spew their false news and hatred on his organizations behalf. I just laugh at them, they're pretty comical - especially the ones that are here daily. They have plenty of time since they're all on welfare and don't like to work.

Liberia just refuted the serbian reports and reaffirmed its bilateral ties with Kosovo. + "the two countries continue to enjoy mutual confidence and friendship"

Your serbian foreign minister is lying for domestic reasons.

States can do whatever they want and Kosovo, like Abkhazia, is not a state.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:48)

Exactly, states can do whatever they want when it comes to the recognition of another state. So, yes, Kosovo is not a state according to Serbia, Serbia is not a state according to Kosovo and Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states that have recognised Kosovo as a state.

A technical question: Do these countries revoking the recognition have to give back the suitcases with money to Pacolli?
(Questioner, 22 June 2018 12:28)
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Only if they had a written agreement perhaps, LOL.
Let's see if he'll go to every country and collect.

Sorry for my ignorance, but is not that these countries should send the revocation to the country and to the F.minister whith which they signed the recognition?

Whait, if Albdania decide to revocate the recognition of Serbia, will send the letter to Croatian F.minister, right dear Serbs?

Zero revocations were send to Kosovo! So this man should learn belly dancing to convince someone. 😂��😂😂😂

To Little Sloba aka Belly Dancer Dacic who was wondering yesterday against whom Serbia was playing today: Did you get it today or Xhaka and Shaqiri have to draw you a picture? Same people keeping you out of EU may throw you out of World Cup. Get it?

To all other decent Serbian football fans: Great game, the ball is round and it could have gone either way, Switzerland was luckier. Good luck against Brazil!

Is there a third party out there who has no interest in Kosovo or Serbia that actually has a really tally of the recognitions? Albanians and their supporters cannot be trusted, nor can Serbia, when it comes to this issue. Folks, you should never trust news coming from people who have a strong interest in the matter. We need an unattached third party to be objective. I don't thin there is one. My guess is that the number of recognitions is half way between what Kosovo Albanians claim and what the official Serb government claims.

Opposition media is having a ball with Dacic’s “nice try” of forging Liberia’s recognition “annulment” hahahaha!

OK, this-and-that (non)recognition from Republic of Mumbamamba is pretty much no news, sorry.

I would focus on three countries instead of 10.

1) Czech Republic. Please be specific. All (Albanians included) know, where they stand for real feeling and where formally.

They (the Czech) should act honestly, at last.

2) Poland. Same story. If the recognition of Kosovo was merely to appease U.S. and p*ss of Russia, they should be clear and honest with that.

3) Hungary. There is no more anti-Albanian place on this planet, Albanians better to seek help from Serbs. The feelings are ca. 500 year old. In addition, Orbán had his share of anti-Albanian campaign. That "anti-pekar" campaign made ME(!) vomit.

Periodic anti-Kosovo propaganda is in the official news, too (like employees of Kosovo embassy living from Hungarian welfare).

In addition, Orbán is regarded as Putin's poodle + Dacic's friend.

Great. But than, please, be clear: do you want these employees of Kosovo Embassy to receive the welfare or you better send them home?

If you periodically explode with anti-Albanian poison - but do not revoke Kosovo's recognition = you have no balls.

(Of course, Orbán has no balls). But than... Dacic should be clear: Hungary is a ball-less Putin poodle and a fake friend (of course, it is!)

Fake News

111 countries did not have a flawed recognition process. Chances are the remaining countries are using flawed judgment to withhold recognitions. Like Spain for example, incorrectly linking Kosovo's sui generis case with Catalonia.
(Recognition, 27 June 2018 11:08)

"flawed" or not - how you decide? It looks like (again) the base of decision is: "there is only one truth in the Universe and beyond: the Albanian truth".
Nope, Albania is a tiny fleck in the Universe, tinier than even Serbia or Hungary. Period. And your truth is... tiny.

Does Dacic think he is fooling anyone with his duplicitous behavior. Even the most nationalist of Serbs can see through him. It has been proven that Dacic committed forgery by attempting to show Liberia revoked their recognition of Kosovo. This is a crime and will only embarrass Serbia. The least that should happen is to remove Dacic from office.

Even Spain had to recognize Kosova passport. 40 athletes from Kosova are in Tarragona, Spain for Mediterranean games.
All Kosova athletes had to go to Spanish consulate in Skopje to get entry visas. I wonder why FM Dacic did not say a word about that to his Spanish friends!

Wait until Serbia needs a vote for admission to the EU, we will support our friends, the Albanians. Remember, two can play that game.
(Happy Croat, 26 June 2018 20:36)
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You will do as you're told and like it.

NATO and Serbia get along quite well. I don't know why you think NATO and Serbia are at odds.
(Navi, 22 June 2018 15:52)


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11:55 AM - 23 Jun 2018

Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary, unlike Suriname or Burundi, have more consolidated diplomacies, and it would looks very amateurish to revoke recognition of an entity that you recognized when it was time to recognize them. Derecognition normally shouldn’t happen unless you need to declare war on an entity, and all other reasons for derecognizing are flawed. That includes changing from a Western ruling party to a Russian loving one. If countries change recognition status after every election cycle they would be seen as a joke, and those 3 countries know this. So even if they wanted to derecognize, they are stuck with their position. Unlike Suriname or Burundi who are known as failures. Even Liberia quickly cleared their position because they did not want to seem as a joke country that recognizes or derecognizes on a whim.

Wait until Serbia needs a vote for admission to the EU, we will support our friends, the Albanians. Remember, two can play that game.

Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary, unlike Suriname or Burundi, have more consolidated diplomacies, and it would looks very amateurish to revoke recognition of an entity that you recognized when it was time to recognize them.

(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

Probably true for CZ and PL. Sorry, if anyone - I know about HU better. "Amateurish" is already an understatement.

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Derecognition normally shouldn’t happen unless you need to declare war on an entity, and all other reasons for derecognizing are flawed.
(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

I do not agree. If the recognition process itself was flawed, it should be reversed.
But the reversal should be done after extensive homework.

"I am a poodle of Bush" vs. "I am a poodle of Putin" vs. "I hate Russians" is not "extensive homework".

It is clear, in all above cases that extensive homework wasn't done. Macedonia and CG is an other example. As with the case of Taiwan - even China's close allies do have extensive ties... carefully not p*ssing off either China or Taiwan.

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Even Liberia quickly cleared their position because they did not want to seem as a joke country
(Recognition, 26 June 2018 02:41)

I do not know where Liberia stands... and probably it has zero importance. I think, the # of recognitions is most important for BP himself (to make his position stronger).
In that sense, more recognitions are in Serbia's favor as BJ is more pragmatic and has good relationship with RU.

@Raisin, Wikipedia has a pretty stable list of recognitions, they furnish proof of recognition notes or official statements from foreign ministry departments. Nothing is added or subtracted without proof or debating it back and forth first. It’s the most neutral and comprehensive list out there. Article title: International recognition of Kosovo

When 111 recognize and 83 don't, chances are the 83 are using flawed judgment. Chances actually increase when you realize most of the non-recognizers are either countries with territorial issues or too poor to even have a qualified department of external affairs. Albanians may have a relatively small nation, but what really matters in international politics is the size of their allies. You could take on Albania, but can you take on NATO? Yeah, no...

Kosovo is a state according to the 110+ states
(icj1, 23 June 2018 03:11)

You're right again icj1, Kosovo is a state within the territory of Serbia; but, as you well know, it's not a country dear, Thank you for pointing this out......

111 countries did not have a flawed recognition process. Chances are the remaining countries are using flawed judgment to withhold recognitions. Like Spain for example, incorrectly linking Kosovo's sui generis case with Catalonia.

the cross symbol, represented by “+” is not a recognized integer
(OneTwoThree, 24 June 2018 13:58)

Congratulations for finally learning that and thank you for sharing your math learning progress with the rest of the readers on these forums lol