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US congressmen nominate Serbian NGO head for Nobel Prize

Two US congressmen have nominated Natasa Kandic and the Humanitarian Law Center NGO for this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)

How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens
(Peggy, 7 February 2018 09:50)

By speaking out against violations of the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens

Peggy

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)
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OK, I'll bite. How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens by always badmouthing them?
Go on, do tell. This should be good.
Where do you pull your comments from? Your butt?

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:59)

For a long time, I thought why hasn’t Serbia and Russia done just that? I now understand why.

Russia has the military might to piss on NATO and the US if it wanted to, but it does not. You see its cheaper to let the US spend its way into oblivion than start a war.
I watched a former head of NSA and CIA interviewed. He said that for the price of an F18 Putin has achieved a tremendous amount while the US has squandered trillions and achieved nothing – his words not mine.

Serbia is only using the same strategy. Why try and use force when this way is much better and far cheaper. Kosovo is dying since there are no jobs, unemployment (officially 45% LOL) at 80% and no prospects. Population is declining fast. Over 500,000 no longer live there and given any opportunity the young leave for other parts of Europe.

No my people never feasted on roadkill or drank toilet water so I guess this is something your relatives did in Kosovo in 1999 LOL. Always hanging on to NATO. You see how your NATO is pissing on Albos. Its forcing this court onto you guys just to suck up to the Serbs.

Kandic’s death would not spark anything mate. Do you recall the two Albo brothers both US citizens killed by the Serbs? To this day your State Department has been asking questions who killed them and response from Belgrade is zero. Serbs are much more civilised than Albos.

Je¿ albañski, wêgierski, dañilski i g³upi

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)

He is laughing at you - because he is not even Albanian.
He makes the entire B92 look silly.

Notice one thing. These "characters" never talk to each other.
Not a single time did Avni approve Count or Lenard publicly.
And of course they never argue with each other.

And of course they bully every single "real" Albanian who would way to soon realize a thing or two.

icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:01)
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They don't have to kill her. They can make the organisation she belongs to illegal.
It's not fear that is holding Serbia back but they happen to be more democratic than "Kosova". How long would she last there if places were reversed?

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive?

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 February 2018 00:21)

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive? she could have been liquidated many times, but she is still alive and lives in Belgrade. What would Haradjin or Thaci do if Albanians had someone like Kandic selling her people out? How long would she be breathing? That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians.

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it. I know her family only too well and many do not even speak to her any more. Her half-brother is the well-known Serbian folk singer Bata Kande.

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people. You’re afraid that the EU will not be able to force Serbs to accept Kosovo’s independence and they never will. Kosovo will be an isolated island that can never join Albania and will slowly die out. Spain will never allow Kosovo to join the EU unless as a Serbian province. There are a few more that feel that way.
The Albanians 5 minutes on the world stage has gone.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

".....there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs. (The Count of Kosova, 03. februar 2018 00:21) ========== Including the resident troll who is not considered normal. He spreads hate while belittling his own and pretends to be Albanian and Croatian. You know him well.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

And something in defense of RT Times, CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN.

They work quite logically. They look at the news, test them briefly, verify that these news are to certain interest of their owner and publish them (hopefully) wording carefully enough but still obviously not very impartial way.


What has RT out of the story with Soros?

- There is Orbán who creates a crusade against Soros.
- Orbán is backed by Rosatom, this was his main conflict with Simicska (his former roommate during the college time).
Simicska is the owner of (now-ex) Orbán media empire. Correct, Orbán's media empire does not belong to Orbán (anymore).

This is because both used to be violently anti-Soviet (and anti-Russian!) - but Orbán admitted to Simicska privately, he is going to make Rosatom to finance his "own" country.

Simicska called Orbán a "traitor" (sure, he is!) and also called him publicly "geci" ("c*m")

The independent media called Simicska "sneci" ( = whitefish ) as he is indeed small… both of them are dwarves for Rosatom.

But "sneci" and "geci" sound quite similar. ;-)

Do we have any benefit out of Rosatom? Of course, not. The relationship is openly good - but under the surface Putin hates Orbán and rarely misses the opportunity to make him look ridiculous. And of course, Orbán hates everything of three (white + red + blue) colors (no matter the order!)

We have absolutely no benefit, no friendly deals benefiting both countries. Only deals benefiting the mutual mafia.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN
>and the rest of the liberal corporate media.


All of them have problems. The best it to read all of them - but trust neither.


> Orban was duly elected

I have to say: he was initially elected because his opponents were very weak. But that still means "duly". The later elections were cleverly manipulated using a complicated election system. OK, he took max. advantage.


> sure his policies are right wing

Not "right wing" but populist. He started his carrier as "liberal", turned 180 degrees later. Would you trust a turncoat?


> but he has a point on the migrant issue and
> "forcing countries" to take in migrants.

He does not care. But he sees that there is a high contrast between the way the population reacted to Donbass / Crimea / Milosevic civil var vs. the "migrants".

In 1990-s villagers would take refugees from YU, sometimes families from opposing sides lived in the same house. Currently HU has one of the highest refugee number from the UA/RU border, probably only RU itself and Poland has higher numbers. No one is complaining... but people are simply scared of Pakistani-Afghan-North African crowd. With a reason! And Orbán uses that to his advantage.


> Of course there is a Soros plan


There is none, seriously. I do not like Soros at all, but there is really no "plan". At least in his writings Soros writes exactly the opposite what Orbán claims.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.
(LOL, 2 February 2018 06:40)


LOL,
Natasha Kandic has been threatened with her life on many occasions, by Serbs close to the Serb gov't. There are no Serb mass graves in Kosova, however the are several Albanian NGOs in Kosova that work in the same capacity as Kandic. Albanians do not hate Serbs, in general, however, people like yourself, and there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.
(Ataman, 1 February 2018 20:42)

I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN and the rest of the liberal corporate media. Orban was duly elected , sure his policies are right wing, but he has a point on the migrant issue and "forcing countries" to take in migrants. Of course there is a Soros plan, he is distributing funds to NGO's linked to opposition parties in order to remove leaders from power. The Opposition parties in Serbia and Ukraine benefited from Soros however Russia did not allow it to happen in Georgia and Crimea.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>>> this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó

"Szargyártó" is the (not-very-polite) nick of the Hungarian FM, Szíjjártó.
But it tells a lot.

At least, Putin or Soros do not have nicks like "Orbángutáng" or "Szargyártó".
At max something like "Vlad" or "Gyuri bá". Neither is offensive.

Please... let's talk about men, not monkeys.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.
(sj, 2 February 2018 13:51)

Not that simple!

Saak is not in prison but under house-arrest. But what is most important: his actions are against Ukrainian mafia. I feel sorry for than man because he was essentially tricked out of his citizenships - and received nothing, but mafiosi treatment in "exchange".

He wasn't our friend when he was responsible for the foreign policy of Georgia.
Not because he wasn't right in the theory but simply because his policy was stupid.

His domestic achievements were remarkable, in particular how he abolished the corruption. He openly became a figure many respected Russian leaders show as a positive example.

As for Ukraine - don't be mistaken, most Russians are supporting Saak against Poroshenko.

sj

pre 6 godina

Natasha Kandic is mad as a hatter. She is the half sister of Bata Kandic - same father different mother. I know all about her.

It no wonder the US wishes to nominate her for the Noble Prize since they only support criminals and nutters. Look at Thaci, he was a criminal until he converted to democracy and freedom then there is Haradjin, then Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.

Free

pre 6 godina

Some Serbs say she`s a traitor and some others say why don`t Albanians have a person like Kandic. lol

Kandic has spoken about atrocities committed against Serbs, Albanians etc. That is called "a traitor" by some people, who thinks a victim of a certain ethnicity is 100 times more important than a victim of other ethnicities. And that is called Fascism.

LOL

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia
(R7TZDVW, 1 February 2018 15:33)
==============================
You are entitled to your opinion of her but to say I am not fit to polish her boots is a bit of a stretch.
She and her kind are not fit to polish my boots. She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia. She should go to Croatia which is so obviously a lot more dear to her.
When has she defended Serbian victims? She's only found reasons to justify their suffering. Imagine if some NGO in Croatia behaved in such a way for as long as she has.
Again, you have the right to your opinion of her but it doesn't make you right.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. [link]
(Jugoslavija, 1 February 2018 17:03)

He does NOT. The link comes from RT - and I would take everything what they tell with a grain of salt. At least I can 100% testify, this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó.

Russian news (RT) can tell me one story or an other - and I even can believe it.

But since I am not only Russian, the moment they tell some bullsh*t about Hungarian domestic politics they discredit them self and I will tell that to everyone.

The entire story about Soros is purely domestic Hungarian crap, invented by Orbán.

In a nutshell, Soros "would have" a "plan" regarding migrants and in that plan he wants to destroy the European culture (because he is a Jew, by the way... it's just not being said openly).

Some of his writings are cited as a proof. These writings are in English - and Orbán's people hope, most people won't understand. I do.

There is nothing there about bringing the migrants to Europe, just the opposite: Soros writes about keeping them at home by providing adequate conditions and initiatives.

Instead, Orbán makes it upside down because he badly needs an "enemy". And Soros is a nice object because he has some serious faults and in addition to that he is a Jew.

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.
(Ari Gold, 1 February 2018 18:04) Little Putin clone whats that just a few dollars when you convert it from the mighty Dinar. Any ways Putin is not Jewish just like you Ari Gold use your Serb name.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

LOL! The Nobel peace prize has become a joke. Obama received it and he was responsible for starting wars while the US was at war every single day of his presidency.

I'd select Chelsea Manning for the Nobel peace prize. While the US was committing war crimes around the world, she exposed them but rather than being recognised for the good to humanity along with Julian Assange, she was put in prison.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

LOL, Natasa Kandic is paid 20x more than an average person in Serbia to sit there all day and justify why Serbs from Knin, Sarajevo & Kosovo-Metohija were ethnically cleansed from their homes. And for this, she deserves a Nobel Prize? If I was in charge, I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Obama was bad enough, responsible for mass Middle east uprisings and bloodshed in Libya. Kandic is a war criminal backed by the other war criminal , Soros. The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. https://www.rt.com/news/375652-soros-undermine-hungary-government/

R7TZDVW

pre 6 godina

(Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia

Peggy

pre 6 godina

They do like to reward their puppets. Obama got one of those and he just got elected.
We all know that this vile woman is a traitor to Serbia and now there's proof.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

They do like to reward their puppets. Obama got one of those and he just got elected.
We all know that this vile woman is a traitor to Serbia and now there's proof.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

LOL, Natasa Kandic is paid 20x more than an average person in Serbia to sit there all day and justify why Serbs from Knin, Sarajevo & Kosovo-Metohija were ethnically cleansed from their homes. And for this, she deserves a Nobel Prize? If I was in charge, I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.

R7TZDVW

pre 6 godina

(Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Obama was bad enough, responsible for mass Middle east uprisings and bloodshed in Libya. Kandic is a war criminal backed by the other war criminal , Soros. The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. https://www.rt.com/news/375652-soros-undermine-hungary-government/

Zoran

pre 6 godina

LOL! The Nobel peace prize has become a joke. Obama received it and he was responsible for starting wars while the US was at war every single day of his presidency.

I'd select Chelsea Manning for the Nobel peace prize. While the US was committing war crimes around the world, she exposed them but rather than being recognised for the good to humanity along with Julian Assange, she was put in prison.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia
(R7TZDVW, 1 February 2018 15:33)
==============================
You are entitled to your opinion of her but to say I am not fit to polish her boots is a bit of a stretch.
She and her kind are not fit to polish my boots. She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia. She should go to Croatia which is so obviously a lot more dear to her.
When has she defended Serbian victims? She's only found reasons to justify their suffering. Imagine if some NGO in Croatia behaved in such a way for as long as she has.
Again, you have the right to your opinion of her but it doesn't make you right.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.
(Ari Gold, 1 February 2018 18:04) Little Putin clone whats that just a few dollars when you convert it from the mighty Dinar. Any ways Putin is not Jewish just like you Ari Gold use your Serb name.

Free

pre 6 godina

Some Serbs say she`s a traitor and some others say why don`t Albanians have a person like Kandic. lol

Kandic has spoken about atrocities committed against Serbs, Albanians etc. That is called "a traitor" by some people, who thinks a victim of a certain ethnicity is 100 times more important than a victim of other ethnicities. And that is called Fascism.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.
(LOL, 2 February 2018 06:40)


LOL,
Natasha Kandic has been threatened with her life on many occasions, by Serbs close to the Serb gov't. There are no Serb mass graves in Kosova, however the are several Albanian NGOs in Kosova that work in the same capacity as Kandic. Albanians do not hate Serbs, in general, however, people like yourself, and there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs.

LOL

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.

sj

pre 6 godina

Natasha Kandic is mad as a hatter. She is the half sister of Bata Kandic - same father different mother. I know all about her.

It no wonder the US wishes to nominate her for the Noble Prize since they only support criminals and nutters. Look at Thaci, he was a criminal until he converted to democracy and freedom then there is Haradjin, then Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.
(Ataman, 1 February 2018 20:42)

I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN and the rest of the liberal corporate media. Orban was duly elected , sure his policies are right wing, but he has a point on the migrant issue and "forcing countries" to take in migrants. Of course there is a Soros plan, he is distributing funds to NGO's linked to opposition parties in order to remove leaders from power. The Opposition parties in Serbia and Ukraine benefited from Soros however Russia did not allow it to happen in Georgia and Crimea.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. [link]
(Jugoslavija, 1 February 2018 17:03)

He does NOT. The link comes from RT - and I would take everything what they tell with a grain of salt. At least I can 100% testify, this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó.

Russian news (RT) can tell me one story or an other - and I even can believe it.

But since I am not only Russian, the moment they tell some bullsh*t about Hungarian domestic politics they discredit them self and I will tell that to everyone.

The entire story about Soros is purely domestic Hungarian crap, invented by Orbán.

In a nutshell, Soros "would have" a "plan" regarding migrants and in that plan he wants to destroy the European culture (because he is a Jew, by the way... it's just not being said openly).

Some of his writings are cited as a proof. These writings are in English - and Orbán's people hope, most people won't understand. I do.

There is nothing there about bringing the migrants to Europe, just the opposite: Soros writes about keeping them at home by providing adequate conditions and initiatives.

Instead, Orbán makes it upside down because he badly needs an "enemy". And Soros is a nice object because he has some serious faults and in addition to that he is a Jew.

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

".....there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs. (The Count of Kosova, 03. februar 2018 00:21) ========== Including the resident troll who is not considered normal. He spreads hate while belittling his own and pretends to be Albanian and Croatian. You know him well.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive?

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

Je¿ albañski, wêgierski, dañilski i g³upi

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)

He is laughing at you - because he is not even Albanian.
He makes the entire B92 look silly.

Notice one thing. These "characters" never talk to each other.
Not a single time did Avni approve Count or Lenard publicly.
And of course they never argue with each other.

And of course they bully every single "real" Albanian who would way to soon realize a thing or two.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>>> this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó

"Szargyártó" is the (not-very-polite) nick of the Hungarian FM, Szíjjártó.
But it tells a lot.

At least, Putin or Soros do not have nicks like "Orbángutáng" or "Szargyártó".
At max something like "Vlad" or "Gyuri bá". Neither is offensive.

Please... let's talk about men, not monkeys.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 February 2018 00:21)

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive? she could have been liquidated many times, but she is still alive and lives in Belgrade. What would Haradjin or Thaci do if Albanians had someone like Kandic selling her people out? How long would she be breathing? That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians.

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it. I know her family only too well and many do not even speak to her any more. Her half-brother is the well-known Serbian folk singer Bata Kande.

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people. You’re afraid that the EU will not be able to force Serbs to accept Kosovo’s independence and they never will. Kosovo will be an isolated island that can never join Albania and will slowly die out. Spain will never allow Kosovo to join the EU unless as a Serbian province. There are a few more that feel that way.
The Albanians 5 minutes on the world stage has gone.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:59)

For a long time, I thought why hasn’t Serbia and Russia done just that? I now understand why.

Russia has the military might to piss on NATO and the US if it wanted to, but it does not. You see its cheaper to let the US spend its way into oblivion than start a war.
I watched a former head of NSA and CIA interviewed. He said that for the price of an F18 Putin has achieved a tremendous amount while the US has squandered trillions and achieved nothing – his words not mine.

Serbia is only using the same strategy. Why try and use force when this way is much better and far cheaper. Kosovo is dying since there are no jobs, unemployment (officially 45% LOL) at 80% and no prospects. Population is declining fast. Over 500,000 no longer live there and given any opportunity the young leave for other parts of Europe.

No my people never feasted on roadkill or drank toilet water so I guess this is something your relatives did in Kosovo in 1999 LOL. Always hanging on to NATO. You see how your NATO is pissing on Albos. Its forcing this court onto you guys just to suck up to the Serbs.

Kandic’s death would not spark anything mate. Do you recall the two Albo brothers both US citizens killed by the Serbs? To this day your State Department has been asking questions who killed them and response from Belgrade is zero. Serbs are much more civilised than Albos.

icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)

How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens
(Peggy, 7 February 2018 09:50)

By speaking out against violations of the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.
(sj, 2 February 2018 13:51)

Not that simple!

Saak is not in prison but under house-arrest. But what is most important: his actions are against Ukrainian mafia. I feel sorry for than man because he was essentially tricked out of his citizenships - and received nothing, but mafiosi treatment in "exchange".

He wasn't our friend when he was responsible for the foreign policy of Georgia.
Not because he wasn't right in the theory but simply because his policy was stupid.

His domestic achievements were remarkable, in particular how he abolished the corruption. He openly became a figure many respected Russian leaders show as a positive example.

As for Ukraine - don't be mistaken, most Russians are supporting Saak against Poroshenko.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:01)
========================
They don't have to kill her. They can make the organisation she belongs to illegal.
It's not fear that is holding Serbia back but they happen to be more democratic than "Kosova". How long would she last there if places were reversed?

icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN
>and the rest of the liberal corporate media.


All of them have problems. The best it to read all of them - but trust neither.


> Orban was duly elected

I have to say: he was initially elected because his opponents were very weak. But that still means "duly". The later elections were cleverly manipulated using a complicated election system. OK, he took max. advantage.


> sure his policies are right wing

Not "right wing" but populist. He started his carrier as "liberal", turned 180 degrees later. Would you trust a turncoat?


> but he has a point on the migrant issue and
> "forcing countries" to take in migrants.

He does not care. But he sees that there is a high contrast between the way the population reacted to Donbass / Crimea / Milosevic civil var vs. the "migrants".

In 1990-s villagers would take refugees from YU, sometimes families from opposing sides lived in the same house. Currently HU has one of the highest refugee number from the UA/RU border, probably only RU itself and Poland has higher numbers. No one is complaining... but people are simply scared of Pakistani-Afghan-North African crowd. With a reason! And Orbán uses that to his advantage.


> Of course there is a Soros plan


There is none, seriously. I do not like Soros at all, but there is really no "plan". At least in his writings Soros writes exactly the opposite what Orbán claims.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

And something in defense of RT Times, CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN.

They work quite logically. They look at the news, test them briefly, verify that these news are to certain interest of their owner and publish them (hopefully) wording carefully enough but still obviously not very impartial way.


What has RT out of the story with Soros?

- There is Orbán who creates a crusade against Soros.
- Orbán is backed by Rosatom, this was his main conflict with Simicska (his former roommate during the college time).
Simicska is the owner of (now-ex) Orbán media empire. Correct, Orbán's media empire does not belong to Orbán (anymore).

This is because both used to be violently anti-Soviet (and anti-Russian!) - but Orbán admitted to Simicska privately, he is going to make Rosatom to finance his "own" country.

Simicska called Orbán a "traitor" (sure, he is!) and also called him publicly "geci" ("c*m")

The independent media called Simicska "sneci" ( = whitefish ) as he is indeed small… both of them are dwarves for Rosatom.

But "sneci" and "geci" sound quite similar. ;-)

Do we have any benefit out of Rosatom? Of course, not. The relationship is openly good - but under the surface Putin hates Orbán and rarely misses the opportunity to make him look ridiculous. And of course, Orbán hates everything of three (white + red + blue) colors (no matter the order!)

We have absolutely no benefit, no friendly deals benefiting both countries. Only deals benefiting the mutual mafia.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)
===================
OK, I'll bite. How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens by always badmouthing them?
Go on, do tell. This should be good.
Where do you pull your comments from? Your butt?

R7TZDVW

pre 6 godina

(Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia

Peggy

pre 6 godina

They do like to reward their puppets. Obama got one of those and he just got elected.
We all know that this vile woman is a traitor to Serbia and now there's proof.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.
(Ari Gold, 1 February 2018 18:04) Little Putin clone whats that just a few dollars when you convert it from the mighty Dinar. Any ways Putin is not Jewish just like you Ari Gold use your Serb name.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Peggy, 1 February 2018 13:36)
When the Serb military were butchering families in Kosovo, she was one of the few that was willing to publically stand against Milosevic at great personal risk.
You are not worthy to polish her boots. Is you and Milosevic who are traitors to Serbia
(R7TZDVW, 1 February 2018 15:33)
==============================
You are entitled to your opinion of her but to say I am not fit to polish her boots is a bit of a stretch.
She and her kind are not fit to polish my boots. She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia. She should go to Croatia which is so obviously a lot more dear to her.
When has she defended Serbian victims? She's only found reasons to justify their suffering. Imagine if some NGO in Croatia behaved in such a way for as long as she has.
Again, you have the right to your opinion of her but it doesn't make you right.

Ari Gold

pre 6 godina

LOL, Natasa Kandic is paid 20x more than an average person in Serbia to sit there all day and justify why Serbs from Knin, Sarajevo & Kosovo-Metohija were ethnically cleansed from their homes. And for this, she deserves a Nobel Prize? If I was in charge, I wouldn't ban these kinds of NGO's, but I would heavily tax them. Kandic receives a 6 figure salary tax-free, when she should be taxed like everyone else and be required to register as a foreign agent.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 3 February 2018 00:21)

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive? she could have been liquidated many times, but she is still alive and lives in Belgrade. What would Haradjin or Thaci do if Albanians had someone like Kandic selling her people out? How long would she be breathing? That is the difference between Serbs and Albanians.

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it. I know her family only too well and many do not even speak to her any more. Her half-brother is the well-known Serbian folk singer Bata Kande.

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people. You’re afraid that the EU will not be able to force Serbs to accept Kosovo’s independence and they never will. Kosovo will be an isolated island that can never join Albania and will slowly die out. Spain will never allow Kosovo to join the EU unless as a Serbian province. There are a few more that feel that way.
The Albanians 5 minutes on the world stage has gone.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Obama was bad enough, responsible for mass Middle east uprisings and bloodshed in Libya. Kandic is a war criminal backed by the other war criminal , Soros. The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. https://www.rt.com/news/375652-soros-undermine-hungary-government/

sj

pre 6 godina

Natasha Kandic is mad as a hatter. She is the half sister of Bata Kandic - same father different mother. I know all about her.

It no wonder the US wishes to nominate her for the Noble Prize since they only support criminals and nutters. Look at Thaci, he was a criminal until he converted to democracy and freedom then there is Haradjin, then Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

The criminal Soros uses NGO's to bring down governments, he is now trying to bring down the legitimate Hungarian government. [link]
(Jugoslavija, 1 February 2018 17:03)

He does NOT. The link comes from RT - and I would take everything what they tell with a grain of salt. At least I can 100% testify, this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó.

Russian news (RT) can tell me one story or an other - and I even can believe it.

But since I am not only Russian, the moment they tell some bullsh*t about Hungarian domestic politics they discredit them self and I will tell that to everyone.

The entire story about Soros is purely domestic Hungarian crap, invented by Orbán.

In a nutshell, Soros "would have" a "plan" regarding migrants and in that plan he wants to destroy the European culture (because he is a Jew, by the way... it's just not being said openly).

Some of his writings are cited as a proof. These writings are in English - and Orbán's people hope, most people won't understand. I do.

There is nothing there about bringing the migrants to Europe, just the opposite: Soros writes about keeping them at home by providing adequate conditions and initiatives.

Instead, Orbán makes it upside down because he badly needs an "enemy". And Soros is a nice object because he has some serious faults and in addition to that he is a Jew.

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.

Free

pre 6 godina

Some Serbs say she`s a traitor and some others say why don`t Albanians have a person like Kandic. lol

Kandic has spoken about atrocities committed against Serbs, Albanians etc. That is called "a traitor" by some people, who thinks a victim of a certain ethnicity is 100 times more important than a victim of other ethnicities. And that is called Fascism.

LOL

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

It makes you wonder where is the Albanian version of Natasa Kandic, and then you realize if such a person ever existed, he/she would have been killed on orders from Thaci, Haradinaj, and Limaj. I don't know what point Albanians here have to make other than show the Serbs they hate so much have people who speak out and are able to live long enough to receive some sort of recognition for their work. They'd call that hypothetical Albanian variant of her's a traitor and a Serbian spy.
(LOL, 2 February 2018 06:40)


LOL,
Natasha Kandic has been threatened with her life on many occasions, by Serbs close to the Serb gov't. There are no Serb mass graves in Kosova, however the are several Albanian NGOs in Kosova that work in the same capacity as Kandic. Albanians do not hate Serbs, in general, however, people like yourself, and there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>>> this is a dirty lie from Mr. Szargyártó

"Szargyártó" is the (not-very-polite) nick of the Hungarian FM, Szíjjártó.
But it tells a lot.

At least, Putin or Soros do not have nicks like "Orbángutáng" or "Szargyártó".
At max something like "Vlad" or "Gyuri bá". Neither is offensive.

Please... let's talk about men, not monkeys.

Jugoslavija

pre 6 godina

Stop that nonsense. There is no "Soros plan". And I am not a fan of him, Orban, Putin.

Orban is probably the worst from all three.
(Ataman, 1 February 2018 20:42)

I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN and the rest of the liberal corporate media. Orban was duly elected , sure his policies are right wing, but he has a point on the migrant issue and "forcing countries" to take in migrants. Of course there is a Soros plan, he is distributing funds to NGO's linked to opposition parties in order to remove leaders from power. The Opposition parties in Serbia and Ukraine benefited from Soros however Russia did not allow it to happen in Georgia and Crimea.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

Zoran

pre 6 godina

LOL! The Nobel peace prize has become a joke. Obama received it and he was responsible for starting wars while the US was at war every single day of his presidency.

I'd select Chelsea Manning for the Nobel peace prize. While the US was committing war crimes around the world, she exposed them but rather than being recognised for the good to humanity along with Julian Assange, she was put in prison.

Ataman

pre 6 godina

And something in defense of RT Times, CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN.

They work quite logically. They look at the news, test them briefly, verify that these news are to certain interest of their owner and publish them (hopefully) wording carefully enough but still obviously not very impartial way.


What has RT out of the story with Soros?

- There is Orbán who creates a crusade against Soros.
- Orbán is backed by Rosatom, this was his main conflict with Simicska (his former roommate during the college time).
Simicska is the owner of (now-ex) Orbán media empire. Correct, Orbán's media empire does not belong to Orbán (anymore).

This is because both used to be violently anti-Soviet (and anti-Russian!) - but Orbán admitted to Simicska privately, he is going to make Rosatom to finance his "own" country.

Simicska called Orbán a "traitor" (sure, he is!) and also called him publicly "geci" ("c*m")

The independent media called Simicska "sneci" ( = whitefish ) as he is indeed small… both of them are dwarves for Rosatom.

But "sneci" and "geci" sound quite similar. ;-)

Do we have any benefit out of Rosatom? Of course, not. The relationship is openly good - but under the surface Putin hates Orbán and rarely misses the opportunity to make him look ridiculous. And of course, Orbán hates everything of three (white + red + blue) colors (no matter the order!)

We have absolutely no benefit, no friendly deals benefiting both countries. Only deals benefiting the mutual mafia.

Roger7

pre 6 godina

".....there are many on B92, that spread hate are not considered normal by all decent people the world over, including Albanian and Serbs. (The Count of Kosova, 03. februar 2018 00:21) ========== Including the resident troll who is not considered normal. He spreads hate while belittling his own and pretends to be Albanian and Croatian. You know him well.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


sj,
What you don't get is Serbia let go of Kosova long ago, otherwise Serbia, with Russia, would walk in and retake Kosova. However, I'm sure your relatives in Serbia remember having to feast on Roadkill washed down with water straight from their toilet. What Serbs fear most is being told again by NATO "Bon Appetit, we warned you".

Ataman

pre 6 godina

>I will take the RT Times any day over CBC, NBC, BBC, CNN
>and the rest of the liberal corporate media.


All of them have problems. The best it to read all of them - but trust neither.


> Orban was duly elected

I have to say: he was initially elected because his opponents were very weak. But that still means "duly". The later elections were cleverly manipulated using a complicated election system. OK, he took max. advantage.


> sure his policies are right wing

Not "right wing" but populist. He started his carrier as "liberal", turned 180 degrees later. Would you trust a turncoat?


> but he has a point on the migrant issue and
> "forcing countries" to take in migrants.

He does not care. But he sees that there is a high contrast between the way the population reacted to Donbass / Crimea / Milosevic civil var vs. the "migrants".

In 1990-s villagers would take refugees from YU, sometimes families from opposing sides lived in the same house. Currently HU has one of the highest refugee number from the UA/RU border, probably only RU itself and Poland has higher numbers. No one is complaining... but people are simply scared of Pakistani-Afghan-North African crowd. With a reason! And Orbán uses that to his advantage.


> Of course there is a Soros plan


There is none, seriously. I do not like Soros at all, but there is really no "plan". At least in his writings Soros writes exactly the opposite what Orbán claims.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

If Natasha's life was threatened by people close to the Government why is she alive?

Kandic is a paid employee of the west and we all know it.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)


Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

Precisely because the Serb gov't is deathly afraid of another Nato bombing, especially if she is an employee of the West.
(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:01)
========================
They don't have to kill her. They can make the organisation she belongs to illegal.
It's not fear that is holding Serbia back but they happen to be more democratic than "Kosova". How long would she last there if places were reversed?

Ataman

pre 6 godina

Shalikasvilli who is currently in prison in Ukraine for criminal activities and the list goes on and on.
(sj, 2 February 2018 13:51)

Not that simple!

Saak is not in prison but under house-arrest. But what is most important: his actions are against Ukrainian mafia. I feel sorry for than man because he was essentially tricked out of his citizenships - and received nothing, but mafiosi treatment in "exchange".

He wasn't our friend when he was responsible for the foreign policy of Georgia.
Not because he wasn't right in the theory but simply because his policy was stupid.

His domestic achievements were remarkable, in particular how he abolished the corruption. He openly became a figure many respected Russian leaders show as a positive example.

As for Ukraine - don't be mistaken, most Russians are supporting Saak against Poroshenko.

Je¿ albañski, wêgierski, dañilski i g³upi

pre 6 godina

What you don't get is that Serbs will NEVER let Kosovo go and that is what is spreading fear amongst your people.
(sj, 5 February 2018 09:07)

He is laughing at you - because he is not even Albanian.
He makes the entire B92 look silly.

Notice one thing. These "characters" never talk to each other.
Not a single time did Avni approve Count or Lenard publicly.
And of course they never argue with each other.

And of course they bully every single "real" Albanian who would way to soon realize a thing or two.

sj

pre 6 godina

(The Count of Kosova, 5 February 2018 16:59)

For a long time, I thought why hasn’t Serbia and Russia done just that? I now understand why.

Russia has the military might to piss on NATO and the US if it wanted to, but it does not. You see its cheaper to let the US spend its way into oblivion than start a war.
I watched a former head of NSA and CIA interviewed. He said that for the price of an F18 Putin has achieved a tremendous amount while the US has squandered trillions and achieved nothing – his words not mine.

Serbia is only using the same strategy. Why try and use force when this way is much better and far cheaper. Kosovo is dying since there are no jobs, unemployment (officially 45% LOL) at 80% and no prospects. Population is declining fast. Over 500,000 no longer live there and given any opportunity the young leave for other parts of Europe.

No my people never feasted on roadkill or drank toilet water so I guess this is something your relatives did in Kosovo in 1999 LOL. Always hanging on to NATO. You see how your NATO is pissing on Albos. Its forcing this court onto you guys just to suck up to the Serbs.

Kandic’s death would not spark anything mate. Do you recall the two Albo brothers both US citizens killed by the Serbs? To this day your State Department has been asking questions who killed them and response from Belgrade is zero. Serbs are much more civilised than Albos.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)
===================
OK, I'll bite. How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens by always badmouthing them?
Go on, do tell. This should be good.
Where do you pull your comments from? Your butt?

icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!

icj1

pre 6 godina

She is a traitor to Serbs and should be feathered and tarred before being booted out of Serbia
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:22)

Since when protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens is an act of treason, dear?!
(icj1, 6 February 2018 03:32)

How is she protecting the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens
(Peggy, 7 February 2018 09:50)

By speaking out against violations of the constitutional rights of Serbian citizens