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Tuesday, 12.06.2018.

10:45

"Crimea is Russia; Kosovo is Serbia" - Russian ambassador

Russian Ambassador Aleksandr Chepurin has announced the possibility of his country getting "even more deeply involved" in resolving the Kosovo problem.

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People of Kosovo

pre 5 godina

How about russia and serbia follow the british example of hong kong : give kosovo back to albania and crimea back to ukraine and you will never be hated by anyone. Of course the agreement comes with both russia and serbia also having to stop killing people ?

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)
(Watcherovic, 13 June 2018 22:07)

Vučić doesn't agree with your opinion.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.
(Babbo Natale, 13 June 2018 01:32)

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@Albanopolis

of course the greek historians didn't consider the illyrians as greeks. they were invaders from the north. they invaded greek lands.

again.
its all greek.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

I don't think Serbia agrees that "Crimea is Russia"...their official stance is "Crimea is Ukraine".
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 12 June 2018 15:35)

At least Serbian politicians are smart enough to see that you cannot eihter support Russian land grabbing from Ukraine and complain about Albanian land grabbing in Kosovo.
Crimea's secession after the rigged 'vote' under occupation of little green men without state insignia was against the Ukrainian constitution - just as Kosovo's 'independence' is against Serbian constitution.

New Realities

pre 5 godina

Kosovo is Albania. They are likely going to merge soon. They have already merged culturally and economically. A political merger will be a natural progression soon, maybe even a necessity given the increased pooling of interests.

Guest

pre 5 godina

@Iron Knee

By your logic you’re saying that Illyrians were Greek and that Albanians too are an extension of Hellenism. We are flattered but everything you’ve said is beyond laughable. Illyrians were not Greeks and the name was not Greek. It comes from the Albanian word Ilir “ he who is free “ and they weren’t a single unified people but a loose connected ethnolinguistic tribal region more related socially and culturally to celts and Thracians than Greeks. That is where the Greek myth of the three siblings was first born which states Celts, Thracians And Illyrians all had a common lineage. Lake Skadar or Shkodër, is not a Greek name either, it was borrowed from the local inhabitants who spoke a paleo Balkanic language that might have been related to modern Albanian or a completely different language all together. As for Greek itself, it was only spoken by the elite class and the intelligentsia as it was the lingua Franca of the Eastern Roman Empire. Most peasant or commoners in the area couldn’t understand Greek let alone speak it. The Greeks never moved much further than their present territory in the Balkans, they had a few short lived cities along the Adriatic and Black Sea but that’s it. However with that being said, I don’t believe Albanians are the only people left that are of Illyrian heritage, most smart people would agree that the influx of Celts and Slavs meant that the people of the western Balkans mixed with out prejudice and developed new ethnic identities.

Babbo Natale

pre 5 godina

"The Crime issue is definitely closed, Crimea is Russia, and Kosovo is Serbia. It's not just a slogan, it's the legal reality that must be respected," Chepurin said.

It is BS to make you and the serbs feel better. Russians invaded Ukrainian territory by force. Kosovo went through a UN process in which Russia was totally involved(russian Alexander Botsan-Kharchenko was part of the status talks). The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.

Sam

pre 5 godina

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.


Tito was one of many things but he was not a poster boy God
Macedonia was a Republic before everyone in the Balkans the first
it was a my peoples land divided and partitioned by everyone around it
Macedonian was Republic within the FY
like Slovenia it was illegitimate member of the party from the start

Peggy

pre 5 godina

He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99
(Who, 12 June 2018 16:26
====================
Crawling you say? Do you actually know what N Korea got in return?
Nobody does at the moment so until the deal is out in public you can't say that Trump subdued Rocket Man.
Neither Rocket Man's father nor grandfather had a meeting with a US president but this one did. You can take that either way. Western media is trying to portray this as a victory for US. Trump made this happen and maybe it is but North Korea agreed to have a meeting. North Korean president didn't travel to Washington for a meeting, he had Trump meet him in is backyard.
So how much did North Korea benefit from this? Time will tell. One thing's for sure is that the world benefits and that's the most important thing.
If the US president had to travel to meet a leader then I am sure it didn't all go his way.

Navi

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Not really since historically, Crimea was part of Russia. Historically, Kosovo was never part of Albania and has no historical references to Albanians before the 19th century. I'm fine with Crimea being part of Ukraine, but Kosovo was never part of Albania.

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@guest...

it is a nice try that you're making,
but the balkans is all greek.
illyria is the name the greeks gave the region around skadar lake.
it was the greeks that build the trading routes through the balkans.
it was the greek language that all residents of the balkans spoke.

so. now that we have that clear. since the greeks, everyone is an interloper on their land.
so we can go back to what ever point in time convenient to your argument, only to go a bit further back to when it was all greek. all stop. again, all greek.

everything in the balkans started greek.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!
(Joni, 12 June 2018 12:15)

@ joniaj - ako ces Engleski, nauci da pises kako treba...inace, pricaj I pisi Srpski da te ceo svet razume, bre!

The One Who Knocks

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.

Who

pre 5 godina

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Few months ago you “serbs” were saying that Kim J.U. Doesn’t take crap from the USA , that the serbs should stand up againts the USA just like KJU of North Korea . Guess what? He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99

Guest

pre 5 godina

The western Balkans is Albanian, the south is Greek and the east is Romanian and Yugoslavs are originally from the Ukraine loooooool. Who gives a f@(k. Kosovo isn’t coming back and any Serbs with half a brain know that. Russia has been demoted to a regional power at best and its influence in world affairs has been replaced by China. The only reason they annexed Crimea is because they know Ukraine will be the next NATO member and a potential EU candidate. It’s a way for Putin to buy Russia time as NATO expands further east.

Demi

pre 5 godina

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Come on then you tough little boy?! Stop talking, start acting. We will handle the rest just like Djuric, an boot in the ass go back to Serbia. He was dragged through the streets like a dog as he Said him self and you dident do anyhing.

I dont see any serbs in Kosova. What are you going to do about it?! 1999 your mighty army walked out with their tale between their legs. I assure you they arent coming back no more.

Just wait When we form our army then you wont be so tough. Now its easy to play tough against an unarmed people.

sj

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.
(Tom L'Orizi, 12 June 2018 13:01)

I see my little Italian Albo you are suing one of those famous Albanian calculators where 2 plus equals 22.

Jovan

pre 5 godina

Once again our dear albanian friends are getting frenzy after a russian official is just stating the obvious.

Looks like they are nervous, though! :)

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.

Joni

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!

Zoran

pre 5 godina

"Crimea is Russia; Kosovo is Serbia" - Russian ambassador
--
Bravo bravo Mr Aleksandr Chepurin!! It is not in Russia's interest to have an independent "Kosova"***, it will soon become a member of NATO and another enemy of Russia.

Zoran

pre 5 godina

"Crimea is Russia; Kosovo is Serbia" - Russian ambassador
--
Bravo bravo Mr Aleksandr Chepurin!! It is not in Russia's interest to have an independent "Kosova"***, it will soon become a member of NATO and another enemy of Russia.

Jovan

pre 5 godina

Once again our dear albanian friends are getting frenzy after a russian official is just stating the obvious.

Looks like they are nervous, though! :)

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.

Joni

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!

Who

pre 5 godina

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Few months ago you “serbs” were saying that Kim J.U. Doesn’t take crap from the USA , that the serbs should stand up againts the USA just like KJU of North Korea . Guess what? He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.

sj

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.
(Tom L'Orizi, 12 June 2018 13:01)

I see my little Italian Albo you are suing one of those famous Albanian calculators where 2 plus equals 22.

Guest

pre 5 godina

The western Balkans is Albanian, the south is Greek and the east is Romanian and Yugoslavs are originally from the Ukraine loooooool. Who gives a f@(k. Kosovo isn’t coming back and any Serbs with half a brain know that. Russia has been demoted to a regional power at best and its influence in world affairs has been replaced by China. The only reason they annexed Crimea is because they know Ukraine will be the next NATO member and a potential EU candidate. It’s a way for Putin to buy Russia time as NATO expands further east.

Demi

pre 5 godina

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Come on then you tough little boy?! Stop talking, start acting. We will handle the rest just like Djuric, an boot in the ass go back to Serbia. He was dragged through the streets like a dog as he Said him self and you dident do anyhing.

I dont see any serbs in Kosova. What are you going to do about it?! 1999 your mighty army walked out with their tale between their legs. I assure you they arent coming back no more.

Just wait When we form our army then you wont be so tough. Now its easy to play tough against an unarmed people.

New Realities

pre 5 godina

Kosovo is Albania. They are likely going to merge soon. They have already merged culturally and economically. A political merger will be a natural progression soon, maybe even a necessity given the increased pooling of interests.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.

Navi

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Not really since historically, Crimea was part of Russia. Historically, Kosovo was never part of Albania and has no historical references to Albanians before the 19th century. I'm fine with Crimea being part of Ukraine, but Kosovo was never part of Albania.

Guest

pre 5 godina

@Iron Knee

By your logic you’re saying that Illyrians were Greek and that Albanians too are an extension of Hellenism. We are flattered but everything you’ve said is beyond laughable. Illyrians were not Greeks and the name was not Greek. It comes from the Albanian word Ilir “ he who is free “ and they weren’t a single unified people but a loose connected ethnolinguistic tribal region more related socially and culturally to celts and Thracians than Greeks. That is where the Greek myth of the three siblings was first born which states Celts, Thracians And Illyrians all had a common lineage. Lake Skadar or Shkodër, is not a Greek name either, it was borrowed from the local inhabitants who spoke a paleo Balkanic language that might have been related to modern Albanian or a completely different language all together. As for Greek itself, it was only spoken by the elite class and the intelligentsia as it was the lingua Franca of the Eastern Roman Empire. Most peasant or commoners in the area couldn’t understand Greek let alone speak it. The Greeks never moved much further than their present territory in the Balkans, they had a few short lived cities along the Adriatic and Black Sea but that’s it. However with that being said, I don’t believe Albanians are the only people left that are of Illyrian heritage, most smart people would agree that the influx of Celts and Slavs meant that the people of the western Balkans mixed with out prejudice and developed new ethnic identities.

The One Who Knocks

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!
(Joni, 12 June 2018 12:15)

@ joniaj - ako ces Engleski, nauci da pises kako treba...inace, pricaj I pisi Srpski da te ceo svet razume, bre!

Babbo Natale

pre 5 godina

"The Crime issue is definitely closed, Crimea is Russia, and Kosovo is Serbia. It's not just a slogan, it's the legal reality that must be respected," Chepurin said.

It is BS to make you and the serbs feel better. Russians invaded Ukrainian territory by force. Kosovo went through a UN process in which Russia was totally involved(russian Alexander Botsan-Kharchenko was part of the status talks). The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@guest...

it is a nice try that you're making,
but the balkans is all greek.
illyria is the name the greeks gave the region around skadar lake.
it was the greeks that build the trading routes through the balkans.
it was the greek language that all residents of the balkans spoke.

so. now that we have that clear. since the greeks, everyone is an interloper on their land.
so we can go back to what ever point in time convenient to your argument, only to go a bit further back to when it was all greek. all stop. again, all greek.

everything in the balkans started greek.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99
(Who, 12 June 2018 16:26
====================
Crawling you say? Do you actually know what N Korea got in return?
Nobody does at the moment so until the deal is out in public you can't say that Trump subdued Rocket Man.
Neither Rocket Man's father nor grandfather had a meeting with a US president but this one did. You can take that either way. Western media is trying to portray this as a victory for US. Trump made this happen and maybe it is but North Korea agreed to have a meeting. North Korean president didn't travel to Washington for a meeting, he had Trump meet him in is backyard.
So how much did North Korea benefit from this? Time will tell. One thing's for sure is that the world benefits and that's the most important thing.
If the US president had to travel to meet a leader then I am sure it didn't all go his way.

People of Kosovo

pre 5 godina

How about russia and serbia follow the british example of hong kong : give kosovo back to albania and crimea back to ukraine and you will never be hated by anyone. Of course the agreement comes with both russia and serbia also having to stop killing people ?

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)
(Watcherovic, 13 June 2018 22:07)

Vučić doesn't agree with your opinion.

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@Albanopolis

of course the greek historians didn't consider the illyrians as greeks. they were invaders from the north. they invaded greek lands.

again.
its all greek.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.
(Babbo Natale, 13 June 2018 01:32)

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

I don't think Serbia agrees that "Crimea is Russia"...their official stance is "Crimea is Ukraine".
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 12 June 2018 15:35)

At least Serbian politicians are smart enough to see that you cannot eihter support Russian land grabbing from Ukraine and complain about Albanian land grabbing in Kosovo.
Crimea's secession after the rigged 'vote' under occupation of little green men without state insignia was against the Ukrainian constitution - just as Kosovo's 'independence' is against Serbian constitution.

Sam

pre 5 godina

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.


Tito was one of many things but he was not a poster boy God
Macedonia was a Republic before everyone in the Balkans the first
it was a my peoples land divided and partitioned by everyone around it
Macedonian was Republic within the FY
like Slovenia it was illegitimate member of the party from the start

Zoran

pre 5 godina

"Crimea is Russia; Kosovo is Serbia" - Russian ambassador
--
Bravo bravo Mr Aleksandr Chepurin!! It is not in Russia's interest to have an independent "Kosova"***, it will soon become a member of NATO and another enemy of Russia.

Joni

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.

Demi

pre 5 godina

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Come on then you tough little boy?! Stop talking, start acting. We will handle the rest just like Djuric, an boot in the ass go back to Serbia. He was dragged through the streets like a dog as he Said him self and you dident do anyhing.

I dont see any serbs in Kosova. What are you going to do about it?! 1999 your mighty army walked out with their tale between their legs. I assure you they arent coming back no more.

Just wait When we form our army then you wont be so tough. Now its easy to play tough against an unarmed people.

The One Who Knocks

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.

Navi

pre 5 godina

You do realise that if you consider Crimea to be Russia, then you are also saying Kosovo is Albania?
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Not really since historically, Crimea was part of Russia. Historically, Kosovo was never part of Albania and has no historical references to Albanians before the 19th century. I'm fine with Crimea being part of Ukraine, but Kosovo was never part of Albania.

Guest

pre 5 godina

The western Balkans is Albanian, the south is Greek and the east is Romanian and Yugoslavs are originally from the Ukraine loooooool. Who gives a f@(k. Kosovo isn’t coming back and any Serbs with half a brain know that. Russia has been demoted to a regional power at best and its influence in world affairs has been replaced by China. The only reason they annexed Crimea is because they know Ukraine will be the next NATO member and a potential EU candidate. It’s a way for Putin to buy Russia time as NATO expands further east.

People of Kosovo

pre 5 godina

How about russia and serbia follow the british example of hong kong : give kosovo back to albania and crimea back to ukraine and you will never be hated by anyone. Of course the agreement comes with both russia and serbia also having to stop killing people ?

sj

pre 5 godina

With this statement, Russia is making Serbia go back on their support for the Ukrainian sovereignty and de facto nudging Serbia to recognise Kosova's independence.

This explains who's people the fuel protesters are. It's a sign.
(Tom L'Orizi, 12 June 2018 13:01)

I see my little Italian Albo you are suing one of those famous Albanian calculators where 2 plus equals 22.

Who

pre 5 godina

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.
(Jovan, 12 June 2018 14:57)

Few months ago you “serbs” were saying that Kim J.U. Doesn’t take crap from the USA , that the serbs should stand up againts the USA just like KJU of North Korea . Guess what? He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@guest...

it is a nice try that you're making,
but the balkans is all greek.
illyria is the name the greeks gave the region around skadar lake.
it was the greeks that build the trading routes through the balkans.
it was the greek language that all residents of the balkans spoke.

so. now that we have that clear. since the greeks, everyone is an interloper on their land.
so we can go back to what ever point in time convenient to your argument, only to go a bit further back to when it was all greek. all stop. again, all greek.

everything in the balkans started greek.

Jovan

pre 5 godina

Once again our dear albanian friends are getting frenzy after a russian official is just stating the obvious.

Looks like they are nervous, though! :)

Just a few hours ago Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim made a joint statement and added that "Enemies can become Friends!"

I can assure you Serbia will not become your friend, Serbia will take back what belongs to Serbia.

This is far from over. You will see.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

He came down crawling , and so will you and vucic. As soon as the ruskis need a favor from the mighty USA you will be for sale AGAIN. Remember 99
(Who, 12 June 2018 16:26
====================
Crawling you say? Do you actually know what N Korea got in return?
Nobody does at the moment so until the deal is out in public you can't say that Trump subdued Rocket Man.
Neither Rocket Man's father nor grandfather had a meeting with a US president but this one did. You can take that either way. Western media is trying to portray this as a victory for US. Trump made this happen and maybe it is but North Korea agreed to have a meeting. North Korean president didn't travel to Washington for a meeting, he had Trump meet him in is backyard.
So how much did North Korea benefit from this? Time will tell. One thing's for sure is that the world benefits and that's the most important thing.
If the US president had to travel to meet a leader then I am sure it didn't all go his way.

New Realities

pre 5 godina

Kosovo is Albania. They are likely going to merge soon. They have already merged culturally and economically. A political merger will be a natural progression soon, maybe even a necessity given the increased pooling of interests.

Babbo Natale

pre 5 godina

"The Crime issue is definitely closed, Crimea is Russia, and Kosovo is Serbia. It's not just a slogan, it's the legal reality that must be respected," Chepurin said.

It is BS to make you and the serbs feel better. Russians invaded Ukrainian territory by force. Kosovo went through a UN process in which Russia was totally involved(russian Alexander Botsan-Kharchenko was part of the status talks). The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 5 godina

I don't think Serbia agrees that "Crimea is Russia"...their official stance is "Crimea is Ukraine".
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 12 June 2018 15:35)

At least Serbian politicians are smart enough to see that you cannot eihter support Russian land grabbing from Ukraine and complain about Albanian land grabbing in Kosovo.
Crimea's secession after the rigged 'vote' under occupation of little green men without state insignia was against the Ukrainian constitution - just as Kosovo's 'independence' is against Serbian constitution.

Jugoslavija

pre 5 godina

I am saying this because both of the region's sovereignty was decided by the population of that region. Majority of Crimea wanted to rejoin Russia and majority of Kosovo wanted to become independent.
(The One Who Knocks, 12 June 2018 17:05)

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.

Sam

pre 5 godina

Crimea was always part of Russia, Kruchev decided to give it to Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, nobody blinked. TITO decided to give nominal autonomy to Kosovo within Serbian borders, again, nobody blinked. Tito also created the artificial republic of FYROM, Greece or Bulgaria did not blink. Get the picture or do you need it drawn up in a kindergarten board for you to understand.


Tito was one of many things but he was not a poster boy God
Macedonia was a Republic before everyone in the Balkans the first
it was a my peoples land divided and partitioned by everyone around it
Macedonian was Republic within the FY
like Slovenia it was illegitimate member of the party from the start

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Hahahahah.....Russians know how to deal with Serbs - say to them a lie and they will love you....
According to him Kosovo is Serbia because there was not a referendum... which in fact is not true there was a referendum..
Do you understand? Hahahahaah!
If Russia don;t recognize Kosovo because of the referendum - make a referendum to make them shushhh...
Pathethic for real!
(Joni, 12 June 2018 12:15)

@ joniaj - ako ces Engleski, nauci da pises kako treba...inace, pricaj I pisi Srpski da te ceo svet razume, bre!

Guest

pre 5 godina

@Iron Knee

By your logic you’re saying that Illyrians were Greek and that Albanians too are an extension of Hellenism. We are flattered but everything you’ve said is beyond laughable. Illyrians were not Greeks and the name was not Greek. It comes from the Albanian word Ilir “ he who is free “ and they weren’t a single unified people but a loose connected ethnolinguistic tribal region more related socially and culturally to celts and Thracians than Greeks. That is where the Greek myth of the three siblings was first born which states Celts, Thracians And Illyrians all had a common lineage. Lake Skadar or Shkodër, is not a Greek name either, it was borrowed from the local inhabitants who spoke a paleo Balkanic language that might have been related to modern Albanian or a completely different language all together. As for Greek itself, it was only spoken by the elite class and the intelligentsia as it was the lingua Franca of the Eastern Roman Empire. Most peasant or commoners in the area couldn’t understand Greek let alone speak it. The Greeks never moved much further than their present territory in the Balkans, they had a few short lived cities along the Adriatic and Black Sea but that’s it. However with that being said, I don’t believe Albanians are the only people left that are of Illyrian heritage, most smart people would agree that the influx of Celts and Slavs meant that the people of the western Balkans mixed with out prejudice and developed new ethnic identities.

iron knee

pre 5 godina

@Albanopolis

of course the greek historians didn't consider the illyrians as greeks. they were invaders from the north. they invaded greek lands.

again.
its all greek.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

The only legal reality is ICJ decision about Kosovo.
(Babbo Natale, 13 June 2018 01:32)

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)

Tom L'Orizi

pre 5 godina

@ babboaj - lol, that same "legal reality" also gave the kitchen sink the right to SAY it's independent from the kitchen, lol;)
Worthless! You alb's latch onto it like it's the world to you, but any salt without flavor...no validity in the real world;)
(Watcherovic, 13 June 2018 22:07)

Vučić doesn't agree with your opinion.