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Tuesday, 06.02.2018.

10:20

"Athens could recognize Kosovo if Washington asks"

Athens could recognize Kosovo, if requested by Washington - for several reasons, <a href="https://rs.sputniknews.com/regioni/201802051114441128-grcka-kosovo-makedonija-priznanje-amerika-ucena-pare/" class="text-link" target= "_blank">Sputnik is reporting</a>.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues
(Leonidas, 11 February 2018 20:24)

Which are those "certain issues", dear?!

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

icj1 aka Reader aka EU Citizen aka Sam

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues you don't understand and I recommended you continue doing your
colouring books.Who's paying you to keep repeating your self?

icj1

pre 6 godina

The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 17:39)

That's exactly why the Greek position is "BS" lol

BLACK EAGLE

pre 6 godina

"Athens could recognize Kosovo if Washington asks"

No. They are a country in enormous debt. They are desperate to gain as much as they can from anything possible.

They accepted the offer for Çameria (Epirus+Peloponnese+Western Greece), so they are easy to work with.

As far as Kosovo recognition, Kosovo government is not interested in recognition from Greece. They need to talk to Greece about it and offer something, but they are just too lazy. Serbia is not offering anything to keep Greece from not recognising Kosovo, so anything Kosovo offers I think would work. Example, the new power plant of 1.6 billion Euro should have been given to Greece because they have been running the same type of powerplant and they are EU compliant. They could use excess power for themselves for free because they need more power. Also Greek intellectuals would prevent building a nuclear power plant because they passed a law about nuclear radiation in controlled environments, but they have no emergency infrastructure in case of small crack or other nuclear disasters.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Ataman

It's not easy for this site to device and police a registration process which can easily be abused again by creating new IDs.The problem lies with us the participants who join the forum in order to put our views across and learn from each other in the process.Unfortunately ,the current situation is not going to change and the trolls will continue to inhibit any real discussion.Bear in mind that the actual posters behind the trolls are few.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

I would beat my chest about savings, not consumption.
On that area Romania is quite bad - with little chance to improve.

As for A. - let's close one eye for now. Compared with the resident Count of Kanada he is still dandy. Of course I could be wrong and he could turn into an other creation of the same person.

One way or an other, B92 needs to set up at least a half-working authentication and registration process otherwise simply the forum-dwellers won't trust even obvious.

For me the deal-breaker is when someone uses names of known fascist or nazi personalities without inhibition.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
Ataman,
I am not convinced and I will give you my reasons The two paragraphs below are from an earlier posting that adrian sent to this site and you can compare their composition and tell me whether they’re written by the same person.

but today we got the info that consumption had grown 7% more than november and 13% more than same month 2016 [link] . Nobody expected this because the gdp was at +8,8% quater 3 vs quater 3 2016 and +6,9% whole year and it was considered by all experts that it will slow down or stagnate’

He say West predictions + news from Romanian media all of them are fake and then come the reality

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Leonidas,

"Rom" - here I mean an ethnic minority within Romania, otherwise called "Gypsy".
Adrian is Rom(a), according him.
That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
The over-all society status of them is still low in Romania. Many - like as I assume Adrian - try to over-compensate. Typically you will not dare to walk in into their kitchen (only bare-feet!) and their cars shine like moon... even if all the others are dirty this time of year.

If nothing else, such efforts have to be appreciated.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Attaman

I've never had a problem with Romanians but Adrian -i doubt if that's his real name- sometimes he makes some sweeping statements on various topics without having either the evidence or background to back it up.
I wish as well to all Romanians a happier future.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 10:28)

Leonidas,

I have a lot respect for Adrian because of his background. 100 years ago his kin was illiterate slave in Romania, the lowest of the low.

Today he speaks decent English, has decent computers and intent to improve even further.

His views are sometimes naive, but if you pay attention to his postings - most are questions.

There is no stupid question, only stupid answers.

If he sees his personal fortunes improve and take over Serbia or Croatia - very good, I wish all Roms who are hard-working and honest to take over Switzerland, that would be the end of the Rom problem.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam
I did talk about Fyrom not Macedonia because it is part of Greece.
What you consider “BS” only reveals that you have little insight into historical volatility of the Balkans ,where “BS” issues like usurping a neighbour’s histiric name and cultural symbols and disseminating maps showing Macedonia in reece as part of “greater” FYROM tend to incite bloody conflict.
What is really “BS” is Fyrom’s attempts in the last 20 and so years to claim ethnic connection to people 2500 years ago and naming a country after a name that they have no historical connection,Given the historical fact that their ancestors arrived 1000 years after the demise of Macedonia and not living within the boundaries of what was considered ancient Macedonia.
The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

But you did talk about Macedonia and in a rude and abrasive way too
humility or just skip over it I guess you pick the later
Macedonians have been putting up with that BS from Greeks for over a decade

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

I think, the bombing was the national shame. If your story is correct - the Albanian Green Party did it right.

I remember the entire bombing. At first even many from the former SU were happy, people expected Milosevic going away within hours. It was very naive.

He just became stronger. And the entire thing turned out to be much different than how it was sold world-wide to the public.

I understand, you probably regard this case as a "win". It is not - it damaged the already difficult Serbian-Albanian relationship for many decades.

In addition to that the "West" behaved pretty much like with Warsaw Pact dissolution: they used all agreements to their advantage.

So they got Putin as the punishment for that. Would be the story with Warsaw Pact and YU handled fair, Putin would be nowhere as he was a nobody, merely an insignificant guy of the Sobchak mafia. The "West" made him the one he is and the U.S. military complex is the single winner.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)
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How is Serbia not a democracy? They are putting up with haters like Kandic. She is allowed to say whatever she wants against Serbia and she's still in the same position.
Now that's democracy. So what do you see in Serbia to have that opinion? You can't make a statement like that and not back it up with something.
Hit and run statements don't make a point.

Sam

pre 6 godina

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

Offcourse I have
why mention Macedonia in the same post..... I mean do I have to copy and paste it for you?
just saying

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Mildred Greens I wouldnt loose my sleep over serbia's democracy as long as they have Kandic Dwight Bob and tons of brave journalists.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)

@ mildew aj- so Serbia won’t be allowed to join EU because they find it hard to accept that there is democracy in Albania ?
Are u THAT stupid or did you really mean something else in your post?

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Leonidas
are you felling alone not heard
this article has absolutely nothing to do with Greek-Macedonian relations
(Sam,

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.
(sj, 7 February 2018 09:40)


sj,
Surely you must see the hole in your argument, if not I will have a five year old explain it to you.

sj

pre 6 godina

For those that think the US has might and thus NATO is strong. This information is the latest on the US military. Everyone else in NATO hangs off the US.

The current US military force is too small, not ready and equipment too old for any large-scale or prolonged fight. On paper, the US has 50 Army brigades or 10 US divisions, but only 3 brigades (15,000 soldiers) are combat ready, and one is now in the Baltics. The US Navy has 278, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force requires 1,200 fighter aircraft, but has only 923 and most equipment is old and cannibalization of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practice. It's short of 1,000 pilots and 3,000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is said to be at historic lows.

For decades the US has enjoyed "uncontested or dominant superiority in every operating domain", but today air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace are all being contested”.

The US is also losing its technological edge to countries like China and Russia - a key aspect of its military power since the end of the Cold War.
How can this problem be resolved? Defence planning must take a long-term perspective, adopting a three-theatre force construct, increasing military numbers, introducing new weapons urgently and increasing and sustaining defence budgets.

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.

ari

pre 6 godina

One thing must all Ballkan countries understand if they want to prosper they need to get along .No more wars maybe for 100 years that means no more new borders. All countries will be part of EU empire that will last for 1000 years and you will soon see Russia will be in EU also maybe China 200 years for now. To my brother Serbs think how long Putin will live maybe 20 years then Russia will be part of EU. So Greeks understand if they want to improve their economy they have to do bussiness in the region we Ballkan people can't sell our inferior products to western EU or the world the only market for us is Ballkans that is the risons smart Turks are coming back to Ballkans . So Greeks realize that 50 million costumers in Ballkans can only be reached through mutual respekt and recognition. They just made a deal with Albania,Maqedonia,tommorrow Kosova,this about 8 million people. Serbia can do the same with Albanian recognise Kosova make peace and have prosperity 6 million costumers in it doorstep.

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.

Sam

pre 6 godina

america is done

The Americian Govt is just the other side of the same coin
Russia and China are on the other end and those two Countries you see coming up isnt as attractive as you think it is either

icj1

pre 6 godina

so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No.
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 17:57)

I'm glad that you finally realised that the answer to that question is "No". Welcome back to reality, dear!

icj1

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...
(america is done, 6 February 2018 22:01)

That's a wonderful parallel universe that you've build, dear. As long as you are happy with it, I'm happy that you are happy :)

Sam

pre 6 godina

Ari,
Serbia and Greece dont have a common border anymore got it
Macedonia is an Sovereign state respect that
Serbia and Macedonia have good relations and Serbs and Macedonians are good to each other
regardless of what some here think

america is done

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...

mark

pre 6 godina

" He pointed out that "one of Trump's priorities is to strengthen America in the Balkans and push Russia back" - "so it is certain that NATO will go into that role."

HA HA HA. Push Russia back? Trump is Putin's b.tch.

Shiptar EggHead

pre 6 godina

Serbia has problems with Kosovo Albo Egg Heads, Macedonia has problem with Greece AND Albo Egg Heads get the connection? Enough Said!!

Avni

pre 6 godina

Greeks are finding out that supporting Serbs is bring them nothing good. They saw Erdogan few days ago in Serbia and asking themselves WTH?!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To : Adrian_Bucharest

Please look at the map and see how Srbija is positioned, we Serb's in the path of Hell surrounded by hate ! Who has kept for centuries the Roman Catholic Empire including Romania from the invasion of Islam ? Lets trade, all Serb's move to Romania and all Romanian people move to Srbija, think about that ? Regarding Greece people being lazy, well I have lived and worked side by side with Greek people and I can tell you most sincerely that they are very very very hard working honest people ! I can also tell you that I have worked side by side with Romanian people and they also are very very very hard working honest people ! I have worked with Albo's and they are very very very hard working honest people ! So that is why I tell you all with my comments here on B92 we from the Balkans need to stop hating and fighting each other, better we unite all against Satan our real enemy !!!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!
(Azir, 6 February 2018 17:05)

@ azire budalo "danilo" - Still too much stress in your posts! Have you tried masturbating as I suggested? If you have, maybe bump it up to twice a day or so...still way too much stress in your posts!

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

They took the Kosovo of Serbia , they not took the Transyvania of Romania

so why is better to be Serbian than Romanian ?

that is someting i don`t understand

+ Serbia stayed 500 years under Ottomans not Romania

Why is bad to be from Romania ? and from Serbia good or from Croatia who killed people as nazi people .

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

(Nikola Jovanovic, 6 February 2018 12:31)

(Kosovo_Polje1389, 6 February 2018 13:47)

I'll never understand why Albanian trolls seem to often portray themselves as Serbs to give their comments more credibility. The Ustasha on here do this as well. Pose both as Serbs and impartial foreigners. Sad!

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).
(icj1, 6 February 2018 15:30)

LOL ya, so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No. The deep state and Trump are fighting for influence in every sphere of America's operations. Trump cares about America First, the deep state cares about empire first. I and millions of other Americans hope Trumps vision wins out!

MACEDONIA IS GREECE!

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!

iron knee

pre 6 godina

@Third time is the charm

counting on what exactly?

#1:July 28, 1914 Serbia attacked by German forces because a bosnian killed an austrian
#2:April 6 1941 Serbia attacked by German forces, as Serbia was last remaining Yugoslav nation to not join the Nazi
#3:March 24 1999 Serbia attacked by western world's fullest might in order to create a mass exeduous from serbia's southern province (yes the under 2 million civilians started leaving after NATO started attacking) to justify a know false-flag incident.

You've certainly lived a charmed life. can't say much for you counting abilities, but charmed, I'm sure.

well, as it stands, your third trick has happened. you got what you wanted, but the white city stands tall. and you're all out of tricks.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.
(Navi,

I don't know how many years you've been visiting this site but if you go back to 2008 and the subsequent years you'll see hundreds of articles appearing on this site making similar claims and we know what happened.Kosovo will never be recognized by Greece no matter what the so-called experts are saying.

Navi

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Reading the posts of the smug little 5th formers like Adrian from Bucharest , who are commenting on here , presumably one of Romania’s greatest brains, one can see that Romania is producing slogan-chanting children or fantasists who have not got a clue of what is happening in the real world.This why he claims that Fyrom has the right to choose any name they want. Since you claim that is the case what about if I propose that Fyrom is renamed either to Republic of California or the Republic of Bavaria.Do you think that Fyrom would’ve been allowed to choose either name?
As to Greeks being lazy this is what the German news media mandra throws down the throats of the brainwashed EU citizens.All recent EU studies have shown that Greeks actually work the longest hours in EU.As a Romanian Adrian you should be grateful to Greek business for creating thousands of jobs in Romania.Bear In mind that Greece is the 3rd largest investor in Romania and also owns 25% of the banking sector.
BTW The article is about recognition of Kosovo

icj1

pre 6 godina

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).

Third time is the charm

pre 6 godina

skepticism, 6 February 2018 14:42)

Third time‘s the charm
#1. April 1941 WWI belgrade bombing
#2. 1999 NATO coalition serbia bombed
#3. It’s the charm belgrad out of the map

skepticism

pre 6 godina

@Kosovo_Polje

You are ridiculing yourself by saying that Greeks were slaves. Haven't you ever read a book in your life?

Greeks have not and will never recognise monkey kosovo. And will always use albanos like you to clean their toilets

I understand the jealousy of romanians and albanos, i would also be ashamed if i was albano or romanian

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold, 6 February 2018

Don’t just apologize to the Greeks , you should apologize to all your neighbors .
Just take a look at the history every trouble in the Balkans involves serbs .

skepticism

pre 6 godina

Dear Adrian in Bucharest

It is ok that you dont like Greeks. May I remind you that you are...Romanian. Which means that you have nothing to be proud of. Quite the opposite

In any case..thank you for your miserable and out of space comment

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 6 godina

Greece already recognises Kosovo, they recognise their passports and have voted for them when applying for various International organisations.

Greece has always been a slave to external powers. Their first king was a Bavarian, they refused to support Russia during the Crimean War and also, was very close to supporting Germany during WW1.

Greece has always said yes to everything their slave master asks for. What has this brought them you asked: Hal their terrory taken by the Turks, a corrupt and bankfrupt nation, a nation filled with illegal immigrants and poor relations with their neighbours. Thne EU path for Greece is filled with despair and horror, yet they are proud of being "Europeans" Yiasouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Mendo

pre 6 godina

@Ari Gold,

You as a Serb should not feel deeply ashemed or sorry just for a name recognition from Serbia. What you should be ashemed and deeply sorry is how your Serbian people killed thousands and thousands innocent people including children, woman and elderly.

I think Serbia did the right thing when they recognid Macedonia the way they did. Next Greece should recognise Kosovo and so we in the Balkans we move one step by step.

Nikola Jovanovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Serbia did the right thing by recognizing FYROM as Republic of Macedonia. My dear never trust Greeks.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Screw the lazy Greek people

Macedonia have the right to be called as they want to be called

nobody give a shit on what want the Greek people

i never liked the Greeks + they are against Americans they are weird

when Usa visited Greece they attacked Usa officials creating chaos on streets i mean they fought with police and look now what happened to them year by year recension ! 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 with a little good luck 2018 to

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

This is so hypothetical. First, the basis of this theory is based on a.) Greece is lobbying to recieve economic aid from the U.S. and b.) This assistance would be contigent on recognizing fake state of "Kosovo*".

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question, but that also seems unlikely for the above reasons.

Only thing this, if Greece were to do this, I would not hold it against them. Greece stood with Serbia in the 90s. Its govt broke NATO policy and refused to commit aggression on Serbia, leaked secret NATO military tactics, Greek humanitatian groups would often bring aid to the most heavily bombed areas, hundreds of Greeks fought for the Serb resistance in Bosnia.

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

To the Greeks: I am so deeply sorry. As a Serb, you have no idea how ashamed I feel about the way Belgrade has treated you.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Read the article, Sputnik is just quoting the personal opinion of Dusan Janjic without any strong arguments, just speculation. Must be a slow news day.

skepticism

pre 6 godina

A ok since sputnik says so then this is probably the truth

Sputnik is a main propaganda tool of Russia. The role os sputnik is to publish lies and whatever stupidity makes uneducated idiots perceive what they read on the internet as "truth"

Since when each piece of junk published on sputnik is "news"?

Check your sources if you still wish to be called NEWS agency

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Reading the posts of the smug little 5th formers like Adrian from Bucharest , who are commenting on here , presumably one of Romania’s greatest brains, one can see that Romania is producing slogan-chanting children or fantasists who have not got a clue of what is happening in the real world.This why he claims that Fyrom has the right to choose any name they want. Since you claim that is the case what about if I propose that Fyrom is renamed either to Republic of California or the Republic of Bavaria.Do you think that Fyrom would’ve been allowed to choose either name?
As to Greeks being lazy this is what the German news media mandra throws down the throats of the brainwashed EU citizens.All recent EU studies have shown that Greeks actually work the longest hours in EU.As a Romanian Adrian you should be grateful to Greek business for creating thousands of jobs in Romania.Bear In mind that Greece is the 3rd largest investor in Romania and also owns 25% of the banking sector.
BTW The article is about recognition of Kosovo

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

This is so hypothetical. First, the basis of this theory is based on a.) Greece is lobbying to recieve economic aid from the U.S. and b.) This assistance would be contigent on recognizing fake state of "Kosovo*".

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question, but that also seems unlikely for the above reasons.

Only thing this, if Greece were to do this, I would not hold it against them. Greece stood with Serbia in the 90s. Its govt broke NATO policy and refused to commit aggression on Serbia, leaked secret NATO military tactics, Greek humanitatian groups would often bring aid to the most heavily bombed areas, hundreds of Greeks fought for the Serb resistance in Bosnia.

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

To the Greeks: I am so deeply sorry. As a Serb, you have no idea how ashamed I feel about the way Belgrade has treated you.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.
(Navi,

I don't know how many years you've been visiting this site but if you go back to 2008 and the subsequent years you'll see hundreds of articles appearing on this site making similar claims and we know what happened.Kosovo will never be recognized by Greece no matter what the so-called experts are saying.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold, 6 February 2018

Don’t just apologize to the Greeks , you should apologize to all your neighbors .
Just take a look at the history every trouble in the Balkans involves serbs .

Nikola Jovanovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Serbia did the right thing by recognizing FYROM as Republic of Macedonia. My dear never trust Greeks.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Screw the lazy Greek people

Macedonia have the right to be called as they want to be called

nobody give a shit on what want the Greek people

i never liked the Greeks + they are against Americans they are weird

when Usa visited Greece they attacked Usa officials creating chaos on streets i mean they fought with police and look now what happened to them year by year recension ! 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 with a little good luck 2018 to

skepticism

pre 6 godina

@Kosovo_Polje

You are ridiculing yourself by saying that Greeks were slaves. Haven't you ever read a book in your life?

Greeks have not and will never recognise monkey kosovo. And will always use albanos like you to clean their toilets

I understand the jealousy of romanians and albanos, i would also be ashamed if i was albano or romanian

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Read the article, Sputnik is just quoting the personal opinion of Dusan Janjic without any strong arguments, just speculation. Must be a slow news day.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Greeks are finding out that supporting Serbs is bring them nothing good. They saw Erdogan few days ago in Serbia and asking themselves WTH?!

skepticism

pre 6 godina

A ok since sputnik says so then this is probably the truth

Sputnik is a main propaganda tool of Russia. The role os sputnik is to publish lies and whatever stupidity makes uneducated idiots perceive what they read on the internet as "truth"

Since when each piece of junk published on sputnik is "news"?

Check your sources if you still wish to be called NEWS agency

skepticism

pre 6 godina

Dear Adrian in Bucharest

It is ok that you dont like Greeks. May I remind you that you are...Romanian. Which means that you have nothing to be proud of. Quite the opposite

In any case..thank you for your miserable and out of space comment

Mendo

pre 6 godina

@Ari Gold,

You as a Serb should not feel deeply ashemed or sorry just for a name recognition from Serbia. What you should be ashemed and deeply sorry is how your Serbian people killed thousands and thousands innocent people including children, woman and elderly.

I think Serbia did the right thing when they recognid Macedonia the way they did. Next Greece should recognise Kosovo and so we in the Balkans we move one step by step.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

(Nikola Jovanovic, 6 February 2018 12:31)

(Kosovo_Polje1389, 6 February 2018 13:47)

I'll never understand why Albanian trolls seem to often portray themselves as Serbs to give their comments more credibility. The Ustasha on here do this as well. Pose both as Serbs and impartial foreigners. Sad!

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).
(icj1, 6 February 2018 15:30)

LOL ya, so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No. The deep state and Trump are fighting for influence in every sphere of America's operations. Trump cares about America First, the deep state cares about empire first. I and millions of other Americans hope Trumps vision wins out!

MACEDONIA IS GREECE!

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 6 godina

Greece already recognises Kosovo, they recognise their passports and have voted for them when applying for various International organisations.

Greece has always been a slave to external powers. Their first king was a Bavarian, they refused to support Russia during the Crimean War and also, was very close to supporting Germany during WW1.

Greece has always said yes to everything their slave master asks for. What has this brought them you asked: Hal their terrory taken by the Turks, a corrupt and bankfrupt nation, a nation filled with illegal immigrants and poor relations with their neighbours. Thne EU path for Greece is filled with despair and horror, yet they are proud of being "Europeans" Yiasouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To : Adrian_Bucharest

Please look at the map and see how Srbija is positioned, we Serb's in the path of Hell surrounded by hate ! Who has kept for centuries the Roman Catholic Empire including Romania from the invasion of Islam ? Lets trade, all Serb's move to Romania and all Romanian people move to Srbija, think about that ? Regarding Greece people being lazy, well I have lived and worked side by side with Greek people and I can tell you most sincerely that they are very very very hard working honest people ! I can also tell you that I have worked side by side with Romanian people and they also are very very very hard working honest people ! I have worked with Albo's and they are very very very hard working honest people ! So that is why I tell you all with my comments here on B92 we from the Balkans need to stop hating and fighting each other, better we unite all against Satan our real enemy !!!

america is done

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...

Navi

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!
(Azir, 6 February 2018 17:05)

@ azire budalo "danilo" - Still too much stress in your posts! Have you tried masturbating as I suggested? If you have, maybe bump it up to twice a day or so...still way too much stress in your posts!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

They took the Kosovo of Serbia , they not took the Transyvania of Romania

so why is better to be Serbian than Romanian ?

that is someting i don`t understand

+ Serbia stayed 500 years under Ottomans not Romania

Why is bad to be from Romania ? and from Serbia good or from Croatia who killed people as nazi people .

Shiptar EggHead

pre 6 godina

Serbia has problems with Kosovo Albo Egg Heads, Macedonia has problem with Greece AND Albo Egg Heads get the connection? Enough Said!!

mark

pre 6 godina

" He pointed out that "one of Trump's priorities is to strengthen America in the Balkans and push Russia back" - "so it is certain that NATO will go into that role."

HA HA HA. Push Russia back? Trump is Putin's b.tch.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Leonidas
are you felling alone not heard
this article has absolutely nothing to do with Greek-Macedonian relations
(Sam,

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

iron knee

pre 6 godina

@Third time is the charm

counting on what exactly?

#1:July 28, 1914 Serbia attacked by German forces because a bosnian killed an austrian
#2:April 6 1941 Serbia attacked by German forces, as Serbia was last remaining Yugoslav nation to not join the Nazi
#3:March 24 1999 Serbia attacked by western world's fullest might in order to create a mass exeduous from serbia's southern province (yes the under 2 million civilians started leaving after NATO started attacking) to justify a know false-flag incident.

You've certainly lived a charmed life. can't say much for you counting abilities, but charmed, I'm sure.

well, as it stands, your third trick has happened. you got what you wanted, but the white city stands tall. and you're all out of tricks.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!

sj

pre 6 godina

For those that think the US has might and thus NATO is strong. This information is the latest on the US military. Everyone else in NATO hangs off the US.

The current US military force is too small, not ready and equipment too old for any large-scale or prolonged fight. On paper, the US has 50 Army brigades or 10 US divisions, but only 3 brigades (15,000 soldiers) are combat ready, and one is now in the Baltics. The US Navy has 278, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force requires 1,200 fighter aircraft, but has only 923 and most equipment is old and cannibalization of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practice. It's short of 1,000 pilots and 3,000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is said to be at historic lows.

For decades the US has enjoyed "uncontested or dominant superiority in every operating domain", but today air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace are all being contested”.

The US is also losing its technological edge to countries like China and Russia - a key aspect of its military power since the end of the Cold War.
How can this problem be resolved? Defence planning must take a long-term perspective, adopting a three-theatre force construct, increasing military numbers, introducing new weapons urgently and increasing and sustaining defence budgets.

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)

@ mildew aj- so Serbia won’t be allowed to join EU because they find it hard to accept that there is democracy in Albania ?
Are u THAT stupid or did you really mean something else in your post?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)
=========================
How is Serbia not a democracy? They are putting up with haters like Kandic. She is allowed to say whatever she wants against Serbia and she's still in the same position.
Now that's democracy. So what do you see in Serbia to have that opinion? You can't make a statement like that and not back it up with something.
Hit and run statements don't make a point.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

Third time is the charm

pre 6 godina

skepticism, 6 February 2018 14:42)

Third time‘s the charm
#1. April 1941 WWI belgrade bombing
#2. 1999 NATO coalition serbia bombed
#3. It’s the charm belgrad out of the map

icj1

pre 6 godina

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.
(sj, 7 February 2018 09:40)


sj,
Surely you must see the hole in your argument, if not I will have a five year old explain it to you.

icj1

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...
(america is done, 6 February 2018 22:01)

That's a wonderful parallel universe that you've build, dear. As long as you are happy with it, I'm happy that you are happy :)

icj1

pre 6 godina

so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No.
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 17:57)

I'm glad that you finally realised that the answer to that question is "No". Welcome back to reality, dear!

ari

pre 6 godina

One thing must all Ballkan countries understand if they want to prosper they need to get along .No more wars maybe for 100 years that means no more new borders. All countries will be part of EU empire that will last for 1000 years and you will soon see Russia will be in EU also maybe China 200 years for now. To my brother Serbs think how long Putin will live maybe 20 years then Russia will be part of EU. So Greeks understand if they want to improve their economy they have to do bussiness in the region we Ballkan people can't sell our inferior products to western EU or the world the only market for us is Ballkans that is the risons smart Turks are coming back to Ballkans . So Greeks realize that 50 million costumers in Ballkans can only be reached through mutual respekt and recognition. They just made a deal with Albania,Maqedonia,tommorrow Kosova,this about 8 million people. Serbia can do the same with Albanian recognise Kosova make peace and have prosperity 6 million costumers in it doorstep.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Mildred Greens I wouldnt loose my sleep over serbia's democracy as long as they have Kandic Dwight Bob and tons of brave journalists.

Sam

pre 6 godina

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

Offcourse I have
why mention Macedonia in the same post..... I mean do I have to copy and paste it for you?
just saying

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam
I did talk about Fyrom not Macedonia because it is part of Greece.
What you consider “BS” only reveals that you have little insight into historical volatility of the Balkans ,where “BS” issues like usurping a neighbour’s histiric name and cultural symbols and disseminating maps showing Macedonia in reece as part of “greater” FYROM tend to incite bloody conflict.
What is really “BS” is Fyrom’s attempts in the last 20 and so years to claim ethnic connection to people 2500 years ago and naming a country after a name that they have no historical connection,Given the historical fact that their ancestors arrived 1000 years after the demise of Macedonia and not living within the boundaries of what was considered ancient Macedonia.
The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 10:28)

Leonidas,

I have a lot respect for Adrian because of his background. 100 years ago his kin was illiterate slave in Romania, the lowest of the low.

Today he speaks decent English, has decent computers and intent to improve even further.

His views are sometimes naive, but if you pay attention to his postings - most are questions.

There is no stupid question, only stupid answers.

If he sees his personal fortunes improve and take over Serbia or Croatia - very good, I wish all Roms who are hard-working and honest to take over Switzerland, that would be the end of the Rom problem.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Ari,
Serbia and Greece dont have a common border anymore got it
Macedonia is an Sovereign state respect that
Serbia and Macedonia have good relations and Serbs and Macedonians are good to each other
regardless of what some here think

Sam

pre 6 godina

america is done

The Americian Govt is just the other side of the same coin
Russia and China are on the other end and those two Countries you see coming up isnt as attractive as you think it is either

Sam

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

But you did talk about Macedonia and in a rude and abrasive way too
humility or just skip over it I guess you pick the later
Macedonians have been putting up with that BS from Greeks for over a decade

Ataman

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

I think, the bombing was the national shame. If your story is correct - the Albanian Green Party did it right.

I remember the entire bombing. At first even many from the former SU were happy, people expected Milosevic going away within hours. It was very naive.

He just became stronger. And the entire thing turned out to be much different than how it was sold world-wide to the public.

I understand, you probably regard this case as a "win". It is not - it damaged the already difficult Serbian-Albanian relationship for many decades.

In addition to that the "West" behaved pretty much like with Warsaw Pact dissolution: they used all agreements to their advantage.

So they got Putin as the punishment for that. Would be the story with Warsaw Pact and YU handled fair, Putin would be nowhere as he was a nobody, merely an insignificant guy of the Sobchak mafia. The "West" made him the one he is and the U.S. military complex is the single winner.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
Ataman,
I am not convinced and I will give you my reasons The two paragraphs below are from an earlier posting that adrian sent to this site and you can compare their composition and tell me whether they’re written by the same person.

but today we got the info that consumption had grown 7% more than november and 13% more than same month 2016 [link] . Nobody expected this because the gdp was at +8,8% quater 3 vs quater 3 2016 and +6,9% whole year and it was considered by all experts that it will slow down or stagnate’

He say West predictions + news from Romanian media all of them are fake and then come the reality

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Ataman

It's not easy for this site to device and police a registration process which can easily be abused again by creating new IDs.The problem lies with us the participants who join the forum in order to put our views across and learn from each other in the process.Unfortunately ,the current situation is not going to change and the trolls will continue to inhibit any real discussion.Bear in mind that the actual posters behind the trolls are few.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 6 godina

"Athens could recognize Kosovo if Washington asks"

No. They are a country in enormous debt. They are desperate to gain as much as they can from anything possible.

They accepted the offer for Çameria (Epirus+Peloponnese+Western Greece), so they are easy to work with.

As far as Kosovo recognition, Kosovo government is not interested in recognition from Greece. They need to talk to Greece about it and offer something, but they are just too lazy. Serbia is not offering anything to keep Greece from not recognising Kosovo, so anything Kosovo offers I think would work. Example, the new power plant of 1.6 billion Euro should have been given to Greece because they have been running the same type of powerplant and they are EU compliant. They could use excess power for themselves for free because they need more power. Also Greek intellectuals would prevent building a nuclear power plant because they passed a law about nuclear radiation in controlled environments, but they have no emergency infrastructure in case of small crack or other nuclear disasters.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

icj1 aka Reader aka EU Citizen aka Sam

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues you don't understand and I recommended you continue doing your
colouring books.Who's paying you to keep repeating your self?

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Attaman

I've never had a problem with Romanians but Adrian -i doubt if that's his real name- sometimes he makes some sweeping statements on various topics without having either the evidence or background to back it up.
I wish as well to all Romanians a happier future.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Leonidas,

"Rom" - here I mean an ethnic minority within Romania, otherwise called "Gypsy".
Adrian is Rom(a), according him.
That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
The over-all society status of them is still low in Romania. Many - like as I assume Adrian - try to over-compensate. Typically you will not dare to walk in into their kitchen (only bare-feet!) and their cars shine like moon... even if all the others are dirty this time of year.

If nothing else, such efforts have to be appreciated.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

I would beat my chest about savings, not consumption.
On that area Romania is quite bad - with little chance to improve.

As for A. - let's close one eye for now. Compared with the resident Count of Kanada he is still dandy. Of course I could be wrong and he could turn into an other creation of the same person.

One way or an other, B92 needs to set up at least a half-working authentication and registration process otherwise simply the forum-dwellers won't trust even obvious.

For me the deal-breaker is when someone uses names of known fascist or nazi personalities without inhibition.

icj1

pre 6 godina

The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 17:39)

That's exactly why the Greek position is "BS" lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues
(Leonidas, 11 February 2018 20:24)

Which are those "certain issues", dear?!

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

Screw the lazy Greek people

Macedonia have the right to be called as they want to be called

nobody give a shit on what want the Greek people

i never liked the Greeks + they are against Americans they are weird

when Usa visited Greece they attacked Usa officials creating chaos on streets i mean they fought with police and look now what happened to them year by year recension ! 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 with a little good luck 2018 to

skepticism

pre 6 godina

@Kosovo_Polje

You are ridiculing yourself by saying that Greeks were slaves. Haven't you ever read a book in your life?

Greeks have not and will never recognise monkey kosovo. And will always use albanos like you to clean their toilets

I understand the jealousy of romanians and albanos, i would also be ashamed if i was albano or romanian

Mendo

pre 6 godina

@Ari Gold,

You as a Serb should not feel deeply ashemed or sorry just for a name recognition from Serbia. What you should be ashemed and deeply sorry is how your Serbian people killed thousands and thousands innocent people including children, woman and elderly.

I think Serbia did the right thing when they recognid Macedonia the way they did. Next Greece should recognise Kosovo and so we in the Balkans we move one step by step.

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold, 6 February 2018

Don’t just apologize to the Greeks , you should apologize to all your neighbors .
Just take a look at the history every trouble in the Balkans involves serbs .

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 6 godina

Greece already recognises Kosovo, they recognise their passports and have voted for them when applying for various International organisations.

Greece has always been a slave to external powers. Their first king was a Bavarian, they refused to support Russia during the Crimean War and also, was very close to supporting Germany during WW1.

Greece has always said yes to everything their slave master asks for. What has this brought them you asked: Hal their terrory taken by the Turks, a corrupt and bankfrupt nation, a nation filled with illegal immigrants and poor relations with their neighbours. Thne EU path for Greece is filled with despair and horror, yet they are proud of being "Europeans" Yiasouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Shiptar EggHead

pre 6 godina

Serbia has problems with Kosovo Albo Egg Heads, Macedonia has problem with Greece AND Albo Egg Heads get the connection? Enough Said!!

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

This is so hypothetical. First, the basis of this theory is based on a.) Greece is lobbying to recieve economic aid from the U.S. and b.) This assistance would be contigent on recognizing fake state of "Kosovo*".

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question, but that also seems unlikely for the above reasons.

Only thing this, if Greece were to do this, I would not hold it against them. Greece stood with Serbia in the 90s. Its govt broke NATO policy and refused to commit aggression on Serbia, leaked secret NATO military tactics, Greek humanitatian groups would often bring aid to the most heavily bombed areas, hundreds of Greeks fought for the Serb resistance in Bosnia.

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

To the Greeks: I am so deeply sorry. As a Serb, you have no idea how ashamed I feel about the way Belgrade has treated you.

Nikola Jovanovic

pre 6 godina

Serbia repaid Greece by recognizing old Serbia FYROM as "Macedonia". UDBA bandits following their God Tito's wishes (FYROM was his creation).

(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Serbia did the right thing by recognizing FYROM as Republic of Macedonia. My dear never trust Greeks.

Azir

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

(Nikola Jovanovic, 6 February 2018 12:31)

(Kosovo_Polje1389, 6 February 2018 13:47)

I'll never understand why Albanian trolls seem to often portray themselves as Serbs to give their comments more credibility. The Ustasha on here do this as well. Pose both as Serbs and impartial foreigners. Sad!

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).
(icj1, 6 February 2018 15:30)

LOL ya, so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No. The deep state and Trump are fighting for influence in every sphere of America's operations. Trump cares about America First, the deep state cares about empire first. I and millions of other Americans hope Trumps vision wins out!

MACEDONIA IS GREECE!

mark

pre 6 godina

" He pointed out that "one of Trump's priorities is to strengthen America in the Balkans and push Russia back" - "so it is certain that NATO will go into that role."

HA HA HA. Push Russia back? Trump is Putin's b.tch.

america is done

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...

skepticism

pre 6 godina

Dear Adrian in Bucharest

It is ok that you dont like Greeks. May I remind you that you are...Romanian. Which means that you have nothing to be proud of. Quite the opposite

In any case..thank you for your miserable and out of space comment

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.
(Navi,

I don't know how many years you've been visiting this site but if you go back to 2008 and the subsequent years you'll see hundreds of articles appearing on this site making similar claims and we know what happened.Kosovo will never be recognized by Greece no matter what the so-called experts are saying.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Greeks are finding out that supporting Serbs is bring them nothing good. They saw Erdogan few days ago in Serbia and asking themselves WTH?!

Third time is the charm

pre 6 godina

skepticism, 6 February 2018 14:42)

Third time‘s the charm
#1. April 1941 WWI belgrade bombing
#2. 1999 NATO coalition serbia bombed
#3. It’s the charm belgrad out of the map

icj1

pre 6 godina

Also, with the Trump admin running a more America First policy, it's hard to imagine they would really stand behind this. Whether the American deep state would try something like this is another question
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 11:29)

Actually it's exactly the same question since, in case you are not aware, Trump won the election and runs the state (whether deep or shallow).

iron knee

pre 6 godina

@Third time is the charm

counting on what exactly?

#1:July 28, 1914 Serbia attacked by German forces because a bosnian killed an austrian
#2:April 6 1941 Serbia attacked by German forces, as Serbia was last remaining Yugoslav nation to not join the Nazi
#3:March 24 1999 Serbia attacked by western world's fullest might in order to create a mass exeduous from serbia's southern province (yes the under 2 million civilians started leaving after NATO started attacking) to justify a know false-flag incident.

You've certainly lived a charmed life. can't say much for you counting abilities, but charmed, I'm sure.

well, as it stands, your third trick has happened. you got what you wanted, but the white city stands tall. and you're all out of tricks.

adrian_bucharest

pre 6 godina

They took the Kosovo of Serbia , they not took the Transyvania of Romania

so why is better to be Serbian than Romanian ?

that is someting i don`t understand

+ Serbia stayed 500 years under Ottomans not Romania

Why is bad to be from Romania ? and from Serbia good or from Croatia who killed people as nazi people .

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Ari Gold thank you for your confession.

Greek War Criminality has yet to be brought to face justice at The Hague.

Greece 🇬🇷 is finally coming to their senses.

Recognize Kosova and unite with our 40% to change this ridiculous name “Macedonia”!

Albanians don’t want Macedonian name either.

Greece 🇬🇷 includes Cyprus .

Trump must demand recognition now.

Serbia needs to apologize for Greater Serbia Campaign of Terror!
(Azir, 6 February 2018 17:05)

@ azire budalo "danilo" - Still too much stress in your posts! Have you tried masturbating as I suggested? If you have, maybe bump it up to twice a day or so...still way too much stress in your posts!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To : Adrian_Bucharest

Please look at the map and see how Srbija is positioned, we Serb's in the path of Hell surrounded by hate ! Who has kept for centuries the Roman Catholic Empire including Romania from the invasion of Islam ? Lets trade, all Serb's move to Romania and all Romanian people move to Srbija, think about that ? Regarding Greece people being lazy, well I have lived and worked side by side with Greek people and I can tell you most sincerely that they are very very very hard working honest people ! I can also tell you that I have worked side by side with Romanian people and they also are very very very hard working honest people ! I have worked with Albo's and they are very very very hard working honest people ! So that is why I tell you all with my comments here on B92 we from the Balkans need to stop hating and fighting each other, better we unite all against Satan our real enemy !!!

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Read the article, Sputnik is just quoting the personal opinion of Dusan Janjic without any strong arguments, just speculation. Must be a slow news day.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Reading the posts of the smug little 5th formers like Adrian from Bucharest , who are commenting on here , presumably one of Romania’s greatest brains, one can see that Romania is producing slogan-chanting children or fantasists who have not got a clue of what is happening in the real world.This why he claims that Fyrom has the right to choose any name they want. Since you claim that is the case what about if I propose that Fyrom is renamed either to Republic of California or the Republic of Bavaria.Do you think that Fyrom would’ve been allowed to choose either name?
As to Greeks being lazy this is what the German news media mandra throws down the throats of the brainwashed EU citizens.All recent EU studies have shown that Greeks actually work the longest hours in EU.As a Romanian Adrian you should be grateful to Greek business for creating thousands of jobs in Romania.Bear In mind that Greece is the 3rd largest investor in Romania and also owns 25% of the banking sector.
BTW The article is about recognition of Kosovo

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Mildred Greens I wouldnt loose my sleep over serbia's democracy as long as they have Kandic Dwight Bob and tons of brave journalists.

skepticism

pre 6 godina

A ok since sputnik says so then this is probably the truth

Sputnik is a main propaganda tool of Russia. The role os sputnik is to publish lies and whatever stupidity makes uneducated idiots perceive what they read on the internet as "truth"

Since when each piece of junk published on sputnik is "news"?

Check your sources if you still wish to be called NEWS agency

Navi

pre 6 godina

Just as likely, Russia could invest in Greece, negating the possibility of a Kosovo recognition. Even if that happens, Spain and Cyprus are staunchly No.

Don't know why this is news.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Ari,
Serbia and Greece dont have a common border anymore got it
Macedonia is an Sovereign state respect that
Serbia and Macedonia have good relations and Serbs and Macedonians are good to each other
regardless of what some here think

icj1

pre 6 godina

no they won't america is done ,nobody cares what they say anymore ....it's over russia ,china and others are the world order....america is pathetic....serbs go to facebook ,sputnik news,RT and see what going on....and 1 more thing serbs in serbia and world wide have bigger families..serbia is booming now...
(america is done, 6 February 2018 22:01)

That's a wonderful parallel universe that you've build, dear. As long as you are happy with it, I'm happy that you are happy :)

Mildred Green

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.

ari

pre 6 godina

One thing must all Ballkan countries understand if they want to prosper they need to get along .No more wars maybe for 100 years that means no more new borders. All countries will be part of EU empire that will last for 1000 years and you will soon see Russia will be in EU also maybe China 200 years for now. To my brother Serbs think how long Putin will live maybe 20 years then Russia will be part of EU. So Greeks understand if they want to improve their economy they have to do bussiness in the region we Ballkan people can't sell our inferior products to western EU or the world the only market for us is Ballkans that is the risons smart Turks are coming back to Ballkans . So Greeks realize that 50 million costumers in Ballkans can only be reached through mutual respekt and recognition. They just made a deal with Albania,Maqedonia,tommorrow Kosova,this about 8 million people. Serbia can do the same with Albanian recognise Kosova make peace and have prosperity 6 million costumers in it doorstep.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.
(sj, 7 February 2018 09:40)


sj,
Surely you must see the hole in your argument, if not I will have a five year old explain it to you.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)
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How is Serbia not a democracy? They are putting up with haters like Kandic. She is allowed to say whatever she wants against Serbia and she's still in the same position.
Now that's democracy. So what do you see in Serbia to have that opinion? You can't make a statement like that and not back it up with something.
Hit and run statements don't make a point.

icj1

pre 6 godina

so Trump has been trying to overthrow himself the last year? No.
(Ari Gold, 6 February 2018 17:57)

I'm glad that you finally realised that the answer to that question is "No". Welcome back to reality, dear!

sj

pre 6 godina

For those that think the US has might and thus NATO is strong. This information is the latest on the US military. Everyone else in NATO hangs off the US.

The current US military force is too small, not ready and equipment too old for any large-scale or prolonged fight. On paper, the US has 50 Army brigades or 10 US divisions, but only 3 brigades (15,000 soldiers) are combat ready, and one is now in the Baltics. The US Navy has 278, but it needs 355.

The US Air Force requires 1,200 fighter aircraft, but has only 923 and most equipment is old and cannibalization of aircraft to make others airworthy is a regular practice. It's short of 1,000 pilots and 3,000 maintenance workers. Pilot experience is said to be at historic lows.

For decades the US has enjoyed "uncontested or dominant superiority in every operating domain", but today air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace are all being contested”.

The US is also losing its technological edge to countries like China and Russia - a key aspect of its military power since the end of the Cold War.
How can this problem be resolved? Defence planning must take a long-term perspective, adopting a three-theatre force construct, increasing military numbers, introducing new weapons urgently and increasing and sustaining defence budgets.

Trump's hyperbole about building up the military is just that. He proposes to expend 3.2 per cent of GDP close to what Obama spent, which is far below the 5.5-6 per cent under Reagan.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Leonidas
are you felling alone not heard
this article has absolutely nothing to do with Greek-Macedonian relations
(Sam,

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.

Sam

pre 6 godina

america is done

The Americian Govt is just the other side of the same coin
Russia and China are on the other end and those two Countries you see coming up isnt as attractive as you think it is either

Watcher

pre 6 godina

This proves Albania is a true democracy since the ruling party of Albania did not try to prevent the Green party of Albania from demonstrating against the bombing of Serbia in 1999. It must be difficult for Serbia to accept that Albania is the democracy Serbia is not. Because of this, I don't see how Serbia will ever be able to join the EU.
(Mildred Green, 7 February 2018 07:42)

@ mildew aj- so Serbia won’t be allowed to join EU because they find it hard to accept that there is democracy in Albania ?
Are u THAT stupid or did you really mean something else in your post?

Sam

pre 6 godina

You haven't read my posting,have you? I've indicated in my posting that the article was about the recognition of kosovo.

Offcourse I have
why mention Macedonia in the same post..... I mean do I have to copy and paste it for you?
just saying

Ataman

pre 6 godina

@ Iron Knee We are never out of tricks. Listen to this major trick we played during bombardment of Yugoslavia. The albanian Green Party had the courage to protest in the middle of Tirana against the bombs!! I guess nobody reported this news in belgrade when this national shame happened and who really gives or gave a shit about albanian green parties! But it happened, proof that "nothing is really black or white" theory is like karma, a great whore.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 6 February 2018 17:13)

I think, the bombing was the national shame. If your story is correct - the Albanian Green Party did it right.

I remember the entire bombing. At first even many from the former SU were happy, people expected Milosevic going away within hours. It was very naive.

He just became stronger. And the entire thing turned out to be much different than how it was sold world-wide to the public.

I understand, you probably regard this case as a "win". It is not - it damaged the already difficult Serbian-Albanian relationship for many decades.

In addition to that the "West" behaved pretty much like with Warsaw Pact dissolution: they used all agreements to their advantage.

So they got Putin as the punishment for that. Would be the story with Warsaw Pact and YU handled fair, Putin would be nowhere as he was a nobody, merely an insignificant guy of the Sobchak mafia. The "West" made him the one he is and the U.S. military complex is the single winner.

Sam

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

But you did talk about Macedonia and in a rude and abrasive way too
humility or just skip over it I guess you pick the later
Macedonians have been putting up with that BS from Greeks for over a decade

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam

Stop behaving like an idiot.My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest. Fyrom is the last place in the world that i'd like to talk about.
Have a nice day.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Sam
I did talk about Fyrom not Macedonia because it is part of Greece.
What you consider “BS” only reveals that you have little insight into historical volatility of the Balkans ,where “BS” issues like usurping a neighbour’s histiric name and cultural symbols and disseminating maps showing Macedonia in reece as part of “greater” FYROM tend to incite bloody conflict.
What is really “BS” is Fyrom’s attempts in the last 20 and so years to claim ethnic connection to people 2500 years ago and naming a country after a name that they have no historical connection,Given the historical fact that their ancestors arrived 1000 years after the demise of Macedonia and not living within the boundaries of what was considered ancient Macedonia.
The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.

icj1

pre 6 godina

The Greek position is neither “BS” nor nationalistic. We simply object to usurpation of a historical name by a wannabe country made up by recent invaders.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 17:39)

That's exactly why the Greek position is "BS" lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues
(Leonidas, 11 February 2018 20:24)

Which are those "certain issues", dear?!

Ataman

pre 6 godina

My posting was only a response to the Einstein in Economics from Bucharest.
(Leonidas, 8 February 2018 10:28)

Leonidas,

I have a lot respect for Adrian because of his background. 100 years ago his kin was illiterate slave in Romania, the lowest of the low.

Today he speaks decent English, has decent computers and intent to improve even further.

His views are sometimes naive, but if you pay attention to his postings - most are questions.

There is no stupid question, only stupid answers.

If he sees his personal fortunes improve and take over Serbia or Croatia - very good, I wish all Roms who are hard-working and honest to take over Switzerland, that would be the end of the Rom problem.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Attaman

I've never had a problem with Romanians but Adrian -i doubt if that's his real name- sometimes he makes some sweeping statements on various topics without having either the evidence or background to back it up.
I wish as well to all Romanians a happier future.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Leonidas,

"Rom" - here I mean an ethnic minority within Romania, otherwise called "Gypsy".
Adrian is Rom(a), according him.
That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
The over-all society status of them is still low in Romania. Many - like as I assume Adrian - try to over-compensate. Typically you will not dare to walk in into their kitchen (only bare-feet!) and their cars shine like moon... even if all the others are dirty this time of year.

If nothing else, such efforts have to be appreciated.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

That was the point when I had no doubt about him being real because no troll would confess such thing.
Ataman,
I am not convinced and I will give you my reasons The two paragraphs below are from an earlier posting that adrian sent to this site and you can compare their composition and tell me whether they’re written by the same person.

but today we got the info that consumption had grown 7% more than november and 13% more than same month 2016 [link] . Nobody expected this because the gdp was at +8,8% quater 3 vs quater 3 2016 and +6,9% whole year and it was considered by all experts that it will slow down or stagnate’

He say West predictions + news from Romanian media all of them are fake and then come the reality

Ataman

pre 6 godina

I would beat my chest about savings, not consumption.
On that area Romania is quite bad - with little chance to improve.

As for A. - let's close one eye for now. Compared with the resident Count of Kanada he is still dandy. Of course I could be wrong and he could turn into an other creation of the same person.

One way or an other, B92 needs to set up at least a half-working authentication and registration process otherwise simply the forum-dwellers won't trust even obvious.

For me the deal-breaker is when someone uses names of known fascist or nazi personalities without inhibition.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

Ataman

It's not easy for this site to device and police a registration process which can easily be abused again by creating new IDs.The problem lies with us the participants who join the forum in order to put our views across and learn from each other in the process.Unfortunately ,the current situation is not going to change and the trolls will continue to inhibit any real discussion.Bear in mind that the actual posters behind the trolls are few.

BLACK EAGLE

pre 6 godina

"Athens could recognize Kosovo if Washington asks"

No. They are a country in enormous debt. They are desperate to gain as much as they can from anything possible.

They accepted the offer for Çameria (Epirus+Peloponnese+Western Greece), so they are easy to work with.

As far as Kosovo recognition, Kosovo government is not interested in recognition from Greece. They need to talk to Greece about it and offer something, but they are just too lazy. Serbia is not offering anything to keep Greece from not recognising Kosovo, so anything Kosovo offers I think would work. Example, the new power plant of 1.6 billion Euro should have been given to Greece because they have been running the same type of powerplant and they are EU compliant. They could use excess power for themselves for free because they need more power. Also Greek intellectuals would prevent building a nuclear power plant because they passed a law about nuclear radiation in controlled environments, but they have no emergency infrastructure in case of small crack or other nuclear disasters.

Leonidas

pre 6 godina

icj1 aka Reader aka EU Citizen aka Sam

I've asked you before to stop spamming and being obsessive about certain issues you don't understand and I recommended you continue doing your
colouring books.Who's paying you to keep repeating your self?