It wasn't like this in Europe even before WW1, says Vucic

Why open new chapters, when you can't close the one chapter that counts: Chapter 35, Kosovo.

The EU is finished, what is happening in Italy is just more evidence. When this idea of a federalised EU, the United States of Europe was being pushed, that was the last nail in its coffin.

Keeping accepting accession funds, keep modernising Serbia and keep developing the economy. Kosovo can be our carrot but independence is not an option. Play the game and play it well, make Serbia strong again. We have powerful friends.

@Leonidas

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!

Zoran & sj,
President Vucic disagrees with you. Who should we believe?

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

We, he added, should in all this preserve peace and stability and develop the economy. That has long time ago disappeared with Serbia's many war crimes just like before WW1. The Dutch are still pissed off at what genocidal Serbs did in Srebrenica. For Serbia lying playing them criminally and stealing Dutch money. Serbia thinks Europe has forgotten or it's neighbors only a idiot would. Serbia breaking the longest peace Europe ever had. French are looking for a special deal for them self's and leadership of Eu. Until then it is not interested in loser Serbia it has nothing to offer.

It wasn't like this in Europe even before WW1, says Vucic

Serbia before WWI executed their own king and his wife, started two wars with her neighbors and was involved in the assassination of another head of state which sparkled WWI.
While Vucic is by any stretch of imagination Queen Draga, the way Serbia is behaving now is clear indication that is interested in repeating the history.
That's why Croatia, Albania and Montenegro joined NATO, with FYROM rushing to secure herself too.
Croatia, Albania and Montenegro need to seriously update and modernize their Armies and Air Forces. Kosovo also needs to turn FSK into a regular army as well.
Is not a question of "If Serbia will attack" its a question of "when will attack".

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 22 May 2018 15:31)

Excuse me but why are you working in Berlin ?

In a nutshell its all to do with money. There are too many hands in the air to take out of the European Fund and not enough putting in so is there any wonder France and the Dutch are putting the brakes on EU expansion?

The French have delayed economic reform for too long and they are going through it at the worst possible time, while the Dutch do not want to pour more money into the fund at the expense of their internal interest.

@Zoran

And if the EU falls apart, then what will they be?

Still five times further ahead than Serbia.

So I don't understand what you're squawking about...

"You saw (Lega Nord leader Matteo) Salvini's statement and may even leave the eurozone - we'll see," Vucic said.

They will do nothing of the sort.The same as Brexit,the elites will rather die than abandon their pet project.If they try to fulfil any of their election pledges the European Central Bank will intervene by cutting their banks liquidity and force them to declare bank closures as they did with Greece and Cyprus.
I drove last year the full length of Italy and back. The north is a normal industrial country, on the surface, but the south is visibly broken, with a rapidly decaying infrastructure once you exit the autostarda, and loads of people busy doing nothing.
I don’t think the EU will collapse as a result of the actions of one country but rather because of combination of events taking place which will bring the whole edifice to a breaking point.Take for example Target 2 which was designed as the EUs payment system and ended being the EUs C/C.The difference with normal C/C is the interest is zero and the loan never need to be repaid.Italy and Spain owe collectively 1trillion/e to Germany which will never recover.This year alone Italy will have to roll over nearly 20% of its debt of 2.4 Trillion/e with no buyers in sight and the ECB as the buyer of last resort.

You are wrong again ,and do not even live Nis Serbia.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.

They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon. That is just to come in summer of 2018.
I live in Serbia and travel constantly to Nis, not like you ))
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 22 May 2018 18:39) # Comment link

Yee, take a trip from Nis to Merdare the border with Kosova and tell us all what you see!? I passed there and it reminded me of 1950-60. So the clock has stopped there since than. Once you cross the border at Merdare and enter Kosova, it is a paradise, believe me!You should take the trip if you are from Nis, and you should stop still wearing the caskaka on your had and by a new modern hat!

@Sasa

Your points are valid but those facts don't change the reality that it is extremely difficult for a young man to find a decent job, educated or not.

In Niš, it is extremely rare that a young man can find a job earning more than 300€ a month. Only one of my fifty or so male friends in the Niš area ever earned that much per month.

It is great that a measure of growth is happening these days but citizens of the region only earn 1/8 of what Westerners earn. That is the plain simple fact of the matter. Life in Niš is a far cry from what life is like in America.

@sasa

By the way, where is Lozni kalem? Never heard of it. I am aware of Trosarina, Medijana, Brzi brod, and Broj sest (which are all on the way from Nis to Niska Banja) but nothing of this Lozni kalem.

Niska Banja might get a boost some time in the future but we have to keep in mind that it has been in a long decline for decades. Friends of mine who rent rooms there tell me that the tourism industry is miserable these days. In fact, it was so bad last year that Niska Banja is officially no longer considered an official spa town (because they did not meet the minimum number of overnight stays to qualify).

You might have select statistics to cite but the overall reality is quite grim. The Serb in Nis is right.

Until then it is not interested in loser Serbia it has nothing to offer.
(Lenard, 22 May 2018 18:46)

That's funny considering all the investments the EU has planned for Serbia and especially Belgrade. It's also funny considering the individual investments made in the country from Italian, Austrian, French, American, Chinese, and Russian firms.

Don't worry Lenny, Croats will still corner the market in serving drinks to German vacationers to the Dalmatian coast and cleaning public toilets in bus stations in Italy and Austria. Serving Hungarian and Austrian nobility for more than 1000 years has sort of made you people professionals in cleaning up messes left by others :)

Now here's a shiny euro for your time. No need to kiss my shoes in gratitude :)

... Have you ever thought why are Europe's prisons full of Albanians-30% of all prisoners in Greece alone...
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 16:05)

So, the remaining 70% of prisoners in Greece are Greeks. I reckon being put there by the bailiffs for defaulting on their debts.

the cat was let out of the bag by various EU officials many month ago, that serbias chance of EU accesion in the forseeable future is about zero. anyhow lets keep pretending, the show must go on. if vucic says the truth about this, he's gone, and if he gives away kosovo he's gone too. so serbia will remain frozen for the next decades and continue just like this.
well many serbs certainly would prefere that state over being a german colony in the 4th reich and having their lifes being dictated by german rules and who can blame then.

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
(Nis Serb, 22 May 2018 18:06

You are wrong again ,and do not even live Nis Serbia.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.

They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon. That is just to come in summer of 2018.
I live in Serbia and travel constantly to Nis, not like you ))

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe.
(Nis Serb,

I live in Serbia and can dispute your claims ))
Leoni opens third factory in Serbia – Jobs for 2,200 in Nis. The leading European producer of cables and cable systems for the automotive and other industries, Leoni, opened its third factory in Serbia on Saturday, July 29, 2017, in Nis, in the presence of President Aleksandar Vucic.
The value of the investment is EUR 22 million, and the factory will employ 2,200 people.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.
They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
According to Bulatovic, 25 hectares of land in Lozni Kalem is intended for tourism industry, i.e. construction of hotels,, spas and wellness centers and other facilities that could boost tourism in Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon.
Just a few these happening in private sector , let alone the government hospitals opening new wards with Employment.

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi)

No, Iam an Albanian of Italian "ancestry".
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 10:29)

Oooo, so you just promoted yourself and became Albanian? Is it because you are hiding from your creditors?!

But the bankruptcy expertise remains your strong asset though.

Well said Svabo. The EU is all about maintaining German power over the rest of Europe. My country was forced to fight two world wars to stop German hegemony and will soon leave the EU because it will no longer tolerate being ruled by German-controlled Brussels and Berlin. We do not want to be a colony of the Fourth Reich either. Serbia has a strategic position and should use this position to maintain its independence.

Why open new chapters, when you can't close the one chapter that counts: Chapter 35, Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 22 May 2018 10:54)

Perfectly OK, keep working on bringing Srbija up to EU standards and taking the money....at the end of the day, if EU doesn't absorb their "investment" because of "kosova", no hard feelings;))

Are you aware that the EU is still printing money to kick start its economy?
(sj, 23 May 2018 09:33)

You're wasting your time trying to persuade the Albanian crowd on how the EU creates money out of thin air and as a result throws few scraps at them.The big problems will start when the fat lady stops singing(printing)and it's being pencilled to happen before the end of the year.

If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 23 May 2018 01:36)
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Who are they? The EU? Sorry to break the news but the EU is status neutral as not all members have recognised "Kosova"***. It is a matter that divides the EU and also NATO, by their own making. Keep dreaming.

If EU and USA wants Serbia to agree on Kosovo issue they have to put sanctions on Serbia semaler sanctions like North Korea.
(Bob, 23 May 2018 07:55)
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LOL! And then what happens to the large investments made by companies from Italy, Belgium, France, Germany and so on? Keep dreaming. There will definitely not be any sanctions from the EU.

But the bankruptcy expertise remains your strong asset though.
(Tom L'Orizi,

We are all experts in something.Look at the Albanians as an example.Have you ever thought why are Europe's prisons full of Albanians-30% of all prisoners in Greece alone.It's because of their expertise in robberies,drug dealing,human trafficking,extortion,gun running and kidnapping amongst others.But you wouldn't know anything about all these,would you?

@Leonidas

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2018 20:32)

Your smarter than you look. Former Greek minister Yanis Varoufakis was pushing for bankruptcy and switching back to the Greek Drachma, really the only choice for Greece then and now as the debt is unsustainable. But let's face facts, the US debt is clearly unsustainable as well as European countries Italy, France and Spain. Albania is on the opposite end, nobody wants to dump capital into that cesspool.

It is great that a measure of growth is happening these days but citizens of the region only earn 1/8 of what Westerners earn. That is the plain simple fact of the matter. Life in Niš is a far cry from what life is like in America.
(JS, 22 May 2018 19:58)
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How are you comparing it? Purely monetary? What about quality of life, family values and other aspects? That's what I love about Serbia, the hospitality, the people. They don't need as much to have a good life. Families stay together longer and family values are strong. Things are not as expensive. Westerners are obsessed with money and lose out of life, they become slaves. Those from the region that escape to the west, the first generation, don't tend to have a better life. They become cleaners, factory workers, they struggle and lose out. Eastern Europeans are all over western Europe. They earn more but the cost of living is also much higher. At the end of the day, is it any better? They gain is some respects and lose in others. Many have gone back home.

You won’t get any new funds or chapters opened without making concessions on Kosovo. If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.

If EU and USA wants Serbia to agree on Kosovo issue they have to put sanctions on Serbia semaler sanctions like North Korea.

You won’t get any new funds or chapters opened without making concessions on Kosovo. If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 23 May 2018 01:36)

What planet do you live on? New money is coming from the EU, but more to the point is what has the EU or US given Kosovo? I know NOTHING.

Zoran & sj,
President Vucic disagrees with you. Who should we believe?
(Nis Serb, 22 May 2018 17:39)

Vucic is playing to a different agenda – he is a politician.

The real reason why France and Holland are against any further enlargement are all about money. With the UK leaving there are more out there seeking a handout than putting into the EU Fund.

Are you aware that the EU is still printing money to kick start its economy?

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi)

No, Iam an Albanian of Italian "ancestry".

@Zoran

"How are you comparing it? Purely monetary? What about quality of life, family values and other aspects?"

But I thought you said it's contaminated by depleted uranium...

"That's what I love about Serbia, the hospitality, the people."

There is truth in this. But there are a lot of seljak -- people who are extremely uneducated, rough, and disrespectful. Nearly every village has its fair share of cursing, drunk men sitting in front of the local market. I have never seen anything comparable in the US.

"They don't need as much to have a good life. Families stay together longer and family values are strong."

There is some truth in this. But nearly every family gets into a lawsuit about inheritance, many older people are left in the village to fend for themselves, and I don't know what family values you are referring to...

"Things are not as expensive."

True, for products made in Serbia. But electronics cost 40% more and fuel is more than double the price in America.

"Eastern Europeans are all over western Europe. They earn more but the cost of living is also much higher. At the end of the day, is it any better?"

But why are they still there?

"They gain is some respects and lose in others. Many have gone back home."

To retire. Because it's much cheaper to live in Serbia than Germany, Switzerland, etc.

To so called "Truth
I am Sorry "The truth, I live near Jagodina City,not Nis .
Jagodina City gets near 1 million tourist annually. Jagodina has a lot of attractions for tourist to visit for a city with only 75,000 population.
Jagodina built the largest artificial waterfall in the Balkans in 2014-2015. It is 8 meters high, and 12 meters wide, and at night the colors on the water change to different hues. The waterfall is in the city park where outdoor performances are held in the summer.
Aqua Park , Zoo , Wax Museum and a modern Vivo shopping park. Jagodina has festivals ,like the Jagodina Marathon.
I am sure Jagodina City gets more tourist than your closed in Ghetto Pristina annually . I do not wear white hats ))
Your name should be "Lies"))

You're wasting your time trying to persuade the Albanian crowd on how the EU creates money out of thin air and as a result throws few scraps at them.The big problems will start when the fat lady stops singing(printing)and it's being pencilled to happen before the end of the year.
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 13:21)

I know, but it makes fools out of the Albos since hey think money comes out of thin air and yet they get nothing.

To Who: Because I work at our embassy here.

As I said, if they invest money on you, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo one way or another. And the EU can’t be status neutral when more than half of it has recognized. Any policy that favors Serbia has to have the okay of those who have recognized Kosovo, otherwise it won’t happen. Also percentage wise there’s much more money going to Kosovo than Serbia, even though it might seem less because of the population numbers being different. Either way you look at it Kosovo has the upper hand on Serbia.

By the comment of fellow commenters here one may conclude that Balkans are not ready for EU for another 100 years, but they are ready for war tomorrow.

AFAIK, Jagodina has the closest railway station if you want to visit Manasija.
At the time we went to Manasija the place was called Svetozarevo.

Now it is Jagodina but we do not use railway anymore, it is in quite bad shape.

Car is more convenient.

AFAIK, Jagodina has the closest railway station if you want to visit Manasija.
At the time we went to Manasija the place was called Svetozarevo.

Now it is Jagodina but we do not use railway anymore, it is in quite bad shape.

Car is more convenient.
(Honcho, 25 May 2018 02:43) # Commen

To Honcho
It is been called Jagodina now for 25 years , so you visited over 25 years ago .
Their is a new train service,from Belgrade to Nis that Stops at Jagodina City .
The train services is newer and better then the Sydney or New York dirty, filthy services you get .
A lot has changed in Serbia in last 5 years ,let alone when it was called Svetozarevo 😁.
Since Svetozarevo , now Jagodina City has a new football Stadium (to UEFA standard), Zoo ,Aqua Water slides Park ,Fountain Park ,Wax Museaum and 2 new shopping centres )).
I get tired of reading people's thought and expression when they never been in the region or vidited 25 years ago when Yugoslavia))

@sasa

It sounds like you haven't been in New York City since Serbia was a monarchy. Serbia has some of the slowest and most disgusting trains around. The only nice trains are the ones recently donated by the Russians. But they still only travel at 25km per hour because the tracks haven't been repaired in years. Try riding the train around Serbia once or twice. Unless you can somehow patch together enough train services that have the new Russian rail cars, I promise you will never do it again.

The EU is finished, what is happening in Italy is just more evidence. When this idea of a federalised EU, the United States of Europe was being pushed, that was the last nail in its coffin.

Keeping accepting accession funds, keep modernising Serbia and keep developing the economy. Kosovo can be our carrot but independence is not an option. Play the game and play it well, make Serbia strong again. We have powerful friends.

Well said Svabo. The EU is all about maintaining German power over the rest of Europe. My country was forced to fight two world wars to stop German hegemony and will soon leave the EU because it will no longer tolerate being ruled by German-controlled Brussels and Berlin. We do not want to be a colony of the Fourth Reich either. Serbia has a strategic position and should use this position to maintain its independence.

In a nutshell its all to do with money. There are too many hands in the air to take out of the European Fund and not enough putting in so is there any wonder France and the Dutch are putting the brakes on EU expansion?

The French have delayed economic reform for too long and they are going through it at the worst possible time, while the Dutch do not want to pour more money into the fund at the expense of their internal interest.

Until then it is not interested in loser Serbia it has nothing to offer.
(Lenard, 22 May 2018 18:46)

That's funny considering all the investments the EU has planned for Serbia and especially Belgrade. It's also funny considering the individual investments made in the country from Italian, Austrian, French, American, Chinese, and Russian firms.

Don't worry Lenny, Croats will still corner the market in serving drinks to German vacationers to the Dalmatian coast and cleaning public toilets in bus stations in Italy and Austria. Serving Hungarian and Austrian nobility for more than 1000 years has sort of made you people professionals in cleaning up messes left by others :)

Now here's a shiny euro for your time. No need to kiss my shoes in gratitude :)

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
(Nis Serb, 22 May 2018 18:06

You are wrong again ,and do not even live Nis Serbia.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.

They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon. That is just to come in summer of 2018.
I live in Serbia and travel constantly to Nis, not like you ))

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe.
(Nis Serb,

I live in Serbia and can dispute your claims ))
Leoni opens third factory in Serbia – Jobs for 2,200 in Nis. The leading European producer of cables and cable systems for the automotive and other industries, Leoni, opened its third factory in Serbia on Saturday, July 29, 2017, in Nis, in the presence of President Aleksandar Vucic.
The value of the investment is EUR 22 million, and the factory will employ 2,200 people.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.
They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
According to Bulatovic, 25 hectares of land in Lozni Kalem is intended for tourism industry, i.e. construction of hotels,, spas and wellness centers and other facilities that could boost tourism in Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon.
Just a few these happening in private sector , let alone the government hospitals opening new wards with Employment.

Why open new chapters, when you can't close the one chapter that counts: Chapter 35, Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 22 May 2018 10:54)

Perfectly OK, keep working on bringing Srbija up to EU standards and taking the money....at the end of the day, if EU doesn't absorb their "investment" because of "kosova", no hard feelings;))

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

How many of the commentaters on b92 live in Serbia. Here in Nis there are no jobs. I think Serbia is in much worse shape than what many of the commentaters believe. Bottom line: Serbia has no choice but to join the EU as there is no viable alternative. My advice: Serbia, don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

We, he added, should in all this preserve peace and stability and develop the economy. That has long time ago disappeared with Serbia's many war crimes just like before WW1. The Dutch are still pissed off at what genocidal Serbs did in Srebrenica. For Serbia lying playing them criminally and stealing Dutch money. Serbia thinks Europe has forgotten or it's neighbors only a idiot would. Serbia breaking the longest peace Europe ever had. French are looking for a special deal for them self's and leadership of Eu. Until then it is not interested in loser Serbia it has nothing to offer.

It wasn't like this in Europe even before WW1, says Vucic

Serbia before WWI executed their own king and his wife, started two wars with her neighbors and was involved in the assassination of another head of state which sparkled WWI.
While Vucic is by any stretch of imagination Queen Draga, the way Serbia is behaving now is clear indication that is interested in repeating the history.
That's why Croatia, Albania and Montenegro joined NATO, with FYROM rushing to secure herself too.
Croatia, Albania and Montenegro need to seriously update and modernize their Armies and Air Forces. Kosovo also needs to turn FSK into a regular army as well.
Is not a question of "If Serbia will attack" its a question of "when will attack".

the cat was let out of the bag by various EU officials many month ago, that serbias chance of EU accesion in the forseeable future is about zero. anyhow lets keep pretending, the show must go on. if vucic says the truth about this, he's gone, and if he gives away kosovo he's gone too. so serbia will remain frozen for the next decades and continue just like this.
well many serbs certainly would prefere that state over being a german colony in the 4th reich and having their lifes being dictated by german rules and who can blame then.

@Leonidas

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!

To Who: Because I work at our embassy here.

@Zoran

And if the EU falls apart, then what will they be?

Still five times further ahead than Serbia.

So I don't understand what you're squawking about...

"You saw (Lega Nord leader Matteo) Salvini's statement and may even leave the eurozone - we'll see," Vucic said.

They will do nothing of the sort.The same as Brexit,the elites will rather die than abandon their pet project.If they try to fulfil any of their election pledges the European Central Bank will intervene by cutting their banks liquidity and force them to declare bank closures as they did with Greece and Cyprus.
I drove last year the full length of Italy and back. The north is a normal industrial country, on the surface, but the south is visibly broken, with a rapidly decaying infrastructure once you exit the autostarda, and loads of people busy doing nothing.
I don’t think the EU will collapse as a result of the actions of one country but rather because of combination of events taking place which will bring the whole edifice to a breaking point.Take for example Target 2 which was designed as the EUs payment system and ended being the EUs C/C.The difference with normal C/C is the interest is zero and the loan never need to be repaid.Italy and Spain owe collectively 1trillion/e to Germany which will never recover.This year alone Italy will have to roll over nearly 20% of its debt of 2.4 Trillion/e with no buyers in sight and the ECB as the buyer of last resort.

Zoran & sj,
President Vucic disagrees with you. Who should we believe?

... Have you ever thought why are Europe's prisons full of Albanians-30% of all prisoners in Greece alone...
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 16:05)

So, the remaining 70% of prisoners in Greece are Greeks. I reckon being put there by the bailiffs for defaulting on their debts.

You are wrong again ,and do not even live Nis Serbia.

Mayor of the Southern Serbian town of Nis, Darko Bulatovic said that four companies would open their factories in Nis by the end of the year – IMI, Zumtobel, Leoni and Johnson Electric.

They are expected to employ around 7,000 people. “A lot of the workers they are going to hire are engineers and highly educated people”, Bulatovic said while visiting the Lozni Kalem industrial zone, located at the entrance to Niska Banja.
He said that a public call for the construction of a water park at that location would be launched soon. That is just to come in summer of 2018.
I live in Serbia and travel constantly to Nis, not like you ))
(Sasa from near Jagodina, 22 May 2018 18:39) # Comment link

Yee, take a trip from Nis to Merdare the border with Kosova and tell us all what you see!? I passed there and it reminded me of 1950-60. So the clock has stopped there since than. Once you cross the border at Merdare and enter Kosova, it is a paradise, believe me!You should take the trip if you are from Nis, and you should stop still wearing the caskaka on your had and by a new modern hat!

@Sasa

Your points are valid but those facts don't change the reality that it is extremely difficult for a young man to find a decent job, educated or not.

In Niš, it is extremely rare that a young man can find a job earning more than 300€ a month. Only one of my fifty or so male friends in the Niš area ever earned that much per month.

It is great that a measure of growth is happening these days but citizens of the region only earn 1/8 of what Westerners earn. That is the plain simple fact of the matter. Life in Niš is a far cry from what life is like in America.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 22 May 2018 15:31)

Excuse me but why are you working in Berlin ?

If EU and USA wants Serbia to agree on Kosovo issue they have to put sanctions on Serbia semaler sanctions like North Korea.
(Bob, 23 May 2018 07:55)
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LOL! And then what happens to the large investments made by companies from Italy, Belgium, France, Germany and so on? Keep dreaming. There will definitely not be any sanctions from the EU.

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi)

No, Iam an Albanian of Italian "ancestry".
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 10:29)

Oooo, so you just promoted yourself and became Albanian? Is it because you are hiding from your creditors?!

But the bankruptcy expertise remains your strong asset though.

@Leonidas

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi, 22 May 2018 20:32)

Your smarter than you look. Former Greek minister Yanis Varoufakis was pushing for bankruptcy and switching back to the Greek Drachma, really the only choice for Greece then and now as the debt is unsustainable. But let's face facts, the US debt is clearly unsustainable as well as European countries Italy, France and Spain. Albania is on the opposite end, nobody wants to dump capital into that cesspool.

It is great that a measure of growth is happening these days but citizens of the region only earn 1/8 of what Westerners earn. That is the plain simple fact of the matter. Life in Niš is a far cry from what life is like in America.
(JS, 22 May 2018 19:58)
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How are you comparing it? Purely monetary? What about quality of life, family values and other aspects? That's what I love about Serbia, the hospitality, the people. They don't need as much to have a good life. Families stay together longer and family values are strong. Things are not as expensive. Westerners are obsessed with money and lose out of life, they become slaves. Those from the region that escape to the west, the first generation, don't tend to have a better life. They become cleaners, factory workers, they struggle and lose out. Eastern Europeans are all over western Europe. They earn more but the cost of living is also much higher. At the end of the day, is it any better? They gain is some respects and lose in others. Many have gone back home.

Zoran & sj,
President Vucic disagrees with you. Who should we believe?
(Nis Serb, 22 May 2018 17:39)

Vucic is playing to a different agenda – he is a politician.

The real reason why France and Holland are against any further enlargement are all about money. With the UK leaving there are more out there seeking a handout than putting into the EU Fund.

Are you aware that the EU is still printing money to kick start its economy?

To so called "Truth
I am Sorry "The truth, I live near Jagodina City,not Nis .
Jagodina City gets near 1 million tourist annually. Jagodina has a lot of attractions for tourist to visit for a city with only 75,000 population.
Jagodina built the largest artificial waterfall in the Balkans in 2014-2015. It is 8 meters high, and 12 meters wide, and at night the colors on the water change to different hues. The waterfall is in the city park where outdoor performances are held in the summer.
Aqua Park , Zoo , Wax Museum and a modern Vivo shopping park. Jagodina has festivals ,like the Jagodina Marathon.
I am sure Jagodina City gets more tourist than your closed in Ghetto Pristina annually . I do not wear white hats ))
Your name should be "Lies"))

If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 23 May 2018 01:36)
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Who are they? The EU? Sorry to break the news but the EU is status neutral as not all members have recognised "Kosova"***. It is a matter that divides the EU and also NATO, by their own making. Keep dreaming.

But the bankruptcy expertise remains your strong asset though.
(Tom L'Orizi,

We are all experts in something.Look at the Albanians as an example.Have you ever thought why are Europe's prisons full of Albanians-30% of all prisoners in Greece alone.It's because of their expertise in robberies,drug dealing,human trafficking,extortion,gun running and kidnapping amongst others.But you wouldn't know anything about all these,would you?

Why open new chapters, when you can't close the one chapter that counts: Chapter 35, Kosovo.

@sasa

By the way, where is Lozni kalem? Never heard of it. I am aware of Trosarina, Medijana, Brzi brod, and Broj sest (which are all on the way from Nis to Niska Banja) but nothing of this Lozni kalem.

Niska Banja might get a boost some time in the future but we have to keep in mind that it has been in a long decline for decades. Friends of mine who rent rooms there tell me that the tourism industry is miserable these days. In fact, it was so bad last year that Niska Banja is officially no longer considered an official spa town (because they did not meet the minimum number of overnight stays to qualify).

You might have select statistics to cite but the overall reality is quite grim. The Serb in Nis is right.

If EU and USA wants Serbia to agree on Kosovo issue they have to put sanctions on Serbia semaler sanctions like North Korea.

You seem to know a thing or two about bankruptcy. This makes you a Greek I guess!
(Tom L'Orizi)

No, Iam an Albanian of Italian "ancestry".

@Zoran

"How are you comparing it? Purely monetary? What about quality of life, family values and other aspects?"

But I thought you said it's contaminated by depleted uranium...

"That's what I love about Serbia, the hospitality, the people."

There is truth in this. But there are a lot of seljak -- people who are extremely uneducated, rough, and disrespectful. Nearly every village has its fair share of cursing, drunk men sitting in front of the local market. I have never seen anything comparable in the US.

"They don't need as much to have a good life. Families stay together longer and family values are strong."

There is some truth in this. But nearly every family gets into a lawsuit about inheritance, many older people are left in the village to fend for themselves, and I don't know what family values you are referring to...

"Things are not as expensive."

True, for products made in Serbia. But electronics cost 40% more and fuel is more than double the price in America.

"Eastern Europeans are all over western Europe. They earn more but the cost of living is also much higher. At the end of the day, is it any better?"

But why are they still there?

"They gain is some respects and lose in others. Many have gone back home."

To retire. Because it's much cheaper to live in Serbia than Germany, Switzerland, etc.

You won’t get any new funds or chapters opened without making concessions on Kosovo. If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.

You won’t get any new funds or chapters opened without making concessions on Kosovo. If new money comes from EU, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo.
(Why Bother, 23 May 2018 01:36)

What planet do you live on? New money is coming from the EU, but more to the point is what has the EU or US given Kosovo? I know NOTHING.

As I said, if they invest money on you, they will ensure you recognize Kosovo one way or another. And the EU can’t be status neutral when more than half of it has recognized. Any policy that favors Serbia has to have the okay of those who have recognized Kosovo, otherwise it won’t happen. Also percentage wise there’s much more money going to Kosovo than Serbia, even though it might seem less because of the population numbers being different. Either way you look at it Kosovo has the upper hand on Serbia.

You're wasting your time trying to persuade the Albanian crowd on how the EU creates money out of thin air and as a result throws few scraps at them.The big problems will start when the fat lady stops singing(printing)and it's being pencilled to happen before the end of the year.
(Leonidas, 23 May 2018 13:21)

I know, but it makes fools out of the Albos since hey think money comes out of thin air and yet they get nothing.

By the comment of fellow commenters here one may conclude that Balkans are not ready for EU for another 100 years, but they are ready for war tomorrow.

Are you aware that the EU is still printing money to kick start its economy?
(sj, 23 May 2018 09:33)

You're wasting your time trying to persuade the Albanian crowd on how the EU creates money out of thin air and as a result throws few scraps at them.The big problems will start when the fat lady stops singing(printing)and it's being pencilled to happen before the end of the year.

AFAIK, Jagodina has the closest railway station if you want to visit Manasija.
At the time we went to Manasija the place was called Svetozarevo.

Now it is Jagodina but we do not use railway anymore, it is in quite bad shape.

Car is more convenient.

AFAIK, Jagodina has the closest railway station if you want to visit Manasija.
At the time we went to Manasija the place was called Svetozarevo.

Now it is Jagodina but we do not use railway anymore, it is in quite bad shape.

Car is more convenient.
(Honcho, 25 May 2018 02:43) # Commen

To Honcho
It is been called Jagodina now for 25 years , so you visited over 25 years ago .
Their is a new train service,from Belgrade to Nis that Stops at Jagodina City .
The train services is newer and better then the Sydney or New York dirty, filthy services you get .
A lot has changed in Serbia in last 5 years ,let alone when it was called Svetozarevo 😁.
Since Svetozarevo , now Jagodina City has a new football Stadium (to UEFA standard), Zoo ,Aqua Water slides Park ,Fountain Park ,Wax Museaum and 2 new shopping centres )).
I get tired of reading people's thought and expression when they never been in the region or vidited 25 years ago when Yugoslavia))

@sasa

It sounds like you haven't been in New York City since Serbia was a monarchy. Serbia has some of the slowest and most disgusting trains around. The only nice trains are the ones recently donated by the Russians. But they still only travel at 25km per hour because the tracks haven't been repaired in years. Try riding the train around Serbia once or twice. Unless you can somehow patch together enough train services that have the new Russian rail cars, I promise you will never do it again.