"Huge obstacles on EU path - citizens to decide what to do"

In addition, he said that Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

You lost the war so what do you want

Serbia is already reaping more investments from the EU than some countries that are already members. Second, Serbia is a part of Europe and has natural economic ties like any other trading partners, it does not need an EU membership to attest to that. The EU is a sinking ship, it is only a question of time. How many other EU members had to forfeit territory for membership? The EU is a US made project in order to control that part of the world. Stay the course, China and Russia are the world's leading economic powers who respect our territorial integrity and provide aid on all fronts. Why would anyone in their right mind want to abandon its cradle of existence for a mirage. I say f**k the EU and look eastward!!!

"Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

So Kosovo Albanians won't get the Presevo valley and Serbia won't get Northern Kosovo. Both sides lose and everybody is going to be happy. Problems solved.

You lost the war so what do you want

Yea and you won the war with USA's U-235's and what don't you want ???

Take that frikin EU membership and blow it where the sun don't shine.

"The EU strategy opens up a window of hope and chances, and it is up to us to be accountable and to work harder. The economic situation is no longer as difficult, but it will be in 10 or 15 years if we do not solve political problems. And if we solve them, we will grow economically like a rocket," Vucic said.

--------


If you can't read between the lines above, then you will be forced to remain in Limbo with sj and other Serbs who can't face having lost Kosova. Your economy will remain stagnant and not surge like the rocket you see in your dreams. Time is running out, it is your children you must think of, so they won't be in the same unnecessary mess their parents have been in for the last thirty years. Come on Serbs, you can do it, bite the bullet.

You lost the war so what do you want
(Win/win, 7 February 2018 16:34)
--
It's a frozen conflict, nobody won the war, that's why negotiations are continuing and why the US cried to Russia for UNSCR1244.

You lost the war so what do you want

Yea and you won the war with USA's U-235's and what don't you want ???
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 7 February 2018 16:52

What a stupid remark. Would the Partizans have defeated the Nazis in Yugoslavia without any foreign help? Would Serbia be in a worse predicament without Russia help in the UN etc?

You Serbs act as if alliances and assistance from foreign powers has only occurred with the Kosovars when anyone with a brain knows that’s not the case. The only difference is that assistance from foreign countries helped to secure Kosovas independence! Serbia’s assistance and alliance with Russia ended up being useless because they didn’t help you!

Get some new friends and grow a pair of balls and stop crying about how Serbia was defeated. Your constant crying about NATO intervention is jealous behavior, if the tables were turned and Russia helped you in the same way and Serbia prevailed you Serbs would find that to be acceptable.

Long story short, Vucic is telling Serbs it’s not a question of if but when the desire to get back Kosova is over. Bye bye! A few more generations and Serbia won’t even be talked ny about Kosova anymore.

"For the first time I will not hide from citizens of Serbia," said the president, and continued: "In Sarajevo, we had ideas, the Bosniaks wanted something else. We accepted those ideas of theirs - then they said, 'we won't even do it the way we want to do it'. So, it's no good even doing what somebody asks you to do. As for the border with Croatia - it's best I don't comment at all." No way you were lying and hiding the truth from the little Serbian children I'm shocked not. They are really disappointed no free ice cream and candy's every week look at their eyes are tearing up. Vucic yore a continuous disappointment next you will tell them their is no Deda Mraz. Yes many sins and despicable crimes fascist Serbia instigated are coming to roost plop plop. You should change your country anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AodHdQ4O_U song to fit the unabashed reality.

This is all very promising for those of us who don't feel that joining the Eu is a good move. Next step, round up the migrants and push them back into the EU countries that they came from. After that, increase economic efforts with China and Russia... maybe the UK once they finally escaped the EU's clutches.

You lost the war so what do you want
(Win/win, 7 February 2018 16:34)

@ win/win - ahhh, how about roughly 18% of our country you've stolen?

Whether we've "lost" the "war",(more like aggression), remains to be seen...Remember, these are the Srbs you're dealing with...

the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

Kosovo Albanians have lost ten thousand people and their lives destroyed. Do you serbs want to have similar lose in order to be satisfied?

The only difference is that assistance from foreign countries helped to secure Kosovas independence! Serbia’s assistance and alliance with Russia ended up being useless because they didn’t help you!

@ USA stands ON albania- “helped to secure”, Lol, Lol ...You mean “helped to steal”....??
U can use all the nice language you want, K&M is stolen, occupied Serbian territory!!
This abortion project is coming to its climax... I know you Albs are trying to keep positive attitude, these are some trying times for you!
Here’s hoping everything works out for the best!

This is typical Vucic-talk. The EU basically gives Serbia a green light for admission in the next few years and all but takes away the obstacle of Kosovo and here Vucic gets all somber and serious in front of the cameras in some sort of attempt at convincing his audience the he and only he can navigate Serbia through the treacherous path towards EU membership. The EU has basically sidelined Kosovo as an issue to solve in the indeterminate future, and Vucic will basically take credit for carefully steering Serbia down an otherwise straight, wide, and paved road.

Sj

Romania and Bulgaria have one of the lowest life standards in Europe despite being Eu members. And your beloved serbia? Much worse. Cut the crap, you are not impressing anyone with that information. You have Indonesia or Vietnam which receive higher investments than serbia and both are poorer and less developed. And there are plenty of third world nations who enjoy more chinese investments and more chinese companies in their nation then you could even dream on in serbia.

Do you even know how modern economy works? Even if you join Eu, you will not become richer than Austria. Thats pathetic delusions

If you look at the map, you see that no transport from Southern Europe or Middle East can efficiently by-pass Serbia: there are only two bridges on the Danube between Romania and Bulgaria and even the newest (Vidin-Calafat) is inadequate.

So even from Greece, by-passing FYROM and Serbia is not feasible.

In addition to that, EU policy destroyed the railway cooperation between EU countries, both passenger and freight.

Most of the freight is on the road. If you drive in Germany, this is not the news, that than-famous Autobahn is completely inadequate for the volume of transport.

If I would be the president of Serbia I would play a bit more tough.

- Set up a 'Kosovo Fund' designed to help displaced persons from Kosovo.

- Privatize all the toll roads, they would not belong to the Serbian government.
They would belong to a private company from China, Russia, etc.

- The fund above would be 100% financed from freight transit fees

- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.

Of course, the goods are welcome to transit Serbia on the Pireus - Budapest railway (will be made by Chinese) or to / from Bar (owned bt RZD).

It looks like the cold shower is starting to wake up the Serbian government as to what is expected of it. Reality is starting to set in as to settling the Kosovo situation.
Now even BiH and Croatia are mentioned when it comes to border issues then throw in harmonizing foreign policy (Russia sanctions) and things are not looking that good for 2025.

"- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46) "

Within 24 hours all border crossings between Serbia and EU would be closed indefinitely making Serbia an inaccessible island. In a month time Serbia's economy would be totally ruined.

If I would be the president of Serbia I would play a bit more tough.


- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46)


Ataman,
If you, Ataman, try to get tough as president of Serbia you would be isolated like a rabid dog. All your personal funds would be put in escrow, your travel documents would not be recognized through out the EU and USA, and all of your family would be considered persona non grata. All those in your party of high position would receive the same treatment. Are you sure you want to f**k with EU.

- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46)
Gyorgy,
what about the foreigners who worked in different missions in Kosovo which were considered by majority of Serbs as Anti Serbian?

(Ataman, 8 February 2018 11:57)

I do not for a moment want to degrade Romania or Bulgaria, but I have been to both and the level of corruption is beyond belief.

As far as Victory 1999 is concerned, well if he is a Serb then that is very sad because he is one sick puppy, but Serbs have had turn coats before and survived. In fact, the Serbian Ambassador to Germany sided with the Germans at the start of WW1.

I do not for a moment want to degrade Romania or Bulgaria, but I have been to both and the level of corruption is beyond belief.
(sj, 8 February 2018 12:51)

They - and add Kosovo - are fine and dandy on the corruption front - once you look at FYROM. That one is a complete shame.

And Serbian police is an other nice institution.

Regardless, FYROM is the king of corruption.

----

As far as Victory 1999 is concerned, well if he is a Serb then that is very sad because he is one sick puppy, but Serbs have had turn coats before and survived. In fact, the Serbian Ambassador to Germany sided with the Germans at the start of WW1.
(sj, 8 February 2018 12:51)

There are quite strong indicators that Victory1999 = Avni = Lenard = Azir = .... = some Serb from either Canada or Belgrade or Novi Sad.

Much in recent days was said between Roger7 and myself.

If that's the case... one word: sramota.

Please notice how much is that guy (or maybe one or two more) addicted to attention. He is an attention and validation maniac. Do not know, who is posting under "Vushtrri" but it's the same thing. Either give them a stupid essay about donkeys or nothing.
The last will probably annoy them the most.

When a person have or think it's pride it's more important than anything else, than the time kicker kicks in and this it's going one for decades in Balkan that because your not able to see the true reality and Balkan it's with decades behind on everything from his western European country's and decades to come will stay AS IS..or will become worst..

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2018 19:57)

How many times do you have to be wrong to admit that you are not good at this game?????

Well if firms like Siemens, having purchased Milanovic Engineering in Kragujevac, will employ over 1,000 so if this is a stagnant economy then let it be stagnant.

There are two parts to these EU “obstacles” and it has nothing to do with Kosovo; that part is a rouse, Albanians are small fry. The first is Serbia’s close relations with Russia and how the US can turn that around. The second relates to having too many applicants for the EU. With the UK leaving, the EU funds are being depleting. The EU is still “printing” money to kick start the economy and the year 2025 comes into play because the EU is hoping the economy will improve.

Vucic is playing the game. He is preparing the people for a referendum. I know what the result will be, so the EU will fold like a cheap suit. The EU will cave in long before any referendum LOL.

If I can use the analogy Dracula fears the cross, just like the EU fears a referendum, while they lecture others about democratic values.

All vehicular movements carrying goods from east to west and reverse, must pass through Jagodina. Berlin to Istanbul across Serbia 3 days around it 7 days. First, it was the Chinese President and now the Japanese PM visiting – imagine little Serbia being visited by the No1 and No 3 world economies. Does this tell you something?

(Mark.W, 8 February 2018 05:21)

Which countries has Croatia settled its borders? Slovenia? That is still debatable; BiH? No; Serbia? No. So what the f*** are you talking about?

This all about another half-arsed attempt to bring Serbia under control. Watch the next announcement – Serbia does not have to fulfil the demands blah, blah.

I make a little prediction here. Nothing happens, and talks continue because if the EU pushes too hard Vucic takes it to a referendum and its bye bye EU.

Real simple solution to all this.

Let Serbs vote.

Should we recognize unilateral vote of independence of kosovo and let it go so Serbia can join EU?

1) YES! Let it go already We will all be together as one as part of the EU eventually anyway!
(Serbia drops all its claims, Serb path to EU continues and
Serbia keeps getting money from EU)

2) No! We cut off our nose to spite our face!
(Serbia immediately withdraws bid to join EU, EU money
immediately stops and Serbia implements all Serbia's
brilliant solutions for boiling the ocean and curing world
hunger it developed without needing to join the EU)

It's time to put up or shut up.

The EU has just called Serbia's bluff.

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2018 19:57)

How many times do you have to be wrong to admit that you are not good at this game?????

Well if firms like Siemens, have purchased Milanovic Engineering in Kragujevac, will employ over 1,000 so if this is a stagnant economy then let it be stagnant.

There are two parts to these EU “obstacles” and it has nothing to do with Kosovo; that part is a rouse. The first is Serbia’s close relations with Russia and how the US can turn that around. The second relates to having too many applicants for the EU. With the UK leaving, the EU funds are being depleting. The EU is still “printing” money to kick start the economy and the year 2025 comes into play because the EU is hoping the economy will improve.

Vucic is playing the game. He is preparing the people for a referendum. I know what the result will be, so the EU will fold like a cheap suit. The EU will cave in long before any referendum LOL.

If I can use the analogy Dracula fears the cross, just like the EU fears a referendum, while they lecture others about democratic values.

All vehicular movements carrying good from east to west and reverse, must pass through Jagodina. Berlin to Istanbul across Serbia 3 days around it 7 days. First the Chinese President and now the Japanese PM visiting – imagine little Serbia being visited by the No1 and No 3 world economies. Does this tell you something?

(Victory1999, 8 February 2018 10:15)

Taking out of one’s backside is a normal mantra for you Albos. I have been to both Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia and I know the difference. I’d rather live in Serbia.

If Serbia was in South East Asia I would compare it to Indonesia and Vietnam but its in Europe and so far, the largest investment of Chinese money is in Serbia.
I know since I work for a Chinese commercial bank. I know just what they think of Serbia and their future plans there. The Chinses President, leader of the No1 world economy – sorry not US, but China – spends 3 days in a small place like Serbia, that means something.

Investment is what improves the standard of living in a country – they may not teach that in Albo economic books.

I hate to disappoint you but the level of investment in Serbia is phenomenal. If you like I can post some of the companies which have opened for business. Perhaps you can tell me who has invested in Kosova or even better Croatia in the last 10 years?

If Serbia manages to reach the same level as Austria then it’s fantastic, but I only wanted to point out why the EU’s demands are going to vanish into thin air just like they have in the past.

I can travel from Istanbul to Italy and not travers Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia or Croatia, but I can’t travel to Istanbul without going through Serbia. Think about it mate. Think hard.

(Victory1999, 8 February 2018 10:15)

Taking out of one’s backside is a normal mantra for you Albos. I have been to both Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia and I know the difference. I’d rather live in Serbia.
(sj, 8 February 2018 11:18)

SJ,

I agree with you regarding Romania and Bulgaria. I think, most of Romanians and Bulgarians would do the same.

But what would you do if it would turn out, Victory1999 has nothing to do with Kosovo or Albania because he is, say, a Serb from Canada?

And is here only to satisfy his sick brain.

The answers to the road toll were not only incorrect but lacking the much-promoted "European values".
Who wrote them has pretty much no idea how they do work or not.

Looks for me, the same person wrote both.

Posting the writing at 05:32 AM - probably very oddball working hours in E.U., eh?

That's evening in the snowy Canada, by the way.

>>> In addition, he said that Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

This may be a bit off topic, but that behemoth cruise ship pulling into Dubrovnik is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. Who goes there? Rick Steves looking for a cheap meal?

You lost the war so what do you want

Yea and you won the war with USA's U-235's and what don't you want ???
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 7 February 2018 16:52

What a stupid remark. Would the Partizans have defeated the Nazis in Yugoslavia without any foreign help? Would Serbia be in a worse predicament without Russia help in the UN etc?

You Serbs act as if alliances and assistance from foreign powers has only occurred with the Kosovars when anyone with a brain knows that’s not the case. The only difference is that assistance from foreign countries helped to secure Kosovas independence! Serbia’s assistance and alliance with Russia ended up being useless because they didn’t help you!

Get some new friends and grow a pair of balls and stop crying about how Serbia was defeated. Your constant crying about NATO intervention is jealous behavior, if the tables were turned and Russia helped you in the same way and Serbia prevailed you Serbs would find that to be acceptable.

Long story short, Vucic is telling Serbs it’s not a question of if but when the desire to get back Kosova is over. Bye bye! A few more generations and Serbia won’t even be talked ny about Kosova anymore.

In addition, he said that Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

You lost the war so what do you want

"The EU strategy opens up a window of hope and chances, and it is up to us to be accountable and to work harder. The economic situation is no longer as difficult, but it will be in 10 or 15 years if we do not solve political problems. And if we solve them, we will grow economically like a rocket," Vucic said.

--------


If you can't read between the lines above, then you will be forced to remain in Limbo with sj and other Serbs who can't face having lost Kosova. Your economy will remain stagnant and not surge like the rocket you see in your dreams. Time is running out, it is your children you must think of, so they won't be in the same unnecessary mess their parents have been in for the last thirty years. Come on Serbs, you can do it, bite the bullet.

You lost the war so what do you want
(Win/win, 7 February 2018 16:34)
--
It's a frozen conflict, nobody won the war, that's why negotiations are continuing and why the US cried to Russia for UNSCR1244.

Serbia is already reaping more investments from the EU than some countries that are already members. Second, Serbia is a part of Europe and has natural economic ties like any other trading partners, it does not need an EU membership to attest to that. The EU is a sinking ship, it is only a question of time. How many other EU members had to forfeit territory for membership? The EU is a US made project in order to control that part of the world. Stay the course, China and Russia are the world's leading economic powers who respect our territorial integrity and provide aid on all fronts. Why would anyone in their right mind want to abandon its cradle of existence for a mirage. I say f**k the EU and look eastward!!!

Take that frikin EU membership and blow it where the sun don't shine.

You lost the war so what do you want
(Win/win, 7 February 2018 16:34)

@ win/win - ahhh, how about roughly 18% of our country you've stolen?

Whether we've "lost" the "war",(more like aggression), remains to be seen...Remember, these are the Srbs you're dealing with...

"For the first time I will not hide from citizens of Serbia," said the president, and continued: "In Sarajevo, we had ideas, the Bosniaks wanted something else. We accepted those ideas of theirs - then they said, 'we won't even do it the way we want to do it'. So, it's no good even doing what somebody asks you to do. As for the border with Croatia - it's best I don't comment at all." No way you were lying and hiding the truth from the little Serbian children I'm shocked not. They are really disappointed no free ice cream and candy's every week look at their eyes are tearing up. Vucic yore a continuous disappointment next you will tell them their is no Deda Mraz. Yes many sins and despicable crimes fascist Serbia instigated are coming to roost plop plop. You should change your country anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AodHdQ4O_U song to fit the unabashed reality.

"Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

So Kosovo Albanians won't get the Presevo valley and Serbia won't get Northern Kosovo. Both sides lose and everybody is going to be happy. Problems solved.

You lost the war so what do you want

Yea and you won the war with USA's U-235's and what don't you want ???

This is all very promising for those of us who don't feel that joining the Eu is a good move. Next step, round up the migrants and push them back into the EU countries that they came from. After that, increase economic efforts with China and Russia... maybe the UK once they finally escaped the EU's clutches.

This is typical Vucic-talk. The EU basically gives Serbia a green light for admission in the next few years and all but takes away the obstacle of Kosovo and here Vucic gets all somber and serious in front of the cameras in some sort of attempt at convincing his audience the he and only he can navigate Serbia through the treacherous path towards EU membership. The EU has basically sidelined Kosovo as an issue to solve in the indeterminate future, and Vucic will basically take credit for carefully steering Serbia down an otherwise straight, wide, and paved road.

The only difference is that assistance from foreign countries helped to secure Kosovas independence! Serbia’s assistance and alliance with Russia ended up being useless because they didn’t help you!

@ USA stands ON albania- “helped to secure”, Lol, Lol ...You mean “helped to steal”....??
U can use all the nice language you want, K&M is stolen, occupied Serbian territory!!
This abortion project is coming to its climax... I know you Albs are trying to keep positive attitude, these are some trying times for you!
Here’s hoping everything works out for the best!

the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

Kosovo Albanians have lost ten thousand people and their lives destroyed. Do you serbs want to have similar lose in order to be satisfied?

If you look at the map, you see that no transport from Southern Europe or Middle East can efficiently by-pass Serbia: there are only two bridges on the Danube between Romania and Bulgaria and even the newest (Vidin-Calafat) is inadequate.

So even from Greece, by-passing FYROM and Serbia is not feasible.

In addition to that, EU policy destroyed the railway cooperation between EU countries, both passenger and freight.

Most of the freight is on the road. If you drive in Germany, this is not the news, that than-famous Autobahn is completely inadequate for the volume of transport.

If I would be the president of Serbia I would play a bit more tough.

- Set up a 'Kosovo Fund' designed to help displaced persons from Kosovo.

- Privatize all the toll roads, they would not belong to the Serbian government.
They would belong to a private company from China, Russia, etc.

- The fund above would be 100% financed from freight transit fees

- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.

Of course, the goods are welcome to transit Serbia on the Pireus - Budapest railway (will be made by Chinese) or to / from Bar (owned bt RZD).

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2018 19:57)

How many times do you have to be wrong to admit that you are not good at this game?????

Well if firms like Siemens, having purchased Milanovic Engineering in Kragujevac, will employ over 1,000 so if this is a stagnant economy then let it be stagnant.

There are two parts to these EU “obstacles” and it has nothing to do with Kosovo; that part is a rouse, Albanians are small fry. The first is Serbia’s close relations with Russia and how the US can turn that around. The second relates to having too many applicants for the EU. With the UK leaving, the EU funds are being depleting. The EU is still “printing” money to kick start the economy and the year 2025 comes into play because the EU is hoping the economy will improve.

Vucic is playing the game. He is preparing the people for a referendum. I know what the result will be, so the EU will fold like a cheap suit. The EU will cave in long before any referendum LOL.

If I can use the analogy Dracula fears the cross, just like the EU fears a referendum, while they lecture others about democratic values.

All vehicular movements carrying goods from east to west and reverse, must pass through Jagodina. Berlin to Istanbul across Serbia 3 days around it 7 days. First, it was the Chinese President and now the Japanese PM visiting – imagine little Serbia being visited by the No1 and No 3 world economies. Does this tell you something?

(The Count of Kosova, 7 February 2018 19:57)

How many times do you have to be wrong to admit that you are not good at this game?????

Well if firms like Siemens, have purchased Milanovic Engineering in Kragujevac, will employ over 1,000 so if this is a stagnant economy then let it be stagnant.

There are two parts to these EU “obstacles” and it has nothing to do with Kosovo; that part is a rouse. The first is Serbia’s close relations with Russia and how the US can turn that around. The second relates to having too many applicants for the EU. With the UK leaving, the EU funds are being depleting. The EU is still “printing” money to kick start the economy and the year 2025 comes into play because the EU is hoping the economy will improve.

Vucic is playing the game. He is preparing the people for a referendum. I know what the result will be, so the EU will fold like a cheap suit. The EU will cave in long before any referendum LOL.

If I can use the analogy Dracula fears the cross, just like the EU fears a referendum, while they lecture others about democratic values.

All vehicular movements carrying good from east to west and reverse, must pass through Jagodina. Berlin to Istanbul across Serbia 3 days around it 7 days. First the Chinese President and now the Japanese PM visiting – imagine little Serbia being visited by the No1 and No 3 world economies. Does this tell you something?

I do not for a moment want to degrade Romania or Bulgaria, but I have been to both and the level of corruption is beyond belief.
(sj, 8 February 2018 12:51)

They - and add Kosovo - are fine and dandy on the corruption front - once you look at FYROM. That one is a complete shame.

And Serbian police is an other nice institution.

Regardless, FYROM is the king of corruption.

----

As far as Victory 1999 is concerned, well if he is a Serb then that is very sad because he is one sick puppy, but Serbs have had turn coats before and survived. In fact, the Serbian Ambassador to Germany sided with the Germans at the start of WW1.
(sj, 8 February 2018 12:51)

There are quite strong indicators that Victory1999 = Avni = Lenard = Azir = .... = some Serb from either Canada or Belgrade or Novi Sad.

Much in recent days was said between Roger7 and myself.

If that's the case... one word: sramota.

Please notice how much is that guy (or maybe one or two more) addicted to attention. He is an attention and validation maniac. Do not know, who is posting under "Vushtrri" but it's the same thing. Either give them a stupid essay about donkeys or nothing.
The last will probably annoy them the most.

When a person have or think it's pride it's more important than anything else, than the time kicker kicks in and this it's going one for decades in Balkan that because your not able to see the true reality and Balkan it's with decades behind on everything from his western European country's and decades to come will stay AS IS..or will become worst..

(Victory1999, 8 February 2018 10:15)

Taking out of one’s backside is a normal mantra for you Albos. I have been to both Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia and I know the difference. I’d rather live in Serbia.

If Serbia was in South East Asia I would compare it to Indonesia and Vietnam but its in Europe and so far, the largest investment of Chinese money is in Serbia.
I know since I work for a Chinese commercial bank. I know just what they think of Serbia and their future plans there. The Chinses President, leader of the No1 world economy – sorry not US, but China – spends 3 days in a small place like Serbia, that means something.

Investment is what improves the standard of living in a country – they may not teach that in Albo economic books.

I hate to disappoint you but the level of investment in Serbia is phenomenal. If you like I can post some of the companies which have opened for business. Perhaps you can tell me who has invested in Kosova or even better Croatia in the last 10 years?

If Serbia manages to reach the same level as Austria then it’s fantastic, but I only wanted to point out why the EU’s demands are going to vanish into thin air just like they have in the past.

I can travel from Istanbul to Italy and not travers Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia or Croatia, but I can’t travel to Istanbul without going through Serbia. Think about it mate. Think hard.

(Ataman, 8 February 2018 11:57)

I do not for a moment want to degrade Romania or Bulgaria, but I have been to both and the level of corruption is beyond belief.

As far as Victory 1999 is concerned, well if he is a Serb then that is very sad because he is one sick puppy, but Serbs have had turn coats before and survived. In fact, the Serbian Ambassador to Germany sided with the Germans at the start of WW1.

Sj

Romania and Bulgaria have one of the lowest life standards in Europe despite being Eu members. And your beloved serbia? Much worse. Cut the crap, you are not impressing anyone with that information. You have Indonesia or Vietnam which receive higher investments than serbia and both are poorer and less developed. And there are plenty of third world nations who enjoy more chinese investments and more chinese companies in their nation then you could even dream on in serbia.

Do you even know how modern economy works? Even if you join Eu, you will not become richer than Austria. Thats pathetic delusions

(Mark.W, 8 February 2018 05:21)

Which countries has Croatia settled its borders? Slovenia? That is still debatable; BiH? No; Serbia? No. So what the f*** are you talking about?

This all about another half-arsed attempt to bring Serbia under control. Watch the next announcement – Serbia does not have to fulfil the demands blah, blah.

I make a little prediction here. Nothing happens, and talks continue because if the EU pushes too hard Vucic takes it to a referendum and its bye bye EU.

>>> In addition, he said that Serbia "cannot lose everything, while someone else gets everything" - but that instead the solution must be the result of a compromise "where both sides lose, in order to be satisfied."

If I would be the president of Serbia I would play a bit more tough.


- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46)


Ataman,
If you, Ataman, try to get tough as president of Serbia you would be isolated like a rabid dog. All your personal funds would be put in escrow, your travel documents would not be recognized through out the EU and USA, and all of your family would be considered persona non grata. All those in your party of high position would receive the same treatment. Are you sure you want to f**k with EU.

(Victory1999, 8 February 2018 10:15)

Taking out of one’s backside is a normal mantra for you Albos. I have been to both Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia and I know the difference. I’d rather live in Serbia.
(sj, 8 February 2018 11:18)

SJ,

I agree with you regarding Romania and Bulgaria. I think, most of Romanians and Bulgarians would do the same.

But what would you do if it would turn out, Victory1999 has nothing to do with Kosovo or Albania because he is, say, a Serb from Canada?

And is here only to satisfy his sick brain.

"- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
It will be never official why is that, there would be merely a country list. Which would "by coincidence" match the list.

Any complain from EU?

'Sorry, not our road, talk to the owner'.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46) "

Within 24 hours all border crossings between Serbia and EU would be closed indefinitely making Serbia an inaccessible island. In a month time Serbia's economy would be totally ruined.

The answers to the road toll were not only incorrect but lacking the much-promoted "European values".
Who wrote them has pretty much no idea how they do work or not.

Looks for me, the same person wrote both.

Posting the writing at 05:32 AM - probably very oddball working hours in E.U., eh?

That's evening in the snowy Canada, by the way.

It looks like the cold shower is starting to wake up the Serbian government as to what is expected of it. Reality is starting to set in as to settling the Kosovo situation.
Now even BiH and Croatia are mentioned when it comes to border issues then throw in harmonizing foreign policy (Russia sanctions) and things are not looking that good for 2025.

This may be a bit off topic, but that behemoth cruise ship pulling into Dubrovnik is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. Who goes there? Rick Steves looking for a cheap meal?

Real simple solution to all this.

Let Serbs vote.

Should we recognize unilateral vote of independence of kosovo and let it go so Serbia can join EU?

1) YES! Let it go already We will all be together as one as part of the EU eventually anyway!
(Serbia drops all its claims, Serb path to EU continues and
Serbia keeps getting money from EU)

2) No! We cut off our nose to spite our face!
(Serbia immediately withdraws bid to join EU, EU money
immediately stops and Serbia implements all Serbia's
brilliant solutions for boiling the ocean and curing world
hunger it developed without needing to join the EU)

It's time to put up or shut up.

The EU has just called Serbia's bluff.

- The vehicles registered in countries which recognized Kosovo or owned by companies registered in such countries would pay a prohibitively expensive road toll.
(Ataman, 8 February 2018 01:46)
Gyorgy,
what about the foreigners who worked in different missions in Kosovo which were considered by majority of Serbs as Anti Serbian?